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Today,
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we're talking about something so essential
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to daily living that for this man,
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it's more precious than gold. Gold
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is worth quite a bit. Water
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is worth more than gold if you don't have it. Wayne
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Wade is a retired industrial electrician.
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He's worked in mines, gas plants, and oil
1:15
fields. And after his kids grew up, he
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and his wife settled in La
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Paz County, Western Arizona. They
1:22
fell in love with the desert. We
1:24
have to be here year-round to see
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the seasons. And when the plants
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bloom, it's just something you
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don't get anyplace else. But
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then the water level in their well started
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dropping each year, forcing
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them to go deeper into the earth. It
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was expensive, tens of thousands
1:44
of dollars. At the same time, industrial
1:47
mega farms were moving into their community
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and growing crops to send overseas.
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I was raised on a farm. I'm
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not against farming, but we
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need to take care of it too. You know, it needs
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to be taken care of.
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investigation, that one exposed
4:02
that these foreign mega farms were
4:04
actually using up Arizona water to
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grow crops and ship them overseas.
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People like Wayne Wade were outraged
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and that outrage from the locals has only
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gotten more intense.
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I wanted to know who decided it was okay
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for places like La Paz to lose
4:21
control of their water supply. It
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turns out this scramble for water is
4:26
also about a scramble for profit.
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And because I know you, I know that
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that means you've been following the money.
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Yeah, that's right. And some of this information,
4:35
like the people who are financing some of these deals,
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has been hidden away until now. It's
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a crucial part of the story and we're gonna get
4:43
to it later in the show. But to understand
4:45
what Nate's gonna tell you, we need to rewind
4:48
a little bit.
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We need to go back several years
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to when this investigation started. Here's
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Nate's first journey in the Arizona desert
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where he was joined by Reveal's former producer
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and my friend, Ike Shreesconderaja.
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I see white sands with
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some scrubbing bushes in the desert.
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And I don't know, Ike, what is it? Like 115
5:11
degrees right now? It is sweltering
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hot. And just
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beyond that scrub grass is a
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gigantic hay field.
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And just beyond that are
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rows and rows and rows of processed
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golden stacks of hay.
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Like an entire city of hay.
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How does this make sense?
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We're driving with Charlie Hovranek in his jacked-up
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GMC truck with huge tires. Charlie
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is a real estate agent, farm consultant,
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and the kind of guy you want showing you around the desert.
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Anybody want to... A
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bottle of water, I got cold water in that ice chest
6:02
there. We pull up in front of a farm outside
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Vicksburg, Arizona. And you're looking
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at hundreds of thousands of
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tons of hay waiting
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for export. It looks like the Fort
6:15
Knox of stacked hay. And
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all of that is going to be exported to
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Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia's
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largest dairy company, Al Marai,
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bought 15 square miles of
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land in the Arizona desert and converted
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it
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into hay fields. Let
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that sink in for a minute. A dairy
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based in one desert is growing hay
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halfway around the world in another
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desert. And they're able to do it because
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of groundwater. Lots of it. We
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pull over next to an electric groundwater
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pump. That's the sound of that electric
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motor turning. It runs a turbine
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pump down below that lifts the water up. It
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looks like an oversized fire hydrant
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sitting on top of a 12-inch
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metal pipe that goes straight down
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hundreds of feet to the aquifer below.
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Sixteen to 1700 gallons a minute. The
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pumps, which are scattered across
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the fields, are running night and day. So
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over the course of a year, in an
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area that normally only gets five
7:18
inches of rain, they pump up 10
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feet of water onto the land. We
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are basically mining ancient
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water. This is water that was probably
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part of an ancient sea
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or seepage from rainstorms
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and accumulation of water over the eons
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of time. Very productive ground
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once you've got the water for it. By
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buying the land instead of just purchasing
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the hay, Al Marai can better
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control
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its prices. And this is
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the most productive ground in the country for growing
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hay. Unlike in Iowa
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or Nebraska with their idle winters, in
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the Arizona desert, you can grow hay
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all year long.
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you have the water. Where we're at now
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is outside of any kind of groundwater pumping
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regulations, so they're able to pump as
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much as they can get.
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Abby York is a land
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use expert at Arizona State University.
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She met us at Al Marais.
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I asked Abby if the groundwater here might
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run out one day. There's definitely concern
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that within a 50 years, few decades,
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that water levels will have dropped significantly.
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So if you look at some of the policy reports
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from the state, that's what they're indicating.
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That means within
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a generation or two, this part of Arizona
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could go dry. And the Saudis'
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hay operation just accelerates
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this problem.
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Arizona's groundwater law from 1980
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limits pumping in big cities like
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Phoenix. But in many rural
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areas, like La Paz County, water
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use is not regulated. And
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this is where Al Marais has moved
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in.
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There's no way that we can change
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how they're using this land. If
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there were problems, it would be very difficult to
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stop. Yeah, so the decisions are wherever
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the corporate headquarters are in this case, in
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another country.
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If I'm understanding you correctly,
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the local land use here, the local
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decisions on how much water to use is
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actually being made in Riyadh.
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Yeah, so, right.
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We were really surprised by this, that
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in the middle of a drought, an executive
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halfway around the world is making decisions
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that might deplete the aquifers here.
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We wondered if people were flipping out about
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this. So we went to Kirby's Country
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Market, just a few miles from the Saudi farm,
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and we asked locals if they cared that
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the Saudis were buying land here. No,
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if whoever they could sell it to, I mean, they're
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welcome to sell it to whoever they want. If I knew
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exactly where it's gone, that could make
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a difference to me. Wouldn't make a difference
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if it was going to Saudi Arabia. No,
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wouldn't make any difference to me. If it was going to
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Saudi Arabia, that'd be fine. No,
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no, no, no.
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Don't bother me then. They
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gotta make money. That's how they're
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gonna make money. That's what they're for. Are you at all
10:06
concerned about water? Well, I worry
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about losing water, yeah, because water
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tables go down every year. And
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we're afraid we're gonna run out of water here, one
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of these days.
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Saudi Arabia knows what happens if you
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farm the desert too long. About 30
10:21
years ago, the Saudis began digging deep
10:23
under the sand for something other than oil.
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You'll bring in enough dollars and
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find enough water, and you'll grow
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the desert green until either
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the dollars become scarce or
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the water runs out. That's Elie
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Elhaj. He's a former CEO
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of a major Saudi bank. He also
10:43
wrote a critical report about Saudi
10:45
Arabia's foray into agriculture. He
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called it, Camels don't fly, deserts
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don't bloom. There's no magic
10:52
in turning the desert
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green. With the groundwater, Saudi
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Arabia became an agricultural powerhouse.
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The Saudi desert became the sixth
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largest exporter
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of wheat in the world.
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Elie says exporting crops
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like wheat and hay is the same
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thing as exporting water. Agricultural
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goods are encapsulation of
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water, virtual water.
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So why would a country with so little
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water become the world's sixth biggest
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exporter of wheat? Well,
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frankly, it's crazy. And
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time really proved that it was
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an insane decision.
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Saudi
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Arabia has nearly run out of groundwater,
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and dairy companies like Al Marae have
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been told to begin growing nearly all
11:48
their hay in other places like
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Sudan, Ethiopia, Argentina,
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and Arizona. All
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of it will get shipped back home to feed
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their dairy cows.
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to Al Marais and the Saudi government for comment
12:02
on our story, but they declined. Bottom
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line is that the current generation
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sucked the aquifers dry
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to deny future generations of
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their rightful endowment.
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Saudi Arabia isn't the only one running low
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on water. Other countries, like China
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and India, are discovering they don't have enough
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farm water to meet growing demands either. And
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like the Saudis, they're looking overseas,
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putting increased strain on the world's water.
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As Nate and I were driving away from the
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Saudi farm, we noticed another big
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farm along the road, the name of it,
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Al Dara. It appears to be another
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Middle Eastern company has come out here
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and has started up a huge other hay operation.
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We pulled in where we saw a line
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of semis all being filled with hay.
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So we climbed up to a truck driver's window
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to talk. That makes it a lot easier for us. Thank
12:57
you. I never get to see in sundries. This
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18-wheeler was being loaded with 44,000 pounds
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of hay, and he
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told us it was going to a shipping port in California,
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and from there, onto China. We
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went inside the small office and met Nathan
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Melton, the farm's manager. Nathan
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has deep roots here. His family farmed
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in Arizona
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for generations, growing melons,
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cotton, and other crops. You know, I'm
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not in the family business no more. This is all
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corporate farming now. This is different.
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How long ago did the folks start leasing this land? We've
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been here two years now. And
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who do they lease it from? It's
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IFC. It's a big
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corporation out of North Carolina.
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Corporations are tapping into free and
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unregulated water supplies in rural counties
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like La Paz and growing crops
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that are shipped halfway around the
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world. You know, if we were going to say
13:52
we were going to ship hay overseas, back
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then you would have laughed. Now
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it's what we do and makes money. You
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know, a lot's changed over here.
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for the last 10, 15 years.
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That story was from Nate Halverson and Akshri Skandarajah.
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In a moment, Nate follows the money flowing
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into the International Farming Corporation.
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It's a billion dollar investment firm
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with some surprising investors. And
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then you start connecting the dots on some
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of this stuff and you start thinking, oh my God, I
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can't make this up.
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Nate Halverson has been investigating the
15:48
global battle for water. Water
15:50
we drink, water we use to grow crops,
15:53
and water that in many parts of the
15:55
world is disappearing. Like
15:57
in Arizona, where in 2015,
15:58
Nate found corporate
16:01
mega farms were moving into the desert
16:04
and pumping out massive amounts of
16:06
water from the state's endangered aquifers
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to grow hay.
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Nathan Halvorson is the first reporter
16:12
to break this story in the national press. A dairy
16:14
company based in a country known for its huge
16:16
oil supplies is after something even more
16:18
precious in Arizona, water.
16:20
There is no cost for the water being
16:22
pumped from the wells or restrictions
16:25
on how much they use. Media coverage
16:27
at the time was focused on Al Marai. The
16:30
dairy company from Saudi Arabia that
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quickly became one of the biggest water
16:34
users in the state. The people
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of La Paz County where all this was happening,
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they were getting angry.
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I know that there's areas
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that are being farmed now that were not
16:45
farmland two years ago. Large,
16:47
large tracks, miles and miles of
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green that wasn't there two years ago. How
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is that possible?
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This tape is from a meeting in La Paz
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with members from the state's water department. The
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haul was packed and tense with
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armed sheriff's deputies keeping close watch.
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You're saying it's perfectly legal for
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these people to come in here, drain the
17:09
aquifer and the local people
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have to redrill their wells that
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they've lived there for years.
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We got to move on. But yes,
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it is it they're not breaking the law. People
17:20
told the officials more and more wells
17:22
were running dry and they were blaming
17:25
the new mega farms. Holly Irwin,
17:28
a county supervisor tried to empathize
17:30
and respond to what she was hearing.
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I feel your pain. I want
17:34
conservation measures put in place so
17:36
we can all grow as a community.
17:39
Where you guys can stay here and so
17:42
can they. But we need to do something
17:44
and something's got to give.
17:45
This meeting was
17:47
in 2017 and as the reality
17:50
of the situation sank in, it motivated
17:53
Holly, a Republican, to do something
17:55
she'd never done before.
17:56
Take political action on an environmental
17:59
issue. to save the aquifers and
18:01
save the rural way of life here
18:03
in the desert. And in the process,
18:06
she found out what's happening here goes
18:09
way beyond Al Marai.
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This is where Nate picks up the story.
18:14
This spring, I went to visit Holly in
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La Paz County. She came here 29 years
18:19
ago to raise a family. We love the whole
18:22
rural Western atmosphere of Arizona
18:26
and enjoy the river and all
18:28
of the outdoor activities that comes with
18:30
it.
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One of her favorites, off-roading
18:34
with the family on four-wheelers through hundreds
18:37
of miles of rocky trails. She's
18:39
shown me videos.
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You just have open desert or we can
18:43
take trails that'll take us through mountain passes
18:45
and canyons and stuff
18:47
like that. You can just, it's amazing. You can
18:50
just keep going
18:50
for miles. Holly's been
18:52
barreling over hills and through ditches
18:54
since her dad bought her a mini bike at age 10.
18:58
Today, it's just a way to
19:00
let off steam.
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Here mama go. How's my mama?
19:06
It's called decompressing. From
19:10
dealing with all of the stress with the water issues
19:13
that we've had here in La Paz County.
19:16
Holly was elected county supervisor here
19:18
in 2008. But ever since
19:20
that Saudi Hays story came out, the water
19:22
issue has consumed her working life.
19:25
And she wants to take me out into the desert, not
19:27
on her ATV, but in her government
19:29
issued SUV so I can see what's
19:32
been happening since our original story
19:34
several years ago.
19:36
At first, the desert doesn't look much different.
19:38
It's still got its postcard beauty. But
19:41
then abruptly, it all changes.
19:43
The hay, specifically alfalfa
19:46
hay. Now we're back into the alfalfa, as
19:48
you can see.
19:49
This is all alfalfa. It's depressing.
19:52
It really is. This is the Saudi farm. This is the Saudi farm.
19:55
Wanted to take you by here so you can see how
19:57
much it's changed. The
19:59
fields now cover. over far more land
20:01
and there's clusters of giant hay
20:04
barns scattered across miles of land.
20:07
Those didn't exist last time I was here. Holy
20:10
cow, these are hay trucks. And look, they're
20:11
all waiting in line to get in. Those are
20:14
semi trucks that have two trailers behind
20:16
them and there are 30 of them. So that's
20:18
like 60 semi trailers just
20:20
covered in hay.
20:21
I told you, right? Arizona
20:24
is now exporting nearly 100 times
20:26
as much hay compared to a decade ago. Hay
20:29
brings in a lot of money. It's one
20:31
of the most valuable crops in the U.S. Arizona
20:35
doesn't track hay exports or their impact
20:37
on water, but some researchers at the University
20:39
of Arizona did just that. And
20:42
they estimate that in Arizona, the
20:44
water used to grow exported hay
20:46
is now equivalent to the water used
20:48
by roughly a million people in
20:50
Phoenix. As
20:52
we drive on, you can see the impact. There's
20:55
a little church whose well went dry and
20:57
a trailer park also with water problems.
21:01
And then we pull over just next to some desert
21:03
homes just past one of the encroaching
21:06
farm fields.
21:07
So what's happening to people out here is domestic wells,
21:09
these people that have retired out here. Okay, so if you look out
21:11
here, I know this family that live out
21:13
here and they've had to replace their well twice.
21:17
Oh, not just once,
21:17
but twice. How much is that? Anywhere
21:20
from 25 to 35,000. That's
21:22
a lot for retirees. It is. It's
21:24
a lot. Not
21:26
even the government knows how much water
21:28
is left in these aquifers. Holly
21:31
keeps asking the state's water department
21:33
to conduct a hydrologic study, but
21:36
they keep ignoring her. And it's
21:38
an important study because it's the only
21:40
way to know for sure how much water
21:43
is being used, how much is left,
21:45
and how long until it goes kaput.
21:50
La Paz County is not a wealthy
21:52
community. The average individual
21:54
income here is 26,000 a year.
21:57
Many folks are retirees from working
21:59
classes. and lots of residents live
22:02
in mobile homes and trailer parks or out
22:04
on the open desert. Holly
22:07
says it's this lack of wealth that makes
22:09
the community more vulnerable to having its
22:11
groundwater grabbed.
22:13
She wanted to know when all this got
22:15
started and who was behind it.
22:19
So she gets the idea to start digging
22:21
into dusty old county records in search
22:23
of answers, and she
22:26
leads me into her office to show me. Holly, this is so
22:28
many boxes and so many documents. This
22:30
is a gold mine. I
22:34
had to go back to what we call it
22:36
the dungeon, but you know, where we keep historical
22:39
boxes and documents and stuff like that. The
22:41
dungeon. The dungeon
22:43
and pulled boxes, and I went back to
22:45
the creation of our county.
22:46
Wow. When was that? That
22:49
was in 1982, which I fully believe that we were created
22:51
for that sole purpose. What purpose?
22:55
For water. The dungeon
22:57
is a place to mine not gold or oil, but
22:59
water. And in the past, it was the
23:01
big cities coming here for the water. It's
23:04
an old story, going back nearly 40
23:06
years. That's when Phoenix
23:08
comes calling in 1986.
23:11
The city purchased about 20 square miles
23:13
of farmland so that they could have access
23:16
to the water below. Phoenix
23:18
wanted it as a backup water supply
23:20
for the future, and its plan was
23:22
to eventually pump up the water and
23:24
transfer it through a canal to the city.
23:28
You start watching City of Phoenix buy property,
23:30
Scottsdale buy property, and
23:33
you have cities buying property solely
23:35
for the purpose of water.
23:37
These deals were controversial at the
23:39
time because rural communities like
23:41
La Paz felt their water was being grabbed
23:44
by the big cities. But at
23:46
the end of the day, this was water destined
23:48
to stay in the state as a public
23:50
water supply. That changes
23:53
in 2012 when Phoenix does an about
23:55
face and sells its own backup water.
23:58
It says it doesn't need water.
23:59
need the groundwater anymore, and it will be too
24:02
expensive to transport.
24:05
Here's the thing that I find striking. Back
24:08
in the 80s, people recognized literally
24:10
the time right now when they were going to need the water.
24:12
Right. And that was almost 40 years ago. It's
24:15
like they were psychic. But
24:17
somewhere along the way,
24:18
they lost track that
24:21
they wanted this water for the people
24:23
of Arizona and they started selling
24:25
it. Right. This
24:30
is where the International Farming Corporation
24:33
enters the picture. Remember, IFC
24:35
is that multi-billion dollar investment
24:38
company we heard about earlier. IFC
24:41
buys the land from the city of Phoenix. Then
24:43
it gets to work drilling bigger, deeper
24:46
wells to tap into all that precious
24:48
groundwater so it can then lease
24:50
some of the land to the farming
24:52
company, Aldara. Now, stay
24:55
with me here. This isn't the Saudi
24:57
owned farm. This is the other big
25:00
hay producer in La Paz County, Aldara
25:03
from the United Arab Emirates. What
25:05
this all means is that Phoenix's
25:08
once public water supply is
25:10
no longer staying in Arizona. It's
25:12
being shipped overseas in the
25:15
form of hay.
25:19
I want to hear firsthand what this all
25:21
means for the residents living next to the IFC
25:23
farm. So I go visit
25:25
Mary Goodman. Mary moved
25:27
out here about 25 years ago
25:30
after retiring from her nursing job in
25:32
the Los Angeles area.
25:33
This is a triple wide and
25:36
we put it in in 2005, did all the work ourselves. Mary
25:40
and her husband Bill came out to the desert because
25:42
it was beautiful. And because
25:44
like for a lot of people, this is a place where
25:46
you can afford to live on your pensions
25:48
and savings. This mobile home in
25:50
the desert, it was their dream retirement.
25:53
We've put our money,
25:56
our lives, our
25:58
sweat and blood.
25:59
So we've got everything
26:02
the way we want it. He has a nice
26:04
workshop and I've got my plants.
26:07
It's our life. It's their
26:09
life, but the water table is dropping
26:12
every year. Some of their neighbors wells
26:14
have already gone dry. And
26:16
IFC, it just keeps drilling
26:18
deeper. Now it's down to 1,500 feet.
26:21
If you had to drill your well 1,000 or 1,500 feet,
26:25
could you all afford to? No
26:28
way.
26:29
Not at $30 a foot. We
26:31
couldn't afford it. It's a race
26:34
for the water and they can't keep up. Mary
26:36
worries that their well could run out of water before,
26:39
well, before they die. I'm 75 and
26:43
my husband's 12 years older than I am. You
26:45
know, it's like we're getting up towards the end of stuff
26:48
here, folks. I
26:50
just get really nervous. Do we just stay
26:53
here and maybe take comfort and
26:55
we'll be dead before we run out of water?
26:58
Because we can't live here without
27:00
water. Last year, a state
27:03
test near the Goodmans found the water
27:05
was dropping about five feet per
27:07
year. And at that rate, the
27:09
Goodmans might only have another 10 years
27:12
of water in their well. And
27:14
they say nobody from the state is out
27:16
here helping folks as their wells
27:18
go dry. We're kind of like
27:21
the ugly redheaded stepchild
27:23
out here, maybe. Nobody seems
27:25
to care. You feel powerless.
27:27
I mean, you live in a place where they
27:30
can give your water away. Mary's
27:33
hit on an important point. What's
27:36
happening here goes way deeper than
27:38
corporate mega farms. It's about
27:40
the Arizona water policies that
27:42
attracted these companies in the first place.
27:45
So I go to Arizona State University
27:47
to see a lawyer named Sarah Porter. I'm
27:50
Sarah Porter, director of the Kyle
27:52
Center for Water Policy at ASU's
27:54
Morrison Institute for Public Policy.
27:57
Sarah and I talk nitty gritty about
27:59
the Arizona. Groundwater Management Act. It's
28:01
legislation from the 1980s that governs
28:04
much of what happens with Arizona's water today.
28:07
It was a fight to get the law passed. Cities,
28:10
agriculture, and mining companies were all competing
28:12
for what they wanted it to say.
28:15
Ultimately, groundwater ends
28:17
up being regulated in urban areas like
28:19
Phoenix, but not in rural areas
28:21
like La Paz. They essentially
28:23
remain free-for-alls.
28:25
This lack of regulation created
28:27
a business opportunity for farm investors
28:30
to come in from around the world.
28:32
I have a newspaper ad that I clipped
28:35
and it's a color ad and
28:37
it says water problems come
28:39
to Arizona. We have unregulated
28:41
water.
28:41
Yeah, that's, yeah. Sarah
28:43
now sits on Arizona Governor Katie
28:46
Hobbs' Water Policy Council, which
28:48
was created earlier this year to tackle the
28:50
issue of groundwater in rural areas. She
28:53
says if state lawmakers aren't going to rein
28:55
this in, they should at least be upfront
28:57
about what's happening.
28:58
If it's going to be the policy of
29:00
the state to allow landowners
29:03
to mine out all of the
29:05
groundwater in an aquifer, then
29:08
we should also talk about having
29:11
better public consumer
29:13
protections. We need to make sure that people don't
29:16
buy, you know, invest their treasure in
29:19
their own little acreage and then
29:21
discover that
29:22
a giant industrial-scale agricultural
29:25
operation has moved in next door and
29:27
is going to be causing their wells to
29:29
go dry.
29:30
But that's already happening in places like La
29:32
Paz. I also think we have to live
29:34
with the possibility that it
29:37
may be the choice of some rural areas
29:39
to simply manage their groundwater in
29:41
a way that I think we could
29:43
call unsustainable and use
29:46
up all the water in their aquifers. That may be
29:49
the will of some rural areas. But
29:51
I talked to like supervisors in those counties
29:54
like Holly Irwin. Yeah. And she says
29:56
she doesn't have the power to stop
29:58
people from pumping her water.
29:59
She doesn't. And one of the big problems
30:02
is that once the big water user is there,
30:05
it is much, much harder to solve
30:07
the problem.
30:07
So what happens to people in La Paz
30:09
County? The
30:12
reality is that the
30:15
water demand is the water
30:17
demand. So the people's wells
30:19
are going to go dry and that's the future? It could
30:21
be.
30:22
It could be. Yeah, that's the reality.
30:24
We're really talking about an existential
30:26
situation for some of those places.
30:28
Existential, meaning they're
30:30
going to lose their well and they're going to lose their life savings. Yeah,
30:33
no water, no town.
30:39
The people in La Paz, do you
30:41
envision they're going to get compensated when the
30:43
value of their... No, I don't think so. They're
30:46
just going to lose their life savings and that's that?
30:48
Yeah, or whatever they wind
30:51
up doing. Maybe someone will discover
30:53
an ore body where they are, I
30:55
don't know. A groundwater supply
30:58
in an unregulated rural area of
31:00
Arizona is a low value
31:03
water supply. So it's buyer beware.
31:05
It is. That's
31:08
really what we live with. It's buyer beware,
31:11
but let's keep everything in proportion. I
31:13
don't know what the population of La Paz County is off
31:15
the top of my head, but
31:16
you know, it's like 30,000. La
31:20
Paz is less than that, 16,000 people.
31:25
You know, part of public journalism is
31:27
standing up for the folks that don't have the power. Yeah, yeah. And
31:31
I hear what you're saying that is a small percentage of the population. Yeah,
31:33
it doesn't diminish their experience
31:36
that
31:36
there aren't very many of them. They
31:39
never should have relied on that water. It's not their fault
31:42
that they did, but
31:45
they were relying on a water
31:47
supply that they didn't have
31:49
a right to.
31:52
You're going to tell me that they don't have a
31:54
right to have water in their homes. Families
31:57
have invested over generations to
31:59
be.
31:59
here. It makes me angry, extremely
32:03
angry.
32:05
I've come back to meet with Holly at our office
32:07
in La Paz. She's frustrated
32:10
by the idea that this is just the
32:12
way it is. And also by
32:14
the inability of Arizona's lawmakers
32:16
to protect water. What she wants
32:19
is the state to determine how much water is
32:21
left in the aquifers and give
32:23
her some local control to monitor
32:26
and set limits if necessary. She
32:28
thinks this is the only way to slow
32:30
the global scramble for water and
32:33
the profit-driven water market
32:35
it's
32:35
created. You're literally
32:37
fighting money. That's what you're doing. You're fighting
32:40
the rich people. And Holly isn't just
32:42
fighting rich corporations. In
32:44
my reporting, I uncovered something startling.
32:47
The Arizona government itself
32:50
is investing in these mega farms in the western
32:52
United States.
32:53
I found that the Arizona State
32:55
retirement system gave $175 million
32:59
to the International Farming Corporation,
33:01
which then used some of the money for
33:04
the mega farm in La Paz County.
33:08
This raises a key question. How
33:11
much did the state know about
33:13
exactly where its investment money was
33:15
going? I'm wondering if we can go over to the county
33:17
recorder's office because people
33:19
have to file deeds of trust. If
33:22
there's like a mortgage or, you know,
33:25
who gave them the money to buy the land? I mean,
33:27
we can walk over there if you want and see. So
33:29
we head over to the recorder's office where land
33:31
sales and mortgage records are kept. Here
33:34
is our recorder's office. Is
33:38
there a way that we can look
33:40
up an LLC? Yeah. We
33:43
find a computer terminal and start searching.
33:48
At first, it looks like a bust. Yeah,
33:51
Holly, this looks kind of looking like a dead
33:53
end. I can't. There's no, I mean,
33:55
we can see that the year that they bought it, which
33:58
is what we knew.
33:59
and they bought it from the city of Phoenix. And
34:04
there's easements and sort of mechanical
34:07
stuff, but there's nothing in all
34:10
of these records, and there's 56 documents.
34:13
Oh, wow. Yeah. But there's nothing
34:16
that shows... Wait
34:19
a minute. What's
34:22
this? Arizona
34:25
State... Pull that up. That's
34:28
not your pension fund?
34:29
Yes. Holly
34:31
and I are seeing this document for the first
34:33
time.
34:34
It shows that state retirement fund managers
34:37
knew specifically that part of their investment
34:39
in IFC would be used
34:41
for the mega farm here in La Paz, the
34:44
one that's next to the Goodman's home. The
34:46
document even says that if IFC
34:49
were to ever sell its land in La Paz,
34:52
the retirement system wanted the right
34:54
to make the first offer to buy it. And
34:57
it was all about making money. Oh,
34:59
my God. Oh, my God. Wow.
35:02
That's wild. I don't know why
35:05
our state retirement would have any part of
35:07
any land deal. Your pension fund
35:10
is the money behind this massive
35:12
deal that bought the
35:14
Phoenix of Arizona's backup water supply
35:17
and is now shipping it overseas in the form of hay.
35:22
Holly and I leave the recorder's office, and
35:25
I tell her I'm going to Phoenix to see if I can
35:27
get answers from state officials about why
35:29
any of this makes sense. Is there anything
35:32
you really want me to try to dig out? You really want
35:34
to know? I want to know why they're investing
35:36
our pensions, money that
35:38
we've worked hard for, only to
35:40
have
35:41
companies utilize the water and
35:43
shipping it overseas. How does that make you
35:45
feel? It makes me angry. It's unbelievable
35:48
that the state can do that with our retirement
35:50
fund. You know, I've been fighting for years
35:52
to keep the water here, and it's just
35:55
frustrating everywhere you look around. You
35:57
know that this water is being depleted and...
35:59
office being shipped overseas.
36:06
When we come back, Nate digs deeper
36:08
into those pension fund investments and
36:10
finds out they go way beyond Arizona.
36:13
It is bonkers, right?
36:16
If it was a movie, you wouldn't believe
36:18
it. Next on Reveal.
36:33
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36:53
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36:56
I'm Al Ledsen.
36:57
Our reporter, Nate Halverson, is investigating
37:00
an investment firm that's been fueling
37:02
the rise of a corporate mega farm
37:04
in the parched western Arizona desert. The
37:07
International Farming Corporation is one
37:09
of the largest private landowners in
37:11
the rural desert community of La Paz.
37:14
And Nate discovered that one of IFC's
37:16
big investors is the state of Arizona's
37:19
own retirement system. You know,
37:21
school teachers, state workers, city
37:24
and university employees. They're
37:26
all connected to the water
37:27
crisis in La Paz. And
37:29
Nate's come to Phoenix to try and get answers.
37:32
His first stop, the Arizona State Attorney
37:35
General's office.
37:36
Hello. Hi. How are
37:38
you? You must be Nate. Yeah, Chris, thanks for taking
37:41
the time. Nice to meet you. I meet Chris Mays at her office
37:43
in downtown Phoenix. The
37:45
walls are lined with photos and mementos
37:47
from her career as a newspaper reporter
37:49
and attorney. In 2022,
37:52
Mays, a Democrat, narrowly
37:54
won election as the state's top law
37:56
enforcement officer. Her campaign
37:58
was about voting rights.
38:00
public safety, and water.
38:02
If there's one thing Arizona depends
38:05
on, it's water. That's why I
38:07
was outraged when I heard that Arizona
38:09
is giving our water to a Saudi
38:11
Arabian-owned farm to grow
38:13
crops for export back to the Middle
38:16
East. For free.
38:18
Maize tells me she used
38:20
the mega farm owned by the Saudi Arabian
38:22
company in her election campaign to
38:25
highlight the absurdities of state water
38:27
policies. This is a story
38:30
at bottom about
38:33
the neglect and negligence
38:36
of state government over
38:39
a number of years. That's why
38:41
so many Arizonans say,
38:45
are you kidding me? Why
38:47
are we allowing a Saudi-owned corporation
38:50
to stick a straw on the ground and suck
38:53
so much of our water out and send alfalfa
38:55
back to Saudi Arabia and not charge
38:57
them a dime for the water? It
39:00
is bonkers. If
39:02
it was a movie,
39:03
you wouldn't believe it. The
39:05
water crisis and how it's impacting
39:07
rural communities touches Maize at
39:10
a personal level. I grew up
39:12
in western Arizona.
39:13
My family
39:15
and I would often go to
39:17
a place called the Santa Maria River, which
39:20
is barely a river anymore because
39:23
of drought and climate change. But
39:26
I love western Arizona.
39:29
I pull out some of the documents
39:31
I've uncovered about who's funding IFC.
39:33
I don't know what you found, but
39:36
knowing you, you found something.
39:38
If you look here on page 77 of the
39:40
report, I was
39:43
able to definitively show that state
39:45
pension fund money went into
39:47
lands being leased by another Middle Eastern
39:50
company that's shipping, growing the
39:52
alfalfa and shipping it overseas to China,
39:54
the Middle East, anywhere, presumably, that'll pay
39:56
top dollar for it. Is this the Emirati
39:59
farm? Oh my God. And
40:01
so that is... Can I have a pen? May
40:03
squints her eyes and starts taking notes.
40:06
This isn't the Saudi-owned farm that she campaigned
40:09
against. This is the farm
40:11
company from the United Arab Emirates. The
40:13
Emirati farm is actually
40:16
state pension fund money. State pension fund
40:18
money? So all of you are presumably pension
40:20
fund
40:21
money. Correct. We're all in that pension fund,
40:23
yes. I mean, as individuals, every
40:25
state employee is, yeah. So
40:27
the state employee money has gone into
40:30
exporting the state's water.
40:32
I think Arizonans are going to
40:34
be outraged about
40:36
this. It just exacerbates
40:39
an already terrible situation
40:41
and shows, again, the
40:43
abject failure
40:46
of our government to protect our people
40:48
and to protect our future as
40:50
an Arizonan and as the
40:53
attorney general. It was obviously
40:56
really shocking and
41:00
hard to believe, but
41:02
in a way, maybe not, given what's going
41:05
on in the past. I ask
41:07
May's if it's a conflict of interest
41:09
that state employees who are in charge of
41:11
managing the aquifers are also
41:14
financially benefiting from letting IFC
41:17
pump as much water as it wants in La Paz
41:19
County.
41:19
That's a tough one. I think I'll not
41:22
comment on that because then you really need to think it through
41:24
and we really need to get to the bottom of it.
41:26
And obviously your reporting is going to kickstart
41:28
that process. May's tells
41:30
me the state can't keep making
41:33
these mistakes with its water. Water
41:35
in Arizona is life. Our
41:38
very survival as a state
41:40
depends on our doing better
41:43
when it comes to water.
41:45
I share with May's the doomsday scenario
41:47
for La Paz County that I'd heard from
41:50
Sarah Porter of the governor's water council.
41:52
wells
42:00
and their home value because there's no value in their
42:02
home once they lose their wells. And that's
42:04
what it is. I'm sorry. No, that's
42:06
not the case. In many cases,
42:09
these communities well
42:11
predate these farms
42:14
as a state. We have to act with urgency
42:16
because people are actively being harmed.
42:19
There are farmers, small farmers
42:21
and cattle ranchers whose wells have
42:23
gone dry. There's a trailer
42:26
park that apparently has had its
42:28
well go dry and all
42:30
because of the deep water
42:34
farming that's
42:35
going on in this area. And that's
42:37
just not okay. What can you do about it as
42:39
attorney general? Well, I'm attacking it from
42:42
pretty much every angle that I
42:44
can within the boundaries of my authority.
42:47
Mays has tried to stop the Saudi owned farm
42:49
from expanding, but so far
42:52
she's only managed to revoke two well
42:54
permits because of improper paperwork.
42:57
She's also called on the state's water
42:59
agency to fulfill its mandate and
43:01
assess how much water is left in
43:03
rural aquifers. They still haven't
43:06
done it.
43:06
You know Holly or when the county supervisor? Yes, very
43:09
well. Holly has been asking for
43:11
that hydrologic study for eight
43:13
years since the Saudi story came out. Yeah,
43:15
it is outrageous.
43:16
It is begging
43:20
for a hydrological study. I
43:23
mean, this is one of the greatest
43:25
scandals in the history
43:27
of Arizona. Mays says
43:30
lawmakers need to pass legislation
43:32
to reform the state's water laws.
43:35
And if they don't, she's even proposing
43:37
going around them.
43:38
We have an obligation to protect
43:40
all Arizonans, whether
43:42
it's a ballot initiative in the next year
43:44
or two, or it's a lawsuit
43:47
by me, we are going to
43:49
get this done.
43:53
It doesn't matter what you are, you should be able
43:56
to work the issue and
43:58
leave the politics behind. you
44:00
and get to some solutions. Holly
44:03
Irwin, the Republican County Supervisor
44:05
from La Paz, has forged close
44:07
ties with Chris Mays and other powerful Democrats.
44:11
Mays calls her the Aaron Brockovich
44:13
of water in Arizona. That
44:15
growing bipartisanship gives Holly
44:17
some hope that her desert community can
44:20
survive.
44:20
It's an emotional roller coaster. Some days
44:22
you want to give up. Some days I cry,
44:25
you know, and just to turn around
44:27
and to get up and fight another day.
44:31
I hate being told no. I mean, that's
44:33
one of my biggest things is I hate, I hate
44:35
being told there's no solution.
44:37
I
44:39
want to talk to the executives at the International
44:41
Farming Corporation to ask them
44:44
about what's happening in La Paz because
44:46
the company's trademark pledge is to quote,
44:49
leave the land better than we found
44:51
it. And that's not what I'm hearing
44:53
is happening from the Goodmans or from
44:55
Holly or from the Attorney General. So
44:58
I call IFC executives, leave
45:00
the messages and emails.
45:02
Eventually, their PR firm reaches
45:05
out. Yeah, hi Jenna, this is Nate Helverson
45:07
with Reveal. I'm
45:09
out here in Arizona and I'm working on a story.
45:12
We speak for five minutes and she says
45:14
she'll get back to me.
45:16
A few days later, I get the answer. Executives
45:19
won't talk to me. Instead,
45:21
the rep sends me an email saying that IFC
45:24
complies with state water laws, uses
45:27
advanced irrigation systems and
45:29
is committed to the long term success
45:31
of the local agricultural communities.
45:34
And the statement acknowledged a need to balance
45:36
water availability with demand. Next,
45:41
I reach out to the Arizona State retirement
45:43
system. I request an interview
45:46
with executive director Paul Mattson.
45:48
I even go to his offices in Phoenix. Hey,
45:51
good morning. I'm
45:54
a journalist with the Center for Investigative
45:56
Reporting and I've been emailing with... Again,
45:58
no interview.
46:00
One of the things I wanted to ask was
46:03
whether the state retirement system considers
46:05
the impact of their investments
46:07
on rural communities like La Paz.
46:10
A spokesperson did send me an email that
46:12
boils down to this. Arizona's
46:15
retirement system has a mandate
46:17
of quote maximizing returns
46:20
within prudent risk.
46:23
And this particular investment was an
46:25
alternative to the stock market that
46:28
they say would perform well even during
46:30
high inflation.
46:32
The retirement system wouldn't say how much
46:34
it made off the fund due to quote confidentiality
46:37
provisions but it did say IFC
46:39
was cashing out the fund and
46:42
within a year the state's investment would
46:44
be down to zero.
46:48
Even without interviews there
46:50
are other ways to get insights into IFC.
46:54
I get my hands on an IFC
46:56
prospectus, a highly detailed
46:58
document intended for its investors
47:01
and in it IFC spells
47:04
out its vision. Company executives
47:06
see water as essential to
47:08
making money. As water gets
47:10
more scarce in places like Southern California
47:13
and Arizona they say controlling
47:16
those limited supplies will drive
47:18
profits.
47:19
It's almost like the crisis the West is
47:21
going through the heat waves,
47:23
the droughts, the falling
47:26
level of the Colorado River.
47:28
They're almost like selling points
47:30
to investors, opportunities for
47:32
making a profit and
47:34
I don't have to go far to find other places
47:37
where IFC bought up land. This
47:43
past spring I drove west along
47:46
Interstate 10 to where the sparkling
47:48
emerald green Colorado River narrows.
47:51
A bridge takes me across the state line and
47:53
into another desert town Blythe,
47:56
California. 150 years
47:58
ago
47:59
Blythe hit the jackpot when it comes to
48:02
water rights. In 1877, it was the first place
48:04
in the U.S.
48:07
to be granted a legal right to Colorado
48:09
River water. And because of that,
48:11
it's at the front of the line, so that before
48:14
L.A. or Phoenix get their water, Blythe
48:17
takes all it wants. This
48:19
teeny town gets more water than
48:22
the entire state of Nevada.
48:24
And just like in La Paz,
48:26
big farming investors have moved in. About 10
48:30
years ago, IFC came here again,
48:32
backed by the state of Arizona's retirement
48:35
fund. We're pulling
48:37
up and this looks just like Arizona.
48:47
This hay is stacked so tall that if
48:49
they collapse, I would 100% die. The hay
48:52
is probably two stories
48:54
tall. Just
48:57
before I got here, IFC sold this
48:59
land to another investment firm, this
49:02
one from New York. IFC
49:04
is also planning to sell their property in
49:06
La Paz and had it listed for
49:08
three times what they paid for it. This
49:11
is their model for making money. They
49:13
buy the land, rent it to a farming
49:15
company for several years, and then
49:17
sell. If all goes well,
49:20
the retirement fund gets a good payout.
49:22
IFC moves on, the next company
49:25
takes over, and in this case, continues
49:28
to grow hay. Lots of hay, this
49:30
time instead of with groundwater, they're
49:32
growing it with Colorado River water, which
49:35
has wound its way all the way down
49:37
from the Rocky Mountains, through the
49:39
Grand Canyon, through the desert to
49:41
get here. Flocks
49:44
of starlings are roosting on a giant
49:46
tree. The land
49:47
around me is flat, with green
49:49
squares of alfalfa crisscrossed
49:52
by narrow dirt roads. Alfalfa
49:54
is bringing in big bucks, and
49:57
a lot of the hay in this area is for export.
49:59
As I sit
50:02
here and stare at this effectively
50:04
virtual water, I know that someone's going
50:06
to come and start stacking it up onto
50:09
an 18-wheeler. I've seen so many 18-wheelers
50:13
packed with hay, which is then going
50:15
to slowly make its way halfway around
50:17
the world to places where water
50:19
has also become a huge issue. This
50:25
global grab for water, driven by
50:27
countries like Saudi Arabia and the United Arab
50:29
Emirates, is now being funded
50:31
by pension funds across the
50:33
U.S., not just Arizona's. It's
50:36
retirement money for New York City teachers,
50:39
union workers from California and
50:41
Michigan, even Carnegie
50:43
Hall, all invested in land
50:45
deals here in the arid West. It's
50:48
big business, so long as
50:50
there's water.
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That was Reveals Nate Halverson. Our
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new documentary film, The Grab, features
51:04
more of Nate's reporting on the scramble
51:07
for food and water resources, not
51:09
just in Arizona, but around the globe.
51:12
To find out more about the documentary, visit
51:14
thegrabfilm.com.
51:17
Michael Montgomery was the lead producer for this
51:19
week's show. He had help from Ike Shreeves
51:21
Khanderaja. Cynthia Rodriguez was the
51:24
editor. Special thanks to Gabriella Calperthwaite,
51:27
Joe Bill Munoz, Mallory Newman,
51:29
Amanda Pike, David Richer, Emma
51:31
Schwartz, Yin-Wu Shi, Deborah
51:33
Sousa Silva, Jonathan Ingalls,
51:35
Davis Kuhn, and to Impact Partners.
51:38
Nikki Frick is our fact checker. Victoria Baranetsky
51:40
is our general counsel. Our production managers
51:43
are the Wonder Twins, Zulema Cobb
51:45
and Stephen, my brother from another mother Rascone.
51:47
Score and sound design by the dynamic
51:50
duo Jay Breezy, Mr. Jim Briggs, and Fernando,
51:52
my man Yo Arruda. Our post-production
51:55
team this week also includes Claire
51:57
C. Note Mullin. Our CEO is Robert
51:59
Rosenthal. Our COO is Maria
52:01
Feldman. Our interim executive producers
52:03
are Taki Telenides and Brett Meyers. Our
52:06
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52:08
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52:15
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52:20
and the Hellman Foundation. Reveal is
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a co-production of the Center for Investigative Reporting
52:25
and PRX. I'm Al Letzen,
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and remember, there is always more
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the story.
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