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Reveal. I'm Al Ledson. Today,

1:18

we're starting the show by going back

1:21

a few decades to a notorious crime

1:23

that holds lessons for today. Lessons

1:26

about race, class, crime, and

1:28

punishment. It's

1:30

October 23, 1989 in Boston, and

1:34

Charles Stewart makes a 911 call

1:36

from his car phone. Chuck

1:49

and Carol Stewart started the night at

1:51

a birthing class. Carol is

1:53

seven months pregnant. Chuck tells

1:56

the dispatcher there was a man with a

1:58

gun, and he forced him to do it. drive

2:00

to an abandoned area in Mission Hill.

2:03

It's not far from the birthing class,

2:05

but it's across an important dividing

2:07

line between white Boston

2:09

and everyone else. Mission

2:12

Hill is a mixed-race neighborhood that

2:14

people from the suburbs avoid. The

2:23

details are fuzzy. The dispatcher needs to

2:25

know exactly where they are, and he

2:27

tries to keep Chuck talking. Chuck

2:30

says it's too dark, no one's around.

2:32

He insists he can't see anything. Police

2:58

fan out to comb the neighborhood. One

3:00

of the first emergency vehicles to arrive is

3:03

carrying a film crew from an old reality

3:05

show called Rescue 911. A newspaper

3:08

photographer finds the scene too,

3:11

almost immediately. This gruesome footage

3:13

is all over the national

3:15

news. After Chuck's stretcher is

3:17

loaded into the ambulance, a police officer

3:19

leans over and speaks with him. It's

3:21

hard to make out, but the

3:31

officer asks, who did this? Chuck

3:34

says, black man. Chuck,

3:38

who is white, tells the cop the shooter was

3:41

wearing a tracksuit with

3:52

stripes on it. He doesn't offer

3:54

much else, but it's enough to cement the

3:56

image of the main suspect. I

4:00

believe he's in San Alfonso's blackmail.

4:03

30 years of age, black running

4:05

suit with a white stripe. Chuck

4:08

and Carol Stewart are rushed to

4:10

the hospital. And right away, the

4:12

city's mayor is treating the shooting

4:14

like a citywide emergency. I've

4:16

asked the commissioner, just I was talking

4:18

a little while ago, I've asked him

4:20

to put every single available detective in

4:23

the city of Austin on this case

4:25

to find out who the people are,

4:27

the person who was responsible for this,

4:29

probably, senseless tragedy. The

4:35

Stewards are not the only people shot in

4:37

Boston that night. But their story

4:39

is the one that captures the attention of

4:42

the police force and the nation for weeks.

4:45

And the two words from Chuck, black man,

4:47

trigger a police dragnet in a

4:49

case that will alter the image

4:51

of Boston forever. It's

4:55

been more than 30 years since the

4:57

Steward shooting and the narrative Boston told

4:59

itself about this case was largely unchanged.

5:02

That is until the Boston Globe

5:04

began investigating. This week,

5:06

we're partnering with the Murder in Boston

5:09

podcast to bring you a story that

5:11

exposed truths about race and crime that

5:13

few white people in power wanted to

5:16

confront. A note that

5:18

this week's show contains descriptions of

5:20

violence and suicide and may not

5:22

be appropriate for all listeners. Adrian

5:25

Walker, a columnist at the Boston Globe

5:27

and host of the Murder in Boston

5:29

podcast, takes it from here. It

5:33

was the ultimate urban nightmare. An

5:36

innocent white couple with a baby on the

5:38

way, shot in the heart

5:41

of the city. I

5:43

was here when this happened. I saw it on the

5:45

11 o'clock news that night. People were

5:47

talking about race wars, martial law, the

5:49

death penalty, all kinds of crazy stuff.

5:53

They called the shooter an animal. As

5:56

A transplant from Miami, I'd already been told

5:59

that my experience. From Boston would

6:01

be different because I'm black

6:03

back and colleagues warned me

6:05

to be careful going into certain

6:07

neighborhoods like South Boston. I

6:09

covered crime in the city

6:11

already. Buses was. On

6:18

a note of the shooting in late

6:20

October, Nineteen Eighty Nine, Boston was seized

6:22

by Planet and Rates. The

6:25

police presence on the streets,

6:27

iraq sprites and I was

6:29

perhaps unprecedented From awesome sight

6:31

have a nightmare of a

6:33

random crime and while under

6:35

seal american neighbors were they

6:37

lived accountable. For two dogs and

6:40

a baby on the way. Carol Store

6:42

was a lawyer for Publishing Company a

6:44

New and was loved by everyone who

6:47

knew her. The Boston Herald call them

6:49

the Camelot Couple a direct reference to

6:51

Jackie Oh and Jfk arguably Massachusetts most

6:53

beloved duel. Next

6:56

too many of those Kim What Headlines was a

6:58

picture from their wedding day. Is

7:00

a portrait of happiness. Carol who's

7:02

made Me was to Midi is

7:05

all green, blue eye shadow and

7:07

pink lipstick. Her head crowned by

7:09

why feel sorry he's prim and

7:12

proper Black tux, white bow tie

7:14

in piercing blue eyes. The.

7:16

Media ran with this image. And.

7:19

The Chamois couple title to. The

7:22

night of the shooting, doctors worked on Carol

7:24

for hours, but they couldn't save her. She

7:27

died just hours after her baby

7:29

Christopher was delivered by C Section.

7:32

He was immediately put on my support. Charles

7:35

Friend barber Williamson said known her

7:38

for years. I had was is.

7:41

Carol. Sewer. Says

7:44

that. She's

7:46

been shown. And

7:49

I am in to saying that may have

7:51

goose. Bumps on. I

7:54

was stunned. When.

7:58

She was murdered Charles pregnant. became

8:00

part of a headline. But while

8:02

she was alive, it had been intimate and

8:04

beautiful. And the fact that she

8:06

was pregnant made her death that much harder to comprehend.

8:10

I mean having a child is a

8:12

life changing undertaking and

8:14

feeling something growing inside of you, something

8:17

that's part of you but isn't you.

8:20

There's a sacredness about it as

8:22

well. Chuck,

8:25

meanwhile, was lucky to be alive. He

8:28

had a gaping wound in his lower back. The

8:31

bullet had traveled upwards and diagonally

8:33

and torn through his liver and

8:35

intestines. It missed his aorta by a

8:38

fraction of an inch. After six

8:40

hours in surgery, he made it to

8:42

the ICU. In

8:44

the morning, the full horror of the crime was

8:46

on display on the front page of the Boston

8:48

Herald. Chuck and Carol in the

8:50

front car seats, covered in blood. Carol

8:53

in the process of dying. Even

8:56

by tabloid standards, the picture is

8:59

extraordinarily graphic. The

9:01

emotional toll the rash of violence is taking

9:03

on our residents, our communities, and

9:05

on our city. I have a lump

9:08

in my throat and tears, a roll up in my

9:10

eyes. It just really hits

9:12

home something that can happen to

9:14

you anytime and I think it

9:17

causes terror. Soon

9:19

police will knock down doors and

9:22

strip search young men. They'll

9:24

lead a massive manhunt. With

9:27

Chuck's description, virtually every black male

9:29

in Mission Hill is a suspect. I was

9:33

afraid at night, that night, heard a lot

9:35

of sirens, police going on early tonight. On

9:38

the night Chuck and Carol Stewart were shot, Don

9:41

Juan Moses was 11 years old. Just

9:43

a kid in Mission Hill. It was

9:46

one of the white cops running in each building. I'm

9:49

an observant, I'm living outside because I see all the lights

9:51

and everything going crazy. My mom was like, mind your business,

9:53

get away from the window. I got nothing to

9:55

turn to you. Don Juan

9:57

Was at home with his mom, grandma, and older.

10:00

I'm a grown up for playing spades.

10:02

I'm watching a game, learning the game,

10:04

understanding over his shoulder, watching like trying

10:06

to learn the game, and like all

10:08

mans on account the books they had

10:10

no idea about the shooting nearby. But

10:13

then. There was this noise in the

10:15

hallway. His mom said it was

10:17

nothing. She pay no mind to

10:20

entertain to i door at google boom.

10:22

Boom boom boom boom the as Fast

10:24

enough Boom boom boom I would the

10:27

hills That and it was. You can

10:29

even as a look at Peak Oil.

10:31

Front door is the Boston Police and

10:33

they were looking for Don Juans cousin

10:35

a t Russian in like she was

10:37

like a key witness out a key

10:39

person today case. Looking around the

10:41

house every base freaking out yelling like was

10:43

going on and it is. Grandma has an.

10:46

They grabbed him. To. His face to

10:48

the table he struggling like what are you

10:50

doing Done A.as you know, bone take them,

10:53

slam against a sign, a wall, Buses.

10:55

Face up on a wall stats him up.

10:57

He saw my mom call his mom a

11:00

total costs on M A C drag him

11:02

down three flights of stairs, His

11:04

cousin wasn't something. It's quite simply,

11:07

he said the discretion of Chuck

11:09

and Sarah starts. Black

11:11

male. Those two

11:14

simple words described tens of

11:16

thousands of people in this

11:18

and they launched a manhunt

11:20

throughout Black Boston and ensnared

11:22

hundreds including diamonds cause. The

11:26

police didn't charge done once cousin with

11:28

anything. And he was back home the

11:30

next day. Answer assistance

11:32

could seem small in the grand

11:35

scheme of things, but not to.want

11:37

it since his understanding of the

11:39

world. And his place in if. He's

11:42

in his forties now and he still

11:44

doesn't trust the police. I got a

11:46

camera my car oh my when show

11:48

because I'm feared of what can happen

11:50

if anything was of and to me

11:52

I'm good enough for technology where that

11:54

since my my my hard drive. to

11:57

centipede wet the be aware what happened to me

11:59

laugh You know, I can't trust

12:01

their word over mine. Ever.

12:06

The police response in late 1989, which

12:08

shaped the way an entire generation of

12:10

black men would look at law enforcement.

12:13

I feel like when they first heard this case,

12:16

one, two, three, they just knew that you was

12:18

near the projects, you said a black man did

12:20

it. That's all we need to know. Read

12:22

the project, flood the projects. That's all they was

12:24

in mindset for. Let somebody to the case.

12:30

Chuck had described the shooter as a grown man, but

12:33

it seemed like the police had a liberal view of that. I

12:36

was a 13, 14

12:38

year old, skinny, tall,

12:42

goofy kid. The first time Tito

12:44

Jackson was stopped by the cops, he had just

12:46

finished playing a game of basketball. It wasn't a

12:48

large group. It was like, you know, three or

12:50

four of us. And

12:52

we weren't, you know, wild, whatever.

12:56

Today, Tito was a successful entrepreneur

12:58

and local politician. But

13:00

in 1989, he was this gangly

13:03

teenager with a crush on a girl he

13:05

was desperate to impress. She

13:07

was also out on the streets that day. And

13:11

we were approached

13:13

by two officers,

13:16

got out of a squad car and

13:20

told us to face defense,

13:23

put our hands up against the

13:25

fence. So there he

13:27

is in front of this girl. He's

13:29

scared, but he doesn't want to show it. Get

13:32

up against the fence. We're

13:34

facing the fence and

13:36

they patter this down and

13:39

now drop them. And

13:41

we knew what that meant. This

13:44

was a situation where you

13:47

know it's life or death. It

13:49

is very, very apparent that

13:51

if you do the wrong thing,

13:54

there are real consequences. So

13:56

right there in the middle of

13:58

the sidewalk on Tremont Street. Tito

14:00

drops his sweatpants. He

14:03

stood there with his hands on the

14:05

fence and his underwear. And

14:09

at the time, the thing I

14:11

was most worried about was not being dehumanized.

14:13

I was a kid, so I

14:15

was worried that the girl who was

14:18

there that I had a crush on saw

14:20

that I did not put lotion on my kneecaps. And

14:23

so I was, they were making fun

14:25

of me because

14:27

I had to drop my pants and my

14:30

knees had a lot of dry skin. They were

14:33

actually. The burn that I had was

14:35

anger at the police officers, but it was mostly

14:38

because they embarrassed me. He

14:40

can't say how long it lasted.

14:43

Considering that the young lady was laughing at

14:45

me, it felt like an eternity. And

14:48

then, you know, they left. And

14:51

we went on. Tito will

14:53

be stopped four or five more times in the

14:55

weeks that followed. And by the way, we weren't

14:57

special. They were doing this to everybody.

15:03

To this day, the police defend their

15:05

tactics and still deny that the mass

15:07

strip searches ever happened. We

15:09

wanted to get a full picture of exactly what

15:11

the police did in Mission Hill in the days

15:13

and weeks following the Stewart shooting. We

15:16

reached out to almost all of the cops involved

15:18

in the investigation. Most of

15:20

them declined to talk. So that

15:22

leaves us with old police records, TV

15:24

news footage, newspaper clips,

15:27

and the memories of Mission Hill residents. When

15:30

you compare those things with what the police say, they

15:33

don't match up. The

15:37

mistreatment of the black community by

15:39

those in power in Boston started long

15:42

before the investigation into Chuck and Carol's

15:44

shooting. Fifteen

15:46

years earlier, race had ripped the city

15:48

apart. When the buses arrived,

15:50

the black students ran into the school under a hail of verbal

15:52

abuse. The

15:55

violence, of course, came in the afternoon when

15:57

the buses were stoned and black children injured.

16:01

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18:34

Letzen. Years

18:36

before the shooting of Chuck and

18:38

Carol Stewart had exposed the simmering

18:40

racial tensions in Boston, another

18:42

incident made them boil over. Everybody's

18:45

heard of Brown versus Board of Education,

18:48

the 1954 Supreme

18:50

Court decision that deemed

18:52

segregated schools unconstitutional. The

18:55

concept of separate but equal was now

18:57

illegal. But Boston just

19:00

didn't bother to desegregate. In

19:02

1974, when a federal judge

19:05

ordered the city start busing black kids

19:07

to white schools and white kids to

19:09

black schools, white parents

19:11

revolted. This

19:16

was a white protest with white Americans

19:18

clinging to their patriotism. The

19:20

speaker is set up with the judges that has

19:22

sold America down the river. Adrian

19:26

Walker of the Boston Globe brings us

19:28

back to the busing conflict that laid

19:30

the groundwork for the Chuck and Carol

19:32

Stewart case. When

19:35

I came to Boston in the 80s, there were two things

19:37

I knew about the city. Birthplace

19:40

of the American Revolution and

19:42

busing. Why Boston of all

19:44

places? Why did the greatest

19:46

resistance to school busing happen in the city

19:48

that is the epitome of liberty, justice, and

19:51

equality of man? In my Globe

19:53

columns, I've called it Boston Civil War. Screaming

19:55

crowds of white adults with rocks at

19:58

school buses full of black children. There

20:00

were stabbings and shootings and marches on

20:02

City Hall. A lot of

20:05

parents, white and black, stopped sending their

20:07

kids to school altogether. The

20:09

TV footage of the conflict changed how America

20:12

thought about Boston. Nowhere is

20:14

bushing far harder than in the Catholic

20:16

neighborhoods of Boston. When the

20:18

buses arrived, the black students ran into the

20:20

school under a hail of verbal abuse. The

20:23

violence, of course, came in the afternoon

20:25

when the buses were stoned and black

20:27

children injured. They don't act like

20:29

the one done tried to hit people with them. In

20:32

white school there was someone who was laughing

20:34

at black people who little kids. Bussing

20:39

was a slap in the face to every black person. Howard

20:42

Bryant is a journalist and author born

20:44

and raised in Boston. The

20:46

modern history of Boston really begins with

20:49

busing. Those images of

20:52

those white parents, that's

20:55

where it really starts. I mean

20:57

Boston was Boston before that in a lot

20:59

of ways, but my uncles and my

21:01

parents used to say all the time, we never knew how

21:04

much they hated us until then. The

21:07

violence spread through the city and

21:09

this went on for years. The

21:11

scars of busing were barely healing when Mayor

21:14

Ray Flynn was elected in 1983 and he

21:17

promised new days were ahead. Flynn

21:20

had opposed busing just a few years earlier. He

21:23

thought of himself as someone who could bridge the divide.

21:26

Flynn's top deputy, Neil Sullivan, remembers

21:28

the pressure to heal the wounds created

21:31

by busing. I'd seen

21:33

Mayor Flynn in

21:35

his political brilliance move

21:38

quickly to hold people

21:42

across racial lines to

21:45

preempt what

21:48

had begun to feel like the Boston virus

21:50

of racial conflict. Every

21:52

time there was an

21:54

incident of racial violence, the mayor

21:57

and I were both informed. And

22:00

Ray Flynn went to the scene to

22:03

denounce racial violence. He did it over

22:05

and over and over again. And that

22:07

was as much to tell everybody this

22:09

is what we're doing until this settles

22:12

down. Neal says it was

22:14

starting to work. This history was

22:16

going to show Flynn and his team were

22:18

making things better until the

22:20

night Carol Stewart was killed.

22:23

Oh my goodness, this is going to allow our

22:26

political opposition to organize the

22:29

good church-going people

22:31

of Boston's neighborhoods

22:34

along racial lines. Here

22:36

we go again. Immediately,

22:40

Mayor Flynn is taking a different approach.

22:43

He's pressing the police to find the

22:45

shooter fast. People call

22:47

for blood. And inside

22:49

an interrogation room, police

22:51

are pressuring witnesses. Today

22:53

is November 3rd of Friday.

22:58

You're at the homicide unit, which

23:00

is Old District 6 in South

23:02

Boston. That was certain code in

23:05

there. My name is Eric Whitney, W-H-I-G-N-E-Y.

23:10

Detective Peter O'Malley is known as a closer.

23:13

He solves cases. He's

23:15

almost a cliché of an old school detective. White,

23:19

Irish, thick busted accent,

23:21

a bit of a punch. He's

23:23

interviewing Eric Whitney about the day after the murder.

23:26

Eric says a bunch of teenagers get

23:28

together regularly at a house to get

23:30

high, clink, and plain Nintendo. It

23:33

was turned out, it was

23:35

looking bomb, as we

23:37

were saying, Bong, B-O-N-G,

23:40

which is marijuana. Okay. These

23:43

recordings of O'Malley's interviews haven't been

23:45

heard widely before. We helped

23:47

locate them in the basement of a retired judge. Some

23:50

of the tape is hard to hear, and the homicide

23:52

unit was right next to the airport, so you

23:54

can hear the planes flying overhead real

23:57

low. But

24:01

if you listen closely, you can hear the

24:03

story detectives were after. Eric

24:05

wasn't even at the house that day, but

24:07

he's telling police what he says he heard

24:09

from his pal Derek Jackson, who goes by

24:11

D. And Derek had details

24:14

about the shooter, a skinny black man

24:16

in a tracksuit. What did he tell you?

24:18

He told me that he knew

24:21

who the dog was. Police

24:24

have already arrested one guy, a homeless man

24:26

with a drug problem, squatting in an air,

24:28

who happened to have a tracksuit soaking in

24:30

the sink. He spent 10

24:32

days in jail as the prime suspect, and

24:34

then police quietly let him go. Now

24:37

Eric is saying, there's a

24:39

different skinny black man in a tracksuit out

24:41

there, and he's bragging about what he did.

24:44

Derek say that he says,

24:46

he's in the car, he got

24:49

out the car, got into the store, and he's

24:52

caught. So, he's going

24:54

to get money when he was. So he's in

24:56

the washroom. He just got. He got out. He

24:58

saw the dope man reach for

25:01

whatever. He got his

25:03

five-o. Eric

25:06

says Derek told him the suspect got into the

25:08

Stewart's car, robbed him, and then ran

25:10

when he thought Chuck was a police officer. Five-o.

25:14

How does Eric know all this? Well,

25:17

two heads, that's what was Derek. And

25:19

then D. and the attorney told

25:21

me. Right? And the attorney,

25:24

D. and B. I told my mom. D.

25:26

and B. I told my mother. It

25:28

was a game of telephone. But

25:31

what matters to the police is that these

25:33

teenagers are pointing the finger at Willie Bennett,

25:36

a well-known name to just about every cop

25:38

in Boston. He had

25:40

legendary status in the toughest corners of

25:42

Mission Hill. Around

25:44

the time of the Stewart shooting, Willie had recently

25:46

gotten out of prison for a shootout with the

25:48

cops. In fact, Willie's name

25:50

shows up, along with dozens of others,

25:53

on police tip sheets collected from hotline calls

25:55

from the public in the days after the

25:57

killing. We found those tip

25:59

sheets. One red word on

26:01

the street is, then it did it. But

26:04

it's not going to be that clean. Even

26:07

though a lot of people are talking about Willie,

26:10

the best evidence the cops have comes from Eric

26:12

Whitney and his friend Derek, who gave his own

26:14

statement to police that night. But

26:16

a day later, Eric comes back and says the story

26:19

he told about Willie, it wasn't true.

26:22

Here's Eric. My

26:30

booty, it gave me 20 years

26:32

of awful. I slipped out. I

26:35

was scared. I can't say

26:37

anything. So what you're telling me

26:39

now, or that was never sent to you? I was never sent

26:41

to you. But where

26:43

did you get that story? I

26:47

made that story up. Why

26:49

were you lying to me in a murder

26:51

investigation? Tell the machine that? I

26:56

told you that. I was trying

26:58

to get my booty off. No, no,

27:00

no, no, no, no, no. You tell

27:03

the machine very slowly why you lied

27:05

to me. And you know,

27:07

this is a murder investigation of the

27:09

woman that got shot. It was made

27:12

very, very clear to you that

27:15

you tell that machine why

27:18

you lied to me in this homicide

27:20

case. Really

27:23

doing a lot of shit because I

27:27

knew I had them two warrants out. Eric

27:29

knew he had unrelated warrants out for his

27:31

arrest and he wanted to see him

27:33

cooperative. So I started playing by. I

27:37

was asking him questions. I

27:39

was adding them on to try to make it

27:41

look good for me. So

27:43

when they asked him questions, he

27:46

said what he thought they wanted

27:48

to hear. And I could get out this

27:50

building the same day I came in. The

27:52

longer the interrogation goes, the

27:55

more O'Malley presses. That mean

27:57

you're nervous or the answers wasn't? You

28:00

can do the skate. You scared? I

28:02

look like I'm gonna beat you up. No.

28:05

Huh? No. Where you skate at? Wrong

28:08

jail. Derek tried

28:11

to recant the same night as Eric. But

28:13

the cops didn't believe their second version. Good

28:16

evening. I'm Mark Weill, and welcome to this News 7

28:18

Late Update. Topping News 7 tonight, Boston

28:20

police remain tight-blipped about what could be

28:22

a major break in the investigation into

28:25

the shootings of Chuck and Carol Stewart.

28:28

Police make their move on Willie. Search

28:30

warrant in hand. They've raised

28:32

three different homes where he's laid his head. What

28:35

happened here last night, Ms. Smith? What

28:37

happened? They told my house all the time. How

28:40

do you feel when you see that newspaper story

28:42

this morning saying your son is the number one

28:44

suspect in Stewart case? All the white fields. But

28:48

I said I know he didn't do it. Prosecutors

28:50

kept Willie jailed on other unrelated charges

28:52

while they continued to build their murder

28:55

case. But the police are

28:57

confident. They've got those statements from Derek

28:59

and Eric. They've got Willie, a skinny

29:01

black man with a hell of a record,

29:03

in jail. All they need

29:05

is a positive ID. That

29:07

happens about seven weeks later on December 28.

29:12

By now, the Stewart's infant son, Christopher,

29:14

has died. And Chuck Stewart is recovering

29:16

after a six-week hospital stay. Chuck

29:19

walks into a little room in police headquarters

29:21

with a big one-way mirror. My

29:23

leg is shaking. My app was pounding. Although

29:27

it's my attorney, Jack Darlin, I

29:30

think I'll tell him that the individuals that I had

29:32

identified, I was 99% sure. And

29:35

over my words, that was the man. The

29:38

tape's a little tough on the years. But in it,

29:41

Chuck says he's 99% sure that

29:44

person number three in the lineup is the skinny

29:46

black man who was in his car that night,

29:49

the man who murdered his wife and child. Chuck

29:52

points to Willie Bennett. The

29:55

case appears soft. Willie

29:57

Bennett is in jail, and the Boston police

29:59

are. working toward a murder charge. But

30:02

Chuck Stewart's next move is about to upend the case

30:05

and everything the people of Boston had been willing

30:07

to believe. It's

30:10

January 4th, 1990. Chuck

30:13

Stewart stops his car on the lower deck of the

30:15

Tobin Bridge. He leaves a

30:17

handwritten note on the front passenger seat and

30:19

steps out. The engine is

30:22

still running. TV

30:24

reporter Jack Harper was sent to the scene that

30:26

day. I remember it was cold. And

30:29

I was sent down to the dock because

30:32

there was a report of a man who jumped in the

30:35

water. And

30:37

I'll never forget it. It was the

30:39

first assistant district attorney, Leary, was

30:42

there. And I remember

30:44

standing there with him. And I said, oh

30:46

my god, this poor guy, how much worse can it get?

30:49

What a terrible ending. He just couldn't take it

30:52

anymore. I understand. And

30:54

he said, you have no idea. You

30:56

don't know what happened. It's not what

30:58

you think. He killed

31:00

her. He set

31:02

this up. He just committed

31:05

suicide. Everything

31:08

stopped. The

31:11

police theories, the media narratives, the

31:13

citizen outrage, it's all wrong. When

31:19

Chuck Stewart killed himself, the truth came

31:22

out. It was the husband

31:24

all along. I was just

31:26

kicking myself. We all were kicking ourselves.

31:28

How could we not have figured this out? How

31:30

could we not have known? But

31:33

there were people who did know. That's

31:35

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32:36

Al Legend. In

32:39

the fall of 1989, the Boston

32:41

Police Department put every available detective

32:43

on the hunt for the person

32:46

who shot Chuck Stewart and killed

32:48

his pregnant wife, Carol. When

32:50

Chuck picks a black man with a long

32:53

rap sheet out of a lineup, police think

32:55

they've got their shooter. Days

32:57

later, Chuck Stewart dies by suicide

32:59

and the truth comes out. He

33:02

was behind Carol's murder. It

33:05

seems like he duped everyone. But

33:07

the Boston Globe found out there were clues

33:09

all along if anyone had

33:11

been looking for them. Here's

33:14

Adrian Walker. It

33:17

only took two words from Chuck as he lay bleeding

33:20

on a stretcher. Black man.

33:23

And all this machinery, the police,

33:25

the press, the politicians, kicked

33:28

into gear. These institutions did

33:30

what they always did, what

33:32

they always had done. Find

33:34

the black man. Carol's

33:38

friend, Barbara Williamson, remembers riding

33:40

waves of disbelief and guilt.

33:43

I had to rewrite the story in

33:45

my head. I had to recapitulate the

33:48

whole experience through a completely different

33:50

lens. And

33:52

I was just so full of shame for

33:55

what happened to the African American

33:58

people in Boston. feeling

34:00

like I was a part of it. I was

34:02

complicit. No, I

34:05

didn't pull the trigger. No, I didn't point the finger at the

34:07

wrong guy. But I'm white. And

34:10

I'm enmeshed in this.

34:14

Miss. Black

34:18

men in Boston have spent the last two

34:20

and a half months walking around

34:22

with this constant helpless fear of

34:24

being targeted as suspects. And

34:27

now all that pinto anger

34:29

just poured out. The black

34:31

and Hispanic community has once

34:34

again been the

34:36

victim of a Ku

34:38

Klux Klan type of knife-riding and

34:40

a sensational rape of this community

34:43

by public officials and by the

34:45

media in particular. Reverend

34:47

Grayland Ellis Hagler was one of the most

34:50

prominent voices in Boston back then. He

34:53

ran a church in Mission Hill and had

34:55

witnessed firsthand police violating the civil

34:57

rights of young males in the neighborhood. This

35:00

time, however, the knife-riding

35:02

was not the action of

35:04

white-roofed bigots, but instead the

35:06

actions of a man, Mayor

35:09

Raymond Flynn, who so quickly jumped

35:11

to conclusions. Boston's

35:14

black community felt betrayed. I

35:17

have had enough. This community

35:19

has had enough. Except

35:27

when it happens in the black community.

35:32

But the biggest impact was on the

35:34

prime suspect, Willie Bennett, and his

35:36

family. The Bennets had spent

35:38

weeks telling anybody who would listen that Willie

35:40

was innocent, but nobody believed them.

35:43

All the time, my son didn't have nothing to do with

35:45

it. And we were innocent all

35:47

the time. But I know one thing,

35:49

I'm just glad that it was over. My

35:52

brother was the one that did it, and I'm glad they

35:54

found out that he was the one that killed his

35:56

own wife. I

35:58

remember. feeling a

36:00

certain sense of immediate

36:04

relief. That it

36:06

wasn't the black guy after all. And then I remember feeling

36:08

an immediate sense of anger that it was never the black

36:10

guy. Journalist Howard Bryant. I

36:13

don't think Charles Stewart had to consume a whole lot of

36:15

media to believe that it's ingrained. Blame

36:18

the black guy. It's really

36:20

easy because it works. This

36:23

was once again the fear of black people.

36:28

The lack of regard for black people.

36:31

And the lack of regard for Carol

36:33

Stewart. Because getting the black guy was

36:35

more important than getting her killer. Carol

36:40

was a victim of domestic violence. She was murdered

36:42

by her husband. And that

36:46

fact is sometimes obscured or lost in the

36:48

insanity of the story. The

36:52

leading cause of death for pregnant women in America is homicide. That's

36:56

according to a 2022 study by

36:59

Harvard's T.H. Chan School of Public Health.

37:01

Yeah, you heard that

37:03

right. A pregnant woman in this country is more

37:05

likely to be killed by the father of her

37:08

child than she is to

37:10

die from anything related to her pregnancy.

37:13

We asked Carol's family if they wanted to

37:15

speak for this project. They said no. They

37:18

have spent years talking about

37:20

Carol. Participating in documentaries and TV specials.

37:23

And they told us they had nothing

37:26

more to say. But before we go any further,

37:28

I want to play you this tape of Carol's dad

37:30

speaking in 1990 about losing his daughter. Of

37:34

all the many hours of interviews

37:37

we've listened to, this one stands out. Because

37:40

in justo de made his voice,

37:42

all you hear is his love for his daughter.

37:45

Me at words

37:48

cannot express the terrible emptiness we feel

37:50

or how much we miss her now.

37:54

And we'll miss her for the rest of our lives. All

37:58

she ever wanted was to be a child. was to be

38:00

a good daughter, wife, mother,

38:04

and be happy in her life. She

38:08

was not given this opportunity to fulfill

38:10

all those wishes, but as far as

38:12

we are concerned, she exceeded in every

38:15

voice possible as a pure and loving

38:17

human being. We

38:20

pray that God has taken her and

38:22

our beloved grandson, Christopher, into

38:24

his embrace in heaven where

38:26

they will be saved and happy. Until

38:30

the time we will join her. Thank

38:32

you. It's

38:40

been more than 30 years since the Stuart shooting in

38:42

Mission Hill. The gist is

38:44

always this. Chuck was a

38:47

psychopathic manipulator. He planned

38:49

the near perfect crime. He

38:51

fooled everyone, including the police. This

38:54

mythology that everyone was duped has

38:56

been seemingly set in stone. But

38:59

our team of investigative reporters at the Globe, we

39:02

had the sense that there was more to this story. So

39:05

we spent two years digging. We

39:07

learned that plenty of people knew about Chuck's involvement.

39:10

And there were even Boston police detectives who

39:12

had suspicions from the very beginning. My

39:15

name is Robert F. Behrns, the Louis

39:17

T. Lee, RN, Boston Police Detective assigned

39:19

to the homicide unit. Present

39:21

is Robert T. Tinlin, T-I-N-L-I-N.

39:25

He's also a Boston Police Detective assigned to the

39:27

homicide unit. Robert Ahern and

39:30

Robert Tinlin worked hundreds of murder cases

39:32

together. They were detectives to

39:34

the Corps. They even had

39:36

an autographed picture of Colombo, the famous

39:38

TV gumshoe, hanging in their office. Ahern

39:41

and Tinlin were inseparable, Bob

39:44

and Bob. Colleagues called

39:46

them the two Bobbies. My

39:48

father was, he was considered

39:50

by people like to be more on the

39:52

quiet side. And

39:54

Robert Ahern was definitely more the

39:57

outgoing type and kind of

39:59

a hot ticket. That's Matt

40:01

Tinland, Bob Tinland's son. The

40:03

two Bobbies died years ago. Erharn

40:06

and Tinland were working together on the night of the

40:08

shooting. They were next on the

40:10

homicide rotation, meaning that this was

40:12

their call, their case. Almost

40:16

immediately, the two Bobbies had questions for

40:18

Chuck, and when they talked to

40:20

him, they found him too calm. We

40:23

know what the pair were thinking because we

40:25

got our hands on Erharn's grand jury

40:28

testimony. He wasn't acting as a

40:30

person that just got shot and saw his wife

40:32

get shot. The U.S. Attorney's

40:34

Office convened a grand jury to investigate

40:36

Boston police's handling of the case a

40:39

couple years later. You're

40:41

hearing my colleague reading the statements Erharn

40:43

made under Othe. Erharn

40:45

described a Columbo moment they had when

40:48

they left Chuck's room. I

40:50

asked Bob, I said, does he remind

40:52

you of anybody? And Bob says, yeah,

40:54

and we both said at the same

40:56

time, John Jenks. John Jenks

40:58

was a cop who had staged his own shooting in 1983 after

41:00

he robbed and killed a

41:03

man in Boston's red light district. Jenks

41:06

shot himself to cover up the crime, but

41:08

he was caught anyway. Tinland

41:10

talked about it with his son. I

41:13

do remember him saying

41:15

something to the effect like he was fully

41:17

**** talking

41:20

about Stewart. The story did not jive with him

41:22

from the beginning. There

41:26

were other parts of Chuck's story that didn't line up. Just

41:29

as a reminder, Chuck called

41:31

911 at 8 43 p.m. on a

41:33

Monday night in late October. He

41:36

said that he was lost in Mission Hill, that

41:38

it was pitch dark and that there was no

41:40

one around. But Bob

41:42

and Bob wondered, how is Chuck so lost?

41:45

He had just left the hospital and was only

41:47

a couple blocks away. Why didn't

41:50

he just drive back in that direction? And

41:52

how was there no one around to ask for help? On

41:56

three different nights, a heron took his own car

41:58

out to Mission Hill, Drove the city.

42:00

the around and play the nine One One recording

42:02

on his death. He

42:04

found that sucks. Details were asked,

42:06

there were people regularly out on

42:08

the streets of an hour and

42:11

a wasn't as dark outside the

42:13

church and described the story. Didn't

42:15

add up but police brass had

42:17

already witnessed such as a suspect

42:19

say it's settled on the black

42:21

man and a tracksuit. And

42:23

that's when the to Bobby's got big foot

42:26

of and police officials put another detective on

42:28

a kiss. Yeah. Peter

42:30

A Rally or reject the route.

42:32

I gotta remember Detective Peter Malik

42:35

interrogating teenagers Eric and Death. Or

42:38

Malley took over the case from the

42:40

to Bob's He became the lead detective

42:42

and that's when the investigation when in

42:45

a different direction. And. Bobby

42:47

Tim was son says the outcome of haunted

42:49

his father for the rest of his life.

42:51

They will and I'm an image amount of

42:53

stay Allow them to do it. none of

42:55

this would happen. So.

42:58

This all begs the question. What? Would

43:00

have happened if till in in a

43:02

hurry up or soon south as a

43:04

suspect. If they're skepticism for of the

43:06

investigation what would they have found? Well

43:09

plenty. First off they would

43:11

have found that much of such life was

43:13

a facade. The biggest fiction said pretending to

43:15

be and excited dared to be it. Turns

43:18

out he didn't want to be a father and didn't

43:20

want tell the stay home with the baby. Even

43:23

before their first birth in class,

43:25

he was plotting favoured silt. David

43:27

Maclean was one accepts oldest friends.

43:29

About a month and a half

43:31

before Charles murders the to pals

43:33

had a conversation in a restaurant

43:36

parking lot. Is David recounting it

43:38

to police after such suicide? He

43:40

said that he had argued with his

43:42

wife when she first became pregnant for

43:44

a few weeks and at the sauce

43:46

up in a new that he never

43:48

saw before. Was

43:50

an editor where she had the upper hand

43:52

in a relationship. And.

43:57

Says when he told me that he wanted to kill his

43:59

wife. He was hoping that I

44:01

knew somebody or that I

44:03

could help have it arranged. David

44:06

told Chuck he couldn't help him. But

44:08

after Carol's death and long before Chuck's

44:10

suicide, David told his brother, who told

44:12

a friend, who called state trooper

44:15

Dan Grabowski to pass on the tip. Grabowski

44:18

was one of the emergency dispatchers who took

44:20

Chuck's 911 call on the night

44:22

of the shooting. He got his

44:24

tip that Chuck was behind it all. And

44:27

Grabowski appears to have done little to nothing with

44:29

that tip. We wanted to

44:31

ask Grabowski about it, but it became

44:33

pretty clear that he wasn't taking questions. You're

44:36

a disgrace. I'm sorry that I had

44:38

to relay this like a, but it

44:40

just infuriates me because I know where

44:42

you're after. I know what's

44:44

going to happen. You're going to make Willie Bennett

44:47

a hero just like they made George Floyd a

44:49

hero. Grabowski wasn't

44:51

the only one who got this tip. A

44:53

herd got it too after he'd already

44:55

been taken off the case. If

44:58

the police department acted on it, this could have

45:00

changed the whole case. Could

45:02

have changed history. That

45:04

tip came in while officers were ripping through Mission

45:06

Hill, risking scores of black

45:08

and some Latino men. And

45:11

before police zeroed in on Willie Bennett,

45:13

that's the prime suspect. After

45:17

Chuck struck out with his best friend, he

45:19

turned to his little brother, Matthew Stewart. At

45:22

the time of the shooting, Chuck's youngest brother

45:24

was 23, living with his parents,

45:27

juggling small jobs. This

45:30

is the tape of Matthew's actual police

45:32

interrogation, tape that's never been

45:34

released publicly. Do you have a story you'd

45:36

like to tell us, Matt? On the

45:38

night before Chuck's suicide, Matthew told

45:40

the cops Chuck was planning an insurance scam.

45:43

The brothers were going to fake a robbery. He

45:46

wanted to do his thing in town where all I had to

45:48

do was drive up to him and he'd throw me a bag.

45:50

And I'd just drive her up. This

45:53

is how Matthew described it. He'd

45:55

get rid of Carol's jewelry. Chuck

45:57

would file a claim and Matthew could make up to

45:59

10,000 dollars. $1,000 from the payout He

46:02

says Chuck told him exactly where to be He

46:05

borrowed a friend's car and waited until

46:07

he saw the blue cresseta Chuck and Carol's

46:09

car as it came around the corner

46:11

toward him Matthew said he saw something

46:13

in the car a pile of something

46:16

on the seat next to Chuck That's

46:18

how Matthew described his dying sister-in-law

46:23

And pulled up to the car He

46:25

said Matt wait a second and

46:27

I'm in my driver's seat. He's in his

46:29

driver's seat He said wait

46:31

a second and he pulled up He

46:34

goes all right get out of here drive slow

46:36

and he taught he gave a toss with his

46:38

left hand like that We'll be open to the

46:40

open window When he

46:42

got home Matthew told police he

46:44

found Carol's wallet and ID her

46:47

engagement ring a Gucci purse Chuck's

46:49

watch and a gun He

46:52

says he and his childhood friend went down to the river

46:55

and tossed it and They kept

46:57

this secret from police for two and a

46:59

half months But

47:01

it was hardly a secret Matthew

47:03

started telling people the day after the shooting

47:06

and they told other people By

47:08

New Year's Day 1990 word had spread from

47:11

Matthew to some of his siblings about Chuck's

47:13

role in the murder This

47:19

extraordinary moment is captured on tape

47:21

because Chuck's brother Michael a Firefighter

47:24

talked to their sister Shelley from

47:26

the firehouse on a recorded line

47:34

What's gonna happen They Want

47:48

to tell their parents that they know Chuck was

47:50

involved they just don't want to

47:52

say that he killed Carol I'll

48:00

get out of here. All right. I'm

48:02

here once in a little toad. It's a battalion

48:04

of comms. You guys better be here. I don't

48:06

know. All right. Michael, in 10 minutes. All right.

48:08

All right. Bye. Bye. Michael

48:12

heard everything about the shooting from

48:14

Matthew, but it wouldn't have come

48:17

as a surprise because guess this,

48:20

Chuck had asked Michael to help him kill Carol too,

48:23

just a few weeks before she turned up dead.

48:26

And yet Michael said nothing

48:28

to detectives. Michael

48:31

would later claim that he didn't fully

48:33

understand what Chuck was proposing. By

48:37

this point, our reporting shows that at least 33

48:39

people, 33

48:42

knew in some way or another that

48:44

there was no black man and that

48:46

Chuck was responsible for Carol's death. But

48:49

it took Matthew's confession to staging a

48:52

robbery and disposing of what might've

48:54

been the murder weapon for the police to

48:56

focus on Chuck. About

49:00

a week after Chuck's death, the

49:02

store siblings, save from Matthew, held a

49:04

press conference. They sat

49:06

in chairs in a stuffy looking law office lined

49:08

with books. Their lawyer said

49:11

most of the siblings had no clue

49:13

about Chuck's deceit. In

49:15

this family, Rumi wants

49:17

it to be known that

49:20

they had no information as

49:23

to anything that their deceased brother Charles

49:25

may have done. In any

49:27

way, whatsoever,

49:30

the appearance that has evolved

49:32

in my judgment is

49:35

that some type of

49:37

conspiratorial scenario existed by and

49:39

between all these family members

49:42

sitting around talking about

49:44

keeping something hidden. That

49:46

is not true. They

49:49

want you, the world to know. They

49:52

love Carol Domani. They,

49:56

to use their words, In

50:05

1992, Matthew Stewart pleaded guilty to

50:07

insurance fraud and weapons charges and

50:10

served two and a half years in prison. But

50:12

was that the whole story? A

50:15

grand jury spent more than a year considering

50:18

charges against Matthew. He was

50:20

never charged with firing a shot. But

50:23

our team pulled to medical records, police

50:25

forensic reports, FBI lab notes, and

50:27

a whole lot more. Eventually,

50:29

we determined there's strong evidence that

50:32

someone else was there that night

50:34

helping Chuck. And that

50:36

person may have even pulled the trigger. Three

50:39

separate witnesses told police they saw a

50:41

third person in or next to Chuck's

50:43

car. Though it's inconclusive,

50:46

some medical experts don't think Chuck's

50:48

gunshot wound could have been

50:50

self-inflicted. To

50:52

this day, Matthew's former attorney steadfastly denies

50:55

he played any significant role in the

50:57

shooting and says he was duped by

50:59

his older brother. We

51:01

can't talk to Matthew. He struggled

51:03

with drugs following his prison stint, and

51:06

he died in a homeless shelter in But

51:09

we talked to a lot of people who grew up in Mission

51:11

Hill. There is a whole

51:13

generation of black men who were shaped by these

51:16

few weeks in late 1989. Listen

51:19

to their voices. Well,

51:22

after October 23, me and a couple

51:24

of friends was walking down Parker Street.

51:27

A couple of unmarked police cars pulled up

51:29

on us, searched us, then

51:32

pulled me to the side and asked me

51:34

to take down my pants. I felt like

51:36

my heart dropped out of my

51:38

chest. I'm like, what the **** did I do?

51:40

I wasn't doing anything but going to work. I

51:43

lived in Roxbury, and I was walking home. And

51:46

they just rolled up on me and threw me against the

51:48

wall and started searching. I refused to

51:50

take down my pants. They was

51:52

like, well, if you don't want to

51:54

take down your pants here, we'll arrest you. I

51:56

was like, well, pick the handcuffs on me. the

52:00

morning, it's gonna be a fight. Driving

52:03

home one day, I saw a whole bunch of young

52:06

men with their pants and under way down around

52:08

their ankles on

52:10

Dudley Street, hands against the wall.

52:13

The cop got his gun out. And

52:16

they're searching the kids and they're laughing. The cop's

52:18

laughing. Everyone walked

52:20

around in fear. Now,

52:22

how does all of this make you feel?

52:25

Well, it makes me feel

52:28

uncomfortable. What do you mean by uncomfortable?

52:31

Uncomfortable that my rights have been violated, that

52:34

this is a free land to

52:36

walk on. To me, it doesn't

52:38

seem like a free land. Thanks

52:44

to Adrian Walker for bringing us this

52:47

story. To hear more

52:49

of the Boston Globes investigation, listen

52:51

to the 10-part podcast, Murder in

52:53

Boston, the HBO documentary

52:55

series, Murder in Boston, Roots, Rampage,

52:58

and Reckoning is also available to

53:00

stream on Max. This

53:07

story was reported by Evan Allen, Elizabeth

53:10

Ko, Andrew Ryan, and Adrian Walker. The

53:13

project was led by Brendan McCarthy. Kate

53:15

Howard and Kristen Nelson edited the show. Matt

53:17

Mahoney and Nicky Frick were our fact checkers.

53:20

Victoria Baranetsky is our general counsel. Our

53:23

production managers are Stephen Raskone and Zulema

53:25

Cobb. Our show was mixed by Reza

53:27

Dayan. Scored and sound designed

53:29

by the dynamic duo, Jay Breezy, Mr.

53:31

Jim Briggs, and Fernando, my man, Yo

53:33

Arruda. Our interim executive producers are Taki

53:35

Telenides and Brett Myers. Our theme

53:38

music is by Kamarato Lightly. Support

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53:51

and the Hellman Foundation. Reveal

53:53

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and PRX. I'm Al Lenson, and remember, there is

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