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0:15
Pushkin. In
0:20
early summer of nineteen ninety nine, there
0:23
was a strange incident in Belgium.
0:28
Products had been taken back
0:30
from the market when it happened, but
0:33
obviously it was already a bit too late.
0:36
It began at a secondary school in
0:38
a little town called Bornum, just
0:40
outside Antwerp. A group of students
0:43
got sick, abdominal distress,
0:46
headaches, nausea, trembling, dizziness.
0:48
Dozens of kids in the first wave all
0:51
ended up in the hospital and the only
0:54
commonality was that they had been eating together,
0:57
but each had eaten their own sandwiches,
0:59
so there was no possibility
1:02
of a food borne problem.
1:05
That's Benoui Memory. He's a
1:07
medical toxicologist at the Universe of
1:09
Luvin. He was part of the group that
1:11
investigated the outbreak among the students.
1:14
The only thing that they had in common is that they
1:16
had drunk coca cola from bottles
1:19
from a crate and allegedly
1:22
there was a strange odor in
1:25
the coke. And then the
1:27
school teachers went in
1:29
the different classrooms asking
1:32
is anybody feeling unwell
1:35
and drunk coca cola, which
1:38
of course made sense at the time,
1:41
but that led a few more children
1:43
to report sick to
1:45
be taken to hospital. The
1:48
story went national. The evening news
1:50
was a montage of ambulances and worried
1:52
parents. The next day, four
1:54
more schools reported outbreaks. I
1:57
mean, it was really a state of panic.
2:05
Every single Coca Cola product in
2:07
Belgium was pulled from the shows and destroyed,
2:10
thirty million cans and bottles, the
2:12
largest recall in Coca Cola history. The
2:15
company was in crisis, the stock
2:17
price plummeted. I was
2:19
transfixed by the Belgian coke crisis,
2:22
not because I had any special interest in Coca
2:25
Cola or Belgium,
2:27
but because the whole affair reminded me of
2:29
another panic, something I'd
2:31
lived through years before that left me
2:33
baffled and frustrated. My
2:39
name is Malcolm Gladwell. You're listening
2:41
to Revisionist History, my podcast
2:43
about things forgotten and misunderstood.
2:48
The next two episodes are about
2:50
a panic that swept the United States a quarter
2:53
century ago, an outbreak
2:55
of insanity. I
2:59
was in the middle of it, covered it as
3:01
a young reporter for the Washington Post, but
3:03
it took the Belgian coke crisis a few
3:05
years later for me to understand
3:08
why it happened it because
3:10
you know what poisoned all those Belgians.
3:14
Nothing. The
3:16
best explanation Coca Cola could come up
3:18
with was that some of the carbon dioxide
3:21
at their local bottling plant had been
3:23
contaminated with sulfur compounds enough
3:26
to cause a slight odor, but trace
3:28
amounts orders of magnitude below
3:30
what is necessary to cause illness. No
3:33
major toxins detected, nothing that
3:35
would suggest true poisoning, and
3:37
so epidemiologically, it made no sense
3:40
that there was poisoning
3:42
by a single same agent.
3:45
After looking into it, Memory and his
3:47
colleagues concluded that the crisis was
3:49
an example of what's known as a
3:51
mass sociogenic illness,
3:54
what used to be called mass hysteria.
4:01
People had real symptoms. They
4:04
were nauseated and vomiting and dizzy,
4:06
and the initial batch of cokes served at the school
4:09
bornem was a bit off, but
4:11
the coke didn't poison them. There
4:14
was no actual connection between
4:16
their sickness and the thing they thought
4:18
made them sick. Memory
4:21
says that he saw another sociogenic
4:23
outbreak firsthand in Soviet Georgia
4:26
in nineteen eighty nine. Soviet
4:28
troops had sprayed a group of protesters
4:30
with chemical agents, a terrible incident.
4:33
The strange thing, though, was that the children
4:35
of the protesters had the same symptoms
4:38
as their parents, even though
4:40
they weren't the ones who were sprayed. In
4:43
the medical literature, there are countless
4:45
cases like this, a group of
4:47
people linked by some shared
4:49
anxiety come to believe they
4:51
had been exposed to something malevolent.
4:55
And the scary thing is that when you're
4:57
in the middle of a sociogenic outbreak, when
4:59
you're vomiting and running a fever after drinking
5:02
your can of coke, you have no idea.
5:04
None of the cause of your illness
5:07
is all in your imagination. So
5:12
she spoke, I mean her native tongue was
5:14
German, and then she spoke Hebrew,
5:17
and she learned English, and she learned
5:19
French, and she learned Latin. This
5:22
is mom, Yeah, French.
5:25
She knew Aramaic very well. Yes,
5:28
she spoke with a private teachers
5:31
in a high school conversational
5:33
of Latin. This folk lay
5:36
each other. I'm at the house of
5:38
Ottahamash just outside of Baltimore,
5:41
on her porch. She's a professor
5:43
of medicine at Johns Hopkins.
5:45
Next to her is her sister Tamar, professor
5:48
of medicine at Yale University, and
5:51
next to Tamar their father Paul, retired
5:53
professor of medicine at Georgetown University.
5:57
Otta and Tamar are talking about their
5:59
mother, Marghite, also a
6:01
professor of medicine at Georgetown University
6:04
until she died of cancer in two thousand
6:06
and eleven. And then when she had cancer,
6:08
she's like, Oh, it's a little inconvenient, but it's gonna be
6:10
fine, just the way she did
6:12
her whole idea, and she was very, very positive.
6:15
She had an amazing ability to make
6:17
whoever she was talking to think that they
6:19
were the single most important person in the room with
6:21
the most interesting story. Marguite
6:24
Hamish was born in Germany, then
6:26
raised in Bucharest after her family fled
6:28
the Nazis in nineteen thirty six. She
6:30
met her husband Paul in Israel after
6:33
the war. She was the star.
6:36
He was the protector, He was the cook.
6:38
He was the come out of school and make sure you don't
6:40
have ningitis when you can't move your
6:42
neck. He came to the plays,
6:45
he came to the games. He cheered us on. He
6:48
took a backseat to her. He always
6:50
did. For sixty years. They
6:52
were a team. They would have breakfast in bed
6:54
together. They would drive to work together. They would work in
6:56
the same office, they would drive home together, they would make dinner
6:59
together, they would go and do whatever they were
7:01
doing for the evening together, and they would go in the same bed.
7:03
And my mother would say, Man, I just don't see any of your father
7:09
all the time. I just don't see
7:10
enough. Yeah, which right, Yeah,
7:14
and that's what you would say. It's like, I don't know where he
7:16
is. I'm like, I think you went to the bathroom, mom. No,
7:18
I mean they were crazy, like yeah, even
7:20
when they were in their sixties. You know, they always
7:23
read the paper on a Sunday morning and we
7:25
had a big window. Yeah,
7:28
and so they would read the paper
7:31
and they would literally chase each other around,
7:33
like I mean, like kids in law. I
7:35
mean like I'm like, okay, guys, like you're sixty five,
7:37
we've had enough fer to come on all right. Yeah.
7:40
It's it was bizarre. It's very bizarre.
7:45
Marguite Hamash discovered an enzyme critical
7:48
for newborn digestion, became
7:50
an expert on human milk and nutrition, lectured
7:53
all over the world, ran a major laboratory
7:55
at Georgetown, funded by millions
7:57
in research grants from the National Institutes
8:00
of Health. An intellectual,
8:02
elegant and cultured. Even
8:05
when she had three children, a full time job and everything
8:07
else, they went out at least east three times
8:10
a week to a play
8:12
or a concert or performance every
8:14
week. One weekend day was a museum, so the other weekend
8:16
they was cooking for the week. On Saturday
8:19
afternoon, the opera was on. Anything made
8:21
a sound, you were dead, So you took a nap
8:23
from two Live from Lincolnside. In
8:31
the late nineteen eighties, Marguite
8:33
Hamish had a small problem in her lab,
8:36
nothing major. A disagreement with
8:38
one of her researchers. The researcher
8:40
quit, Then she changed her mind wanted
8:43
her job back. The Hamishes
8:45
rehired her. The second time around,
8:48
the researcher grew even more disgruntled.
8:50
She ended up making a series of accusations.
8:53
Georgetown launched an investigation. Hamish
8:56
was cleared, but the researcher then appealed
8:58
her case to the National Institutes of
9:00
Health, the institution that funded
9:02
Hamish's research. Because
9:05
the NAH gives out billions of dollars in
9:07
research grants, they have a mechanism
9:09
to ensure their money is used appropriately. In
9:12
those days, it was an investigative
9:14
unit called the OSI, the Office
9:16
of Scientific Integrity. When
9:18
universities could not resolve disputes
9:20
on their own, the OSI would step
9:23
in and take the case. That's
9:25
what happened with Hamish. The
9:27
OSI investigated and wrote
9:29
a report. Several people ask
9:31
me what is this all about? And
9:33
the truth is that I really didn't
9:36
know what it was all about, in the sense that you
9:38
know, there was a lot of ranting and raving going on.
9:43
Now, let me ask you this, When
9:46
was the last time you heard about an internal
9:48
laboratory dispute between medical
9:51
researchers working in some esoteric
9:53
corner of human physiology. Unless
9:56
you're a scientist, I'm going to guess never.
10:00
People in academic laboratories work
10:02
long hours in close quarters. The
10:04
pay is low. You can spend years
10:07
on an experiment with little to show for.
10:09
You might see the person next to you get a job,
10:11
or publish a paper, or win an award
10:14
that you think you deserved. Competition
10:17
for funding is intense. Labs
10:19
are stressful places, so what That's
10:22
why scientists published their results to
10:24
work out disagreements among themselves.
10:27
Fights rarely go public, except
10:31
during a brief period in the early
10:33
nineteen nineties, the Window
10:36
of Insanity, when
10:38
everything went public. Back
10:42
then, I was on a team of science writers
10:44
at the Washington Post. We call ourselves
10:47
the Pod. We wrote about medicine
10:49
and physics and psychology, and covered the health
10:51
bureaucracy, the NIH the
10:53
Food and Drug Administration, the CDC and
10:56
what were we obsessed with? Not just us
10:59
but our counterparts at other newspapers as
11:01
well. Science fraud. There
11:05
was the Baltimore case, an insanely
11:08
complicated allegation against the Nobel
11:10
Prize winner David Baltimore. The
11:13
Gallow case, an unbelievable
11:15
tale of the AIDS virus and a lab
11:17
theft. The Cleveland Clinic
11:20
case It never ended, leaks,
11:22
lawsuits, page one stories, big
11:24
headlines. A science writer at
11:26
the Chicago Tribune, a reporter named
11:28
John Crudzen, wrote eighty
11:30
thousand words on the Gallow case. Eighty
11:33
thousand words for a newspaper.
11:36
I have written books that aren't eighty thousand
11:38
words. There was a nine hour
11:40
Congressional hearing entirely devoted to
11:43
a scientific paper entitled Altered
11:45
Repertoire of Endogenous immunoglobulin
11:47
gene expression in transgenic mice containing
11:50
a rearranged MEW heavy change
11:52
gene, nine hours
11:55
during which Congressman attempted to sound
11:57
intelligent on the subject of transgenic
12:00
MW products. Then
12:03
in the middle of all of this Marguite Hamish.
12:06
I never met her, But for some
12:09
reason, out of all the cases that bubbled
12:11
up in the great Science Panic, hers
12:14
was always the case that affected me the deepest.
12:17
It made me angry in ways
12:20
that will take the better part of this episode
12:22
and the next to explain. Why
12:25
did Marguite Hamish choose to spend
12:27
her life in a laboratory out of all
12:29
the things she could have done. It's
12:32
not hard to imagine she was
12:34
a refugee from Nazi Germany. Now,
12:36
there were times when I remember vividly.
12:38
I interrupted my mother because
12:41
I don't know, I was in sixth grade and a boy dumped
12:43
me or something. I said, Nikki dumped
12:45
me, And she looked at me and she said, you know, at
12:48
your age, I was in
12:50
an area shelter, you know, wondering
12:52
what I was going to eat. A
12:55
laboratory offered order and certainty
12:57
and safety. After all she
12:59
had been through what happens
13:02
outside the laboratory doesn't
13:04
matter, and then, out
13:06
of the blue, the outside world does
13:09
matter. A routine disagreement
13:11
with someone in her lab turned
13:13
into a national story. Marguite
13:16
Hamish has been forced to defend herself
13:19
against charges of falsifying data,
13:21
plagiarism, and mismanaging research
13:23
in her laboratory. Washington Post,
13:26
January twenty second, nineteen ninety
13:28
one. Written by one of my colleagues.
13:30
I'm not going to say who, because I think that
13:32
any of us back then could have written it.
13:35
It was what we did. I
13:39
remember vividly when the paper came out
13:41
and one of my friends said, have you
13:43
seen this paper? Have you seen this
13:45
article? And I said what article? And
13:47
I'm like you did your mom commit scientific
13:49
prad I'm like, no, what are you talking about? And I
13:52
read it and I was like, gosh, this is bad. It
13:55
was bad. The
13:58
Hamishes didn't want to talk at first. They
14:00
told me they didn't want to dig up all those memories
14:05
her fifty seven years it's
14:08
a long time. And I was I
14:11
was sort of protector relationship,
14:17
and he couldn't protect her from us. It was really bad,
14:19
and that's I couldn't protect her in this particular
14:22
case, Paul
14:25
Hamish could not protect Margit anymore.
14:28
She had been swept up in
14:30
a panic. Would
14:53
you knowing we allow yourself to be treated
14:55
by a doctor with AIDS. It's
14:57
been just over a year since Dennis David
14:59
Aser died of age in Florida,
15:02
and he left five of his former patients
15:05
with the disease of AIDS. The
15:07
Oprah Winfrey Show, September nineteen
15:09
ninety one. Oprah's guest is
15:11
twenty three year old Kimberly Bergalis,
15:14
one of five patients infected by doctor
15:16
Acer. Has there been any clarification,
15:19
Kimberly on how you contracted
15:22
the disease? Was there a cut
15:24
or was the doctor cut?
15:27
Or was it transmitted through the instrument? Or
15:29
have you been clarified on that as
15:31
yet? No, I haven't, you
15:34
don't, And I suppose
15:36
at this point it doesn't really matter that
15:38
much matter. The
15:41
AIDS epidemic was then at its height, there
15:44
was no effective treatment. The epidemic
15:46
had started with the gay community and IVY drug
15:48
users and people who had received contaminated
15:51
blood transfusions. But Kimberly
15:53
Brigalis wasn't gay or
15:55
a drug user or someone who had
15:57
gone through a major medical procedure. She
16:00
was just a college student in Florida,
16:02
a virgin from a religious family who
16:04
had done nothing more than Gosie the dentist.
16:07
If you were to chart public fear of HIV
16:09
over time, that summer of nineteen
16:12
ninety one, during Kimberly Bergalis's
16:14
slow and very public death, was
16:16
the peak. Bergalis's
16:19
parents took her on a train from their home in Florida
16:22
to Washington, d C. To testify before
16:24
Congress. They wanted mandatory
16:26
HIV testing for all healthcare providers.
16:29
An army of reporters from around the country
16:32
climbed on board to document her
16:34
journey. I was one of them. Kimberly
16:37
Bergalis's Ride of Rage September
16:40
twenty sixth, nineteen ninety one,
16:42
Washington Post. She
16:44
was down to seventy pounds by that point. When
16:47
she spoke to reporters, her father would
16:49
carry her in his arms. There
16:51
was a sixty minutes episode about her, a
16:54
long running controversy over whether
16:56
her dentists deliberately infected her.
16:58
Interviews Headlines and
17:00
then Oprah twice. Now
17:03
in a recent letter to Florida health officials,
17:05
Kimberly Bergalos makes it clear
17:07
who she thinks responsible for
17:10
her having this disease. In an excerpt,
17:12
Kimberly states, who do I blame? Do I
17:14
blame myself? I sure don't. I
17:17
never had a blood transfusion. I
17:19
blame doctor Aser and every single one
17:21
of you, bastard. She says, I'm
17:23
dying, guys, goodbye. Really,
17:26
we all just are interested in knowing, first
17:28
of all, how how you are feeling,
17:31
and how are you doing well.
17:36
I'm walking with assistance
17:38
right now, and
17:41
I'm eating a lot. I'm
17:45
so pretty weak, but
17:49
I feel better. A
17:52
few months later, she was going
17:56
The great anxiety of the early AIDS
17:59
epidemic was that science and the medical
18:01
establishment had failed us. They
18:04
hadn't protected us. And the
18:06
Regalles case embodied that fear had
18:09
a lot of abuse from your
18:11
medical establishment. I think that's one of the
18:13
most frustrating things. When
18:16
Kimberly appeared on OPRAH the final time,
18:18
her mother Anna was by her side, you
18:20
know, my daughter dying. They realized
18:22
that she is dying. They realized
18:25
that she is dying because of the
18:28
medical establishment, the civil liberties,
18:31
the gay activist groups, and
18:34
they're not doing anything. You know, I'm not
18:36
emotional. I'm not hysterical, I am enraged.
18:41
Ten years into the AIDS epidemic, people
18:43
had found their culprit the medical
18:46
establishment. Now, of course, just
18:48
a few years later, the same medical
18:50
establishment that everyone was blaming in nineteen ninety
18:52
one would figure out how to treat HIV
18:55
and the thing that was so scary, infection
18:58
by a healthcare provider would turn out to
19:00
be a one off, incredibly rare.
19:03
But no one knew that. In the summer of nineteen
19:05
ninety one. All we had was
19:07
fear and anger. And once
19:09
you start seeing something dark in the motives
19:12
of people in white coats, it doesn't
19:14
end. Every disagreement,
19:17
every anomaly, every mole hill becomes
19:19
a scandal. Belcomi
19:23
and detained a building
19:25
ifs t the DeFi Hindi.
19:30
That's exactly what happened with the Belgian cocusteria.
19:34
A few months earlier, Belgium had been
19:36
through a crisis. Chickens
19:38
in farms across the country had fallen ill.
19:41
Their feed had gotten contaminated with dioxin,
19:44
one of the most toxic of all chemicals. No,
19:47
it was major, it was it was amazing. It's
19:49
probably one of the biggest food scares
19:51
in I would say maybe in history Benouan
19:54
memory, the toxicologist was in
19:56
the middle of it. The Belgian government
19:58
had to recall anything that might possibly
20:00
have been in contact with the contaminated feed
20:03
eggs, chicken beef. The
20:06
news was filled with talk about how extraordinarily
20:08
dang dioxins are, how
20:10
even trace amounts can cause cancer. Every
20:14
day on television you you could
20:16
see animals that were being slaughtered
20:18
and dumped into mass
20:20
graves and vanitting open a specific
20:25
un
20:29
Then a few weeks later, a batch
20:31
of coke smells a little funny and the
20:33
panic starts, a panic
20:36
born entirely in the imagination of terrified
20:38
children and their parents and teachers,
20:41
school children being poisoned
20:44
by coca cola,
20:46
which is again one of the biggest
20:48
symbols of our modern food.
20:51
And so that was really the sort of cherry
20:54
on on that rotten cake. Epidemics
20:57
of fear repeat themselves. You
21:00
start with dioxin, you end up
21:02
with coca cola, You start
21:04
with Kimberly bergalis, you end
21:06
up with marguite Hamish. First
21:08
time its tragedy, second time is
21:10
farce. On
21:13
March twenty, nineteen ninety one, the
21:15
Washington Post published its second
21:18
article on a Hammish case. It
21:20
began the way all the science fraud stories
21:23
of that era began, with a call to
21:25
authority. Quote. The
21:27
National Institutes of Health has
21:30
concluded that a top scientist at
21:32
Georgetown University Medical Center committed
21:35
scientific misconduct by
21:38
knowingly submitting false information
21:40
in applying for two federal research
21:42
grants end quote. This
21:45
is now two months after the first big piece
21:47
on a Hamish case in the Washington Post. The
21:50
Office of Scientific Integrity has
21:52
finished its investigation and
21:55
found her guilty. Maybe
22:00
because this was a story written by someone
22:02
else, and maybe because I could see it
22:04
with fresh eyes, but I remember
22:06
reading the piece and reading it again
22:09
and wondering, what is this.
22:12
Something's wrong. This
22:14
was the point I became a skeptic
22:18
first thing. So it sounds
22:20
like there was some kind of formal hearing
22:23
which ruled against Marguite Hamish. Right.
22:26
Actually, no, here's
22:28
the way things worked at the Office of Scientific
22:30
Integrity. They would interview both
22:33
parties to a disagreement, write up
22:35
their findings, and then just lead them
22:37
to the press. Some one in the office
22:39
would slip his or her favorite reporter
22:41
a package of documents stamped
22:44
something like confidential or
22:46
for internal use only, or simply draft
22:49
put inside plain brown envelopes.
22:52
I got them. We all got them. Now,
22:55
if you scroll down to the second to last
22:57
paragraph in the Washington Post piece, you'll
23:00
come to this Hamish,
23:02
who is chief of the Division of Developmental
23:04
Biology and Nutrition in Georgetown's
23:07
Pediatrics department. We'll
23:09
have an opportunity to review the report
23:11
and submit a written rebuttal. End
23:14
quote will have an
23:16
opportunity she hadn't seen it, and
23:19
also submit a written rebuttal.
23:21
The OSI had concluded Marguite
23:24
Hamish was a fraud without showing
23:26
her the evidence or letting her respond.
23:30
I remember once, not long before this, doing
23:33
another story on a science fraud case. I
23:35
called the attorney for the accused, and he
23:38
said, well, I can't comment because
23:40
I have no idea what my client is accused
23:42
of. I took my leaked OSI
23:45
report out of its plain brown wrapper,
23:47
photocopied it, and sent it over to
23:50
him. No part
23:52
of that transaction had seemed
23:54
weird to me at the time. Now,
23:58
the most important question of all, what
24:00
was it that Marguhite Hamish did? What
24:03
was her alleged fraud? I
24:06
have been going on and on about this case for a
24:08
good four now, and I haven't told
24:10
you you know why, because
24:13
we didn't know. You won't find
24:15
a good explanation in the Washington Post story of
24:17
March twenty second, nineteen ninety one, just
24:19
vague mentions of an experiment involving
24:22
rabbits. Well, let
24:24
me tell you the final accusation against
24:26
Marguite Hamish. At the end
24:28
of a twenty thousand word NIH
24:31
grant application, in a section
24:33
that was completely peripheral to the
24:35
subject of her grant request, Marguite
24:38
Hamish wrote the following sentence,
24:41
last, but not least, we are presently
24:43
using the newborn rabbit as an animal
24:45
model for total perenthal nutrition.
24:51
After scrutinizing every word
24:53
of her grant application, the OSI
24:56
said that's wrong because
24:58
at the time Marguhite Hamish wrote the grant,
25:01
she didn't actually have the animal model
25:03
up and running. She wasn't presently
25:06
using newborn rabbits. Their understanding
25:08
of the word presently was it
25:10
stands as a synonym for currently.
25:15
Hamish's defense was she
25:18
had designed the rabbit experiments,
25:20
she had received the money to conduct those
25:22
experiments, she had obtained the special
25:24
surgical equipment to run the
25:26
rabbit experiments, and she had begun collecting
25:29
the necessary preliminary data on the
25:31
rabbits prior to the experiment.
25:33
She was going to do the rabbit experiments
25:36
presently. She was using
25:38
presently as a synonym for
25:41
shortly, which is the way that it is often
25:43
used in British English. The
25:45
doctor will be with you presently.
25:51
That's it. Her crime
25:54
was not writing the more conventional we
25:56
will shortly be using the newborn rabbit
25:59
as an animal model, or maybe
26:01
shifting the word presently to
26:03
the end of the sentence, which is the one place
26:06
where in American English we will accept the British
26:08
definition of presently, we
26:10
will be using the newborn rabbit as an animal
26:13
model for total perenthal nutrition presently.
26:16
But I don't know. She was born in Germany,
26:18
she was educated in Israel. English
26:21
is her seventh language. Okay,
26:26
now you might say this is ridiculous.
26:29
Still ridiculous cases sometimes
26:31
happen, so what. But after
26:33
Hamish it dawned on me that
26:35
they were all like this, all
26:37
the science fraud cases that we had become obsessed
26:40
with, Like the case of Mika
26:42
Popovic, a virologist at the NIH.
26:45
The scientists who figured out how to grow the AIDS
26:47
virus in the laboratory, without which
26:50
nothing, no subsequent research
26:52
on HIV would have been possible.
26:55
Here he is as a big character in
26:58
the film adaptation of and the
27:00
band played on Yes
27:05
At a time when people knew nothing about HIV
27:07
except that it was the most or as virus
27:09
anyone had ever seen. Popovic's
27:11
slaved away in the laboratory hours
27:13
on end, working with samples of HIV
27:16
infected blood with his hands. Anything.
27:21
How can I How can I
27:23
isolates virus? If I just can't keep the
27:25
settles alive? Popovic
27:29
was also accused of fraud. Why
27:32
because in a chart in the
27:34
paper where he first described growing the
27:36
AIDS virus, Popovic eight times
27:38
used the initials n D in
27:41
the place of a number. The charts
27:43
legend said n D meant
27:45
not done. The OSI said,
27:48
wait, you did do those experiments.
27:50
That's fraud, Except Popovic's
27:54
English is bad. Somebody
27:56
helped him write the paper, and that person put
27:59
in the footnote about ND meaning not
28:01
done. What Popovic actually
28:03
meant by end was not determinable,
28:06
meaning the results were inconclusive.
28:09
So why did Popovic miss the error
28:11
in the not done footnote. Maybe
28:14
because the article in question was published
28:16
in nineteen eighty four, when
28:18
AIDS was in its first terrifying stages,
28:21
and maybe he was in just a little
28:23
bit of a hurry to publish the most important
28:25
advance to that point against the epidemic.
28:32
The battle over n D went
28:35
on for years. The
28:37
o SI conducted more than seven thousand
28:40
hours of interviews and deliberations.
28:43
Popovic sued lost ran
28:45
through his savings, got chased out of Nih
28:48
over a dispute over the correct interpretation
28:50
of two initials n D. Presently
28:55
it was like the Spanish Inquisition, staffed
28:57
by a mob of angry copy editors
29:03
in the face of a panic. It is the job
29:05
of those who know better to stand
29:08
and say, like Benoa Memory
29:10
did, wait, it isn't the coke.
29:13
The coke is harmless. This is
29:15
misplaced anxiety.
29:17
It is the job of those who know better to
29:20
deliver the difficult truth. But
29:22
those of us who were science writers in that era
29:25
didn't do that. We lapped
29:28
up the leaks from the OSI,
29:30
We wrote our sensational stories,
29:32
and we tore apart the lives
29:35
of innocent people. No
29:38
one remembers Marguite Hamish today, she's
29:41
a footnote one scientist,
29:43
longone who worked away quietly
29:45
in a lab on a problem that most of us have
29:47
never heard of. First
29:49
of all, the amount of material that this
29:51
case generated was no
29:54
less than three hundred pounds of paper. Okay, I
29:56
mean, I would say, in their
29:58
house, right in their house. So and you didn't
30:00
see the part that was downstairs, now that you talk,
30:02
me an entire falcom, entire farcom. And
30:04
then up in the cellar there were boxes and boxes
30:07
full of binders, eat
30:09
hamish. Shouldn't be a footnote.
30:11
Her case should be a warning. This
30:14
is what happens when we let our fears
30:16
consume us. But I
30:18
opened a binder, and I mean her annotations
30:21
were she annotated
30:23
every every binder
30:25
had her handwriting in it. This isn't true. I didn't
30:27
say that, you know. I think this is misinterpreted.
30:30
Tiny mom handwriting everywhere,
30:33
yellow pages, legal pages, stuck
30:35
in I disagree with this. This isn't
30:37
right. Every binder she annotated. Every
30:40
mom Mom annotated every
30:42
binder of everything with this case. So think about
30:45
what she could have been doing at that time. Then
30:51
one day it stopped. How
30:53
that happened is the subject of the next
30:56
episode, how all the cases that
30:58
obsessed us just went away
31:00
and the fever passed. It
31:04
aged her. I think a lot. I mean when I think
31:06
of my mother and how she aged,
31:09
she was a woman who likes true. In
31:11
her late forties early fifties,
31:14
was still very beautiful, but by
31:16
the time she had sixties, she looked every bit
31:18
of sixty, and that decade was probably
31:20
hard for her. She was always g four
31:23
with me, and
31:25
I didn't know that she's suffering, and
31:29
to what extent she's suffering. This
31:31
whole saying I don't think, well, I take. I
31:34
talked to Mom a lot about it, and she what she
31:36
said was, I
31:39
pretend it's not happening until
31:41
unless I have to speak with the lawyer, and then
31:43
I get a migraine, and then the next day I'm fine. One
31:48
last question, and um, because
31:50
I don't want to keep you guys, Forember. Did anyone
31:53
from an AH ever apologize?
31:57
No? No? Who? Yeah,
31:59
No, I don't think anyone ever apologized. The
32:04
insanity passes, then
32:07
everyone pretends it ever happened,
32:11
except for those who don't have the luxury
32:13
of pretending I
32:16
was angry about it, then I'm
32:19
angry about it still Revisionist
32:29
History is a panoply production. The
32:32
lead producer is mil LaBelle with Jacob
32:34
Smith and Camille Baptista. Our
32:36
editor is Julia Barton. Flawn
32:39
Williams is our engineer. Fact checking
32:41
by Beth Johnson, Original music
32:43
by Luis Guerra. Special thanks
32:45
to Andy Bowers and Jacob
32:48
Weisberg. I'm Malcolm Gladwell.
32:56
Even when she was dying, I
32:58
took her in a wheelchair to the
33:00
Kennedy Descenter. As much
33:02
as I called the she needed to see
33:04
art.
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