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Crisscrossing here. Welcome to know their

2:30

episode a Revolution Alfredo this week

2:32

I'm excited to welcome Doctor Can

2:34

Do as my guest. He's also

2:37

known as Doctor V and he

2:39

has become a pass. An advocate

2:41

for health, happiness and human potential

2:43

is a fascinating story. He was

2:46

a refugee from Vietnam in his

2:48

childhood. He emigrated to the United

2:50

States and he became a medical

2:52

doctor and very quickly worked his

2:54

way up to the top of

2:57

his field in interventional radiology. Became

2:59

the Cheeses Hospital one. Lots

3:01

of accolades and was traveling

3:03

around the world speaking at

3:05

conferences and eventually just determined

3:07

that he was very unhappy

3:09

doing on. He was over

3:11

waves diabetic saying to devolve

3:13

several different chronic diseases and

3:15

despite being renowned in his

3:17

view on the com for

3:19

seeing everything that he set

3:21

out to accomplice me didn't

3:23

have a life that he

3:25

wanted to have. So he

3:27

began. He an

3:29

exploration of spirituality

3:32

and. Health. And

3:34

human performance and has now

3:36

over the past several years

3:38

merged science and spirituality in

3:40

his work out. His the

3:42

founder of the Performance and

3:44

longevity he's the author of

3:46

Thrive States are really incredible.

3:48

Burke he consults with. high

3:52

performers athletes leaders fortune five

3:54

hundred companies seeking to improve

3:56

their house performance engagement and

3:58

prosperity And what I love

4:00

about his work is that

4:02

it really transcends conventional boundaries

4:04

of medicine, extending into psychology,

4:07

philosophy, personal development, and spirituality,

4:09

as I mentioned. So I

4:12

really enjoyed this conversation with

4:14

Dr. V. I think

4:16

you will as well. Let's dive in. Dr.

4:19

V, pleasure to have you on the show. Thanks for joining

4:21

me. Great. I've actually been a

4:24

fan for a while. Thanks for having me. Awesome.

4:27

So you are a huge

4:29

advocate for health, happiness, and

4:31

human potential. That's maybe not

4:33

necessarily the default career path

4:35

for an MD. Of

4:39

course, there are many who

4:41

are exploring those avenues, but

4:44

it's not really the conventional direction to

4:46

go. So how did you end up

4:49

in the place that you are now? I know

4:51

you have a really interesting story, your childhood, and

4:53

the background you come from. I'd

4:55

just love to hear a little bit more about how you arrived

4:57

here today. Well,

5:00

great question. Many

5:02

people here gear me on

5:04

the phone and they think, oh my gosh, when

5:06

I first meet you I did not expect you

5:10

to look a certain way. I was actually born in

5:12

Vietnam shortly after the

5:15

fall of Vietnam. And I actually escaped on

5:18

a refugee boat filled with 2,000

5:20

other refugees. We were

5:22

on a boat for eight months in a Philippine refugee camp

5:24

for another three months, and then we were sponsored to America

5:27

by a Catholic church. And

5:29

growing up, I remember

5:32

being teased a lot. I got bused to a

5:34

more affluent area for school. I

5:36

was teased for the holes in my hand-me-down clothes,

5:38

for the stinky food my mom sent me to

5:40

school with. I got a lot of comments like,

5:42

go back to your home country, Chinky. And

5:46

I remember back in the day, my

5:49

revenge would be to be rich and

5:51

famous. And

5:54

I remember being inspired by people

5:57

like Robin Williams, Tony Robbins, and

5:59

Mick Jagger. But when I looked

6:01

at people that looked like me in the

6:03

media, they were caricatures. I don't know if

6:05

you remember Andy Rooney in The Breakfast Club,

6:08

but he played this caricature of an Asian

6:10

person and that's how I felt the

6:12

world looked at me. And so growing

6:14

up, I always thought that being myself and being

6:16

able to express who I was as

6:19

a person was never

6:21

really enough. That I had to put on some

6:23

kind of mask. I had to change the way

6:25

I sounded. I needed to sound more American. I

6:27

needed to adopt a personality. I

6:31

wanted to do media and entertainment. I felt like I had

6:33

a voice that wanted to share that. But

6:36

my mom, who

6:40

loved to remind me that they didn't travel across

6:42

the world on a refugee boat for me to

6:44

become a comedian. And so she

6:46

said, you have three choices. You can be a doctor,

6:48

a physician, or an MD. And

6:51

so I went

6:53

to medical school. But

6:55

the drive of not feeling enough and

6:58

not feeling worthy just constantly led

7:00

me to chase down something

7:03

outside of myself for me

7:05

to feel good, which was to get to

7:07

be valedictorian at my high school, to be

7:10

able to get into the top colleges, medical

7:12

schools. And when I was in medical school,

7:14

how do I find the toughest residencies to

7:17

go to in a field

7:19

of medicine that was cutting edge?

7:22

So I ended up being an

7:24

interventional radiologist. So that's a doctor

7:26

that uses medical imaging or radiology

7:29

to perform minimally invasive surgeries. And

7:32

after I graduated, became an attending,

7:34

I climbed the ranks, was traveling

7:36

around the world to speak about

7:38

the innovations of interventional radiology. I

7:40

become chief of interventional radiology at

7:42

my hospital. Then about eight years

7:44

ago, overweight, diabetic,

7:48

high blood pressure, prescription

7:50

medications. This is somebody that

7:52

was trained at the National Institutes of Health at

7:54

Howard Hughes, my medical institute, UCLA, all

7:57

alike, being able to get disease.

8:00

It was really one of those wake-up calls that

8:03

said, you know what? I'm

8:05

not given the information to

8:07

really be healthy. It was at

8:10

that point that I started to pursue additional

8:13

sciences, anti-aging, regenerative longevity medicine,

8:15

which was very lifestyle focused.

8:19

Then I tapped a little bit into spirituality.

8:22

In a very short period of time, I

8:24

actually reversed conditions that were considered

8:26

very chronic and lifetime conditions for

8:28

people. It was really my

8:30

journey of self-healing that allowed me to

8:33

step into this longevity space. What I

8:35

really do now, I not only

8:37

love talking about the latest advances

8:40

in longevity medicine, but

8:43

to recognize one thing that I

8:45

find most important, that

8:47

how we live our life, how we approach

8:49

every single moment of our life, the energy

8:51

and the consciousness we bring to each moment

8:53

to our life is actually medicine. Yeah,

8:58

I love that. I would agree with

9:00

that wholeheartedly. It sounds

9:02

like that was a major shift for

9:05

you in recognizing that there was

9:07

a disconnect between how you

9:09

were approaching your life and experiencing

9:11

yourself on a day-to-day basis even

9:13

though you'd achieved the highest echelons

9:15

of performance in

9:17

your field and recognition and accolades.

9:21

I presume,

9:23

given what you just said, you

9:25

were not experiencing joy and fulfillment

9:27

and health and well-being

9:29

in the way that you thought you might

9:32

once you got to the top of your

9:34

field in that respect. You're not alone in

9:36

that. I'm

9:40

sure you saw many of

9:42

your colleagues in the similar situation, whether

9:44

they were aware of it or not,

9:46

or eventually went in

9:49

a different direction, that this is actually

9:52

a familiar story, all too familiar story,

9:54

isn't it? It's a

9:56

very, very familiar story. Certainly, I have colleagues

9:59

right now. I've lost actually some

10:01

colleagues, the cancer and heart disease very

10:03

early on who were just stressed out

10:05

working at the hospital. I mean in

10:07

medical training, we certainly have produced a

10:09

culture of people not listening

10:11

to their own body's needs and constantly

10:13

caring for others, but caring in a

10:15

way that one wasn't very

10:17

useful. We never really learned any behavioral

10:20

type of things that made people choose

10:22

the disease that they actually had. So

10:25

we never really got training in doing

10:27

so, and just the residency training all

10:29

the way up into us practicing

10:31

was really saying no to

10:33

ourselves, saying no to our

10:35

bodies and our intuition and

10:38

driving the narrative of these type A personalities

10:40

that probably felt like they were not enough

10:42

or worthy at some point in life. And

10:47

we're starting to be able to understand this

10:49

concept a little bit more because the neuroscientists

10:51

are beginning to learn more about a part

10:54

of the brain called the

10:56

default mode network. This is

10:58

a very primitive part of our brain and

11:00

nervous system. And as we're

11:02

developing in utero all the way up until

11:04

the age of 10, it just

11:06

is a system that's going

11:08

to help us keep us safe and help

11:11

us survive as the brain autopilot system. And

11:14

so at a very early age, it's going

11:16

to download beliefs, values,

11:20

mindsets, worldviews from

11:22

our parents, from our teachers, from

11:24

society, from TV, from media, all

11:26

these things around us. It's

11:29

intimately tied to our amygdala or fear

11:31

centers and our hippocampus or our memory

11:33

centers. And because this thing is supposed

11:35

to keep us alive, it's going to

11:38

remember the things that emotionally charge us

11:40

and make us fear

11:43

the most. And as

11:45

human beings, we need safety,

11:47

love, and connection. And

11:49

when we don't feel like we've gotten those things

11:52

as a child, we would start to adapt

11:54

certain types of behaviors to get them. And

11:57

unless we are aware of this, most

11:59

of these things are going to be program before the age of

12:01

10. They become the seats of

12:03

our ego. For me, that

12:05

programming was you're not enough or

12:07

I'm not enough. I'm not worthy.

12:10

And so something outside of me, I

12:12

need to seek success. I need to

12:15

behave in a certain way. I need

12:17

to strive and you become someone you're

12:19

not. You develop this inauthentic way of

12:22

being and running life

12:24

through that mode or not being conscious that

12:26

you're running your life through that mode actually

12:29

drives the stress response in our body that

12:32

basically gives the signal to every single

12:35

one of our cells that you're running

12:37

away from a saber-toothed tiger. So inflammation

12:39

goes up, our immune system drops down.

12:42

Those two things epigenetically, we're giving

12:44

ourselves the signals of danger. And then our

12:46

cells are basically driving energy towards

12:48

increasing inflammation, just in case we got

12:50

a flesh wound and dropping down our

12:52

immune system because why expend that energy

12:54

on fighting against cancer or infection when

12:56

you're about to be someone's lunch? Absolutely.

12:59

And so people... Yeah, go ahead. Well,

13:02

I was just going to say, I

13:04

think social media and screens

13:06

have amplified this tremendously. I actually just

13:08

started reading a new book

13:10

by Jonathan Haight called The Anxious Generation,

13:12

how the great rewiring of

13:15

childhood is causing an epidemic of

13:17

mental illness. And I've written

13:20

and spoken about this a

13:22

lot over the years and interviewed a ton of people

13:24

on this topic over the years. But what we know

13:26

is that constant

13:28

interaction with the screen, constant

13:31

notifications, just keep us

13:33

in that default mode network state.

13:36

And then especially apps like Instagram, like

13:38

I have a 12-year-old daughter, she's

13:41

not allowed to have an Instagram account.

13:43

We have pretty significant limits on her screen

13:45

use, but I see this with a lot

13:48

of her friends, especially

13:50

for teenagers who are just hardwired

13:53

to seek approval and especially for

13:55

teenager adolescent girls, The

13:58

Instagram and apps like that just... Constantly

14:00

do what you're talking about.

14:02

They. Create a source

14:04

of extrinsic motivation. Where we're at, we're

14:06

always monitoring our own experience and thinking

14:08

about how are going to talk about

14:11

you know, post about it on Instagram

14:13

and then what? The. Response to

14:15

that will be rather than tuning

14:17

into our own intrinsic. Motivations:

14:21

And and desires which is to say

14:23

in our own experience which you know

14:25

I know. In. What we'll

14:27

talk about: this experience, rally meditation and

14:29

mindfulness actually help help us become aware

14:32

of what around internal experiences. But it

14:34

seems to me that. Almost

14:36

everything in our culture the ratings are

14:38

heading now. Our desire is designed to

14:41

take us out of our own experience

14:43

and create these external reference points that

14:45

we used to measure our self worth

14:48

and. And even just

14:50

kind of. Be. The campus for

14:52

our day to day life. No,

14:55

I completely agree. And you

14:57

know, a bigger question is

14:59

you know? Is there

15:01

a consciousness that's driving all? That's

15:03

neat. You know our our their

15:06

pockets and dollars that are driving

15:08

our ability to lead our ourselves

15:10

and our own intuition to tap

15:12

into something that you know to

15:14

to be easily controlled. The.

15:17

Trillion dollar rhetorical questions? Has the

15:19

you have I have I had

15:21

and yeah I mean the Ems.

15:23

Are you familiar with the social

15:26

dilemma? Interest on Harris's work better

15:28

stats the in the absence of

15:30

it as weren't we're not the

15:32

customers were the product And these

15:35

multinational corporations are. Maximizing.

15:37

Our attention so they can sell it to

15:39

the highest bidder. And that's the business model

15:41

of of social media nuts what? as and

15:43

remind people of it's. It's

15:46

not a fair fight. It's not

15:48

like we're we're just sort

15:50

of one individual dealing with

15:52

our own. you know, addictive

15:54

tendencies? Or are you know,

15:56

like, Our. own propensity to

15:58

get hooked into something It's not

16:00

like a, it's not an individual thing.

16:02

I mean, of course there are individual

16:04

patterns and ultimately we have choice

16:06

in how we respond to it, but

16:09

we have to understand that there is, that

16:13

is highly profit

16:16

motivated to overcome whatever

16:19

conscious resistance we might be able to

16:22

marshal in this fight and

16:24

most people are just gonna lose. Like

16:26

that's not a condemnation or a judgment.

16:29

It means that they

16:31

are so sophisticated in how

16:33

they hijack our basic

16:35

biochemistry and heart, yeah, our heart,

16:38

the things that actually enabled

16:40

us to survive in our ancestral

16:42

environment are being hijacked in

16:45

such a way that they work against us now.

16:47

And that's, I think, the thing

16:49

that people need to understand to release the blame

16:51

and the guilt and the shame that might come

16:53

with like, oh, I'm failing to

16:55

work with this or to overcome

16:57

this personally. Well, yeah, because it's

16:59

designed for you to fail, basically.

17:02

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. You

17:05

really in your own life and in

17:07

your work, you talk a lot about

17:09

fusing science and spirituality as

17:11

being the future of

17:14

biohacking and health. And we can break

17:16

down biohacking and what that means to

17:18

you because that's a term that

17:20

means a lot of different things to a lot of

17:22

different people. So let's start there, there's

17:25

30,000 foot view. Why do

17:27

you think that's so important in this day and age

17:29

to merge science and spirituality?

17:32

If anything, to me, it seems like in

17:34

the recent few years, you

17:36

know, they're moving apart rather than together,

17:38

which is unfortunate because I think that

17:40

I agree with you that they actually

17:42

need to be merged. So talk a

17:44

little bit about that. And then we'll

17:46

talk about how biohacking fits under that

17:48

umbrella for you. Yeah,

17:51

thanks. Yeah, when I

17:53

look at the field of longevity, I'm

17:55

very excited because there are a lot

17:57

of scientific advances that allow us

17:59

to be merged. to piercing the

18:01

human biology so much more. Certainly

18:03

we have diagnostics like new type

18:05

of CT scans that look at

18:07

soft plaque and our

18:10

ability to predict heart

18:12

attacks have never been

18:14

better. We certainly have

18:16

new DNA-based type of technology

18:18

that catches cancer even really

18:21

before they manifest full-body MRIs.

18:24

We've got stem cells and

18:26

exosomes, regenerative products that

18:29

allow our body to

18:33

heal itself a little bit better. There's so

18:35

much that's out there and I put

18:37

that in the bucket of the signs of

18:40

longevity. Just seeing what's about

18:42

to come out there, all these

18:44

technologies are going to exponentially increase

18:47

with AI and they're really really

18:49

exciting. The things that they've

18:51

seen in rodent models and in the Petri

18:54

dish and hopefully translating into

18:56

humans very soon. So the signs of

18:58

longevity is brilliant. However,

19:02

we look around the world to

19:05

where people have lived the longest and

19:07

it's not great science over there but

19:09

there's a book certainly that I'm pretty

19:11

sure your audience knows about called The

19:13

Blue Zones. These places

19:16

that Dan Buettner and his team

19:19

discovered were the

19:21

largest concentration of centenarians, people

19:23

living over a hundred. They

19:26

did some broad-based studies, some observational studies

19:28

as to why they live so long

19:30

and they came up with these nine

19:33

different things. A lot of

19:35

these things were just very simple. They

19:37

moved naturally every day and then stuffed in their

19:39

cells with food. They all had a deep sense

19:42

of a family, a tribe

19:44

that they belonged to and they had

19:46

this thing called eudaimonic happiness which

19:48

is not hedonic happiness which is the

19:50

pleasure of getting something, achieving something, money,

19:53

things like that but eudaimonic

19:55

happiness is the happiness you feel when

19:58

you feel like you're connected to something. bigger is

20:00

the happiness that's associated by having

20:03

purpose. So

20:06

I took these observational

20:08

type studies and asked, are

20:10

there any molecular or epigenetic

20:12

data that living this way

20:14

can actually lead to a

20:16

longer life? As

20:18

I discovered this, particularly with

20:20

my colleague over at UCLA,

20:22

Steven Cole, we looked at

20:24

sleep nutrition movement, sense of

20:26

purpose, community, our

20:29

emotional states, where our thoughts are. We

20:33

actually started to see epigenetic changes

20:35

in certain gene

20:37

complexes, as well as the work

20:39

from Elizabeth

20:41

Epple and blanking

20:44

on her name, Elizabeth

20:47

Blackburn on telomeres. That

20:49

how we live our life, our approach

20:52

to life actually changes

20:54

how our DNA is being

20:56

expressed. The

20:59

more I started to do this, I started to

21:01

understand that it was a

21:03

state of being that the people in the

21:05

blue zone had, that they

21:08

started to actually change the

21:10

biochemistry of their body, ultimately

21:12

leading to changes in genetic

21:14

expression. What

21:16

I learned from them most is,

21:19

yes, we've got the science of longevity, but

21:22

how you live your life is

21:24

also medicine. That there's

21:26

also the art of living. How

21:29

are you approaching each moment? By what

21:31

consciousness are you approaching each moment? Are

21:34

you in that consciousness that's gotten hijacked and

21:37

always looking for fear? Like I got to hustle

21:39

to get the next dollar, this person just rubbed

21:41

me off on the freeway and

21:43

building these emotions of stress and anger

21:45

in your body, which we know biochemically

21:48

what happens. Actually, what happens on the genetic

21:51

level now? Now we know as well. That

21:55

is a very important piece. I love what's

21:57

happening around in the science. How.

22:00

Weber. I also know of

22:02

certain populations of people that

22:04

I've worked with. The. Costly.

22:06

Want the newest greatest say that

22:08

out there. And. They wanted

22:10

latest protocols and they're stressed out about

22:13

following the protocol to the t that

22:15

I'm like you're not doing it right

22:17

my friend. Yeah. It's

22:19

how you approach shirt your life and

22:22

so it meant nothing. Those two things

22:24

together. Which I think is going

22:26

to compound our ability to not only

22:28

live longer, but to be the very

22:30

best version of ourselves and age better

22:32

as well. Yeah. That's

22:34

a very similar take a minute and

22:37

being clinical practice of the functional medicine.

22:39

When. Isn't for many years you can imagine I

22:42

had. Plenty. Of patients who show

22:44

up with you know, spreadsheets that I'd

22:46

go on and on and on with

22:49

every biomarkers you can possibly imagine and

22:51

trend lines and. Analysis and

22:53

all kinds of staff. And you know

22:55

than I would start talking to them

22:57

about just basic stuff like are you

23:00

do You have good relationships in their

23:02

lives? Are you doing anything for fine?

23:04

What are your hobbies? You know rights.

23:06

And it turns out that their hobby

23:09

was essentially. Managing. The

23:11

spreadsheet with all of their health

23:13

data and he had signed a

23:15

tweet every last variable in make

23:17

It Perfect and I rarely encountered

23:19

somebody like that who is truly

23:22

happy and to really as seem

23:24

to have allowed young a just

23:26

an innate sense of joy you

23:28

monier. Whatever. You want to

23:30

call it because I'd as you said,

23:32

like those the you're you're. You're.

23:35

Confusing the forest for the trees.

23:39

And you're getting further and further away often

23:41

in that kind of. Obsessive.

23:43

Mentality from the things that make life

23:46

worth living And and often it was

23:48

better for those people to actually take

23:50

a step back. In. I

23:52

smell I time training prison. Take a

23:54

step back from that approach to bio

23:56

hacking because it wasn't You know my

23:59

my simple question. The damage usually

24:01

has a major life better and co

24:03

as is actually subjectively major experience yourself

24:05

on a day to day basis. Better

24:07

in the answer is very often Now

24:10

so I'm I'm math and for agreement

24:12

with you than and I think it's

24:14

really him an important piece, especially in

24:16

this age of a I were and

24:18

classified software. It's. It becoming

24:21

easier and easier to. Take.

24:23

That type of approach Roka the because

24:26

I'm can process the data more efficiently

24:28

and even have a O L A

24:30

Lamb's Build spreadsheets for the assistant been

24:32

inserted. Outs are some of that that.

24:35

Material. So. Going

24:38

back to the the default mode

24:40

network and. The. Mental Autopilot

24:42

which is an easy way of

24:44

thinking about it. We have this

24:46

matter are autopilot. that's often. Running

24:49

in the background and that as

24:52

we've discussed in own social media

24:54

and screens another might factors in

24:56

modern world the sky amplify that

24:58

and keep it going. I'm

25:00

But then we have the. T.

25:03

Tr A the conserved transcription or response

25:05

to adversity Am and this is a

25:07

system as you've talked about where year

25:10

when you when we perceive strasse this

25:12

genetic it's like a genetic alarm system

25:14

the get triggered and not you know

25:17

in an ancestral environment that my to

25:19

happen in an acute. Setting.

25:22

Where like up there's alliance. you know it

25:24

the of the At and then at happens.

25:26

it's it's it's. Whatever. Happens happens

25:28

and then it's over and and we're

25:30

back to a more parasympathetic yes system

25:33

response rights. But the problem in and

25:35

in our society is that most many

25:37

of us it is living in this.

25:40

Ah, Ctrl act chronic

25:43

activation and. What?

25:45

You know what is the problem with that? I mean,

25:48

At. Risk of stating the obvious like

25:50

adding it's worth worth tough talking a

25:52

little bit about what the research shows.

25:55

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27:33

called the Conservatives Gibson or response

27:35

to adversity. So lot of times

27:37

are our Dna is built in

27:39

where it just it signals certain

27:42

type of things in the environment.

27:44

this gene complexes that. That's.

27:46

What will turn on to create you know

27:49

changes in our cells. It the behavior of

27:51

ourselves to the city are a is made

27:53

up of I don't know a hundred fifty

27:55

or so jeans. And within

27:57

those jeans you have. A.

27:59

Set of. That actually code for. Inflammation.

28:02

And inflammatory markers and you

28:04

also have some anti viral

28:07

era an immunity type of

28:09

genes that are within this

28:11

complex. What happens when the

28:13

body proceeds? stress. Again,

28:16

When. Didn't saber toothed tiger of neighboring

28:18

village by the attack us it's going

28:21

to reber body is skew. it's energy

28:23

resources for danger so it's gonna turn

28:25

on up regulate all those inflammatory genes

28:28

because what have you got a flesh

28:30

wound. And. So our blood can sit

28:32

in and things like that, so information

28:34

is increased. All.

28:37

The While. Again, I

28:39

mentioned earlier. That. During

28:42

that time of danger, you're not going to

28:44

try to protect yourself from cancer in sections

28:46

of your immunity genes get turned down. You.

28:50

Basically have elevation and. Inflammation.

28:52

Decrease in immunity. That pretty much sets

28:55

the stage for almost every single product

28:57

disease in your body. So it every

28:59

single one of your cells was armed

29:02

ready to fight for dangerous it's not

29:04

gonna have it's own. Energy

29:07

reserves. For. Me normal

29:09

functioning to basically performance at it's best

29:11

serve you happy sub optimal cells. They

29:14

lead to some optimal tissues leading the

29:16

sub up the more than some optimal

29:18

systems and then the whole ecosystems. Hard

29:20

to break down and all the sudden

29:23

in one particular tissue type is affected

29:25

more did you get that these you

29:27

know you gotta be permission the or

29:29

saab guess all of the sudden it's

29:32

he saw fajitas said l chronic inflammation

29:34

lead the cancer things like that and

29:36

so basically. Long. Term

29:38

are thrown it. Signals

29:42

in the city are a lease increase

29:44

of omission Drop their to use system

29:46

but basically causes us to have club

29:48

symptoms depending on where the body just

29:51

arrangement goes on. all the chronic disease

29:53

down the road now wire wise, the

29:55

so closely tied to that default mode

29:57

noom, the teapot modus or the pilot.

29:59

Survival and it's up. You know it's

30:02

it's the source of all these automatic

30:04

negative thoughts were constantly thinking of that

30:06

are repetitive. but it's it's it's on

30:08

to keep us safe. unless we're We're

30:10

that. it's on. This

30:13

a great study at the was performed

30:15

by Kaiser back in Nineteen Ninety Eight.

30:17

You might know about it's called the

30:19

Aces Study. Which. Is the

30:21

adverse childhood given the best

30:23

score? And they listen. Basically

30:25

ten big type big T

30:27

traumas, Divorce.

30:30

In the family, Drugs in

30:32

the family abuse, sexual physical

30:34

neglects. all these problems. And.

30:37

He noted that the more trauma that you had

30:39

a as. A child. Later.

30:42

On you would have a propensity

30:44

to have increased incidence of mental

30:47

health disorders. And physical

30:49

health disorders. And

30:51

so what we do know is that if you got

30:53

a lot of these traumas. Your. Debug

30:56

Mode is constantly on. the more it's

30:58

on. he could actually do we to

31:00

mental and physical health conditions are down

31:02

the road. And. So it's

31:05

our ability to it is

31:07

now. Have you picked Traumas?

31:10

Both. Unknowingly. As

31:13

a child that that the as the

31:15

sole the just wanted express yourself authentically

31:17

your this being the came into this

31:19

world the survey has want to be

31:21

neat authentically. But merely.

31:23

Saying know your little to this, you're

31:25

never gonna get a job doing this

31:27

or mommy's not going to love you

31:29

have you? Don't listen a mommy. all

31:31

the sudden you build these filters and

31:33

all of the somebody for most of

31:35

the get programmed is our i need

31:37

to be something other than myself to

31:39

actually get safety, love and connection. And

31:42

so you know on some the default mode.

31:45

Is it is programmed You're in

31:47

this ego and if you don't

31:49

recognize that ego is close is

31:52

you know when it's always on

31:54

it's high to that Ctr raise.

31:56

So living in that space will

31:58

eventually cause you had somehow. chronic

32:00

disease, which is why

32:03

as an interventional radiology at

32:05

the top of my game, I actually had

32:07

disease. Yeah,

32:10

it makes perfect sense. And when

32:12

you understand the connection between the

32:14

DMN default mode network and CTR8,

32:16

it sheds a lot of light on

32:19

why six in 10 Americans

32:21

have a chronic disease and

32:23

four in 10 Americans have

32:26

multiple chronic diseases. It's almost like how could

32:28

it not be that way when

32:31

we're in this chronic state

32:33

of hyperactivation and the main

32:35

effects are inflammation and depressed

32:37

immunity. Well, that explains a

32:40

lot of the modern chronic diseases that

32:43

threaten our survival now that are number

32:45

one, that are in the top 10

32:48

causes of death, cardiovascular disease, cancer, Alzheimer's

32:51

and dementia climbing the ranks every

32:53

year. It's a

32:55

major issue and it's, you know,

32:57

there's a tendency to really focus

32:59

on diet,

33:02

exercise, which are absolutely important. You know, neither

33:05

of us are going to disagree with the

33:07

importance of those things. But I feel like

33:09

this is the elephant in the room when

33:11

it comes to conversations around health and wellness,

33:14

because we all know people who

33:17

have done all of the right

33:19

things when it comes to

33:21

diet and exercise, but who

33:23

still have heart attacks or,

33:25

you know, or relatively early

33:27

in their life or still

33:29

develop cancer or develop autoimmunity

33:31

or something like that. And

33:33

in that situation, I think

33:37

it's almost always, at least from

33:40

my experience, this pattern,

33:42

whatever we want to call this entire

33:45

constellation of issues is

33:48

very often to blame. But it's

33:51

in some ways more difficult to shift

33:53

than just changing your diet, because you

33:55

really have to shift who

33:57

You are as a person and how you really.

34:00

The to the world rather than just what

34:02

you eat. That. Shock little

34:04

bit about that idea. How do

34:06

you approach that? Given

34:08

how deeply wire this is and and

34:10

how there's this mismatch between our genes

34:13

in our biology and than in back

34:15

and now, the environment that we live

34:17

in is so different than. The.

34:19

Environment that those jeans and biology evolved

34:21

in. The. Out as such a

34:24

good question and so individualized for people

34:26

as well. You. Know whenever

34:28

the wrote the first edition of my

34:30

book at Talk about the seven pillars

34:32

of things that we can actually console

34:35

in your life that changes the Epa

34:37

genome of and the messages that were

34:39

giving Forty Days Your Sleep Nutrition Movement.

34:42

Ah, Art. Mindset. Or thoughts

34:45

or emotions or community. And and then

34:47

that sense of purpose. And.

34:49

Here's this playbook. Add.

34:53

I was always wondering why when

34:55

didn't the playbook. Why? Are

34:57

people losing weight? Or why people

34:59

wire people you know not getting into

35:02

their symptoms. Wise. Every

35:04

single year we might come up with

35:06

so many things to do. In.

35:08

Terms of our resolutions. but six

35:11

weeks in we drop out. And

35:15

it wasn't until I really started

35:17

to understand his default mode. Some

35:19

people call it the egos, some

35:21

people call of the subconscious, but

35:23

it's developed basically up aspect of

35:25

our personality. That. Has

35:28

all the subconscious believes that doesn't

35:30

allow us to take action towards

35:32

the things that we actually want

35:34

to. Do work see which

35:36

is why certain people that are actually

35:38

able to make the sleep. Of

35:40

and and food habits nerf notice the

35:43

body to notice a shit. You know

35:45

a shift in their identity that that's

35:47

going to be great. doesn't even adult

35:49

energetic momentum be able to dead said

35:52

to jumpstart change of your life. But

35:55

it's. Not until you start

35:57

to notice basically the narrative.

35:59

The. The To Cheat. The

36:01

personality that that you are in that

36:04

cause that disease and if you not

36:06

noticing it is difficult to making choices.

36:09

Because. Your body's almost sort of

36:11

program and. Habitual. Eyes,

36:13

It's ways of thinking, feeling and

36:15

behaving that it's hard to make

36:17

change, But. I think once

36:19

people start to understand that there's this. Part.

36:22

Of by biology and nervous system. That's

36:24

not us. That if

36:27

we could sort of recognize that. And.

36:29

Started mixing new changes. that's when the transformation

36:32

happens and so what does look like for

36:34

people? He may look like. You.

36:37

Know so all these things are energetically connected

36:39

to be shift. Get. A

36:41

new Toy season. In how you approach any

36:43

of these seven areas of life, you notice

36:45

the shipping your body and so. It

36:47

might involve moving radically different. You'll notice

36:49

the ship them your body. Ah,

36:52

but. There. Are

36:54

things we do. They. Can actually

36:57

quiet down the default mode one

36:59

being all the Tropic breath work

37:01

with. We noticed you know people

37:03

in happened more I machines actually

37:05

see that as your blood p

37:07

H increases It also causes these

37:09

constrictions the certain reasons the brain.

37:12

What? Is one of those reasons the default

37:14

mode network. And. That's the stated in

37:16

a script below. People get on there

37:18

like an alpha states. Or

37:21

big time meditators. or and that states of

37:23

breath work is something that that's great and

37:25

doing so. Rediscovering.

37:28

The things that to we bring

37:30

you. that's sense of joy. You.

37:32

Know I think one of these things that are concerned

37:34

is hop about as a bucket list. You.

37:37

Know writing down all the things that you wanted,

37:39

the problem you wanted to beat the the people

37:41

you want to serve, the health of you want

37:43

to have great and all those things down. and

37:46

yes some losing to write down is good come

37:48

from the ego space. For. Some of

37:50

those things you to write down as it is is

37:52

from your soul space. And why

37:54

I think it's such a great way to be

37:56

able to do some of these things as you'll

37:59

notice as you cry. Things are. Like.

38:02

Say you know shit. A ten thousand dollar a

38:04

month? You know it at work. bark. You.

38:06

Close it off.you know what? I'm probably

38:09

so for doing that but didn't really

38:11

see will something. Men:

38:13

When I was out dancing good would

38:15

that new group of people last weekend and

38:17

we just got moving and laugh for no

38:20

reason. that really let me up. So.

38:23

Going through a bucket list so important

38:25

one, you're taking action but what you're

38:28

doing internationally to rediscover you are doing

38:30

routes to give him. Crossing off the

38:32

things that might have been programmed is

38:34

nothing to give you that I is

38:36

as this things that the make you

38:38

feel really allies. What

38:41

I've come to notice is. The.

38:43

Thing that makes you feel alive that

38:45

ceiling of the line for this. Is.

38:48

Also be energy that changes the

38:50

biochemistry and molecular biology that you

38:53

cells or bathing in. The.

38:55

Assay activates. The

38:57

Genes for Human Performance Mom devotee.

39:01

Of. Other yeah it serve feeling good

39:03

as good for you is it just

39:05

affects your shirt sure hand way of

39:08

talking about I would often say to

39:10

my patients yeah and it's not just

39:12

for. Hedonistic Reasons: We have

39:14

so much research now that

39:17

shows. That. The release

39:19

of endorphins for example, most white

39:21

blood cells in our body which

39:23

of course import very important in

39:26

our immune function have receptors sites

39:28

for endorphins and so that can

39:30

explain why things like exercise or

39:32

Dancer Sacks and actually Fine Tune

39:35

are immune system and help increase

39:37

army and defenses, reduce the risk

39:39

of cancer and other chronic diseases

39:41

etc. And I think. You. Know

39:44

one way of. Talking. About

39:46

this which you have been throughout the shown in

39:48

you doing your work is it. This. Is

39:50

kind of our birthright as human

39:52

beings as to experience pleasure and

39:55

joyce. And. Is

39:57

in so many ways the other modern

39:59

society does. Respect. That

40:01

or doesn't encourage that are doesn't

40:04

isn't set up to really allow

40:06

humans to flourish and to close

40:08

that that is free to do.

40:11

It. Right? And it's it's It's hard

40:13

to sell you something and gets you

40:16

fearful of the thing that you don't

40:18

have. It does. I'll use updates him

40:20

it's naturally within you already. That's right,

40:23

And I would say there's been a

40:25

confusing as well as distraction with pleasure

40:27

or joy. Yeah, cause some people might

40:30

hear this conversation and say what are

40:32

you talking about Our whole culture is

40:34

designed around pursuit of hedonism and you

40:36

know, like how can you sit sit

40:39

there and say that who our our

40:41

culture's. Not set up for people experiencing

40:43

pleasure. Enjoy! I actually disagree with that.

40:45

I think our culture. Is

40:47

set up around pursuing distractions

40:49

and temporary. You know, Mitt?

40:51

maybe? Temporary. Hit

40:54

of Dover Mean and

40:56

Like is a very

40:58

short lived kind of

41:00

feelings of. Numbness. Media

41:03

is is is another word rather

41:05

than a deep and true experience

41:07

of joy or pleasure in our

41:09

bodies were that comes from being

41:11

fully present and. And

41:13

and aware of our sensations

41:15

and and embodied fully. That's

41:17

really not a house, our

41:20

culture is set up and

41:22

and as you said that

41:24

so critical to our health

41:26

and wellbeing and. Our.

41:28

Spiritual growth and development as

41:30

while. I

41:33

mean, I. Have been really

41:35

wish through my work that people truly

41:37

understand. You. Know I had a daughter.

41:40

She's. Three years old now when she

41:42

whispers boards ah I was able to

41:44

attend any the prenatal is it's or

41:46

seals solo was going on and before

41:48

we knew we were like forty weeks

41:50

since the Obe, he asks us to

41:52

come in to do a up. The.

41:54

Do an induction. Long story short, we find

41:57

out that the. That. she was born with

41:59

a cord wrapped around her neck and ankle and

42:01

there were years of time she was completely apnic

42:04

and I was in the ICU just I was

42:07

in the ICU just really understanding

42:10

sort of the gift

42:13

and just how precious it is and

42:15

the fact that we're here in this

42:17

world is that

42:19

we are already enough that we

42:22

were loved enough to be given this life. It's

42:25

one of these cosmic type of I

42:27

don't know jokes that we have

42:29

that we are loved,

42:32

safe and connected. Unless

42:34

of course there's actually you know, say

42:37

but you tiger standing right behind you

42:39

but outside we are safe, loved and

42:41

connected. And if

42:43

we could remember that, you

42:46

know, we basically shut off that default

42:48

mode. And you know,

42:50

it's a cosmic game that we play but I

42:52

think that's a beautiful part of

42:54

the human journey is to remember ourselves and

42:57

our power to heal. Yeah,

43:00

I love that and I think

43:02

it's really important

43:07

place for us all to remember

43:09

to put our focus as the you

43:11

know, in this world there are so

43:13

many forces

43:15

that are pulling our attention away

43:18

from that. And this

43:20

is you know, one recent trend that I

43:22

can really get behind is gratitude

43:25

practice. I think more and

43:27

more people are understanding the value of

43:29

it. There's a lot of good research as you

43:31

know documenting the effects of

43:33

gratitude and one thing that that

43:36

does is just really redirect our

43:38

attention to you know, in part

43:40

what you just were speaking of that we are

43:42

loved, we are safe, we are many of us

43:44

at least. Obviously, that's not true

43:47

for everybody but there's

43:49

an enormous amount to be grateful for. And

43:52

when we turn our attention toward

43:54

Our own internal experience and allow ourselves.

43:57

Like in each moment, there's often the

43:59

same. Choice right? were like easing

44:01

the could go down this road.

44:03

switches. Like I can pick up

44:05

the phone and start my mercy

44:07

scrolling because I'm feeling a little

44:10

bit uncomfortable or anxious. or you

44:12

know, I'm feeling some strasser. Something

44:14

is going on. It's unpleasant. For.

44:16

I can. Like. Does

44:18

take a brass and really just

44:21

allow those feelings to be there

44:23

and see what emerges from that.

44:25

And we We all have thousands

44:27

probably of those moments on on

44:30

a day to day basis and

44:32

it's becoming. So much

44:34

easier to make that. First. Choice:

44:37

whether it's of as a

44:39

phone or tablet or computer,

44:41

T V or whatever it

44:43

is. And. There's a whole

44:46

again as we talked about industry that's

44:48

trying to. At is

44:50

inviting us to make that choice over

44:52

and over and over again. and investing

44:54

in us making that choice over and

44:56

over again though to to make that

44:58

choice to be still be president and

45:01

come back to her own experience and

45:03

and be in our body is. I

45:05

see it as a kind of

45:08

route, almost a revolutionary acts in

45:10

the culture that we live in

45:12

today. Oh yeah it's revolutionary, but

45:15

it's It's the key to our

45:17

wake up And evolutionary right? Yeah,

45:20

absolutely absolutely. This quote I keep

45:22

going back to ah from Viktor

45:24

Frankl and certainly people don't know

45:27

holocaust survivor was was Auschwitz stall

45:29

his father being answered my gardening

45:31

and sister yeah mother's sister and

45:34

murdered friends and family. Members tortured.

45:37

Please. Feel sad at this to say that

45:39

that you reminded me of. Between.

45:42

Stimulus. And. Response:

45:44

there's space. And.

45:46

In that space is our power

45:48

to choose our response. And.

45:50

In or response slicer growth. And.

45:53

Freedom. Every moment we

45:55

get to choose. And. yes

45:57

we are trained and pattern in

46:00

a way to react. But

46:03

in my online courses, I teach

46:05

a framework called IMPACT. I-M-E-A-C-T.

46:10

The I-M is something you

46:12

get to decide or choose within yourself. You

46:14

know, maybe do it after breath work or

46:16

nature, but are you love? Are you joy?

46:18

Are you generous? Are you confident? Are you

46:20

giving? All these states of being you get

46:22

to choose. And it doesn't matter what's

46:25

around you, what's happening. You get to choose

46:27

these states. So in every single

46:29

moment, you get to pause. Take

46:33

10 deep breaths in through your nose, do some

46:35

four, seven, eight breathing, go for a walk in

46:37

nature. You can pause when you

46:39

find yourself being triggered to something. A,

46:42

you have the awareness, oh, what's happening right now?

46:44

That story of not being enough just just came

46:47

up because, you know, she said this to me,

46:49

oh, okay, cool. All right. Yeah,

46:51

that's that old story. Default mode. Usually it's

46:53

that default mode that's triggering us. B,

46:56

you choose. What do you choose from? You choose back

46:59

from your I-M. Who do you

47:01

choose to be? Loving, joyous, connected,

47:03

generous. Okay, cool. You're that. And

47:07

then T, you take action. And

47:09

every single moment in life, the more

47:11

you can have these IMPACT moments, whether

47:13

you walk through a door, you're about

47:15

to have a conversation, you get very

47:17

intentional of who you want to be

47:19

as, as you make those things. That

47:22

is the process of transformation done repeatedly

47:24

over and over again, of being able

47:26

to make these new choices of

47:28

who you want to be, believing in

47:30

that vibrational state of your

47:32

true being rather than this old way of being. That

47:36

drives the transformation. I love

47:38

that. Yeah. One of my favorite Frankl

47:41

quotes is very similar. He said, when we're

47:43

no longer able to change the situation, we're

47:45

challenged to change ourselves. And,

47:49

you know, as you said, that's a person who

47:51

can speak about that with

47:53

authority, given what he went through,

47:56

compared to what most of us have been

47:59

through, that he could come out of

48:01

that experience and still

48:04

maintain that awareness and that

48:06

mentality is pretty incredible

48:09

testament to the power of that

48:12

perspective in

48:14

allowing us to be present to our lives no

48:16

matter what's happening, no matter what

48:18

the circumstances of our lives are. So

48:20

Dr. V, I've really enjoyed this conversation.

48:22

Tell us a little bit more about

48:24

your book Thrive State. I know it's

48:27

in the second edition now. It

48:29

was just recently released where people

48:31

can learn more about your work. Yeah,

48:34

well Thrive State is really the state of

48:36

being that we get to be once

48:38

we make the choices in these areas of life.

48:41

And that state is also the state

48:44

that creates our genes that be turned on

48:46

to give us optimal health longevity and peak

48:48

performance. And I talk a little bit about

48:50

why we don't get there, you know, part

48:52

of this part of our biology and how

48:55

to actually break through that. I have courses

48:57

that teach people how to do that too,

49:00

but you can get that book at Amazon

49:02

or wherever bookstores are sold. You could

49:04

find out more from my

49:06

of my online work and

49:08

courses at mythrivestate.com. And I'm

49:10

all over social media at

49:13

Dr. V spelled out V-O-C-T-O-R-V-M-D

49:15

on Instagram, YouTube, and all of social media.

49:18

Great. Thanks again, Dr. V. I really

49:21

appreciate you coming on the show and let's

49:23

stay in touch. Look forward to seeing what comes

49:26

next. Yeah, let me know how I

49:28

can support you in any way, Chris. Thanks

49:30

for having me. Take care. Thanks everyone

49:32

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