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Hello, everybody. This is Trevor,

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host of the history of Persia. I'm

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2:02

Okay. So I have

2:04

a guest here with me today, it is.

2:07

Back by popular to Matt. It's

2:10

Epstein. Hello.

2:12

I love being demanded. It's the greatest

2:14

feeling in the world. This is sort

2:16

of like there is, you know, everybody

2:18

loves hearing you, and Lada when you guessed

2:21

on the show. They they demand to

2:23

hear you back. But also, I'm

2:25

for both of you, I'm gonna pick, like, specific

2:27

stories where I feel, like, your most

2:30

suited. And for you, it is

2:32

dirtbag adjacent.

2:34

This setup is really working great for me

2:36

because Atlanta has to come in with back

2:38

and I get to come in when Anne reads a story

2:40

and she

2:41

goes, oh, this person sucks.

2:43

So

2:43

Yeah. I'm looking forward to this very much. Oh,

2:45

no. Exactly. Yeah. Lana is my hapsburg expert.

2:49

And then you're here for just kind

2:51

of, yeah, dirt bagginess. So

2:54

god. Okay. I've been I've been

2:56

doing research. We're talking about Lola

2:58

Montes, who is a person who I'm gonna

3:00

call Lola Montes throughout because that

3:02

was the name she gave herself. And

3:05

we respect that despite the

3:07

cultural appropriation nature of

3:09

that name. That is the name she went by and that's the name

3:11

she's not by. There is in

3:14

contrast to I wanna say

3:16

almost every person I've ever done on this podcast.

3:18

Like, I usually do I'm not doing like

3:20

you're Elizabeth the first. I'm not doing Marie

3:22

Antoinette. Like, there's so much information about

3:24

them. I tend to choose people

3:27

that I need to dig around a

3:29

bit more for facts. But Lola Montes,

3:31

there's an overabundance of facts. There's

3:33

so many interesting things. I was

3:35

like, oh, I need to glue that need to include that as going

3:37

on my notes yesterday. I was like, oh, and I was like

3:39

halfway through this biography. And I'm like, no.

3:42

My notes are so long. Like, I can't.

3:45

This is not like a fifteen part mini

3:47

series. So we're gonna do like a

3:49

highlights edition. Lola

3:51

Montes

3:52

highlights. For the listener's

3:55

benefit throughout the past two or

3:57

three weeks. Anne has been sending me

3:59

messages that literally just say, I can't wait to tell

4:01

you about this, but I'm not gonna tell you about it

4:03

yet. So I've gotten, like, three facts

4:05

out of context. I've done no prep.

4:07

I'm coming in with nothing. I've been expecting

4:09

to be delighted by the story. I've also sent

4:11

you several

4:12

pictures. You have. And

4:14

I look forward to those making any sense

4:16

at all because they do not right now.

4:18

Yeah. It's interesting. I

4:20

love I'm excited to do this podcast

4:22

on this topic. So first of all, just for you, for

4:24

those nurse, how on earth did I find this

4:26

person? So when I was researching

4:28

MPC, I was

4:31

the first thing I assumed too was

4:33

stuff you missed in history class podcast about

4:35

emperor c c. Like, with I just wanted to get,

4:37

like, they're really good for facts. I recommend the

4:39

podcast. They do sort of, like, very

4:41

brief, which is good for me just to, like, get an

4:43

overall idea so I can, like, turn into

4:45

five hour extravaganza.

4:47

Anyway, and in that, they mentioned we already did

4:49

a podcast about Ludwig the second

4:51

of Bavaria, the one who did the castles.

4:53

The one with the board game? Yes. The board

4:55

game. Quote,

4:56

quote, macking Ludwig. So

4:58

and then so was like, you know, I wanna learn more about him

5:00

because he's friends with c c. So when I listened to their

5:02

episode about Ludwig and they were like, oh,

5:04

you know what? There's this person

5:07

called Lola Montes. She's a trip

5:09

anyway. And I was like,

5:12

Who's this? So then I looked up on Wikipedia.

5:14

I was like, oh my god. This

5:16

is like what is happening. And then I

5:18

look back and they in fact did later on an

5:20

episode. Stuff you must have history classes been on for, I don't

5:22

know, fifteen years.

5:23

Yeah. So they did in fact do an episode on the

5:25

Lemontes, which they listened to, and there was one

5:27

fact in that where I was just like,

5:29

Not only do I need to do this on vulgar

5:31

history, but also I need to vowels in here.

5:33

Yes. When we get to that fact, that will tell you that

5:35

fact. But anyway, So

5:37

it is a journey learning

5:41

about Lola, and then it turns out,

5:43

so like Catalina de Orozzo, and there

5:45

are gonna be

5:45

similarities, She did write

5:48

her autobiography.

5:49

We love an autobiography of Queen.

5:52

God

5:52

bless. Her autobiography is written

5:54

fascinatingly in the third

5:57

person.

5:57

Yes, it is. I love her already.

6:01

She would say, I also love her,

6:04

which is me. Yeah. Okay.

6:06

So love herself. Oh my gosh.

6:08

Yeah. So we've like,

6:10

on Vogler history, like, I've really

6:12

fallen into not fallen into, but, like, we've

6:14

spent a lot of time in our international season

6:16

in, like, Western Europe, and I've been making

6:19

a conscious effort to, like, rewrite

6:22

that a bit and get into, like, other non

6:24

European countries. But Lola Montes, First

6:26

of all, she goes to countries we've never talked about on

6:28

this podcast before. She lived

6:30

an international life and

6:34

I can't not do it. This is the season

6:36

that will never end, but I just keep finding

6:38

stories that I can't. I'm like, oh, maybe I'll do this,

6:40

like, what in six months? No. I have to do it

6:42

now. So, Lola

6:44

Montes, she

6:46

has been there's a podcast I just found. I

6:48

think it's called the Irish History Podcast.

6:51

And we No. It's is

6:54

Irish? Okay. Hold

6:56

on. I what? That that's

6:59

where we're starting. Okay. And

7:01

I will say that the Irish people do seem to have

7:03

claimed her. So she

7:05

was born there. Her

7:07

mother was Irish. We're gonna talk about her parents.

7:09

But so in

7:11

terms of, like, she's

7:14

truly citizen of the world. But she

7:16

was born Ireland and it does seem like the Irish

7:18

are like she is our scandalous nineteenth

7:20

century heroine, we the Irish, even

7:22

though she was in there, and that's about her entire

7:25

connection to Ireland. So,

7:28

honestly, wait, so I have this

7:30

biography. It's part of my stack. I

7:32

have the microphone on, but whatever. This

7:35

biography written by Bruce

7:37

Seymour, Lola Montes, a Life,

7:39

which I find more helpful

7:41

than Lola's own autobiography because their

7:43

own autobiography is largely

7:47

lies that can be proven to

7:49

be lies because she lived

7:50

in, like, the late nineteenth century, and

7:52

there's a lot of people around them,

7:54

and we have a lot of their records. So we

7:56

kinda know what actually happened. So

7:58

his book, Rusty Moore's book kinda like goes through like,

8:00

well, she says this, but probably this.

8:02

Anyway, like, the first

8:04

two chapters are just about her parents, and I have to

8:06

say her parents, awesome, interesting story. So I'm

8:08

gonna start up with the parents as well, but I'll try to not

8:10

get too sidetracked. I know we both have a hard exit

8:12

time for this company. This

8:15

cannot be a sixteen part super special.

8:17

No. No. So I'm gonna tell you what the

8:19

parents will try to be as brief as I can while still

8:21

telling you all the juicy bits. So

8:25

Yes. So her father was an

8:27

Englishman named, Edward Gilbert,

8:29

who is in Ireland because this

8:31

is I'm not gonna get into, like, the

8:33

history of, like, military colonial

8:36

occupation, but, you know, there's a lot of that

8:38

going on here. This is an era where England was just

8:40

kinda everywhere, including in

8:42

Ireland. This is eighteen eighteen

8:44

for the record. So, like, we're in the,

8:46

like, Regency era. So her

8:49

father, and since Edward Gilbert was a British

8:51

man or English man, I'm

8:53

gonna have to be so careful because

8:55

the story there's like England, there's Scotland,

8:57

there's Ireland, and like at what point

8:59

were which parts of those colors.

9:01

Right? It's all very spicy. True.

9:04

So, like, shout out to the entire

9:07

to the Irish, hits out brigade members. I

9:09

hope

9:09

I don't

9:10

accidentally say something incorrect about your country

9:13

or Scotland. England, I

9:15

feel like They're cool with

9:16

me. I know we can defend England at this

9:19

point. Here's here's the

9:21

thing. Yeah. So it's

9:23

eighteen eighteen. And so Edward Gilbert

9:25

was handsome with a boyish face with light

9:27

blonde side whiskers and a

9:29

thin

9:29

mustache.

9:29

He had a cheerful and

9:32

engaging personality and he arrived in County

9:34

Cork in Ireland to keep down rebellion

9:36

in King George's Irish

9:38

Domain. So the king at this

9:40

point is George the third,

9:42

which is the one who

9:44

lost the American Revolution slash the one

9:46

from

9:46

Hamilton? The one

9:47

from Hamilton. Yes.

9:48

Yep. The madness of King George is the king. But

9:50

the actual power behind the throne is

9:52

George. The fourth, who is the

9:55

horrible husband of Carolina Brunswick.

9:56

Anyway, so

9:58

he's twenty six years old. And then Edward Gilbert.

10:00

And now this is, like, eighteen eighteen, so it's a

10:02

very, like, wickham slash Lydia

10:05

scenario. Because

10:08

we are in this Jane Austin era.

10:10

So he caught the eye of fourteen year

10:12

old, Elaine. Eliza

10:18

Oliver, a millionaire's

10:20

assistant. So Eliza was the

10:22

illegitimate daughter of a former high

10:24

sheriff of pork member of parliament.

10:26

So the Oliver's were like pretty influential

10:28

Irish family. She was

10:30

the youngest illegitimate daughter of her father,

10:32

so he had had like a bunch of children with a

10:34

woman, he didn't marry, and then later, he married another

10:36

woman, but he was like, cool. He's older than my

10:38

children. And she was one of them. And her

10:40

name was Eliza. And they were

10:42

planning to marry. So this is giving

10:44

me Elvis Presley meets

10:46

fourteen year old Priscilla Boulieu

10:49

in his real life.

10:51

Type vibes, just in the sense of

10:53

an adult man meeting a fourteen year

10:54

old. Anyway, so they were

10:57

going to marry Edward's

10:59

regiment was moving out of cork,

11:01

which was normal because army

11:03

regiments were often moved around because the

11:05

soldiers would come to town and make

11:06

friends, and that would stop them from

11:09

suppressing the Irish people. Oh,

11:11

colonialism humor. Yeah.

11:13

So they so they're moving So

11:16

before they left Edward and Eliza

11:18

got married

11:20

and she followed him to where his army

11:22

regiment was sent ten

11:25

months later, she had a baby. So

11:27

she was not they did not get married because she was

11:29

fourteen and pregnant, but she was fifteen and

11:31

had a baby And that

11:33

child was named Elizabeth Rosanna

11:36

Gilbert, and she would later

11:38

rename herself, Lola Montez,

11:40

And we're just gonna call her Lola Montes because if you have a

11:42

book or history bingo cart, this is a mother

11:44

naming the daughter after herself moment.

11:46

Because she's Eliza, and she names her

11:48

daughter, also Eliza. Yeah.

11:51

So I've noted here to the Irish heads up

11:53

your gate members. Please note, Lola was

11:55

born in Grange, a village

11:57

near Sligo. Near the

11:59

ocean and beneath the imposing shadow of

12:01

Ben Baldwin

12:01

Mountain, which all

12:04

sounds very lord of the Rings the Hobbit

12:06

to me. I

12:06

would like to live under the opposing shadow of

12:08

her. I think

12:09

that sounds like it's the best place

12:11

to be. Ben Baldwin Mountain. Later

12:13

in life, Lola would claim she's born in

12:14

Limerick, but she was not.

12:16

The

12:17

most pointless

12:18

lie. I'm like, maybe she

12:20

just didn't care or forgot. Anyway,

12:23

so Edward got bored of serving

12:25

in the quote, discontented Irish

12:27

hinterland, and he

12:29

thought it would be more fun, there's

12:31

more opportunity to advance if he went

12:33

to India. Where

12:35

British were being colonists.

12:38

And so they headed to India

12:40

via London. And Edward

12:42

was so sweet. He, on the boat going

12:44

to India, he had, like, all

12:46

his watercolors with him. He was, like, I'm

12:48

gonna paint all the beautiful things I see and he had all

12:50

these books to read, and he's just like, oh, we're gonna go to India, and it's gonna

12:52

be great, but he caught cholera and died. They

12:54

had to they arrived there.

12:57

So he said, Eliza

12:59

is now sixteen and a

13:01

widow with a baby.

13:03

And unless she remarried not really

13:05

much for her to do, in

13:08

colonial British, India, especially

13:10

not in Patna, the smallest

13:12

remote area where they Edward was

13:14

supposed to have been assigned Lola

13:17

later described her mother as vein and self

13:19

centered needing to be kept which is

13:21

wild for Lola Montes to be

13:22

cruising. Anyone is

13:24

that?

13:25

She said

13:25

her mother needed to be kept busy and around people

13:27

all the time. She was also sixteen.

13:30

Right. We were a baby.

13:32

And a

13:32

widow with a baby, like, in colonial

13:35

India. Anyway,

13:37

because Edward well, I

13:38

guess, because she had been well off and Edward was too.

13:40

So, like, they had enough money,

13:41

so she Okay. So

13:44

we're

13:44

gonna get into sort of, like, this you're familiar

13:46

with the secret garden by Frances hodges in

13:48

his name? This is giving me secret secret

13:50

garden. Exactly. Exactly.

13:52

So Lola was mostly raised by

13:55

Indian nursemaid, which

13:57

they're called the Ayas. Which

13:59

I know mostly because that's the name

14:01

of a character in the secret garden, the musical,

14:03

the aya. So

14:06

she's being cared for by Indian

14:08

nannies. And Lola was like, my mother

14:10

abandoned me. She didn't care about me, but it's

14:12

like, no, that's what everyone

14:13

did. That's like, British

14:15

mothers did not raise their children

14:17

in England. Like Right.

14:20

Also your mother was sixteen.

14:22

Yes. Like, Yeah. She

14:24

wanted help. I would want

14:25

help. Yeah. Exactly. So

14:29

allegedly, Allegedly,

14:33

apparently this, because she

14:35

was raised by these indulgent nannies, this allowed

14:37

Lola to become spoiled and

14:38

undisciplined, but I am gonna come out

14:40

saying,

14:41

like, this is a demon seed issue.

14:44

Like, Lola came out

14:46

a monstrous

14:47

person. And I don't think this is

14:49

what would happen to the kid from the secret garden.

14:51

If she didn't go into the north of

14:53

England and meet like

14:56

jerk boy who had the cholera or

14:58

whatever. This is just, like, if you just let her

15:00

go -- Yes. -- this is very

15:02

Mary. What's her name from the secret garden?

15:04

If she hadn't Yeah. Met

15:06

the, like, mean boy with, like,

15:08

polio or whatever, and then the, like

15:10

You know, weird child you can speak to squirrels.

15:13

Yeah. Yep. Exactly. Exactly. So

15:15

she's just kind of like growing up, spoiled,

15:17

and mean, but I feel like all the little girls were

15:19

in British India at this time. Anyway,

15:21

so Eliza was just like, I

15:24

gotta do something. And so

15:26

she moved from Patna

15:28

to Calcutta. Which was at

15:30

that point, a lot of British people were

15:32

there, and Eliza quickly found a new

15:34

husband. This

15:36

is like Do you remember Catalina de Eroso at one point

15:38

where just like how many cousins is she gonna

15:40

run into? This is like how

15:42

many spontaneous husbands are Lola and

15:44

her mother going to find

15:46

and it's a lot. So her

15:48

new husband was Scottish. His name was

15:50

Lieutenant Patrick Creevey. He was twenty four

15:52

years old and she's like

15:53

whatever. Seventeen now like getting

15:55

closer to twenty four, it's less weird.

15:57

I'm saying it's it's

15:58

not great, but it's definitely less weird.

16:00

So yeah. So she's nineteen by

16:03

now. She became missus Patrick Craigie, he

16:05

was often away. Eliza left

16:07

Lola with the ayes, who let her run

16:09

wild, basically. Eventually,

16:11

Patrick was like, we should just, like, train

16:13

Lola to be, like, non female

16:16

and, like, you know, a

16:18

human being

16:19

who, like, wear shoes.

16:20

So

16:21

they I, as you're like, good luck with that. Your child

16:24

sucks. We're not gonna do that ourselves.

16:26

I've sent you pictures of her, so you know

16:28

her as an adult has, like, really formidable

16:30

eyebrows. Yes. So I'm just

16:32

picturing a baby with those same eyebrows.

16:34

I'm just like like

16:36

a five year old who just has like

16:39

this free to call o level brow.

16:41

Absolutely. And, anyway, so they

16:43

arranged to send Lola to

16:45

England to go to boarding

16:47

school. She is five years old. The

16:49

entire country of India breathes the sigh of

16:51

relief at this point. Frankly, there's

16:53

a point where an entire country does breathe the

16:55

sigh of relief in the space. And I

16:57

have as more than

16:57

once. So anyway, they sent their

17:00

five year old. They're just like, bye. E. Like, so yeah.

17:02

That didn't connect to my brain when you said that the first time

17:05

she's five. Yeah. In boarding school, you have her five year olds.

17:07

Right. So her parents staying in Calcutta.

17:09

The ayes, who she raised her staying in Calcutta, and

17:11

Lola is then aged five. In the care of a

17:13

British couple she's never met, to

17:15

England. That ten month

17:18

journey, I believe. Anyway,

17:20

so Lola later wrote being sent out

17:22

from India, which she loved is where she first learned the life

17:24

lesson, quote, no one is truly free and

17:26

the world is only a great prison. We

17:28

already didn't

17:29

learn that in colonial India.

17:31

She's five. So Yes.

17:34

She was just running around in the dirt. Like,

17:36

no shoes on. Just like she

17:39

she only knew freedom until this point.

17:41

Not

17:41

that the people

17:42

of India knew freedom? No.

17:44

Anyway, so age five, she sent out from her parents

17:46

and the oil pays and people she'd ever known

17:48

to go and terrorize England.

17:50

So sorry. It's five months at sea.

17:53

So after five months at sea, she and her new guardian arrived

17:55

in London where she was then passed off from them to

17:57

Scottish relatives of her stepfather who are now

17:59

going to care for her. So they went to

18:02

Montrose, a small town

18:04

between Dundee and Aberdeen, shout

18:06

out to these Scottish hits out for

18:08

Gabe? As per low as Memoirs,

18:10

which she wrote in the third person. Quote,

18:13

the arrival of the queer, wayward, little

18:15

east Indian girl was immediately known to

18:17

all of Montrose, the

18:19

peculiarity of her dress, and I dare not say a

18:21

little eccentricity in her manners.

18:23

Served to make her an object curiosity and remark.

18:25

And very likely the child perceived the choose somewhat

18:27

of a public character may have begun

18:29

even at this early age to assume heirs

18:31

and customs of her own.

18:33

She is five years old,

18:35

assuming heirs of

18:37

her own.

18:38

But also, like, Big Mary Lennox, the

18:40

secret garden vibes. I'm just like, oh,

18:43

who's this like, mean snappy, unusual a

18:44

girl. Who is this

18:46

worst child in the world? Oh my god.

18:48

Okay. So she's so. She

18:50

was later this is the thing. Like, this is, like, in terms of

18:52

folk history, like, relatively recent. Like,

18:54

the eighteen hundreds. Like, the

18:56

the letters people wrote have not

18:59

decades because they're from ancient

19:01

papyrus. So Lola was later

19:04

remembered by the people of Montrose for

19:06

her pranks.

19:07

For instance, went

19:07

to church, when she got bored, she silently

19:10

stuck flowers into the wake of the old gentleman

19:12

sitting in a pew ahead of

19:13

her. She also would like run around town

19:16

naked, things like that.

19:18

When she was

19:20

ten, her so she was there

19:22

for five years, which I think I wrote somewhere

19:24

is, like, that's the longest shoes ever in one place for

19:26

the rest of her life. So her

19:29

stepfather's older sister.

19:31

So basically her aunt. Her step aunt

19:33

started a boarding school and a little, oh, wait. So

19:35

she was just in Montrose being five to ten years

19:37

old. Then she went to boarding school and she became

19:39

ten. Yeah. One of the

19:42

teachers my gosh. She started boarding school

19:44

at Monk Weymouth, and

19:46

one of the teachers at that school later

19:49

described her thus. Quote. It was

19:51

impossible to look at her for many minutes

19:53

without feeling convinced she was made up of

19:55

very wayward and troublesome

19:56

elements. The violence in

19:59

Obstinicy indeed of her temper gave two

20:01

frequent cause of painful anxiety to her good

20:03

kind

20:03

aunt. He also described her as looking

20:06

like, quote, a little Tigris just

20:08

escaped from one den to

20:10

another.

20:10

So, she's ten.

20:12

She's telling me

20:12

she sucks. Yep.

20:15

So this is what I would say. Like, if you could just

20:17

think about the first picture I sent you, which is

20:19

of this little angel faced

20:21

big

20:21

eyed. Girl that looks like

20:23

a little doll

20:26

person. Like That's

20:28

apparently

20:28

not the vibe that she gave off most of this

20:30

act. Artistic

20:32

license. Yeah. So

20:34

she stayed at this school

20:37

for one year, not because she's kicked it up

20:39

because her stepmother had, like,

20:41

had a fancy new rank. So they're step further back in

20:43

Calcutta, and so they want her to attend an even

20:45

fancier school. So she

20:48

went to a boarding school run by the missus

20:51

Eldridge in Bath. And I

20:53

love the recurring appearance of

20:55

Bath in episodes of this.

20:57

That's where Mary Shelley and Claire

20:59

Clairemont were there for a while. Beth

21:01

is where when Mary

21:04

of Modena was giving

21:06

birth to Bonnie Prince Charlie. That's

21:08

where Anne Queen Anne from the favorite was,

21:10

like, I've heard it was a change language. She didn't really have

21:12

a baby, like, that was in bath bath. It was just, like,

21:14

where the, like, the gossip is happening.

21:17

So a good fight from

21:19

Bath. Anyway, and there's also boarding school

21:21

there. So at this

21:22

school, she did learn a lot

21:25

of stuff. Like she known for being very well

21:27

spoken. She spoke French. Well,

21:30

she learned she learned

21:32

some French.

21:34

Honestly, that's everybody from,

21:36

like, in my experience who is spoken French. Just

21:38

like, can they speak French? Well,

21:40

I mean, kind of. She

21:42

has to learn playing piano, needle point dancing. She has to

21:44

learn, like, literature art philosophy. Like,

21:47

she she got a good education between

21:49

just, you know, doing hilarious pranks

21:51

and Yeah. During her

21:53

time there, she never taught her pulling pranks on

21:55

teachers and saw herself as the chief agitator

21:57

against adult

21:58

authority. This is where I wrote in my notes,

22:01

God, I love her. Oh,

22:03

yeah. So this is another. So she's in mantras

22:06

for basically five years. She's in bath for

22:08

basically five years. And

22:10

that's as long as she ever stayed anywhere for the rest of

22:12

her life. One of the

22:14

guardians in her James Era

22:16

described her as a tortoise who buries

22:18

her eggs lightly in the

22:19

sand. And leaves them to the sun

22:21

and to chance.

22:22

What? What does

22:25

that mean? I think

22:27

it

22:27

means she's just like a random person who never

22:29

thinks about consequences. Okay.

22:31

Okay, I guess.

22:34

I just I'm really hung up on the turtleness of it

22:36

all. I don't know. I think a Tigris

22:38

is definitely a better descriptor. So

22:40

when she was fifteen, going

22:42

on six seeing her mother came from

22:44

India to see her daughter for the first time in

22:46

ten

22:46

years, her mother who's now at twenty six

22:49

or whatever,

22:49

And this is because she was sixteen, so

22:51

it's like because it's like her mother was

22:54

from this kind

22:56

of good family and then she married this guy who, like, rose up

22:58

in the ranks. So I'm gonna, like, find you a

23:00

good marriage. They

23:02

did not get along well for reasons you

23:04

can imagine. Knowing both of their personalities,

23:06

which were I would argue the same personality.

23:10

Elijah explained her plans to bring Lilah back

23:12

to India to Mary Anne,

23:14

who is aged sixty four, who oh,

23:17

I didn't write it down. But Lola described him

23:19

as, I forget, some sort of,

23:21

like, consumptive nightmare or

23:22

something. Really does

23:23

not matter what kind of person he was if he's sixty

23:25

four and she's

23:26

And she's fifteen

23:27

going on sixteen fifty. Yeah. Now

23:30

Okay. Okay. So enter a

23:32

man named lieutenant Thomas James.

23:34

So he had, I think, sort of, accompanied

23:36

the mom from India. He

23:38

was coming back to I'm not

23:40

sure if he's from Scotland or England, but he's come back

23:43

to the island, the British

23:45

Isles, to convalescent. From

23:47

some sort of undetermined, probably

23:48

malaria. Right? That's what everybody gets in

23:51

India? I mean,

23:53

British people -- But as you're

23:55

not prepared

23:55

for -- Yeah.

23:56

But he was, like, not really sick, but he was just

23:59

kinda, like, oh, sick leave. So

24:01

anyway, so the mom met him. I know it's a thing

24:03

about, like, is he trying to seduce her? Is he the

24:05

mom's lover? And then she

24:07

trusted him to be

24:09

the chaperone to Lola. And

24:11

what happened is he pivoted to

24:15

really liking Lola. So he was twenty

24:17

nine years old. One of

24:19

his dogs is is Scoting Lola between her lodgings

24:21

and her academy, and she was just like, I

24:23

don't wanna marry A64 year old,

24:25

like, this is not for me. Giving

24:28

her like, as much as she

24:30

is, like, the demon seed.

24:32

She's also, like, been raped. She's been boarding school whenever. She

24:34

does not know the ways of, like, men

24:36

and women

24:37

relationships. I would.

24:40

Assume based on what

24:40

we know from Bridgerton about how much sex

24:43

education, you know, people

24:44

get. The highly

24:45

accurate historical document. Bridgerton.

24:49

Yeah. Anyway, so in her memoirs, she

24:51

said that she kinda was just like she saw him

24:53

as kind of like a fatherly figure

24:55

and he and they figured out, like,

24:57

he could rescue her like, he

24:59

could rescue her from having to marry the sixty four year old or she married him, but

25:01

she kinda didn't know what that meant.

25:04

Anyway, so he's twenty nine. She

25:06

is one year older than her mother was when

25:08

she

25:08

eloped. And

25:09

so they ran off together and because she

25:11

was a minor in a, like, wicked

25:13

Lydia Energy, like, he had to

25:15

marry her because run off together, and so they had a secret,

25:17

sexy marriage, Asterix, the sexiest it can

25:20

be when she is fifteen, and he's for

25:22

the night. The marriage was

25:24

not what Lola had anticipated. Although I don't

25:26

know what she had anticipated, she later

25:28

wrote. The child had sought only a

25:30

protector, but she found a master.

25:33

He brought her to his family's

25:35

estate, belly crystal,

25:38

which sounds I'm

25:40

gonna say. I don't know. It says maybe.

25:42

Anyway, I forget if he's Irish or Scottish

25:44

or English, one of those.

25:46

Probably not Irish. Anyway,

25:49

if he was Irish, he was probably a British

25:51

person in Ireland. He wasn't an

25:53

Irish person. Lola

25:55

realized that being a married teenage

25:58

wife stuck in the Irish countryside was this is

26:00

boarding

26:00

school. Like how her

26:02

father was like, I don't like being in a British

26:04

regiment and like the wilds

26:07

of Ireland. Lola was like, I don't like

26:09

being married to him

26:11

here. She she especially

26:13

didn't like the endless ceremonial pee

26:15

drinking.

26:15

Yes. She's

26:16

safe because that sounds fun. I am. So

26:19

she's living with, like, his, I don't know, sister

26:21

and mother and whatever the family where he he

26:23

was off doing army things. So

26:25

she wrote These endless cups of tea drunk with

26:27

methodical conscientiousness in the same

26:29

quantity in the same rooms, these medicinal

26:31

ablutions taken with unshakable solemnity

26:34

at Fix times, got on my nerves, and made the whole

26:36

business, hope whose pleasure I had never been

26:38

able to understand repellent to

26:40

me.

26:40

Oh, this

26:40

this girl really really hates

26:42

tea. Yeah, she hates tea, and

26:46

she

26:46

later wrote, I wished for nothing more intensely

26:48

than to be abducted once

26:50

more. But this time not by a potential husband

26:52

but by anything or anyone

26:54

who would who would rescue me

26:56

from the deadly monotony of this eternally

26:59

repetitive life. So not

27:01

great. And then also her husband began

27:03

physically abusing her.

27:06

So they traveled to Liverpool to

27:08

visit her childhood friends, But

27:10

like on the amazing race, when two

27:12

people in a relationship traveled together, it

27:14

can really bring out if you're compatible

27:16

or not, and they obviously

27:19

were not. And then he was going he

27:21

was, like, transferred back to India. So then they're, like,

27:23

great. It was been, like, a ten month

27:25

trip to Calcutta. Anyway, she's, like, Cal Keta,

27:27

I love it, and she's just like, I love it here because it's so much better

27:29

than the Irish countryside. And

27:32

then he's transferred somewhere more remote.

27:34

And he'd started by now maintaining

27:36

a notebook where he wrote down everything she did that

27:38

was, like, quote,

27:38

wrong, and he would, like, lecture her about it at the

27:41

end of every day or something like that.

27:43

They both

27:43

suck. But in different ways, Yeah.

27:46

So she wrote, days become

27:48

centuries when you're trapped in an unhappy

27:50

marriage. And eventually,

27:52

good for her, she left him.

27:54

She went to stay with her mother and stepfather in Kalcutta, her

27:56

mother was like, no way. Like, you I

27:58

was gonna get you this nice marriage to this sixty four year

28:00

old. You didn't take it.

28:03

Made your bed it. So she

28:04

said you either have to return to your husband or go

28:06

back to Britain, and she shows Britain.

28:09

So, like, just keeping track. She's now

28:11

nineteen years

28:12

old. She

28:13

actually divorced her, did she just leave it?

28:15

Sure. Well, so

28:18

because her husband was still alive,

28:21

so they

28:22

I think so, like,

28:23

actual separation. There's something about it where

28:25

it's, like, they

28:27

were divorced, but part of the terms

28:30

of divorced was that as long as either of

28:32

them was still alive, neither of them could

28:33

remarry. Oh,

28:34

I see.

28:35

Basically, this is gonna come up because guess

28:38

what? She gets married a couple

28:40

more times. So, yeah, so

28:42

she's nineteen years old, saddled with a scandal of

28:44

Eloping and then of a failed marriage. Her

28:46

ex husband gave her some

28:48

money so she could start her new

28:50

independent life And it's like, well, what are her options

28:52

here? Is she gonna head back to to live with his

28:54

relatives? Like, no. Is she

28:56

gonna

28:56

become, like, a governess? Like,

28:59

Uh-huh. I would

29:00

love her to be my governor. Does that

29:01

I think

29:02

she that would be a really fun sort of, like,

29:04

Mary Poppins, but not

29:05

You're prepared. Mary Poppins? Yes.

29:08

But so on the so

29:10

she's like, what am I gonna do? Luckily, on the boat

29:13

heading back, she met a new guy.

29:15

Whose

29:15

name is? This

29:17

is where I think, like, we need to keep it out. This is too. This is too

29:19

for just, like, meeting people on boats. Montana

29:21

is

29:21

Bill and husband. We're into it. Anyway, so

29:24

she met a new guy. His name was George

29:26

Lennox. He was all So nineteen

29:28

-- Yay. -- appropriate --

29:30

He was the nephew of a rich and powerful English

29:32

person. And so they basically just

29:35

like back on the whole journey back to

29:37

England. Everybody else who's on the ship

29:39

was like they were always together in his

29:41

room and

29:42

wonder what

29:43

they were doing. Yeah.

29:46

So they when they disembarked back in

29:48

England, arm in arm, And

29:50

then he, like, got a hotel, and they, like, stayed

29:52

together in the hotel. Even though both of them

29:54

are expected back in Scotland, so I guess that's where

29:56

he was from, but they didn't go to Scotland to stay

29:58

in hotel fucking. And she became a minor figure

30:00

in London society. And this is where I was like,

30:02

she's like a Julia Fox figure.

30:05

I've just kind of like a

30:07

scandalous, very beautiful woman who just you

30:09

never know what she's gonna do

30:10

next, and you're not quite sure why she's there or

30:12

why everyone knows her name, but suddenly everyone

30:15

does.

30:15

Eventually, his family and friends convinced him to cut

30:17

off this affair or maybe she got bored

30:19

of him. But by the end of the

30:21

summer, she was single once more and had spent most of

30:23

her money because she's like

30:25

everyone I've ever talked about in the podcast terrible with money.

30:27

They're gonna get

30:28

one kids out lady who, like,

30:31

has an accountant and it's gonna rock

30:33

our world. It's gonna

30:34

that'll be I feel and at that point, I'll stop being

30:36

the show because they stop

30:37

it. So she's just like,

30:40

okay. What am I gonna do? She

30:42

didn't necessarily wanna become like a freelance, like, cordesan type.

30:44

You know, she was like a romantic type

30:46

person. She's a she's very much a

30:48

serial monogamous in her.

30:51

Affairs. So she's

30:52

just like, I'm nuts. I

30:55

don't know. She she went up going to Edinburgh

30:57

to go and be with her stepfather's

30:58

sister, the one who ran the school.

31:01

Because she's just like, well, she just kinda figures her things out.

31:03

You know, it's just like vibes of, like, moving back in

31:05

with your parents vibes where you're just

31:07

like, what am we gonna

31:09

do? Try that.

31:09

Her mom was like, please don't. So she's like, okay. I'll

31:12

try the end. They try the

31:12

end. Yeah. Exactly. So then one day she was served for

31:15

the summons from her

31:17

X has been in India, Thomas James, who is suing

31:19

her for adultery. Oh, yeah.

31:21

No. Okay. So they weren't divorced yet. They

31:23

just separate it, but then the only way you could

31:25

get a divorce if you were a English

31:28

person at this British person at this time was

31:30

if there was

31:31

adultery. And

31:32

so she immediately went out and fucked a guy

31:34

in a boat just to make sure. Potentially.

31:36

Yeah. So now this was

31:38

her third scandal. So

31:41

yeah. So he was suing her for Delta. There's gonna be a

31:44

trial, etcetera. And

31:45

she's like, I need to do something with my life.

31:47

I'm gonna become an actress.

31:50

So she returned to London, center

31:52

of the English stage scene and from her connections through

31:54

her affair with Lenox who had been,

31:56

like, you know, when she was having her Julia Fox

31:58

era in London, like she still had friends

32:01

there.

32:01

And so is she like, pull some strings to make her way

32:03

on stage as an actress or she went for

32:05

acting lessons, but the acting teacher

32:07

very tactfully was like maybe you'd be better

32:09

as a dance sir.

32:12

No, honey. No.

32:16

But because at this point, she's

32:18

twenty one which is too old to, like, start

32:20

studying ballet or something like

32:22

that. So she had to find something more

32:24

easy to learn. Spain and Spanish

32:27

culture were very much in fashion at the time,

32:29

so she hired a Spanish dancing

32:31

teacher, and she learned from

32:33

them for four

32:34

months. That's

32:35

probably long enough for me. Yeah. To

32:37

learn one routine. And

32:38

then she took a trip to Spain

32:41

where she got to practice her dancing,

32:43

but also just kind of like leave the

32:45

whole, like, adultery trial.

32:47

Sure. Well, in Spain, she

32:50

learned some of the language and also picked up

32:52

the habit of smoking tobacco and ruling

32:54

her own.

32:54

Cigarettes. And we've had several in a

32:57

row women's podcast who

32:59

smoke.

32:59

I love

32:59

it. I'm also gonna guess this is where

33:02

the name comes from. Oh.

33:05

Oh. RET

33:05

era? Hang

33:06

on. Okay.

33:08

So because she had failed to show up for her

33:10

own adultery trial, The result

33:13

of that was she's fine. Guilty yeah. Oh,

33:15

and here's what happens. The punishment was

33:17

neither she or Thomas ever marry again as long as

33:19

the other was alive and they had to live

33:20

separately. No problem. Honestly, that

33:22

sounds like a punishment for him, also

33:24

for her.

33:25

Yeah. Like, Yeah. So they were officially divorced, but she

33:28

could never remarry. Because the thing it's

33:30

like this is still a kindergarten a plus. It's

33:32

like if you want to divorce and remarry in England,

33:34

you have to, like, get it. Letter

33:36

from the pope

33:36

effectively. That's from

33:38

the pope. Right? Oh,

33:39

sorry. Not from the pope from the head

33:41

of the king.

33:42

I guess. It has to be like king George

33:45

the third. Be like, hey, I wanna fuck this guy in a boat.

33:47

Can you imagine the number of letters that

33:49

four king must be

33:50

king? Exactly. I don't I think they would just, like, not

33:52

even show those to him.

33:53

So she would but but you

33:56

very much so I was coming.

33:58

So she went to Spain and she returned to Spain, not

34:00

as Eliza

34:00

Gilbert, but as Maria

34:03

Dolores de Porias Imontez. It's

34:05

not what I thought you were gonna say.

34:07

AKA Lula Montes. It went on

34:09

for so

34:09

much longer than I anticipated. She

34:12

gave

34:13

herself Cadelina de Erazo lengths, Susanum.

34:16

So

34:16

she returned she she returned and she

34:18

was Lola Monta. So part of the thing is like she

34:20

had, as you've seen from the images of

34:23

her, a Mediterranean complexion. One could

34:25

say. She has got, like, dark hair,

34:27

dark brows.

34:28

Like, I don't

34:29

know if it's necessarily all of complexion, but,

34:32

like, so she could potentially, if you sell that

34:34

picture, be like, oh, yeah. I could believe that was maybe a

34:36

person from Greece or Italy

34:37

or, you know. I assumed she was Spanish

34:39

when you sent me these pictures and said her

34:41

name was Lola Montes. So I

34:43

went with

34:43

it? Yeah. No. And she is, like, in these

34:46

pictures wearing, like, a Spanish

34:48

Mentia and, like, a veil and

34:50

stuff. So So she

34:52

returned to she

34:53

arrived. She was now Lola

34:56

Montes. Let me tell you the story of

34:58

Lola Montes. It's not just a

35:00

name. She comes with a backstory. Did she make up her own, like,

35:02

witness protection program style

35:05

backstory for I love

35:08

her. This is the moment where I'm like, no,

35:10

I'm in. Lola Montes

35:12

was the proud and beautiful daughter of a

35:14

noble Spanish family impoverished and exiled by the cruel war.

35:16

She was also the widowed of Don Diego

35:19

Leon, who had

35:22

recently executed. She

35:25

had come to England to teach singing lessons and Spanish vales.

35:33

And she was she

35:36

was, like I

35:38

don't know. I was looking at the pictures of her, and I'm just, like, who I've

35:40

gotta put pictures on around some people can see what she looks

35:42

like, or just like Google Lululemon test, but she was like

35:44

very striking looking. Yep. These,

35:46

like, pale blue eyes, the

35:50

dark complexion, I was trying to think

35:52

like it's like

35:54

if Emma Stone had black

35:55

hair. Like, she has these

35:58

huge pale

35:59

eyes. She's very beautiful is what I'm saying.

36:01

She's also very charismatic and sexy

36:04

and so she rich men took pity on

36:06

her and helped to make connections to become

36:08

a performer. Was she

36:10

sleeping

36:10

with these men? I

36:13

mean,

36:13

probably. And now we're

36:14

just gonna take a break for a

36:17

word from our

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sponsors. And we're

36:21

back. So she got her

36:24

first dancing I think

36:26

actually, who I I didn't realize, like,

36:28

again, there's so many details. I

36:30

can't. But she met some important guy

36:32

on the boat back from Spain, and she's like,

36:34

oh, I have Doría Lola

36:36

Montez. My husband Dieico de laude as educated by

36:38

the rebels. He he was so

36:40

sort of rich, like, theater and prestige type

36:42

person. He's like, great. I'll hook you

36:43

up. In

36:46

credible. Yeah. A

36:47

lot of, like, boat based networking going on in

36:49

these days. I also like the idea that if you

36:51

need a job, you can

36:54

just, like, fall to your knees and shout

36:56

your back story and hope that someone overhears you.

36:57

Like, I'm gonna try that. See if that works. It worked for her.

36:59

I have to

36:59

say, y'alls have

37:02

dark hair. So I'm

37:03

telling you, I'm one step away from being a

37:06

dancing teacher who sells Spanish Bales.

37:08

Yeah. So her first,

37:10

like, real gig was So and this is kinda I guess

37:12

this was a thing that happened. It wasn't invented for

37:14

her, but, like, during the intermission of plays,

37:16

like, people would come out and perform.

37:19

Until she got her job as, like,

37:21

a intermission

37:23

dancer during a performance of the Barbara

37:26

Seville, which is a

37:28

musical that takes place in Spain, so it's sort of

37:29

somatic. Her first

37:32

gig was at

37:35

this performance, of the Burrows Civil, those speak attended by

37:37

the Queen's Uncle and other members of

37:39

the

37:39

nobility. So, like,

37:42

from zero to that is --

37:44

Right.

37:44

-- or yep. You know what? She had four months

37:46

of dancing lessons. She went to Spain.

37:48

Planning. She had cast

37:50

and

37:51

ups. She's busy.

37:52

Is she actually have cast and

37:53

ups? Oh, yes. Yes. Yeah. No. That was a big

37:55

part of her performance. And

37:58

she also, at

37:58

this point, she started doing something that

38:01

she would do throughout all of her

38:03

which herself to the local arts critics of

38:06

newspapers. So that she, like,

38:08

won them over before they

38:10

saw her form so that when she

38:11

performed, they would be more likely to give her a

38:14

good review. Was she sleeping with them

38:16

also, maybe? This

38:17

is giving me, like, rapidly vibes somehow and

38:19

I'm like really here for it. She is gonna

38:21

go

38:21

to Paris

38:22

at one point. So the

38:24

critic of the Morning Post wrote.

38:28

Her figure was even more attractive than

38:30

her face, lovely as the letter

38:31

was. Her foot and ankle

38:34

almost faultless.

38:35

They say nothing about the dancing.

38:37

Only her ankles. Oh, boy,

38:40

man. Good

38:40

ankles. I'm gonna say her

38:43

foot

38:43

does come back. I hope so. Did she answer? She

38:45

was, of course, not a good dancer, but so

38:47

Charmy didn't matter. Like, in later reviews too, we're

38:50

also, like, Oh my god.

38:52

She's so beautiful. She's so lovely.

38:54

She blows kisses to

38:55

people. What a figure? Total

38:59

smoke show. Her

39:00

dancing's not great. Apparently four months of

39:01

dancing doesn't was enough. She's

39:04

like, this is all I needed

39:06

to know. So she did her

39:08

performance in front of the queen's uncle and the

39:10

nobility. Everybody loved it. The cast

39:12

andettes,

39:13

it's great. But like, immediately right after. So the guy who came on

39:15

the boat was like, oh, this is great. I'm gonna give for, like,

39:17

a contract to be

39:19

my, like, intermittent dancer. But

39:21

the thing is, like, if you'll recall, so she's now, like,

39:24

twenty one. When she was nineteen, she was, like, the

39:26

Julia Fox of London Society. And

39:28

then she also been involved in this,

39:30

like, pretty notorious

39:32

divorce

39:33

case. So there are people there who

39:35

are like, isn't that?

39:36

Hang on a minute. This breaking

39:39

woman with the mysterious name in the

39:41

castmates. Isn't

39:43

that Eliza Gilbert? And she

39:45

was like, no.

39:46

I haven't really done that

39:49

much yet. Oh, that

39:51

actually yeah. They were, like like, not only is

39:53

that, like, Eliza Gilbert, but she was, like, actively born

39:56

in Ireland. So

39:58

the newspaper is revealed her

40:01

true identity and she was fired or she lost

40:03

her role being a Spanish dancer. What did

40:05

she do? Like, not only did she say,

40:07

like, no, I am Lola Montes, she

40:09

wrote a letter to the editor

40:12

to be like So do

40:14

you remember the thing with

40:16

Hilaria Baldwin? From

40:18

where she was just like, I'm totally what

40:20

did how you say, cucumber?

40:22

So this has got,

40:25

like, big hilarious Baldwin Energy, where people

40:27

are like, you, Hillary, were born like, Boston. Your name

40:29

is Hillary. And she's and she's like but

40:31

I've spent how

40:34

you say so much time in Spain. And they're like, when were you in And

40:36

she's like, I grew up there. They're like,

40:38

when were you in Spain? Where

40:41

are you Spanish? And she's

40:43

just like, I love Spain. It's it's very

40:45

much that. But

40:50

Incredible. So she doubled down and this is what she does her whole life.

40:52

So she we're largely editor of being

40:54

like, I am Spanish. I

40:56

did spend some years

40:58

in bath. Going to school, but then I went back to

41:00

Spain. I've never been in London before.

41:02

I learned my broken English from an

41:04

Irish nanny.

41:06

What? Honey.

41:10

And and the newspapers in them back and

41:12

forth, they're like, she speaks English

41:16

fluently. She

41:18

also speaks Spanish barely.

41:21

So then she, like, followed that

41:23

up. She, like, showed up in person at the

41:25

newspaper office to plead her

41:27

case being like, I am

41:30

how

41:31

are you saying Spanish?

41:36

What what do

41:37

we what do we do with

41:39

this

41:39

now? So she kinda like yeah. But she saw

41:41

these connections with some, like, high ranking people because

41:44

she was like ex beautiful

41:46

woman. She met

41:48

German relative of Queen Victoria's, the

41:50

twenty six year old Prince, oh my god,

41:52

I didn't like this

41:53

up. Wait. No. It's not even his name. It's the roman numeral. Are you good with

41:56

it

41:57

myself? It

41:59

is Prince Heinrich. The seventy

42:02

second. Oh, now

42:03

I I take back my

42:05

lashes pretty high. It's so

42:07

many. Prince Heidrick, LXXII.

42:10

So many

42:11

diapers. Prince Heinerick, I

42:13

think

42:13

there's something about, like, in that family, you had to

42:16

call every son Heinerick or something. And he was He's

42:18

heine

42:19

thought the king Louise were bad, but, like,

42:21

they didn't even break twenty. So this is

42:23

Prince Heinrich the seventy second

42:26

of Royce, Lopenstein, Ebrahim, and he liked

42:28

her a lot. Enough to pay off her debts

42:30

and invite her to visit him in Eversdorf.

42:32

And then someone else was

42:33

like, you should also come and dance in

42:36

St. Peter's spur, and she was like sounds like across your beer tour

42:38

for me. And that

42:39

is what she did. So she sailed off to

42:42

visit her new friend, consignment, who I think was

42:44

like come visit sometimes, but he

42:46

didn't mean right

42:46

away. And he didn't mean, actually. Yeah. Like,

42:48

if you're ever

42:49

in the neighborhood, stop by, I will get coffee.

42:51

And he's like, I'm actually

42:53

already outside your door. Yeah. Exactly. So she showed up,

42:55

enjoyed herself at first, got quickly bored, and it's

42:58

kind of like when I'm playing a tabletop

43:00

board game and

43:02

I'm losing. I just start I just start fucking around because I'm

43:04

just like, I'm not gonna win this game. I'm just gonna,

43:06

like, do things that are gonna annoy

43:08

everybody

43:09

else. Because I am an asshole when I play tabletop board games and I'm

43:12

losing. So she just started

43:13

fucking things up because she

43:16

was bored. Heinrich

43:18

realized he didn't like her. In fact, she was a

43:20

demon seed nightmare

43:21

person, but

43:22

she wasn't going anywhere because where was she gonna

43:24

go? He figured the only way to get rid of her was to performance

43:26

for her somewhere else, very far away from

43:28

him. That is so smart. I

43:30

--

43:30

Yeah. -- honestly good for Henrik.

43:33

Yeah. So he wrote a letter to a friend of his,

43:36

the Hair Keppel Meister Karl

43:38

Reisinger at the Court Theater of the King of

43:40

Saxony and nearby Dresden. He's like, hey,

43:42

there's this Spanish answer,

43:44

she's great. Can she come there? I recommend

43:46

her

43:46

personally, and he was like, sure.

43:48

Can how soon can she perform?

43:50

Can she perform tomorrow? So

43:52

she went

43:53

there. As per this year of her life, the

43:55

audience didn't love her, but the critics and

43:58

journalists wrote rave reviews about how

44:00

beautiful she

44:02

was. And then she moved on to Berlin where she was, like,

44:04

really popular with the people, like, outside of

44:06

her hotel, there was, like, male admirers

44:08

every morning, just, like, desperate

44:12

to be with her or

44:13

whatever. She was eventually inevitably

44:16

exposed as a fraud,

44:18

but it kinda didn't

44:20

matter. One of her fans was king

44:22

Friedrich Wilhelm the fourth of

44:25

Ughui, Saxony, I

44:28

guess. This is when, like,

44:30

Germany isn't Germany. It's just all

44:32

little kingdoms. And so and they're

44:34

all led by people called Heinrich or

44:36

Friedrich. Anyway, so King

44:39

Friedrich Wilhelm the fourth, his

44:41

brother-in-law, was Zara Nicholas the

44:43

first of Russia.

44:44

Because

44:44

everybody in Europe is related to everyone else

44:46

in Europe. Yeah. So

44:49

okay. My

44:52

notes are get unhinged as I go along. So she

44:54

returned to Berlin when her

44:55

first whip based event occurred, which

44:57

was this. Go I

45:00

believe in one of the photos I've sent you, she is holding a whip, and that

45:02

became her trademark. So

45:04

there was

45:04

a military parade going on in honor of

45:06

the czar. So this is in Berlin.

45:09

So King Friedrich Wilhelm is the

45:11

king there. His brother-in-law is the

45:13

czar of Russia and the czar Russia

45:15

is visiting Berlin. So

45:17

there's a military break going on. And frankly, like, what we're

45:20

seeing happening in London right now, like,

45:22

similar to that stuff. Right? Just like,

45:24

crowds,

45:25

the queue. The queue is there to

45:28

see Lola Montes. I have been

45:30

following news of the queue from

45:32

my apartment in Chicago with great

45:33

interest. And

45:34

the queue is definitely to

45:36

me. But there's a similar vibe where

45:39

everyone's just excited. Something is happening

45:41

and like everybody's there. So

45:43

Lola was among crowd of people. So there's this military parade going on, but it

45:45

was like not well planned. I guess more people showed up

45:47

than they

45:48

expected. Lola

45:49

was riding

45:50

a horse because that's little

45:54

bit extra at any time. Yeah. Yeah.

45:56

Exactly. So she's on her horse. That's why

45:58

she has the horse whip, Alison, foreshadowing. Okay.

46:00

Yeah. So she was just like, duh duh duh,

46:02

and then she wrote into the area of reserve

46:05

for VIP mobility. Yes. Yes. Because

46:07

there's kind of

46:08

chaos, and she was just like, oh, let's

46:09

just go in this Excuse me. No

46:12

sneak red in here. Exactly. So a

46:14

guard came over and when he tried to remove her, she

46:16

lashed out at him with her

46:18

rotting whip. He's doing his

46:19

job. This was

46:21

a big deal. This was,

46:23

like, you know, attacking Army

46:26

soldier. And he's

46:27

kinda, like, punching the secret

46:28

service in the face. Right? Like, it's not

46:30

great. When you're, like, you know,

46:32

a yard

46:33

away from the

46:35

leg leader of the free

46:37

world. So she got a summons at her

46:40

hotel to answer the charge of

46:42

assault on a soldier when she received the summons, which

46:44

is a piece of

46:45

paper, She flew into a rage, ripped up the

46:47

summons, and stomped on the

46:49

pieces. Thank

46:50

you, Simedy Sam. God bless.

46:53

So then her dancing her dance does

46:56

involve apparently a lot of petulant stamping.

46:58

So this is maybe also what she's known by. With

47:00

her

47:01

beautiful feet.

47:02

So then she was charged with an even more serious offense, contempt of

47:04

the judicial process. But the whole thing

47:06

seems to not have gone to trial likely because

47:08

the king was a fan of

47:12

hers. But the story of her whipping and army

47:14

guys spread across Europe and almost

47:16

all of the early prints of Lola

47:19

show her holding a crop, which became her signature, and this

47:22

is the first of more than

47:24

one whip based events that

47:26

she

47:26

does.

47:26

So she moved on to Warsaw, which

47:33

Here's I We won't

47:34

get into it, but she was kicked out of the country.

47:36

Just got

47:37

kicked in. Poland? Yeah. Entire

47:40

Poland.

47:41

Yeah. Just these things happen when you're hurt. Yes. It was

47:44

something about she, like, says, like, chief of

47:46

police made a move on her, and

47:47

she, like, smashed a wine bottle on his head or

47:49

something like that.

47:51

If that's the case, then good for her. Yeah. And then

47:53

she continued to like, some of her

47:56

whipping and, like, attacks to people are, like, whenever

47:58

a man made an unwelcome pass at her, she

48:00

would, like, break things on their

48:02

heads, and that would get her arrested some

48:04

heads. But honestly, I like

48:06

that as a five. Anyway, so

48:08

she can get down to Saint Petersburg forming

48:10

randomly along the way. But by the time

48:12

she got to Saint Petersburg her reputation

48:14

from what hap we what

48:16

happened in

48:17

Warsaw, stays in

48:18

Warsaw? But not this time.

48:20

But but what happened there

48:22

was too much that the czar wouldn't allow

48:24

her to perform. So just

48:26

what happened to

48:28

Warsaw?

48:28

Leave it to your own imagination. She was kicked out. Not allowed to

48:31

turn to Poland. Don't worry about it.

48:33

So she was like, Where

48:36

should I go now?

48:37

Now that I'm in Saint Petersburg

48:40

and blacklisting by the country of

48:42

Poland, what should I

48:43

do? Exactly. And then here's

48:46

what you wrote. A coincidence

48:48

was to resolve my doubts as it so often

48:50

happened and suddenly without warning totally

48:52

unpredictable events during the course of my life and drove me

48:54

in a new direct Let me see

48:56

a new country that a quarter hour before would

48:58

never have occurred to me to visit. So

49:00

it seems to have been if she picked up a newspaper

49:02

at random. In a train station. And the newspaper

49:05

had a list of list is

49:07

a pun talking about

49:10

France list.

49:11

retroactive points

49:12

for the pun. Thank you. Thank you. So it

49:14

was does the schedule of Franz list was

49:16

doing some performances and she decided to try

49:18

and meet him to advance her

49:20

career? The

49:22

modern

49:23

day closings of that would be like if I

49:26

picked up at New York Times and saw an

49:28

article about like, Billy

49:30

Eilish, and I was just, like, you know what I'm gonna do?

49:32

I'm gonna go to her house. Maybe she can

49:34

help.

49:34

Like, incredible. Yeah. So

49:36

front list, There was Listomania. He

49:39

was, like, really popular -- Yeah. --

49:41

in this era. So he was a

49:43

Hungarian international celebrity. She

49:46

attended his concert in Dresden, shot him her

49:48

smoldering eyes look, and he was in. I

49:50

thought you were just gonna say she

49:52

shot him. She

49:54

does let us start carrying a pistol, but we're not there yet. Okay. No.

49:56

She she was just alive. She

49:59

gave him a

50:01

smoldering eyes look. Across the who did that? Was that that

50:03

was sort of Charles II's mistress's voice was just like,

50:06

mhmm. And then he was like, I like

50:08

your eyes. She

50:10

proposed to him that they unite their

50:12

artistic paths. And he

50:13

Well, that's

50:14

gonna be an unbalanced

50:17

union

50:17

right there. He will stomp

50:19

around to his beautiful music. He agreed and

50:21

she moved into adjoining rooms at his

50:23

hotel. Like, I really yeah.

50:26

A study list, like, in high school and no one

50:28

ever brought this drama up, but I'm so

50:30

disappointed.

50:31

Yeah. This is

50:34

wonderful. Just

50:34

like imagine the personal magnetism.

50:37

It was quiet. Like, I

50:39

wanted to show up at your house and

50:41

be like, hi. I wanna be your

50:43

partner, France list, most famous composer in

50:45

Europe. And he's just like, yes. And I

50:48

think there were a lot I think he had a lot

50:50

of groupies. Yeah.

50:52

But she like, she was not like, she was very striking looking, which

50:55

is, again, why I send you the pictures?

50:57

Because it's, like okay. Like, she is

50:59

memorable. That's too much her detriment.

51:02

Very memorable looking. She's very beautiful, but she's, like,

51:04

clearly got this, like, wild charisma

51:06

that she just can commit anyone

51:09

to do anything. While hanging with the list, she

51:11

also this is like it's a real forest

51:14

gump story of just like her meeting

51:16

every famous person of the nineteenth century

51:18

in Europe. She

51:20

met Wagner, who later wrote

51:23

about her as a

51:25

heartless demonic being.

51:27

Honestly, that's the response you want from Wagner.

51:30

That's what you hope Wagner says about you.

51:32

Yeah.

51:33

So meanwhile, let's wrote about her as

51:35

the most perfect, the most enchanting creature I have ever known.

51:38

Alright. Bronx.

51:41

He promised to arrange her debut at the

51:43

Paris Opera. So

51:48

like just for scale. Like, the Paris Opera is, like,

51:50

we've got it, like, a corp de ballet.

51:52

Like, these are people who have, like, trained

51:56

for years, maybe decades to, like, perfect the art

51:58

form of, like, dancing performance. And Lola is

52:00

just, like, I studied Spanish dancing

52:03

for four months. I yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm also

52:05

from

52:05

Spain. Like,

52:06

they're like, we can

52:08

get you to perform any information.

52:11

So

52:11

it's eighteen forty four. Paris is the

52:14

cultural capital of Europe. Lists had

52:16

given her letters of introduction and of course

52:18

everyone

52:19

there loved her. The head of the Paris Opera to

52:21

his credit was reluctant to have her perform an

52:24

admission because she was not a good

52:25

dancer. Is that what

52:28

he said?

52:29

Sorry, guys. Jeez. Not

52:32

good.

52:32

That's that's my It's a real

52:34

emperor's new clothes moment of, like,

52:37

Everyone, like, list is like, I love

52:39

her. She's perfection

52:40

itself. They're like, but is she

52:42

can't can't she dance prompts?

52:45

But meanwhile,

52:45

she's making friends with the movers and shakers of

52:48

the Bohemian artistic community.

52:50

This is around when she became

52:52

friends with George Sandd. Who

52:55

asked you about? Yes. Can you wear pants notorious pants wearer

52:57

of history? Yes. So,

52:59

Georgetown was a woman who wore pants

53:01

and wrote books

53:04

that's what I know.

53:05

Yes. I didn't look this up to verify it, but

53:07

I'm pretty sure that she and Shofan were

53:09

an item for a long time until Shofan

53:11

died of

53:12

tuberculosis. But

53:14

that's how I know her. And -- Yeah. --

53:17

and she glimpsing,

53:19

like, there's so many

53:21

rabbit holes I could have gone down in this story and I

53:23

I couldn't, but I do know that she's also a famous rep. So

53:25

anyway, apparently, Lola Hung out with George Dan wearing

53:28

pants. Yay.

53:30

Pants moment. There's no rumors about them being lovers, but I feel

53:33

like everyone was lovers at that point.

53:35

So like, who knows? also

53:38

became

53:38

friends with Alexandroupier,

53:41

the author of the Three Musketeers,

53:44

and other

53:46

famous books. And he was a very

53:48

famous, like, what's the work? Bull, Yvonne.

53:50

He was just kinda, like, a really charming.

53:52

I'm kinda thinking of someone who's like

53:56

that now. Just someone who's just, like, so charming and witty and

53:58

fun and, like, everyone just, like, fuck. Like,

54:00

how Brandon Tyler is

54:02

on Twitter? It's like, what

54:04

Alexander Toomer was like, I was just like, oh,

54:06

this guy's thought the witch.

54:08

Anyway, so he's in the midst of writing the three

54:10

musketeers. Like, she just arrived in

54:12

that moment. He was maybe her

54:13

lover. Like, everyone who's seen that at this point, people are like, and that was her lover. And

54:15

it's like, I don't

54:18

know because

54:20

maybe, but she

54:22

really seemed to go, like, serial monogamy lover

54:24

to lover. Like, I don't know if she's just, like, free

54:26

love sleeping around. Maybe she also

54:29

was. For

54:30

sure, we know that she had a lover who is Alexander Duggari Air.

54:33

The owner of the

54:34

newspaper with the highest circulation in

54:36

France, coincidentally also the drama

54:40

critic, extremely

54:41

convenient, Lola. Good for you. Through their

54:43

romance, Lola revitalized her career

54:45

as a dancer.

54:48

I don't think I said, but, yeah,

54:50

her performance at the Paris offer did not go over well. No. The

54:55

last Yeah. But

54:58

becoming friends with the post

55:00

high circulating drama critic

55:02

that

55:03

worked. It

55:04

helped. Anyway, but then later on

55:06

after the two had a quarrel over

55:08

whatever Lola doing something wild.

55:12

Ducera attended a party and

55:14

in a drunken state offended another

55:18

guy. Who

55:20

challenged him to a duel. And Lola was like, oh shit, you don't know

55:22

how to shoot a gun. You're just a drama critic. She knew

55:24

how to shoot a gun. Why? I'm not sure.

55:27

But she had a pistol and she's like, please let me teach you how to shoot

55:29

a

55:29

gun. He's like, no. No. I can figure this out. Of course,

55:31

he died in

55:34

a duel.

55:35

No. Sorry. This is not funny. No.

55:38

And this is this is not the only

55:40

duel that's gonna come up in

55:41

the story. Without his support, she

55:43

was no longer employable as a dancer in

55:45

Paris. Well, that

55:47

does say something about the quality of

55:49

the dancing, but So she's just like she

55:51

she just like okay. So she

55:54

partied. She went to

55:56

various spas. She

55:58

tried to find Wellesleyan men who would pay her to dance while she figured

56:00

out her next move. Eventually, she

56:02

wound up in Munich.

56:06

And this is where

56:08

she coincides with

56:10

Ludwig. So

56:12

Ludwig, this is not crucially.

56:14

So C. C.'s cousin friend

56:16

was Ludwig the second

56:20

of Bavaria. The castles

56:22

of Macking Ludwig is

56:24

the grandson of this

56:25

Ludwig. So this is Ludwig

56:27

the

56:27

first. So different guy same

56:30

Bavarian laid back five.

56:32

So this is

56:32

something else. So when I was researching CC, so I have

56:34

this oh, I have a year. I

56:36

have this like nineteen sixty five of CC out of

56:39

print, but whatever the library had it,

56:41

parrot, called the lonely empress, and

56:43

there are these great paths just

56:45

about Lola Montes, where I was researching C. C. And I was

56:47

like, oh, what if I researched Lola Montes? No.

56:49

You're researching C. C. And I'm like,

56:51

I'm gonna but I'm gonna renew this book. From

56:53

the library because, okay, I'm gonna quote from

56:56

this book by Joan

56:57

Haslet. Like a beautiful

57:00

black raven The notorious

57:01

dancer, Lola Montes, had swooped down

57:04

upon Munich, seizing us her prey, the

57:06

gullible,

57:07

old king.

57:10

This book

57:10

is so good. The lonely address, it's it's all written like

57:12

that. I was just like, this is I love

57:14

the writing

57:15

style of this. Just like

57:18

Yes. But it goes on.

57:20

Few lovely women have ever raised so

57:22

much hatred and antagonism as

57:24

this Irish born adventure rest.

57:26

Who within a few months of her rival in Bavaria had

57:28

succeeded in completely disrupting the most peaceful and conservative of

57:31

countries, conquering not only the king's

57:32

heart, but insisting on dictating his

57:36

policy.

57:36

So Ludwig, who's

57:39

like sixty years old, I

57:41

think. She's got those.

57:44

You know, twenty two or something. So he

57:46

was alerted that the Spanish dancer, Lou

57:48

Lemontes, was in town and would like to

57:51

perform at his

57:51

theater. He was coincidentally,

57:54

and actually, not coincidentally, probably

57:56

she knew this. He was currently

57:58

obsessed with Spain and Spanish and

58:00

beautiful

58:01

women. So

58:02

he Okay. Those things she actually is.

58:05

He requested a private meeting

58:08

with her. And

58:10

so this is probably an apocalypses

58:12

story, comma, but maybe

58:14

it's not. And it's a

58:16

great story. And this was one of the first things

58:18

I read where I was just like, I have to do this on the podcast. I can't this I

58:21

owe it to the kids up for gate to do

58:23

the story. So apparently, he invited her

58:25

to meet him. And she wore

58:27

her, like, best, you know, black velvet Spanish. Got all

58:29

her shawls out. Turn

58:34

her mania. Her castinets ready to go. I'm sure she

58:36

did. She is always with her castinets for

58:38

Bullwhip and her

58:39

pistol. Oh, there's also I don't even know when it's

58:41

happened to

58:44

story, but maybe this is what happened to Warsaw. She was showing how

58:46

she kept a dagger hidden in

58:48

her garter at all times and people are so shocked

58:50

that

58:50

she, like, showed her leg.

58:52

Maybe that. So she's kicked her to Warsaw. Anyway, all times.

58:55

Anyway, so

58:56

the meeting,

58:57

I won't delay. So he went like, she

58:59

went to meet him

58:59

in his

59:02

office. And he allegedly pointed right at her breasts

59:04

and said nature or

59:06

art. Yeah.

59:08

A lot of piece of shit.

59:12

Which I wanna say I'm pretty sure breast implants not invented. So

59:14

I think he was asking like is this padding or

59:16

are you actually just deleptuous? Uh-huh.

59:20

And she stole one up to his desk, picked up a pair of scissors,

59:22

cut open her

59:23

dress, and revealed her breasts to

59:25

him. The literal,

59:27

it's out moment. This is where I'm over, dude.

59:29

I can't. This is where I'm just, like, not that I wasn't already

59:31

in, but this is one of the first things I read about

59:33

her and I'm, like, I'm in. I can't knock me

59:35

in. Like, this

59:38

is

59:38

Yeah. Purchase. Now, this

59:40

is probably not strictly true because then she would

59:42

have had to have gone home with a cut open

59:45

kids out dress.

59:47

And sometimes

59:47

it sounds like she might have done. But

59:50

someone would have written about it.

59:52

Yeah. So he agreed to let

59:54

her perform a Munich during the breakup

59:56

of play ironically titled the

59:58

Enchanted Prince.

1:00:00

He wanted to have her painted for his

1:00:02

gallery of beauties, so he just had, like,

1:00:04

The most beautiful women he

1:00:05

met, he just had them painted, and like, had a gallery of beautiful women in his

1:00:08

house. By bar, this

1:00:10

guy is

1:00:12

gross.

1:00:14

I mean, he's

1:00:17

not not. He was in

1:00:19

love with her and she

1:00:22

took advantage of that and began considering herself as royal mistress,

1:00:24

even though I don't think they'd slept together

1:00:26

yet, but he just started giving her he

1:00:29

she became his favorite

1:00:30

Like, she was she was his favorite and she

1:00:32

was just like, I consider that because real mistress. She

1:00:34

okay. So there's a lot

1:00:38

of, like, religious stuff going on that I'm gonna skip

1:00:40

over because there's not room for this

1:00:42

discussion and I don't care to read

1:00:44

about that

1:00:46

because that's interesting to me as cutting open your dress. Right. Take

1:00:48

that moment. But anyway,

1:00:50

so she was born

1:00:52

in

1:00:52

Ireland. She was,

1:00:54

but it's

1:00:55

like Ireland during the British colonial

1:00:57

year. So she herself was a

1:00:59

protestant person. Okay. But

1:01:01

as Lola Montes, she had to pretend she was Catholic

1:01:04

because Spanish

1:01:07

people were Catholic.

1:01:09

I'm

1:01:09

sure she did a

1:01:10

great job of pretending to be a Catholic too. It

1:01:12

was just, like, oh, no. She, like, accidentally,

1:01:14

like, went to products and services and stuff. So

1:01:16

I'm only under grocery.

1:01:17

We were, like, look, I am the like,

1:01:19

how you say I I picture her,

1:01:21

like, being at a catholic mass and everyone's saying

1:01:23

the prayers, and she's just, like,

1:01:25

pretending she knows all the

1:01:27

word.

1:01:27

Plus, if we're

1:01:27

committing all the way while doing no

1:01:30

research at all? No. Yeah.

1:01:32

She didn't meet you, apparently. Alright. So she

1:01:34

encouraged him to become a

1:01:36

free Mason. Yes. And there were rumors

1:01:38

spread that she was a secret agent of the British

1:01:40

foreign secretary, which

1:01:42

is

1:01:43

like, You know what? I wish. No. She was not it was she was the

1:01:46

tortoise laying the eggs and just doing she's

1:01:48

just a random person. She had no

1:01:50

people in

1:01:52

land.

1:01:52

A sky in the whole world. It's like

1:01:54

it's like if the pink Panther was a spy,

1:01:56

that's what reminds me. It's

1:01:57

like, that's all, wait a

1:01:59

minute. No.

1:02:00

So she encourage him to become a freemason and rumor

1:02:02

spreadsheets to secret agent. Ludwig

1:02:04

wrote, I'm now like a

1:02:06

man of forty or even a use of

1:02:08

twenty because he is he's sixty. And he's like, I'm so

1:02:11

young. I'd feel forty. Which

1:02:14

to him is yep. I'm

1:02:18

in the grip of passion like never before. I I am happy.

1:02:20

My life has a new vitality. I'm young

1:02:22

again, the world smiles on me.

1:02:25

This is not

1:02:28

true. Vaveria Vaveria was

1:02:30

not smiling on him in the situation. Like,

1:02:32

as I just got, like, the raven

1:02:34

haired, temptress. Something.

1:02:36

Anyway, so he just gave

1:02:38

her, like, a pension and money. She

1:02:40

began assembling her own royal court.

1:02:42

I think she's just like this. You

1:02:44

know, she's just, like, failing upwards, and she's, like, I was

1:02:47

always destined for this. Her she

1:02:49

also got a large black dog, who

1:02:51

she named Kirk.

1:02:54

She always had a dog with her until later she gets a different pet.

1:02:56

But again, I'll tell you that later. Anyway,

1:02:58

but her walking this

1:03:01

giant black dog turk around was like a like, people saw that

1:03:03

all the time and Love it. Only

1:03:05

a

1:03:05

medium racist name for a dog.

1:03:08

All things

1:03:10

considered.

1:03:10

She did also have a go.

1:03:14

Yep. Anyway,

1:03:14

so she had the dog, but she

1:03:17

also, like, was still maybe, like,

1:03:19

she would still see men alone, which was like not what

1:03:21

one did. Were they her lovers? I don't

1:03:23

know, but I

1:03:26

think she just didn't she liked men more than

1:03:27

women. She like hanging

1:03:29

with men. When

1:03:30

there's one guy who she wanted to visit,

1:03:32

but he didn't come by. So then she

1:03:34

like storm. She, like, walked

1:03:36

through town. Everyone saw

1:03:38

her. She went to, like, the place where he

1:03:40

lived. She rang every doorbell because she wasn't

1:03:42

sure which spicy lift ins. So, waking up there. And something I think would

1:03:44

have broken every window

1:03:46

of this building. True

1:03:49

carrie underwood style. Yeah.

1:03:52

Yes. Big yeah. Carry on the

1:03:54

road, like, keying the truck energy.

1:03:59

So she did stuff like

1:04:00

that. The police went to investigate her for breaking off

1:04:02

the windows, and she was like, that wasn't me.

1:04:04

Some of us have impersonated

1:04:06

me. I

1:04:06

was another lady wearing a Spanish shawl with

1:04:08

captain. Walking with a giant

1:04:12

dog. Ludwig amended his

1:04:14

will to leave her with the

1:04:16

pension as long she married.

1:04:18

He also so there's

1:04:20

a whole thing with her citizenship, which

1:04:24

So she was pretending she was

1:04:25

Spanish. Passports existed at this

1:04:28

time. Like Look like you could

1:04:30

check. Yeah.

1:04:32

Yeah. But so she couldn't show her, like, actual I

1:04:34

don't know. I guess, she would have been a citizen

1:04:36

of Britain or maybe

1:04:39

she had Irish passport anyway, but she

1:04:41

couldn't show this because they showed her real name and that she was in Spanish. So she had

1:04:43

no papers.

1:04:45

So he was working at getting her

1:04:48

Bavarian citizenship.

1:04:50

So

1:04:50

she could be elevated to

1:04:54

nobility. Her

1:04:58

influence on the king,

1:05:00

and you know there's been other stories, not just

1:05:02

on the pockets, but it was just like, oh, this woman, she's

1:05:04

a bad influence on the king. She would just, like, be watching him.

1:05:06

It's, like, here, that's actually true. She actually is a bad influence on him.

1:05:09

She is a

1:05:12

monster person.

1:05:13

She was extremely

1:05:14

unpopular. What's a bavarian people?

1:05:16

Who imagine? Yeah. From CC, we know

1:05:18

they're just like a chill laid back people. We're

1:05:20

just like riding horses, climbing mountains,

1:05:23

like, That's their vibe. And she's just running

1:05:25

around. I hear

1:05:28

you. I hear from

1:05:29

Spain, but I don't know horse whipping

1:05:31

people or whatever.

1:05:33

To be continued, we're going to

1:05:36

end therefore this week,

1:05:38

next week, we'll have the three in conclusion

1:05:40

of the saga of the

1:05:42

Irish, English, raised in India, and

1:05:45

also in Scotland. Spiritually

1:05:48

Spanish, just this

1:05:50

hot mess.

1:05:52

That is and was. Lola Montes, including a

1:05:54

reveal of where her grave is. Spoiler,

1:05:56

I think, a lot of you

1:05:59

might live in the country where it is. So

1:06:01

stay tuned for that later. I was gonna be

1:06:03

back, of course,

1:06:06

because I can't not finish the story and have her there

1:06:08

talking about it. So

1:06:11

yeah.

1:06:14

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1:06:14

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1:06:19

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1:06:21

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1:06:23

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1:06:26

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