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Welcome to you. To
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this special feature of
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Manuel doors. 169
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this time, it is
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Welcome to Roman Emperor, sir Terence Rankium.
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I am Jamie. An ad rob, and this is episode
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one hundred and sixty nine, and
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it is, as you may have guessed by
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the introduction. Medwell
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doors. Medwell, the
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doors. You've
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been looking forward to this one, Jeremy. I
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really have. I really, really have. Are you
0:51
hoping that Manuel does is everything
0:53
that we we have built them up
0:55
to be I I'm not hoping
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I know I know he's everything. How
1:00
disappointed will you be if he's actually
1:02
a completely pathetic loser of an
1:04
emperor? Well, that's not gonna
1:06
happen, so I don't even think about it. Okay. That's
1:08
good. That's good to be fun. Right. I'm
1:10
gonna warn you. It's as I have
1:12
already warned you in previous episodes, gonna
1:14
be along today. It's our last nine episode
1:17
of the Roman Empire is Oh.
1:20
Yeah. So we should probably dive into
1:22
this. We start on the twenty seventh
1:25
of June in the thirteen
1:27
fifty. What a late sounding
1:29
date that is? Nice, like end almost
1:31
like end of summer. Can
1:32
I even know it's the beginning of summer? Yeah.
1:35
Yeah. That's nice nice summer days.
1:37
Than the mid-1300s. The
1:39
days were getting longer the night
1:41
shorter. The the black deaf was wafting
1:43
in the razors. It was what's
1:44
on my nose? Oh, what is
1:46
that smell? Well, Helena
1:49
and John five have just had their second
1:51
son and they have named him
1:54
Manuel Doss. Or he probably
1:56
named himself. Let's be honest. Yeah.
1:58
Oh, yeah. No. He said
1:59
it. He he named his parents as well.
2:02
That's how it works. Name is
2:05
Mendoitte. The name is Mendoitte,
2:08
pleased to meet you.
2:11
Instead. You may call me, sir.
2:14
Yeah. Anyway, let's just be
2:16
clear because it's it's been a little while
2:18
since we've got a less last episode. We'll make
2:20
sure you know what the family is
2:22
and how everyone relates to each other. We've
2:24
jumped around a bit. So remember, we had jump
2:26
five He's the emperor who we covered a
2:28
few episodes back. And then we
2:30
covered his first 169, and then his
2:32
grandson, that's Andrew. Yes. Or
2:35
worse than ever, and then John
2:37
seven. Yeah. Yeah.
2:39
So today, we're covering John five
2:42
169, so this is brother two
2:44
Andronica's four were
2:45
seven. Right? 169 uncle
2:48
two John that we covered last time.
2:50
Yeah. Yeah. Is that clear? Good. Okay.
2:52
So just like his brother, Andronikus Manuel
2:55
was born during the time of John five and
2:57
John six and Cazenos having their
2:59
civil war. Just like Androlika's
3:01
four, Manuel spent his first few years
3:03
moving about quite a bit. By the age
3:06
of three, he'd already lived in Digitown
3:08
and the island of Tenadusts.
3:10
And in Thessalonica briefly,
3:13
been mastered making red wine.
3:15
Yes. Every time he went
3:17
to, he mastered a new skill. He's --
3:19
Yeah. Red wine in Didi
3:21
town, rolling black cigarettes
3:23
on
3:24
Canada's. Yes. And
3:26
Tahitos in in Trinidad Tobago.
3:29
Yes. He has. He popped there as well. And then
3:31
when he was probably too young to understand
3:34
the politics, but
3:36
not too young to for his own cigarettes.
3:38
His father would have taken Constantinople
3:41
and become the emperor. His older
3:44
brother, Angelikus, was made co emperor
3:46
and as we've covered. So
3:48
his earliest memories probably would have
3:50
been of this. His brother being
3:52
air and his father becoming the emperor.
3:55
He would have been raised typical for royal prince
3:58
soon there were more princes, brothers
4:00
Michael and Theodore soon followed And
4:03
there were also
4:04
sisters, but as per usual, we
4:06
don't know how many there are, massaging of the Romans.
4:09
Yeah. But,
4:09
yeah, just know there's a couple of brothers around
4:12
Now we get our first concrete mentions of Manuel
4:14
when he's sixteen years old. No longer
4:16
a little boy. His father realizing that
4:18
he needed help against the Ottomans had decided
4:21
to take the unprecedented step of
4:23
traveling to the Catholic Kingdom
4:25
of Hungary and asking for aid.
4:27
The air andronicus was left behind
4:29
remember But going with that
4:32
was Manuel and Michael. As
4:34
mentioned before, we have no detail on this
4:36
meeting. But as we speculate John
4:39
five almost certainly agreed to become a Catholic
4:41
in this meeting and also steer
4:43
the entire empire towards the western
4:45
church. Yes. But what we do
4:47
know about the meeting for certain is that
4:49
when John left, he left his
4:52
son Manuel behind as a hostage.
4:56
Caught us hostage ever. Obviously, we've covered
4:58
this kind of thing before Manuel would have been treated
5:00
very well, guessed about that kind of hostage,
5:02
but he was definitely there just just to
5:04
make sure that the emperor didn't
5:06
do anything just to annoy the Hungarians.
5:09
So -- Yeah. -- Manuel, you you stay here. So
5:11
Manuel would have just been part of the Hungarian
5:13
court for a while. He would have heard
5:15
at some point that his father had been stopped
5:18
by the Bulgarians on the way home and
5:20
essentially taken prisoner 169 that
5:22
his elder brother was doing nothing to
5:24
help. He just sits there all
5:26
the time.
5:27
Yeah. Well, Manuel can't do anything. He's
5:29
guest of the Hungarians, so he just
5:31
has to says he would be rude to kill my hosts.
5:34
Yeah.
5:34
Exactly. So he's he's not gonna go on
5:36
quest for vengeance. I mean, it's in his heart.
5:38
Nice. But
5:39
Totalus there's lots of young
5:41
Hungarian maidens to
5:44
get to know, I'm sure. So
5:47
Yeah. Come on. Come on. So so
5:50
he stays in Hungary. Next
5:53
thing he would have heard is that Lord flash
5:55
out the green counter Armando of sausage
5:58
of Subbuoy had rescued his
6:00
father. What a title? Some
6:06
of those titles are historically
6:08
accurate. Yes.
6:11
So his father was rescued. Manuel,
6:14
being sixteen a hostage, like I say,
6:16
not involved, but he would have heard of
6:18
it. And at some point, he was released
6:20
from Hungary. We don't know how
6:22
or when this happens. He
6:25
just he just said, I'm going for
6:27
a work. Yeah. Probably. I
6:29
might see you soon. Yeah.
6:31
I've read off sunset gone.
6:33
Yeah. Which is weird because if you're riding
6:36
to Constantinople from Hungary, you'd
6:39
actually be going east. And
6:41
therefore, the sun shouldn't be setting. But
6:44
Manuel Aria, he doesn't doesn't
6:46
have to worry about that kind of thing. The sun sat
6:48
in the east dammit. Physics Shmimiks.
6:50
Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. So
6:52
anyway, within year, he is back
6:55
in Constantinople. We know that
6:57
he's back in Constantinople because we
6:59
know that he was part of that meeting when
7:02
the new Latin Patriarch Constantinople
7:05
met with the Maltjohn six
7:07
camped casinos to talk about the unification
7:09
of the church that we covered 169 previous
7:11
episodes. Yeah. We
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speculated that Andronikus, who
7:16
definitely was there, probably sat around
7:18
and didn't contribute I'm
7:21
guessing Manuel didn't contribute too much to this
7:23
meeting
7:23
either, but in a much cooler way.
7:26
Yeah.
7:27
Yeah. Fee on the table. Use a different
7:29
color ink. Yeah.
7:32
That was his guy. High tire of
7:34
blue. Yeah. Sorry he did.
7:37
So another year passes then his father
7:39
told Manuel that he's off to the west
7:42
to see the pope and get assistance against
7:44
the Ottilans. Andronikus
7:47
was left in charge of capital when he's gone.
7:50
Don't worry, Manuel, I've given him some strict
7:52
instructions. As for you,
7:55
you are going to become the
7:57
governor of our second city thessalonica.
8:00
Now at this point, I'm going to ask you,
8:03
do you still have the triangle of
8:05
vague geographic knowledge. Oh,
8:08
yes. Oh, two hand. Excellent.
8:10
Right. So just so you're
8:11
clear, Manuel is off to thessalonics.
8:14
That's found it. Yeah. Good. It's got
8:16
a zed next. We always have a zed next to That's because
8:18
the zed next to it. But they're gone now. You can cross
8:21
that zed off. Their Zedow. Their Zedow is now back
8:23
in Roman hands. See. So
8:25
Manuel goes off to thessalonica to rule
8:27
the second set of the empire we get nothing
8:29
on him about him going to his new
8:31
city. We do hear
8:34
from him about a year later, however, because
8:37
as we have covered John that went to Rome,
8:39
met the pope, converted catholicism, then
8:41
headed to Venice, and there he made
8:44
a deal, tally up the nations, you
8:46
give me back the crown jewels, some
8:48
ships and some men. I'll sell you the
8:50
Isle of Totalus 169 the
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Venetians went, yeah. Okay then. And
8:55
then John wrote to his son, Andronicus,
8:57
to arrange 169, refused
9:00
to remember. Mhmm. Yeah. Unlike Islands,
9:03
So John, the Emperor was trapped
9:05
in Venice, very embarrassing. We
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get few details, but it appears that Manuel,
9:10
who is twenty one by this point, by the way,
9:12
heard of his father's plight 169 his
9:14
brothers refusal to help 169 took
9:17
matters upon himself. He
9:19
set sail to Venice to pay for
9:21
his father's freedom. According to
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OneSource, his arrival I quote
9:25
here filled the parental eyes
9:28
with joy. Like Abel's
9:29
eyes.
9:29
Oh, look at, man, who's Manuel? He's
9:31
Manuel. Yeah. I like the legend
9:33
says. Yeah. I'd like think
9:35
that he wasn't asked to do this at all.
9:38
John was just in Venice sparing,
9:40
then a Jamaican massage just just
9:42
strums softly in the window
9:45
there's man well. Throws a purse
9:47
of gold, he does. Oh, but
9:49
the I have gone. So
9:52
Manuel, hands over cash. He
9:55
braised this cash in thessalonica through
9:58
taxes, which did not
10:00
necessarily go down too well with the people living
10:02
in the city. Remember, as you just
10:04
crossed out that zed thessalonica isn't the
10:06
most loyal of cities in
10:08
the Roman Empire? No. No.
10:10
So then paying their hard earned cash to
10:13
save an emperor that they were that keen on
10:16
weren't too happy about it. But still,
10:18
Manuel went to Venice, freed
10:20
his father by paying some of the money owed
10:22
back. Manuel himself, however,
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guess what he's got to do 169 jump five
10:27
leaves.
10:29
No. Same as before. He's got to stay
10:32
behind as a hostage. Oh. Oh.
10:34
Yeah. I will be
10:36
a hostage. No. No. No. It's perfectly
10:38
fine. No. No. I
10:40
will be a hostage. Either
10:43
that or people just keep asking him
10:45
to stay where he goes.
10:47
He was just so cool. Just
10:50
just stay a bit longer. Duty
10:52
calls ever
10:53
go. What if we said you were a
10:55
hostage? Now it's
10:57
not clear how long man was stayed in Venice,
10:59
but it wasn't long. Most likely
11:01
until he got bored. Yeah. Most
11:03
likely until John was able to get home and
11:06
send more of the cash that
11:08
he owed. Still, he was definitely no longer
11:10
than a year in Bellis, and soon enough he
11:12
was back in Thessalonica. 169 here,
11:14
we see one of the first cases of Manuela
11:17
hitting on his own. Because while he was
11:19
getting home, the Ottomans and the Serbians
11:21
had finished up a decisive war,
11:23
and the Ottomans had come out on top.
11:25
And Manuel 169 when Manuel got
11:27
back from the west, he saw how weak the
11:30
Serbians were and decided to take back
11:32
the city of Cerus from them. If
11:34
you remember it from back back in John
11:36
Canada's Gazette' episode, the
11:38
city was lost to the Serbians. So
11:40
-- Yeah. -- the Serbians were weak Manuel
11:43
was able to take the city back parleye. So
11:45
if you look at the giant goal, there
11:47
you go, but a thickness to Sarah's. It's
11:50
back in the empire. Where else
11:52
is it? It's sort of in in the middle to
11:54
the left of thessalonaka quite close to
11:56
it.
11:56
Oh, yeah. Found it. Found it. Yeah. There we go.
11:58
Yay. Ampont's grown again. Yeah.
12:01
So there you go. That's AAA city
12:03
close to thessalonica back
12:05
in the empire. Fantastic. His
12:08
father was very pleased publicly announced
12:10
that Manuel would rule over any land
12:12
reclaimed for the Roman empire. Now
12:14
remember back to his ANDROLICIS'
12:17
episode, this is when him and ANDROLICIS
12:19
are having a big falling out. However,
12:21
ANDROLICIS is an awful 169. So
12:23
Manuel's really on the rise here.
12:26
However, things start going downhill
12:28
because this is roughly the same time that John
12:30
five goes to the Sultan Morad
12:33
and accepted becoming a vast state.
12:37
Yeah. We do not have Manuel's reaction
12:39
to this, but we get the feeling it was not good
12:41
based on on things that he does
12:43
throughout his life, he got the feeling that he
12:45
was not happy with his father giving
12:48
him to the Ottomans, sir, I am merely
12:50
disappointed. Now making the period
12:52
even more politically confusing is the
12:54
fact that this is when his brother andronicus joined
12:57
forces with the son of Morad and they
12:59
revolted together. We
13:02
have less no detail on what Manuel
13:04
was doing at this time. But if
13:06
you remember, well, yeah, remember
13:08
the revolt failed and Andronikis 169 his
13:11
son John were blinded and thrown in
13:14
jail. Yes. I remember that. Yeah.
13:16
Again, we don't have my mask reaction, but
13:19
probably you get the feeling he didn't get on
13:21
with his brother. But I don't know. Would he have
13:23
liked the fatest brother was blinded? In the snuffier.
13:25
Mhmm. Who knows? An eye
13:28
for an
13:28
eye.
13:29
Does it make sense, Manuel? It
13:31
does. Think about it. It's
13:33
just an eye and an eye. But
13:36
his brother's in jail as
13:38
is his nephew, so a
13:40
new heir is needed. So in September
13:42
of thirteen seventy three, Manuel
13:45
becomes coemperor and heir
13:48
a ray. And then the next three years
13:50
pass in relative peace. Nice. Manwao
13:52
ruled the second city as air, but
13:55
it would appear he spent significant some time in the
13:57
capital as well. It's hard to pin down his movements
13:59
at this time. But then his brother
14:01
is broken out at prison by the genoese. As
14:04
covered, Andrulikus was able to take the
14:06
city with the help of the genoese and
14:08
the Ottomans because Murat's just having fun
14:10
playing. Everyone off each other.
14:13
I heard yeah. Manuel and
14:15
his father and also his younger brother
14:17
Theodore were captured and thrown
14:19
into the same prison that Andronika's four
14:21
had been in. Mhmm. According
14:24
to 169 source, Andronika's four ordered that
14:26
Manuela and his father be placed in wooden
14:28
cages. Within their mouths just
14:30
to make it even more uncomfortable. I think think
14:33
my 169 walked in and just saw a
14:35
burnt bed. Yes. This
14:38
is where we speculated that Manuel
14:40
just played cards with the the rat.
14:42
The rat. So he was probably just doing that.
14:44
But interestingly, We
14:46
do actually get some details from Manuel's
14:48
perspective. The reason why
14:50
this is a longer episode is because quite
14:53
a bit of Manuel's writings survive. He
14:56
made a few speeches in his life when
14:58
he was pleased with his speeches, he
15:01
wrote them down and he sent them to his friends
15:03
169 they survived. And in one
15:05
of his speeches, this is
15:08
much later in life at his brother's funeral.
15:11
He recounts the time that he and his brother
15:13
were thrown into jail. Together. So
15:15
we actually do get a bit of detail. So he
15:17
says that his cell was like a tomb
15:20
and that I quote darkness prevailed within.
15:22
So Not
15:24
a happy time. He wrote that at one point,
15:27
he had a wound on his head his
15:29
brother Theodore helped him cradle he
15:31
said. So we're guessing Manuel was beaten
15:33
or Balagaard somewhat. He also mentioned
15:36
a plot to free Theodore
15:38
that would have worked if his cowardly father
15:41
had not backed out, fearing for
15:43
his own life. Mhmm. Yeah.
15:46
Now, like I said, this all comes from a speech
15:48
much later on in life and
15:51
Manuel and his father had fallen out by
15:53
this point. So who knows how true this is,
15:55
but apparently there were several plots
15:57
to to break out to prison, and
15:59
his father was slowing them down. He went
16:01
on to describe the time I quote here,
16:03
as for everyone under such
16:05
circumstances, I should be doing it in
16:07
the man, wow. I was fairly shook my head. I
16:10
said, 169 under such circumstances, it
16:12
was necessary to turn to many activities
16:15
so I could sketch a little the
16:17
cloud of despair with some leisure
16:20
and not surrender completely to
16:22
the present 169 future evils.
16:25
No one could do that. So
16:27
at this time, it seemed good to
16:30
me to continuously occupy myself
16:32
with this activity. Spending
16:35
time with books day and nights, along
16:37
with performing my duty
16:39
to god. It was necessary to
16:41
use the latter whenever I turn to
16:44
such an occupation.
16:46
So he's reading a lot. Before he said
16:48
he's reading, it sounded like he's up to something else.
16:50
No. No. He's definitely reading. I'm sure that's
16:53
gonna use the phone to say, yes. He's definitely
16:55
reading
16:56
the hell out of his books. Oh, he's gotta use a lot
16:58
of Sometimes four or five times a day. It's
17:00
it's really dark. It's hard to see what's going on
17:02
in the
17:03
cell. It's cutting it's cutting it's a lamp.
17:05
Yeah. Oh, sorry. It's a bit more light
17:07
carrier. Since I was bereft
17:10
of an instructor, I could not
17:12
advance in many respects in proportion
17:14
to my great labors, yet
17:16
in the continuity of activity, an
17:19
utterly tyrannical love for locust
17:21
was imprinted into my soul, and
17:23
it prevailed over all things
17:26
as to make me not simply a
17:28
lover, but a craving 169
17:30
too. See,
17:33
Tonya has a reading book No. He's definitely not
17:35
reading books. He's
17:38
he's a he's a raving lover of something.
17:41
He's got a thirst. For for
17:43
knowledge. For for
17:45
theology. That's what it is. He's doing
17:47
a lot about theology. Really
17:49
shaken out theology. Yeah.
17:53
Yeah. So don't think manacles
17:56
chained to a wall. But do think
17:59
dark, damp conditions 169 they're
18:01
able to smuggle in books to them occasionally
18:03
to keep himself occupied. Unpleasant
18:05
but not three years of actual
18:07
torture. Is is what we're looking
18:09
at here. Just
18:10
an occasional beating kind of thing. Anyway,
18:13
all this is written after by Manuel
18:15
to make himself look good. Remember, he
18:17
wanted to make it seem like he got through tough
18:19
times by becoming more educated and
18:21
closer to guards. Who knows, maybe he did do
18:23
this while he wasn't present? We
18:26
we don't know. What we do know is three years
18:28
after being imprisoned, Manuel, his father
18:30
and younger brother escape. We
18:32
don't know for certain one source claims
18:34
that they were smuggled in a file
18:37
they're able to literally file away the
18:39
boughs and crawl out
18:41
classic, hope the file was in a cake.
18:44
169. OneSource
18:46
says that a man named Angelos, who
18:49
had a nickname the devil, lowered
18:52
them out of a window. Interesting. Yeah.
18:54
I I like the fact that someone
18:56
called Angelos has an nickname to the devil.
18:59
Let's combine the stories. Let's just say the devil
19:01
smuggled in a file. Together they
19:03
packed open a
19:04
window, and then they loads -- Yeah. --
19:06
load them out. Okay. I like to
19:08
think my wilders walked out the front door. It's like, I'm
19:11
leaving now.
19:12
Yeah. I've had my fill. He
19:14
just got to the end of the book. was really angry.
19:18
Bye bye. Goodbye.
19:20
Just close the book, places it gently
19:22
down on the table, my time here
19:24
is
19:24
done, and
19:25
he leaves. First lady
19:28
is like, are you gonna clean up all those tissues? They
19:33
are the leader of my love.
19:38
And then he just leaves. Frustratingly,
19:41
in the speech where Manuel has been
19:43
talking about this he says he
19:45
won't go into details of the escape
19:48
because everyone already is familiar with
19:50
the
19:50
story, which is very annoying.
19:52
Yeah. Yeah. Because we got it probably seven hundred
19:55
years ago, but -- Yeah. -- as much now.
19:57
Yeah. Exactly. So who knows? Anyway,
19:59
As covered, there was then a period of cold
20:01
civil war betweendialysis four
20:03
and John five, backed by the genoies
20:06
and the Ottomans. During this civil war,
20:08
Manuel is set to go and fight for
20:11
the Ottomans in Anatolia. Remember,
20:14
jump five is pretty much said, I'll be your
20:16
vassal, and Murad,
20:18
the sultans said, okay, then
20:20
send me one of your sons to fight for me.
20:22
Just make sure that you
20:24
soundboard. So again, which one
20:26
should I send?
20:30
Well, we've got Manuel Yet
20:32
again being a hostage that seems to be his
20:34
life. It's going from one place to another, just
20:36
being a hostage. This
20:38
time, however, not as a guest of Honor,
20:41
but as a
20:42
fighter. He's actually in part of
20:44
the Army fighting for the Ottomans
20:46
in Manitoba.
20:49
At this time, Moranbah is trying
20:51
to take over the rest of Anatolia, squash
20:53
down the over emperors that are in the
20:55
area. So,
20:57
yeah, he would have been involved in that that
21:00
fighting. The civil war ends
21:02
with the agreement that we've covered John five
21:04
would become an emperor again, angelica's four
21:07
would become the heir again. John
21:09
seven becomes the next
21:12
in line. Blother Theodore, by the way,
21:14
is going to be given Moria to rule.
21:16
That's the bottom of the triangle south of
21:18
Greece. As for Manuel, well,
21:20
He was in Anatolia when he heard the news,
21:23
and he returned to the capital, but
21:25
not for long. Manuel was not
21:27
happy by this point. He
21:29
felt like his father was being too weak
21:31
with the Ottomans. His brother was being
21:33
and nuisance kept trying to
21:35
revolt. They were both as bad as each other.
21:38
So Manuel decided he's just
21:41
going to go back to Thessalonaka. Didn't
21:44
ask 169. He just left. And
21:46
said, I'm going to boil off the salonika
21:49
body. So
21:51
that's what he did. Once there, he
21:53
started to run the city as his own
21:55
independent city. He did this
21:57
for several years. His brother
21:59
died in this period to make him the succession
22:02
unclear once more. He did listen
22:04
to his farmer, but then he just did his own thing
22:06
afterwards. And his own
22:08
thing was to defend the city
22:10
against any invaders. this included
22:13
the Ottomans. And he was very loud
22:15
when he was starting to say things like this.
22:19
So there's his father saying
22:21
to Mulat, don't worry, we're
22:24
your vassal state, but his own
22:26
son is in the second city
22:28
of the Empire, loudly saying the Ottomans
22:30
are here illegally we need to fight
22:32
them. Through Flamenco dances? Yes.
22:35
Right. As you can imagine, this greatly annoys
22:38
Morat. He saw this as a betrayal of the
22:40
vessel ship. The Sultan
22:42
ordered jump five to reign his son-in.
22:45
Jump five said to Manuel
22:48
stop. Stop what you're doing with
22:50
vassals. Manuel returns
22:52
around and says, no. So John
22:56
five says, find you traitor
22:59
them. You are no longer part of
23:01
my family. You are a traitor to
23:03
the Roman Empire.
23:04
Step down. Let's just step down
23:07
I want to step down. Yes. That's
23:09
exactly what Manuel says. So
23:11
Manuel and John five fall out.
23:13
By this time, Morad has ordered
23:15
for Thessalonica to be taken. Just
23:17
just take it into the Ottoman Empire
23:19
completely. However, slight
23:22
problem with this. Thessalonica was
23:24
very difficult to take. There's
23:26
a reason why it's one of the last cities
23:28
in the Roman empire. It's bloody hard
23:30
to take. The gentleman in charge of
23:32
taking Thessalonica wasn't able to take the
23:34
city, but he did take Sayers, which
23:37
was nearby, just to show Manuel.
23:39
So if you look back on your triangle and
23:42
you pull a tip next to it
23:43
earlier, cross that out. So this has
23:45
gone again. Second
23:47
time out to do this.
23:48
Yeah. We got Sara,
23:51
Sharon over the wall. Yeah. Sonica. Just
23:53
listening to the lovely Florento music. Just
23:56
a solitary tear goes
23:58
down. Man who else cheaper
24:00
would be avenged.
24:01
Yeah. And then he he burns
24:03
a map of Cerus 169 then just sort
24:05
of floats the ashes
24:07
into the breathes he plays. Yeah.
24:11
Anyway, word was then sent into
24:14
the city. The word was surrender.
24:16
Look, what happened to Sayers. Didn't just
24:19
take the city, we destroyed it,
24:21
and we have sold most citizens into
24:23
slavery. So you need to
24:25
surrender. We're coming into thessalonica.
24:28
Those of you who we don't kill, we
24:30
will sell into slavery. It will be
24:32
a massacre. Or
24:34
you can surrender and everyone can
24:36
carry on with their lives. So
24:39
Manwai looked at this offer and
24:41
scuffed. How
24:44
little did they know the spirit of the people
24:46
of Thessalonica, he said. We
24:48
would rather be slaves to live
24:50
under the rule of the enemy. He
24:53
said. Right?
24:56
He said, looking around. What
25:00
is everyone? Yeah.
25:03
There there were some people left listening to
25:05
him, but they were shuffling around looking awkward
25:07
for quite meeting his eye. Yeah.
25:11
Unfortunately, despite apparently being a fairly popular
25:13
roller, Manuel was kind of losing support here,
25:16
the options seemed quite clear in the city
25:18
as that we are gonna
25:19
lose. We can either give up and live
25:21
or we can put up a dramatic class
25:24
stand. And
25:27
he's just poor, you know, Tony. He's just
25:30
first farm. He's spent he'd been building
25:32
it money for years and years by his very first farm.
25:35
Kerosence on to Sprout. Potato is
25:37
around the go ready for winter season. He's
25:39
like, I
25:41
I spent my life saving the list. Yeah.
25:43
Come on, man. Well, I I love
25:45
my I love my crop. Don't be
25:47
forgiven of my crop. Manuel, please.
25:50
Manuel puts his hand
25:52
on Tony's shoulder, but we will fight.
25:54
No.
25:56
No. My
25:59
carrots. Yeah. Manuel realizes
26:01
that he's gonna need some help.
26:03
Before his own people turned against him.
26:06
So -- Yeah. -- he writes
26:08
to various western leaders but
26:11
little or no replies come. For
26:13
four years, Manuel struggles
26:15
against the siege from the Ottomans. While
26:17
his own father is declaring him as
26:20
a traitor and a usurper. Eventually,
26:23
it becomes clear to Manuel, he's
26:25
not going to win this. The city
26:27
has lost its desire to fight. They were
26:29
going to lose. It will be better
26:31
around less surrender rather than tie fighting.
26:34
So In April thirteen eighty
26:36
five, age thirty seven, he
26:39
secretly sails away from the city,
26:41
accepting that he has lost. Using
26:44
his FOMECO guitar as an
26:46
or, just splashing through
26:48
the waves. Yeah.
26:53
So where's it gonna go? Is that
26:56
the island? That's that's Santa Cruz.
26:58
No. Thumbbeggett? Ten ten
27:00
of us? That's the one. Telados.
27:03
Well, actually, he didn't quite get the island
27:05
right, but yes, the first thing he does do is go to a Greek
27:07
island, Les Boston, in fact, and
27:09
he stays there for a while. This name,
27:11
this island does live up to his name. Yeah.
27:15
He he doesn't last their long. He realizes
27:17
he is going to be an
27:19
outlaw for the rest of his life unless
27:22
he can get something settled. And
27:24
as we had seen before, with his
27:26
father and his brother, there's only
27:28
one person of power in the area.
27:31
Unless you get this person's forgiveness, you're
27:34
not gonna last long. So,
27:36
man, well, for menco Patel in
27:38
hand goes to the Sultan
27:41
to ask for forgiveness. Ola,
27:44
I'm here to accept your forgiveness. Well,
27:51
interestingly, Murad received Manuel as
27:53
guest and actually forgave him.
27:55
And then sent him back to Constantinople,
27:57
Totalus John five, Forgive
28:00
you, son. I know I've been telling you to denounce
28:02
him for the last four or five years, but
28:04
now I'm telling you forgive him. So do that.
28:07
Which might actually tell us why Mora
28:10
did this just to keep stirring up the
28:12
Roman pot. Yeah. Yeah.
28:14
So Manuel is back in Constantinople, Farronson,
28:18
are together. A couple of
28:20
years passed, and the two seem to make up
28:22
somewhat. then we hit
28:24
what we cooked last time, which is John's episode.
28:27
Morette dies remember, and his son,
28:29
Bayazit, becomes the Ottoman Sultan.
28:32
Yes. Remember that? Yes. Bayezed
28:35
looks at Young John seven 169 decides,
28:38
yeah, actually, let's keep stowing the Roman pot.
28:40
Throw us some weight behind him and let him have
28:42
a go at
28:42
Cooling. This
28:44
is great to watch. So
28:47
in April of in ninety, John
28:49
enters the city after someone opened
28:51
the gates and the emperor John five
28:53
locked himself up in a tower in the city walls.
28:55
Manuel, however, didn't do this.
28:58
He was in the city at the time. But instead
29:00
of locking himself up, he flees. He's
29:02
back in his little boat paddling with his guitar
29:04
again.
29:06
Oh, yeah. think I forgot to know the Lesbos.
29:08
I don't think I checked that one. Well,
29:10
he believes he doesn't just flee, but in his boat,
29:13
it's all his valuables. Flees with
29:15
all all he has that he can
29:17
carry with him. Now, Manuel
29:19
is on shaky terms with his father. Nonetheless,
29:22
he is not about to give the Empire up
29:24
to this upstart as Nephew John
29:26
seven. So 169 he gets to
29:28
some of the Greek islands, he sells all
29:30
his belongings. He raises as much
29:32
money as he can, and then he goes
29:34
to Rhodes. Living on Rhodes at
29:36
the moment were the Knight's Hospitaler, essentially
29:39
military religious order. Very
29:42
similar to the knights templar, where
29:44
we're in this region of of history,
29:46
where you just got military groups
29:49
that are from orders from God,
29:51
of course. Therefore, they could
29:54
go around doing whatever they wanted.
29:56
Essentially, a personal unit, but pokes
29:59
on-site.
30:00
wonder if there's some interesting things with the etymology
30:02
of that, like, with the hostesses. Yes. Yes.
30:05
It is that it is all linked as far as on the web.
30:07
Friends. Yes. Anyway,
30:11
they they're willing to do fighting for cash
30:13
is all that Manuel cares
30:15
about. So he hands over the cash
30:17
-- Yeah. -- and the knights hand over their fighting.
30:19
Just just a bag of swords. Yes.
30:22
This is what I meant. Well,
30:24
using the order, Manuel was able to enter
30:26
the city after a couple of attempts over
30:29
four months. They don't get in the first
30:31
attempt, but they it doesn't take long.
30:34
His nephew was deformed 169
30:36
his father was back in church. That
30:38
was the glorious reign of John seven.
30:41
See. Manuel was praised by his father,
30:43
but Besid was not happy at all. His plan
30:45
had failed. And he wrote to John,
30:48
send Manuel to me. I
30:50
want him in my court. So
30:52
off Manuel goes, off to be a hostage
30:54
once more. Now from
30:56
what historians can gather, Manuel and
30:58
Besid did not get on at all.
31:01
Get the feeling that Manuela Moretz, bears
31:03
its father, kinda got on well enough.
31:06
Yeah. This is a completely different
31:09
Basic would He always saw you as
31:11
the sun. Well, yeah. Just
31:13
so cool. Basic would have been around
31:15
when Manuel was there before. Remember?
31:17
When basic was just some of the saw terms.
31:20
So, yeah, maybe there was
31:22
a dislike from that period of time.
31:24
Not only do Manuel and bears it not
31:26
get on, but John seven also
31:29
turns up
31:29
soon. Well, are they all being put in the same
31:31
cell? It's just wide open or something.
31:35
A few bricks to say pull here for
31:36
escape. That kind of thing. John No
31:39
data decisions. Ever
31:40
put in jail to begin with when Manuel
31:42
the city jumbles flat. Okay.
31:47
Probably through the cell. That's how
31:49
open it is. It's
31:52
more of a walkway. What
31:56
a lean to at this side of business.
31:59
So, yeah, Uncle and Nephew are forced
32:01
to fight for the Sultan in
32:03
the Sultan's court whilst John five
32:05
gets on with ruling the Empire
32:08
Both take part in the siege of Philadelphia.
32:11
Philadelphia is one of the very few
32:13
Greek cities left in Anatolia. No
32:16
longer part of the empire, but it's it's
32:18
not been taken by any of
32:20
the emperors yet.
32:23
But you've got two
32:25
heirs of the Roman throne attacking
32:27
a Greek city for the
32:29
Ottomans, to which the Ottomans
32:31
find hilarious. Yeah.
32:34
Yeah. People Philadelphia less so.
32:36
Phase it was able to use Manuel, being
32:38
with him to his advantage also, when
32:41
he learned that John five was
32:43
starting to strengthen the walls of Constantinople.
32:46
He wrote to John saying stop, strengthening
32:49
your walls, or I will take
32:51
the eyes of Manuel. 169
32:54
as we saw at the end of John's episode,
32:56
this was too much for John. He retreated.
32:58
He fell ill. And he died.
33:01
So there we go after several episodes we
33:03
finally got to the point in the narrative
33:05
where we are moving forward into the unknown.
33:08
New material. Oh my goodness. New material. Yes.
33:11
Like being at sea. Yes. It is.
33:13
Say, let's do this. Bayes it.
33:16
Had the two claimants for the throne
33:18
in his
33:18
power. I mean, they're both
33:19
with him. He's got Manuel and he's got John.
33:21
He would be able to make them play off each other
33:24
as to who was allowed to go back and be the next Roman
33:26
emperor. Now, I've read two
33:28
different versions on what happens next,
33:30
so you can choose which one. This is
33:32
like those books we get to choose the next beach
33:34
web snacks. Cool. Either Manuel
33:37
received word of his father's death. And
33:40
escaped, rushed to the capital
33:42
169 claimed his throne. Or
33:45
Behzad decided that Manuel
33:47
could be the emperor, gave him a ship allowed him
33:50
to go. Or three, Manuel
33:52
just said, I'm importer, I'm
33:54
off. Okay?
33:56
Yeah. Actually, that kind of covers
33:58
both, doesn't it? Because -- Yeah.
33:59
-- that's that's still his agency him leaving.
34:01
And I'm guessing bears that told himself that
34:03
he chose Manuel, Like, after
34:05
Manuel left the room and the the
34:08
glamour had lifted slightly. And
34:10
he was just being slightly confused of what had just
34:12
happened in the last five minutes. But
34:16
this Manuel came in and started speaking
34:18
and he strung down the tower Yes.
34:21
I just don't remember Eddie for the rest of the conversation,
34:23
but apparently he's left. Now and now he's the emperor.
34:26
Could I agree to this? I must
34:28
have done. Yes. It was me. Yes. Because it was
34:30
me. I'm the sultan. Yes. I
34:33
decided. So, yeah, that's what happened. I
34:35
basically decided. So
34:38
in March of thirteen ninety one
34:40
at the age of forty one, Manuel
34:42
Two, Doss, becomes
34:44
the emperor. Bezerd immediately decided
34:47
to ensure that the new emperor knew who was boss.
34:50
So he straightaway ordered that the
34:52
annual tribute go up. Seventy
34:54
seven, like, well, what a welcome package. There's
34:57
a little hamper. Well, a little
34:59
hamper with just a note saying you owe
35:01
me in it. Yeah.
35:04
Pay up more money. Oh, and also,
35:06
There was something else in the hamper. It was
35:08
a man. Yeah. Yeah. This
35:11
is a new adviser in your court. He's
35:13
there just to make sure that the Muslim
35:15
citizens in your city are treated well,
35:17
that's all. But he will be attending
35:19
all meetings. Ignore
35:21
the clipboard. On the next
35:23
phone. Yeah. Just
35:26
just a little bit. It's fine. Yeah.
35:29
Stop asking questions. It's fine.
35:31
Oh and I'll quote her. If
35:33
you do not accept my orders and
35:35
do as I command, then shut the
35:37
gates of your city and govern what lies
35:40
behind them for everything beyond
35:42
the gates belong to me.
35:44
Oh, so threatening.
35:50
Well, three months later, Bayez had then
35:52
summons Manuel to him. Again,
35:54
showing Manuel, who's boss, you've gotta
35:56
come to me. So
35:58
Manuel has no choice here. He's he's left
36:01
in this situation that his father was
36:02
in.
36:03
So he's heading this way already is fine.
36:07
Well, he left his mother Helena as regent
36:09
he sets out. And again, Manuel
36:11
was forced to fight for the Sultan. Alongside
36:14
his hated nephew for another six
36:16
months. Wow. So this
36:19
is not not just the heir,
36:21
this is the actual Roman emperor.
36:23
Just fighting for someone else for
36:25
six months instead of governing. I
36:27
mean, can we at least admit now that the
36:30
the air is kind of over No.
36:32
No. It's still going, Jamie. Still
36:34
got two and a half episodes left.
36:37
It's not really though. Well,
36:39
maybe it picks
36:40
up. Maybe golden age is around the corner to help me.
36:43
Alright. Okay. This morning, you know, I classroom, there's
36:45
a spider that got put in that sink
36:47
all night. Yep. One leg was missing.
36:50
It was barely alive. Yep.
36:52
My TA decides for the tap on. I
36:55
thought very sad, but got flushed down the
36:57
sink 169 it just wouldn't go down.
36:59
Just little little tiny legs hanging on.
37:01
We all knew that spider was dead, but his
37:04
legs were just clinging onto the
37:06
the holes in the tap hole thing.
37:09
And it just wouldn't just admit
37:11
that it's gone there's no
37:13
more. That is where we are.
37:17
Maybe. But maybe that spider
37:20
crawled out as soon as you stop blocking. And
37:22
right now, It's nesting
37:24
in my own. It's taking
37:26
over your classroom. Invaded
37:29
three of the classrooms. Yeah. Maybe maybe
37:32
it's all about Suriname, Jeremy. Who knows?
37:34
Because after six months, Manuel
37:37
goes back to the capital 169 Now
37:39
he can start RawLink. Bay
37:41
zed thrown his weight about showing him
37:43
who's boss, but right here we go.
37:45
Let's settle down to doing some
37:47
RawLink. So first things first,
37:50
what does he need to do? Succession. He
37:52
needs to make sure he has an heir because all
37:55
the business that's been going on lately
37:57
with his father and John's
37:59
six came to the scene, Austin. All the fallout
38:01
of that was a mess. So let's let's
38:03
have a clear succession, shall we? So
38:06
he found a Serbian princess 169
38:08
he married her. You
38:10
do. Yeah. Well, The
38:14
father of this princess, so his new
38:16
father-in-law, was also a vassal
38:18
to the Ottomans. So, obviously,
38:21
this had approval from Bezerd.
38:23
Her her name was Helena, just like his
38:25
mother's. How nice? So her
38:27
and Manuel were formally crowned in the heart
38:30
of Sofia to great fanfare. Apparently,
38:32
huge big ceremony. The the kind of ceremony
38:34
that perhaps maybe was
38:37
bit too much considering
38:39
how far the Empire is for them. But still,
38:42
tradition is competition, isn't it? So Was
38:44
it the Ghana ceremony where it's just like a
38:46
few balloons that are off? They just gotta go.
38:49
We Mister Skye.
38:51
No. No. It was full on. You've really
38:53
fancy ceremony. It shouldn't be
38:55
ceremony like that because
38:57
Budget party poppers No. No.
38:59
It was it was a lot of money spent
39:01
on it. Okay. You got the deposit process
39:03
then. Yeah. Yeah. The go were
39:05
all dressed up in their best
39:07
finery. Yeah.
39:10
It's it's very good. We have a first
39:12
hand account for a a Russian who was passing
39:15
through. And he was very impressed with
39:17
all. Mhmm. Yeah. Anyway,
39:20
during this time, I I like literally
39:22
drawing the wedding, but roughly around the
39:24
same period. Of time, the Bulgarians attempted
39:27
to fight back against the Ottomans. Like
39:29
169 in the Balkan area, they
39:31
were worried about the
39:33
Ottomans to say the least, and they
39:35
were attempting to rebel. Did not go
39:38
down well for them. The Bulgarians were
39:40
pretty much destroyed and absorbed
39:43
into the Ottoman Empire, not as a vassal
39:45
state, but as subjects. This
39:48
is, yeah, what everyone is faring.
39:50
Bezer himself was furious that
39:52
the Bulgarians dared to challenge him.
39:55
Manuel knew that he was not going to be
39:57
happy so was not loving the
39:59
fact that he had just been invited to
40:02
Sayers to meet the Sultan
40:04
personally. Just gets an invite
40:06
out the blue. Come to Cerus
40:08
now. And this is
40:10
just after the Bulgarians have been defeated.
40:13
Yeah. Well, he
40:15
can't ignore the summons, so Manuel
40:18
sets off. When he arrives, he
40:20
was quite shocked because guess who's
40:22
there? First
40:24
of all, his brother Theodore,
40:27
who's ruling Morio at the time, so
40:29
the only other Empire. So
40:31
his brother's there. Yeah.
40:34
Not only that, his
40:35
nephew, John Seven, is there. Oh,
40:38
not you. I mean, oh, not you again.
40:41
Yeah. He's just gonna call his accents the
40:43
thing.
40:44
Also, two Serbian rulers, one
40:46
of whom was his father-in-law.
40:48
Essentially, it was all the leaders of
40:51
the Balkan peninsula who were
40:53
not actually in the Ottoman Empire,
40:56
but were all vassals. All
40:58
in one place, and they all knew
41:00
that Bezid was not
41:02
happy. So what do you think is gonna happen?
41:04
Well, maybe an ultimatum, maybe
41:07
a kind of you'll be Vasily for
41:09
me, all of you. Or
41:11
Yeah. I think ultimatum was
41:14
a best case scenario on
41:16
on their heads. They they
41:18
were they were very nervous. Still,
41:20
hopefully, they'd find out what was going on in the
41:22
morning they thought. So
41:26
If you just drink your drinks, it's
41:28
certainly wonderful. Well, they all go
41:30
to bed. Manuel himself writes
41:33
what the plan was. According to him,
41:35
the Sultan, once everyone had gone to bed,
41:37
ordered a general, murder all
41:40
of them in their sleep. However,
41:42
for unknown reasons, the general disobeyed
41:45
the order, and now our quote man
41:47
well, the sultan, far from
41:49
publishing obedience, thanked
41:51
his servant for delaying the execution
41:53
of his command. Apparently,
41:56
bezid was by this time quite flighty
41:58
in his his opinions and his commands.
42:01
Just what you want in a leader. Yeah.
42:03
Exactly. Apparently, he ordered them all.
42:05
No. No. No. No. Yeah. Pretty much. That's
42:07
that's what happens. He realized
42:09
that he realized that murdering
42:11
the royal families of all his vassal
42:14
states in the Balkans in one
42:16
go might cause more harm
42:18
than goods maybe might
42:20
lead to uprisings and such. According
42:23
to Manuel, bezid however, was still
42:25
angry and wanted someone to point
42:28
his his frustration 169, and I'll quote
42:30
Manuel again here, he vented his
42:32
rage on some of that officers,
42:34
putting out their eyes 169 cutting
42:37
off their hands.
42:39
If you're happy, I can always
42:41
clap your hands. Squout.
42:43
Squout. Yeah.
42:47
Basic then apparently attempted to
42:49
present Manuel with
42:50
gifts. Guess of what.
42:52
Guess of what? Well, hands. Here's
42:55
a bag of hands.
42:56
Here's a jar of eyes and
42:58
joy. I bet it was a bag of hands.
43:03
Yeah. I I'll just quote Manuel here as
43:05
one tries to come a child with
43:07
sweets after 169 has beaten
43:10
it. Yeah.
43:12
You really get the impression that Bay is its
43:15
cocking with one log fewer
43:17
than a campfire.
43:19
Yeah. As as they say. Maybe
43:21
it's like Queenie from
43:23
Black Hatter. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely seems
43:25
a little bit a little bit like that. Anyway,
43:28
who's Hilton? Well,
43:30
they they were allowed to leave at this point
43:32
and then well gets the hell
43:35
out of there.
43:36
Yes. Thank you, Zoltan.
43:38
Thank you as well as get the hell out of it quickly
43:40
quickly. Thank
43:41
you. Yes. I gotta keep waiving. Yes.
43:43
Yes. Faster you.
43:45
He starts playing this for Mako guitar in that
43:47
really fast time instead of it.
43:52
Yeah. He gets back to the capital. Glad
43:54
to be away with his life. The this
43:57
this trip changed things for Manuel.
43:59
This was when he really decided he
44:02
needs to be his own ruler. He can't carry
44:04
on with the policies of his father. Bayes
44:07
it would be the end of him unless he does something.
44:09
And Sherwinov shortly after this, Manuel gets
44:11
another summons from the Sultan. Not
44:14
sure how long afterwards. I'd like to think five
44:16
minutes after he got back to the capital. Have
44:18
he just just written in his diary, full stop,
44:21
new letter? Oh, no. Yeah.
44:24
This time however, Manuel ignores
44:26
it. No.
44:29
I will not come. Bezed was furious.
44:32
How how dare you not come to my summons or
44:34
my vassal? So he sent
44:36
an army to burn down the populated
44:38
area outside the Constantinople City
44:40
walls 169 then blockade the capital.
44:43
You can see, not happy. Now
44:45
not not full on siege. This
44:47
isn't like siege warfare trying to get into
44:49
the
44:49
city, but this was economic blockading.
44:53
Yes. Very different. Different,
44:56
but also devastating. This was an
44:58
awful time to be in the capital. Houses
45:00
had to be torn down for fireworks. Food
45:03
was very scarce and unreliable because
45:05
the city had to rely on donations from the
45:07
west. The Ottomans were
45:09
able to completely blockade the city by
45:11
land. But as we've seen many times, it's very
45:13
hard to blockade Constance and Noble by
45:15
sea. Two years go by
45:18
like this. Wow. As the
45:20
city slowly starts to death.
45:22
The only thing going for them
45:24
is the aid. And where is the edge coming from?
45:26
Well, With the great city of
45:29
Constantinople looking like it was about to
45:31
fall, the kingdoms of the west were
45:33
finally starting to think about how pink
45:35
169 how best to help they thought. How
45:38
about one of those crusades? Bring
45:41
god into the
45:42
area. They they always go so
45:44
well.
45:44
Yeah.
45:45
What could it say do we on
45:46
now? It's so fast. It's like, oh, we stopped
45:48
numbering them, but it just got depressing. I
45:51
Rankium of numbers. Yeah. We're
45:53
just we're just in the kind of the later also
45:56
ran crusade section on Wikipedia. So
45:58
that's a it's had good thing. Probably
46:01
Totalus let's
46:03
do one of those anyway, shall we? He said.
46:06
Yeah. The main organizer was the
46:08
king of Hungary who knew that he'd be
46:10
next in line to be attacked.
46:13
By the Ottomans. So
46:16
the king of Hungary wrote to both
46:18
popes, only phase nine and
46:20
Benedict thirteen, That
46:22
that's why there were two popes at this point. I'm not
46:24
gonna go into why. Pontofax can do that.
46:27
Me. Yeah. Anyway, France
46:29
and the holy Roman Empire
46:31
provided troops, the Venetians
46:34
provided ships, the Genoese, and
46:36
various Greek island states stated
46:38
they would protect the Black Sea and the hellespont
46:41
kingdoms. In Italy, Spain,
46:43
England, Poland also provided troops.
46:46
This
46:46
was. Wow. This was a big
46:48
scale. This was I guess even
46:51
there at this point, looking at the ottomans going, actually.
46:53
Yeah. Yeah. This is their way to the
46:55
beginning. It's been a long time coming.
46:58
Eventually, around one hundred thousand
47:01
men were gathered. Now --
47:03
Wow. -- maybe numbers are always
47:05
obviously disputed. This one is
47:07
hugely contested, but it's
47:09
a big, big crusade, crusade
47:13
in
47:13
force. Larger than we have seen in
47:15
a very, very, very long time. This
47:17
this is so annoyed though, right, if you were an
47:20
English soldier. then
47:22
you're joining up with the Venetian soldiers
47:24
like, I've been walking for months,
47:26
which is like, I'm spying. It's fine. That's
47:28
fine. We've got our ships.
47:30
Yes. Yeah.
47:31
I don't know. The weather's nicer. That's
47:33
true. Yeah. We've been walking for months, eating like
47:36
stale bread. Yeah. But go for France, stale
47:38
breads, and wine and good cheese.
47:40
That's actually a really good point. Yeah. Exactly.
47:42
So that's fine. Anyway, crusade.
47:44
Last stand. A huge gathering,
47:47
not seen in a very long time rivals coming
47:49
together. You got the Venetians and the gen o e is
47:51
working together and everything. Yeah. This
47:53
was everything that Manuel could have hoped for.
47:55
Word got into the city help us on
47:57
the way the Ottomans will finally be destroyed. So
48:00
the combined forces of the west traveled
48:02
down the Danube. The Bulgarians quickly
48:05
revolted and joined them because remember
48:07
the Bulgaria had been taken over
48:09
recently, so that's even more
48:10
forces. And it was at the fortified
48:13
city of Totalus. That Behzid
48:15
met up with
48:16
them, and the battle of Nicholas
48:19
took place. It feels it
48:21
feels like there that that matrix fight
48:23
in the last film, but it's all raining, and it's
48:25
all full of agent
48:27
Smiths. I don't know why in picture in that.
48:29
Let's say yes. That's exactly what it was
48:31
like. As is often
48:33
case with the Crusades, the Crusading forces
48:35
were inherently weak because there was
48:37
not a clear chain of command. The French
48:40
forces disagreed with the Hungarian ones.
48:42
The king of Hungary wanted to be cautious. The
48:45
French wanted glory and
48:47
decisiveness. So the French
48:49
attacked early and the Ottomans suddenly
48:52
crushed them. And then the rest of the
48:54
Crusaders saw just how badly the
48:56
French had just been destroyed demoralized
48:58
they attempt to attack, but the tide
49:01
of the battle is on bears its side by this
49:03
point, and the Ottomans win a decisive
49:05
victory. Oh. Says
49:10
Manuel, in Constantinople. Yeah.
49:12
The first he hears of this was when the
49:14
king of hungry turns up, begging.
49:18
Yeah. Pretty much turns up. Yeah.
49:21
Ave's shows how little the Ottomans
49:23
were able to blockade the sea because the king
49:25
of whom we was able to just pop to the capital,
49:27
deliver the bad news, to Manuel. Sorry,
49:30
try my best. We're
49:32
destroyed. So Hold
49:34
dear. And then the king of Hungary
49:36
gets back on his ship. The Ottomans By
49:39
this point, had lined up all the prisoners
49:41
that they'd captured in the Totalus,
49:43
so the king of whom we could see them as
49:45
he sat past. Yeah.
49:48
Wave. Wave's your king.
49:52
Yep. So it's not coming,
49:54
and that is how the last
49:56
grand crusade went. There's really isn't
49:58
any crusades after this, which just
50:01
just doesn't happen anymore. So
50:04
there you go. Blended. Mhmm. I
50:07
mean, it wasn't a complete waste of time
50:09
in terms of for the empire. It
50:11
did help manmiles slightly with Bayezed off
50:14
fighting elsewhere. The blockade had mostly
50:16
been lifted, so there was
50:18
a period where they
50:20
managed to get more supplies into the capital,
50:23
which is just as well. Because once
50:25
Besit had won, The blockade was back
50:27
on in earnest. In fact, so much so
50:30
it stopped being a blockade it became
50:32
a foregone siege. Yeah. Yeah.
50:35
Bezos really wants the city
50:37
now. He's annoyed. He's gonna take it
50:40
by force or he's gonna use
50:42
John seven, which we touched
50:44
upon in his episode. Now remember
50:46
John's nearby. He's not in the capital.
50:49
He's in a town nearby, and Beyze
50:51
had says John, you say your
50:53
emperor 169 if you're put on the throne,
50:55
I'll go away pinky promise. So
50:58
John loudly starts saying how he should be
51:00
emperor. And if I'm emperor,
51:02
Besid would lead the city. The
51:04
siege would be lifted, and this was
51:06
very tempting to many in the capital people
51:08
are starved to death. This has been going on for years
51:10
now. Life is
51:13
tough. And what all we
51:15
need is a different guy in charge
51:17
or who cares which Peony Lagos is
51:19
pretend emperor to the man
51:21
who's actually in charge. Yeah.
51:23
Fine swap then we could eat. So
51:26
Manuel found himself yet again in a
51:28
besieged city turning against him.
51:30
Well, it's hard to be positive when you're besieged. Yeah.
51:33
Exactly. But he was
51:35
able to hold out three years into
51:37
the siege. Nothing had changed. Manuel
51:40
started to write to the kings of the west once
51:42
more asking for help. know last time it didn't
51:44
go too well, but seriously, I need help.
51:46
The Venetians kept tanning man well. Yes,
51:48
of course, we'll send out soon. Soon
51:51
as someone else joins us. We don't do it
51:53
on our own. But anyway, it's definitely coming soon.
51:56
The pope was keen to let him know that
51:59
His thoughts and prayers were with
52:00
him, so that was a good
52:01
piece. Thank goodness. King Richard
52:03
II of England, you seem like
52:05
a nice chap because he promised three
52:07
thousand pounds. Yeah.
52:11
Not bad. A lot of money about that. Excellent
52:13
thought, man, well. There's a King
52:15
King Richard the second of what's his place,
52:17
England. Okay. That's
52:20
nice of him. I look forward to that arriving.
52:24
What's this what's this letter?
52:26
Oh oh, King Charles is six of France.
52:28
Oh, even better. He's gonna send some men,
52:30
not just some cash. So there
52:33
we go. He's got some some
52:35
possible things coming through.
52:37
Yeah. Actually, only one
52:39
of them get through. To
52:41
be fair, maybe the thoughts and prayers from the pope
52:43
got through as well, but they didn't do anything.
52:46
It was the last one that came to pass
52:48
because five years into the siege,
52:51
a small force of one thousand two hundred
52:53
French knights, broke through
52:55
the Ottomans 169 entered the city, and
52:57
they were led by a man called
52:59
marshal Bussicot. Bussicot. Very,
53:03
very cool French man. He
53:05
broke through the siege and entered the city. I
53:08
was rubbish. I mean, he wasn't
53:10
much, but it was something Busakur
53:13
met with Manuel in one of the coolest meetings
53:15
ever. And now we are siege with
53:17
you as well. A very cool meeting. Well,
53:19
they talk to each other and call accents for a
53:21
while. Anyway, Boussek was
53:23
a a professional military man, unlike
53:25
Manuel. And he went and had a lock
53:28
around with his military
53:30
I. Just keyboard. Yeah.
53:32
I want it on that. Oh. Just just to get a
53:34
sense of how things are going. He realized
53:37
two things fairly quickly. Number
53:39
one, the city was Number
53:45
two, they needed support. These
53:47
were his military opinions. Excellent.
53:50
That's good. Which are actually kind of tied with what
53:52
Manuel had been thinking for quite some
53:53
time.
53:54
That's good. Reassuring. Yeah.
53:56
So the saying is my previous
53:58
assessment was right.
54:01
We miss you. It's mouth.
54:06
Yeah. So Brusica told
54:08
Manuel that what you need to
54:11
do is you need to personally go
54:13
west and ask for help. Like
54:15
your father did. Sending the letters isn't
54:17
working. You got a striking bearing.
54:19
You come across like a decent guy,
54:22
Manuel. And it's hard to put a finger on it.
54:24
You just call. So if you go
54:26
personally, I think you'll be able to get
54:28
more success than these letters. I
54:30
agree. Manuel, agreed with
54:32
this, but that's a problem. Yeah.
54:35
I agree. I am cool. But
54:37
he needs someone to leave the city when he's gone
54:39
there isn't anyone. If he left,
54:42
the supporters of John seven would
54:44
be able to put John on the throne and John would
54:46
give the over to the Ottomans immediately.
54:48
Okay. That is a problem. Bussica,
54:51
however, had an idea. How
54:53
about radical I know he
54:55
said? Why don't you put
54:57
John seven in charge when you're gone?
54:59
Manuel, probably said something
55:02
along the lines of, but that's what we're
55:04
trying to avoid, isn't it?
55:07
Well, Bhushka points out
55:09
that if you unite with your
55:11
a few first, unify the
55:13
factions in the city then
55:15
he won't give it up to the Ottomans because
55:18
you'll be one unified faction. Now
55:20
details are slim, but somehow the French Knight
55:22
managed to get Neffier and uncle to patch up
55:24
their differences. Now, the
55:26
two men don't trust each other. As
55:29
covered last time, they end
55:31
up adopting each other's children just
55:33
in a vague attempt to force some kind
55:35
of bond between them. They don't
55:37
like each other, they don't trust each other, but
55:40
Manuel's got little choice. It's still wartime
55:42
time. I'll adopt your child, but I'm looking
55:44
at him. Yeah. Well,
55:46
John's embedded into the city. They
55:49
make up, they have a ceremony. John
55:52
is put in charge and Manuel.
55:54
In December of thirteen ninety nine,
55:57
leaves the capital. Telling
55:59
his nephew, you are not allowed to
56:01
sell out the empire to the Ottomans,
56:03
the moment I turn around the
56:04
corner, is that clear don't
56:07
be your father. What you're
56:07
not allowed to do? Are you
56:09
still on the island? Yes. Tell him an empire when you're gone.
56:12
Now, last episode, we stayed with John
56:14
Sevel and covered how to spike not liking his
56:16
uncle, he did not give him to bears
56:18
it, but to many people surprise,
56:21
and he kept the seats going. This time,
56:23
however, we follow Manuel on his
56:25
tour. To begin with, he took his wife and
56:27
his two young sons, to Moria,
56:29
to his brother Theodore. The
56:32
two sons at this time, by the way, is
56:35
John John eight 169 a
56:37
boy called Theodore. You don't need to worry
56:39
too much about him. His his wife and his children
56:41
go and stay with his brother in Moria. Manwau
56:43
did not trust his family staying behind in
56:45
Constantinople, being besieged
56:48
with a nephew he didn't trust. So
56:50
once his family was safe, he then carries
56:52
on to Venice. Now the idea
56:54
was to go to Paris and to talk with
56:56
the French king because it
56:59
was Charles the sixth of France who
57:01
had actually offered some support.
57:03
But the corps immediately headed
57:05
to Paris to prep the arrival of
57:08
the Roman Emperor. Where his Manuel
57:11
headed there slowly. He's gonna take his
57:13
time. He's gonna work through some Italian
57:15
cities, including Milan to
57:17
try and gather some support there.
57:19
Now if Manuel was expecting his arrival to
57:21
be like that of his
57:22
fathers, he was pleasantly surprised.
57:25
When his father went west, he was treated
57:28
with pretty much contempt and then imprisons
57:30
until he handed over cash. However,
57:33
things things have changed somewhat in
57:36
the west. Although they would not have known
57:38
it at the time, the Renaissance
57:40
had started. Yeah.
57:42
Sort of.
57:44
So something
57:45
is like a a day and night kind of things like
57:47
nighttime medieval dark ages. I
57:49
think someone found a button and a seller somewhere.
57:52
Just to switch, medieval renaissance.
57:56
I wonder what this does. This
58:01
is beautiful. What's that looking though?
58:03
DaVinci just flies past him with a helicopter.
58:08
Good times. I mean, obviously, we're we're
58:10
very early on. We this is
58:12
certainly not the heights of
58:13
169, but
58:15
The early renaissance you There's things you
58:17
could score like that. Yeah. Things are starting,
58:19
should we say, Greek culture, suddenly very
58:21
enfashioned in the cities of Italy.
58:24
was treated as a wise and cultured emperor
58:27
greatly defending the Greek Roman
58:29
empire. He would have been guesstered
58:31
unaware if he won't.
58:32
No. No. No. No.
58:33
No. There's just the Roman empire.
58:35
Yes.
58:36
169. The Greek Roman Empire is ordered to spy by
58:38
the Greeks. They're lazy there today. But
58:41
we have Roman. Creek Roman?
58:43
Yes. Yes. Who would have
58:45
been cast of honor where he went? It helped
58:47
apparently that he had, as I've already
58:50
mentioned, but maybe you thought I was just joking
58:52
because what we've been saying, he
58:54
has quite an imposing
58:55
figure. He was large
58:58
chested. He has Yes. Apparently
59:00
had an impressive white beard. I can only
59:03
assume that that is a translation error
59:05
to from an impressive Moustache.
59:08
Small run Moustache. Yeah. Exactly. It's
59:10
easy done in the ancient Greek. But
59:13
yeah. It he was
59:15
Also said to be impressive in
59:17
his communication,
59:19
I'm taking that to me and he sounded cool.
59:22
Yeah.
59:23
Yeah. As as much as we have been
59:25
joking, apparently, he did have
59:28
quite a bit of charisma. So he
59:30
was liked where he went. And
59:32
wherever he went, he made two things clear.
59:34
One, Constantinople needs
59:36
help two, no,
59:39
I'm not about to become a Catholic in order
59:41
to get it. I'm Orthodox. I'm
59:44
fighting for the Orthodox Christian
59:46
capital of the world to save
59:48
my way of life. And you guys
59:50
as fellow Christians are gonna help me.
59:53
This approach very different to his fathers,
59:55
which was, yeah, of course, I become a Catholic. As
59:57
she seemed to gain in some respect, which
1:00:00
again kind of shows that a lot of
1:00:02
his charisma is doing the work for him. Rather
1:00:04
him coming across his belligerent, he
1:00:06
just comes across as a strong minded
1:00:10
Anyway, he slowly goes to Paris. It takes
1:00:12
him six months to get there, but
1:00:14
he does. He gets to Paris, Jamie.
1:00:17
he was greeted by cheering crowds of
1:00:19
over two thousand people when he gets there.
1:00:23
Yeah. He's making quite a splash on his tour.
1:00:25
Is this the first time we've mentioned Paris? No.
1:00:29
But it's been a very long time. If
1:00:31
I remember correctly 169 I certainly haven't locked this
1:00:33
up, The last time we would have mentioned
1:00:35
Paris as a city was right at
1:00:37
the start of Paris being a city
1:00:40
back in Julian's episode.
1:00:45
If I remember correctly, Julian was posted
1:00:47
in Paris for a while --
1:00:49
Okay. -- before he was emperor. Think
1:00:52
back when you were finding him particularly annoying.
1:00:54
Oh, yeah, Judy. Oh, bloody Julian. Yeah.
1:00:56
Yeah. Bloody Julian. Yeah. That's a
1:00:58
bit Julian. But
1:01:01
we might have mentioned Paris since that that is
1:01:03
just off the top of my
1:01:04
head. But this is
1:01:05
back in the day as well where the Eiffel Tower's made it
1:01:07
wood. Yeah. Yeah. I was gonna say this
1:01:09
is a this is a very different power store
1:01:11
when we last saw it. The the
1:01:13
Eiffel Tower's word, the the Louv
1:01:15
is there. That is actually
1:01:18
there. So there are recognizable
1:01:20
things in Paris when he goes there.
1:01:23
That you can point at TTRion. So
1:01:25
pretty evolution. It
1:01:27
was there, but it was also wood as well. Yeah. Lots
1:01:29
of lots of wooden structures. Just
1:01:31
place holders for now. We put something there
1:01:34
at some point. We've not decided, but
1:01:36
anyway, so he meets
1:01:38
Charles VI of
1:01:40
France 169 he is treated
1:01:42
as a guest of honor in Paris just as he
1:01:44
was in Italy. He was set up
1:01:46
in the French capital he used
1:01:48
this as a launching pad to contact all
1:01:50
the other kings of the west. Starts
1:01:53
writing off to everyone. He wrote
1:01:55
to the kings of Castile 169 Aragon, he
1:01:57
also contacted the king of England. Richard
1:02:00
the second promised me three thousand
1:02:02
pounds. I know he's no
1:02:04
longer king, but maybe you
1:02:06
guys could still pay up that three thousand
1:02:08
pounds. I was wondering if he
1:02:10
was so helpful. Yeah. To whom
1:02:12
it made concern, whoever's king at the moment
1:02:15
heard Richard the second is no longer there.
1:02:18
Anyway, all this took a while in the meantime,
1:02:20
Manuel got used to life in the French royal
1:02:22
courts 169 all its finery.
1:02:25
Now Paris obviously was less
1:02:27
impressive than Constantinople in
1:02:30
terms of architecture, massive
1:02:32
cathedrals, etcetera, etcetera. But
1:02:34
it was more impressive in some ways because
1:02:36
Constantinople was a city in decline
1:02:39
and Paris was one on the rise. So
1:02:42
Manuel has more impressively thought he was
1:02:44
gonna be. He thought he was on the fringes
1:02:46
of civilization. And he
1:02:48
was pleasantly surprised. However,
1:02:51
not bad. So it's something dampened
1:02:53
the spirit slightly or just dampened the
1:02:56
betrayal because Charles's
1:02:58
six have gone mad. Oh. Yeah.
1:03:00
That halted things somewhat. This wasn't
1:03:03
a new thing for Charles. He was Charles
1:03:05
six, but he was also known as Charles the
1:03:07
mad. For the last eight years, he'd been
1:03:09
suffering from something that affected his mental
1:03:11
capabilities. Back in thirteen
1:03:13
ninety three, he forgot his own name. And didn't
1:03:15
know he was king for a while. In ninety five,
1:03:18
he declared he was safe George himself
1:03:20
169 he didn't recognize his wife and children.
1:03:22
Very much like our own Justin too. If you
1:03:24
remember, his ex literally braked
1:03:26
up areas of the palace to keep him from
1:03:28
wandering. And at times,
1:03:31
Charles thought he was a lion.
1:03:33
He was an animal as well. He was an animal
1:03:35
as well. It's very similar to the stories we got at Justin
1:03:37
too. So I he did have large periods
1:03:40
of being very lucid and had been
1:03:42
doing alright for a while, but just
1:03:45
after a man while visited, he he lapsed
1:03:47
again. So someone
1:03:49
took Manuel to one side and suggested, maybe
1:03:52
why don't you go and see some of these kings you've been
1:03:54
writing to her because you're not gonna get
1:03:56
anything sensible out of child for a while. So
1:03:58
Manuel has a look at the insert cadence that
1:04:00
he's been writing to. Who's struggling under
1:04:02
the term? That three thousand
1:04:05
pounds is still really bogging me. I'd really
1:04:07
like that three thousand pounds. Maybe maybe
1:04:09
I'll pop over it to England and
1:04:11
visit the king there. By this time
1:04:13
he'd found out who the king was, it's king Henry
1:04:15
IV. King
1:04:18
Henry the fourth, that's who it is.
1:04:21
So Manuel, in December of fourteen
1:04:23
hundred, crosses the channel 169
1:04:25
lands in Dover.
1:04:27
We're
1:04:28
in England JV.
1:04:29
Is this so cool? Yeah. What
1:04:31
happened? Two days later, he
1:04:34
was in Canterbury. Can't
1:04:36
debris. Was it can't debris? I was in can't
1:04:38
debris two days ago, Jamie. Yeah.
1:04:40
Yeah. it two
1:04:41
days? No. It's long ago. Anyway, a few days ago,
1:04:43
I was encamped with Did
1:04:44
did you see him there soon? No. But
1:04:46
I did look around to see if I could see any evidence
1:04:49
that he was there. Any guitars
1:04:51
lying around? Didn't say any guitars.
1:04:54
cathedral, however, that
1:04:56
is in Canterbury. Canterbury cathedral is
1:04:58
the own cathedral that was there when Manuel
1:05:00
went there, so he would have fancied. Yeah.
1:05:03
He he definitely went and saw the cathedral
1:05:05
while he was there. So Or he went in it? Yeah.
1:05:07
Yeah. No. He did. He stayed
1:05:09
with -- Yeah. -- he stayed as
1:05:11
far as we can tell, he stayed just off-site
1:05:14
of the crude oil. Saman era.
1:05:16
And there's no way he wouldn't have gone in the
1:05:18
cathedral. It's
1:05:20
the only thing to do in Canopy. So
1:05:24
yeah. So he he did that. He stayed there
1:05:26
for a few days, and then it was off to London
1:05:29
to meet with Henry 169.
1:05:32
Manuel was very impressed with what he
1:05:34
saw. He was treated well.
1:05:36
Fees were put on. Entertainment, a
1:05:38
toy was held. We're very medieval
1:05:41
here. This is medieval England. We
1:05:44
actually have a letter that he wrote in London,
1:05:46
a man well wrote glumingly
1:05:49
of King Henry, using words to describe
1:05:51
him that he'd only ever used to describe his
1:05:53
brother Theodore. He thought Henry was a
1:05:55
really good bag. That
1:05:57
was the word. He threw a
1:06:00
translator, asked Henry about three thousand
1:06:02
pounds. Henry said that he
1:06:04
would inquire what his predecessor had done.
1:06:06
And I I get back to you. Don't worry. According
1:06:09
to Henry, Richard had indeed paid for three thousand
1:06:12
pounds. But the money was last accounted
1:06:14
for in Genoa. But fear not,
1:06:16
said Henry, we're gonna track out money down.
1:06:18
We're gonna get it for you. They did a
1:06:20
wink. The man wow said,
1:06:24
the English, I like. They
1:06:26
said, this sounds we're trying to bring company together.
1:06:29
It's just little
1:06:30
bit. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Sorry.
1:06:32
It's now been transferred to that. But I do get the impression
1:06:35
that Henry maybe was just saying,
1:06:37
oh, yes. No. We definitely paid, but it got
1:06:39
lost. But don't worry. Yeah.
1:06:41
Find it. We'll find it. Okay. Yeah.
1:06:43
And also, we'll provide you with men to defend
1:06:45
Continental a pull of course. Manboy was
1:06:48
very happy and like I say, we've got the letter.
1:06:50
Our quotes are can can can can
1:06:52
can we mess up the Jeff stories a bit? Gondola.
1:06:55
English Jeff. Oh, there's there's been an
1:06:57
English Jeff for for quite some time.
1:06:59
Lost lost line of Jeff's. Yeah.
1:07:02
We just had They're they're Jess, but they've
1:07:04
slowly anglified, and they
1:07:07
are
1:07:07
spout, GE0FF.
1:07:10
And they are just become fairly competent
1:07:12
butlers.
1:07:13
Oh, yeah. That's a great idea. As
1:07:15
in they can stand up straight and not
1:07:16
drop mugs too. Yeah. But fairly confident
1:07:19
in Jeff's universe terms. Yeah.
1:07:21
Yeah. They
1:07:22
they can hold the doors open if they lean against
1:07:24
them slightly. Yeah. Yeah. But I
1:07:25
yeah. Hold the doors open the same way
1:07:27
that the door stop can. Yeah.
1:07:29
Do worries, Jeff. Well done. Anyway, Manuel
1:07:32
was very pleased in London.
1:07:34
He wrote to a friend. A large
1:07:36
number of letters have come to us from all
1:07:38
over very excellent and wonderful promises
1:07:41
most important is the ruler
1:07:43
with whom we are now staying. The
1:07:46
king of Britain, the greats. The
1:07:48
king of a second civilized world, you
1:07:50
might say who abounds and so such
1:07:52
good qualities 169 is adorned
1:07:55
with all sorts of virtues. Although
1:07:58
he has gone to extremes. In
1:08:00
all he has done for us, he seems
1:08:02
almost to blush in the
1:08:03
belief. And this is alone that
1:08:05
he may of follow considerably a shot
1:08:08
of
1:08:08
what he should do for us. This
1:08:11
is how magnanimous the man
1:08:13
is. Say,
1:08:16
yeah. Man, well,
1:08:18
we need to get somewhere with Henry. Two of them.
1:08:21
Don't speak the same language. I have to speak
1:08:23
for translator. Stands a bit
1:08:25
of awkward
1:08:25
laughing, which she was like, But
1:08:36
translators actually translating the laughter.
1:08:42
Yes. Your wife, she is very beautiful.
1:08:45
Yeah. Things like that. Alright. Thank you.
1:08:47
Yeah. So a great foreman
1:08:50
well gave Henry a gift,
1:08:53
a piece of the seamless tunic
1:08:55
of Christ. There you go. Have
1:08:57
a relic.
1:08:59
People love Dorelix back then. There's a bit of tunic
1:09:01
of Christ. Be careful with it.
1:09:03
One of the kind. 0II see a man
1:09:05
well. It's it's your your church
1:09:08
is you're missing a a square shape
1:09:10
of this this fabric that
1:09:12
says made in
1:09:13
concert, no pull. Well,
1:09:15
Harry was very pleased with the seamless tunic
1:09:17
of Christ.
1:09:18
It's the thought that counts. Yes. Yes.
1:09:20
It's the thought. Well, he immediately cut it into two
1:09:22
and gave half of it to the archbishop of Canterbury.
1:09:25
Okay. Who immediately cut his piece into
1:09:27
and started giving bits
1:09:28
out. So yeah.
1:09:31
There you go. Pound a piece. Everyone
1:09:34
ended up with a thread of the tunic of Christ.
1:09:36
It was great. Anyway, you
1:09:39
know how you you could keep going like cutting
1:09:41
it hard to get like the atoms. Well, yeah,
1:09:43
you keep going
1:09:43
forever. Mhmm. It's it's
1:09:45
just endless. So anyway,
1:09:48
where were we? Manuel is in London. That's what he's
1:09:50
doing. He spends time seeing the sights
1:09:53
London Bridge. That's there then.
1:09:55
Oh, of London. That's there then.
1:09:57
Westminster Hall. That's there
1:09:59
then. It's got a brand new
1:10:01
Westminster Hall. Westminster Hall.
1:10:03
Yeah. Yeah. Westminster Hall, obviously,
1:10:06
the the rest of the houses of
1:10:08
parliament built way, way afterwards.
1:10:10
But Westminster Hall itself survived.
1:10:13
It's about a thousand years old. Now it's survived
1:10:15
for a very long time. The
1:10:17
roof has just been redone, and it's now
1:10:19
the largest hole in Europe. At
1:10:22
this time. So it would have been very impressive
1:10:24
when he went to go and see it. Yeah. Yeah. He stayed
1:10:26
two
1:10:26
months. So did all that. He did the chat, the
1:10:28
web of the tour. Bannity
1:10:31
swords.
1:10:33
That's great. Of the end, Portugal, London,
1:10:36
London. So I guess London, London's people
1:10:38
kept chomping out of him. Arms
1:10:40
falling off, blood spurting everywhere. Not
1:10:43
makeup. This was just my people. Yeah.
1:10:46
It's great.
1:10:48
Anyway, did you did you do, like, an open
1:10:50
rooftop tour? Yes. Definitely.
1:10:52
On a horse, like, open horse tour.
1:10:54
Oh, that's brilliant. I had a great time. Yeah. Well,
1:10:56
there's I love London t shirts as well. Yeah.
1:10:59
It's a it was a bit tacky thought,
1:11:01
but you know what? He's over going to be in London
1:11:03
once. So Yeah. Why not? Something on
1:11:05
the display cabinet. He he found the worst fridge
1:11:07
magnet he could find and sent it back to John
1:11:09
seven. So many of you. So
1:11:12
anyway, he stays for two months, like I say, and then
1:11:14
it's back to Paris. It really
1:11:16
doesn't feel like we're doing a Roman Emperor episode.
1:11:18
Does it? No. This is the tour. Yeah.
1:11:21
Back to Paris. With what he got
1:11:23
in his pocket. That's right, Jeremy.
1:11:26
Three thousand pounds. Yay.
1:11:28
But they somehow found it in Jamaica
1:11:31
and brought it back Yeah. Someone else It's
1:11:33
fine. We found it sorted. So it's a administrative
1:11:36
error. He goes, and everyone in London
1:11:38
goes out. God for that. That
1:11:40
was expensive, wasn't it? And
1:11:42
we said we were gonna send lots of men. It
1:11:44
doesn't matter. Thomas'
1:11:47
abate were given. Back in Paris, Manuel
1:11:49
is writing to all the other kings of the west.
1:11:51
He's tasked Phil more optimistic. But
1:11:54
as the monks wear on, becomes clearer
1:11:56
and clearer to man well that wherever he
1:11:58
went, he was treated well promises were
1:12:00
given, but that's all they were, promises,
1:12:03
words. Months turned into
1:12:05
a year in Paris, the nominally two
1:12:07
by this point, and he was no closer
1:12:09
to turning with an avenging army. every
1:12:11
day that passed was more danger from the Ottomans
1:12:14
and from John who he didn't trust.
1:12:16
So at this point, he writes to John
1:12:18
admitting that the English, who were his best
1:12:20
hope, was still in no position to help.
1:12:23
He spent his time writing in Paris,
1:12:25
a lot of which still survives. Theology,
1:12:28
it was his main concern. He did lots
1:12:30
of stuff around theology, you get the impression
1:12:32
that if he wasn't the emperor, he
1:12:34
probably would have been quite happy to retire in
1:12:36
Paris and get on with his
1:12:38
writing. He seems to be having a nice
1:12:40
time. I mean, he still could.
1:12:42
He 169 nothing stopping him. Well,
1:12:44
he I mean, he feels like he's got job
1:12:46
to do, though. He feels like he's he's
1:12:49
got a job to do when he's failing. However,
1:12:51
there is some encouragement rumors from
1:12:53
the east start to filter into
1:12:55
the west. It started when he was back in
1:12:57
London and then become more
1:12:59
when he goes back to Paris. Apparently,
1:13:02
the king of the Turks has been
1:13:04
killed. This can only mean 169 thing,
1:13:06
the king of the Turks, that's that's got to be
1:13:09
the Ottoman Sultan, but it's dead.
1:13:11
Okay. I I mean, this is great
1:13:14
if true, but Manuel was very cautious.
1:13:16
News is obviously very unreliable at
1:13:18
such a distance. So what's
1:13:21
really going on in the east? Is bears
1:13:23
a dead do you think? No. Awesome.
1:13:25
Well, it's complex and I'm going
1:13:28
to simplify it. I mean he's yes
1:13:30
or a no. That's quite simple. Okay.
1:13:32
No. He's not. But
1:13:35
let me let me just catch
1:13:37
with what has been going on in the east. Shall I?
1:13:40
I'm gonna simplify this. I'm gonna
1:13:42
brush over a lot because it's not
1:13:44
really important to the story of the Roman Empire,
1:13:47
but you do kinda need to know some of it.
1:13:49
So the Ottoman Sultan base it
1:13:51
has been the siege in
1:13:52
Constantinople. Yes? Yes.
1:13:55
Good. But that's not all. He's also
1:13:57
consolidating all his empire in Anatolia,
1:14:00
going from strength a strength getting stronger
1:14:02
and stronger. He's also got
1:14:04
lots of land in Europe by this point.
1:14:06
And because of this, especially
1:14:08
the getting stronger in Anatolia, Beysett
1:14:11
had caught the attention of a man who we have not
1:14:13
mentioned in this podcast 169 yet has been
1:14:15
around for a while, and this is Timur, also
1:14:18
known as Tambulin. Now, Tamar
1:14:20
was sixty four and is a legend in his
1:14:22
time has still wanted this day, he
1:14:25
claimed to be a descendant of king
1:14:27
of scam. And for the last forty years,
1:14:29
he'd been doing a very good job
1:14:32
at trying to rebuild the Mongol empire
1:14:34
over Humberger's previously. So who is
1:14:36
this tomorrow? Born into
1:14:38
relatively humble origins as part of the
1:14:41
Turkish mongrel tribe. He
1:14:43
became a military leader where roughly
1:14:45
Afghanistan's standards today. That's where
1:14:47
he was. He went from strength to strength,
1:14:49
from rose through the ranks he did until
1:14:51
he was rolling over what became known as
1:14:54
the Temerad Empire. Which covered
1:14:57
modern Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan,
1:14:59
Pakistan, Central Asia the
1:15:01
Caucasus. This is a
1:15:04
huge pendant. Yeah.
1:15:06
In other words, this is the major
1:15:08
power in the
1:15:09
east, just as the parthians and the Persians
1:15:11
and the
1:15:12
caliphate used to be. Well, he's probably got
1:15:14
the biggest empire in the world over time. It's
1:15:16
it's
1:15:16
it's rivling one of the most powerful
1:15:18
folks, consolidated empires. Definitely,
1:15:20
yes. Yeah.
1:15:22
Yeah. You you've you've gotta go, like,
1:15:24
off to China. It's it's definitely bigger
1:15:26
than any of the empires in Europe. At
1:15:28
this time because Europe has turned
1:15:30
into small little born kingdoms. Now,
1:15:33
the Ottomans obviously have
1:15:35
taken on the role in our narratives of
1:15:38
being the danger in the east. But that's only
1:15:40
really because the Roman Empire shrunk so
1:15:42
much. But beyond the Ottomans,
1:15:45
is this powerful empire? So
1:15:47
anyway, Tamara first came up against
1:15:49
the Ottomans ten years previously, a
1:15:52
small emirate on the right side of Anatolia,
1:15:54
afraid of Bayezid's rapid rise
1:15:57
in the area had gone to welfare protection.
1:16:00
Shortly after this, Besid had demanded
1:16:03
that this emirates become a vasset
1:16:05
state just as bezid had been
1:16:07
doing with the Romans. However, Timur
1:16:09
heard of this and was insulted, how
1:16:12
dare you demand? One of my vassals
1:16:14
to be one of your vassals. So
1:16:16
Tamar took a force into Ottoman
1:16:18
territory and raised
1:16:20
a city to the grounds slaughtering
1:16:23
everyone who lived there just
1:16:25
like that overnight. It's absolutely
1:16:28
flat of the city. It's quite a statement.
1:16:30
Oh, yes. And with that body in place, he
1:16:32
just turned around the left. That's
1:16:36
confidence. Yeah. It really is
1:16:38
just left left a note on it like a burning bit
1:16:40
of
1:16:40
timber. Let
1:16:43
me place three stars. Would
1:16:47
raise again. The
1:16:50
the warning is definitely put in place. So
1:16:52
essentially, Beza, you might think you're
1:16:54
mister Big. Boston around all those
1:16:56
people in the Balkans, but don't think about
1:16:58
expanding in this direction. Keep your
1:17:01
eyes pointed that way, and we won't have
1:17:03
any problems. Yeah.
1:17:05
So this is the tale that had reached
1:17:08
London and Paris. One
1:17:10
of Fraser's sons was involved in
1:17:12
the raising of that city, so it's probably
1:17:14
his son being caught up, which
1:17:17
snowballed into the tail of the Turkish
1:17:19
king being killed. So
1:17:21
Beyzeid is alive, but,
1:17:24
oh, there's there's problems for him.
1:17:26
So the news comes through to man well.
1:17:29
Yeah, Beyzeid's not dead. Manboy
1:17:31
was disappointed, but it's
1:17:34
it's not all bad news. But it's
1:17:36
got far bigger problems than the Roman Empire.
1:17:38
Maybe just maybe fingers crossed. He'd
1:17:41
leave them alone soon. And, sure
1:17:43
enough, this is what happens, Bayazid,
1:17:45
was outraged that Timur
1:17:47
had flattened one of his cities. That
1:17:50
you can imagine. He saw
1:17:52
Timur as a barbarian. He was a
1:17:54
lowly upstart. He wasn't from Stark.
1:17:57
Who was this awful human being
1:17:59
who thinks he's powerful. He he got
1:18:01
lucky. That's all, but allows
1:18:03
on his side not to us.
1:18:05
I I have I have God behind me,
1:18:08
so I will be victorious. So,
1:18:11
where is it? Let that be known. I
1:18:13
don't care, but you flattened on my city. You
1:18:16
need to stay out of the Turkish empire. Don't
1:18:18
come in here again. Tamir
1:18:20
here's of this immediately gathers
1:18:23
all his forces. Right? We're going back again.
1:18:25
And in July of fourteen o two,
1:18:27
the Mongol and the Turkish forces
1:18:29
meet near Ankawa. This
1:18:31
is a huge battle and
1:18:33
very decisive. By the end of
1:18:35
the battle, base it and four of his
1:18:38
sons have had to flee the battlefield.
1:18:40
That forces crushed.
1:18:42
Oh, dear. The sun's escape, but
1:18:45
the sultan base it himself was captured
1:18:47
and taken to Tamir. And he said
1:18:49
that Tamar kept him alive for
1:18:52
at least a year. Oh. Yeah.
1:18:57
Parading him around Anatolia as
1:18:59
he tore everything up, just
1:19:02
ripping apart everything that Bezerd
1:19:04
had spent his life creating. The
1:19:07
Ottoman Empire absolutely shattered.
1:19:09
In Anatolia, it becomes just
1:19:13
a smoldering wreck. The
1:19:15
lands that they had in Europe is
1:19:18
now just leaderless, Totalus.
1:19:21
It's overnight. That's it. The Ottomans
1:19:23
have gone. Tumor soon
1:19:25
becomes bored of just absolutely
1:19:27
gutting the empire, so he heads off to
1:19:29
invade China. Alright. Why
1:19:32
not? Why not? And there he leaves
1:19:34
our story. Fortunately,
1:19:36
he dies a couple of years later before he can really
1:19:38
invade China. But Iyazhi, he was
1:19:40
quite a character he
1:19:41
was. Maybe
1:19:42
I've assumed him
1:19:43
in a panda bear. Yes. Probably. They
1:19:45
were vicious back then. A
1:19:48
lot less lazy. Yep. More
1:19:50
reproductive. Swarmed
1:19:53
by them. Just just like,
1:19:56
drop like drop bears in our shreds, drop other
1:19:58
trees, and -- Yes. -- that's awesome. Swarmy
1:20:01
like locusts. It was awful. Yeah.
1:20:03
So we're we're leaf tomorrow being swarmed by
1:20:05
pandas. Yeah. But we're we're
1:20:07
doing Manuel. So let's go back to Manuel
1:20:09
Manuel, here's of this brilliant.
1:20:12
Okay. I can go home then. I don't need to
1:20:14
be raising troops in Western Europe. Back
1:20:16
to the capital. So he heads back to Constantinople
1:20:19
169 he finds his nephew has already dealt with
1:20:21
the aftermath of the destruction of the Ottomans
1:20:23
understandably. He had to deal with it.
1:20:25
Yeah. His nephew had
1:20:28
sided with Solomon. Solomon
1:20:30
was based its oldest 169.
1:20:32
And was now claiming to be Sultan. And
1:20:34
Solomon had agreed that Constantinople no
1:20:37
longer had to pay an annual tribute, and
1:20:39
also they could have thessalonica back.
1:20:42
Well, Yes. Yeah.
1:20:44
This this was this was great. We're
1:20:46
in Empire again. Yeah. Solomon
1:20:49
was going to rule from Adrianople. And
1:20:51
try and rebuild an incredibly weak
1:20:54
Ottoman empire. But
1:20:56
the the Romans Right. Yeah. Like
1:20:58
you say, we're we're we're expanding again.
1:21:01
And our biggest threat has been destroyed.
1:21:03
Manuel probably couldn't believe his luck. And
1:21:05
also, John seven didn't revolt.
1:21:09
Yeah. Much to Manuel's relief. It was
1:21:11
agreed that John would go to thessalonica 169
1:21:14
he would roll it. Nice. Yeah.
1:21:16
So Manuel unpacks all his
1:21:18
stuff, puts his little wooden
1:21:20
replica rifle tower the tower of London
1:21:22
open his
1:21:23
bedroom. Nice.
1:21:24
Yep. Is that the fridge magnets?
1:21:27
Yes. And then he looks around.
1:21:30
Okay. Right. What do I need to
1:21:32
do? What sort out the city? It's
1:21:34
bit of a mess, but also the land
1:21:37
that we've got back under control. It's not just
1:21:39
thessalarmica, the city. It's a fair
1:21:41
bit of the right side of that triangle has
1:21:43
been given back to them. Not
1:21:45
beyond the Ram's possibility that they're going
1:21:47
to be able to, like, actually have
1:21:49
continuous land down to Morio again.
1:21:52
This is like decent land back in the
1:21:54
empire. I mean, I say
1:21:56
decent. For the time, it's decent
1:21:58
anyway. Yeah. Yeah. So that's
1:22:00
that's good. So he starts just working on
1:22:02
Rowling and trying to improve
1:22:04
things. As he's doing this, a couple of deaths
1:22:06
occur, His beloved brother Theodore
1:22:09
dies in
1:22:10
Moria, that was sad. then
1:22:12
John seven dies, which wasn't sad.
1:22:15
Oh, what's a shame? I
1:22:18
shall grieve him. Finished.
1:22:22
Latin time. However,
1:22:25
obviously, Manuel is not going to be able to just
1:22:28
get our withdrawal link undisturbed for
1:22:30
lung. The Ottomans are not going to be quiet
1:22:32
forever. Beza's sons
1:22:34
were competing to take over the throne
1:22:36
and had started to plot against each other.
1:22:39
Five, in fact, brothers in Totalus.
1:22:42
you want to make a note of these? We've
1:22:44
already mentioned Solomon, the oldest brother.
1:22:46
He is Sultan at the moment, but
1:22:48
there's also Easter, Mammoth,
1:22:51
and Musa. They're the other three
1:22:53
brothers. And also, unknown
1:22:55
to any of them at the time is someone
1:22:57
called Mustafa. Who claims
1:23:00
that he's also a son of Be converset,
1:23:03
but he's sort of unknown at this point.
1:23:05
So there's five sons of Be converset. Solomon,
1:23:08
Issa, Melad, Musa, and Mustafa.
1:23:11
They are all going to fight each other
1:23:13
to see who's going to become the next Sultan.
1:23:15
Place your bets. If you're listening, who do
1:23:18
you think is gonna go out pop if you
1:23:20
don't know? And Jamie, who you're gonna choose? Who you're
1:23:22
putting your money behind? Either
1:23:24
Solomon. So I think he's the oldest he's
1:23:26
got my
1:23:27
experience. He has already salted,
1:23:29
so he's coming from a position of power. Yeah.
1:23:32
I so I don't need to miss Stafford. I think he was 169
1:23:34
like, hey, look, he's me then die his
1:23:37
any. Okay. But almost as soon
1:23:39
as he walks out of a door,
1:23:40
like like wood
1:23:41
drops in his head, unconscious, stabbed.
1:23:43
So I I'm gonna say, cinnamon comes
1:23:46
out on top. You're gonna go after someone.
1:23:48
Okay. And your second
1:23:49
guess, just in case he doesn't? Issa. Okay.
1:23:55
It's the second name you said. Fair
1:23:56
enough. Right. Okay.
1:23:58
The first move in this war of succession
1:24:00
was by Mammoth. He killed
1:24:02
Isa. Okay.
1:24:03
He's out the picture there. He's out the picture. Membered
1:24:05
ordered him to be strangled. So,
1:24:08
there you go, strangulation, death. Cross
1:24:11
him off 169 he's gone.
1:24:13
Yeah. Then Musa declares war on
1:24:15
Solomon. Yeah. This
1:24:17
war lasts six years Manuel
1:24:20
was more than happy to watch the Ottomans
1:24:22
fight against each other whilst he was getting
1:24:24
on with trying to rebuild his empire. However,
1:24:28
Maumas is not a fool as we know. He
1:24:30
realized eventually one of these brothers is gonna
1:24:32
169 up on top, and he needs to use this time
1:24:34
to build the Empire's power up. So
1:24:37
he continues to write to the West support
1:24:39
with the usual results. If yes, of course, we'll
1:24:41
send help. Soon as something
1:24:43
happens that makes us actually do it.
1:24:46
But more practically, he started looking
1:24:48
into how to fortify Moria. He
1:24:51
was worried that the Ottomans, now
1:24:53
that they've only really got decent land
1:24:55
in Europe. Once they organize themselves, they're gonna
1:24:57
sweep down into the bottom of the triangle and
1:24:59
take the only land that they have that's
1:25:02
not their salonika 169 Constantinople. Mhmm.
1:25:05
So plans for a wall
1:25:07
to cut off the south of modern Greece were
1:25:09
made. You know how that southern
1:25:12
bit of Greece is just hasn't
1:25:14
now It's just got a narrow bit of
1:25:16
land. That attaches it. Well,
1:25:18
we could build a wall across that he thought.
1:25:21
So they they make plan to do that.
1:25:23
Eventually, this wall is built pretty
1:25:25
much overnight By the way, it's a quite impressive
1:25:28
feat of engineering. Well, it's a very small bit of
1:25:30
land. It's like three feet across. It's like
1:25:32
really annoyed the land owners in the area though because
1:25:34
they have pay for. But it's halfway through
1:25:36
by farm. But it's
1:25:39
a farmer from earlier.
1:25:40
Yeah. And you're
1:25:41
moving out, new farmland, new carrots,
1:25:43
then suddenly,
1:25:44
But the war through his farm. The
1:25:47
What current? Meanwhile, whilst all this
1:25:49
is going on the wall between Solomon and
1:25:51
Musa came to an end, Musa
1:25:53
attacked Ivan Apple, taking
1:25:55
someone by surprise. Someone
1:25:57
writes to Manuel asking for aid. Manuel
1:26:00
sends troops. You got tables
1:26:02
have turned. Oh, yeah. Definitely. Manuel,
1:26:04
say send troops. He wants Solomon in charge.
1:26:06
Solomon is the one who agreed they could have
1:26:08
their silonica 169 that they could stop paying
1:26:10
the money. Solomon is a soft touch.
1:26:13
They want Solomon. So they send troops
1:26:15
to support the Ottoman leader who
1:26:17
had been so generous to
1:26:18
them, but it wasn't enough Mousa
1:26:21
169, and had Solomon strangled.
1:26:23
Oh,
1:26:24
no more. It's just guessed it was a good one.
1:26:27
You
1:26:27
do guessed it was pleasure. Right.
1:26:28
Go on.
1:26:29
Who are you gonna guess next? That III
1:26:33
rescinded my first point in misstaffing rocking
1:26:35
up and going, I'm never
1:26:36
No. You gotta go from the staffing. Okay. I'll
1:26:38
end the misstaffing. I'm right. So
1:26:41
Musa is now the leader, and
1:26:43
he is no Solomon. Musa
1:26:45
came from a faction who thought that Solomon
1:26:47
had given far too much to the Roman 169
1:26:50
they wanted to take it back. They were the hardliners.
1:26:53
And Musa wasted no time. He
1:26:55
gathered troops 169 he marched on Constantinople.
1:26:59
Another siege begins overnight. However,
1:27:02
this isn't like the earlier sieges. Manuel
1:27:04
had not wasted the previous few years
1:27:07
the city was ready They weren't going to
1:27:09
be caught out like at the start of
1:27:11
his reign, where he was dealing with
1:27:13
the aftermath of his Farber's reign. The
1:27:15
city had enough provisions, no one was going
1:27:17
hungry this time, they had enough ships
1:27:19
to keep the sea lanes open. They
1:27:22
had fortified the walls enough that Musa
1:27:24
had to keep a distance. This
1:27:27
This was looking much better than last time.
1:27:29
Still, mousa sent in demands anyway,
1:27:31
surrender and start paying the annual
1:27:34
tribute again. Solo 169? Pay
1:27:36
the annual tribute, and then I'll leave you alone.
1:27:39
Manuel stalled for time because once
1:27:41
Musa had set up a
1:27:42
siege, Manuel set his plan
1:27:44
in that He did Henry the fourth. Oh, yeah.
1:27:46
No. We sent it. We sent it ages ago.
1:27:48
Yeah. He got it. Waylaid in Genoa.
1:27:51
Sorry. That's bloody Genoa. Yeah.
1:27:56
No. No. He'd sent off a letter
1:27:58
to Anatolia, where
1:28:00
Mennert was. Uh-oh. Okay.
1:28:03
The other brothers
1:28:04
Yes.
1:28:05
He's always strangled, Esa, 169 Yes.
1:28:08
Yep. Absolutely. Right. Why don't
1:28:10
you come and defeat your brother Musa?
1:28:12
This
1:28:13
is right here. Big open fields. Yeah.
1:28:15
I'll help you, and then you can be
1:28:17
in charge of the Ottomans. Mehmed
1:28:20
wrote back saying, I'm listening.
1:28:23
So he was invited to the capital. He's
1:28:26
been through through the siege. Well,
1:28:28
they had the the sea open
1:28:30
because they they bad this time. So,
1:28:32
yeah, he was able to go into the capital. Med
1:28:34
Med was entertained for three days.
1:28:37
For three days, he was told how he couldn't
1:28:39
lose. He was really peped up. And
1:28:43
after those three days, apologies.
1:28:46
Still by the government on his own. Yeah.
1:28:49
Pretty much naked with two swords.
1:28:52
What what three days of drinking Well
1:28:55
When I first read this, I assumed
1:28:57
he went back after agreeing to fight
1:28:59
his brother and prepared. But no apparently,
1:29:02
after three days, he left
1:29:04
the city with fifteen
1:29:06
thousand men. Who I can obviously
1:29:09
seem were lent to him. And
1:29:12
yes, I'd like to think with two swords and hands
1:29:15
shirtless, just screaming. Yeah.
1:29:19
He lost -- Yeah. -- to the nipple.
1:29:22
No. No. Or if he did, so he
1:29:24
had tough nibbles 169 it bounced
1:29:26
off. He managed to escape. He was not
1:29:28
killed. Suradoth Manuel
1:29:30
was encouraging him to link up with the Serbians
1:29:33
and then attack his brother again. Okay.
1:29:35
That didn't work. But that's
1:29:38
some Serbians who don't like your brother. I've
1:29:40
I've already given fifteen thousand men,
1:29:42
but yeah, come on. You can do
1:29:44
this. So more pep talks. This does definitely
1:29:46
work. Yeah. Lots more pep talks. Late
1:29:49
night karaoke to build up his confidence,
1:29:51
things like that. Few shots Yeah.
1:29:54
Exactly. 169 soon enough a new force
1:29:56
was put together, and Mehmed attacks
1:29:58
his brother. He loses
1:30:00
again.
1:30:02
But the third time Jamie, the third time
1:30:05
I could do it this time. Yeah.
1:30:07
Just drink the whole bottle before I hit
1:30:09
come on. And this
1:30:11
one worked. Third time, the siege
1:30:13
is broken. Musa is driven off the city.
1:30:16
The two brothers then fighting each other in a short
1:30:18
war. Long story short here, Musa
1:30:21
Lizards. Mhmm. And
1:30:23
as it's becoming traditional with his family,
1:30:26
Mela Edgold had him strangled. Yes.
1:30:28
Right? There we go. Mehmed is now
1:30:31
the Sultan. I wouldn't have predicted
1:30:33
him. No. He was appreciative
1:30:36
of Manuel's support. And once
1:30:38
he had won this war and became Sultan, he sent
1:30:40
work to Manuel. He said
1:30:42
to the the messengers, quote,
1:30:45
Go and say to the emperor of the Romans
1:30:47
that I shall be his subject, a
1:30:49
son to a father. For he
1:30:51
will find me neither unaware or ungrateful.
1:30:54
Let him order me to do his bidding
1:30:57
169 I shall with the greatest of pleasure
1:30:59
execute his wishes like a
1:31:01
servant. That's very kind
1:31:03
very kind, essentially saying,
1:31:06
yeah, I'll be a Totalus state to the moment.
1:31:08
This this is looking really good. Manuel
1:31:11
is plaguing the Ottoman princes
1:31:13
off each
1:31:13
other, and he is getting results. Almost
1:31:16
like, what they did
1:31:17
to him or
1:31:18
Oh, the tables have turned so much.
1:31:20
This is the opposite of how he
1:31:23
came to power. Just devink later
1:31:25
a symbolic table turning in in the
1:31:27
palace. I 169,
1:31:29
grab one egg, one corner. Seriously, it's a circle.
1:31:31
Well, grab a grab an edge. I think
1:31:33
Manuel just leaned back in his chair.
1:31:35
Put his feet up on the table then just get his
1:31:38
heel a quick flick 169 the table
1:31:40
will just
1:31:40
spump. 169 I think that's hard.
1:31:43
Yes. Then then you just put hell
1:31:45
to match the spinning table, match lit
1:31:47
cigarette. Yeah. Manuel
1:31:49
is aging. You can come by this point. So
1:31:52
if it's still yeah. I've been a really cool way.
1:31:54
Oh, in a really cool Silver Fox
1:31:56
kind of way. That stashes. It's
1:31:59
It's a silver mustache now, but it's just
1:32:01
as cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's
1:32:03
he's from Mako guitars looking a little bit
1:32:05
worse for wear, but light
1:32:07
trigger. Like, trip? If
1:32:09
you're you're a guitar fan and you're hearing
1:32:11
this, you know what I mean. Okay. No fan. Don't
1:32:13
don't don't don't interrupt. Don't interrupt. Yeah.
1:32:17
He just plugs away on
1:32:19
his guitar whilst everything
1:32:21
falls into place. Excellent. So
1:32:24
he goes on walling for a bit, peace to
1:32:26
sense of as close to as possible
1:32:28
for a while. He works on fortifying
1:32:31
areas. He goes on a tour of his lands,
1:32:33
the wall that was planned before
1:32:36
is built at this point. His
1:32:38
son John VIII is now old enough to
1:32:40
be left in charge of capital. So
1:32:42
he has left in charge for capital. Meanwhile,
1:32:45
by the way, Bay is its final 169,
1:32:47
Gustavo, who, like I say, may not have been
1:32:49
son. He claimed he was a son but he certainly
1:32:51
wasn't a promised family member. He was a long
1:32:53
lost son. Anyway, he suddenly
1:32:56
pops up. I'm the son of Bezerd,
1:32:58
he said, I'm the true sultan.
1:33:00
And after a series of events that we don't have time
1:33:02
to get into, he was captured in Thessalonica.
1:33:05
So the Romans have him. So Manuel
1:33:07
has two options. He either
1:33:09
hands Mustafa over to Mehmet
1:33:12
or he keeps Mustafa as a prisoner
1:33:14
just in case. What's he gonna do?
1:33:16
Keep him just in case. 169 that's exactly what
1:33:18
he does. He writes to Mehmed and says,
1:33:21
I'm not gonna give him to you, but I
1:33:23
keep him under lock and key. Don't worry. He
1:33:26
cannot harm your sergeant's ship. You
1:33:28
are still sergeant. So this is Manuel,
1:33:30
just letting Ma'am, I'd know who's
1:33:32
actually in charge
1:33:33
here. Yeah. And just having a spare
1:33:35
sultan in the back pocket, that's useful,
1:33:37
isn't it? Yeah. It's grandi. Yeah. Yeah.
1:33:39
You think you'll forget, and it's like finding a five pound
1:33:42
nose. Oh, didn't Let's have
1:33:43
this. Brilliant. Let's spend this
1:33:46
now. Excellent. Great.
1:33:48
Wake them up. Oh, no. We've really
1:33:50
did forget about
1:33:51
him. Didn't we hold it? Oh. Why
1:33:54
don't you give him a drink?
1:33:55
Yeah. A drink. Yeah.
1:33:57
As you can imagine, Mehmed wasn't best pleased
1:33:59
about this, but it does seem like the two
1:34:01
men actually got on well enough personally
1:34:03
169 no lasting damage was done.
1:34:06
So there you go. This is just Manuel.
1:34:08
It's showing up her some political
1:34:10
capital here. Yeah. Right. By this point,
1:34:13
Manuel's getting old. Like I say, he was
1:34:15
passing more and more of the Empire's dealings to his
1:34:17
169, John eight. John gets married
1:34:19
his crowned co m proformally, and Manuel
1:34:22
starts to step back from his duties.
1:34:24
Because of this, we start to see a rift
1:34:26
in the policies towards the Ottomans, however.
1:34:29
Manuel trusted Mammoth to keep the peace.
1:34:32
His son John did not The
1:34:34
more John took over to
1:34:36
the more harsh the empire were with the Ottomans.
1:34:39
At one point, Mehmed asked to pass
1:34:41
through the capital. Whilst he
1:34:43
was passing from Anatolia into
1:34:45
your plans. A man without giving permission.
1:34:47
Yeah, of course he didn't come through. John, however,
1:34:50
went to his father and went, this is the perfect
1:34:52
opportunity to ambush him. We could
1:34:54
ambush him, and then we would have
1:34:56
the Ottoman Sultan in our power.
1:34:58
Manuel looked at his son and
1:35:00
just went, no. No. We we
1:35:03
have made a pact
1:35:05
of truce between our empires. It's
1:35:07
working Let's not rock the boat.
1:35:10
So he refused to listen 169 meant to
1:35:12
pass through the capital unharmed. However,
1:35:16
Shortly after, Mammoth died
1:35:19
very suddenly. It's not clear how
1:35:21
his aids keep it hidden for a while because
1:35:23
they don't want anyone to know in the outside
1:35:26
world, but it's either a hunting accident
1:35:28
or poison. But it's
1:35:30
suspicious or whatever it is.
1:35:34
Yeah. The fact that he was hunting accident,
1:35:36
he had eighteen hours in his back. What
1:35:40
was carrying a glass of poison juice?
1:35:42
News reaches Constantinople. We
1:35:45
can only guess Manuel's reaction to this
1:35:47
and whether he blamed his we just
1:35:49
don't know. Either way, he
1:35:51
wanted to recognize Morad two
1:35:54
as the next Sultan, this is Mehmed's son.
1:35:57
Okay. Succession can pass on. We will
1:35:59
recognize Moab two. Moab
1:36:01
two was more than happy with this, okay, I'll
1:36:03
carry on doing what my father did where carry
1:36:05
on. However, John
1:36:08
eight has a better plan. He
1:36:10
goes to his father, why don't we
1:36:12
use Mustafa? Remember,
1:36:15
we've got mister Stafford and the cell still?
1:36:17
Why don't we use him and
1:36:19
get them to fight each other? Where are we
1:36:21
at least mister Stafford? given some men he can fight
1:36:23
lower too, it will weaken the Ottomans
1:36:26
just like they did to us for
1:36:27
years, just like you did
1:36:29
with the older brothers. Let's carry on doing
1:36:31
that. Good man.
1:36:33
But we don't need to do this.
1:36:36
Well, as well, by this point
1:36:38
me, my son.
1:36:40
Man, wow, by this point was too old to argue.
1:36:43
John Hate has the power in the court.
1:36:46
Man, well, doesn't like the idea, but Mustafa
1:36:49
is released. He's
1:36:51
given support. Mustafa sets
1:36:53
off against moderate two. Who
1:36:56
instantly destroys
1:36:57
Mustafa, at least one of your predictions is
1:36:59
correct.
1:37:00
Yes. This is She
1:37:02
said to the door. I'm free. I'm out
1:37:04
of the face. Yes. Yeah.
1:37:08
We're stuff as dead. So
1:37:10
none of the sons of Beyzez
1:37:13
really win, but you could argue Meyze
1:37:15
was the ultimate winner because it's his son
1:37:17
who becomes the salt on the bench 169 Mora
1:37:20
two is furious,
1:37:23
shall we say, with the empire? You
1:37:25
betrayed me. You said that
1:37:27
I could be the next sultan. And
1:37:29
now, you have just betrayed me. You
1:37:31
tried to have me killed. And Morad
1:37:34
two was not messing about. He
1:37:36
was a a go get them kind of sultan.
1:37:39
He was enraged at the empire, dared
1:37:42
to try and take his birthright from him, So
1:37:44
he raises a force he marches
1:37:46
on the capital yet another
1:37:49
siege. And this siege was
1:37:51
a serious siege. Mora two
1:37:53
was not messing about. It
1:37:55
this was not like the
1:37:57
last siege, which was an attempt to get the
1:37:59
Empire to pay an annual tribute. This
1:38:02
Siege was designed for one thing and one
1:38:04
thing only to break the city
1:38:07
and to end the empire. An immense
1:38:09
ramp up was built power out to the
1:38:11
walls of the city, slave traders
1:38:13
were called to be ready because
1:38:16
once the city fell 169
1:38:18
was going to be sold into slavery. They
1:38:20
were going to utterly gut
1:38:22
this place and raise it to the ground.
1:38:25
Amendment two was not messing about.
1:38:27
Manuel, meanwhile, old Manuel,
1:38:30
barely keeping it together. He's just
1:38:32
slowly reading old love letters
1:38:34
that he composed in his youth and
1:38:37
strumming on his guitar, looking out the window,
1:38:40
and news comes to him.
1:38:43
What's going on? He's got one last
1:38:45
trick up his sleeve. It's an old trick.
1:38:47
It's worked before. Let's see if it works
1:38:49
again. Is he connected,
1:38:51
I guess? Yes. He's
1:38:53
gonna write some letters. He's
1:38:55
gonna write a letter. Yes. Oh,
1:38:57
because Moa too had
1:39:00
a brother Now he was young,
1:39:02
too young to rule, but man well knew
1:39:04
people. He knew people in the
1:39:06
Ottoman Empire because he'd got on fairly
1:39:08
well with Mehmed. Say,
1:39:10
he wrote to these people in Anatolia saying,
1:39:13
if you can overthrow Marad, then
1:39:16
we will support his brother on the throne.
1:39:19
it works. Arrested in the Ottoman Empire
1:39:21
due to this letter meant that Mauret
1:39:23
had to lift the siege, but
1:39:25
that was the only good news because
1:39:28
Morad soon got a handle off on things
1:39:30
169 then decided rather than try to crack
1:39:32
the capital again immediately before
1:39:35
he does that because, oh, he is going
1:39:37
to do that. Morant wants to destroy
1:39:39
Constantinople. But first, he
1:39:41
says, Let's take everything
1:39:44
from them. Oh, no, thessalika.
1:39:47
Things then happen. But by
1:39:49
this point, It's roughly about this time
1:39:51
that Manuel suffers a stroke. He
1:39:54
is paralyzed, but his mind
1:39:56
still works. For the next three years, he's
1:39:58
still emperor, but his son is doing the real
1:40:00
wall ink. So we'll cover what happens
1:40:02
in John eight's episodes. But
1:40:05
Manuel would have been informed that thessalonica
1:40:08
has indeed fallen. In fact,
1:40:10
pretty much everything he has gained in
1:40:13
his lifetime. Has
1:40:15
gone back to how it used to be when
1:40:17
he first became emperor. And as
1:40:19
a very angry, Ottoman
1:40:21
sultan, about to knock down
1:40:23
the gates of Constantinople. And
1:40:26
then in fourteen twenty five, he
1:40:28
was molt a few days before succumbing
1:40:31
to an
1:40:31
illness. And dies.
1:40:34
And that is the end of Medwell
1:40:36
Doss. That
1:40:40
was a good episode. I enjoyed that
1:40:42
very interesting narrative. Yeah.
1:40:45
We're we're we're going out on a bit more a
1:40:47
bit more of a, I don't know, it's still
1:40:49
falling apart, but in a different way to the West
1:40:51
flat apart. Yeah. That was just like a
1:40:53
slow limper. That
1:40:54
was a poor temper. Temper being
1:40:56
rubbish whereas Yeah.
1:40:58
You can see so much potential. There's savvy.
1:41:01
There's politics. There's a
1:41:03
bit of fighting. But, you know Yeah. Well,
1:41:05
I'm talking of which. Let's wait and shall we?
1:41:07
Fiantly. Maximum.
1:41:10
Okay. I mean, he he didn't personally
1:41:12
do really anything in the way of fighting his
1:41:14
emperor. But don't forget, let's look back
1:41:16
at the start of the episode. He was involved
1:41:19
in fighting in his youth. He
1:41:21
fought for More Ads and for Bezos. When
1:41:23
he was young because he was forced to, but
1:41:25
he was doing fighting. We don't
1:41:27
really get any stories of him fighting
1:41:30
for the Ottomans. We do get
1:41:32
one small thing. Apparently, he was the
1:41:34
first over the wall when fighting
1:41:36
against the the Filipians. But
1:41:38
that's almost certainly not true.
1:41:41
This was this is hyperbole
1:41:43
being used to highlight the fact that a
1:41:45
Roman Emperor was fighting for
1:41:48
the Ottomans against a Greek
1:41:49
city, and oh, that looks bad, doesn't it?
1:41:51
He he probably probably picked me sword for the
1:41:53
first time after, like, the fourth or fifth day
1:41:56
of fighting. Probably.
1:41:57
Yeah. He's he's a lover, not a fighter.
1:41:59
That's what he is. What else do you
1:42:01
do though? He did get Sayers back for the empire.
1:42:04
Remember, after he'd freed his dad, he
1:42:06
came back, realized that Saras the
1:42:09
the Serbians didn't hold it very strongly,
1:42:11
so he managed to get Saras back. That's good.
1:42:14
So he did some fighting there. He
1:42:16
was in no fewer than four separate
1:42:19
sieges in his life. Yeah.
1:42:22
Yes. Some of them lasting years.
1:42:25
The first one, thessalonica, he
1:42:27
had to flee. 169 do too good
1:42:29
there. The second
1:42:32
one, he left to get help.
1:42:34
If you were unkind, you could say he fled again.
1:42:37
But the last two, he used political maneuvering
1:42:40
to get out of them, and that was actually pretty good.
1:42:42
So some political fighting there. Analyically,
1:42:46
he just refused to give up. So
1:42:48
he he just kept trying to get
1:42:50
support to fight. Most of his rule was
1:42:52
just trying to get support to fight the up.
1:42:55
Ottomans. He did not bow down to the Ottomans
1:42:57
like his father did. He fought fought
1:42:59
fought and fought his whole life. Yeah.
1:43:01
Just not giving up. So
1:43:04
it's mixed bag, no
1:43:06
massive
1:43:07
stories. I don't think we can go into high points,
1:43:09
but he's certainly deserves some. I
1:43:11
think so. I'd I'd
1:43:13
give him health. There's
1:43:15
a lot so it's political fighting. I'll give him
1:43:17
a healthy
1:43:18
five, I think. But how does that between four
1:43:20
and five? I'm
1:43:21
gonna go five. Okay. I'll
1:43:23
match with them. You can get them. Ten. Ten.
1:43:26
Proveum, crazy of the other.
1:43:29
Okay. We get a lot of detail on Manuel
1:43:31
compared to other emperors
1:43:33
around this
1:43:34
time. And you've got
1:43:36
to say he seems like very sensible guy.
1:43:39
Yeah.
1:43:40
Really does. We've had a word
1:43:42
of sensible weakness for a while. We've not
1:43:44
had much in the way of crazy halfway. Mhmm.
1:43:46
But he Also, Manuel does very little
1:43:49
a program. We've had a program recently. Mhmm.
1:43:51
We've had fathers blinding sons.
1:43:53
We've had sons queuing against fathers.
1:43:56
Manuel doesn't really do any of that.
1:43:58
His father outlaws him,
1:44:01
but you Manuel was doing the sensible
1:44:03
thing. You It's I'm behind him. He
1:44:06
was
1:44:06
trying to defend a city. Yeah.
1:44:10
So if there's not really any a problem
1:44:12
either, unless you can think of something in that story
1:44:14
that I've missed. No. No.
1:44:16
He just seemed like somebody trying to do his
1:44:18
best for the well, I can't see
1:44:20
the Empire City. He seems
1:44:22
like a competent ruler.
1:44:24
Yes. Yeah. Who's very
1:44:27
sensible. Even on
1:44:29
on his deathbed, he
1:44:31
is said to have told
1:44:33
an adviser that his son wants
1:44:35
to be a great emperor, but what he
1:44:37
needs to be is a good manager. It's
1:44:42
just a sensible person. Yeah.
1:44:45
He's not crazy. I
1:44:47
don't think he can get any points in this round
1:44:49
at
1:44:49
all. No. Which
1:44:50
is a shame.
1:44:51
It's a shame. But is
1:44:53
there a
1:44:54
Successless alternatives. Okay.
1:44:56
How do we judge this? The
1:44:59
empire on his death is pretty much
1:45:01
in the exact same state as when he came
1:45:03
to the throne. But I would argue that
1:45:05
in itself is remarkable. When
1:45:08
you look at how long he called. That's a
1:45:10
good point. When he came to power, he
1:45:12
was clearly a pocket emperor
1:45:14
to a Sultan who was about to take over. Who's
1:45:16
being ordered to go and visit, like, yeah.
1:45:18
Yeah. He was being ordered around. He was a pocket emperor.
1:45:21
He was one of two potential pocket
1:45:23
templars. It's but
1:45:26
he had no power whatsoever. And
1:45:29
yet, he outlasted that
1:45:32
sultan he set the Sultan's sons
1:45:34
against each other for long enough the Empire
1:45:36
to keep going for quite some time.
1:45:38
The Roman Empire definitely would have
1:45:40
fallen if it wasn't for his abilities.
1:45:43
Definitely. Yeah. You
1:45:46
get the feeling. If John seven
1:45:48
had to become the next emperor instead
1:45:51
of Manuel, that's it. That
1:45:53
would have been our last episode. But man, well,
1:45:55
keeps everything together.
1:45:56
Yeah. He's he's a spider legs hanging
1:45:59
on water's a four
1:46:01
line
1:46:02
head. That's what he is. And
1:46:04
yes, the empire got very lucky
1:46:07
with bezed being destroyed. By
1:46:09
Timur. But
1:46:12
Ma'am, I'll took advantage of that. You
1:46:14
could criticize him for abandoning
1:46:17
the Empire and just going off to the
1:46:19
west when the city was being seeched.
1:46:21
But you could argue he had no
1:46:23
other option. He needed help from somewhere
1:46:25
and he needs do something, so he
1:46:27
tried it. He didn't succeed in
1:46:30
getting help from the west, and he spent
1:46:32
most of his life trying to do it. So
1:46:34
could you say he failed there? But
1:46:37
could he have done more? I mean, he
1:46:40
he wouldn't lift over there for a while. He went
1:46:42
from country to country asking for help. He
1:46:44
then went back to Constantinople
1:46:46
and ask for more
1:46:47
help. But
1:46:49
he did he did get some of the
1:46:50
help. He had the the whole cavalry,
1:46:53
what's it called? Crusade.
1:46:54
The hell of the crusade wasn't him, though.
1:46:56
No. But he was successfully in getting it started.
1:46:59
That he didn't even get it it. It was the
1:47:01
the king of Hungary. Got that started because he was
1:47:03
born. He asked for help. He
1:47:05
he did. He he was the fire.
1:47:08
He was the flight
1:47:09
catalyst. A That's the
1:47:11
169. Him being invaded was a
1:47:13
catalyst. I don't think we can give him credit for that.
1:47:16
Considering we're only three emperors
1:47:18
to from the end, I'd say he did
1:47:20
remarkably well. It's a falling apart
1:47:22
empire. He bloody well. Yeah.
1:47:24
I mean, he's not getting high points. Because
1:47:27
the empire's still in the same state, but
1:47:29
he kept it going. And that
1:47:31
is impressive. For that reason, I'm gonna give him
1:47:34
60I was thinking the
1:47:36
same
1:47:36
thing. Okay. A five would be
1:47:38
nothing changes. Yep. But it did
1:47:40
change. It got worse. Then it got better.
1:47:43
And we see him. Yes. But
1:47:46
you could argue it it it got worse because
1:47:48
of his son rather than through
1:47:49
heaven. Yes. Wow. That's my son. We will judge his
1:47:51
169. Last episode. I agree
1:47:53
with six. I am gonna match you with twelve.
1:47:55
Twelve. Okay. He's
1:47:58
holding a sausage. He's holding a sausage It's a sausage
1:48:01
or a lobster or something. It's
1:48:03
or a big boomerang. He's holding something
1:48:05
and he looks happy about it. Yeah.
1:48:09
He's got a a big gray beard.
1:48:12
Big gray mustache. 169
1:48:15
it almost looks like he's got a cheeky little
1:48:17
smile. It's that's a cross on. That's
1:48:19
what it is. Oh, from
1:48:20
France. Yeah. It's
1:48:21
from France. It's when he was in France. He's eating a cross
1:48:23
on 169 even looks like he's nibbled the top of it.
1:48:27
Yeah. I mean, it is
1:48:30
still very reminiscent of
1:48:32
previous image.
1:48:33
Yeah. It is. It's not exactly
1:48:35
the same as the drawings we've had It's
1:48:37
it's more of like a
1:48:38
it's more 3DA bit more Yes.
1:48:40
-- painting. It's it is very reminiscent
1:48:43
though, isn't it? I'm going to go straight
1:48:45
down the middle five because it's nothing new, but
1:48:47
I'm gonna give them a bonus point for the cross on.
1:48:49
So get you get over six. Yeah. I'm going
1:48:51
to six. I'll go with
1:48:53
twelve, which gives me a total of three.
1:48:56
K. Ten to complete
1:48:58
it. I think he Oh,
1:49:00
I don't know if you quite answer forty years, but
1:49:03
the thirty late thirty, smile
1:49:05
at. I don't know. From
1:49:07
thirteen ninety one to fourteen
1:49:10
twenty five.
1:49:12
Can
1:49:12
you tell me what
1:49:13
that is? Thirty five years.
1:49:15
Thirty five years. That's very good. Yeah.
1:49:18
That is thirty five years. And for most
1:49:20
of it, him actually ruling like him
1:49:22
being a ruler.
1:49:23
This is very impressive. But
1:49:26
at this point -- Yeah. -- at this point. Huge.
1:49:28
Hugely impressive. Yeah.
1:49:32
That gives him a score four point two
1:49:34
five for this round. Which
1:49:36
gives him a total if I've added this up
1:49:39
generally, of twenty nine point
1:49:41
two
1:49:41
five. That's what I got. Twenty
1:49:43
nine point two five, not quite in the thirties club.
1:49:45
No problem. But
1:49:46
he's point seven five away. So Yeah.
1:49:49
And considering
1:49:51
as one of the last emperors, that is
1:49:53
higher points than I'd be expecting at this time
1:49:55
in a podcast. So Yes.
1:49:58
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, and I
1:50:00
think we've got a genuine question for
1:50:02
now. Oh, we do. Oh. Do
1:50:04
they have a cell phone? Okay.
1:50:09
Strip away all all of the stuff of the fact
1:50:11
that he's calling in Spanish. That's
1:50:13
like a good This is a skin of a sausage. It's
1:50:15
it's I'm I'm just gonna say that there is
1:50:17
a chance that that is not historically accurate.
1:50:19
III don't know where that comes
1:50:21
from. Okay. We'll we'll do that as
1:50:24
hypothetical. Hypothetically, it might not be
1:50:26
a thing. Yeah. It might not be a thing.
1:50:28
We'd like to deal with facts. So let's
1:50:31
pretend that that's would
1:50:33
just discount all the obvious evidence
1:50:35
that he had pencil to thin mustache 169
1:50:38
he had his guitar. If
1:50:40
you just get to the nuts and bolts of the story,
1:50:43
he has the fact that he came to England, that
1:50:45
is something I would tell people about. Yes.
1:50:49
And he went to Paris, which is called
1:50:51
as well.
1:50:52
He didn't give up. He kept
1:50:54
fighting. He was ballsy
1:50:57
compared to his father. It's like, nope. This is what we're
1:50:59
gonna do. You need to help me do
1:51:01
it.
1:51:01
Definitely, compared to his father, he was.
1:51:04
Is that enough to catch any Caesar though, Jeremy?
1:51:07
The empire was at a point where it would have
1:51:09
collapsed. Yeah.
1:51:11
It didn't. It lasted for another
1:51:14
thirty seven years because of him. It
1:51:16
could have
1:51:17
collapsed. Twenty
1:51:19
odd years before, and we'd our podcast would be a lot
1:51:21
shorter. Two
1:51:24
episodes. Two episodes. Sure. Sure.
1:51:26
Yeah. Hi. I
1:51:31
think hand on heart, I think I'd have to say
1:51:33
no. But if you say yes, we can
1:51:35
go to the coin. III think
1:51:37
I have to say
1:51:38
yes. Okay. You're gonna
1:51:40
say yes. Yes. Because
1:51:43
interest thing. He's an interesting guy. He he is interesting.
1:51:45
It wasn't gonna be sold. And this one
1:51:47
This end of this at this
1:51:49
point, can you imagine him for being this
1:51:51
successful, getting almost forty.
1:51:53
That was thirty. That
1:51:56
was almost ten. Almost
1:51:59
two. Okay. It's a
1:52:01
it's a power range coin for these and
1:52:03
their
1:52:03
morphers. Excellent.
1:52:06
Okay. However, both sides are the same.
1:52:08
So that feels
1:52:10
like you're trying to reckless. Yeah.
1:52:14
Dinosorb. He gets it. We
1:52:16
are going to use the
1:52:19
first time ever on this
1:52:20
podcast, a
1:52:22
new coin. Oh, a new
1:52:24
coin. Oh, sorry.
1:52:26
I wasn't looking at the screen. That that's
1:52:28
that's a king
1:52:29
Charles. So you
1:52:30
have a king Charles coin? Yeah.
1:52:33
They When have they been coming out? They gave
1:52:35
them out in shops apparently. Yeah.
1:52:37
They've been out for AII didn't realize.
1:52:40
Then I I don't use my wife's
1:52:42
hands anymore, Jamie. It's
1:52:44
the
1:52:44
future. No. Becky got it for me. So
1:52:46
I think it's just a skincare's coin. Oh,
1:52:48
okay. I look at the new back as
1:52:50
well. All different.
1:52:53
Is that across for England and
1:52:56
Wales and Scotland and
1:52:58
Nova
1:52:59
Ireland? Yes. Just got the Irish
1:53:01
harp on it. No.
1:53:02
Nice. That's got the Giddie harp
1:53:04
on it. Yeah. Now we get to see which lasts longer.
1:53:06
The United Kingdom
1:53:08
of Great Britain or King Charles. Yeah.
1:53:12
Well, I'm sure one of those sites will be obsolete
1:53:14
quite soon. Right. Anyway,
1:53:19
dark.
1:53:22
Yeah. Oh, right. Okay then. So
1:53:24
Manuel gets
1:53:25
heads. He's the head.
1:53:27
Okay. If it's King Charlie, then
1:53:30
he's got it. Okay. And we
1:53:32
flick. That
1:53:36
was the sound of the coin flicking.
1:53:38
We are But it's the camera
1:53:40
so we're obviously at the same time.
1:53:44
Did
1:53:44
you say it? Yes. I did see it. You
1:53:46
did see
1:53:46
it. I can't lie then.
1:53:52
It was head. It was head. Yes.
1:53:55
Sorry. Jupiter has
1:53:57
spoken Manuel, you
1:54:00
get Jenny Caesar, which,
1:54:02
I mean, in my heart some parts, I'm happy about
1:54:04
because obviously, Manuel
1:54:07
being this cool as we say he is is definitely true
1:54:09
and therefore he definitely deserves it. Yeah. Well, I mean,
1:54:11
you gotta go with the facts. Right? Yeah. Exactly.
1:54:13
So that is a yes for Genesis.
1:54:17
Possibly the last one we give out. But then, I mean,
1:54:19
how did you not give it to the very last emperor,
1:54:21
so It's
1:54:23
true. So Jamie, all we've got
1:54:26
is Manuel's two sons left, John
1:54:29
eight and Constantine eleven. That's
1:54:32
it. So
1:54:34
close to the end. I never thought we'd
1:54:36
get to this, I'll be honest. It's
1:54:39
crazy, isn't it? Absolutely
1:54:41
crazy. Right. Okay then. Well,
1:54:44
thank you very much for listening 169.
1:54:46
And I just like to give a Well
1:54:48
done, so Rob as well. Because at the moment, you're inflicted
1:54:50
with the with coronavirus.
1:54:53
Yes. I'm not actually well at the moment.
1:54:56
I've I'll have to edit out the coughs and
1:54:58
stuff. Yes. 169
1:55:01
kill me now. Yeah.
1:55:04
And the sloping of the lens sips. But
1:55:07
I got through the episode. Yeah. I did.
1:55:09
That's good. Yeah. Right.
1:55:12
Okay then. Well, thank you very much
1:55:14
for
1:55:15
listening, 169.
1:55:18
thanks for downloading some Poppy and iTunes Stitcher,
1:55:20
Amazon, and wherever you download it.
1:55:21
Sure. How did you laugh, Raven?
1:55:24
How did you laugh? How
1:55:26
did you laugh? How did you cry? Goodbye.
1:55:48
Hey, thank you for the letter Manuel,
1:55:51
mister Manuel, sir. Thank
1:55:54
you for inviting me. But I just
1:55:57
don't. I just don't think I could defeat Musa.
1:55:59
He's outside. He sees in the city.
1:56:01
He looks tough. And I'm I'm just
1:56:03
the younger brother and that I
1:56:05
don't think I could go against him
1:56:06
so. I'm really sorry. And that
1:56:09
is why
1:56:10
you fear. You
1:56:12
don't believe in yourself. No.
1:56:16
No. I don't.
1:56:18
And that is why you will die
1:56:21
like a do. I don't
1:56:23
want to die. I have an idea. What
1:56:26
else? Down this. Okay.
1:56:29
Now we should have
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