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you listening the micro version of the savage,

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lovecast at savage love

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if you stay,

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couldn't pick a single topic to kick off this week

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so there's just too much

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good stuff out there so military through

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a few topics before we began first up

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reverend method man ass reverend

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ted haggard back in the headlines and

0:36

back in them for precisely what you might have guessed

0:38

if you're old enough to remember the

0:41

last time reverend math a man asks

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was given us all headlines back

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in two thousand and six haggard was ahead of the national association

0:48

of evangelicals a powerful leader

0:51

on the religious right founder of a mega

0:53

a mega in colorado springs

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which is probably now a mega mega church like all

0:58

the others haggard at the time

1:00

had a weekly phone call would then president

1:02

george w bush the worst president

1:04

we thought we'd ever have boy were we wrong

1:08

haggard wasn't just openly

1:10

anti gay he was flagrantly

1:12

anti gay flaming li

1:14

anti gay

1:17

then then a gay sex worker

1:19

heard haggard publicly attacking gays

1:21

and figured people had a right to know haggard

1:24

had been privately attacking his deck mike

1:26

jones honest sex worker outed

1:28

ted haggard dishonest preacher and

1:31

turns out haggard wasn't just after

1:33

sex from jones he begged jones

1:35

to buy him math and jones

1:37

had it all on tape voice mails

1:40

haggard left it the haggard sex

1:42

scandal broke right before the two thousand and six midterm

1:44

elections and after that election

1:47

a lot of political observers stop haggard scandal

1:49

helped create a democratic way that

1:51

year the two thousand and six dems

1:53

took the house and senate a bunch of statehouses governor's

1:56

mansion voters were disgusted

1:59

the pies

1:59

the brokerage like ted haggard

2:01

and incompetent fucking idiots like george

2:03

w bush

2:05

well looks like the scandal ferry

2:07

for the good omen ferry were both

2:09

those berries what this year's midterm elections

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to go the way the two thousand and six midterm elections

2:14

did how else to explain haggard

2:16

making headlines for ,

2:18

back on the paul just a few months

2:21

for the rest of us go to the polls

2:23

the denver gazette reports powerhouse preacher

2:25

ted haggard faces new allegations

2:28

of illicit behavior haggard

2:30

founded a new church in twenty

2:32

ten because of course he did

2:35

because pt barnum was wrong

2:37

there's not a sucker born every minute there's

2:39

a sucker baptized every minute

2:41

well turns out young men at haggard new

2:44

church have come forward to say

2:46

haggard has been touching them appropriately

2:49

allegedly and also using math again

2:52

allegedly here's hoping raburn

2:54

met the man as does for twenty twenty two what he

2:56

did for two thousand and six sprinkle a little

2:59

a that built the pious hypocrites out fairy

3:01

dust all over the election

3:03

it helps collect downs

3:06

i call him reverend math and manners and very

3:08

to a song that actor musician paul hip

3:11

wrote about haggard mathematics on a sunday

3:13

mornings worth looking up worth

3:15

listening to still slaps

3:17

so good been listening to it

3:19

all morning next a quick

3:21

update on stan pulliam you

3:24

may remember stance he was the republican

3:26

mayor of a small town in oregon who is running

3:28

for governor of oregon's as a family

3:30

values conservative and a trump supporter

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of backer of the big lie the

3:35

and was going on right wing media outlets the campaign

3:37

against portland values the

3:39

same way national conservatives campaign against

3:41

san francisco values who the big

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cities that's where the perverts are you gotta

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watch out at , point stand

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with the front runner and looking like him i

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get the republican nomination for governor but then

3:53

then all learned that pulliam the

3:55

mayor of a tiny town sandy oregon podium

3:57

and his wife were swingers

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swinger that swagger swan with other

4:02

swingers and you'll never guess

4:05

portland

4:06

though there was important values stand

4:08

couldn't get behind like living

4:10

wages are defending the police but

4:12

there were some he could like open

4:14

relationships and group sex and watching other men

4:17

buck other mother of your children liam

4:19

didn't deny it that's to his credit

4:22

for guess but he couldn't really deny it

4:24

there was too much evidence photographic

4:26

evidence to credibly

4:28

deny these charges

4:31

that podium argue that was a private matter

4:34

you know privacy republicans have

4:36

a right to some you don't have a right to any

4:38

any said it was a long time ago way way

4:41

way way back in twenty six

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team dot u p voters

4:45

were not throbbing with excitement at the prospect

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of pulling her lover's for stay and

4:50

organs deal p voters didn't come

4:52

through for podium unlike portland's

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swingers deal p voters didn't

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seem to want to come anywhere near bully i'm don't

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, how i missed it at the time of the boat was back on

5:02

may seventeenth pulliam

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came in third in a

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crowded field sloppy thirds

5:08

with just ten percent of the finally

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who is the prince of

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pegging and why was prince

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of pegging trending on twitter last week

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in the uk it's clear a lamp and

5:20

at the cut ranked the likely candidates

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from most to least likely

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prince william prince harry prince andrew and prince

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philip gonna say that last one prince

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philip seen staunchest least likely to me

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but impossible seeing as prince old

5:33

has been dead for two years weapons piece

5:35

of the cut open with a likely candidate prince william's

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but before we go too far down this

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road weapon road i should note that

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williams purported love of pegging derives

5:44

from pure speculation nothing

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, comes remotely close to

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being confirmed weapon traces

5:50

the rumor back to a royal blind item on

5:53

a celebrity gossip las pr account called

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do was at , media

5:58

party the do more blood the item

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author writes i was told the real reason

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for this royals rumored of fair was

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the royals love of pegging which

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his wife is far too old fashioned to engage

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and the wife doesn't mind and

6:11

in fact prefers her husband getting his sexual needs

6:14

met elsewhere here's hoping

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this royal wife whoever she might

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be just like mrs haggard and

6:20

mrs pulliam is getting her needs

6:22

met elsewhere too you

6:25

know why i care about this right with

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prince of pegging trending in

6:29

the uk over the weekend and online

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searches for the definition of pegging in

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the uk skyrocketing the

6:36

definition my readers created

6:38

there are now more people in the uk home to

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the oxford english dictionary it's

6:43

who know the definition of pegging today

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the new the definition of pegging last week's

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so oxford english dictionary

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editors we have another argument here for

6:52

getting pegging in to finally

6:55

the oxford english dictionary

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where it belongs that's really all

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i want for christmas got a lot

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of calls embargoes last week who better to help

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by guys zachary zane sex

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advice columnist himself co

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our minds boy slot zach resent

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joins meets to help answer a

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few questions we talk about dibs the bro code

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monkey pox and how to ask your third

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in irregular three ways whether they've been

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considered myself, maybe a little bit by,

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but i've only had

8:51

sex with men and dated men up

8:54

until this point point

8:56

i've always enjoyed mms porn

8:59

and kind of fantasize about being with a man

9:01

and woman at the same time but have but

9:03

had the opportunity your side of the opportunity

9:05

to the that i recently i was

9:07

on the apps and i was horny and

9:10

i met a trans

9:12

man so this is a man

9:14

with a vagina and we clicked

9:16

and ended up getting together

9:19

and having sex and it

9:21

was the nominal it was great

9:23

sex they were super fun and

9:26

what i really liked about it was

9:29

i loved their vagina i loved

9:31

watching it and i love playing with declared and

9:33

i like fucking it's and

9:36

i never thought before that i would

9:38

be so into a vagina

9:40

us are now since i'm thinking about

9:42

it and i kind of warner

9:45

i sleep with a woman

9:46

but

9:47

my dilemma or my question is i

9:49

don't really want to sleep with a

9:51

woman and tell her that i'm a

9:54

gay man i just feel like she

9:56

will read it differently

9:58

then is it a

10:00

heterosexual man

10:03

, with her and

10:05

in and can't really thoroughly explain why is

10:07

that is in my head i just have that feeling like

10:09

that don't wanna go into it as like i'm a gay man

10:11

sleeping with you sleeping thought about going to

10:13

other cities to do this so that

10:16

it can be kind of pre established said this established like

10:18

you know i'm in time for business it's a one one

10:20

time meet up type of situation

10:23

is of ethical for me to sleep

10:25

with a woman and not disclose

10:27

my sexuality as

10:30

long as it's kind

10:32

of pre established as like as really short

10:34

term relationship

10:36

your question reminded me of a subplot

10:38

in i may destroy you which was

10:41

is the insanely good h b o

10:43

comedy drama created by mikhail

10:45

a call loss of stars in

10:47

it the whole series really

10:50

explores send

10:52

him or can be blurry about consent

10:54

and problematic as and there's a

10:56

there's a subplot with us gay male

10:58

character one of a mchale a cold

11:01

characters best friend or that

11:03

card is named quami and he you

11:06

know in the wake of a sexual assault

11:08

begins to be curious about may be sleeping

11:10

with a woman or feeling safer sleeping with a woman

11:12

any picks up a woman's and he's

11:14

again if i'd man he sleeps with that

11:16

woman without disclosing

11:18

to her that he was

11:20

a gay man and of course that woman

11:22

made the entirely reasonable assumption

11:25

that this guy who is

11:27

interested is interested straight

11:30

maybe by

11:33

but definitely interested in her interested

11:35

in women generally open to women romantically

11:38

the sexually why me

11:40

was out experimenting

11:42

and this woman is angry

11:44

later because she didn't consent

11:47

to being experimented

11:49

on or experimented in or

11:51

experimented where

11:54

yeah

11:57

the message in i may destroy you

11:59

one thing

11:59

mommy where into that something that he did

12:02

need to disclose and his failure

12:05

to disclose or his

12:08

allowing this woman to make entirely

12:11

reasonable assumptions in

12:13

that instance in that case in

12:15

, case of of this the hot

12:17

dude is interested in me in that

12:20

that was you know leveraging the reasonable

12:22

assumption in a way that tip

12:25

toes that or collapses

12:27

into and on ethical

12:29

violation of someone's

12:31

consenting a lotta people and around saying you

12:33

should make these assumptions you should make assumptions if

12:35

you make an assumption that assumption you that

12:39

you know or moon gay dude if dude

12:41

if some woman out on a date as quami

12:43

dead she's gonna makes the entirely reasonable

12:45

assumption that i am at

12:48

the very least not a gay dude

12:51

the great or by

12:53

there were one hundred and so play into your

12:55

circumstance well if you want

12:57

to have a sexual experience with a woman i

13:00

definitely think you should explore the

13:02

male male female three way option

13:04

there are a lot of by guys

13:07

out there with female partners

13:09

who are interested are interested a

13:11

guy who is down to fuck them

13:13

and fuck with them but also down to fuck with

13:16

the wife and so

13:18

you could as the mostly

13:20

gay guy who's into women

13:23

into pussy be

13:25

, great demand and that

13:27

mms three way that you fantasized about is

13:29

certainly something that's with a little

13:31

bit of digging around on on

13:34

or other dating apps it wouldn't

13:36

be hard to set up for yourself but

13:38

if you're fantasizing about meeting someone and them

13:40

really thinking that your

13:43

the straight guy

13:45

i mean allowing them to make that assumption that

13:48

article to do that well pure gonna

13:50

make it clear to someone that this is

13:53

a hookup that you're in town for business

13:55

and you're never going to be back and you're not interested

13:57

in a relationship or relationship connection

13:59

that

13:59

just looking for sacks

14:02

well i guess it's a little less

14:04

problematic because even though you're

14:06

allowing this person

14:08

the make the assumption that you're straight

14:11

and if that person believing and sees

14:13

you as sort of a tinkerbell heterosexual

14:15

that moments if that person clapping

14:17

for you arouses

14:20

years going to make it the easier

14:22

for you do not easier for you to perform but

14:25

you're going to be able to role play

14:28

the straight guy and this person's

14:30

mistaken belief that you are that straight

14:32

guy is gonna fuel your

14:35

fantasy and it is that

14:37

okay well i guess i kind of or

14:39

maiming and hugs i kind of want to sign off on it

14:42

i don't think that your sexual orientation

14:44

is necessarily something that you have to disclose

14:47

the someone that you're gonna have a

14:50

one time sexual encounter

14:52

with and you aren't as you are discovering

14:56

higher than you thought you were in maybe

14:58

you're moving into identifying as bisexual

15:00

now and , there's nothing by

15:03

about a gay guy sitting with a trans guy with

15:05

a pussy that gays args but

15:07

you're not as interested not

15:09

as attached to man

15:11

you're interested in pussies attached to

15:14

women

15:15

and so i think your

15:17

moving toward bisexuality

15:20

perhaps a bisexual identity

15:23

and yeah yeah i guess i would sign up in this but i

15:26

would warn you that it is a small

15:28

world and this person who

15:31

is oughta tell their phone

15:33

spying on us all the times may

15:35

stumble over you on instagram and see that

15:37

you are

15:39

they identified man living a mostly

15:42

gay life all that said you also

15:44

have the option of putting it out there exactly who you are i'm are

15:46

gay dude mostly sub with gay guys been

15:48

gay dead about all this time interested

15:50

exploring sacks a one off with a woman narrow

15:52

lotta women out there that i hear from all the time

15:54

and have heard from for thirty years we'd like to get

15:57

with

15:58

the gay guy the bigger to explore

16:00

that to i don't think that

16:02

the required to explore that

16:04

only that also

16:06

definitely an option

16:08

for you and

16:11

maybe being with a woman whose

16:13

grooving on turned on by the idea

16:16

of your homosexuality or you are gay identity

16:19

would be just as exciting just as arousing

16:21

is being with a woman who had completely body

16:23

into the idea that you the guy in

16:25

front of the guy she's having this one night stand

16:27

with the guy from out of town the

16:31

straight guy

16:32

which

16:33

though isn't an assumption that women should make buttery

16:35

got the meat but the

16:37

reasonable assumption that

16:40

if you don't want to be guilty leveraging

16:42

someone's reasonable assumption against them to get

16:44

something out of them they might not have given you had

16:46

they not made that reasonable assumption

16:50

you will disclose hello dan

16:53

this is a gay man

16:56

out here in the software i'm

16:58

sixty one years old i i'm

17:00

practicing so low poly

17:02

ammo is an article non monogamy

17:06

i happen to the the

17:08

newly dating a trans man

17:10

in his fifties i have not

17:12

seen a vagina since the last time

17:15

i can remember my mother and her you

17:17

listen her vagina sixty one years

17:19

ago i already

17:21

had sex with a gay man

17:24

this is so new and out of pocket

17:26

for me i didn't know that this first

17:28

there was trail

17:30

so afraid of told me glad i did

17:32

not recoil

17:34

i am on a new adventure a my life as sixty

17:36

one and i have laden

17:38

to get to know this person

17:40

we have had that

17:43

and he told me

17:45

that

17:46

what he wrote it offers is penetration i'm

17:48

learned everything about com link

17:50

is the ,

17:53

and i'm really enjoying that however

17:56

when it's time to penetrate

17:58

i get all my here

17:59

and i can't get an erection is

18:02

happen like twice i found a conversation

18:04

with you

18:05

very rare that

18:07

he's also experiencing

18:10

having sex with assists gender

18:12

game as well the little

18:14

nervous i get up your my hair out just

18:16

wondering

18:17

how to approach this

18:19

because i really liked this guy

18:22

or really do i feel good movie together

18:24

and he likes me too but i wanna

18:26

be able to satisfy

18:29

his watch and i want to satisfy

18:31

me too though if you have clearly

18:33

advice or anything that

18:36

you could assist me with i was appreciated

18:38

very much

18:39

you know it's a funny thing i

18:41

had sex with women before

18:43

i came out when i was a teenager to can sixteen years

18:45

old the end i

18:48

could do it i could have the

18:50

ivy that little intercourse and

18:53

stay hard and get off you

18:56

know and i couldn't do i couldn't

18:58

go down i couldn't eat

19:01

pussy i couldn't engage

19:04

with the quitter is it any direct

19:07

way or another women that i had sex with

19:09

when i was a teenager had

19:12

, orgasms it

19:14

was a possible for me to to have this

19:16

kind of sucks i was really pressured into and like

19:18

culture sorry my church my family i

19:20

thought i had to learn how to have sex

19:23

with women with my first take away

19:25

the first i'm had sex with a woman was oh i can do

19:27

this can , fake this

19:29

you know because i had sex with women close my eyes and

19:31

pretended that she was

19:34

you'd think pretended she was shaun

19:36

cassidy that's how long ago was and

19:38

, as i you don't fuck with her some

19:41

or and some of the few other girls that i dated the

19:43

take away ultimately was ultimately can't

19:45

do this can't do as

19:47

for the next fifty sixty years and

19:49

it's not fair to this

19:52

woman that i'm doing this to that

19:54

i'm shutting my eyes and jacking

19:56

off inside off and is going

19:58

down on or would have liked added me from

20:00

close weeks ago since pretending that

20:02

she was a man a go directly

20:05

facing it would have

20:07

shattered my carefully constructed

20:09

a illusion the made a possible for me to perform

20:11

at all so color that you

20:14

are already exploring cunnilingus

20:16

that you're going down on your

20:18

new boyfriend it seems to me that

20:21

you've cleared the much bigger

20:23

hurdle and that if you just give yourself

20:25

a little bit more time to acclimate or

20:28

and take the pressure off your deck is either you

20:30

probably could be that you lost your action

20:32

because it's us vagina new dixon for bennett

20:34

vagina vagina but your faces to spend vagina a vagina

20:37

and if you are hard when you're faces vagina the vagina

20:39

i think you can stay hard when you're put your dick vagina the vagina

20:41

and it may just be a coincidence of you know one of those

20:44

things you know you're sixty

20:46

one i'm close sometimes you lose your bonus

20:48

for random reasons and for barbara determined

20:51

the reason here and you're attributing it to

20:53

oh because there's

20:55

vagina my decks ever been there's vagina and

20:57

i'll you're in your head about it like you said you're in

20:59

your head about it and the best

21:01

way to get outta your head about the sort of thing is

21:03

to take the pressure off and

21:06

to enjoy sex and be patient enjoy

21:08

sex with york's you partner and

21:10

and of their a boyfriend yet but enjoy sex with the

21:12

new sex partners and if

21:14

you're hard and you want to attempt penetrations

21:16

go for it you lose your actions

21:19

while attempting penetration keep

21:22

having sex to august dot voter comes

21:24

back get hard again try

21:26

again but just relax if you make

21:28

it feel like everything

21:32

closure you do this moment the sexy

21:34

having everything hinges on whether

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36:59

to i cannot come up with an

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read my whole life building a network

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i live

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five years with his boyfriend

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are doing his long distance thing as they think about

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38:51

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39:13

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39:16

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39:20

everyone and everything you know where you don't

39:22

how to drive you don't have a car i think

39:24

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39:31

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39:42

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39:47

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you know chefs cooks restauranteurs

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your possibly on the verge of having your identity

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stolen you're ever

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talking the any was and they start demanding

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anything like bitcoin it

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is a very common scam and

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that person is probably not even based

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in the united states it

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makes it even order to prosecute

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them when they have tall and your identity

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i waited

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the all of your email password

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all of your password for everything

44:11

baby even i can find credit cards

44:13

and the even thinking you

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then if you're not really

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bad trap and you need that

44:22

all communication because they start

44:24

here cause that that you're like a really nice

44:27

guy but you're being a little tonight

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and situation

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hi this is in response to the woman who called

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an episode a twenty two about

44:35

wanting a biological child but having a boyfriend

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who had two children from a previous relationship

44:40

and does not want more

44:41

aldrin i , myself

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in a similar position several years ago when i

44:45

met my husband he was in

44:47

his late forties with two young kids from

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a previous marriage i was in my mid thirties

44:52

and on the fence about having kids kids

44:55

we decided not to have our own

44:57

biological child it's obviously

45:00

a very personal decision but perspective

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from several years down the road i

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can tell you i truly feel

45:06

like i have the best of both worlds

45:09

we split custody with my husband's

45:11

ex cel have a time

45:13

when we have a kids it's wonderful

45:16

i get to indulge my parental

45:18

instincts and we do fun family

45:20

activities and the other half

45:22

of the time it's just my husband and me

45:24

husband we get to focus on our relationship

45:27

and it's been absolutely

45:29

fantastic again absolutely very

45:31

personal decision but one

45:33

of the benefits as split

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custody is the ability to just really

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focus on and grow your

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relationship and also have that time for

45:42

yourself

45:43

hi comment on episode a twenty

45:45

two the man that discovered

45:48

he's not the biological father of his four year old

45:50

if you think the bio dad has a

45:52

low chance of causing problems

45:54

are suing for custody it might be worth

45:57

reaching out and establishing communication

45:59

just the get medical history your

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child already has some medical challenges

46:05

it might be worth the risk to learn more

46:07

so you're better prepared whenever

46:10

you decide it's clear to me that this

46:12

kid is lucky to have you as their logical

46:14

sen

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