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1:15

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1:39

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2:08

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2:21

installment of Scam, goddess. It is I.

2:23

Wow. What if I just said it

2:25

is I all the time? It is

2:27

I. Lacey Mosley, aka

2:29

Scam Goddess. Welcome back, y'all. And

2:31

one, two, three, say it with

2:33

me. I am very what? Yes.

2:38

If you don't know what that blank

2:40

is, then you don't listen to this

2:42

show often enough. And I will not

2:44

tell you. But yes, guys, I am

2:46

very excited for today's guest. You

2:48

have seen her as a star of

2:50

the hit show, Andy Mack. You can

2:53

see her currently on Always Sunny in

2:55

Philadelphia. She has a film that's poppin'

2:57

on the circus right now. Y'all need

2:59

to be sure, remember, becoming any

3:01

money, okay? The girls are loving

3:03

it. I have Miss

3:06

Leland Bowden. Oh

3:09

my gosh, that intro just got me excited

3:11

about myself. I was like, I'm

3:14

so cool. That's

3:17

exactly what I want the intro to do. Sometimes

3:19

I get it right. Sometimes I get it wrong.

3:22

And everyone will always reach out to me and tell me when I got

3:24

it wrong. And they're like, you fucked up

3:26

her name. Oh, yeah. From

3:28

the episodes I've listened to, your

3:30

fans keep you... They

3:34

watch everything and they're very particular. They came

3:36

to me. Because I thought I did this.

3:38

I started doing this. I was like, oh,

3:40

this would be fun. I'm doing this for

3:42

me. And then at some point it turned.

3:45

And now it's like, if they get angry,

3:47

I'm like, I'm sorry, guys. What did I

3:49

do? You now serve them. Yeah, I'm trying

3:51

to get my power back. Yeah, the power

3:53

balance is in flux. So

3:55

it's fine. I love it. I love the enthusiasm.

3:58

Wow. Wait,

4:00

Leland, what is your relationship with scams? Like,

4:02

have you ever been scammed? Or have you

4:04

ever done a scam that you've been talking

4:06

about? I'm so glad you asked. I'm

4:10

obsessed with, like, OK, so I'll

4:12

go with my interest first and then my

4:15

experience second. Interest. I'm obsessed

4:17

with scams. I love con men. I love

4:19

cult leaders. I mean, I don't love love

4:21

them, but I love learning about them. Like,

4:24

I was all about

4:26

that Soho grifter. And

4:29

Adelphi. Oh, and Adelphi. Icon. Icon.

4:35

That documentary about that wine guy, the guy

4:37

who is just like. Rudy. Yes.

4:39

I mean, you know. You know all these things. I

4:41

talk about them like they're my old friends. I'm

4:44

like, oh, Rudy, the homie. Great drink

4:46

on deck. Yes. I'm

4:48

just, I can't get enough

4:50

of professional liars. I

4:53

just think it's great. And then

4:55

personally, I feel like the

4:58

reason why I love seeing documentaries

5:00

and stuff about like Colton's games and

5:02

stuff like that, because I'm so trusting.

5:05

Like, I feel like I am just

5:07

right there as a great target. So

5:09

it's like I have to do everything

5:11

to protect myself. But before

5:14

this podcast, I was thinking about, like,

5:16

me in

5:21

sixth grade and I ran a scam. I

5:25

was in sixth grade and I told

5:28

people that I could read fortunes by

5:31

like on their hand, not like a palm reader. I

5:33

had made up my own system. So

5:36

I remember this. Like

5:38

each tip of your finger stood for

5:40

like some type of aspect of your

5:42

life. Like the pinky was your career

5:45

and the ring was your relationship and,

5:48

you know, self, like those

5:50

those match categories. Like everybody's like 11.

5:54

Yeah. Like, yeah, 10 or 11. I

5:57

think 10. But yeah, so what do they

5:59

do? gonna do say like I didn't get

6:01

the car I wanted like 10 years later like exactly

6:03

it's time to run from this scam I like this

6:05

they can't find me I don't I charge everybody a

6:08

quarter yes and we made

6:10

some cooling we made we made some coins

6:12

and then I continued a different one in seventh grade

6:14

where I don't know if this is like a scam

6:16

scam but I think it was very smart on me

6:19

right after Easter Titsie pops

6:21

were selling for a quarter a bag because

6:24

there were Easter a theme markdown yes and

6:27

so I was like hey dad buy me

6:29

like five pounds of Titsie Pops like

6:32

or like like just like 30 pounds of Titsie

6:34

Pops like tons and tons of Titsie Pops he's

6:36

like okay and I kept

6:38

them my backpack in seventh grade and I would

6:40

sell them for a quarter each to

6:43

go wow I mean I

6:45

made I made quarter

6:47

money Lila you are a serial entrepreneur

6:49

and I love it I love the

6:51

two rather sliming Tootsies and fortunes kid

6:54

fortunes wait so do you have to do remember

6:56

any of these forces that you ever told or

6:58

what you like what types of things you

7:00

would tell the children yeah I mean it's

7:02

so weird it's like it's like someone else

7:04

was driving the car like I didn't have

7:06

any conscious thought of it's just like I

7:08

know what I'll do today maybe you were

7:10

clairvoyant maybe maybe this wasn't a scam

7:13

at all and I was just channeling

7:16

my divine powers to enlighten

7:18

these sixth grade heroes

7:21

but like so I would

7:23

like push around like I claim to

7:25

see images okay

7:29

of their fingers so like they would give me their

7:31

hand and I would kind of like kind of like

7:33

like squeeze the tip of their finger and like

7:36

move the blood vessels around and be like okay

7:38

so apparently you're going to have like three children

7:40

like one of the one of the tips of

7:42

the fingers were just for children you know

7:45

just for the children you're gonna have you

7:47

know like I mean it wasn't terribly like

7:49

thought out the girls

7:51

and experience though you're rubbing the tip of

7:53

their finger you like you know close the

7:55

ass whatever also like keys I wonder how

7:58

many people were like oh see a like

8:00

it once told me in school that I would have three

8:02

kids. Like how

8:04

many lives you changed the course of? Oh

8:07

my gosh, probably zero, like probably 100%

8:09

zero. Somebody's

8:12

holding on to that, Lela, I'm fortunate waiting for

8:14

their Porsche and their two and a half kids.

8:16

I mean, think about like, did you ever play

8:18

MASH when you were like a young one?

8:21

No, I don't dabble in the devil. See, there

8:24

you go. Well, I got mansions

8:26

all the time when I played MASH.

8:28

Sometimes I got apartments and then check

8:30

mansion apartment shack house, which is always

8:32

got check and then I saw the

8:35

cheating because then I was like, oh,

8:37

you got to just count. So I'll be like making

8:39

sure my number was like odd enough that it would

8:41

never land on check. Oh,

8:43

that's like that's also smart. That's like counting

8:45

cards. You have to think about that. Yeah,

8:48

but if you have to count that it's probably

8:50

like why you even play it if you don't

8:52

believe in the fate of it, but I always

8:54

got check and then we would do it with

8:57

random celebrities and I would always

8:59

get like Urkel or like what's

9:02

the one who bit somebody here on who's

9:04

nibbling on the ear Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson.

9:06

I always get like Mike Tyson. Oh my

9:08

gosh. I definitely I definitely

9:10

got Urkel and then and

9:12

like I wasn't a cool kid. So like

9:15

friends were like, yep, that makes sense. I

9:19

hated it. So I scammed them. Right and

9:21

now and I appreciate that. I love this scam. I

9:23

approve of this scam. Yeah, we would do it with

9:25

B2K too and I would always end up with somebody

9:27

bootleg like Razz B. Nobody

9:30

ever wanted to be with Razz

9:32

B. I mostly was his

9:35

name. Like who's not in his name? Like

9:38

a blueberry candy. Cause

9:41

it's like a little fizz who is cute.

9:43

Oh, Marianne who's the cutest in my opinion.

9:45

And J. Bug who's also cute and

9:48

then there's Razz B. Gave

9:52

him the worst name and he also

9:55

was my least favorite. Oh,

9:57

buddy. Oh, good old Razzie.

10:00

a deep cut for some of you guys. Well, I like these scamp I

10:02

think that this is very enjoyable. You may not

10:04

be as much of a mark as you think

10:06

you are if you're running these little cons. Oh

10:08

my gosh, this means so much. Well

10:13

guys, let's get into our first segment, which is what's

10:15

hot and fraud. So I'm going to share with you

10:17

a listener letter which get your

10:19

opinions all throughout. This

10:22

one comes from oh, she says insert compliments regarding

10:24

your show. Oh, thank you. So sweet. Um,

10:27

I guess I have to call this person by the

10:29

name that they put in here, but you can't figure

10:31

out who it is that easily I think but

10:33

they it's important. So I think

10:36

that's why they wrote it this way. They didn't say leave my name

10:38

out. So I'm like, okay, okay, that's my disclaimer.

10:40

Allegedly, allegedly. Okay, don't sue me. Okay. If

10:44

you sue me, I'll be showing up with my

10:47

billboard lawyer. Y'all know how I do. I'm a

10:49

cruise Hollywood Boulevard find the nearest Abugado. Okay,

10:51

and I'm gonna have a neck brace. So don't sue

10:54

me. Okay. So

10:57

I've been hesitant about emailing you my

10:59

scam as it's impossible to retire it.

11:03

Okay. But what the heck?

11:05

It's 2020, right? It

11:08

sure is. And everything's on fire.

11:10

Literally. So you

11:12

go ahead and show your scam girl. So

11:14

she said this is this scam is my

11:16

life literally unknowingly granted to me by my

11:18

parents. I'm sure you see by my

11:21

profile picture that I'm a white female. Yes,

11:24

I do. She

11:26

says I stand five feet tall on a

11:29

good day of note. I did bribe the

11:31

DMV to put that I'm 5'2 on my

11:33

driver's license, which is another scam. I admit

11:35

to engaging in I love that. I

11:37

didn't know you could lie about your height. I

11:39

could be six feet. I'm

11:42

5'1 on a good day. I'm pretty short

11:45

and I was so short that I

11:47

was close to like getting

11:49

like little people benefits. So

11:51

I didn't know that I could have because

11:54

like when you get a little bit you

11:56

can get a handicap sticker. You can get

11:58

a stipend and I was like. But

12:00

then I didn't make it like I got by the time I was

12:02

18 I was over five feet and

12:04

I think you have to be like four eight

12:06

or four eleven It was something attainable for me.

12:09

So I could have gone to the DMV and

12:11

just lied on my driver's license I've been like,

12:13

yes, I am four nine and And

12:18

And scam the government, but you know, I can't

12:20

be scamming against people so I it's fine But

12:23

I didn't know that you can do this and

12:25

now I want to maybe I could make myself

12:27

six feet tall I feel like I

12:29

have a tall personality. I could I could do that

12:31

tall personality I mean, I don't know how that would

12:33

help me in life, but maybe I

12:35

know like that's especially I feel like height

12:38

with women You're like what what what

12:40

is the? Like what what

12:42

benefits me when you know, we don't

12:45

have an ideal unless you want to be

12:47

a model There's really no ideal height for

12:49

women. However for men I do feel bad

12:51

because it's like if you're like five six

12:53

and under, you know life is hard. It's

12:55

rough It's rough out there like, you know

12:57

from my from my male friends who are

12:59

on dating after they're getting killed out there

13:01

You know like and it's just the app

13:03

you mean a guy that height in person

13:05

You're like looking for chemistry looking if you

13:07

know, they eyebrows is a if they under

13:09

the fingernails is clean You know, you look

13:11

up something like me not looking at their

13:13

height as much but on a website for

13:15

some reason height Yeah,

13:18

it's yeah. Yeah and any any

13:20

man who says that he is

13:23

Five nine is a liar five

13:25

nine is not a real height.

13:27

You heard it here first Okay,

13:29

everybody who's five nine is five

13:31

seven or lower. No

13:33

one is actually five nine Okay,

13:35

ladies and gentlemen there now, you know,

13:38

oh my gosh Whenever

13:41

I see five nine on a date nap, I'm like no

13:43

why you over here lying Liar

13:48

just tell me you five six. I like

13:50

a short king. Okay, we're gonna be down

13:52

on the ground to find a change together

13:54

Cuz I'm short, too. I Can

13:58

make that joke I'm short So

14:01

let's move on into Dr. Sharma here. So

14:05

she lied to the DMV, wonderful, I love

14:08

it. She says, I work as a nurse

14:10

practitioner, though the role of

14:12

mid-level providers is controversial, I'm lucky

14:14

enough to work in roles that

14:16

give me a significant amount of

14:18

autonomy. Okay, I mainly work in

14:20

family medicine, adolescent medicine, addiction medicine,

14:22

and psychiatry. The point I wanna

14:24

make is no, I'm not a

14:26

doctor, but yes, I know my

14:28

shit, okay. This is

14:30

gonna be very Jada Pinkett. She

14:32

had a TV show called Rn, I

14:35

think that's what it was called. Oh, it was called

14:37

Hawthorne, but then the Rn and N were capitalized,

14:39

that's what it is. Okay. So she was on

14:41

the show, and I think it got canceled, but

14:43

I always loved the idea of this show, cause

14:45

it was a nurse who like knew better than

14:47

all the doctors and was always like, cussing all

14:50

the doctors out. And I was like, Jada, this ain't a

14:52

real thing. Jada was

14:55

in the hospital, like I need 12 CCs,

14:58

I was like, you can't order medicine, you are a nurse.

15:00

She's like, get it to me now and give me a

15:02

knife. Like, I

15:05

can't with that knife. She's at the

15:07

hospital, and the nurse show up, it's gross, she's

15:09

not the good on you with some shit. Like

15:11

that's what Jada's so listen to. I

15:15

need to watch this. Oh, we were

15:17

talking earlier about like doctors not knowing everything. Maybe

15:20

you need that nurse with a knife. You

15:22

need a nurse yelling for a knife for you. It

15:24

could save your life. I think Jada Pinkett's

15:26

just showing up at all my doctor's appointments.

15:29

Like, you don't know what you're talking about. Give

15:31

me a knife. It's like,

15:35

ma'am, I just have asthma. No, the knife. We

15:38

gonna fix your asthma right now. I'm

15:40

your nurse. And

15:44

this is no shapes and nurses at all cause it's

15:47

a hard job and it's a lot of schooling. I'm

15:49

just saying that show cracked me up cause she was

15:51

like, when I tell you there's never been a show

15:53

that was more like book doctors. Oh,

15:55

that's so funny. I wish I

15:57

had said it all. I thought it was hilarious. Is

16:01

it I haven't watched Hawthorne is

16:03

it's not supposed to be hilarious though,

16:05

right? No, no, no No,

16:07

you know, I'm looking I'm like I'm looking

16:09

at there like the screenshot of it You're

16:11

so right in tone. Like I don't know.

16:14

Can you see this on my dirty phone? Not really? Yes Yeah,

16:16

like she's running with like a tank

16:19

top on and her like shirt her

16:21

doctor lab coat busting open With like

16:23

name tags just like flying in the

16:25

wind. She's got a pager on her

16:28

skinny jeans and she She's

16:30

running to get an old And

16:41

I love that they had to make it sexy they're like her

16:43

lab coat bustles in the wind as

16:45

her breasticles Her

16:47

name tag flap up and

16:49

down like what is this? I

16:52

have never seen nobody in a wife beater at

16:54

the if you show up to my hospital room

16:56

in a wife beater Also

17:02

like in mid stride too, so it's like slapping behind

17:04

her like a cape You

17:13

need breaks I love it

17:15

so Dr. Sharma, I feel

17:17

you she said I know my shit. Okay

17:19

many doctors. I'm sure are well-meaning no shade

17:22

to doctors Most of you are great But

17:24

refuse to consult with anyone whose name

17:26

is a followed by MD or DO Lucky

17:30

for me and my straight-off-the-plane

17:32

from Ireland mom's heritage My

17:34

first name is Sharma in Ireland

17:36

is short for Sharon plus Mary

17:39

in India It's a very common

17:41

surname Historically specialized as priests teachers

17:44

and protectors of sacred learning across

17:46

generations. Someone did their Google's Wow

17:49

Wow Wow She said I listed

17:51

the quote straight from Wikipedia I Never

17:57

correct anyone when they call me doctor or

18:00

Sharma. It's assumed it's my

18:02

last name. Families think I'm fancy.

18:04

Doctors will take my calls and

18:06

my patients have another obstacle removed

18:08

from their access to care. Win-win

18:11

question mark? I hope. Also, if anyone wants to

18:13

ask why I didn't go to medical school, feel

18:15

free to ask me about being a young single

18:17

mother at 19 and finding an

18:19

unrealistic to spend $250,000 in

18:22

debt in addition to taking care of another human.

18:24

I love being a nurse and I'm grateful and

18:26

I'm able to graduate school and become a nurse

18:28

practitioner. Luckily, I'm very cynical now 13 year

18:31

old and I do it. Just fine,

18:33

fine, fine, fine. I blame a lot

18:36

of that on mine. Okay. Okay girl,

18:38

we got to a special moment here

18:40

at the end, but I do. Sometimes,

18:46

you know, you write a letter, but also you just

18:48

want to, you want to be able to just like

18:50

say some things, you know, conclusion all my life I

18:52

had to fight. Okay, friends.

19:00

Um, it's interesting because I've

19:02

seen this done before. I've done this myself.

19:04

My name is Lacey Mosley. Not a lot

19:06

of people will assume that's black. So I

19:08

mean, it's opposite here because this is a

19:10

white woman, but I would have definitely let

19:12

people assume that I was white until like

19:14

the very last moment. Really

19:16

interesting because like, like a, like

19:19

a doctor is like a definable thing.

19:22

But like, like I could imagine someone

19:24

being like, Oh, I thought you were

19:26

a doctor. Like, but do people say

19:28

to you, I thought you were wet.

19:31

Mostly with their eyes, you know, like

19:34

they open the door and then they get a little

19:36

wider like, Hey, and then they ask me like, are

19:38

you lazy? And I'm like, y'all, well,

19:40

I don't know

19:43

if I'm talking about this on this show. I just have

19:45

many podcasts, but, um, I used to

19:47

babysit and I had a babysitting service in my

19:49

neighborhood and so my parents ruined it. Shout

19:51

out to them. Um,

19:54

my business.

19:56

Oh, wait, wait, wait. I don't want

19:59

to tangent But like how did your

20:01

parents ruin your okay? I'll tell you how they remember

20:03

my business ties into this I

20:05

would leave these little door tags I just printed off

20:07

a computer paper and cut and put a little rubber

20:09

band through On people's door knob

20:11

now this is back in the day when you

20:13

off you advertise your babysitter service to your local

20:16

neighbors Right and you know you didn't have to

20:18

be on care now. You didn't have to have

20:20

a Certificate of CPR

20:22

you know you didn't have to pass the

20:24

background check You just had to be

20:26

like 13 and people will leave your kids

20:29

with you Simple

20:31

time Are you

20:33

13 and a woman? One

20:39

of them needs insulin you'll figure it out They

20:43

just leave they'll tell you which

20:45

one needs insulin just leave yeah,

20:47

you get it. We call them

20:50

fainty you'll see I Think

20:53

we're gonna give a fuck who they left their kids with so

20:56

I would leave these little tags And then when

20:58

people call me I kind of coast which I

21:00

think hi Yeah, this is Lacey

21:02

and then I show up. I buy a

21:04

what's up. What up? He is it yeah?

21:06

Where's Franky? So

21:10

I used to do this and then by the time

21:12

they were ready and made their plans to go out

21:14

my black ass already There's so they back to you

21:16

know let me in and let me have snacks The

21:21

reason that this ended was because I had cheerleading

21:23

tryouts once and I got called back

21:25

and so I couldn't go Babysit like I was supposed

21:27

to so I sent a friend Because

21:30

I'm telling you in these times if you were 13.

21:32

I just sent another black 13 year old over there

21:34

I was like I'm home my homegirl don't come over

21:36

there Erin. She's gonna babysit your kids and I

21:39

was up, but I'm sorry. I was like a

21:41

good business person sauce like the next time I

21:43

babysit for you It'll be free okay, so cut

21:45

to our babysit for them Fuckers

21:49

leave at 7 o'clock They don't

21:51

come back so like 1 30 in

21:53

the morning. I have all the sleep remind you I'm

21:55

13 14 years old right fall

21:57

in The sleep in one of the little girls, babe

22:00

And my parents are blowing me the fuck up their

22:02

pits. And so they caught and I was like, Oh,

22:04

they haven't come home yet. And my mom's like, they

22:06

have to come home. I'm about to call CPS. I

22:08

was like, Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Oh my

22:11

gosh. She was like, who do they think they are?

22:13

They got my black baby. I heard working like we

22:15

need they money. We don't need they money. And

22:17

so I love your mom. Yeah, I left

22:20

and the dad like gave me all the

22:22

money in his wallet when he got back.

22:24

I could tell he was visibly drunk and

22:26

then they didn't drive me home. I walked

22:28

home. I lived like a couple streets away

22:30

and it's like the suburbs is super safe. At least I felt like

22:32

I was. But when I showed up at my parents' store said my

22:34

mom was like, I didn't

22:36

drop you. Oh,

22:40

so I went upstairs and thought it was all

22:42

over and I went to bed. Turns out my

22:44

parents had drove back over there. Oh,

22:49

them out. It

22:52

was like, we don't need your fucking money.

22:54

She will not be babysitting for you ever

22:56

again. A

22:58

mess. And then they told the whole

23:00

neighborhood, ruin my babysitter. Sorry, Sharon. Oh

23:03

my gosh. You know, I got to say, though, it

23:05

is so heartening to hear

23:08

a mom go to bat for

23:10

her kid like that. I

23:13

feel like my mom would be like, what are you doing? My

23:17

mom always, always would side

23:19

with whoever else. It

23:22

didn't matter who they were or if what they

23:24

did or anything, she'd be like, what did

23:28

you do wrong? It

23:31

was like, I never, I never could

23:33

win. And so just hearing that

23:35

like your mom was like, we don't need

23:37

your money. Like it's so like, I

23:39

love that. Yeah. After

23:41

that, I got an allowance because I think they were trying to be

23:44

like, oh, we don't want to spoil you. Like you have to know

23:46

the value of hard work. But after that, they just started giving me

23:48

money. They're like, you ain't working for these white folks. You are not

23:50

these places. You know

23:52

the value of hard work. You're fine. You're fine. You

23:55

have the money. So you went over to their house at

23:57

2am and gave them a slavery speech. And now my business

23:59

is shut down. Thanks guys. I'm so sorry

24:01

about your business, but I love know everything

24:03

else about the story. I love everything money

24:07

I would rather have free money for my parents any

24:09

day and I respect and love their choices And I

24:11

think they're hilarious It was just funny to me because

24:13

I never found out from them that they wouldn't cut

24:15

them out I found out from like one of my

24:17

other clients. Oh My gosh,

24:20

that's I mean, I just think that's

24:22

amazing I like coming

24:24

from like a family whose

24:26

parents are very Uncontreventational

24:28

and like also I think it's like kind of

24:30

like an Asian thing where it's like you mistrust

24:33

your child and you trust all adults You

24:35

know like so so it's just like

24:38

oh, this is fun. This is fun to hear

24:40

for me I love it My parents had

24:42

that too until it was very clear

24:44

that because of where we live There's

24:46

so much racism that they couldn't trust

24:48

anybody else So then it became

24:50

like me and my parents loved to like my

24:52

parents threatened to through sue the school board boy

24:55

Wow about it This

24:58

is I'm loving all of it Racism

25:01

to me and my parents really felt especially

25:03

my mother felt the need to be like

25:05

ah, we have lawyers That's

25:09

how she talks at all but um,

25:11

she's amazing I you know what

25:13

I got lucky but um I

25:16

mean the other the other Under the

25:18

spectrum is you could get parents who are just

25:20

like please just do what the white people do

25:22

which is like Very like like I'm more familiar

25:24

with that Right,

25:26

please mate like please

25:29

please like just be nice to

25:31

the white people And

25:34

that's survival. You know, we all have had

25:36

to do that because it's just simply

25:38

survival So I fully understand

25:40

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hood wings this is when I will regale

28:58

Miss Leland with a very famous concaper. Maybe

29:00

a scammer worthy of our praise we'll see.

29:03

I never know until the end. We'll get

29:05

her thoughts all throughout she'll interject she'll ask

29:07

questions that I may or may not

29:09

have the answer to. That's why we

29:11

have Google and if not I may make it

29:13

up but I always tell you guys when I

29:15

make things up. It's just to be fair. I

29:19

want you

29:22

guys to have an accurate quote at dinner parties

29:24

that you go to. Okay

29:27

so today we're talking

29:29

about Kari Farrell. She's

29:32

a 20-something social life that scammed her

29:34

way around Salt Lake City and Brooklyn.

29:36

Her scamming consisted of using aggressive sex

29:38

appeal. Aggressive sex

29:40

appeal. Okay very

29:43

interesting to see what aggressive

29:45

sex appeal spells out and

29:47

wild lies to get

29:49

money, event admission,

29:51

and social status. Okay

29:55

let's let Leland see a picture of

29:57

Kari Farrell. So as a teenager Kari

30:00

was 17 at

30:02

the time. She would hang out in Salt Lake

30:05

City on the straight-edge scene. Do you know

30:07

what straight-edge is? It's like you

30:10

don't, you aggressively don't do drugs and like

30:14

drink liquor and then you also beat people up who

30:17

do? I think. I don't know. Yeah, I'm like

30:19

how do you aggressively not do drugs? Like I

30:21

know how you aggressively do drugs. Like,

30:23

you're sitting in a house every day

30:26

like I'm sober. I'm sober.

30:28

Well, you have to go out and oppose

30:30

your will on others is my understanding of

30:33

people who are like aggressive straight-edge. You know,

30:35

they're like nobody, nobody does drugs. You go

30:38

to bars and just like judge people

30:40

like, oh, you buying another shot? From

30:42

like my, from my not,

30:44

I mean this could be outdated information or

30:46

just incorrect. But like, I do

30:48

think that like a lot of like, like

30:51

a lot of strangers, people start fights.

30:53

Like they like literally just start fights. You

30:56

know, I guess you got to get your aggression out somehow

30:58

if you're not going to pick a vice. I

31:00

know that there it is. Okay, so here

31:02

she is. She hung

31:04

out on the straight ledge. Yeah, she's a cutie.

31:07

So she was hanging out on the

31:09

straight-edge scene aggressively not doing drugs

31:12

or alcohol. That's

31:14

where she met Casey Hanson. Oh,

31:17

that name who was a couple

31:19

of years older than her. She just

31:21

kind of messaged me out of nowhere

31:24

commenting on my MySpace profile picture. That's

31:26

what Hanson said. So,

31:28

Kari told Hanson that she

31:30

was 18 and

31:32

had graduated from high school that year even

31:34

though her driver's license said she was 17.

31:37

So I love this coming back to

31:39

the driver's license, especially since

31:41

the DMV lets you hook it up because

31:43

I didn't know you could make changes. I

31:45

think they just don't chat. Like, I

31:47

mean, no one, no one there loves, loves

31:50

what they do. No one's passionate about

31:52

working at the DMV? you

32:00

know, spray and being like, today

32:02

is a winner for

32:04

me. I used to think that the DMV

32:06

was a hater job, but after

32:08

spending an extensive amount of time

32:10

there for many traffic violations and

32:13

refusals to register my car, I

32:17

will not, I will not.

32:19

I would want a, what

32:21

is it, one of the straightest people there, they're

32:24

aggressively not drinking. So

32:27

I was aggressively refusing to register my

32:29

car. And I used to have an

32:31

old lady who I would go to every time I forget

32:33

her name, but it

32:35

took me so long to register my

32:37

car that by the time I came

32:39

for like the last time, I was

32:41

like, Oh, where's Ms. Sawesaw? Cause she

32:43

already know my history. They're like, girl,

32:45

she retired. I was like,

32:47

what? She was so happy. That's

32:50

right. That's probably why she was hooking it up. Cause she

32:52

would give me permits on permits I

32:54

had so many operating permits taped to my fucking car.

32:58

You know, I will say, I think I've

33:00

seen the one person who I saw it, I think

33:02

likes being in the DMV. I just like everything expired

33:04

at once. My car broke down and my license expired

33:06

and I wasn't able to go online to get it

33:09

renewed, even though I could have. And like there

33:11

was, and also like during quarantine, you can't get

33:14

anybody on the phone. They cut out, like

33:16

they shut down all the phone lines. Which

33:18

seems like the thing that's the safest to be

33:20

on. Yeah. Like, oh, it's quarantine. We

33:23

can't have no phone calls. You should

33:25

only, yeah, like it should only be

33:27

phoned, but no, it's, it's three hours

33:29

in the sun. That's, that's the new

33:32

way to talk to anybody at

33:34

the DMV is three hours in the sun. But

33:37

like there was a guy there who was in

33:40

a knee high boots, like

33:42

knee high military boots. And

33:45

in like, this was a hot, hot

33:47

day. And he was just strolling out and

33:49

like he would hang out inside. And finally,

33:51

when I got inside the, where I had

33:53

to wait in my like segregated, like little

33:55

square away from everybody, you know, like

33:57

he was like right next to me. And And

34:00

I was like, so do you ride a motorcycle or

34:02

do you ride horses or something? He was like, figure out

34:04

why he got all these boots. I

34:06

mean, these boots were so outrageous, you

34:09

know, and like otherwise, extremely normal dude,

34:11

extremely, extremely normal looking dude, like not

34:13

like a punk style thing, you know,

34:16

and he was like, No, I love

34:18

boots. I have I have about 50

34:20

pairs just like these. Wow.

34:23

He's like the Albert Einstein of

34:25

boots. He just his whole thing

34:27

was he loved boots and

34:30

he loved big knee high boots, does

34:32

not do an activity that corresponds with those boots.

34:35

The rest of the wardrobe does not match. I

34:38

love it. And looks like he was on

34:40

a great time. The one person, the one that's all

34:42

that matters as long as he's having a

34:44

great time. We're pleased. Well,

34:46

so she said that her driver's license was

34:48

wrong because she is 17. But

34:51

don't worry, girl. I'm 18. Okay.

34:54

So, Karri said that the reason her driver's

34:56

license was weird is because her birth certificate

34:58

is a little off and she had been

35:00

adopted from South Korea. So she had a

35:03

whole backstory as to why it's not the

35:05

right age. That summer, Karri

35:07

Ferrell moved in with him and shortly

35:10

got a fraud alert from her bank account

35:12

saying that someone tried to cash a check

35:14

of hers. So this is Casey Hanson. She

35:16

was like, Hey, Casey, I'm definitely 18 and

35:19

not a minor. And

35:21

I just graduated from high school. And I live in

35:23

your home. And Casey

35:25

said yes. So

35:27

as soon as she moved in,

35:30

the bank is like, Hey, Karri,

35:32

girl, something weird is going on with

35:34

your bank account says. So

35:36

because of this, she wasn't able to pay rent

35:38

for a bit. So she told Casey, like, Hey,

35:41

the bank called and said that I tried to

35:43

deposit a fake check. So I actually can't get,

35:45

you know, rent right now. Okay.

35:48

So the first light scam. So

35:52

a few months later, she told Hanson that she was

35:54

finally able to access the money that she hadn't been

35:56

able to get because of the previous fraud on her

35:59

account. started depositing all these

36:01

checks into my account, literally depositing $300,

36:03

$500, and

36:05

$1,100 at a time. So this is Kasey talking.

36:09

Kasey says that Kari kept saying she

36:11

couldn't use her ATM card, telling him,

36:13

you cash these checks and give me

36:15

the money. Oh, Kari! This is the

36:17

oldest scam in the book. And

36:19

I talked about this on, you

36:22

hear me talk about it on a different

36:24

episode too, but my little sister felt prey

36:26

to this scam. So no, it was an

36:28

accident. But guys, if anybody tells you they

36:31

can't deposit checks in their bank account, or,

36:33

oh, you know, my bank account

36:35

not working right now, can I use yours? Never

36:37

let anyone use your bank account. That's the weirdest

36:39

thing. That's like somebody saying, oh, my toothbrush not

36:41

working right now, can I use yours? There's some

36:43

things that should only be for you. Yeah, like,

36:46

yeah, like a toothbrush, I would

36:48

lend a toothbrush and be like, keep it, but like

36:50

the bank account is like, that's like, yeah,

36:53

anyway, anyway, I'm wrong myself. My self

36:55

security number. Can I use yours? Yes.

36:58

Like, I just need to borrow your social. No, it's

37:00

gonna be

37:02

cool. Just real quick. Let me have it.

37:05

So he should have known better. One

37:08

day Kari gave Chris Hansen, welcome Chris Hansen. Now

37:10

his name is Casey Hansen. I just don't like

37:12

that name. I don't know why. So

37:14

one day Kari gave Hansen a check for $1,200 and he

37:17

asked the bank teller, are

37:19

these good? I assume they are because you

37:21

guys just keep giving me money and you're

37:23

a bank, but can you check on this?

37:26

And the teller said that they were good. Okay,

37:31

I appreciate him asking about it. But I mean,

37:34

if the bank is giving you money, I was

37:36

just not asked no question. Right.

37:38

Like that's how you know, it's good is

37:40

that you get money. If it's

37:43

bad, you don't. So

37:45

this went on for a total

37:47

of $10,600 before the bank belatedly

37:49

realized that the checks were written

37:51

from an account that wasn't even

37:53

open. Damn. Okay, I'm sorry. If

37:55

we're sending the whole that's when

37:57

we got the call to F.

38:00

the D, the I, and the C, because I will

38:02

not be giving you this $10,000. Y'all

38:04

need to call it. It is in the banking shirt. Okay,

38:06

you better get Jake from all state on the phone or

38:09

whoever. Jake

38:11

from State Farm, bitch, or the black man from 24.

38:14

Okay, Flo, you better call her because I'm not

38:16

giving you $10,000 back. I

38:19

know she just works in cars, but Shirley Flo

38:22

has been on the scene. She

38:25

knows people, she can call people. Progressive, progressive soup. I

38:28

don't care who y'all have to call, but you're not

38:30

getting it from me. It's

38:33

not, no, no, no, no. Also, I wish

38:35

that he had recorded this conversation that he had with the

38:37

bank tellers. I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, your check's

38:40

good. But still, you

38:42

were not. So he

38:44

tried to break up with her, Kari.

38:46

That's when she told him she had

38:48

cancers. And then later on

38:50

that she was pregnant. Oh,

38:53

no, she just threw the kitchen sink. She

38:56

did everything. She was like, I have cancer and a baby.

38:59

And also I have

39:01

your social and you

39:03

have mine. Right.

39:06

She's like,

39:09

I have a restless leg appointment. Then I got

39:11

to go to oncology. Then I got to go

39:13

to the OBGYN. And also

39:15

my teeth don't work. I need your teeth. Also,

39:18

then I'm going to the dentist. Did I have these

39:20

ailments before you said you wanted to break up? No. Okay.

39:24

I found out that I have a baby. I'm so

39:26

sorry. And

39:28

the baby also has cancer. So I'm going to need extra money.

39:31

And I was never even joking about that. You don't want that

39:33

doo-doo out there. Shout out to the people who

39:35

are battling it, y'all, because it's

39:37

tough. So

39:41

she told him all the lies she could think of. And

39:44

then the day after Kari turned 21

39:46

in February 2008, she went to jail

39:48

for fraud for three months. So

39:50

guessing that's the fraud of those checks that

39:52

she was writing from the bank account that

39:54

was never open. I love that she got

39:56

up to 10K before they realized though. That's

39:58

a lot of money. money for the bank

40:01

to be like, oh, yeah, actually, we were. Oops.

40:04

Oh, yeah. No, it's so wild how much it

40:06

seems like, you know, like, because Soho Grifter has

40:09

all the Ann Adelvie, like, has had that whole

40:11

thing too. We're all like, she

40:13

was just getting by on fraud and fumes

40:15

where like, she would just be mad. She'd

40:17

be like, I'm, I'm a heiress, right? And

40:19

like, and they'd be like, okay, sorry, here's

40:22

like 100K. Right. They

40:24

were like, yeah, I'm gonna pay for this

40:26

hotel with wire transfer eventually. Yeah.

40:28

And they're like, okay, she's just so mad.

40:30

I guess we'll just let that happen. But

40:33

you know, like, like, I

40:35

see, I feel like there's an episode where

40:37

you talk about like either this or a

40:40

version of it. But I remember when I

40:42

was like, um, a barista still and just

40:44

hanging out with all of my other barista

40:46

friends and there isn't, um, a savings account

40:48

that any of us have, you

40:50

know, and we're talking about how do we pay rent?

40:52

And one of my friends had this great idea. He's

40:54

like, you know what you do? Do

40:56

this advice always. Write a check to yourself.

40:59

And then it'll, and like, if you're like kind

41:01

of in a money transition and so then the

41:04

bank thinks that you have extra money and then

41:06

you can use that in between time before they

41:08

realize their error to like,

41:11

uh, so like, so you can

41:13

like start, right? So you

41:15

don't go negative. Yeah. Like, because banks

41:17

charge people for being poor. If you like, I

41:19

know Bank of America, it's $35 for each

41:21

overdraft fee. And if your accounts overdraft

41:23

it and anything else hits like a

41:26

recurring payment, auto pay, they charge you

41:28

another 35 and it's so predatory. It's

41:30

so gross. And a lot of banks

41:32

do it. Um, and, and what's

41:34

interesting to me about this is like, uh, so I'm

41:36

going to note the timeframe here. This is February, 2008

41:39

when she got pinched, right? So

41:41

the housing crisis, you

41:43

know, a little bit before that. So the

41:46

banks were awesome books, shit right then anyway.

41:48

You know what I mean? Like, I feel

41:50

like just like every bank was doing a

41:52

lot of coke and, um, really loving balloon

41:54

payments and, and having a good old story.

41:56

Sure. Sure. Go nuts. Right. And

41:58

this fraud, even though. fraud has been

42:01

going on for forever, this specific

42:03

kind has been harder. It's

42:05

still hard right now for the banks to

42:07

flag immediately. It takes some time. And by

42:09

the time the bank has realized, they're probably

42:11

already gone. And a lot of

42:14

times your bank will flag a

42:16

check now if it's over a thousand dollars, but if

42:18

it's right under that at like 800, if it's installments

42:21

of smaller amounts of money, they can't flag it

42:23

as quick and then you can get them coins

42:25

and be on your way. You know what I

42:27

mean? So I'm sure by the time car you

42:30

had robbed people, all they could find was the back of

42:33

her head because she was in the, she said it the

42:35

other direction. She was moving. She was going. So when

42:37

she got out of jail,

42:40

she found a new roommate and

42:42

friend she'd known for several years.

42:44

And according to Hanson, she scammed the new

42:47

guy out of $3,000. This is when she

42:49

started telling people

42:51

that she was working for Golden Force,

42:54

a company that does Coachella and that

42:56

she was soon going to transfer to

42:58

New York. Now,

43:01

let's see. Why

43:04

would she go to New York to work for Coachella? I

43:06

guess Coachella station in New York. I would assume

43:09

that was a Los Angeles thing. I don't know

43:11

exactly where Coachella is planned. You know what? This

43:13

is very clever because it's like, if you give

43:15

to a person two pieces

43:17

of conflicting information, they may

43:19

not just ask questions. You know,

43:21

if it's like, she was like, Oh,

43:24

I'm going to Coachella and I'm going to be

43:26

like leaving soon in California. People are like, Oh,

43:28

where you know, like they have a frame of

43:30

reference, but she gets them off the game, right?

43:32

It's like, I'm going to go to Coachella, but

43:34

I'm transferring to New York. It's a whole thing.

43:36

People think it's a whole thing. And then I asked.

43:39

Yeah, it's a whole thing. You used to

43:41

just be like, long story short, but now

43:43

it's like, it's a whole thing is all

43:45

my lies are bundled into. And

43:48

there you go. Right. I'm

43:50

thinking most of their venues are

43:53

on the West Coast. So yeah, I don't

43:55

know if Golden Voice is in New

43:58

York, but you know what, girl, I appreciate these. lies.

44:00

I will continue. So

44:04

this is mostly just paraphrased from the observers so

44:06

shout out to Dori Schaffrier. Sorry if I said

44:08

that wrong but shout out to you. So this

44:12

is scamming vice. So after she told all

44:14

these lies and got all these coins from

44:16

just regular everyday Joe Schmoes who were probably

44:19

just very enamored because remember, Kari is fine.

44:22

She moved on. So

44:25

now she's scamming vice. Kari

44:27

walked into the vice magazine office in Williamsburg

44:29

Brooklyn to interview for an administrative assistant job.

44:32

They thought that they had hit the jackpot.

44:34

So remember she said she was moving to

44:36

New York even though she was working for

44:38

Coachella and then she went to vice. Okay

44:41

so one of these lies is like

44:44

a soft one. She did move. She

44:47

actually did move. For a job.

44:50

She self-transferred. Yeah.

44:52

You know how one is self-employed.

44:57

She's just she's self-employed transferred

44:59

to an employment. Okay.

45:02

You get it. So Kari,

45:05

very racist description I don't. Kari,

45:07

petite 22 years old of Korean

45:09

heritage, had a huge tattoo of

45:12

a phoenix across her chest and

45:14

a cute tixie haircut. She was

45:16

socketed, funny, charming and adorable. She

45:18

had a tattoo on her back

45:20

that read, I love beards. Oh

45:27

wow. She quirky,

45:29

quirky. Now I love

45:34

beards on your back sis. Okay.

45:37

Okay. I

45:39

like beards too. I don't like them that much. So but you

45:42

know if you do. So she told them

45:45

that she had been working for a

45:47

concert promotion company Golden Voice in New

45:49

York and they hired her on the

45:51

spot. Okay so there must be a New

45:53

York office at Golden Voice. A few days later

45:55

and I mean she looks the part of someone

45:58

who works for Coachella. You know. Sure. and

46:00

tattoo. She's got the ironic I love beard.

46:02

This feels like a girl who would have

46:04

that mustache tattoo on her finger and then

46:07

like put it under her nose. Remember when

46:09

that was a thing that everyone was getting

46:11

that I know so many people have a

46:13

finger mustache tattoo. Oh my

46:15

gosh, you know, I was like, through

46:17

like Andy Mack, like sometimes I just

46:19

be in conversations with teens at that

46:21

point, where people were talking about like,

46:23

Oh, I gotta get a little finger

46:25

mustache tattoo. And I was desperately trying

46:27

to be like, this feels really good

46:29

at 16. And I guarantee you, you

46:31

will be so upset in like a

46:33

year from now. So three months, three

46:35

months, you'll be sad tattoos. I'm like,

46:37

okay, clothing. Yeah.

46:42

Cause you can take that off. We all look like a

46:44

dumbass in Jout fits in the early 2000s, but I

46:46

can't take off a fad tattoo. Like I remember

46:48

Rihanna got the stars behind her ear going all

46:50

the way down and then all the bitches had

46:52

to have some stars on they neck. And I'm

46:54

like, are you going to want those? A lot

46:57

of people love their tattoos. And some people like

46:59

to get impulsive tattoos, which I think is so

47:01

cool. They just go in the shop and pick

47:03

something, which I'm like, you know what? Oh yeah.

47:05

I feel like, I mean, real

47:08

statistic, absolutely not. But if I had to make

47:10

up one, I would say 50% of tattoos are

47:14

impulsive, impulsive tattoos based off

47:16

of nothing. I'm not going to doubt

47:18

that. I don't know. I think

47:20

it is real. I think this might be

47:22

made of statistics. Probably definitely. I believe it.

47:24

And I've always imagined myself in another life

47:27

or maybe this, you will see I'm just

47:29

having little tiny tattoos. I've got so many

47:31

hot little friends with like little tiny tattoos

47:33

that are like, I'm a bad girl, little

47:35

tatty, little tiny tats. They

47:38

get them like on the wrist and

47:40

in the inside of the arm and like, Ooh,

47:42

like they're just little secrets for you and me.

47:44

Oh, I've tried.

47:46

Like I've, I've thought like, yeah, I

47:48

could get a tattoo. That'd be fun.

47:51

You know, and never like how I

47:53

know fad tattoos like happened because they're

47:55

like a, like a cousin of

47:57

impulsive tattoos, right? Like, you know, if impulsive

48:00

and you see things happening in the

48:02

world you're like yeah why not the

48:04

only time that I got extremely close

48:06

to getting a tattoo of I don't

48:09

know I just made the

48:11

decision to get it is I have

48:13

done a sci-fi film with um do you

48:15

know the actress Taryn Manning um

48:17

she she plays pensitucky on Orange

48:19

is the New Black oh yeah she's

48:22

great she's great yeah so we did

48:24

this really like you know uh like

48:26

like just like a sci-fi channel film

48:28

um and we had like a

48:31

cast party and everybody just

48:33

like we were drinking and having fun

48:35

and we were walking past the tattoo

48:37

shop and Taryn was like um

48:39

oh shall we get tattoos shall

48:43

we like I mean

48:46

I don't know that's

48:48

maybe not verbatim shall

48:51

I invite you to a tattoo

48:53

catching um but like the

48:56

atmosphere was so perfect I was like

48:58

yeah absolutely gotta

49:00

get tattoos and fortunately like it was like

49:03

two in the morning and yet still the

49:05

wait to get a tattoo was like two

49:07

hours oh wow so then you

49:09

had time to sober up get tired yeah

49:11

and once I heard two in the morning

49:13

I was like two hours from now I

49:15

was like oh definitely not a tattoo definitely

49:17

not but I was about to get it

49:19

like Taryn Manning suggested tattoos

49:22

and I was like 100% I mean absolutely

49:24

I did not know that it would

49:26

be I feel like if

49:28

they'd had the needle ready you'd have a tattoo if you'd

49:30

walked in the guy was like fresh needle 100%

49:33

I'd be with a tattoo right

49:36

now and it would be so

49:39

the only thing I know about it is that I would regret

49:41

it there's nothing I could get that I I

49:43

don't think I'd regret I know what you

49:45

mean I was watching a show called trinkets on

49:47

netbooks because I'm watching everything on netbooks now

49:49

and it's about these like beautiful girls who

49:51

steal and um because they steal

49:54

because they're in pain in their little

49:56

lives um and it's cute but they

49:58

go to a party that's like this big hip college

50:00

party and there's just someone doing stick poke tattoos on

50:02

the front porch and they all get one and I'm

50:04

like Okay It

50:09

could have been me You know,

50:11

I I am like prime demographic

50:14

for that to accidentally happen Like

50:18

I don't know how I got this tattoo everyone said

50:20

they said shall we and then and then next thing

50:22

I know I have My arm out what what do

50:24

you expect? They asked lightly and I was having a

50:26

great time So

50:28

she looks the part right so vice

50:30

is like, oh she looks so cool

50:32

She just worked for Coachella like we're

50:34

definitely hiring her So a few days

50:36

later on the job one of Miss

50:38

Ferrell's new colleagues came by her desk

50:40

and this is all a quote from

50:42

him So he said he came over

50:44

and he said, excuse me, miss is

50:46

your boss downstairs? And then

50:49

she kari thought that that

50:51

was very polite that he said, excuse me

50:53

miss Okay, y'all basic is booked and

50:56

after that she started talking to

50:58

him instant message in him and

51:00

then it Escalated from there. I

51:03

want to know what's your aim

51:05

like off-screen password is Probably

51:07

work instant message, right? Cuz I didn't nobody don't

51:09

aim no more, right? I mean like what I can't

51:11

imagine Like

51:14

no one says instant message now, you know,

51:16

like so what kind of platform? It's

51:19

gotta be one of those office ones because I know they

51:21

had those and then they talk in the little office chats

51:23

on there so some kind of message

51:26

an office chat Slacker

51:28

whatever the fuck honey, right? I don't work in

51:30

an office Y'all

51:33

shut up your favorite office in the

51:35

messaging services. I Want

51:37

to know so within a half

51:39

hour. She was asking him questions about

51:41

his sexual history How many women he'd

51:43

slept with and so on he says

51:45

she was coming on to me and

51:48

I was super Into it the first

51:50

part of it. He says then

51:52

he realized I could have fun after

51:54

work But then I was like, let

51:57

me check this girl out. So basically

51:59

his whole The 20 man voice was like,

52:01

we're at work. But then his penis was like,

52:03

yeah, but we want it. And then

52:06

he was like, but what about work? And they were like,

52:08

but what about me? Your penis. I

52:11

love that the penis voice is also kind of

52:13

like a cartoon 20s gangster. Yeah,

52:16

what about me? But what

52:18

about me? Your penis. So

52:21

he decides to check her out. Now

52:23

see, this is what I don't understand. Cause this gives

52:25

me like hater vibes. Like if you thought the girl

52:27

was cute and you was trying to talk to her,

52:30

why you googling her? Don't you just get on Instagram? Okay,

52:33

so this is what 2009, I'm guessing Instagram

52:36

was around, right? No, I went,

52:39

I don't think it was. So,

52:41

okay. So this is probably

52:44

pre-Instagram or at least pre-Instagram

52:46

height where everyone has a

52:48

profile. Everyone has like a

52:50

significant amount of information online.

52:53

So he did a Google on this, which

52:56

I'm like, damn. If

52:58

we had Instagram, she probably would have gotten away

53:00

because he would have just went on the gram,

53:03

clicked around. I like to click on people's tagged

53:05

photos to see who they really are. Ooh,

53:08

yes, the tag photo section. That's

53:10

where you know. Tag

53:12

photos and captions. Like look, we all went through

53:14

a phrase where every caption was just a Drake

53:16

lyric. I don't fault you for that. But some

53:18

of y'all, y'all begin out here

53:20

trying to give me a whole inspirational speech

53:23

when you know this picture is about your

53:25

swimsuit body. Like, please stop. Just

53:28

post a quote then. I'll read the quote. I

53:30

like quotes. Like,

53:33

how you looking at picture with your,

53:35

you bent over with your cheeks out

53:37

talking about some, you know, God throws

53:39

many challenging things away. And during this

53:41

quarantine, I've made a lot of self-discovery.

53:43

And I'm like, yeah, I'm making self-discovery too with

53:45

your booty hole. And I didn't plan on doing that today.

53:50

They didn't plan it. Anyway, so

53:53

he Googled her. And he

53:55

found a photo of her on Salt

53:57

Lake City Police Department's most wanted list.

54:00

this, wanted on five different

54:02

warrants, including passing $60,000 in bad

54:04

checks, forgery, and retail

54:08

fees. Wow. Wow.

54:11

Wow. Kari was only employed

54:13

at Vice for about half the week, but it

54:15

was a busy one, according to a Vice employee.

54:17

This employee says, we found out that she had

54:19

been calling up clubs saying she wanted to be

54:21

on the list, was from Vice, and was going

54:23

to review the show. So as soon

54:25

as she got this Vice pass, Kari, she got on the

54:27

phone and said, hey, girls, I've

54:30

repeated these white parties tonight, and I

54:32

will be there evaluating the white for

54:34

Vice. So

54:38

I'm going to need all access VIP. She's

54:42

using her credentials and FES. She

54:44

said, then we got a package from

54:46

HBO with the flight of the concord

54:48

DVD that she had requested for review.

54:52

She was like... That's really endearing. I think

54:54

that's really charming. I love this. I love

54:56

the sheet of India, like flight of the concord,

54:58

sis. Like, you couldn't just buy that box set?

55:00

She was like, no, I'm reviewing it. Send it

55:02

to me for free. Also send

55:05

me Papamuz LaCroix. I'm reviewing

55:07

after Vice. Serac Wadamilin

55:09

also will be reviewed for Vice. I

55:11

would just also like to review, you

55:14

know, a 12 pack of nice socks.

55:19

Right. I was like, please take it. They

55:21

should all match. Reviewing for Vice. Reviewing

55:23

for Vice. I need to review it for Vice.

55:27

Those little ankle socks, so you can't see

55:29

my sock. I need them. Tampons.

55:32

Reviewing for Vice. Like, it's just

55:34

getting very specific. Both

55:36

tampons. No type of tampons. No,

55:39

just anything that you got. I

55:41

got to review them for Vice. So

55:45

then Vice found out that she had

55:47

booked a table at the box for

55:50

the surprise birthday party of a publisher

55:52

of Vice. In correspondence, she

55:54

said, I'm emailing you for my personal

55:56

email because we are having server issues.

55:59

Don't contact me. the publisher,

56:01

it's a surprise. Wow,

56:03

wow. So the vice, or

56:06

excuse me, the box is in New York, I've actually

56:08

been to the box. It's kind of an

56:10

exclusive nightclub. I don't know if it is

56:12

anymore, but back in the day, like around

56:15

this time, specifically, it was pretty exclusive. A

56:17

lot of celebs like to go there. It's

56:19

a pretty small nightclub. There was a lot

56:22

of cocaine happening. There was an act, there's

56:24

like a lot of wild burlesque acts. Like

56:26

one of the acts was a guy who

56:28

would like pee on people in the audience.

56:31

Like you would pull his penis out. You

56:33

know, burlesque. You know how burlesque go. Some

56:38

feather, some music, some peeing

56:40

on people in the front

56:42

row. This

56:45

was just a thing that people would do drugs on

56:47

stage, people would simulate sex. I don't know if they

56:49

had sex, I can't remember, but if they didn't, they

56:51

probably, they probably did. I mean, like if they're peeing

56:54

on people. My producer,

56:56

my producer Chelsea says that they

56:58

definitely had sex on stage. And

57:00

I wait, Chelsea, have you been to the box?

57:04

I'm curious. So Chelsea says

57:06

that my

57:08

super producer, Chelsea Jacobs, said

57:10

that her friend used to

57:12

intern at the box. How

57:15

you going intern at a nightclub? I

57:17

hope she was getting paid. Intern, intern

57:19

at the nightclub. No,

57:24

no, she has to watch people being paid on and

57:26

not getting paid. That's

57:32

so upsetting. What kind of like

57:34

work it like, oh,

57:36

this internship to work, like

57:39

will lead to opportunities

57:41

like this is this is

57:44

resume gold. I don't

57:46

think this internship leads to any opportunities.

57:49

Sorry to your friend, Chelsea, but I find

57:51

this hilarious. So the box is like exclusive,

57:53

it's very horned up, it's very drugged up

57:56

place. And at the time it's

57:58

very exclusive. So she's saying that she's a

58:00

surprise birthday party so that she can get

58:02

an exclusive VIP table at this club. I'm

58:06

like, did she write anything for Vice or did she just

58:08

keep pretending that she was going to write something for them?

58:11

Yeah, so far it's just reviews and

58:13

they're not actual reviews, it's just things

58:15

to review. So

58:17

let's get into her explicit small

58:19

talk. So despite not having Vice

58:21

connections after being let go after

58:23

she literally was mailing everything, like

58:26

why don't you have a mouth to your house? Yeah, I

58:30

mean, if you're lying that much. After a

58:32

four pack of Goodyear tires showed up at Vice

58:36

for review, let

58:39

her go. Oh,

58:42

I'm making up the tires, but you know, she was sitting

58:44

everything. Might as well sit some tires over here. So

58:47

she continued to make friends quickly, mostly

58:49

guys. So even after she was let

58:52

go, my girl, Kari was papalar. Okay,

58:54

so she met Bobby, a 23 year

58:57

old student at Girl Talk concert in

58:59

Manhattan. So she met him at a

59:01

Girl Talk concert, and he's a 23

59:03

year old student. I

59:05

can't read well. So um,

59:08

what Girl Talk, what was they song?

59:12

It was like all these type of like mashups.

59:15

Like, girl, girl, what

59:18

they make, you

59:20

know, like, I'm sure like,

59:23

I don't know, I get Girl Talk confused with like, Diplo.

59:26

I'm trying to I'm looking out here. I'm

59:29

like, what's the girl talking essential? Bounce

59:33

that let's hear some of this. That sounds

59:36

terrible. Okay,

59:45

this could

59:48

maybe be kind of vibey. They're on

59:50

the 2010s dance party essentials. So they

59:53

must have had some song that was

59:55

kind of cute. I'm just trying to

59:57

get a feel for the vibe. It's

1:00:00

a DJ, right? It's a girl talk concert.

1:00:02

I believe it. Yeah. It's

1:00:04

a man. Yeah. I

1:00:08

would say I sound hella old, but these people are from

1:00:10

the past. So I'm just

1:00:12

a young hot Gen Z baby.

1:00:14

Okay, I'm not Gen Z. Okay,

1:00:16

I can't even find the vibe. Anyway, so they're

1:00:19

at this concert. Apparently during the 2010s, the girls

1:00:21

were loving the girl talk. So

1:00:23

she meets this guy. The guy says, Bobby,

1:00:26

he says, long story short, I go home

1:00:28

with her. The next morning we exchanged emails.

1:00:32

It turns out that night she stole my

1:00:34

cell phone, but it was done in such

1:00:37

a way that it wasn't until months later

1:00:39

that I realized. Oh,

1:00:41

okay. He

1:00:43

didn't realize that she stole his phone.

1:00:45

He did realize that his phone was

1:00:47

gone. Okay. I was about to

1:00:50

say, how was it months later? I think Vanessa's so good

1:00:52

that you just put your hands up. One day you

1:00:54

wake up and you're like, wait a minute. I've been

1:00:56

making calls on this banana for the past three months.

1:01:00

Holy moly. I was about to

1:01:02

say, Kari is a Vanessa than if she had you

1:01:04

talking to them, banana. But okay, it makes sense.

1:01:06

He was saying like, I didn't realize she stole

1:01:08

it until many months later. So

1:01:11

they continue to date, even though she

1:01:14

robbed him. And he

1:01:16

would visit her from New Jersey quite frequently.

1:01:18

Bobby recalled that she had a debit card

1:01:20

that never seemed to work. She could only

1:01:23

get cash out of it, not use it

1:01:25

as a debit card. It only worked at

1:01:27

this one bodega near her apartment. So she

1:01:29

would borrow money and promise to pay it

1:01:32

back. Now I know that, you know, there

1:01:34

are smaller credit unions. I know there are

1:01:36

smaller banks, but I have never heard of

1:01:39

the bank of just one ATM

1:01:41

at my bodega work. No, no, no, no, no, no,

1:01:43

no, no, no. They're like, no, I've heard it works

1:01:46

here. Okay. Yeah. Here.

1:01:49

And no, no, no, no, no. Just here.

1:01:52

Like you have to go to this bodega

1:01:54

in Brooklyn. You have

1:01:57

to fight off the bodega cat. and

1:02:00

use the one ATM where we

1:02:02

work. That's

1:02:05

very limited. My cat is mean. We

1:02:08

have great bank security, it is the cat. We've

1:02:12

never been robbed. Never

1:02:15

had a rat, never been robbed. So she's

1:02:18

constantly borrowing money from Bobby. She's like,

1:02:20

sorry, Bobby, but you know my bank

1:02:22

account ain't in Jersey or anywhere, but

1:02:24

that bodega. So she's

1:02:27

constantly borrowing money saying that she's gonna pay

1:02:29

it back. So

1:02:32

soon later she told him she

1:02:34

was afraid that she might be

1:02:37

pregnant. Okay. Going back

1:02:39

to her good old trick. We know this one. We know this

1:02:41

one. She said that she

1:02:43

took six tests. Three were

1:02:45

positive and three were negative.

1:02:47

Wow, the ingenuity here. I

1:02:50

told her to go to the gynecologist and get

1:02:52

a real pregnancy test and we'll move forward from

1:02:54

there. After Bobby found out that she

1:02:56

had been lying about everything, he cut her off. In

1:02:58

addition to Bobby, there was 28 year old Joe that

1:03:01

she met at a Brooklyn bar. He was

1:03:03

celebrating his birthday and invited her to party

1:03:05

the next night. She told Joe and his

1:03:07

friends that she was working on a book

1:03:09

for Vice, a coffee table book

1:03:12

of photographs of men with beards

1:03:14

posing next to her. I love

1:03:16

beards, that too. Wow.

1:03:20

And that's why you have it for this coffee table

1:03:22

book. I

1:03:24

believe out of all the lies she's told, the

1:03:28

aspiration to do that coffee table book

1:03:30

is real. I

1:03:32

do too. It feels sincere. It also

1:03:34

feels like something at the time that

1:03:37

hipsters would be into. If they sold

1:03:39

this book at a fucking urban outfitters,

1:03:41

everybody would have this book on their

1:03:44

fucking wooden three-prong IKEA table. Yes.

1:03:48

Yes. And that's where it's at. Yes.

1:03:50

So I'm not against this hustle. So

1:03:54

she has this thing with guys. This is

1:03:56

Joe talking. She has this thing with guys

1:03:58

where she talks about sex. really

1:04:00

upfront and kind of puts people

1:04:02

off balance. Another guy said

1:04:05

a bartender passed him a note

1:04:07

from another guy said that

1:04:09

a bartender passed him a note

1:04:11

that read I want to give

1:04:13

you a hand job with my

1:04:15

mouth and it was signed Korean

1:04:17

Abdul Jabbar. There's

1:04:21

so much to unpack. Oh

1:04:25

wow. Oh wow. I

1:04:29

read that real time. So she gave Kari

1:04:34

gave the bartender a note

1:04:37

to send to a guy that

1:04:39

said I want to

1:04:41

give you a hand job with

1:04:44

my mouth and it

1:04:46

was signed Korean Abdul

1:04:50

Jabbar. Sorry.

1:04:55

Okay. So you

1:04:59

are so chaotic. I

1:05:04

love it. Oh man. I

1:05:06

mean yeah like that's one of those things

1:05:18

that's short circuits my brain

1:05:21

like I'm like where do I where

1:05:23

do I comment? How do I like

1:05:26

I see drawers. I have a

1:05:28

suitcase but I simply cannot unpack.

1:05:34

Grommolud you have that. I'm

1:05:37

short circuiting. So another

1:05:40

time another time a patron

1:05:43

at a Williamsburg cafe said that

1:05:45

Miss Farrell passed him a note

1:05:48

which read I want you to

1:05:50

throw a hot dog down my

1:05:52

hall. These are these are like the jokes

1:05:54

that when email

1:06:00

became a thing that

1:06:02

like 10 year olds would be like send in

1:06:05

long lists and then if you did

1:06:07

not forward to like 20 people

1:06:09

in three days and you'd be cursed

1:06:12

like I mean yeah

1:06:15

cuz it doesn't feel like if I

1:06:17

read that I wouldn't be like this

1:06:19

is sexual I was obvious I would

1:06:21

I don't know why hotdog down my

1:06:24

child who her has heard of sex

1:06:27

the whispers of sex the urban legend of

1:06:29

sex to

1:06:32

be provocative it was just like I get a note from

1:06:34

car is like I want you to put your dick in

1:06:37

my eye and I'm like what am I supposed to do

1:06:39

is this horny I'm

1:06:41

upset I

1:06:45

don't get what you want from me oh my gosh

1:06:47

like it reminds me of like those jokes about

1:06:49

like those sex jokes about like like

1:06:52

the sex therapist being like alright and then you

1:06:54

have to like throw grapes at your wife like

1:06:56

you know what I'm talking about anyway but no

1:06:58

I do want to know though they like like

1:07:08

there's like there's like a sex joke

1:07:10

out there where like a sex therapist

1:07:13

like recommends that the wife throw donuts

1:07:15

that like the husband's member and then

1:07:17

like and then like the husband has

1:07:19

to throw grapes at

1:07:22

his wife but here's

1:07:25

the thing don't remember the punchline

1:07:28

and that's fine everyone make up your own

1:07:30

punchlines to be your best punchlines for that

1:07:32

joke I will also say

1:07:35

that it sounds like the car watched

1:07:37

American pine was like I'll just be

1:07:39

stiffler like there you go yeah I

1:07:44

am simpler I just talked to men

1:07:46

like I'm simpler great so the

1:07:49

last section here is not getting caught

1:07:52

oh yes

1:07:54

I hope you free

1:07:56

out there girl I hope you throwing

1:08:00

hot dogs without all your hallways.

1:08:02

This, mm-mm-mm. So

1:08:05

my wiener has a first name, okay. So

1:08:10

not getting caught. In

1:08:12

2009, after stories started coming out about her

1:08:14

scam, she began tweeting about her scam. This

1:08:16

is not a confirmed Twitter account, but if

1:08:19

it's her, she's funny. So we don't know

1:08:21

if this is her Twitter account, she's not

1:08:23

verified. Twitter hasn't started verifying

1:08:25

scammers yet, which is disappointing. Is

1:08:28

she still on? Certified robberies. So

1:08:31

this is in 2009, she started tweeting

1:08:34

these stories. So April

1:08:36

16th, 2009, we have Kari Pharrell, who

1:08:39

we can only assume is the real Kari, allegedly.

1:08:43

She says, me faking cancer, and

1:08:45

then she puts a less

1:08:47

than sign. She

1:08:50

said, that's not as bad as DiCaprio

1:08:52

faking being a doctor and treating patients

1:08:54

and catch me if you can. Okay,

1:08:57

that's a movie. Yeah, that's okay.

1:09:01

She knows that DiCaprio didn't really do

1:09:03

that. He played an art. He, like,

1:09:06

what are you, like, that was a character.

1:09:09

I mean, it is based off of a real person,

1:09:11

but like, not in the lead art of DiCaprio, okay

1:09:13

girl, I don't know where you're going

1:09:15

with that one. This tweet says, not

1:09:18

covered by gawker yet. When I'd ask

1:09:20

a guy for a cigarette, and then

1:09:22

I'd say, I don't smoke, I just

1:09:24

wanted something of yours in my mouth,

1:09:26

okay? Okay,

1:09:32

okay. Here's a new game to play

1:09:34

with your friends. Think of

1:09:36

a, you get a topic, and then

1:09:39

you think of a Kari Pharrell joke. Yes,

1:09:41

or a Kari Pharrell pickup line. I

1:09:43

wanna hear your best Kari Pharrell pickup

1:09:46

lines. This one says,

1:09:48

ladies, step one, oh,

1:09:50

Kari, okay, these are Kari's

1:09:52

words. I do not want to be canceled,

1:09:54

okay? These are Kari's words,

1:09:56

not mine. She says, ladies, step

1:09:59

one, Be Asian. Step

1:10:02

two, find a white guy and

1:10:04

make him do a bunch of crazy shit

1:10:06

for you. Step three, rinse

1:10:09

and repeat. Okay.

1:10:13

I have no comment on that. Kyrie

1:10:17

says, the one thing I've learned from

1:10:19

all of this, because this is when

1:10:21

the backlash is coming out about her

1:10:23

scam, she said, is how gullible white

1:10:26

guys are. Okay. Again,

1:10:28

Kyrie, your words. I

1:10:31

tend to think white men are very smart, or

1:10:33

at least very cunning. That's

1:10:37

why we're all under their rule. They

1:10:41

gotta be good? I mean, does she? I don't know. We're

1:10:44

not under the rule of the smartest white

1:10:46

guys. No, this is very

1:10:48

true. See how they brainwash me? I didn't even want

1:10:50

to call it smart, but I did. This

1:10:55

little white man who lives in my head, I'm still trying to

1:10:57

run him out, but he's there. Oh

1:11:00

yeah. Sometimes he gives me great advice. He's

1:11:03

like, take up space. Open your legs

1:11:05

when you sit. Gotta

1:11:08

be by the race and make it plural. Blacks.

1:11:16

And then this one says, wait, who

1:11:18

put this cell phone in my packet?

1:11:20

Question mark. Wait,

1:11:22

what? So remember she

1:11:24

stole that guy's cell phone. And he didn't realize

1:11:26

until after a month that she stole it, that

1:11:29

he was like, now she tweeting, wait, who put

1:11:31

this cell phone in my packet? Key, key, key. Kyrie,

1:11:35

you funny and problematic as

1:11:38

fuck. Oh my gosh. Problems,

1:11:40

but also hilarious. Her

1:11:42

most recent scam was trying to get

1:11:44

into fashion week in 2018 by

1:11:47

saying that she worked there. Wow.

1:11:50

New York fashion week in 2018. She was

1:11:52

like, hey, no, I work here at New York fashion

1:11:54

week. I'm employed by New

1:11:56

York fashion week. I'm a fashion employee.

1:11:59

Yeah. for fashion. We

1:12:02

are fashion week employee, that's me. Here's

1:12:04

my badge. Oh,

1:12:07

I showed it to you really fast, but he saw it. Okay. You

1:12:10

saw it. He's flipping up real quick.

1:12:12

Hit him in the face. Carries. Wow.

1:12:15

So she's out there. She's still scamming. And that's

1:12:18

what I love for her. I love

1:12:20

that she's free. I love that she's

1:12:22

basically doing sexual harassment at local bars

1:12:24

and pubs. Right. Because

1:12:27

this is not – you described it

1:12:29

earlier as using

1:12:32

aggressive sexual prowess or something like that,

1:12:34

right? Yeah. So I

1:12:36

think this is aggressive. I

1:12:38

mean, yeah. But some of the things that she's doing

1:12:41

are walking that tight rope. The

1:12:44

tight rope to wear. I

1:12:48

mean, if she's coming on strong to

1:12:50

her work employees, you

1:12:52

know – Right. That's not completely inappropriate. That's an

1:12:55

HR situation. But I guess does it count if

1:12:57

she was never really hired? Well,

1:13:00

look, she was hired for Vice. She was. She

1:13:03

was hired. Yes. But Vice

1:13:05

didn't care as much about her inappropriate workplace

1:13:07

behavior as they did about the fact that

1:13:10

she was reviewing Samsung flat screen. She

1:13:12

was like, hello, 1-800-appartments.

1:13:15

I need to review an apartment

1:13:17

for Vice. Yeah,

1:13:20

I need to live there for a year. I'm reviewing

1:13:22

new bamboo fabric mattress. Like

1:13:26

you said? Oh, my gosh. Lacey,

1:13:29

the things I would review in this quarantine

1:13:31

are a full mic

1:13:33

stand. I

1:13:36

would love to review a new mic. I

1:13:39

would love to review like a desk lamp set up, like

1:13:42

a desk light for Zoom calls. Oh,

1:13:48

my gosh. The things I would review if I were

1:13:50

Kari. What would I

1:13:52

review? I would

1:13:55

review wheat sodas because

1:13:58

I – I recently found

1:14:00

them and I'll have like one at night.

1:14:04

And it's lovely and it's not alcohol

1:14:06

and it's less calories. And so I

1:14:09

would review those. I

1:14:11

would review squirrels. I see a

1:14:13

lot of the same ones. And

1:14:18

I just want to know what's up with

1:14:20

them. Sometimes they fight. It's very aggressive at

1:14:22

squirrels in my neighborhood and they be boxing

1:14:24

outside. I will say

1:14:26

during quarantine squirrels, it's squirrel

1:14:28

time. They're

1:14:30

doing things I have not seen squirrels

1:14:33

do. There's a park where I

1:14:35

walk my roommate's dog sometimes that's close to

1:14:37

me. And squirrels will walk up to

1:14:39

me, eat a nut, and

1:14:41

then look me dead in the eye. Oh

1:14:44

yeah, they don't give a fuck. They don't give

1:14:46

a fuck anymore. That's not scary. I was hiking

1:14:48

the other day and this is very not black

1:14:51

with me, but I was hiking, went

1:14:53

up to the Tummin' Griffith Observatory, but it was

1:14:55

too late at night. So the sun starts setting

1:14:57

fast. I'm dancing, having a good time, going down

1:14:59

Griffith. And then as soon as I, before I

1:15:02

know it, it's like dark as hell. Then

1:15:04

this pack of coyote deer.

1:15:07

I don't know if they were coyote or if they were deer because

1:15:09

it was kind of dark. And they

1:15:12

came up. They came

1:15:14

up long-legged, spindly, aggressive.

1:15:17

Yes, I was terrified. They came up out

1:15:19

of the brush and then they crossed my

1:15:22

path and I was hiding in the corner.

1:15:24

And I wanted to put my flashlight on,

1:15:26

but I didn't know a deer would run

1:15:28

away. But coyotes might be like, what's good,

1:15:31

bitch? Like it's coyote time. And they know,

1:15:33

I'm nobody's road runner, honey. So they would have got

1:15:36

my ass. I would have been smacked. I

1:15:40

don't even know how we got

1:15:43

there, but squirrels. No

1:15:45

squirrels. Like the dog

1:15:47

will bark at squirrels. The squirrels now, like

1:15:49

they stand their ground. Usually they're like, oh,

1:15:51

a dog. And now they like walk down

1:15:53

the tree and like they face them vertical

1:15:55

because the tree is vertical. And so like

1:15:57

they'll face like the dog I'm walking vertical.

1:16:00

right in the eye and be like, hey, you.

1:16:02

I love that flex. They're like, can you be

1:16:04

upside down on the tree? I think not. You

1:16:06

might want to not fuck with me. And

1:16:09

it makes her mad. You can tell. She

1:16:11

was just upset about it. Yeah, we're all getting

1:16:13

punked by nature, you know? The

1:16:16

air quality, the fires, Oh, it's

1:16:18

the who? earthquakes, like nature's like.

1:16:22

Bears are out, bears are just like,

1:16:24

hey. Bears like,

1:16:26

suck. I love it. I love

1:16:28

it for animals. I love that this is their moment. 2020

1:16:31

was only a good year for animals. Right,

1:16:33

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the scammer of the week is a charlatan

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that we like to honor. We give them

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praise. Sometimes we don't, sometimes we don't talk

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with what they're doing. But for the most part,

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we do like to glorify them. So

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yes, we're talking about Soulja Boy, who

1:20:11

spells his name, S-O-U-L-J-A, okay? If you

1:20:13

don't know, now you know, Soulja Boy.

1:20:18

So now you're thinking Soulja Boy, a scammer?

1:20:20

Absolutely. You had no

1:20:22

question in your hearts and minds.

1:20:24

I know you didn't. He revolutionized

1:20:26

music, he revolutionized clothing. We were

1:20:28

all with skinny, tiny bodies with

1:20:30

a triple XL clothing. Shout

1:20:33

out to Soulja Boy. So Soulja Boy

1:20:35

has a new, and it's not new anymore. It's been

1:20:37

out for a couple of years, but he has a

1:20:39

gaming console that's basically

1:20:42

in a lawsuit scenario with Nintendo

1:20:44

right now. So

1:20:46

Soulja Boy released questionable gaming consoles

1:20:48

on his website, and the remote

1:20:51

resembles a PlayStation. So he

1:20:53

was like, because you know, when you,

1:20:55

I'm not a big gamer, so don't

1:20:57

be, gaming community, don't come fight me.

1:20:59

But you can only play certain games

1:21:02

on certain consoles. So that's how Xbox,

1:21:04

GameCube, PlayStation, Nintendo, all

1:21:06

the girls have different operation

1:21:09

systems, and then you can only play

1:21:11

certain games on them. So Soulja Boy

1:21:14

was like, what if I made a

1:21:17

GameCube Playbox

1:21:19

Station, where

1:21:22

you can play all your games? He

1:21:26

truly is a pillar of the community. So

1:21:29

his confidence was high enough for him to tweet,

1:21:32

heads up, for anyone

1:21:34

who thinks that Nintendo is gonna sue me,

1:21:36

you are, and he says the R word

1:21:38

will redact it. He said,

1:21:40

nothing's gonna happen. Everything's legit. My

1:21:42

console isn't going anywhere. Trust me,

1:21:45

you. You,

1:21:48

trust me. How

1:21:51

about that big? Get my scam

1:21:54

on. The feds look into me, they

1:21:56

say, what's up? So

1:22:01

he asked about the bed and he got his scam

1:22:03

on, which I truly love. He said,

1:22:05

wait, so if you saw a gaming

1:22:07

device by Soulja Boy, would you be inclined

1:22:09

to purchase? I mean, since

1:22:12

I'm not inclined to purchase gaming devices, like,

1:22:14

that's a hard, hard task for me. But

1:22:17

like, I mean, but you

1:22:19

know what, if I were, if I were

1:22:21

like a gamer, I mean, Soulja Boy

1:22:24

is so recognizable as a name that I'd be like, sure, what's

1:22:26

up? I mean, do I have the extra funds? I've

1:22:29

been reviewing so much stuff that I have all

1:22:31

this extra stuff for free that I have cash

1:22:33

to burn and I can spend on a Soulja

1:22:35

Boy GameCube Nintendo-ish stuff.

1:22:37

If I step into your home

1:22:40

and you have a Soulja Boy

1:22:42

Game Nintendo Cube, say something. Here's

1:22:44

what I do. Lacey, here's what

1:22:46

I do. I wouldn't buy it.

1:22:49

I just work. I just tell people I

1:22:51

work for Vice and review it. And that's

1:22:53

what I'm talking about. And

1:22:56

the student has become the teacher. So

1:23:01

Soulja Boy quickly ran into major problems. Duh.

1:23:04

Soulja Game, which is what he called it. Okay,

1:23:07

easy. I got an Xbox, a

1:23:09

PlayStation, a Soulja Gang. So

1:23:15

he ran to this problem because he was

1:23:17

running illicitly obtained games without a license.

1:23:19

Duh. Consumers also reportedly

1:23:21

found a number of Super Nintendo and

1:23:24

Sega Genesis games upon booting. So

1:23:26

he would already even have games on it when you

1:23:28

plug the joint up. This is

1:23:30

amazing. And we're like recognizable as

1:23:32

Sega Genesis games. Okay. These

1:23:35

include Super Mario World 2, Yoshi's Island,

1:23:38

Legend of Zelda, A Link to the

1:23:40

Past, and many others. Zelda's expensive. That

1:23:42

girl has never come down in price.

1:23:44

So three weeks after launch, Soulja Boy

1:23:47

admitted defeat. Defeat? Because yes, you stole

1:23:49

everything, Soulja Boy. You can't be stealing like this.

1:23:52

So obviously so. At

1:23:57

least make it like Medjins of Melda. Right,

1:24:00

he didn't know. No,

1:24:02

he said, he said, no, we have the real legends

1:24:04

of Delta. He added the girl. So

1:24:07

Nintendo threatened criminal charges against him forcing the

1:24:09

rapper to stop selling and promoting both systems.

1:24:11

On Twitter, Soulja Boy merely wrote, I had

1:24:14

to boss up. I didn't have a

1:24:16

choice. Wait.

1:24:19

Soulja. One,

1:24:21

yes, no, you didn't have a choice because they said jail.

1:24:26

They say you go to jail or you can go to jail.

1:24:28

Or if you would like, you can go to jail. You

1:24:31

can call it bossing up. You

1:24:34

can call it that. But

1:24:36

I had to boss up before I got locked up. OK?

1:24:40

But I love it first. He was like, these

1:24:42

are legit. Like, no, Soulja Boy, you can't. You

1:24:45

think nobody thought it would be great if we didn't have

1:24:48

to buy all these different gaming systems. You didn't think

1:24:50

there was like maybe some rules or laws that

1:24:52

were prohibiting this. He's like, how

1:24:55

could I have been the first? I'd

1:24:57

like to think of this. I'm

1:24:59

the first. Damn,

1:25:01

I'm smart. But I want a

1:25:03

Soulja game. If there's some way for me

1:25:05

to get a limited distance Soulja game, I

1:25:07

don't even play games like that. But I

1:25:10

just want to have one as a collector's

1:25:12

item. That's the tragedy of this, is that

1:25:14

if Soulja Boy put out some like worked with a video

1:25:16

game company, and it's like, hey, I want to work with

1:25:19

you, want to put out, and it's going to be Soulja

1:25:21

Boy game. And it's going

1:25:23

to be me. You're going to be the

1:25:25

protagonist of Soulja Boy. All

1:25:28

over the neighborhood. Yeah. And

1:25:30

it'll be my adventure. People

1:25:33

would buy it. Right. If you get 25, right? He

1:25:36

already has me in recognition. You get a new one. He didn't have

1:25:38

a few other names. He had one right there.

1:25:42

So close. But so far. Oh, Soulja Boy.

1:25:45

Well, I just want to say, I appreciate

1:25:47

you hopping out of the bed and turning

1:25:49

your scam on. OK. That

1:25:51

was beautiful. And guys, that concludes

1:25:53

this episode of Scam Guys. We always ask

1:25:55

people, where do you want to be found?

1:25:58

I would love to be found. I

1:26:01

love how you give me the choice of where I want to

1:26:03

be found. Don't just go out and find me. Don't

1:26:06

be at the dog part when I'm trying to walk my dog and

1:26:08

send off squirrels. Please

1:26:12

I would love for you to find me

1:26:14

at your friend,

1:26:16

Leelan, on Instagram

1:26:19

and Twitter. Yes, and as

1:26:21

always you can find us at D-I-V-A-L-A-C-I-D-V, Lacey,

1:26:23

that's me for all of my shenanigans. And

1:26:25

then if you want to follow the podcast,

1:26:27

Scam got his pod on all platforms. And

1:26:30

if you want to snitch on your friends

1:26:32

and family, just make sure the scam is

1:26:34

retired so we don't fuck up your bag.

1:26:36

Unlike Dr. Sharma, who's definitely still out here

1:26:38

scamming with his name. We

1:26:40

use the real name. She

1:26:43

said use the real name. Okay. But

1:26:46

I guess I speak timely. I guess that's

1:26:48

nice that people are like, oh, instead of

1:26:50

discriminating against Indian American doctors, they're like, oh,

1:26:52

she must know her stuff because she's an

1:26:54

Indian American doctor. But

1:26:57

also she is a white lady scamming on

1:26:59

brown folks. So I don't know. Is

1:27:01

she Jessica Krug? I don't know. No, no, no,

1:27:03

she's not doing an accident. Look, this

1:27:05

is her name. She didn't create. She just used her

1:27:07

name as well. Yeah, Jessica Krug created a whole name.

1:27:11

Yeah, Jessica created an identity. And

1:27:13

an affectation that was very upsetting.

1:27:16

Fuck out of here. We actually

1:27:19

talked about her in another episode, so I won't do that

1:27:21

too much for you. Okay. We'll be hearing

1:27:23

about her. You know what? I would say I like

1:27:25

Dr. Sharma. I

1:27:28

just hope that she's like running

1:27:30

around practices, screaming that she

1:27:32

needs a knife, tank top

1:27:35

out, and you know, white coat flapping in

1:27:37

the wind just like Jada Pinkett. Those are

1:27:39

my hopes for her. Guys, why am I

1:27:41

still talking? This episode is over. We

1:27:46

want, we want some friends. Okay,

1:27:48

anyways, I think that's all I

1:27:50

have. I've

1:27:55

got this. Alright

1:27:57

guys, so. We

1:28:00

just ended the episode on

1:28:02

the hipster grifter, AKA, Kari

1:28:06

Pharrell, and we realized that there

1:28:08

were some tweets that we missed. Oh,

1:28:11

they're so good. So on May

1:28:13

4th, 2009, Kari Pharrell

1:28:16

says, they'll never catch me, because

1:28:18

I'm fucking innocent. And

1:28:20

then October 1st, 2009, she says, I'm

1:28:24

inmate, hashtag 295558 at

1:28:27

Salt Lake City Correctional Facility

1:28:30

3415 South West Drat, like

1:28:32

she puts the whole S on the list. Oh

1:28:36

my gosh, all the information. I think the saddest part

1:28:38

about seeing these two tweets back to back is

1:28:41

they'll never catch me, I'm innocent. Two

1:28:44

retweets, four likes, I'm inmate

1:28:46

numbered, blah, blah, blah, two retweets, one

1:28:48

like. One like. Kari! And

1:28:52

also, so from May to October, I guess

1:28:55

she was chilling and getting pinched to in

1:28:57

October and now you in jail. I just

1:28:59

love the confidence of like, they'll never catch

1:29:01

me. And then, okay, so look, y'all, they

1:29:03

actually did. They're calling me. Yeah, not an

1:29:05

acknowledgement too of like, okay, so I was

1:29:08

wrong, just like, the facts are. Yeah, so

1:29:10

actually, I wanna amend

1:29:12

my previous statement for

1:29:15

the four people who saw it on Twitter.

1:29:18

They actually did have caught me.

1:29:20

So if you would like to

1:29:22

send me, I'm gonna put

1:29:25

something like in my books. Damn, Kari, I'm

1:29:27

mad they put you away like this. Over

1:29:29

$60,000 worth of bad techs, like

1:29:31

that's not even like that much. I

1:29:35

mean, here's the thing is, I mean, I'm

1:29:39

gonna introduce a concept that I'm just making

1:29:41

up right now called relative crime. So

1:29:44

if like, if it's like $60,000 from

1:29:46

a charity, that's real bad. But

1:29:48

if it's $60,000 from a guy who makes

1:29:50

billions of dollars, maybe they do, we don't

1:29:52

know, maybe, probably not, but maybe.

1:29:55

Right, like who really suffered here?

1:29:57

Bank of America, maybe I. They'll

1:30:00

be fine. Mr. America will be

1:30:02

absolutely fine. Who's Mr. Fargo? Well,

1:30:04

Mr. Bank of. Well, this is

1:30:06

good. Please call me Bank of.

1:30:10

Excuse me. Bank of, you'll

1:30:12

be fine. Well,

1:30:15

Well's is doing great. Chase, he

1:30:17

couldn't be better. Like. Yeah, Chase

1:30:20

has always been good. The

1:30:22

girls are fine. First national, first I

1:30:24

call them, because we're homies. First

1:30:27

with her cousin, Citi. Middle

1:30:29

name bank. Yes,

1:30:32

my favorite. The national family. Every knows I

1:30:34

hate TV bank. I

1:30:36

don't even have a reason to hate TV bank. I

1:30:38

just like have talked shit about them so much that

1:30:40

people who love TV bank want to fight me.

1:30:43

So yeah, I hate to see this happen to

1:30:45

you, Kari. You know, hopefully you're having a, you

1:30:47

had a fun time in jail. She actually got

1:30:50

out and kept scamming. And that's why I love

1:30:52

her. Shout

1:30:54

out to Kari. Go,

1:30:56

Kari. This

1:30:58

has been an earwool production in association

1:31:01

with Team Coco. Scam Goddess is starring

1:31:03

me. Duh. Scam Goddess, AKA

1:31:05

Lacey Moseley. Scam Goddess is produced

1:31:08

by Chelsea Jacobson and engineered by

1:31:10

Marina Hane, with research by Sharon

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