Episode Transcript
Transcripts are displayed as originally observed. Some content, including advertisements may have changed.
Use Ctrl + F to search
0:00
Science Friday is supported by Dell.
0:02
Seasons change. Why not your gaming
0:05
tech? Upgrade now during
0:07
Alienware summer sale event and
0:10
save on select next gen
0:12
Alienware gaming PCs and more.
0:14
Pair your impressive skills with
0:16
our advanced gaming systems like
0:18
the Alienware M18 laptop, powered
0:20
by an Intel Core
0:22
i9 processor, featuring awe-inspiring
0:24
visuals, liquid cooling, three-dimensional
0:27
audio with Dolby Atmos,
0:29
and impressive overclocking potential.
0:31
Your dream setup, exceptional
0:34
prices and free shipping
0:37
await you for a
0:39
limited time only at
0:42
alienware.com/deals. That's alienware.com/deals. Science
0:44
Friday is supported by Progressive.
0:47
Now, most of you aren't just
0:49
listening right now. You're driving, cleaning,
0:51
even exercising. But what if you
0:54
could be saving money by switching
0:56
to Progressive? Drivers who save by
0:58
switching save nearly $750 on average,
1:03
and auto customers qualify for an
1:06
average of seven discounts. Multitask
1:08
right now. Quote today at
1:10
progressive.com, Progressive Casualty Insurance Company
1:13
and affiliates. National average 12
1:15
month savings of $744 by
1:19
new customers surveyed who saved with Progressive
1:21
between June 2022 and May 2023. Potential
1:26
savings will vary, discounts not
1:28
available in all states and
1:30
situations. WNYC
1:33
Studios is supported by MathWorks,
1:35
creators of MATLAB and Simulink,
1:38
software for technical computing and
1:40
model-based design. MathWorks, accelerating
1:42
the pace of discovery in engineering and
1:44
science. Learn more at mathworks.com. Learn more at
1:46
mathworks.com. Listener
1:50
supported WNYC Studios.
1:58
In the Badlands of North America. Dakota,
2:01
a family made the discovery of a
2:03
lifetime with a little help from a
2:05
paleontologist. You know, I brush a
2:07
little bit more and then we see three
2:10
teeth staring back at us and we both
2:12
exclaim, you know, we found a T-Rex. It's
2:15
Friday, June 14th. Happy Science
2:17
Friday. I'm
2:20
Sci-Fried producer Rasha Ariti. The
2:23
fossil found by this family belongs
2:25
to a teenage T-Rex, teen
2:28
Rex, if you will. They are
2:30
incredibly rare and scientists hope that this
2:32
young specimen could help them piece together
2:34
what T-Rex looked like and how it
2:36
behaved growing up. But
2:38
before we get into this dino discovery,
2:41
let's round up this week's science news.
2:43
Here's guest host, Annie Minoff. This
2:46
is Science Friday. I'm Annie Minoff, a
2:48
senior producer on the journal podcast and
2:50
former co-host of Science Friday's podcast Undiscovered.
2:52
And I will be filling in for
2:55
Ira Flato this week. A
2:57
new study out this week suggests
2:59
that around two to three million
3:01
years ago, our solar system collided
3:04
with a gigantic interstellar cloud. And
3:06
it could have changed the trajectory of life here
3:08
on Earth. Here to fill us in
3:10
on that and other science stories of the week is
3:13
Tim Rebel, executive editor for New
3:15
Scientist. Welcome back, Tim. Hi,
3:18
thanks for having me. So explain what
3:20
was going on with this giant interstellar
3:22
cloud. Yeah, so the
3:24
first thing you need to know about
3:27
this is that the sun has a
3:29
sort of protective bubble around it called
3:31
the heliosphere, and that's formed by solar
3:33
winds pushing outwards. And this protective bubble
3:36
extends to the edges of the solar system,
3:38
and so it helps protect the planets within
3:40
it from radiation. But researchers
3:43
have now worked out that about two to three
3:45
million years ago, the sun passed
3:47
through this dense cloud of helium called
3:49
the local ribbon of cold clouds. I
3:52
love that it has a name just
3:54
to pause on that the local ribbon
3:56
of cold clouds all uppercase. It's
3:58
it's an amazing name, isn't it? sounds like something
4:00
from a fantasy novel
4:02
or a sci-fi. It's amazing. So it
4:04
passes through this dense cloud of helium,
4:06
local ribbon of cold clouds, and that
4:08
caused the heliosphere to shrink so much
4:10
that it no longer protected Earth, so
4:13
it really shrunk in on itself. And
4:15
then that meant that Earth was suddenly exposed
4:18
to interstellar radiation in a way that it
4:20
hadn't been before. Lapera And do we
4:22
know what impact that would have had to
4:24
have all that radiation coming at us? Andrew
4:26
We can only really guess. It took about
4:28
10,000 years to return, so it had
4:31
quite a long time to have an
4:33
impact. And this was at a time
4:35
where on Earth there was woolly mammoths
4:37
and giant sloths walking on the planet.
4:39
And we know that radiation is
4:42
often linked to mutations in DNA,
4:44
and that's also the driver behind evolution.
4:46
And so potentially being exposed to a
4:48
lot more radiation from interstellar
4:51
space could have affected
4:53
evolution in quite a significant way. Lapera
4:56
And we're going to stick with space for
4:58
this next one, because you've brought us a
5:00
story about a study that looked at space
5:02
tourists, so private citizens who've been on SpaceX
5:04
flights. Tell us about that. Andrew
5:06
Yeah, so this is actually a story that's
5:09
not just space tourists, but also astronauts in
5:11
general. And it's about this thing called a
5:13
space biobank. And that's basically
5:15
a big collection of blood samples, tissue
5:17
samples, and medical information, with all of
5:19
that coming from people who've been to
5:21
space. And so as you say,
5:24
some of those have been private citizens, but
5:26
also some of them have been professional astronauts.
5:28
And the idea of this space biobank is
5:30
to really try and pin down the hazardous
5:32
health effects of going to space of which
5:34
we already know there are quite a few.
5:36
So the study is initially about bringing
5:38
all of this data together, but it
5:40
has got some early findings that I
5:42
think are pretty interesting. So one thing
5:44
they found is that a lot of
5:46
the changes recorded on a SpaceX mission
5:48
that involved private civilians, the
5:50
changes that were recorded to people's immune
5:52
systems and their DNA, when they had
5:55
immediately come back from space, within a
5:57
few months they had actually returned back
5:59
to normal. And one of the
6:01
things that they were able to conclude
6:03
from that is that actually maybe the
6:05
risks to civilians of going to space
6:07
are very similar to those of professional
6:09
astronauts who, you know, this highly trained
6:11
elite group. And so maybe as we
6:13
explore the possibility of more civilian space
6:16
trips, that's something that's super
6:18
interesting to know. So for this
6:20
next story, we're going to head to the
6:22
Australian Outback where scientists have found an impressive
6:25
dinosaur skeleton. Tell me about that. Yeah,
6:28
this is an amazing find. So it's
6:30
strictly speaking, it's a pterosaur, which is
6:32
a type of flying reptile that inhabited
6:34
Earth around the same time as the
6:36
dinosaurs. And normally with these, we
6:38
just find the odd bone or two. But what's
6:41
been found now in Australia is a 100
6:44
million year old pterosaur fossil that constitutes
6:46
about a quarter of the animal. And
6:48
it's the most complete pterosaur ever found
6:50
in Australia. I was reading
6:52
that pterosaurs are sometimes called demonic pelicans.
6:54
Is that what they looked like? Yeah,
6:57
demonic pelican is a good word for them.
6:59
This one they found here, it's a new
7:01
species of pterosaur, one that we didn't know
7:04
about before. And they think it
7:06
had a 15 foot wingspan. And
7:08
as you say, would have looked a bit like
7:10
a pelican, but demonic pelican in the fact that
7:12
it had a mouthful of spiky teeth. And
7:14
then in particular with this new pterosaur, they
7:17
think that it had a massive muscular tongue
7:19
that it would have used to catch and
7:21
hold down prey, which personally does sound quite
7:23
demonic to me. To
7:26
catch and hold down prey with the tongue and
7:28
then get it with the bitey teeth, is that
7:30
the idea? Yeah, the very fierce
7:32
teeth. I mean, we think they probably
7:34
ate things like slippery animals, like squid
7:37
and fish. And so that double combo
7:39
of having the extremely muscular powerful tongue
7:41
and a whole bunch of sharp teeth,
7:43
I think would have been quite hard
7:45
to fight against. Yikes.
7:47
Okay, so from one slightly
7:49
disturbing story to another, Tim,
7:52
a lot of us have heard about this double
7:54
cicada brood that's happening in the US right now,
7:57
but there's this really odd fungus that
7:59
is in just
16:00
look up there. So I
16:03
heard dad call her names.
16:06
So I went up there and my
16:08
cousin followed. The
16:10
second I got up there, he asked me,
16:12
what is this? And I said, that looks
16:15
like a leg bone of
16:17
a dinosaur. So. Wow.
16:19
So what, can you describe what you were looking at?
16:21
What were they showing you? They
16:24
were showing me this leg
16:27
bone. It was about four foot
16:29
long and it was flaking at
16:32
the top with some other bones
16:34
here and there. But
16:37
that's all you could see. We took
16:39
some pictures and sent up to Tyler.
16:42
So Justin's dad, Sam Fisher
16:45
and I went to high school together and
16:47
several years ago, he started sending me pictures
16:49
of he and his boys and his nephew
16:51
out looking for fossils. And he'd
16:54
send me pictures of them holding petrified
16:56
wood and rocks and other things. And
16:59
then in July of 2022, he sends
17:01
me this picture of his
17:04
youngest boy lying down next to
17:06
the leg of this dinosaur, which
17:08
was just awesome. What
17:10
a remarkable find for for
17:12
Justin and Liam and their
17:14
cousin, Caden. And
17:16
many of the articles I've seen about
17:19
this story say they they stumbled on
17:21
it. And that's just not at all
17:23
true here because they were out looking
17:25
for a dinosaur and that's
17:27
what they found. And Justin was able to
17:29
identify it and then send pictures
17:31
to me. And so that's that's how I got
17:34
involved. And so from this photo
17:36
that you received, Tyler, did you know it was
17:38
a T-Rex just just from the photo? Yeah,
17:41
based on the photos, I could tell that it was
17:43
a dinosaur. It's like Justin had just
17:45
like he knew. And I could tell
17:47
it was a large dinosaur. So really,
17:49
the only dinosaurs that are that big
17:51
from this part of the world are
17:53
T-Rex, Triceratops or the duck-billed dinosaur and
17:55
Monosaurus. And based on the sort
17:58
of the knee joint where the feet.
Podchaser is the ultimate destination for podcast data, search, and discovery. Learn More