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everyone loses weight on Ozimpic. For
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many patients, GLP-1 drugs like Ozimpic and
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Wigovii lead to substantial weight loss, but
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some seem much less benefit and researchers
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are trying to figure out why. By
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Emily Mowen. Danielle
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Rosas had tried all the usual
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avenues to lose weight, modifying her
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diet, increasing her exercise, but the
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weight always came back. In
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2020, she turned to Ozimpic. She
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was 225 pounds at the time. My
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weight has fluctuated a lot throughout my adulthood,
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says Rosas, now 36. After
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three months of injecting the drug once a week, she'd
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lost about 5% of her body
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weight, around 5 pounds. She was
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disappointed. She had hoped to lose
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more in trials patients had lost. the
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drugs are meant to be used alongside a
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healthy diet and exercise. In
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trials of samaglitide and terzepatide, the
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medications were paired with a reduced
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calorie diet and increased physical activity.
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Clinical trials are often the best-case scenario
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when it comes to a drug's efficacy
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because they involve careful tracking of participants
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and many follow-up visits with providers. In
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real life, patients may not follow their
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weight loss plan as diligently or see
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their doctors regularly. And
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while these drugs help curb appetite, they
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don't magically eliminate all temptations. After
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all, there is a major social component to eating
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food. We may eat because it
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looks good, tastes good. We're in the company of
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others or because it's available, Rothberg says. A
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person who has those environmental pushes or stimuli
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competing with the drug won't lose as much
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weight as the person who doesn't have to
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deal with those factors, she argues. Differences
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in metabolism or how people break down
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food and convert it into energy could
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also be at play. A person's age
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and hormone function, as well as the
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amount of physical activity they get, can
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have an effect on metabolism. Researchers
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are also looking into whether genetic factors may
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explain some of the variability in response. In
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2022, Pearson and his colleagues published a
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paper that identified a gene called ARRB1
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that seems to be involved in glucose
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control. When they looked at genetic data
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from more than 4,500 adults, they
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found that people with certain variants in
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this gene have lower blood sugar levels
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while taking GLP1 drugs. The
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ARRB1 gene is involved in recycling the
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GLP1 receptor within the cell and returning
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it to the cell's surface. It's
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likely, Pearson says, that people with these
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variants, about 2-3% of the white population
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and 11% of Hispanics, have more
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of these receptors in their insulin-making
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pancreatic cells. As
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GLP1 drugs work by binding to
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these receptors, the bigger reduction in
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blood sugar may be explained by
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greater binding activity spurring more insulin
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production. But in Pearson's
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study, the genetic alterations weren't connected
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with weight loss, meaning the effect
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was probably limited to the pancreas.
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Even so, it means that there are likely
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to be genetic factors that account for some
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of the weight loss response, and it may
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be that variants in multiple genes rather than
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just one drive people's different responses. Pearson's
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group is now working with researchers at
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the University of Montreal to study genetic
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factors in weight loss in people on
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GLP1 drugs. For
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GLP1 non-responders, it could be that
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another mechanism is involved in their
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obesity, says Rekha Kumar, an endocrinologist
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and chief medical officer at Found,
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a company that provides personalized weight
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loss plans. It's possible that
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whatever drove them to gain weight isn't
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necessarily related to the GLP1 pathway, she
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says. They may do better
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on medicine that works differently. Researchers
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at the Mayo Clinic are trying to
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categorize people based on their obesity phenotype
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or the behavioral components behind the disease.
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Mayo gastroenterologist Andrew Acosta and his
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colleagues have used machine learning methods
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to describe four major types of
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obesity. Hungry brain, in which
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people never feel full. Hungry gut, where
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people eat until they are full but
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feel hungry again soon after. Emotional
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hungry, which are people who eat to
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cope with emotional issues or to reward
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themselves regardless of whether they're hungry. And
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slow burn, people who don't burn calories
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fast enough. Research by Acosta
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has shown that people with the hungry gut
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type lose more weight on GLP1 drugs than
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the other types. Non-responders
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may not have to wait for other
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options. GLP1 drugs seem to be getting
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more effective, whereas samaglitide
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targets just the GLP1 receptor.
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The newer terzepatide targets GLP1
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plus another receptor, GIP. Drugmakers
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are studying whether new drugs that target
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more than one receptor involved in obesity
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could boost weight loss. As
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we get more sophisticated with these gut
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hormone combinations, I think we'll be
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able to see more responsiveness in the population.
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