Mike is joined by the Podfather himself, WTF host Marc Maron. They discuss Marc’s unusual life balancing a podcast that is at least somewhat about himself with starring in a TV show where he plays a podcaster and comic named Marc Maron, who is an awful lot like himself. Along the way, Mike and Marc kick around what it means to be a comedian and an artist, how WTF might end when the time for that eventually comes, and whether celebrities know if the thing they’re promoting is really really bad. All this plus an appearance by T-shirt, who seems to have really found a healthy and harmonious relationship with Mike at last. The 4th season of Maron premieres on IFC on May 4th.