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Adnan Is Out

Released Thursday, 18th December 2014
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Adnan Is Out

Adnan Is Out

Adnan Is Out

Adnan Is Out

Thursday, 18th December 2014
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at a maryland, correctional

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facility this cause will be recorded

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and monitored if there is a major

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to home than any case sentimental forward

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in the hip hop standing

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, possible state's attorney

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presenting new evidence to of all

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possible possible what's this

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all means is that after decade

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to embarrass her

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that

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the non hired got out of prison yesterday was

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, the whole thing thing

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his attorney or a suitor today

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my friend and client had no say it

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works free for the first time and twenty

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three years

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on one day last week city prosecutors

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filed a motion saying they could no longer

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stand behind the murder case they built against

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adnan they're asking a judge to

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vacate the conviction hi days

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later adnan was out i'm

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home detention for now but our home

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good , afternoon is since

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the inception of my marilyn mosey baltimore

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state's attorney started attorney give a statement

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to the dozens of tv cameras and microphones

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mass on the sidewalk outside on courthouse

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now

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did you couldn't compete with the mayhem when

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adnan family was out

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and the people have been

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arguing for his release

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some of them for decades the pensive

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strain of

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years worth of rage and frustration

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suddenly lose down the sidewalk spilling

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onto calvert street

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a non didn't say where

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it just kept his cool while sheriff's

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deputies hurried and to the scrum and into a white

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van a ,

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and i have talked on and off over the years more

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recently seem like he was trying to tamp down

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his hopes not get ahead of himself himself

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of years old attorneys though the guys who tried to get him

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out on bail when he was seventeen i

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cut them out on the sidewalk hugging activists

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i was in the courtroom for the hearing more

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than one hundred people at times shockingly

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quiet

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the known as breathing

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at the beginning young lead a brother of

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hae min lee says murder was about

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to be unsolved by

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a zoom directly to judge melissa sen

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he only try to keep it together but he couldn't i

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think it over he said it always comes

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back a real life living nightmare

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for twenty plus years the

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often told the judge she believes in the justice system

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is not against a new investigation he

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said the jets fan make the right decision

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the prosecutor at the highlights of her motion

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into the record and nones lawyer made a brief

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statement and within about forty minutes

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the judge was ready with her decision hundred

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nineteen states september twenty twenty two

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she said the interests of justice

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the motion to vacate is hereby granted

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you may be asking what on earth happened

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i've been the last it is trying to understand it myself

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where for this nation to vacate the burst

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like a firework and the prosecutors office,

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the very same office, that asked the the jury in

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1999 to quote, come back with

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a guilty finding for first-degree premeditated

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murder by the defendant adnan

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syed the

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prosecutor's today are not saying it down is

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innocent they stop short of exonerating

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they're they're saying the back in nineteen

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ninety nine we didn't investigate this

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early and as we relied on evidence

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we shouldn't have and we broke the rules

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when we prosecuted this wasn't

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an honest conviction

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according to prosecutors office they

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didn't set out to pick uprooted nuns case

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our own case my do they

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, just kind of crumbled once they took

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a hard look i now have

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you heard season one of cereal you know how

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i got there here's how they got

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there almost a year ago

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a new law took effect in maryland the

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juvenile restoration act wherever

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think the law says is that if you've served at least

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twenty years in prison for a crime you committed

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when you were a juvenile you can ask

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port to reduce your sentence maybe even let you

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for the day after this new law comes into effect

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on october second twenty twenty one the

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non current attorney eric a suitor

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delivers his case over to the baltimore city state's

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attorney's office

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for them to look at because

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if you remember a non was only seventeen

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when seventeen when arrested for killing hae min lee classmate

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former girlfriend

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this request goes to becky feldman chief

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of the sentencing review unit for the prosecutor's

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office

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one of the factor she has to weigh and deciding

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whether to support a sentence reduction under this

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new law is the facts of the crime

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the becky phone and starts reading pretty

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soon she's bothered right

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with the case she's having having time

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answering what should be a simple question what

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did not say a level of culpability

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in this crime becky

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four minutes

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the new to the prosecutor's office pretty

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new to being a prosecutor she'd been higher

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but the public defender's office

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the years

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britain's of alarm was cultivated on the

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defense side i

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haven't reviewed and supposed to be reinvested in

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of a case but that's it starts rolling by

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march back his office joined by advanced lawyer

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asks a judge the order new high tech dna

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testing

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that takes a while the work through the system

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the while they wait becky and or consider work together

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pulling summers

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becky's office consult cell phone experts

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a polygraph expert she's all

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up inside google maps and land records

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the states massive case file is over the

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attorney general's office general's few blocks away

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the concert having it over there in june

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the eighties offices like seventeen bucks

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is a case materials his copy machine

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knock yourself out

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she copies a bunch of stuff from the first

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seven boxes takes the papers back

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to her office to read and that's

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when she discovers some handwritten notes

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they're messy hard to make out but

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once you decipher the writing she realizes

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these notes or about or about alternate

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suspected case she ,

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america suitor hotels or yeah

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we've never seen these ads before they're

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both shocked once

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the dna results came back in mid august with

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nothing the conclusive are useful they

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took stock of everything they'd learned the

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result was result was the t of problems

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the cumulative effect gave the state quote

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overwhelming cause for concern under

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the circumstances they couldn't justify

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holding a non imprisoned anymore the

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becky feldman wrote a motion to the court motion

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to bake

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the motion to vacate does not hello

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the new story of the crime doesn't layout

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an alternate theory of who killed hae min lee

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the motionless out how the system malfunctioned

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back then and how little we know now

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the headline of the state's motion is that

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they've developed more evidence about to people

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who might have been involved in the crime but

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whom they say weren't proper really ruled out of suspects

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they don't name these people they just call them the suspect

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or at the suspects because they say

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the investigation is ongoing he

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made it anymore together or separately

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they don't know the both were known to detective

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said the time

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the first thing and worst thing they list about

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these possible suspects those hands

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notes becky feldman found in the states trial

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boxes

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they appear to be written by a prosecutor

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memorializing two different phone calls send

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different

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people who called the state's attorney's office

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to give information about the same

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person

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the know turn dated the message

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that you can tell the calls came in several months

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apart and before a

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was tried

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he just of the information from both cause

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is that a guy the state had moralists overlooked

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had a motive to kill hae min lee that

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this person was heard saying that he was upset with her

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and that he would quotes make her disappear

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he would kill her on quo in

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court yesterday becky said the save had looked into

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this individual and founding information

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in the handwritten notes to be credible the

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suspect had a quote motive opportunity

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and means to commit the crime whether

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he did or he didn't though legally

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speaking this would be a major breach

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they failed to turn over evidence like this

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is a defense that's known as brady

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violation that's what so

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alarm specie feldman that it looks

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like a nones lawyers never knew about these calls

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that alone could because to overturn a dance conviction

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so that's the biggest problem emotion explains

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this brady violation regarding one of the

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to alternate suspects the prosecutors

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are not naming and emotion

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says they've also got other new information

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about these two suspects one in an

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had a connection to the location where heyman

9:33

least car was after she disappeared

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one or both of them have relevant criminal histories

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mostly crimes committed after nuns trial

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one of them for series of sexual assault i

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know who these suspects are one

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of them was investigated at the time to

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a couple of polygraph the other

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was investigated also but not with much bigger

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as far as i can tell you know in

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prison for sexual assault the

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no one is charged either these guys in connection

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heyman least murder so not

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going to name them either

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that's all the new information they found

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about the case but the motion continues

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they also looked at the old information

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and , they're saying they've lost season that

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to they don't trust the state the main

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evidence at trial the testimony

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of their star witness j wilds and

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the cellphone records they don't hold up

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separately they don't hold up together if

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you listen to our show you probably remember

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all this jay was a friend of a nonce

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who told the car

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i didn't on said he was going

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kill hae and then after he did it

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he showed j her body in the trunk of a car

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and then coerce j into health

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bury her in a wooded city park

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the motion explains as many people

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have before that the details of jay's

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story kept changing thank

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you film points to one glaring example the

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location where jay says it non first showed

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him his body in his first

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taped interview with the detectives j

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tells them he met up with a non somewhere along

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edmunds and avenue and that's when he

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sees his body in the trunk

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oh come on man

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you say ever

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wanted was in as the officers because

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he forces one has is everywhere he goes

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i don't know about a site

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a couple weeks later j tells the cops

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he met up with a non and saw his by

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the in a different spot and

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, he wrote to your house just

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you receive some of them as a guest

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on his self esteem which is your possess

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guess and the

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conversation was one

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that it is they come get me on

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edge espa

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into stories gotten even more confusing in

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the years since the trial the most

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you know said jay told a reporter not me

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back into

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fourteen that he been out in front of his

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grandmother's house when a non came by and pop

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the trunk

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the trial prosecutor kept saying that the

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jury when

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no he's not the greatest witness i

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do remember that when we first heard his

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testimony that we were all skeptical

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like who is this guy and where did he come from

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such a journey lisa flynn

12:14

the prosecutors are telling the jury don't worry

12:16

you don't have to rely on his testimony alone

12:19

the do anything is corroborated the

12:21

cellphone records cell phone

12:23

evidence was crucial to the state's case it underpinned

12:26

jay's testimony about what happened that night

12:28

where they went from they spoke to a

12:30

glued together the timeline cell phone

12:32

evidence clear up the shagging us of jay's

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story

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after hearing the other testimony

12:37

and then seeing the records and like

12:40

the cell phone records

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knowing that okay is itself even

12:44

as he had five that many

12:46

pretty upset you're you're correct place at

12:49

this time

12:50

the becky common wrote last week's motion that the selfhood

12:52

eminence a trial

12:53

it was unreliable

12:56

no defense team has been saying this for years

12:58

but the state only recently two to three

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experts about what the cell records actually

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show and don't show and

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the experts all agreed you can't use

13:07

the incoming call records to back up jays

13:09

narratives doesn't work like that for

13:11

a host reasons i won't bore you with we

13:14

didn't get to the bottom of this incoming call problem back

13:16

when we were putting the story

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at the end of the motion becky salmond tacked

13:23

on a by the way final section

13:26

about one of the two main tachibana case

13:28

bill rates he was accused of

13:30

misconduct in another murder case that went to trial

13:32

the same you're a non did in that

13:34

case detective rich was accused manipulating

13:37

evidence fabricating evidence not disclosing

13:40

exculpatory evidence not following up on

13:42

evidence pointed to a different suspect and

13:44

twenty sixteen the guy convicted in that

13:46

exonerated

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written is one of the two detectives who

13:50

repeatedly interview jay wilds

13:56

that's the bulk of the state's motion to vacate

13:59

new and

13:59

nation about to potential suspects

14:02

important evidence withheld from the defense

14:05

renewed suspicion of jay's story loss of

14:07

confidence in the cell phone evidence and

14:09

while the brady violation alone is enough they

14:11

to cry uncle all together

14:14

well yes overwhelming

14:16

cause for concern

14:18

the non case with a mess is

14:21

amiss that's pretty much where we were

14:23

when we stopped reporting and twenty fourteen

14:25

the more city police have told the prosecutor's

14:27

office they're gonna put someone back on the case

14:30

and will try to talk to the two suspects becky identified

14:32

in the motion i , zero

14:35

predictions about look at canada but

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i do know that the chances of the state ever

14:39

to into prosecuted

14:49

when rami choudhry first came to me about this case

14:52

i hadn't heard of it no other journalists

14:54

were looking at it most of the reporting

14:56

the reporting was try to find out obviously

14:58

who killed this young woman but also if

15:00

everyone's doing their job rate how does

15:02

it could get convicted on evidence this shaky

15:06

the years since our story first aired robbie

15:08

and others have pushed to find out more now

15:10

here comes city prosecutors nair going even

15:12

further the picture that emerged

15:15

is this the not case

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contains just about every chronic problem

15:19

or system can cause who

15:22

is using questionable interview methods

15:24

prosecutors keeping crucial evidence from

15:26

the defense slightly junkie science

15:29

extreme prison sentences juveniles

15:31

treated as adults

15:33

how grindingly difficult it is get

15:35

your case back in court once you've been convicted

15:39

the baltimore court

15:40

i'm worried non hearing was held is an old

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school architectural jam they're

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hoping the massive shit the lawyers while secured

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the soaring ceilings are meant to inspire

15:50

soaring thoughts about justice

15:52

presumably and fairness yesterday

15:56

there was a lot of talk about fairness that

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most of the

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they put in motion to vacate all

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the actual evidence was either

16:04

know the or knowable to cops and prosecutors

16:07

eighteen nineteen ninety nineteen even

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on a day when the government publicly recognizes

16:12

it's own mistakes it's hard to feel

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in about a triumph of fairness

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it up a system that takes more than twenty

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years since correct and

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