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let's get to it. I left the last

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show basically saying that I wanted to talk

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about the women's draw first

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because there are

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so many women that could make a

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dent in this tournament and this draw. And

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I haven't looked at the draw. So just

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a reminder, if you saw our Roland

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Garros draw breakdown, we do it a

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little differently. I think Mike's probably

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looked at it. I think our guy

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John Wertheim, I think he has looked at the draw. I

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have not looked at the draw. So I will look at

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it for the first time right in front of you. I

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have this one that says

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women's and this one that says men's and

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I have not seen them yet.

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So I'll just tell you quickly

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who I'm looking at. And the question that I've

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been asking is, JW, I

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want your thoughts on this too. Is

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Igor Svyatk the most dominant

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player on earth right

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now with Novak kind of not

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getting off to the year, the start

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of the year that we're accustomed to, that we feel

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entitled to, frankly that we're spoiled

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as tennis fans from him with this

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consistent level of quality. But Svyatk has

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kind of jumped into that role. Five

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slams already, young age, rolled through Roland

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Garros again. Is she one

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of your top four favorites on the

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women's side? We

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should back up and talk about why we

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are even having this conversation. But

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as you say, here's a player, she's 45 and four on the year.

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She's lost four matches all year. She's number one.

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She won the previous major, rolling away. She's

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a former Wimbledon junior champ. and

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we're having a very legitimate discussion about is she

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among the top four or five contenders?

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The short answer is yes, but I think there's

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a larger discussion here. Why are we all so

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skeptical? What is it about her game that makes

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us all so skeptical? Because on paper it should

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be Eiga versus the field, and yet a

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lot of people, the two of us included, are sort of

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saying, well, she's in the mix, but I wouldn't necessarily make

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her my first choice. Why is that? Surfaces,

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right? Everything that she does well, naturally

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in her game, right? That

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heavy ball flight on her forehand side, the

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ability on clay and on hard to get out

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of the corners, especially on clay where she slides

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and then turns back. She's already got a step

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closer back to the center. When

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she goes for those kind of big slides on

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grass, she has to either run through it. The

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movement's not awkward, not great for her. When

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she split steps, and I talked to one of the

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most revered coaches a couple of weeks ago, and he

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brought up a great point. He basically said that some

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of the players that thrive on clay have like

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a high split step, so they pop up and

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down pretty quickly. You need that low center of

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gravity on grass, right? Think

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of like a Layton Hewitt or Novak

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Djokovic or Roger Federer. They're always kind

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of sunk into the court. Iga, for

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all her greatness in her footwork, kind of

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has that like pogo jump, which

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makes it tough to break to the edges with

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her movement. The second serve is attackable. You

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can beat her. This is

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all relative, right? When I talk about the

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greats and the way that you have

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to play them, it doesn't mean that there's a weakness. It

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doesn't mean that it's a slight. But the

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game plan is you have to run traffic

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hard through Iga's forehand side. Grass,

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the ball gets through the court a little

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bit more. You can attack that forehand side,

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and she can't just switch directions, meaning high

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lofty one up to the back end or

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turn it over physical back to

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the forehand side. So basically everything in

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her game gets better as soon as

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she steps on a clay court naturally,

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right? Doesn't have to make adjustments. The

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adjustments that she makes are purely

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strategic based on who's on the other side

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of the court. Whereas at Wimbledon, she has

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to adjust her. movement, she probably has to

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adjust her ball flight, especially on the forehand

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side a little bit more than she wants.

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Second serve is extremely gettable, especially

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on this surface. You can attack basically

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where you have to go to make

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her a little bit weaker is way

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more open on grass, right?

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So it's not a mystery how you beat

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her and it is easier to execute. You

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don't get that skid low ball flat deep

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through the court on a clay court and

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she can back up, right? She can give

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herself space where at Wimbledon she's going to

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have to play a little bit more up

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on the baseline. And then you mix that

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with, I'm looking at kind

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of just a lazy list of names written down.

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Coco will be good

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on grass. Sabalenka's game is made for

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grass. Rabakan has already won Wimbledon. Jess

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Pagula, you could argue grass is, you

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know, maybe her biggest upside is

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on the service. Von Jarosova obviously won Wimbledon last

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year. Zhang is going to be able to

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serve through the court on Jabour. It's her

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best surface. So you combine the ego of

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things as far as style, and then you

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bring in the other players who, you know,

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there's six or seven here in the top 15

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that you could make the argument that grass is

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their best surface. So those factors combined are why

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we are talking about EGA like we are at

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those tournaments. Not as if we forgotten that she's

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great. We haven't just

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if me saying she's more vulnerable on grass, it

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might not be one of the top three or

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four favorites. Doesn't mean I completely don't, I didn't

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forget her legacy. I've been, you know, on the

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front end of saying, I think she's going to

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be one of the best women's players of

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all time. You know, I could even be convinced

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that she wins Wimbledon, you know, someday for sure.

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But it's going to be

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the toughest slog for sure. You know, Danielle

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Collins, I'm looking at another name, she steps

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up in the middle court and starts tagging

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that forehand with her pace of shot. That's

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a tough matchup. Madison Keys, a lot tougher

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matchup. Ostapenko, a lot tougher matchup. Kalinskaya, a

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lot tougher matchups. Fidolina, tougher match-ups. Sini Okova,

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Alex Androv, there's so much depth on

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the women's side for this

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event. It's just I'm

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looking at the top 30 ranked players and

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that's before we get to the bolters and the

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you know one miss Emirati Kanu has entered

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the conversation this week by

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playing well beating Jess Pagula and finding some

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form just in time for Wimbledon so all

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that to say I think it's gonna get weird during

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this draw there's gonna be a lot of high-quality matches

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on the women's side still

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some some some really big

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names on the men's side that I want to see where they

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end up. Baratini is one

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that nobody wants to play

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first round. I see your smile which means he

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dropped someone he's gonna play someone first round it's

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like this Vero of Rafa of Roland Garros but

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you don't want to see him. John

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Leonard Struth is another one that like nobody

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wants to see right he can come forward

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he's basically Michael Stiech with a

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two-handed back in that plays the exact same

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the body type is similar

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so this is what's fun about these draw shows

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is that you want to see where the sleepers

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kind of end up Jordan Thompson's another one that is well

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versed on grass that no one wants to you know not

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as intimidating not the big serve like Baratini can't take

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the racket out of your hands but

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just a nuanced player who once he gets on a

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grass court is

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instantly better so without

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further ado Mike what are we producer Mike am

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I doing the women's or the men's first? I

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think let's go with the women's first.

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Let's go with the women's. Where are

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you? Oh sorry I am

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in Rome I actually

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am looking out to my left we

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are traveling I can

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see right here if I bend down so I'm looking

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out to my left straight away I can

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see the top of the stadium for the Rome

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Masters right out to my left as we're having

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this conversation. You're a few weeks late. Hence

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me with me with clay. That's that's

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that's just just

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trying to stay on brand. What else are we looking for? Or

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what else were you curious about? You've already

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seen you have

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solved for your biases but

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what what was exciting you before you actually

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saw the draw this far? week JW. Well

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I think some of the mystery and it hasn't you

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know it's we're let's time stamp this it's Friday morning

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the draw just came out and I think we're all

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waiting to see are the

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players that are on our draw sheet so they're gonna

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stay in the draw they're gonna be some some

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late withdrawals that are gonna change things a

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little bit it looks like Novak

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is officially in I think Murray's a bit

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of a question mark as you and I

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speak right now. Yeah and I just want to

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clear something up real quick because I've

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been catching strays for the

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last week me saying so

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when I said Novak if he was really hurt

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he should pull out before the draw

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is made that doesn't mean if he has a chance to play

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you pull out right Mike

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literally said when would he pull out when

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we were dealing with a knee surgery you

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know etc etc and I said okay if

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he's really hurt knows he's not gonna play he's

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gonna pull out before before the draw

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is out not

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the same as Andy Murray this

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is a largely he's never ceremonial in

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the way he approaches a match but

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this is his last Wimbledon he wants to say

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goodbye to the home crowd if

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Novak was playing his last tournament and he was 90 something

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in the world you would also want

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him to play regardless of hurting

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himself further XY and

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Z Murray's not worried about future damage to his body

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he wants to get on the court and

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take that victory celebration the two couldn't be

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further apart right now one is the number

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two seed where if you pull out late

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it's your prerogative I'm just saying if he knew

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he wasn't gonna play on a Tuesday he would

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have pulled out before the draw it's that simple

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no reason to get emotional about it that's the

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way it's always been done it's the classy thing

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to do and by the way it's what he

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said this week right he said

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I'm not gonna play if I don't think I

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can win and if I know I can't play

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he goes I'm gonna pull out earlier

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because I want to make a spot in

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the draw for someone else he literally parroted

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exactly what we were talking about but yet

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still catching strays and we can't We

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can't do right on this show, one

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way or the other, but Murray and Nolay,

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completely different scenarios. I am going to

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turn over the

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women's draw and take a look at it for the

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first time. But first, we have to take a

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break. Got it. And

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we'll be back right after this, apparently. All

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right, welcome back. Hopefully, producer Michael

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butt out. Not

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sleep butt out. I'll

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tell you, I just had a beautiful plate

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of caprese de pasta. You know what sucks

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about Italy and their offerings for food

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and beverage? Not much, but

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you know what sucks? What's

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that? I can't see any, I don't see

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any ala pop. Oh, and

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it's, it's could have used one.

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All right, I'm going to turn over this

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women's draw and then we are going

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to start filling out the

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bracket. So I know I'm going to see

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Igis Viatic. Ooh, Kennen, that's

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not easy. That's

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a tricky one. Kennen's

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game translates to

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grass really well. Hard

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flat through the court, can switch directions. I'm

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not going to, I'm obviously, I'm not going to take her over Iga.

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You'll recall, recall the first round last

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year. That's the, Kennen's got some rough

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draws coming her way. Sometimes

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she overcomes them, sometimes not.

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That's a rough first rounder though, for two

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former major champions, don't often get that. Yeah,

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that's a rough one. And

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I also remember Iga hasn't played a match, a

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competitive match on grass. Like come out

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of the gates, it's easy to drop

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serve once you're down two, three, oh, like that's,

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she needs a good start on that one. And it's

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not as if she has seven weeks of clay court

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tennis behind her and she's going into Roland Garros. So

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I like Martich in the second

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round. I like Iga, I have Iga

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through to the third round. Oh, Putin

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save a carber. That's a good one. a good one,

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huh? Putin save. I didn't mention her in

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the sleepers and I feel bad now because

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you said something really interesting. Why

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don't we, why don't we do it right here in like 30 seconds, but

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you, you made a, you made a really good point that

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you don't have to necessarily be six foot 10

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and a big server to succeed on grass. And

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here in Putin save a Kerber's, these are not

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two physical giants, but they both are good on

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the surface. Why don't you explain

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why it's an oversimplification to say height

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is good. The laziest

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way to analyze grass court tennis in

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my opinion is big serve good

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on grass. And I actually don't think

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that's the case. I think being

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able to knock down returns, uh, like Isner doesn't

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hold any more on grass than he does on

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a normal surface, but he doesn't have

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time to set up, right? He hits one return

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and you can switch directions on him right away.

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And he'll tell you this much anyways, fast twitch

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muscles, right? Where you can react quickly that

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pays dividends on a grass

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court, slow and dope. He doesn't really pay any

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dividends no matter how hard you serve. It's not

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going to help you hold anymore and you have

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to be able to, to break. So the lazy

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analysis, we're like, that's a big server. He's automatically

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going to be great on grass. Doesn't

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always hold water. Now if you're a big server

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like Becker and you can come in and you

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can make a bunch of returns and you can

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slice and get in and same with Pete, like

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they were great on grass. You know, the serves

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are always great, but the, some of the parts

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were better on grass. Pete could get forward. He

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could chip and come in. He could get a

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little bit of a mindset to make a service

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games even better. So Putin save a, again, low

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to the ground Kerber for when we're able to

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champion low to the ground can both get

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it through the court. I don't know who I

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like in this one. I think I'm going

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to take Putin save it just on like a recency bias.

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I'm basically just going to take her because

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she won. Oh, Sini

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Akiva, that's Putin save a Sini Akiva

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is a brutal suck around. I

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like Sini Akiva. Okay. That's the

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popcorn one. We've come to

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our first impasse as Sini Akiva, Eiga. That's

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not good. That's a good upset pick, huh? Iga

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has a tough drop. Yeah, exactly.

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Tenon is really good. I think

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Martich, I think she can handle

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that. Sinyakova

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Iga, that's one to circle, huh? That's a

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big one. I think that's a big one.

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Garcia, all

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right. Blincova,

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Potipova, okay, Garcia, Potipova. I

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like Potipova to the third

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round. No Bernie Parra,

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big lefty serve. All

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right. No, Potipova played pretty well. She

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played all right last week. She won some matches. Tamyanovich

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Ostapenko, who do you like in that one,

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JW? That's a good... That's a repeat. That's

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one for the YouTube. Remember they

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played at Wimbledon and had words.

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Tamyanovich on the... Nice to see she got

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a wild card, bad luck with injuries. I

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think I gotta go Ostapenko. But

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that's a good... There's some

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history there. I like

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Ostapenko through to the third round.

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Potipova, I mean, Iga's draw is

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like brutal. She does

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not like the matchup against Ostapenko. Is she

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0-4 against her? Or

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did she just... Never beaten Ostapenko. No,

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never beaten Ostapenko. 0-4 against

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Ostapenko. Oh my gosh. I

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hate this draw for Iga and I realized, even

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though I went off on

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why I don't like her on grass as

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much as the other shirt, I still have a really hard time

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picking against her. Exactly. All

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right, Danielle Collins. I like her moving

15:36

through against... Losing record at Wimbledon, I

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just saw. That's surprising. I think you're

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right, but isn't it? Yeah,

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maybe that's just a movement thing. Where

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you're not a fluent mover, where maybe she slips and

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stuff, but I still like... I mean, she's hitting the

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ball great. She's had some time off, she

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hasn't played. Cherie, I

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still have Collins third round, even

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with that... Camilla,

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oh, sorry, I was like, Georgie? No, she's not. Maybe

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ever. I

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guess I like Haddad. I guess I

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like Haddad through against Collins. Oh,

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there's not like a huge favorite in that

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section, honestly. That's kind of the weakest little

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one so far. I'll go

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Collins. Just friend of the show,

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right, Danimal? Over.

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Yeah. Dad, Maya is one of those

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players that everybody likes, and then she seldom brings it at

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the big events. Yeah.

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And also, I have this thing where, like, if

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they played first round, I might view it a little

16:36

bit differently, but if they play third round, that means

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Danimal's gotten two matches in. And when she gets a,

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like, you know, when she has

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wind behind her, she's a completely different player. So

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if they play third round, this

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isn't all on like just a head-to-head basis. This is if

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they play, I didn't say anything to Novak or Roland Garros.

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Like, all of a sudden, I had him in

16:54

the semis. I'm like, well, if he's in the semis, then

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he's turned into Novak. So it's a

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completely different scenario than him playing, you

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know, same matchup first round. You

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got to give credit to the

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players that can find form in

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a hurry. Kurchikova.

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She's falling off. Senyakova has

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a higher singles ranking than Kurchikova. Just

17:16

a little side note.

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Thenyakova is good on Grass. I'm

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just telling you. Like, she can

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absolutely play. On Grass,

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okay, to play Collins, I like, I'm gonna save

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you. So we move

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it along here. I like Vandrossova. I

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like Vandrossova. I

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keep thinking I'm gonna pick an upset of Iga, and then I just

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can't do it. Exactly. Which

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says something. Yeah, that's like

17:41

a testament to her greatness, because I don't like any of the

17:43

matchups for her, but I'm not gonna pick against her. So,

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I don't know if you saw

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the slip that Vandrossova had, which looked really

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bad. I don't

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know. I mean, everything

17:55

is case by case, but I'm curious how

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much of this injury withdrawal

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is preventative and cautionary and precautionary and how

18:02

much of it do you think these players

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are coming dinged up? I

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think a lot of it's precautionary. I think we saw a

18:09

lot of precautionary stuff in

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Berlin. Rightfully

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so. You know, if you take

18:16

a slip, but the thing with Von Drosova and with a

18:18

lot of the other players who kind of had those slip

18:21

and then withdrawal is they all walked off.

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It didn't look like she had a limp. So hopefully it's one

18:27

of those things where you tweak it. You

18:29

know, I see anti-inflammatories, Boulterran,

18:33

everything, all of these things where you can

18:35

reduce inflammation. I don't

18:37

know. I haven't heard much about her because

18:41

other stories have been taken up all the

18:43

oxygen, but I haven't heard much about her

18:46

coming into this tournament, but I

18:48

love, I thought it was so good for her Wimbledon

18:50

prospects that she played well at Roland Garros. And

18:53

finally just found a little

18:55

bit of rhythm and a cadence and you know, to

18:57

be in a tournament for 10 days, the same tournament,

18:59

not having played two tournaments in 10 days like she

19:01

asked for the rest of the season, I thought was

19:03

a really good sign. So I have Iga Von

19:06

Drosova in

19:09

the quarters. Rabak and another one

19:11

of the Berlin

19:14

casualties retiring down 3-1. It looked like

19:16

it was stomach issues. Sounded like it

19:19

was more. This is a chronic thing

19:21

with her. I mean, this is the

19:23

players really struggle to stay healthy. Yes,

19:27

and it's weird. And she'll be

19:29

defending tournaments. So Indian Wells, Rome,

19:32

Miss Botebum, kind of on the eve

19:34

of the tournament. But I just,

19:37

you know who I really like? I like Leila Fernandez on this. Wozniakki

19:44

Parks is a good one, huh?

19:46

Parks has that big serve. There

19:49

it is though, John. Wozniakki's gonna find a way

19:52

to hit behind her. She can switch directions. I

19:54

like Woz in that one. Wozniakki

19:57

Fernandez is a good one. I'm

20:01

going to take Layla through to the third round. I'm going

20:03

to take Robakana. It's just so hard. Robakana, you don't know

20:05

what you're going to get, but you can't bet against her

20:07

on the surface. I

20:10

mean, her game and maybe Saba Lenka are kind of

20:12

like made for

20:15

the surface. I have Robakana through to the fourth

20:17

round. Okay, now

20:19

we're going to get fun. I

20:22

am taking in the

20:24

next quarter, Kalinskaya, Buskova.

20:28

It's interesting because she keeps the ball down. Kind

20:30

of has that, you know, the check ball flight normally

20:32

is a little bit flatter and through the court, which

20:34

is great on grass. I don't

20:36

like some Sonobu. She kind

20:39

of needs some time on that forehand side almost

20:41

has like a little delay where she can kind

20:43

of lay it off and create a bunch of

20:45

speed. But also like it's tough to catch up

20:47

to on a

20:49

grass court. I like I'm going to

20:51

go Kalinskaya, Robakana in

20:55

the fourth round. Jabour,

20:58

I think the people's

21:00

favorite for this event, obviously

21:02

having made the finals the last two years and

21:04

just coming up a little bit short. Heartbreak

21:07

Hotel against Von Drosova last year where she was

21:09

probably the heavy favorite in Von Drosova outside of

21:12

the top 40. Spitalina

21:17

semis last year, if I'm not mistaken. Memorable

21:22

run. Niemeyer had a nice run two

21:25

years ago, but she's falling off a bit. Yeah,

21:27

Spitalina semis last year. All

21:30

right. I don't like doing

21:32

this, but Jabour, I just there's a lot.

21:34

She was another one of the casualties in

21:36

Berlin that like she lost the first set

21:38

to Coco and

21:40

then took a pass. It looked like it was a neck

21:42

issue, which if

21:44

you're playing a set, it's normally stiff and you're just kind

21:46

of making it worse by trying to serve. So

21:49

that felt very precautionary. I

21:52

have Spitalina in the fourth round. Yes.

22:01

You have Jabbar through on that section,

22:03

John? I guess. She sure

22:05

can't complain about her draw, but I

22:07

do not think she makes her third

22:09

straight final. That's jumping ahead.

22:11

But yeah, I do have Jabbar through. Okay.

22:14

I don't hate that at all. This is a

22:16

tough section. I think that's a tough one because

22:18

that's going to be on center court

22:21

for sure in Great Britain. I

22:36

got to do it, though. I'm taking Pagula

22:38

to the quarters. Oh, really? And

22:40

maybe, yeah. And maybe that's my

22:42

heart. But I

22:45

just... No

22:49

Ashland, Kruger, Love. No, I mean tons of it.

22:51

I just, just Pagula is five in the world

22:53

and is really good on grass. No, there's

22:56

no disrespect. And probably benefits from this hiatus. I

22:58

think that's a good one. I don't read much

23:00

into her losing to Radikhanu having won a title

23:02

last week. No,

23:05

no, I don't. I don't think I don't know if

23:07

she benefits from it. But I

23:09

think as we talked about in

23:11

the last pod, I think she needed to win

23:13

that tournament. She

23:16

needed to be a big competition, took out some massive grass

23:18

court players, like, six

23:23

players, like, six players. She

23:25

needed to win that tournament. She needed to be

23:27

a big competition, took out some massive grass court

23:29

players, like, Siniakkaba, Gough,

23:33

and then Kellan Skaia, same four

23:35

match points in the final. So I've

23:37

been outspoken the last couple of weeks about

23:40

loving just Pagula's game on grass. So

23:42

I guess I have to put, you

23:44

know, Mutha where my mouth is. And

23:49

so true to form, who do you have

23:51

through? So we're going to go, we'll

23:54

fill through to the quarters and then we'll come back and finish it

23:56

on the women's side. But

24:00

like I have no confidence in this in

24:02

this in this half like million upsets Uh

24:05

just waiting to happen. I mean putin save us

24:07

in the ackova is a monster second round cine

24:09

ackova Ega That's

24:11

a big like and cine ackova has played like

24:14

big matches even you know doubles court eight slams

24:17

Ega has a brutal draw kennen great on

24:19

grass I think she'll get through

24:21

the second one cine ackova really good on

24:23

grass Ostapenko or potapova really good on grass

24:25

vong drozova really good on grass. Ega's got

24:27

a brutal draw and it's like the

24:30

respect tax means you can't it's

24:33

weird like I could have her in the semis and also

24:38

I I might take 51 that she

24:40

doesn't get there. You know what I'm saying? Like she

24:42

really she's like the most likely but

24:46

This is a this is a tough draw like

24:48

this is a really really really tough draw for uh

24:51

For ego I mean

24:54

she plays fourth round, but she's never beaten

24:56

ostapenko like tennis's matchups And

24:58

that's uh, like easier ostapenko just fires

25:00

through the court Yeah,

25:03

we we haven't I mean, let's just be clear too. This is

25:05

the player who's never been beyond the quarters She

25:07

won junior weveled in. Um, but this

25:09

is a player who's never been beyond the quarters. I I

25:11

just I

25:14

don't know how much we we can't really quantify

25:16

you you say or attacks um, I mean, I

25:18

just I think there's got to be something on

25:20

both sides of the net both her own confidence

25:22

and then The opponent as well.

25:24

There's there's got to be something to say. This is

25:27

the world's number one player who won the previous major

25:29

who's Winning 90 of her

25:31

matches And only

25:33

gets better as the tournament goes on But

25:35

I think you're right. It's it's I think I think

25:38

you nailed it It's kind of a combination of a

25:40

brutal draw and yet in a vacuum I'm, not sure

25:42

I would pick against egan any single one of these

25:44

matches exactly And that's

25:46

the problem with just throwing out things is like again I

25:49

could see her losing three times along the way to the semis

25:53

But it's like do you bet she's still in my

25:55

mind the most likely to make it there It's

25:58

kind of you know what it is. It's kind of like it's kind of like raw food on

26:01

grass back in the day, like great,

26:04

like one Wimbledon twice. So conversation and

26:07

one of the best grass court players ever. And

26:09

also if you were ever going to try

26:11

to take his lunch, it would be on that

26:13

surface. Right. Like so it's just he

26:15

has to make more adjustments on that surface,

26:18

you know, return position going after

26:20

the first ball a little bit, a little bit sooner,

26:22

a little bit faster. You

26:24

can get through. He doesn't break serve at

26:26

a 53% clip like he does on other

26:28

surfaces. And it's kind of

26:31

similar for Eiga. So

26:33

all right, let's let's flip to the

26:35

bottom half. Queen Wen,

26:38

like her a lot. I like her.

26:44

Taylor Townsend, Pavlya Cenkova. I

26:46

like I like when through

26:49

to the fourth round, I like her draw.

26:53

Live up to her seating. I mean, I

26:55

don't know. I see

26:57

a wild card. Radikanu lurking. Yeah,

27:01

I've shown some form of late. But yeah, I

27:03

mean, I was in droves legit. That's a brutal

27:05

first round draw for Radikanu. And

27:09

I see that against a seed. Yeah, exactly.

27:11

Yeah, you're right. I was in drova. Can

27:13

she want did she win Berlin last? She

27:15

wants something on grass leading into Wimbledon last

27:17

year. I think she beat she

27:19

beat Coco at Berlin last year. Yeah, she

27:21

beat Coco. Yeah, that's right. That's

27:23

a. Oh, gosh, I don't even know who I'm going to.

27:26

Who do you like their JW? I don't know who I

27:28

like. That's that's popcorn. I

27:33

always it's as much hard

27:35

overhead. We always like Taylor

27:37

Townsend, especially on a fast

27:39

surface that rewards net play.

27:43

This is an interesting little pocket here, though. I mean, I

27:45

guess I guess man,

27:50

I'll tell you. Gosh, that's a draw.

27:52

Alex and drove and then second round, whoever

27:54

wins that Radikanu. Alex and drove has Merton's

27:57

second round, who's really.

28:00

and grass also. Yeah, that's

28:02

a nice, that's a tough, I don't think, I

28:04

don't think Zachary gets through that section. Coming

28:07

off of a first round loss at her previous

28:09

major. Yeah. I

28:11

love Casaquina, not on grass. This isn't, what

28:14

state is the land of opportunity? Is that

28:16

like Arkansas or New Mexico? There's a lot

28:18

of big opportunity here in this little pocket.

28:20

I don't know. It's someplace that Alexandrovas has

28:23

never been. I'm,

28:29

man, I don't know who to choose in

28:31

this Alexandrovas-Radikanu match. But

28:34

whoever, how do we feel about

28:36

a Radikanu and the crucible of

28:38

center court and sort of young,

28:41

young British player coming back to the scene of the

28:43

crime. This is where her 2021 run

28:47

got its momentum. Is that a plus

28:49

or a minus? Like the shoulders are

28:51

heavier now with, with, with weight of

28:53

expectation and eyeballs. Didn't

28:56

play last year. So this is

28:58

like a two-year buildup. I

29:01

think I, I'm going

29:03

to go with Alexandrovas to

29:06

the fourth round. Oh,

29:08

all right. She

29:11

hasn't been high on confidence. So this

29:14

section is really confusing to me. Agree.

29:17

And because I have no idea who's coming

29:19

through that little, little section, that

29:23

little Alexandrovas-Radikanu-Mertens-Sakari

29:25

section, because I

29:27

don't know who's coming through there, I'm taking a

29:30

Queen Wen to the quarters. I think

29:34

on numbers you have to. This is a, this is a

29:36

very strange pocket of the draw though, isn't it? Yeah.

29:39

A little soft. Yeah.

29:41

This is, this is in this next little

29:43

pocket, it's kind of opportunity knocking because Kazakina,

29:46

it's probably her worst service. She

29:49

can't really flatten out that forehand. It's just not

29:51

her shot shape. But

29:56

I don't, Budosa Mukhova would normally

29:58

be like a layup. up here, but she

30:00

just hasn't played any tennis. She's

30:03

coming back from injury. And

30:06

re injured this week, unfortunately. You're talking Muheva,

30:08

right? Yeah. Is she even going to play?

30:11

Yeah, exactly. What did

30:14

she say? She's ready to inflict some

30:17

damage, she told the WTA website, but

30:19

now she's injured again. This is a

30:21

very talented athletic player who's had deep

30:23

runs at Wimbledon who just cannot stay

30:26

healthy. Muheva. And has been in the

30:28

finalist at Roland Garros also. Yeah, right.

30:30

Knows how to play these big events.

30:33

I mean, this is, I don't know

30:35

how Andreva is on, like we don't have a lot,

30:37

we don't have a huge sample size here. Okay. I'm

30:41

going to cause it, Kena, at least to

30:43

the third round. I

30:48

think Badosa, if Muheva

30:50

plays, I still think I'm taking

30:52

Badosa. I think it's a huge ask to come out and

30:54

just all of a sudden

30:57

play well. Andreyva, I

30:59

guess, to the third round. How do

31:01

we feel? This is the first event,

31:04

and no doubt not the last, at which Andreyva

31:06

is seated. But

31:09

she plays a young junior rival right off

31:12

the bat. It doesn't bother. I

31:14

don't think that's a huge deal. I think it's

31:16

more just service specific and playing

31:18

in majors. And she, I

31:21

have Kazakina, Andreyva. I'm taking Kazakina to the fourth

31:23

round, even though I don't really like that. Yeah.

31:25

We don't know. I

31:31

mean, Andreyva had a nice run on the clay last

31:33

year and didn't really do much in the grass.

31:38

I think she got to middle weekend

31:40

and then she smacked her racket in

31:42

the grass and got in trouble with

31:44

the adults. But who hasn't gotten in

31:46

trouble for that? Yeah, exactly. All

31:48

right. Let's just say it. I'll take Andreyva, but keep going, yeah.

31:51

Yeah, I don't. You could be right. Maybe I

31:53

hate that. Saba-Lenk,

31:56

I mean, Saba-Lenk is in the quarters.

31:58

Yeah, I think. providing she's at full

32:00

health. Yeah. I think she's without

32:04

looking at the match-ups and only knowing what I know

32:06

so far. I think she's my favorite just

32:10

based on playing style in

32:12

question marks around Rabakana and

32:14

her health and short of matches coming in. Yeah,

32:18

I think Saba-Lenka is my favorite. All

32:21

right, Peyolini is gonna get through

32:24

the third round. I

32:26

have her right there in a little pocket with Seriba's

32:28

Tormo. Never won

32:30

a match at

32:33

Wimbledon. Yeah, that's fun. Not

32:35

often you see a top eight seed who

32:37

has... It's like way more

32:39

than any other tournament. Like

32:44

the Guga Querton rule of being seeded

32:46

three and everyone hoping you're in that

32:48

section of the Caspar Rood situation. Like

32:51

more than any other tournament, you see

32:53

good players relegated to

32:55

mediocrity on grass very quickly. Oh,

33:01

I know. Okay, Upset Special. What

33:04

do you got? I

33:06

have Andrescu

33:08

in the fourth round. Bianca Andrescu in

33:10

the fourth round. Yeah,

33:15

I could see that. What's the Upset? Over

33:19

Peyolini to get there. No,

33:21

just that entire section when you

33:23

haven't played much tennis and however

33:26

long unseated. Yeah,

33:28

so Peyolini in the third round, which is not really

33:30

an... It's an Upset on paper, but it's

33:33

more just like someone unseated that I'm

33:35

punching in. I've gone chalk for a lot

33:37

so far. Kostiak,

33:43

Maddie Keys, tricky little one

33:45

against Travison. Kostiak,

33:50

what do you... Kostiak

33:53

on grass. Does she have results on grass? She

33:57

has athleticism, but I don't know if she has...

34:01

I'm forever getting I'm

34:03

still on the Madison Keys train. I got to

34:05

tell you, maybe not to win events, but there

34:07

is just so

34:10

much power. I don't think she's

34:12

losing eight players bunched next to

34:15

her, do you? No,

34:18

Keys and Dresku. That's

34:20

what I, that's where I'm at. That's a repeat from last year.

34:22

Yeah, that's good. And

34:26

Dresku watched her play that match against Osaka a couple of

34:28

years ago. She played pretty well. She's kind

34:30

of, her

34:32

re-entering the conversation, winning a bunch of matches

34:34

at Roland Garros, like in playing well straight

34:36

away off of her latest injury has

34:38

been pretty impressive. Now I want the

34:40

pencil to her in potentially to the quarters. I

34:43

just don't know if her body can take that

34:46

many matches. That's always the question, yeah. More

34:48

matches in a short week when your body

34:50

hasn't, but it's a day off

34:52

in between. All right, I'm upset

34:54

special. Bebe

34:57

in the quarters. Whoa, all

34:59

right. But it was Keys Andreva

35:01

last year. Yeah, you said Andre, yeah, yeah,

35:03

yeah, you're right. So you have Andrescu, our

35:05

little 2019 magic. Okay, that's

35:07

good. I have Andrescu in the quarters somehow.

35:10

Take it. Azarenka

35:13

played pretty well last week. Azarenka

35:15

Sloan first round. Klishka

35:18

in there. At the 10th time. Okay,

35:22

I have, all right, now we're

35:24

getting fun. Yeah, this is

35:26

a good section here. What do we got?

35:28

I have Osaka, Vika third round. Match,

35:34

match up, match up, match up.

35:36

Vika second serve. Osaka can

35:38

go after it. If Osaka's in the third round, that

35:41

means she's found form. I

35:44

have Osaka in the fourth round. Whoa,

35:46

that would be her career best Wimbledon

35:49

showing, I think. I know,

35:51

by the way, I hate all of my picks. Okay.

35:54

Just, just. We

35:56

got Klishka, former finalist and number

35:58

one player. We don't like her. Plushka

36:01

was not getting through as a rank because she's too

36:03

solid. Like there's a recency bias,

36:05

but it's just if, oh, Sokka wins two

36:08

matches. And she's got some momentum,

36:10

yeah. That's

36:12

the rank. I don't actually, I'm gonna leave that

36:14

one open and come back to it, because I have so

36:16

much respect for Vika. All

36:19

right, Krista, Tjajibore,

36:21

Coco, Coco, Coco, Coco,

36:23

Coco, Coco. All

36:25

right. And

36:29

I don't see anyone bothering her. Dolahide is a

36:31

decent, it's a pretty good first round matchup for

36:33

her because she basically tops out on the forehand.

36:35

Also, I don't know that she can, again,

36:38

similar to Sphiatec, you go through that forehand

36:40

side on Coco, like flat through that side.

36:43

That's the plan. And Dolahide can rip,

36:46

but the shot shape is

36:48

a little spinny for this

36:50

deal. Coco,

36:52

Sokka. Ooh,

36:54

man, I'm, this

36:57

section's gonna get me in trouble. I'm gonna look like an

36:59

idiot. Wait,

37:01

no. Yeah, right.

37:03

When Deon Perry and her one band

37:05

handed backhand, we

37:09

were having, Emma Navarro, top 20

37:11

American player. I love her. She

37:13

lost first round in Berlin. I don't

37:15

know. I think it's on

37:17

her second Wimbledon, I think. On the grass.

37:20

A lot of times, you just don't know on grass. It's

37:22

such a specific service. And if someone doesn't have a track

37:24

record, it's hard to bet on that versus someone who does.

37:28

Coco, Osaka. Do you, you don't, who do you have? Do

37:30

you have Vika through in that fourth round? I

37:34

do. That's

37:36

tough. I do, I scribble it down and now I'm looking

37:38

at it. I don't know. I

37:41

mean, I do think, just big picture, between,

37:43

you know, Coco loses first round last year

37:45

and that was the low ebb

37:47

of her career, perhaps. Yeah. Comes

37:50

back now. So she's defending nothing, not that she really

37:52

cares about that. She's got the EGA

37:54

kryptonite thing, but EGA is on the other side of the

37:56

draw. And- And

37:58

grass is very different, by the way. Grass

38:00

is very different. And yeah, and she's on

38:02

a preferred surface. And now I'm looking at

38:04

Coco's drawing. Boy, she's Coco has nothing to

38:06

complain about at least week one. Yeah,

38:10

I think you're probably right. I

38:12

think on

38:14

Grass experience in

38:17

form, I think Azarenka probably beats,

38:20

I don't know. Coco

38:23

beats Azarenka. Yeah, Coco beats Azarenka. I'll with

38:25

you. Coco beats Azarenka. I

38:29

like Coco and Drescu. God, this is like

38:31

a sneaky game. For

38:33

some reason I want to take Osaka, but I need

38:35

to remember that she doesn't have, she

38:37

didn't have a record on Grass when she was number one in the world. Been

38:41

to a third round. Then again, she doesn't have much

38:43

of a record at Roland Garros either. And she came

38:45

within a point of beating the champion. Yeah. All

38:48

right. Just because she's the person I want

38:50

to bet against the least, I'm going to

38:52

go Coco Semis. And

38:54

now I'm going backwards. Yeah, so let's

38:56

reset. So we've gotten through to the

38:58

quarters. Tell us your quarters real quick. All right. So

39:01

we're going to reset here quickly. We're going through

39:03

the draw. Top

39:07

of the food chain, I have Iga Von Drosova,

39:11

but like the Iga's draw again is

39:13

just so rough. Like starting with Kenan,

39:18

Sini Akiva third round, Astapenko fourth round

39:20

who she's never beaten. I

39:22

just have so much respect for Iga. Like I

39:25

know the surface doesn't warrant this, but

39:29

I have Iga and the Semis. I

39:33

have Rabakana Pagula in this next thing. And I'm

39:35

thinking about doing something crazy. I'm

39:38

doing it. Pagula gets

39:40

to her first Grand Slam semifinal

39:42

ever. Her

39:44

first major semifinal ever. Oh wow. That's

39:46

a yeah. First grant. Yeah, geez. And

39:50

that's there. Right. So there like that's brought up

39:52

a lot. That's

39:54

that's a big. All right. Iga Pagula.

39:56

I don't, I don't like this, but I'm about to do.

40:00

I think I'm betting with my heart here. I think I'm betting with

40:02

my heart here. Oh,

40:05

and we're doing this. Fagula to

40:07

beat Eiga? This is a

40:10

good, this is a good, this

40:12

is so stupid. This is

40:14

a good chance to plug our redraw show.

40:16

So basically all the things that John and

40:18

I, all the picks that John and I

40:20

fuck up, we're gonna come early second week

40:22

and basically make fun of ourselves and then do

40:25

a redraw from, I

40:27

don't know, Brata16 or Kordo's on, whatever producer

40:29

Mike decides. Yeah, it'll be, it'll be, we'll

40:31

record it next Monday, put it out quickly.

40:34

Fagula's in the final, guys. Wow.

40:40

You're so triggered by that call. This,

40:43

remember how much shit you gave me for

40:45

the good vibes of Rafa beatings of Aarif

40:48

and going with Karma and

40:50

Heart Overhead? I

40:54

think there's a real, you ever see the

40:56

stat where like, if you're an 80% free

40:58

throw shooter, right? Pretty

41:01

good. Four out of five shots go in. If

41:03

I give you three free throws, the odds are

41:05

better than 50-50, you're gonna miss one. And I

41:08

feel like that's a little what's going on with

41:10

Eiga. Like you can't keep, I

41:13

think she wins each one of these matches

41:15

independently, but there's enough of a, there's

41:17

enough of a missed potential. You're going to get the

41:20

final. I gotta get through though, I gotta

41:23

say. I mean, I picked Fagula in

41:25

the final and I think she's like 55-45 to be

41:27

bolter in the third round. So

41:29

I don't know how this works. When you

41:31

actually, when you're not, when you

41:33

actually write out a draw, like we're doing and

41:35

it's a live thing, you have to fill in

41:37

each section and you're not just lazily going, pick

41:39

a winner, pick a dark horse like every other

41:41

analyst on earth. And that's how they do their

41:43

show. It's really easy to sit here and

41:45

go, like

41:48

that I can do. But when you

41:50

actually fill out the balls and strikes of tough third

41:52

rounds, tough fourth rounds, tough quarters, it becomes a lot

41:54

more complicated. And you end up with picks where you're

41:57

like, how did, how did I get here? Exactly.

42:00

Pagoula's never been past the quarters and I have her in the

42:02

finals of Wimbledon. Like how does this work? Well

42:05

and there's the variable of injury, right? I

42:07

mean... That's why I have Robocana. I'm like

42:09

is she gonna show up? Is she gonna... I'm

42:12

a crazy person for not taking Robocana. But

42:14

is she gonna get to the quarters? Is she gonna

42:16

play... Like what's her state of mind? How are we

42:18

doing this? I have Pagoula in

42:21

the final. I

42:23

have Pagoula in the final. All right. What about the

42:25

other side? Wait, is this... Sabalenka's in the

42:27

final. I have Sabalenka beating Pagoula in the final. That's

42:31

it. So I have Zeng, Sabalenka up

42:33

top. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah, seriously.

42:35

Man, that was rushed. What? All

42:37

right, talk us through it. Talk us through it. Yeah,

42:39

what's your other quarter? There's nothing to talk through. I

42:41

have Queen Wen and Sabalenka in the quarter. This

42:45

part is like... So you're hearing

42:48

like the angsty picks. Also

42:51

unlike most analysts, the ones I'm not confident in, I

42:53

think I talk through more. As

42:55

opposed to I like Sabalenka going

42:57

through... I think

42:59

she's the favorite against anyone. She's

43:01

the most... I think she's the

43:03

most bankable name in

43:05

this draw currently. Played

43:08

a match against Kazakina in Berlin, crushed

43:11

her, and then said, listen, I'm mentally

43:13

fried. Like I need to just

43:15

take a minute before Wimbledon

43:17

let my body reset, which I think is a mature

43:19

decision. Like I'm not going

43:22

to take anyone over her. I think

43:24

she has a decent draw to get

43:26

to the quarters against Zeng. And

43:29

then I just like her up there. I like

43:31

the matchup against... I have Coco in the semis

43:33

against beating Andrescu in the quarters. And

43:36

then... So I rushed through it

43:38

because it's like one of the ones that makes sense to

43:40

me as I'm looking at it on the draw, maybe more

43:42

so than any other part of the draw that I've looked

43:44

at. I like Sabalenka through.

43:47

I think Sabalenka is going to win Wimbledon this year. JW,

43:50

who do you have at the bottom half there? I

43:54

hate the variable of injury. Sabalenka

43:56

complained about his shoulder. We don't

43:58

like... Shoulder plus tennis is

44:01

a bad combo, but I don't know if she's

44:03

just resting it for 10 days.

44:06

I really like Coco in part because of her

44:08

draw. I also think, I mean, tell me I'm

44:10

reading too much into this, but there's one player

44:13

that really bedevils her and that's Eiga. I mean,

44:15

this is like Serena Sharapova stuff. I mean, this

44:17

is really a bad head to head. Sure.

44:20

I don't know what you mean. Does it not?

44:22

Well, I mean, there's one player in the draw who really... Yeah,

44:24

exactly. But does it not give her some

44:26

solace knowing I am not going to play this player?

44:28

That got super awkward when you were saying that, didn't it? A

44:31

little bit. We're talking women's

44:33

tennis here. I don't know.

44:36

I think, I mean, you know, again, let's

44:38

also back up and do

44:40

note that last year, the player that won

44:43

this event was unseated,

44:45

had a losing career record at

44:47

the tournament. So no

44:49

one knows shit about shit, but I think I

44:51

really like Coco to get to the final. Wow.

44:56

So you have Coco Eiga. Are you going to do the thing? Are

44:59

you going to put Coco in the final and then have her upsetting Eiga in the finals of

45:01

Wimbledon? Precisely. You

45:03

bet. Don't criticize

45:05

me for betting with your heart and then do

45:08

this. Like literally roll back the tape here. This

45:10

is where you edit. You do

45:12

the Wayne's World thing where you go back in time, Mike. And

45:15

then you play what he said where he was just ripping on me for

45:17

betting with my heart. And then he just did that. Coco's

45:20

going to have a nice first week. She's going

45:23

to get her teeth into this tournament. Brad's

45:25

going to get in her head and give her the pep

45:27

talk. She's relaxed, knowing she doesn't have to

45:29

play Eiga. If she plays her at all, it's not going

45:31

to be until the trophy is on the court. Then

45:34

all she has to do is win 12 games. You

45:36

know what I've realized? Boom. Doing these

45:38

draw shows with you. You know what I've realized? Is

45:41

that you start at the

45:43

story that you want to write. Whether

45:46

it's, whether it's the sending is whether

45:48

it's raw. Last

45:51

one you start where you work backwards from

45:53

you're giving up the game. It

45:55

blows the roof off of tennis of Coco. Oh,

45:58

how do we make it even more dramatic? Let's

46:00

let her beat. Eiga who is her mental like,

46:02

you know, taking up a lot of brain space. All right. I'm

46:06

cooking popcorn for this, John. I love it. You're giving

46:08

up the game here. That's,

46:10

that's the key to a media. You

46:12

don't root for players. You don't have

46:14

it. You root for storyline and Coco

46:17

awarding Eiga in the final. Doesn't get

46:19

better than that. True.

46:23

But I like, but

46:25

I have a one word counter. All right. One

46:28

word counter. So,

46:31

so this is, this is actually like Mike, I

46:33

don't know if we can release this. I think I'm embarrassed

46:35

by all of our picks. So

46:38

you got Saba link over over. I

46:40

have Saba link over. And then

46:42

John has a Coco over Eiga on grass. All

46:46

right. We got a redraft show in a week so we can, uh,

46:48

we're going to pay for this. Yeah. We're

46:50

going to have that. Right. So we're going to have a redraft show. We're

46:53

going to have a redraft show. We're going to have a redraft show.

46:55

We're going to need a redraft show. Right. I

46:57

need a break before we go on to the meds. Let's

47:00

take a break. I need to like,

47:03

I need to, I need to come to terms with, uh,

47:06

our decision. Uh, we will be right

47:08

back with more served presented by Oslo

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right. Welcome back to serve presented by

47:17

Oslo sleep buds. Um, unfortunately

47:20

after, uh, after

47:23

those picks, I think they're going to dump us. Um,

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I think they're so embarrassed by what we just did

47:28

in the last segment that I

47:31

think we're, I think we used to be

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presented by Oslo, uh, sleep buds. I will

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are excited about their product, uh,

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47:47

so I was dialed, right? Oslo

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sends me this beautiful package of which I think

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John was just holding it up. And

47:55

we traveled overnight flight. First time our kids

47:57

have been on, you know, uh, to

48:00

Europe, so making sure they're sleeping, kind

48:02

of rattled, leaving 18,000 suitcases as

48:06

we're leaving the house. And

48:09

what did I do, Mike Hayden? I needed it,

48:11

I needed the sleep buds, and what did I

48:13

do? I

48:16

f***ed him in my

48:18

checked bag, like a moron. And guess

48:20

how many, without those sleep buds, guess

48:22

how many minutes I slept on

48:25

the flight? Yes. If

48:28

you said one, you guessed too

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high. It was a

48:32

big fat zero burger. You were missing

48:35

out on the built-in noise-canceling,

48:37

wonderfully relaxing, babbling brook

48:39

sound effects. As

48:42

I told our friend when we

48:44

were getting through this deal, it was like, I

48:47

sleep next to a babbling brook every night. And

48:53

I hope she doesn't listen to this. Or

48:55

I hope she's in the next room, I hope she doesn't hear

48:57

me doing the show. But

48:59

you guys have used them, right? JW,

49:02

did you? Yeah, I am not

49:04

merely clairvoyant. I'm not just clairvoyant,

49:06

but well rested. No, it's awesome,

49:08

seriously, here, I'll hold, do

49:10

you have yours? Mike, do you

49:13

got yours? Yeah, I got mine. They

49:15

do have a babbling brook. It also

49:17

Bluetoothed into your favorite podcast. I

49:20

went to bed last night with the ever-relaxing

49:22

served with Andy Roddick. It was so relaxing,

49:24

put me. You know what's not relaxing

49:27

is John's picks. Those aren't relaxing.

49:30

Speaking of picks. I don't like

49:33

my picks either, to be fair. All right, let's get to

49:35

the guys. Thank you

49:37

to Ozil Sleepbuds for giving us

49:39

some swag, and at least

49:41

giving two out of the three of us some sleep. The

49:43

other one is a moron who

49:46

packed it in the wrong bag. But

49:48

I will not make that mistake again. All right, let's

49:50

get it, let's see. I know who the top seat

49:52

is. I know who I'm gonna look at first. Yannick

49:54

Sinner, Huffman. Oh

49:57

my God, Baratinean Sinner second round.

50:01

Oh, that's the one. That's why you that's

50:03

why you had that it's shitty can grin on your face. Oh,

50:07

that's a big one. All right, obviously center but

50:09

I mean, I'm not I listen, I love Baratini

50:11

on grass. I think he's two time

50:13

Queens winner Wimbledon finalist like great,

50:16

great grass court player but like I obviously can't

50:19

pick against center off of the heels of holly

50:21

being number one of the world I just but

50:23

that's not that's not the second round that that

50:26

center's team wanted to see. I'll tell you that much

50:28

right. We

50:31

just stopped to note

50:33

sidebar, what an absolute star

50:35

model Baratini is now that you're in Italy,

50:37

you're going to see this guy. And

50:40

I'm always thinking 99 of 100 people that walk by

50:42

the Hugo Boss billboard or see this guy

50:44

on a bus with a fancy Hugo Boss watch

50:46

do not realize this is a former top

50:49

10 player in Wimbledon finalist. So if he doesn't make it

50:51

past the second round, at least he has a lucrative

50:54

modeling career. But yeah, imagine being

50:56

the state,

50:58

you know, the stallion stalwart and you've reached a

51:00

Wimbledon final and you're feeling healthy and you're finally

51:02

back and then you find out you have to

51:04

play the other Wimbledon's the

51:07

other Italian who's the number one seed

51:09

in the second round. That's a it's a rust

51:11

for both of these guys. So it was bigger

51:13

in Italy is center. You

51:17

know, it's so far you were going through that thing with

51:19

Baratini's plot linker and the only thing I had in my

51:21

head as you're going through it is

51:25

actual fan of the show. Ben

51:28

Stiller and Zoolander going, Baratini

51:30

is really, really, really, really,

51:32

really good looking. Well

51:36

played. All right,

51:38

Greeks for through to the third round.

51:42

There is some scar tissue there. They played first

51:44

round of Holly and center lost the first set.

51:47

Greeks for tends to get leads against guys

51:49

in the top five and then he hasn't

51:52

beaten a guy in the top five center,

51:55

center chicken dinner through to the fourth

51:57

round. Nico Jari, your

51:59

guy. Hey, what's that

52:01

sound I hear? It's the upset

52:03

whistle. Yeah. Well,

52:05

I don't know. Did you learn your lesson from Roland

52:08

Garros? Cause you were kind of a... I'm

52:10

down on my

52:14

passion for Chileans now runs as thin

52:16

as the country is itself. I'm

52:21

over Chile. I've had it with those guys.

52:24

I'm going Chappo over... Yeah, me too.

52:26

Very. Chappo former

52:28

semi-finalist at Wimbledon. Altmeyer. That's not going

52:30

to do any... Lloyd Harris. Mikkelsen.

52:33

Alex Mikkelsen can play on the surface.

52:38

Mikkelsen. I have Mikkelsen Chappo in the third

52:40

round. I'm taking Mikkelsen in Ben Shelton section.

52:42

I don't like doing it. I love Ben

52:44

Shelton, but he

52:47

has not shown us enough on

52:49

the grass. First round of Queens.

52:51

Another very ordinary loss last week.

52:53

All job. As well. Yeah. Which who'd never

52:55

want to match on tour. I don't think before at tour

52:59

level. So Chappo Mikkelsen, I

53:01

don't know who I like in that one yet. I'll

53:04

go... I'm

53:07

going... I mean, this is probably just a Homer

53:09

pick, like fellow American. I'm going Mikkelsen to the

53:11

fourth round and I'm going center obviously

53:14

through that one. Dimitrov.

53:19

Manarino is normally really good on grass and he

53:21

hasn't won many matches so far this season. He's

53:24

playing the... This is the

53:26

men's 35 championship here. This

53:31

is the La Mare Club

53:34

Championship. Exactly. My

53:36

feet's against Manarino, right? They're going

53:38

to have cocktails on the 17th

53:41

green afterwards. I'm

53:43

taking Manarino. I'm taking Dimitrov

53:45

through this section though. Like Dimitrov

53:48

I have in the fourth round. Lejovich,

53:52

Garin, Walrinka,

53:56

Manarino. I

53:59

like Manarino. I like Dimitri off in

54:01

that section. You

54:04

don't like the career slam for Stan. He's

54:07

only one Wimbledon away. No, I

54:09

don't. I don't. Oh, this is a tough one, man.

54:11

This is a really tough second round too. As we

54:13

look down to this next, the triple Z and

54:16

he played great in

54:18

where was it? Hall, I think. Triple

54:22

Z and Strouffee. Ooh, second

54:24

round. Two sleepers, huh? Yeah,

54:27

I just don't know enough about triple Z.

54:29

Like I saw him when he was playing,

54:32

he played Eubanks, Eubanks serve for the match, but

54:34

Eubanks is a grass quarter who you think of.

54:37

He transitions into the net a lot. He doesn't actually

54:39

serve in volley a ton. Maybe

54:42

situationally, he does a little bit.

54:45

Curious to see how triple Z, I don't know

54:47

how he fends off serving voliers. Like quick return,

54:49

quick off the mark passing shot.

54:53

I'm going Strouff, third

54:55

round, upset triple Z. This

55:00

is it, I'm going, you

55:03

guys are gonna think this is nuts. Daniil,

55:08

who you know, I love, Mevadev

55:11

Muller. Okay, so I have Mevadev

55:13

Strouff. I'm

55:15

going Strouff to the fourth round.

55:18

Ooh, that's an

55:20

upset pick. It is,

55:22

that's probably dumb. So I have Dimitrov

55:24

Strouff. I'm gonna take Dimitrov

55:26

just because I feel like he's more likely to get

55:28

to the fourth round, not because in that individual matchup,

55:31

but I think he's most likely to get

55:33

to that fourth round because Strouff obviously has

55:35

Mevadev, triple Z. That's a pretty

55:37

big cause, but I have Sinner,

55:39

Dimitrov on the top, the

55:42

Chuckster. This

55:45

is, this is the second quadrant. We're

55:47

starting now, right? This is, yeah, this,

55:49

so I'm going second quarter. Al-Qur'az

55:55

is just going through. That's a pretty

55:57

comfortable draw. I don't know, like.

56:00

that much qualifier from Estonia, but

56:03

I don't think that it will

56:05

matter. Tiafoe

56:08

obviously has been struggling as the seed in that section

56:10

is normally very good on grass, has

56:12

had, I'm sure he would tell you he's had a

56:14

bad year. By

56:16

his standard, right? You're a victim of your

56:18

own shadow sometimes, and then got

56:21

hurt in Queens. So

56:24

Arnaldi, even that one, like I don't know

56:26

if I like Francis, I don't know how

56:28

healthy he is. I don't even

56:30

know how well Arnaldi plays it, just know that that's kind

56:32

of, that's a little bit of a

56:34

struggle in the goo right now. Chorich,

56:38

I guess I'll take Chorich to third round, even

56:40

though he hasn't been playing well. Alcaraz is in

56:42

the, he's gonna do it. That's a nice draw,

56:44

right? For defending champion. That's a

56:46

comfortable draw. Umber who

56:49

normally is streaky on fast courts, I haven't

56:51

heard his name in like six

56:53

weeks. He

56:55

played okay at Monte Carlo, and then he's kind of

56:57

been a little bit slow since then. Oh,

57:00

there's one. Okay, we got him. Ooh, Nakashima,

57:03

so sorry. By, dead

57:05

by as I'm in that next little section

57:08

down, I have Alcaraz in the fourth round.

57:10

That's an upset pick, right? That's enough. Nakashima

57:12

can play on grass, by the way. Yeah,

57:14

exactly. Almost be curious the year that curious

57:16

in the round of 16, was it? Yeah, there

57:18

were two years ago. Yeah, two years ago. Yeah, round

57:21

of 16, he lost to curious in five. But

57:24

then he played Jordan Thompson second round. That's

57:28

a tricky little section. Those are two really

57:30

good grass court players. Umber,

57:33

I'm thinking about three or four Aussies to keep

57:35

an eye on, I would say, and Jordan Thompson

57:37

is one of them. Gosh,

57:41

it's tough. I'm going, okay, this is, you

57:43

got, you guys are gonna hate this. Umber

57:47

is gonna get through.

57:50

I have, I'm taking,

57:52

you guys are gonna like, this,

57:55

I hate this so much. I'm

1:02:00

not a rude bluff full believer, but for sure

1:02:02

worth on what do you got? Yeah Rublev

1:02:06

second serve your

1:02:08

boy grass court moussetti was knocking

1:02:10

down Grassetti

1:02:13

was knocking down one one-handed returns. I'm

1:02:15

gonna have more faith in your guy

1:02:17

than you do. That's what I'm

1:02:19

gonna do I'm gonna flip your guy on you big low

1:02:22

moussetti fourth round Alright

1:02:25

grass good man Okay Davidovich

1:02:33

Fakina like sneaky beat her Koch first round who's

1:02:36

one of the top five or six grass core

1:02:38

players That low center of gravity

1:02:40

situation we were talking about. He has not

1:02:42

been playing well this year Okay,

1:02:46

I got my my second like kind

1:02:48

of upset controversial situation Yeah,

1:02:51

I think Sitzipos gets more credit on grass than he

1:02:53

deserves. I don't think he returns first serves.

1:02:55

Well at all I

1:02:57

don't think if he can't lean back in elevate

1:03:00

that that that back in I

1:03:02

don't know that I like it I think there's

1:03:04

been some turnover his trainer publicly calling him out

1:03:06

for basically Basically like the worst thing someone could

1:03:08

say about you if they leave your camp is

1:03:10

that I'm leaving your camp because you don't work

1:03:13

Hard enough That's brutal.

1:03:15

That would that would cause me so much

1:03:17

stress. I like sub-court on the

1:03:19

quarters I

1:03:21

argument Taylor Fritz render

1:03:24

Kinesh Taylor Fritz does

1:03:26

this make you nervous this Taylor Fritz match?

1:03:29

O'Connell No

1:03:32

lefty. I don't know The

1:03:35

lefty thing is really is really problematic for

1:03:37

guys that don't have a strong left hand

1:03:39

on their backhand side Right,

1:03:42

like you're serving someone pulls you up And

1:03:44

if you can kind of like and especially that flat

1:03:46

ball like I like playing lefties Even though my backhand

1:03:48

sucked because at least it was flat and punchy so

1:03:50

I could return I actually returned lefties better on my

1:03:52

backhand side on that wide one than I would on

1:03:55

my forehand side where I kind of had to like

1:03:58

Grind a forehand return and it was easy to

1:04:00

square up. I think Taylor has that thing. He has a

1:04:02

really strong left hand. He doesn't get beat for pace on

1:04:04

his backhand very often. He gets beat for movement, but that

1:04:07

doesn't start out. For the

1:04:10

record, Chris, I was thinking one for the record,

1:04:12

he's a righty, but one-handed

1:04:14

backhand. Got it. Well, one-handed backhand.

1:04:16

I knew there was something. Yeah, right. Nice

1:04:21

to see render niche. Remember, this

1:04:23

is the guy who had

1:04:25

to retire when he kicked this court

1:04:28

side signage leading the

1:04:30

match in Paris. Nice to see that has

1:04:32

not prevented him from playing the next major.

1:04:34

All right. This is going to be a

1:04:36

quick section for me. Tabilo,

1:04:39

great job in Rome. Dan

1:04:42

Evans is another person who fell at Queens.

1:04:48

Okay. Taylor

1:04:51

Fritz. Oh,

1:04:54

this is going to get really, I'm going to bet

1:04:56

with my heart here on this one coming up. Okay.

1:04:58

Taylor Fritz, I have him through to the fourth round.

1:05:00

The next section, Jack Draper. Ooh.

1:05:02

A lot of heat. Second

1:05:05

round, Battle

1:05:08

of the Brits, Jack Draper,

1:05:10

Cam Norrie. Very

1:05:13

interesting. Cam

1:05:16

Norrie. That's lefty, lefty.

1:05:18

That is one of the boards I saw. Number five

1:05:21

with the odds makers. That's

1:05:24

absurd. Absurd, right? I mean,

1:05:28

nice run up, nice game. Got a title. That's because

1:05:30

they have been

1:05:32

reading John Wertheim's mailbag about Jack Draper.

1:05:34

Let's guess they're Brits. You're

1:05:38

juicing the numbers there. All right. Do

1:05:41

you like Draper over Norrie? I do though.

1:05:43

Yeah, I do. Okay. And then Norrie's had

1:05:45

a rough year. So I'm assuming you

1:05:47

have Zverev through in his little section. Yeah. Marcus

1:05:50

Giron can play on grass, but I don't think he's going to

1:05:52

beat Zverev. Okay. Zverev

1:05:54

Draper. Zverev.

1:08:00

Murray, we don't even know if Murray's going to play. OK,

1:08:03

I have Hubie through to the

1:08:06

third round. I have Sarandolo. Mahat,

1:08:09

like I don't I don't know, I don't

1:08:11

think it matters as much. Mahat,

1:08:14

it's a huge ball and he's not a

1:08:16

huge guy. Yeah, I'll go. I'll

1:08:18

go him. I Hubie, either way, like he's he's in

1:08:21

the I like him in the fourth round in that

1:08:23

section, regardless of who he plays. OJ,

1:08:25

Ellia seems another guy who fell

1:08:28

in Hala and retired. FAA

1:08:32

D manure. OK,

1:08:35

I like I like the demon

1:08:37

in the fourth round against Hubie Hercoch.

1:08:41

And I need to think about that one first. Let's

1:08:43

look down at the bottom, which

1:08:45

means let's check out Novak.

1:08:48

Novak has a nice draw. I was

1:08:50

going to say, no, Novak can't compete

1:08:52

in Carlos can both go to Harry

1:08:54

David. Novak's someone

1:08:57

a fruit basket to look at this. He doesn't play a

1:08:59

top 100 player until the third round.

1:09:02

Yeah, Novak. OK, I'm I'm going to

1:09:04

pencil and obviously you banks is in

1:09:06

there. Very

1:09:08

capable and grass. Well, we'll

1:09:11

give banks some love. Holger,

1:09:14

Ronald, searching, searching, searching,

1:09:16

searching. Yeah,

1:09:20

but oh, OK, well.

1:09:25

Karen Hatchanoff is going to be in the fourth round.

1:09:31

Beating. You think

1:09:33

beating you banks? I have you banks in there,

1:09:35

but that could just be because I really like

1:09:37

you banks. Right. But

1:09:40

also, he's really good on grass. OK, so I'm going

1:09:42

to save everyone some time on

1:09:44

this next section. That's a

1:09:47

very great player. Novak, I like Novak. I

1:09:49

mean, maybe he has one leg,

1:09:51

I don't know. And I still have him. I

1:09:55

have Novak in the semis. If

1:09:59

he decides he's going to play. Novak,

1:10:02

do you have demon, demon hercotch, if you have

1:10:04

them in the fourth round, who do you like

1:10:06

there? I, I do. And I

1:10:08

have demon. I just, I don't trust

1:10:10

hercotch. I know big, big game success

1:10:12

on grass. I just don't trust him,

1:10:14

especially in a tight match. And I

1:10:16

think demon, especially

1:10:19

coming off a very nice Roland

1:10:21

Garros, but also he's a really

1:10:23

nice grass core player in the

1:10:25

movement in the street. Yeah,

1:10:28

exactly. The second week player last year and,

1:10:30

uh, well, I'll tell you this. If you're,

1:10:32

if you're Novak's crew and you get someone

1:10:34

who plays, you

1:10:37

know, kind of through the court, flat on

1:10:39

each side, moves well, or you get like

1:10:41

the biggest server potentially on earth, you'll

1:10:43

take, you want, if you're Novak, you want

1:10:45

that matchup against demon, I think, because demon

1:10:47

can't take the racket out of Novak's hand

1:10:50

in a hercotch, hercotch

1:10:52

can make it to where it's like all

1:10:54

of a sudden we're playing, we're playing a sets

1:10:56

from for all in a breaker, right? He can do

1:10:59

that to players. And then it's like kind of, you

1:11:02

know, you, you trim the margins and you get a

1:11:04

shorter shelf life. Uh, all right. So

1:11:06

I'll, I'll, I'll work backwards from the bottom half. Real

1:11:09

quick. I do have a question, you know, say

1:11:11

God forbid Novak is, is, is hampered or unable

1:11:13

to continue. He does play, but then is unable

1:11:15

to continue with the knee. Who do you see

1:11:17

coming out of that? And how does that affect

1:11:19

the lead up to the semis? I

1:11:21

think I like hercotch. If,

1:11:24

if Novak's not there, um,

1:11:26

he got a bunch of matches in. I, I don't

1:11:29

hate what John's saying as far as just trust

1:11:31

versus, you know, demon, et

1:11:33

cetera. I just think he just dumps

1:11:35

and he just throws bombs and he's going to

1:11:37

get looks at demon second serve hatch and off.

1:11:40

I think it's a pick them. Honestly, hatching

1:11:42

off his cable, make makes run at majors

1:11:45

can play the longer format. Um,

1:11:47

but I think Novak, if even close to healthy is

1:11:49

going to find his way through this tournament, I think

1:11:52

big, big deal is that the

1:11:54

first week, right? You're sure you're looking at first round,

1:11:56

second round, third round. I don't see

1:11:59

that those matches. that he's going to

1:12:01

be on the court forever if he's even close to

1:12:03

healthy. It doesn't look like the types of matches where

1:12:05

he's going to be pushed four or five hours on

1:12:08

that knee, which is obviously a bigger

1:12:10

deal now. Say something controversial.

1:12:13

When you have surgery, you don't want to play long matches. Crazy,

1:12:17

right? Funny how that works. Yeah. Novak-Herkach,

1:12:19

7-0 head to head for

1:12:22

Novak. But

1:12:26

yeah, I think, but I think Mike's

1:12:28

question is a good one, which is

1:12:30

basically we all

1:12:32

have great faith in Novak and his track

1:12:35

record speaks for itself. But if this injury

1:12:37

makes him a non-starter or

1:12:39

he plays 15 minutes, has a bad slip and

1:12:41

says, you know what, I want to play the

1:12:43

Olympics, no mas. It's a whole different conversation. And

1:12:46

also if you give me one name who I think will

1:12:48

be in the final from the bottom half, because

1:12:52

Novak is projecting strength and

1:12:54

health, practicing

1:12:57

with center, you don't take on a practice against the

1:12:59

number one player in the world if

1:13:03

you're not feeling okay. Because there are some psychological

1:13:05

things in play. So

1:13:07

if you're asking me, assuming Novak is

1:13:10

even close to healthy and he's

1:13:12

obviously going to play, which

1:13:14

is crazy considering where we were two

1:13:16

weeks ago, where I said something

1:13:19

nuts and said, that's a

1:13:21

short timeline. Three weeks from

1:13:23

surgery to first round, what was a short

1:13:25

timeline? And that got

1:13:27

me in trouble because that was

1:13:29

apparently a fucking stupid thing to say. It's

1:13:32

your west bias. Where

1:13:36

does that leave us? You've got a Rome pool

1:13:38

to get to. Where does this leave us? I have Novak in

1:13:40

the final. I have

1:13:42

Alcaraz center. Where

1:13:49

do you get? Center, Novak

1:13:51

final. And I've center winning the tournament, not because

1:13:53

I think he's better on grass than Novak. I

1:13:56

just think he's more likely to be there. No,

1:13:59

I'm, I'm I'm... PAP. So

1:14:04

you like, I just wanna do a redraw now. Now just right now.

1:14:06

Yeah, I was gonna say, it's the fact that I was gonna

1:14:08

say, we only do the redraw show in 20 minutes. We do

1:14:10

the redraw show in 20 minutes. We do an all cast after hours.

1:14:13

Everyone has to have an Ollie PAP, we'll do the re... I'm

1:14:15

gonna, so here's what I wanna say. I wanna, I'm

1:14:17

gonna like bitch out of this center

1:14:19

Alcaraz call a little bit, cause I do wanna see

1:14:21

them play. Like it does matter.

1:14:23

Like it's so, you can't, how am I picking

1:14:26

a, I mean, this is why it's dumb and

1:14:28

we're just guessing at a certain point. Cause

1:14:30

I'm gonna have 11 or 12 more days of

1:14:32

Intel if we actually get to this match. So

1:14:35

at Roland Garros, I picked center at the beginning of the tournament.

1:14:37

And then by the time the semis came, I'm like, I think

1:14:39

I like Alcaraz in this given match. Right?

1:14:42

So listen, it all changes. I

1:14:45

think the most bankable person coming into

1:14:47

this, most matches, good lead

1:14:49

up is center. But

1:14:52

I also think Alcaraz's draw is a lot

1:14:55

more straightforward than Yannick's centers. Dealing

1:14:59

with Baratini, dealing with a guy

1:15:01

he barely beat in three sets in Greek spore, Demetrov

1:15:06

versus, I

1:15:09

guess center, but I'm reserving the right to change that

1:15:11

based on the eye test and what I see for

1:15:14

the rest of this tournament. But I like whoever I

1:15:16

choose between center and Alcaraz. I like winning just because

1:15:18

of Novak's knee. I have him in

1:15:20

the final, but does that mean he's healthy? Does that mean

1:15:22

he gets there? There is, I'm gonna

1:15:24

say another thing. There

1:15:26

is a more than zero chance that

1:15:29

that knee will bother him and it will affect the tournament. Maybe

1:15:33

that's crazy. Is that just fucking

1:15:36

nuts, Producer Mike? The

1:15:38

37 year old with knee surgery might be

1:15:41

affected by the knee three weeks later. Man,

1:15:43

you are filled with hate today, Andy Rod.

1:15:45

Oh dude, it's coming for me. I feel

1:15:47

Block City coming. I'm gonna be like Matumbo

1:15:49

on Twitter. It was blocking fools.

1:15:52

Yeah, take John's advice finally. Yeah,

1:15:56

it's like, I say

1:15:58

something crazy like three weeks. short

1:16:00

turnaround we just don't know about Novak's Nanda like your kids

1:16:02

are assholes. I'm like all right. So

1:16:05

so John is that seems like the same? John

1:16:08

does that does your quarter semis champion

1:16:11

align with Andy's? It

1:16:13

does not but that's okay that's why we

1:16:15

do these shows. Tell us what tell us

1:16:17

what I missed. We have a uh we

1:16:19

have a defending champion who also won the

1:16:21

previous major who beat Sinner to

1:16:24

get there. Sinner who has a tougher draw

1:16:27

he plays a fellow Italian potentially

1:16:29

in round two. This

1:16:31

sounds silly in gossipy but it's logistically

1:16:33

his girlfriend is a seated player on

1:16:35

the women's side. I just

1:16:38

don't know why. His girlfriend is a seated

1:16:41

player on the women's side. He's got to sit

1:16:43

in a bar ask Alex DeMann or about that you

1:16:45

get a sit in the bar. Was she a seated

1:16:47

player at the French Open? When when I mean like

1:16:49

was she a seated player in Australia? Like has he

1:16:51

done this before? Is this his job? I'm just trying

1:16:53

to figure out why why things would change if

1:16:56

Alcaraz beat Sinner at a semi-final on

1:16:59

clay when Sinner won the previous major

1:17:01

why would this well

1:17:04

I think Alcaraz I think Alcaraz is significantly better

1:17:06

than Sinner on clay. I think that's

1:17:09

Sinner's worst service and it could be Alcaraz's best

1:17:12

service. I

1:17:15

don't I don't I don't I don't know what in the script

1:17:17

would have flipped where you

1:17:20

wouldn't it's like momentum investing.

1:17:22

Why would pick against Navidio when

1:17:24

it's on like I don't have

1:17:26

a good obviously I'm so I'm not

1:17:28

arguing against you all of your points

1:17:30

are valid past logistical even the girl

1:17:32

even the girlfriend one I think

1:17:34

I think will be fine. I don't think

1:17:36

that's a factor at all but

1:17:40

I don't know between Sinner and Alcaraz if we

1:17:42

get there. I want to see the eye test

1:17:44

you know we'll we'll see but I

1:17:46

don't know I do these shows or review these shows

1:17:49

and these live look-ins and I

1:17:52

feel incredibly insecure by the end of

1:17:54

them with my picks always and

1:17:57

they weren't horrible. at

1:18:00

Roland Garros, but you know Ben

1:18:03

worth on Does his picture?

1:18:06

Wait, all jokes aside I

1:18:08

mean I always try to make this point like look you

1:18:10

you can pick a winner It doesn't make you a genius

1:18:12

you can pick it doesn't make you a moron but For

1:18:15

the record, I think we actually did pretty well at Roland

1:18:17

Garros. No, yeah, you had a rough

1:18:19

first three days But then your guys held strong

1:18:21

after that And

1:18:24

then you're a We

1:18:28

Have this for a segue. We have

1:18:30

dipped our toes in this draw But

1:18:32

I want to see your kids cannonballing

1:18:34

into the pool in five minutes. The

1:18:36

kids will be cannonballing Very

1:18:38

shortly that I am confident in what I am

1:18:41

NOT confident in is Pretty

1:18:43

much everything that worth I'm and I have said

1:18:45

over the last hour and a half as I'm

1:18:47

looking at my sheets I

1:18:50

have lots of regrets I'm JW

1:18:53

final thoughts. When are you heading over to London?

1:18:55

And what's your program over there? Leaving

1:19:00

about 24 hours I'm getting

1:19:02

too old for these red eyes, but tennis

1:19:04

channel will have a six-hour show

1:19:08

Some people in Santa Monica some of us in

1:19:10

in Wimbledon always a fun

1:19:12

time of the year always a fun tournament and You

1:19:15

know, I mean part of Part

1:19:17

of what we love about sports is the fact they're

1:19:19

unscripted. So don't take any of these picks personally Alright,

1:19:22

well, let's I can't wait to see you

1:19:25

in our walk of shame through the

1:19:27

redraw show I'm

1:19:30

sure we will have plenty of tax text bent

1:19:33

But so as much banter as you give worth

1:19:35

I'm an eye on Twitter But you

1:19:37

can't match what the stick we give each other

1:19:39

when someone's pick loses like it just just so

1:19:41

we're all clear We're all in this together. We

1:19:43

do the exact same things that you're doing just

1:19:45

maybe We're

1:19:48

not quite as personal Anyways, but

1:19:51

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1:19:58

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