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Hey, John, how's it going, my friend?

0:32

Good, Sean. Thanks for having me on again. Yeah,

0:35

always great to see you and hear what you've

0:37

got to say. How

0:40

is the book doing? It's doing

0:42

well. Yeah, I keep

0:44

writing articles related

0:47

to MKUltra because sadly there

0:49

is so many MKUltra

0:51

projects still going on today, it appears.

0:54

A recent article I wrote

0:56

was about this

0:59

Father Maskell and this documentary

1:01

called The Keepers about

1:03

this priest who was abusing

1:06

tons

1:07

of young women, teen women

1:10

in a Catholic high school and

1:12

turns out had many connections to MKUltra,

1:15

the CIA's MKUltra

1:17

program. And of course,

1:19

Drugs as Weapons Against Us, my book and film, are

1:22

both about MKUltra, about the use of drugs

1:24

for unconventional warfare. And

1:26

so, because this guy was

1:28

apparently using drugs, including LSD,

1:32

hypnosis and raping

1:34

and selling these

1:37

teen girls to politicians

1:39

and police and other priests around the

1:41

city

1:42

and actually further around the East Coast.

1:45

And this documentary

1:48

about it

1:49

called The Keepers was nominated

1:51

for an Academy Award for Documentary in

1:53

our country. So, yeah, it's big

1:56

news. Congratulations.

1:59

We have had some great news. people aren't commenting

2:01

on that over the years. But

2:03

John, a lot of our viewers perhaps are not familiar

2:06

with MKUltra.

2:08

Could you just let them know how it started?

2:10

Yeah, so MKUltra was started

2:13

in 1953. It was a consolidation

2:15

umbrella project

2:17

of several others.

2:19

Programs are already going on such as Artichoke

2:22

and Bluebird.

2:24

These were CIA projects that were

2:27

trying to figure out ways to use drugs

2:29

to control people

2:31

and other projects

2:34

for the control of people

2:36

to use them as assets,

2:38

to manipulate them in different ways,

2:40

to use them for blackmail,

2:42

and to basically

2:46

also develop dissociative identity

2:48

disorder because of the drugs coupled

2:51

with serious sexual

2:53

abuse of kids anywhere

2:55

from age 3 to 18. Particularly 3 to 8 years old though can

2:59

cause

3:02

dissociative disorder, dissociative identity

3:04

disorder, and people may not know those terms, but they

3:06

used to be dissociative identity disorder used to be called

3:08

multiple personality disorder.

3:10

And so these women or men who

3:14

develop this disorder can

3:16

then be used as assets with one of

3:18

their personalities doing things that another of their

3:20

personalities doesn't even remember them doing,

3:23

where they can be manipulated

3:25

in dissociative states to do things that they don't

3:27

remember doing.

3:28

And so that's just one part

3:31

of MKUltra. But

3:34

in my book I showed how MKUltra started

3:37

in 1953 and then

3:40

in 1961, President John

3:42

F. Kennedy, who I hope to talk

3:44

about today too with you,

3:46

basically closed down

3:48

MKUltra and really tried to disintegrate

3:51

the whole CIA, as he had said at some

3:54

point,

3:54

but he closed down MKUltra, they ran it

3:56

behind his back, but he tried

3:59

to close it down a second.

3:59

in time before he was assassinated.

4:02

And they just changed his name to MK

4:04

Search and kept it going at least until

4:06

the mid-1970s when the Senate

4:08

Church Committee, U.S. Senate Church Committee

4:11

investigated it and, you

4:13

know, tried to expose much of it,

4:15

which they did in a number of reports

4:18

and which were somewhat

4:20

echoed in some mainstream media. But not a lot.

4:23

You know, most mainstream media didn't touch this issue

4:25

for fear of the CIA, you know, you know,

4:27

in their work with them and their control of the media

4:30

that, you know, things would happen

4:32

to them as individual journalists

4:34

and happen to their career. But, you

4:37

know, I showed the evidence that MK Ultra,

4:39

like other U.S. intelligence programs,

4:41

such as the FBI's counterintelligence program,

4:44

kept going at least until,

4:47

you know, one with FBI whistleblower, said

4:49

it went at least until the 1990s.

4:52

And I showed evidence that they kept

4:54

going until today. So.

4:57

John, I'm just wondering if these people who go

4:59

through MK Ultra are terminated

5:02

when their usefulness has expired or

5:05

are there any perhaps survivors of it that we could speak

5:07

to or maybe you've reached out to?

5:10

Yeah, well, look,

5:12

I did a personal interview with a,

5:15

one of the survivors of this Father

5:18

Maskell situation.

5:19

And this woman said that,

5:22

you know, they used hypnosis

5:25

and forced LSD on her first,

5:28

her,

5:28

this priest in her school,

5:30

kept, you know, giving her

5:33

drinks, dose with LSD, and

5:35

then manipulated a friend of hers, a really big

5:37

friend of hers to force LSD on

5:39

her in different ways.

5:41

And she says

5:43

that she was always worried as well as

5:45

a friend of hers who also went through this kind of

5:47

abuse by Maskell and others

5:50

that they were

5:53

programmed to react and do something

5:55

to certain, you know, signals

5:58

and certain, you know, numbers. that they might

6:00

hear. And so

6:03

she seemed to be a victim

6:05

who got out of it through extensive

6:08

therapy. Sorry about that, I'm gonna turn this off.

6:11

Through extensive therapy. And

6:14

that's what it takes to get

6:16

out of it. But,

6:18

and that's what I do. I do psychotherapy

6:20

for a living and I've helped a number

6:23

of trauma victims with something called EMDR,

6:25

eye movement desensitization and reprocessing.

6:28

But,

6:30

she's just one of

6:32

God knows how many that are still alive

6:34

today.

6:35

Though she's got in

6:37

recovery.

6:38

But people like Courtney Love is

6:42

most likely a victim of this kind

6:44

of MK Ultra. And the

6:46

evidence is that she's part of it all and just

6:49

doesn't know she's still part of it all

6:51

and is still wreaking havoc

6:53

as so. For example, in the

6:56

Jeff Epstein sex trafficking cases,

6:59

she was in his black book. She was one of the only women

7:02

that was circled as a material witness to

7:04

a lot of things that happened.

7:06

And so I can talk to you more about that

7:08

and the new evidence regarding Kurt

7:10

Cobain's case in that situation.

7:13

Yeah, we'll get to that. One of the viewers

7:15

is asking if you've heard of Kathy O'Brien.

7:18

I'm assuming she's perhaps an MK Ultra

7:20

survivor.

7:21

Yeah, she is a survivor. And

7:24

I've seen her videos and heard

7:27

her talk about it and she seems very

7:29

credible.

7:31

And she talks about some of the things that

7:33

happened to her and some of the ways the traumas

7:35

like heightened her senses. They increased

7:38

her vision. They

7:39

increased her memory. And basically

7:42

what happens is when we're traumatized,

7:45

it puts us into this vigilant,

7:47

intense kind

7:48

of awareness like

7:52

in fear that we're gonna be traumatized again.

7:55

And so it causes us to use, to

7:57

expand the use of our brain, to use more

7:59

of it.

8:00

And that's why people can be

8:02

in hyper-alert situations, have

8:05

a better memory, have improved

8:07

eyesight to be hyper-aware, you know,

8:09

wide open eyes, hyper-aware of what's going

8:12

on to try to, you know,

8:14

be vigilant about something happening again.

8:17

And I think, you know, she is a very interesting

8:19

case in that regard and talking about it.

8:21

It's great that she has been speaking out. I

8:23

don't know her story in extensive

8:26

detail because I investigated other stories,

8:29

but I think she is a very credible witness on

8:31

it all.

8:32

We've been asked whether Britney Spears

8:34

has gone through something like this.

8:36

Yeah, again, for her,

8:38

I didn't, you know, look at her case intensively,

8:41

but I do believe

8:43

that she is a case of, you

8:46

know, ritual abuse from early on,

8:48

from early childhood. And the way

8:50

she was assaulted was, you know,

8:54

what I believe she was assaulted was, as

8:56

part of the Disney's

8:58

traveling, you know, actors

9:01

and musicians and, you know, performers.

9:04

Disney has a traveling national

9:06

network of young performers. And

9:09

I counseled a woman who was part

9:11

of that, that is national performers,

9:13

and who had

9:15

clearly had some kind of dissociative

9:17

disorder going on.

9:19

She was, had an addiction going

9:21

on. She was,

9:24

you know, director of a regional theater

9:27

and

9:28

had extensive problems.

9:31

And I can't of course talk, you know, about

9:33

very personal details about her because I can't

9:36

reveal things about clients. But

9:38

she just was one example of,

9:40

you know, she of

9:43

child abuse

9:44

through Disney's national performing

9:46

network. And it was just,

9:49

you know, I've heard of a number of other performers

9:52

that were abused by their coaches, their,

9:54

you know, Disney coaches in those

9:56

national performing networks.

9:58

And they had dissociative disorder.

9:59

disorder, they have addiction issues and

10:02

you know from

10:04

what I've seen about Britney

10:05

Spears, she shows the you

10:07

know kind of the

10:09

behaviors of that

10:11

for sure. Right,

10:14

I'm going to have to view the quick question then. Do you

10:16

want us to start with Kurt Cobain? Put one

10:18

in the chat. Do you want us to start

10:20

with JFK? Put two in the chat

10:24

and all of John's links are in

10:26

the description box below this video

10:28

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10:29

please support his work.

10:31

How many books have you written now?

10:33

So Sean yeah I wrote two books,

10:36

the FBI War on Tupac Shakur and Black Leaders

10:39

which was kind

10:40

of bought

10:42

out by or just really just taken

10:45

by a new publisher

10:46

and transformed into just the FBI

10:49

War on Tupac Shakur, a call on

10:51

state repression of black leaders. And

10:55

then I wrote the second book I wrote was Drugs

10:57

as Weapons Against Us, The CIA War

10:59

on Musicians and Activists, of course has a longer

11:02

title which you mentioned which I appreciate. But

11:04

then I turned those two books into

11:06

films and then of course came

11:09

wrote another film and produced another

11:11

film that shot through janks the pandemics. But

11:15

so I think that the

11:17

you know

11:18

the key things I've been

11:20

focusing on are US intelligence

11:22

and particularly with around musicians and

11:25

other activists and the way that affects

11:27

the population. It's

11:29

almost unanimous for Kurt Cobain.

11:31

So let's just because a lot of people haven't seen you before on the channel

11:33

John, let's go over the basics first.

11:36

Sure sure. So

11:39

Cobain won. That was very democratic of

11:41

you Sean. Well

11:44

regarding Kurt Cobain,

11:47

he

11:49

was a kind of an activist anti-war

11:52

and civil rights activist inside. You

11:54

know he was just a activist

11:57

at heart I believe. He he

11:59

stated a lot of, you know,

12:01

pro kind of activist causes

12:04

early on from the start of his career,

12:06

saying, you know, he knew

12:08

about the media and how mainstream media

12:10

was just basically controlled. And

12:13

so he wouldn't wear, you know,

12:15

wouldn't get on the cover of Rolling Stone magazine unless

12:17

they allowed him to wear a t-shirt that says corporate

12:19

magazine still suck.

12:21

And of course, that's why it's so good to have media like

12:23

yours, Sean, that helps get the word out.

12:26

But he also had a set

12:29

in an interview that ended up

12:31

in a book that was a biography of Nirvana

12:33

before Kurt Cobain died

12:35

that he said that

12:38

he originally wanted to put all kinds of anarchist

12:40

essays and revolutionary essays

12:43

on the cover of Nevermind, you

12:45

know, Nirvana's album Nevermind, which was

12:47

a best-selling album, of course.

12:49

And, and, but he said,

12:51

we'd better hold off on that. You know,

12:53

I want to get more popular first so people take

12:55

it more seriously.

12:56

And so, you know, and he,

12:59

he mocked capitalist record,

13:01

you know, label owners

13:03

about them just being

13:06

wealthy and greedy. And

13:08

he supported causes for abortion

13:11

rights. He supported causes,

13:13

you know, anti-war kind of things.

13:15

He talked about

13:18

just a lot of good issues. And

13:20

he says he doesn't want anyone in his crowd that's

13:22

racist. He doesn't

13:24

want any one in his crowd that's

13:26

sexist. And so he just had

13:28

a lot of views that he expressed,

13:31

activist views he expressed.

13:33

And the ban after he died,

13:35

ended up supporting the

13:38

kind of strike, the big protests

13:40

for workers against the

13:43

World Trade Organization

13:46

when they were meeting in Seattle,

13:48

I believe it was not

13:50

maybe a year after, a few years

13:52

after Cobain died. And with, you

13:55

know, if Cobain was part of that, you know,

13:57

kind of, you know, big rally and protest.

13:59

Of course, that would have been much

14:02

more important and bigger, but of course

14:05

without COVID, Nirvana just wasn't the same.

14:08

And of course they disbanded. But so

14:10

I think that the key

14:13

about him is that he sadly

14:15

enough was duped by Courtney Love

14:18

into getting involved in heroin

14:20

because he had this massive stomach problem.

14:22

And the opiates,

14:25

he really saw hurt, solved his stomach

14:27

problem temporarily, because

14:28

he did not have a daily habit before

14:31

he met Courtney. He said in his diaries,

14:33

he said he only tried

14:34

heroin about three or four times. And just

14:37

because he was so desperate, he was throwing up all the

14:39

time. And his stomach problem was just, I'm just going to start

14:41

you briefly. For the purpose of this interview,

14:43

then, are we all right to say white,

14:46

brown and green instead of the actual words?

14:48

Otherwise YouTube will stop us. It

14:50

won't share the video. Sure.

14:53

White brown and green for what? Yeah.

14:56

For the various substances. So sure.

14:59

Sure. No problem. So

15:01

yeah. So let's

15:02

say he was so

15:05

Courtney Love started having him

15:07

take and Jack White

15:10

regularly, daily. And

15:13

so

15:14

he did develop a problem. And she

15:17

meanwhile grew up in a super wealthy

15:19

family.

15:20

She was,

15:23

you know, her mother admitted in a

15:26

biography that she was

15:28

probably abused

15:30

from the ages of about three years old onwards.

15:33

She said she wrote a letter to her biological

15:35

father saying she was sexually

15:38

and physically abused by her therapist from early

15:40

on. And she was seeing

15:42

therapists from the age of about three or four years old onwards.

15:46

And so that can cause dissociative

15:49

identity disorder. And meanwhile, by the time she was

15:51

a teenager, she was a prostitute. She

15:53

admitted being a prostitute in letters.

15:56

And she was a prostitute for Asian

15:58

mafia, believe it or not.

16:00

She said this in an authorized

16:02

biography that she was part of the white sex

16:04

trade,

16:05

white slave trade, she said,

16:07

in I believe it was Japan at the time. And

16:11

so, you know, she also,

16:14

it came out in

16:16

major biographies of her, that

16:18

she brought a thousand hits of LSD

16:21

to England

16:22

when she was 17 years old.

16:24

And why did she do that? You know,

16:26

was she just, you know, selling an

16:28

opportunist trying to sell drugs? But

16:32

what we find out from her biological father

16:34

is the fact that he says he had

16:36

letters to prove it. Now he's passed now Hank

16:39

Harrison. But he said he incidentally

16:41

introduced Courtney Love to a

16:43

guy named Stephen O'Leary

16:46

when she was 17 years old and visited him in

16:48

Ireland. And Stephen O'Leary was

16:50

working for the government, making weekly

16:53

reports to the embassy

16:56

in Ireland, to the US embassy in Ireland

16:58

about things he was spying on in Ireland.

17:02

And so he said he admitted on his deathbed,

17:05

all this, and that he was traveling

17:07

with Courtney to England.

17:10

He took her to England where she passed out this,

17:12

you know, thousands hits of LSD, disrupted

17:15

bands, you know, disrupted the pogs,

17:17

disrupted, you know, slept with the drummer and

17:22

slept with loads of different musicians. And

17:25

musicians,

17:26

you know, from these, you know, like Adam Ant and

17:28

these other up and coming bands

17:30

from England who made it big

17:32

were really despised

17:34

her being over there and passing out so

17:36

many different drugs.

17:38

Now go back 30 years

17:40

from now, this was in 1980s. And you go back,

17:43

as I say, about maybe 40 years or

17:45

so, and you see that

17:47

what happened with MK Ultra is the assistant director,

17:49

a guy named Robert Lashwood,

17:52

Lashbrook, I mean, I'm sorry, according

17:55

to Ernest Hemingway's editor, A.E. Hotchner,

17:57

who came out with a biography at the Rolling Stone.

17:59

and the whole music scene in England.

18:02

He says Robert Lashbrook took

18:04

tons of LSD

18:06

agents and money to

18:08

London in 1965 as

18:11

part of M.K. Ultra, you know, and

18:13

tried to get them LSD in

18:15

as many musicians hands as possible. So here

18:17

is Courtney Love

18:18

duplicating that activity, that behavior.

18:21

And the reason obviously is to manipulate

18:24

and disrupt things and use

18:26

musicians who are beloved by many to

18:28

popularize acid to disrupt people's

18:30

minds with acid.

18:32

And so I show all kinds of evidence of that

18:34

throughout my book, but with Courtney

18:36

Love, she ended up doing it in London,

18:39

then she ended up, I'm sorry, in England,

18:42

and she ended up doing in Manchester, I believe it

18:44

was, but she ended up doing it through many top

18:46

music scenes in the United States.

18:48

She went through to Portland,

18:51

she went to Los Angeles, she went to obviously

18:53

Seattle,

18:54

and did the same thing, passed

18:56

out drugs like candy. LSD,

18:59

opiates, you know, painkillers,

19:01

all kinds of things. She had tons of drugs on her all

19:03

the time just as a teenager. You

19:05

know, where does this woman get so many different drugs?

19:10

And then she married the top punk

19:12

musician in

19:13

Los Angeles who thought,

19:15

you know, he thought he was marrying a left-wing,

19:17

rebellious woman, and it turns out

19:20

he called her a right-wing Phyllis Diller.

19:22

She said she slept with

19:24

generals, army generals in Alaska,

19:27

and they told her why wars are

19:29

good for us, you

19:30

know, good for America,

19:32

and so she was just, you know, ridiculous,

19:35

and he finally got away from her and divorced

19:37

her, and then she goes and finds the top musician

19:39

in Seattle, who

19:40

was, of course, Kurt Cobain, and

19:42

latches on to him when Nirvana's

19:44

Nevermind was rising up the charts really fast,

19:47

and convinces him to, you know, use

19:50

heroin daily. But a year before he

19:53

died, Cobain

19:55

got off of heroin. He found his cure

19:58

for a stomach problem.

20:00

He said this in interviews and he found

20:02

a cure for his stomach problem. And a month before

20:04

his death, Cobain's death, he, you

20:06

know, he had gone to the hospital in

20:09

Rome, yet he overdosed on

20:11

Rohitnal,

20:12

and it was Courtney's prescription

20:14

Rohitnal that she got because it's legal in

20:17

England. It's not legal in the United States. And Rohitnal's

20:19

Rufis.

20:20

It's sleeping medication, but they're called Rufis

20:22

because people use them to

20:24

put them in people's drinks and they don't remember

20:26

what happened, you know, but they're

20:28

passed out from the Rohitnal, the Rufis. And

20:31

then, you know, they rape them, you know, and

20:33

it's horrible. But

20:35

so she apparently put tons of Rufis

20:37

or Rohitnal in his drink.

20:39

He went into a coma

20:41

and people acted like it was a suicide

20:43

attempt, but it was her Rohitnal.

20:45

They found no other

20:48

illicit drugs whatsoever in Cobain's

20:51

body at that time, even though he was on tour

20:53

with Nirvana through Europe. And this was, you know,

20:55

in Italy at the time. He was playing concerts

20:58

in Italy. And everyone

21:00

said that he was not using any drugs. All

21:02

the musicians were smoking weed or drinking, and

21:04

he wasn't touching anything.

21:06

And he

21:08

was divorcing Courtney at the time. He

21:10

just wanted to see his daughter, and

21:13

Courtney had his daughter, so she brought the daughter

21:15

over to see him.

21:17

And so it's really, that

21:19

was probably first murder attempt number one.

21:22

And then

21:24

the second time, of course, worked.

21:26

Now, we've got witnesses such as

21:28

musician Ellen Hoke, who said,

21:30

she offered him some 60 grand

21:33

to kill Kurt Cobain.

21:35

Gave him a map of how to find

21:37

him in the house and everything else of Seattle.

21:40

And she, the newest, the

21:43

news on this whole case came out recently

21:45

with, you know, let's say six to 12 months, I'll

21:48

say, where the

21:50

FBI finally released some documents they

21:52

had on Kurt Cobain.

21:54

So they released about 10 or 12 documents, pages

21:56

of their file on Kurt Cobain,

21:58

and why they have a file on Kurt Cobain.

21:59

Kurt Cobain is, you know, another story, of course,

22:02

and it's a big story. But they have

22:04

a file. It's obviously they have many more pages

22:06

than the 10 to 12 pages I read.

22:09

And they were getting all kinds of

22:12

information from different sources

22:14

that you've got to investigate,

22:16

you know, Kurt Cobain's death because it does,

22:18

it appears to be a murder and not a, you

22:21

know, suicide.

22:22

And so it turns out at the time of Cobain's death,

22:25

she,

22:26

Courtney Love hired a detective,

22:28

Tom Grant, who was a private detective,

22:30

was formerly a murder detective

22:32

for the Los Angeles County Police Department.

22:35

Tom Grant ends up finding loads

22:38

of information

22:39

that, and loads of evidence

22:41

that Courtney Love played a part in her husband's

22:43

death. And he took it all to the Los Angeles Police

22:46

Department, he used to work with,

22:47

to the Seattle Police Department,

22:50

who, you know, didn't, you just ignored

22:52

him.

22:53

And, you know, and nobody

22:55

would look at it. Nobody would, you know, take it seriously.

22:58

And so

23:00

here was the FBI getting lots of this information

23:03

too, and Unsolved Mysteries did

23:06

some work on this case,

23:08

and hired the top forensic

23:11

examiner, Cyril Wecht, to look

23:14

at the case. And he said

23:16

he highly believed that Kurt

23:19

Cobain's death was staged

23:21

as a suicide to hide that it was a homicide.

23:24

You know, it was definitely a homicide, he believed.

23:27

And he was the former head of the American

23:29

Forensics Association, you know, for

23:31

studying people, you know, deaths. And

23:34

so this is just some of the evidence

23:36

that Kurt Cobain was actually murdered and

23:38

not, you know, wasn't a suicide.

23:40

Now, so FBI

23:43

says that they can't investigate

23:45

this because it's not in their jurisdiction.

23:48

And, you know, they say people

23:50

have to cross state lines for

23:52

them to investigate. And when

23:54

they cross state lines, they don't have to murder

23:57

anyone, cross state lines of murdering one, they just have

23:59

to.

23:59

to murder someone.

24:01

So Courtney Love went from Seattle. Elden

24:04

Hoek said on tape

24:05

for Nick Broomfield's film,

24:08

Kurt and Courtney,

24:09

that Courtney Love came from Seattle,

24:12

Los Angeles, visited him in

24:14

his record store and offered him $60,000 to kill

24:16

Kurt Cobain. And

24:18

that's all in film. And so

24:21

state lines were crossed. The plan was made for murder.

24:24

And the FBI says they can't investigate it. It's

24:26

a joke.

24:27

And so the FBI is covering up, obviously,

24:30

higher intelligence agents

24:32

like CIA.

24:34

And so the obvious

24:36

thing that was going on, and this was a pattern amongst

24:38

musicians, is they

24:40

tried to manipulate Kurt Cobain to

24:42

promote heroin, which he did inadvertently.

24:44

He didn't want to, but of course the media

24:47

talking about him using did promote heroin.

24:49

And use in America went

24:51

up drastically every year during

24:53

the 90s, from 91, 92, 93, 10% a year.

24:57

And we have this heroin sheikin

24:59

all over here and it's probably worldwide, of course.

25:02

And, but when, you know,

25:04

then when he sobered up, he

25:06

was a concern for promoting sobriety

25:08

and activism.

25:10

And he had to be done away with sadly

25:12

enough. And that's what, you know, appeared

25:14

to happen. Now, the other evidence, of

25:17

course, against Courtney

25:19

Love is the fact that, I mean,

25:21

there's more that's, that I'm gonna be coming out with

25:23

in a sequel to my Drugs as Weapons Against This Film.

25:27

But

25:28

the other evidence is the fact that,

25:31

you know, as I said before, that Courtney Love ends

25:33

up as one of the circled witnesses

25:36

in Jeff Epstein's black book. Okay.

25:39

Jeff Epstein, you know, the sex trafficker

25:42

and all. Yeah, we're banned from talking

25:44

about that case on this channel, John. No

25:46

worries, no more talk about it then. They,

25:49

YouTube terminated my channel twice over

25:51

it, completely. And no more talk about it then. And

25:54

it was the public, the public, the public,

25:57

the public has a lobby to get, the public

25:59

has a lobby.

25:59

to get the channel back.

26:02

Yeah, it was a crazy situation. Alright,

26:05

so let me just talk to the viewers then. So viewers,

26:07

we are talking to John Poteash

26:10

about

26:10

the mysterious death of Kurt

26:13

Cobain and the role of the CIA and

26:15

Courtney Love in it. If you've got any questions for John about

26:18

this subject because he is an expert on a lot

26:20

of subjects about Kurt Cobain and Courtney

26:23

Love in the CIA. If you've got any questions for John, please put

26:25

them in the chat

26:27

and we'll get them to him before we go over

26:29

to other conspiracies including JFK. So

26:32

the first question that's coming in John is

26:35

that is it is it because

26:37

she had friends in high places

26:40

that she did not face any consequences

26:42

for this?

26:44

Yeah, so I think she did have friends in high

26:46

places, but

26:48

I believe that she probably

26:51

because of her childhood abuse

26:55

and a lot of things I read about her. She probably

26:57

was suffering from dissociative disorder

26:59

or dissociative identity disorder

27:01

and I can't

27:03

go through all. I don't have time to go through all the evidence of that,

27:06

but I am a

27:07

licensed psychotherapist

27:10

in network with many insurance companies

27:12

and trauma is my specialty

27:15

and so I've seen the different

27:17

signs of dissociative disorder and

27:19

she appears to exhibit them

27:22

and so she probably didn't even

27:24

know everything she was doing

27:27

and so she was probably being

27:30

handled

27:31

and was the puppet of these higher authorities.

27:33

She had, you know, they call them handlers that

27:36

she had in her life and in my next

27:38

film, I'm gonna

27:39

you can see just even in my first film,

27:41

you can hear some names of

27:43

what might have been her handlers, but my next film

27:45

goes in a little bit more touches a little bit more

27:47

on those handlers

27:49

that are still with her, you know, can be seen

27:51

with her in videos today.

27:53

Loads of questions flooding in method wants

27:55

to know who would have instructed Courtney would

27:57

that have been the handlers? Yeah,

28:00

yeah, they will. They would have, yeah, they would have

28:02

manipulated her or instructed her,

28:05

you know, to own how to do things. But she,

28:07

you know, again, wouldn't have known exactly what

28:11

everything she was doing, except, you know, they

28:13

just guided her in whatever she

28:15

did to do what she did. I

28:17

mean, she was violently, brutally

28:20

violent against,

28:21

you know, Kathy

28:24

Hanna of Bikini Kill,

28:26

great musician. She punched her in the face

28:28

at the Lollapalooza, nowhere, and

28:30

Sonic Youth threatened to leave

28:33

his headliners for that Lollapalooza tour when

28:35

they saw that, because they were good friends with Kathy and Hanna.

28:38

And she, you know, would grab photographers

28:41

or journalists she didn't like and drag

28:43

them around by the hair, you know, female

28:46

photographers and journalists. And, you know,

28:48

there was all kinds of lawsuits

28:50

against her, but in charge, you know, but no

28:53

charges went through for all of

28:55

her brutality against so many other people.

28:59

Andrew wants to know, did you hear about her kidnapping

29:01

her daughter's husband and almost having him killed?

29:03

Yes, that's

29:06

an interesting case because

29:09

some of her handlers, yeah, I forget

29:11

the guy's name, but yeah, one of her

29:15

managers, I believe, or

29:17

talent, talent people, PR people,

29:19

I forget the guy's name now, was involved

29:21

in that, directly involved in that. And,

29:24

you know, in basically

29:26

kidnapping and trying to take things from

29:29

her daughter's husband.

29:30

And there was a big lawsuit

29:32

by him over that. And

29:34

hopefully that's going to reveal a lot more,

29:37

but I don't even know where that's gone

29:39

at this point in time. I see so many details

29:42

of it all, and I'm just, yeah, I moved on to other

29:44

subjects, you know, by that point in time.

29:47

Jake wants to know what specific evidence links

29:50

her to the CIA.

29:52

Yeah, so I said some of them, but I'll say them again for

29:54

sure. I don't mind. No question is a bad

29:56

question here, guys, so thanks for the questions. So

29:59

one of them is... that her biological

30:01

father, Hank Harrison, said

30:03

that, so somebody befriended him when he

30:05

was doing, writing a book and doing

30:08

research on a book in Ireland.

30:09

He was a therapist

30:12

and a writer, actually, this guy, Hank Harrison. And

30:16

he, so he's in Ireland. She comes to stay

30:18

with him in Ireland, and some

30:20

guy named Stephen O'Leary had befriended

30:23

Hank Harrison, saying, oh, I love the Grateful Dead.

30:25

And Hank Harrison used to be a manager for the Grateful Dead

30:27

when they first started.

30:29

And so Harrison said he didn't really think

30:31

much of this guy,

30:32

but he introduced him to his

30:34

daughter. This guy starts sleeping with it, the

30:36

17-year-old, you know, daughter of Hank Harrison's,

30:39

because

30:40

Courtney Love was sleeping

30:42

with tons of people. I mean, 17, it's

30:44

not a big deal, except she was a prostitute by that

30:46

time for the Japanese mafia, according to her different

30:49

biographies owner. And so nonetheless,

30:51

she was carrying a thousand hits of acid. And here this

30:54

older,

30:54

you know, this guy in his late 20s or so,

30:57

Stephen O'Leary takes her to London, and

31:00

where she distributes this acid to top

31:03

musicians, you know, I'm sorry, in England,

31:05

you

31:05

know, through, in top English music

31:07

scenes. And so that's

31:09

one. And so on

31:11

his deathbed, Stephen O'Leary said, I

31:14

was actually working for US intelligence at

31:16

that time. Said I was visiting the,

31:18

you know, I didn't really have a high position,

31:21

but I was, had to visit the embassy,

31:23

US embassy, once a week to give reports

31:25

on people. So he was spying in

31:27

Ireland for US intelligence.

31:30

And that's, you know, so he was

31:32

connected to US intelligence, most likely

31:34

CIA, because of this kind of activities

31:37

that CIA is involved in, like MKUltra,

31:39

you know, with passing out, you know, LSD

31:41

and stuff. The second link though is the

31:44

fact

31:44

that Jeff Epstein was

31:47

found to be part of US intelligence. The

31:51

Trump, President Trump's Labor

31:53

Secretary, Alxacosta said that

31:56

when he was vetted

31:59

for his position.

31:59

they said, well, why didn't you

32:02

go to, you know, why didn't you work harder

32:04

on the prosecution of Jeff Epstein at the time

32:06

when he was prosecuting him in Florida earlier,

32:09

early on when Jeff Epstein was like taken

32:11

to court in 2005. And

32:13

he said, well, I was told

32:15

that Epstein is US intelligence.

32:17

And he's got a much higher pay grade than

32:19

you do. So don't touch him.

32:21

And so here is Epstein's US

32:23

intelligence, Courtney Love's circled

32:25

as a material witness in what Epstein was doing

32:28

in his black book.

32:29

And Courtney Love, you know,

32:31

was obviously involved with Jeffrey Epstein

32:33

and what he's doing. We're gonna have to leave

32:35

that one there. Oh,

32:39

he's not so sorry, you told me that. I'm

32:41

so sorry.

32:42

That's all right. Adam Ant went bonkers,

32:44

didn't he? Do you think Adam Ant was

32:47

one of the victims? Well,

32:50

I think all of that scene, all

32:52

of those musicians in that scene were victims. Yeah,

32:55

Adam Ant, the drummer for the Pogues.

32:57

There was some other, Echo and

33:00

the Bunnymen. They were all targets

33:03

for Courtney Love, yes.

33:06

Imogen wants to know why Kurt didn't see

33:08

through Courtney. Kurt was ridiculously

33:10

intelligent.

33:12

I agree. Kurt was

33:14

ridiculously intelligent. And I

33:16

think he did see through Courtney. And

33:19

that's why he was divorcing her at the time

33:21

of his death. You know, I have,

33:23

in my film, you know, I have his

33:26

lawyer saying, you know, basically that

33:28

he was divorcing her and all.

33:30

And that was, you know, recorded

33:32

by

33:33

Tom Grant, the investigator.

33:35

And so the problem was

33:38

Kurt Cobain was just too nice

33:40

of a guy that when, you know, Courtney

33:42

Love did the old kind

33:43

of trick of getting pregnant

33:46

early on in their dating, he decided,

33:48

well, he's gonna do the right thing and marry her.

33:51

But then when she was

33:53

just so caustic and terrible in

33:56

their marriage, he, you know, said

33:58

he had to divorce her and he was divorced.

33:59

forcing her and that's what

34:02

happened. Yeah. Kim Smith

34:04

wants to know if Kourtney has a child.

34:08

Yeah, I mean, you know, Kourtney

34:10

and Kourtney do have a child

34:13

together who's an adult who we were

34:15

talking about got married to that

34:18

musician and, you

34:20

know, Francis Bean, Cobain, her name is.

34:25

Okay. And Linda

34:27

wants to know why the CIA could not just

34:29

use hypnosis without the abuse.

34:33

Well, they find that it takes

34:35

a few different kinds of, you know,

34:38

ritual

34:39

kind of techniques that help,

34:42

you know, someone become an asset and

34:44

only certain people like that here only 10% of the population

34:48

is so open to hypnosis that they

34:51

can just use hypnosis. And with most

34:53

people, they find it takes drugs and hypnosis.

34:56

Kim wants to know if Kourtney's mother

34:59

is a therapist.

35:01

Kourtney's mother appears to be

35:03

similar to her daughter is my understanding

35:07

because she ends up being

35:09

a therapist. Yes. For

35:12

some interesting people like one of the members

35:15

of the weather underground.

35:17

She was a therapist for one of them. And

35:19

that's similar to Dr. Jolyon

35:21

West, who

35:23

was a psychiatrist

35:25

and a psychiatrist for Jack Ruby when he

35:27

after he shot Lee Harvey Oswald, who

35:29

was supposedly, you know, JFK's

35:33

President Kennedy's assassin. And

35:35

so, yeah, I think she's a

35:38

therapist that controls some

35:40

political victims. Yeah.

35:42

See why it wants to know where

35:44

was Kourtney when Kurt died?

35:50

Kourtney was getting herself arrested

35:53

in, I believe, in Los Angeles at the

35:55

time to take away suspicion

35:57

from her being involved,

35:59

but she had a group of men that were

36:01

at her home that appeared to be involved

36:04

and that group of male heroin

36:07

addicts

36:08

who Kurt Cobain tried to fire

36:11

apparently

36:12

drugged

36:13

Kurt with diazepam with

36:16

benzodiazepine and then

36:19

grabbed him and forced things

36:22

to happen to him such as killing

36:24

him.

36:25

Stephen wants to know did the other Nirvana

36:27

band members know what was going on?

36:31

I don't know. I really don't know. I don't

36:35

think so but I just can't. I really don't know.

36:38

All right. We've now got about I know you've got so

36:40

many subjects you can talk about. We'd love to get you back

36:42

John. Let's for the rest

36:45

of it let's go over to JFK then shall we because

36:47

that's what we've scheduled. And Sean

36:49

I know about censorship so please keep cutting

36:51

me off if I get into things

36:53

that can get you censored.

36:56

It's a tough world out there these days for us people

36:58

trying to get the truth out. I

37:00

think we're safer. We're safer with JFK than.

37:06

So these are sad tragic

37:08

subjects from about people we

37:11

love and you know and you know yeah people

37:13

love Cobain. I love Cobain

37:15

was a credible talent incredible person

37:18

and of course JFK John President John

37:20

F. Kennedy.

37:21

Thanks Annabelle. So

37:24

I was going to say that President John F. Kennedy

37:28

was just so

37:30

so much more unbelievable than I realize when

37:33

I started researching all his history

37:36

and I didn't I in my

37:38

drugs as weapons against this book I got

37:40

a little bit into the JFK assassination

37:42

but I really covered more of

37:45

more put more pages into Robert Kennedy's

37:48

assassination because it was such a clear M.K.

37:50

ultra

37:51

tie on

37:53

that you know C.I. M.K. ultra tied

37:55

to his assassination because

37:57

Sir Hans Sir Ham was according to

37:59

a.

37:59

Harvard specialist, Harvard

38:02

psychiatrist,

38:03

he was clearly hypnotized. And

38:06

this Harvard psychiatrist spent 500 hours studying,

38:10

examining Sir Hans Serhan and

38:12

said that hypnosis was used

38:14

and drugs were used to

38:17

create Sir Hans Serhan as a patsy

38:20

for Robert Kennedy's

38:23

assassination. Robert Kennedy.

38:26

because we just interviewed a guy called Joey

38:28

Torres, as

38:30

we did three, four podcasts with him. He

38:33

served 10 years with Sir Hans Serhan.

38:36

And I'll send you

38:38

over what you said about Serhan, because it

38:40

ties into what you're saying there. Okay,

38:42

thanks,

38:43

Sean. So that sounds really interesting.

38:47

So yeah, so I ended up of course

38:50

studying, John F. Kennedy a bit,

38:52

but I befriended a guy

38:54

named the late John Judge was a

38:58

big researcher on President John F.

39:00

Kennedy's assassination and held annual conferences

39:03

and developed

39:05

a group called the Committee on Political Assassinations that

39:07

had Cyril Wecht as part of it. I mentioned Cyril

39:10

Wecht about Cobain's case. Cyril Wecht

39:12

was a top

39:15

medical examiner in the country and also

39:17

studied, he's in his 80s now.

39:19

So he was of age, he was a professional

39:21

when JFK was assassinated. President

39:24

Kennedy was assassinated and he studied the

39:26

autopsy when President Kennedy.

39:29

And so he came out in

39:31

a new film, a documentary series,

39:34

like a four-part, four-hour documentary

39:36

about JFK by

39:39

Oliver Stone.

39:40

And so Oliver Stone

39:42

hired a writer named Jim

39:45

Di Eugenio to write

39:47

that documentary that ended up

39:49

being four hours. And

39:52

so they first turned into a two-hour

39:54

release nationally and maybe

39:56

internationally, but then they later,

39:59

a year or two later, they...

39:59

They released the four-hour version. And

40:02

so I wrote a review,

40:05

a film review of the two-hour version

40:07

and Jim Diugino just liked what

40:09

I wrote and asked me could that please review

40:12

the four-hour version. So I

40:14

ended

40:16

up doing that. And it was

40:19

basically

40:20

amazing to hear President

40:23

John F. Kennedy's history as a senator.

40:27

He visited Vietnam

40:29

in 1951 with his brother Robert Kennedy who

40:31

was his top aide even back then

40:33

as a senator.

40:35

And they came

40:37

back just saying this is terrible

40:40

what imperialism

40:42

is doing to in Vietnam, what the French are

40:44

doing in Vietnam and

40:49

we should not get involved basically.

40:51

And then he also as a senator

40:54

spoke out against colonization

40:56

and imperialism by the US and

40:58

other countries. On the Senate

41:01

floor he gave a radical speech like

41:03

that in 1957 as a senator.

41:05

And he was shunned by Democrats

41:07

and Republicans alike.

41:09

And that's who he was

41:12

before he became president. It's pretty amazing.

41:14

I could not imagine today

41:16

a senator speaking out so bluntly

41:19

and directly against, you know, American

41:23

and European imperialism in other

41:25

countries in this way. And so

41:28

by the time he reached, you know, the presidency

41:32

he did run on a somewhat,

41:34

you know, basically a more moderate platform

41:37

to reach the presidency. But

41:39

once he was in he first was

41:42

pushed very hard by lots

41:45

of powerful forces to continue

41:48

with an operation that was already afoot

41:51

to invade Cuba

41:52

because of the Cuban Revolution.

41:54

So he agreed to do it but

41:56

he would not allow any aerial

41:59

strikes.

41:59

by any planes

42:01

and, you know, it's possible

42:03

he did that on purpose, you know, and

42:06

the CIA hated him for that because

42:08

it was obviously the Bay of Pigs was a big defeat,

42:11

but he was pushed into doing it by

42:13

the CIA. He fired the CIA director,

42:16

you

42:16

know, at that point in time,

42:19

Alan Dulles, because

42:21

of the whole debacle, but

42:23

wouldn't allow air coverage for that invading

42:26

force.

42:27

And when President Kennedy

42:30

was assassinated, Fidel Castro

42:32

said this is a terrible

42:34

day for Cuba and

42:36

the world.

42:37

So, you know, as much as

42:39

Castro was upset, of course, about him,

42:42

you know, with the Bay of Pigs,

42:44

Castro knew that he was the best

42:46

that America could offer.

42:49

And so, you

42:51

know, he was brokering

42:53

deals with Nikita Khrushchev, you

42:56

know, he was calling for the disarmament

42:58

of nuclear, you know, of all nuclear arms, dismantling

43:00

of nuclear arms.

43:02

He was

43:04

just doing a lot of great things.

43:06

You know, when I said before he was he

43:08

dismantled MK Ultra, that

43:10

was major. He was calling

43:13

for peace with the Soviet Union. He had

43:15

a speech calling for national health

43:18

care in the United States, you know, which never

43:20

happened. But for him to call for that in the early

43:22

1960s is amazing.

43:24

He says all the European countries have national

43:27

health insurance. You know, every industrialized country

43:30

basically has national health insurance except for

43:32

the U.S. And, you know,

43:34

he pointed that out in speeches. And

43:37

so there was lots of reasons for

43:39

the oligarchs, the corporate, you know,

43:41

owners, multinational corporate

43:43

owners in our country, the wealthiest in our country to

43:45

hate him for these things. He

43:47

also was first he thought that

43:51

he allowed what the generals wanted, which

43:53

was some incursions

43:55

in Vietnam. But then he started pulling

43:58

troops back out of Vietnam. and

44:00

he announced that we are going to have all troops and

44:02

leaving Vietnam within a year. And

44:05

so I have all that evidence of him doing

44:08

that in my book and film, Drugs as Weapons

44:10

Against Us.

44:11

And

44:13

that was a big issue because Vietnam

44:15

was part of the golden triangle for opium

44:18

and opium crops which produces

44:20

white, lots of white throughout the world.

44:23

You know, it was the biggest

44:24

trafficker of white throughout the world,

44:27

of opium and all throughout the world. And

44:30

so the powers

44:32

that be, I show evidence that they've

44:35

been long involved in opium throughout

44:37

the world. You know,

44:39

the wealthiest in our country and Britain

44:42

with the British East India Company, they

44:45

were always connected

44:48

and the wealthiest in our country are often called

44:50

Anglophiles because they love the loyalty

44:53

of Britain.

44:54

And they were all involved in the

44:57

opium trade and still

44:59

are. And there's still being JP

45:01

Morgan boats, owned

45:04

boats were caught with other

45:06

forms of white from

45:08

Latin America

45:10

and with tons of white in there,

45:13

you know, transporting trafficking

45:15

tons of white. And so this is

45:17

what we're dealing with. And

45:20

yeah, I'm glad you all just said about

45:22

the opium wars in Afghanistan.

45:24

So the two, you know, longest

45:27

wars in US history were Vietnam

45:30

and Afghanistan.

45:31

And it's no

45:34

coincidence that they are the sites for the

45:36

two best opium

45:38

producing, like poppy producing areas

45:41

in the world. They call them the golden

45:43

triangle for

45:45

poppies in Vietnam

45:48

area

45:49

and the golden crescent for poppy

45:52

production, you know, poppy growing in the

45:54

Afghanistan area.

45:56

And so yeah, that's part of

45:59

why they... they

46:00

assassinated him. Now, if you

46:02

look at the assassin, the

46:04

purported assassin, Lee Harvey Oswald,

46:07

he was working for the US government

46:09

on the YouTube spy plane

46:12

project

46:13

before he was, you know,

46:15

purported to be the assassin of

46:18

President Kennedy. And

46:20

then you look at Jack Ruby, who killed

46:22

Lee Harvey Oswald, the Patsy,

46:24

just a few days later. And

46:27

Jack Ruby was

46:29

an FBI informant.

46:31

Okay, he was working. I mean, he means he

46:33

was paid by the FBI.

46:35

And so this came out from a senator

46:37

who was investigating this, you

46:39

know, US senator was investigating this,

46:41

named Schweitzer. And he said that he found

46:44

he was told by FBI director,

46:46

J. Edgar Hoover, that, you

46:49

know, that Jack Ruby was a paid FBI

46:52

informant.

46:53

So this is some

46:55

of the way it all works. And,

46:57

you know, the CIA

46:59

was all over, basically,

47:02

that assassination. You

47:04

know, you had

47:06

just so many different

47:08

now, you know, in the documentary, the

47:11

interview, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. who says

47:13

that his dad,

47:15

the first thing he did after

47:18

the RFK, I mean, after

47:20

his brother was

47:22

assassinated was he called the CIA, and

47:25

he said,

47:25

tell me who was behind

47:28

this horror in your agency, basically,

47:31

you know, and,

47:33

and then they had two eight, two war

47:35

veterans who were part of security

47:38

for JFK and the car behind JFK

47:40

when he was assassinated.

47:42

And they both said there was a crossfire

47:45

of bullets that killed JFK,

47:48

President Kennedy, and not

47:50

the one lone assassin, Lee

47:52

Harvey Oswald from the sixth floor building

47:54

behind JFK.

47:56

And witnesses in that building said that

47:58

that Lee Harvey Oswald was

47:59

not on the sixth floor

48:01

from the place they said he was to

48:03

kill, you know, JFK.

48:06

And then you have a police

48:09

expert saying that,

48:10

you know, that

48:12

the gun that he was,

48:15

he originally found was not the same

48:17

gun they said

48:18

was used in the trial, you know,

48:20

like they brought out as evidence

48:22

of the gun that killed JFK.

48:24

And there's so many different

48:27

points of evidence that you can see

48:29

in, you

48:30

know, in this four hour

48:32

documentary to show that this

48:35

was all covered up.

48:36

JFK had hired a black security

48:39

guard, you know, basically, you know, pointed a black

48:41

security guard to be part of his detail. And

48:44

that black security guard said

48:46

he had evidence to show that it was

48:48

multiple gunmen that killed

48:50

President Kennedy.

48:51

And so when he came out with that, they jailed

48:54

him for some frivolous thing

48:56

and shut him up. So

48:58

there was just,

49:01

you know, there was that there was the

49:03

doctors that

49:06

that

49:06

that looked at President Kennedy

49:08

right after he was shot,

49:10

they said it was clearly a bullet

49:12

that came in through his throat, the front of his throat,

49:15

and also came in through the front of his head. And

49:19

that's what they first said. And then they

49:22

came, you know, people came down and said, No, you

49:24

have to change that to the back. And

49:27

so he was forced the next day to change it to the back.

49:29

But two people that were close with that doctor

49:31

said he admitted that, yeah, they made him

49:34

change what he you know, what he examined,

49:36

what he said about the bullet entry wounds

49:39

in his examination of JFK's body

49:41

after the assassination.

49:43

Then the piece of his head end up on the car and his wife

49:46

scrambled out and grabbed it.

49:48

Well, I don't believe

49:50

his head ended. I don't

49:52

think he came completely off now and ended up on

49:54

the car. But basically, like a fragment or something.

49:57

Oh, yeah, yeah, a piece might have come

49:59

off for sure.

49:59

Yeah, no doubt. And

50:01

she was just, I don't know if she grabbed

50:03

it, but I know she was filled with blood on her coat.

50:06

And she, after the

50:09

assassination, she said, they

50:13

said, don't you want to change your coat

50:15

when you speak to one camera

50:17

after this all happened?

50:19

And she said, no, I'm not changing my coat.

50:21

I want to show the world

50:24

what they did to him. And she said they

50:26

did to him. She knew it was multiple gunmen and

50:28

she knew it was powerful forces that did

50:30

this. It wasn't one lone assassin.

50:32

She knew that from the start.

50:34

She knew, she could see,

50:37

hear experience these bullets whizzing in in

50:39

front of

50:40

President Kennedy coming at him

50:43

and from all different angles.

50:45

And that's what it was, it was a crossfire that

50:47

killed Kennedy, just like his aides in

50:49

back of him who were veterans of combat

50:52

said, his security

50:55

detail behind him.

50:56

So yeah, and then got the magic

50:59

bullet, which supposedly came in

51:01

through the back of Kennedy, went through,

51:04

hit like injured two or three different parts

51:07

of Kennedy and then jumped to the front, to

51:09

the seat in front of him and injured two different parts

51:11

of Senator, I mean,

51:14

his vice president, vice president.

51:16

And so

51:18

that's

51:19

the good old magic bullet that

51:22

Cyril Weck talked about. The path was ridiculous.

51:25

And then the bullet magically comes out unscathed

51:29

of the second person it hits in three different

51:31

places. And so it was

51:33

obviously a crossfire and a number of bullets to

51:35

make sure the assassination was successful.

51:38

And so of course, once they got rid of JFK,

51:40

they had Lyndon Johnson in their pocket and

51:42

Johnson just

51:44

reversed of John

51:46

Kennedy's policies and

51:50

pushed for the Vietnam war to escalate

51:52

in a big way. And ended

51:56

a kind of peace détente with

51:58

the Soviet Union.

51:59

etc.

52:01

All right. So we've got about 10 minutes

52:03

left with John. If you've got any questions

52:06

on JFK only put

52:08

them in the chat because we're going to there's

52:11

probably going to be quite a few. We're going to run out

52:13

of time here. Do

52:15

you think John that

52:17

LBJ had for knowledge?

52:20

Yeah,

52:22

I don't know for sure. My guess

52:25

is yes. He apparently

52:27

didn't like Kennedy

52:30

and his brother is my

52:32

understanding. He was more of a political

52:35

pick for vice president and

52:37

I think

52:38

he probably

52:41

did have some foreknowledge in some

52:43

way shape or form. So

52:45

yeah, I'm sorry and the person in front of Kennedy

52:48

wasn't Johnson the vice president was just another

52:50

somebody else. I

52:52

think a senator from Texas, but

52:55

nonetheless, yeah, I do think he probably

52:57

had foreknowledge. I don't know for sure though. My

53:00

guess is that he did have some foreknowledge.

53:02

I've heard evidence that he did say probably

53:05

did.

53:06

Very funny question Papa, but we've got

53:08

to stick to JFK

53:11

questions only please. So

53:13

John, what was the role of the Cold War in

53:15

this?

53:17

Well, you know, it's

53:19

all these American oligarchs

53:22

wanted to have a heightened

53:24

war with the Soviet Union. They

53:26

wanted just constant America

53:28

to be on war footing so they can make so much money off

53:30

of weapons so that they can control

53:33

Americans easier by pretending like

53:35

there's a constant menace. You

53:38

know, and yeah,

53:41

I think that those were major

53:43

issues and the fact that JFK was thawing

53:45

the gold the Cold War in a major big

53:48

way

53:49

that played a part in their motives

53:51

to assassinate him.

53:54

And how many Kennedys were assassinated?

53:56

That's a good question.

54:01

Well, I've got, you know, there's

54:03

massive evidence, of course, on President John

54:05

F. Kennedy

54:07

and Senator Robert F. Kennedy

54:09

who was about to become president before

54:12

he was assassinated because he had won the California

54:15

primary right before

54:17

his assassination. And that was a sign that

54:19

he was going to win the Democratic primary.

54:21

And he

54:24

just was just too

54:26

popular. There's no way anyone's going to defeat

54:28

him for president. And

54:31

so it's clear cut on those

54:33

two. Now,

54:35

I've read and

54:37

seen evidence of

54:38

several attempts on Ted Kennedy's

54:41

life also.

54:42

And I don't think,

54:45

I think

54:46

that's not just, can't be just a coincidence.

54:48

You know, he was probably there worried about

54:51

his influence as a really

54:53

popular senator. And

54:56

he

54:58

could have been president. I think people

55:01

in the Democratic Party had to organize

55:03

in a special way to keep him from being

55:06

the presidential candidate. I heard

55:08

when it was him against President Carter,

55:11

and granted President Carter

55:13

was one of our better presidents, you know,

55:16

relatively speaking. He was definitely one of our best

55:18

presidents since JFK.

55:21

But nobody was going to be, you know, like a Kennedy.

55:24

The Kennedys were

55:25

much more progressive

55:27

in a positive way, you know, like

55:30

than any other candidates. And

55:32

so there was a huge fight in the primary

55:35

between Carter and Ted Kennedy, I think

55:38

it was 1980 or, I mean, sorry, 1976. I

55:41

mean, and I heard

55:43

there was a huge fight about that who was going

55:45

to be the candidate. And

55:47

the Carter people won that fight.

55:50

But I think it was similar to

55:52

like Bernie Sanders being the

55:54

most popular candidate, you know, in the

55:57

recent elections. going

56:00

to let Bernie Sanders be the nominee

56:02

for the Democratic Party. Because

56:04

he was the most popular American candidate

56:07

running, no doubt. And so

56:09

it was a similar situation. They were

56:12

not going to let Ted Kennedy get near the presidency.

56:14

Question

56:16

from Jake. I'll

56:19

just add one more answer to that, is I do think

56:21

that John F. Kennedy, Jr. was

56:23

assassinated also. But that's

56:26

more controversial than the others, believe it or not.

56:28

OK, go on. Jake wants to know why

56:31

no major whistleblowers of Kefauk, weren't

56:33

they all killed? Weren't hundreds of people killed around

56:35

this?

56:36

Oh, yeah. I mean, members of the Warren Commission

56:38

even were killed,

56:40

is my understanding, is what I've heard. But

56:44

yeah, I think witnesses were

56:47

shut up or done away with. Yeah,

56:50

I think there was other people killed too.

56:52

But I'm sorry, what were we going to say, Sean?

56:54

Even members of the Warren Commission were killed?

56:57

Yeah, it's my understanding. The ones that went against

57:00

things that happened there that

57:03

kind of opposed the way it was being manipulated.

57:06

But I don't have all the, remember

57:09

all the evidence of that, so I can't get into

57:11

that deeply. I'm sorry.

57:13

Nitram said it was Texas Governor John

57:15

Connelly sat in front of Kennedy. Thank

57:18

you. Thank you. Ray

57:20

J has a question for you, John. Was the death

57:22

of JFK the final takeover moved

57:24

by the deep state and the end of democracy?

57:29

Well,

57:30

it was major, no doubt. I'm probably

57:33

one of the biggest events.

57:37

You can call it the deep state, you can call

57:40

it whatever. The deep state,

57:42

that idea, that term

57:45

actually came from a

57:47

professor over here,

57:50

Peter Dale Scott, who's a

57:52

Canadian originally. But was

57:54

a Canadian diplomat and then became a

57:57

University of California Berkeley professor

57:59

who's

57:59

written. in excellent books about drugs

58:02

and politics that I've

58:04

used for sources for my book.

58:06

But so, you know, Trump

58:08

kind of took over that term, but

58:12

it's an important term. It's really, you know,

58:14

just like the idea of US intelligence having

58:16

too much control over our country and

58:19

thus having too much power, you know, with

58:21

British intelligence or Tavistock Institute

58:24

in Britain over the world.

58:27

But yeah, it was a major, definitely. Maybe

58:29

it's arguably the most important, you know,

58:31

takeover of democracy, but, you know, other people

58:34

might argue that 911 was the biggest take,

58:37

you know,

58:39

usurpation of democracy.

58:41

We've only got two or three

58:44

minutes left. If you've got any final questions

58:47

for John, squeeze them in there now.

58:49

We'll try and do short answers to get through them. Method

58:52

wants to know if the Kennedys were

58:54

involved in Marilyn Monroe's murder.

58:58

Well, there, you know, some people

59:01

make that speculation and I don't

59:03

believe it's the case. I

59:05

mean, there were so many attempts.

59:07

You know, when you got

59:10

political targets like the Kennedys,

59:12

in the same way, you know, I'm not saying

59:14

that they weren't promiscuous and, you know,

59:16

that maybe JFK

59:19

or RFK or whoever didn't sleep

59:21

with Marilyn Monroe, it's certainly possible, but

59:23

no, I don't believe

59:25

that they murdered her. I

59:27

think that

59:29

they, you know, there was an attempt to

59:32

smear the Kennedys with the

59:34

murder of Marilyn Monroe. And

59:37

just because they were such targets,

59:40

you know, for US intelligence and

59:42

the kind of the evidence that

59:44

I've seen when,

59:47

you know, that they, the Kennedys were behind

59:49

Marilyn Monroe's death, it's just, it's

59:52

bad sources. It's sources that are

59:54

police connected, that are

59:56

biases

59:58

that, you know, and police. even

1:00:00

local police are connected to US intelligence

1:00:02

and police intelligence units overlap with the

1:00:04

FBI. There's FBI agents there in

1:00:07

our country, they're both police and FBI.

1:00:09

And I document that in my books that I want

1:00:11

to box your core and as well

1:00:13

as drugs as weapons against us. So

1:00:15

I think they planted evidence to pretend

1:00:17

that Kennedys were involved, but they don't

1:00:20

believe they were involved.

1:00:21

So a few questions, can we just do very short

1:00:24

answers on these ones? Right? How's it? What

1:00:26

are you willing to believe the victim was a JFK

1:00:28

body double?

1:00:30

No.

1:00:35

Jet Rebecca was Lee Harvey

1:00:38

Oswald really assassinated?

1:00:40

Yes, by Jack Ruby.

1:00:43

Was JFK on the UFO files

1:00:46

onto the UFO files? I

1:00:48

don't know what the UFO files are.

1:00:51

All right, let's see. Excellent. Conspiracy.

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