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about a fungus turning cicadas
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P R F Today. Or
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a saucer as our guest. Which topic should
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we start with? Well, a lot of people
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are badly freaked out by spiders. Solicits rip
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the band aid off and start with Alan.
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Yes, oh I'm in. Tell everyone the yeah,
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let's not worry about the zero spiders. They're
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not dangerous. They do have these like really
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big webs. The females do have inch long
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bodies and the legs make them up to
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almost four inches long. Well, okay, and they're
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black in their electric yellow and their venomous.
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No reason why people don't like Slater. Zola
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does not having so much to not let.
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Me: Give this a try. So draw spiders
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rarely bait and even if they did, their
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fangs are super small. they'd have a really
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hard time even getting through your skin. and
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if they did by you, it easily treated
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just like a normal bug By and even
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less painful than a bee sting. Again, spiders
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not so bad, right? Likely. So how did
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these spiders? cashier? So the most likely got
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here through shipping containers from East Asia and
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now they have this big population in and
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Lantern and it's a big port of entry
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so that makes sense. And it's also like
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has a similar humidity. And temperature to their
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natural habitat in Asia. And the spiders
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can die as it gets too cold. So
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with climate change warming our planet researchers think
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that warmer winters are going to help shore
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as establish populations in more places further north.
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You mentioned that these spiders are in basis
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and obviously oftentimes invasive species can be very
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bad for ecosystems. Do we know if this
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is gonna be bad for the East Coast
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in any way. We. Actually, don't know
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yet. Don't you see more research on
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how Dros fighters are secular? environment and
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other native species but one of the
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researchers i talked to said that spiders
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are prime example of to trends that
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are helping a lot of other invasive
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species spread and that's global shipping routes
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expanding and a warmer climate. And Sasha,
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we can all help researchers by tracking
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Joros. So if you see one, you
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can log it on community sites like
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iNaturalist, Project Joro, or Jorowatch.
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Mmm, they have their own websites, wow. Yep.
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Okay, so your next story keeps
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us on the critter beat. It's
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about a fungus that is turning
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cicadas into what you described as
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sexed up zombies? Yes, yes. So
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you've probably heard about this huge cicada phenomenon
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happening this year, right? Yeah, yeah. Okay, so
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yeah, so there's these two groups of periodical
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cicadas and they're emerging at the same time.
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One comes out every 17 years in the
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Midwest and the other emerges every 13 years
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in the Midwest and the Southeast. And where
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does the zombification come in? Okay,
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yeah. So our colleague Rachel Treisman recently
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reported on this. It's the fungal parasite
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Mesospora cicadina, which has been observed in
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these cicadas in about half a dozen
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states now. It fills an
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infected cicada's abdomen and then emerges
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out of its back end like
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this chalky white gumdrop. Or at
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least that's how Matt Cassin
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described it. He's a fungi scientist. I
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have never liked gumdrops. Now I definitely
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never will eat gumdrops. Absolutely not. It's
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a horrible visual. Okay, so Matt
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told NPR that this fungus is
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unique because it keeps the cicada alive even
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after a third of its body has been
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replaced by this fungal tissue. And
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it's not just alive. It makes the
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cicadas hypersexual in an attempt to spread
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its spores. Ah, so is it kind
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of like the fungus hijacking the cicadas
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for their own gain and then
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the zombified cicadas spread the fungus
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even farther? Yeah, that's exactly
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it. So infected male cicadas will try
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to mate with healthy females and then
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also other males. And they're really just
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flying around and raining down spores like
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flying salt shakers of death. That's
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how Matt put it. It's always good at phrases. I know.
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It's really good language. And if that weren't
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enough, Matt says this fungus produces a stimulant
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that likely means all of these cicadas
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are high out of their minds while
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this is all going. going down. Is
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it known how widespread this fungus is
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in the cicadas? So Matt says the
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incidence of infection is pretty low, maybe
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below 5%, although he's encountered
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some areas where it's as high as
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20 to 30%. And if you
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happen to come across one yourself, don't worry,
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this fungus is specialized to cicadas, according to
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scientists at Chicago's Field Museum of Natural History.
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So safe to handle, but you might want
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to wash your hands after that. A good
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rule for life in general. Yes.
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Last topic totally different. This
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one's really interesting. I saw an article
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about this just today, understanding how spaceflight
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affects human health. Yeah, okay.
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So as we know, humans have evolved
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to thrive here on Earth, which means
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spaceflight and microgravity are, to
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put it simply, rough on the body. We've
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known that astronauts lose bone density in
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space, blood and bodily fluids are redistributed
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in microgravity, which really just means that
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without the effects of Earth's gravity, these
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things are all pushed upwards from the
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legs and abdomen to the heart and
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the head. But we haven't
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known much about what's happening inside human cells
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during spaceflight. And as spaceflight becomes more common
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and astronauts set out on longer missions, this
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other piece of the puzzle is crucial. And
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are these new findings getting at that about
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what happens at the cellular level in space?
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Yeah, so that's the goal, because right now
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we don't know that much, but a huge
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collection of papers released this week in Nature
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and its companion journals is starting to fill
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in some gaps about what's going on inside
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cells. I talked to one
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researcher, Elia Overby, who told me about
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this one finding, telomeres or markers of
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aging at the ends of chromosomes seem
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to get longer during spaceflight, as opposed
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to generally getting shorter like they do
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here on Earth. And if telomeres
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get longer, do we know if that's a
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bad thing? Okay, yeah. So Elia said
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we don't really know the implications of this
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yet, which is kind of the whole problem.
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But she does hope that a new database,
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the Space Omix and Medical Atlas is going
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to help answer this question. It's the largest
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of its kind to date and includes data
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from a bunch of different space missions. Yeah,
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astronauts. astronauts gave samples of things like blood,
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saliva, and even skin biopsies before space flight,
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and then researchers compared those samples to ones
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taken after they returned to Earth. Is
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the idea that now that we have more
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data, we'll be able to take better care
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of astronauts? Yeah, both Elia
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and a space physician I talked
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to, Emmanuel Urquieta, talked about personalized
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medicine. And Elia said the
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SOMA database helps us get closer to
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that kind of care for individual astronauts
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and for civilians who are interested in
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things like commercial space travel. Instead
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of it being a shot in
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the dark, a completely exploratory exercise in figuring
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out what's going on in the human body,
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they now have something to
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point them towards for novel scientific questions that
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they didn't have before. Right now they only
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have data for a small number of people,
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but Emmanuel and Elia both say data like
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this will help usher us into a new
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era of space exploration. So interesting the toll
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on the body that space travel can take,
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what interesting research this is. Yeah,
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I don't ever want to go to space. Sasha,
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You're welcome. Yeah, come hang out with us anytime.
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