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continue as the next generation, Our sondra

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project. Where does fail You Will you

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take a scary.com. By.

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The late Nineteen Seventy is the once

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heralded haven for those struggling with addiction

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had turned into a multi million dollar

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corporation. With. It's sights set less

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on saving lives and moron cashing in

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and accumulating guns. The. Formerly sterling

0:43

reputation of sin and on began

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to tarnish. As. Soon as they

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began acting on their violent threats, the

0:50

thin thread holding the whole group together

0:52

frayed into oblivion. But. The group's

0:54

legacy is one thing it's virulent

0:56

dictator couldn't control. This. Week's

0:59

episode is the Cult of Said and

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on Part Three. Or

1:11

dread probably. Be

1:16

both men know what is.

1:19

Perhaps you. Can

1:22

replace you're doing good com

1:24

increased if you clone. you'd

1:26

rather just listen to. Part.

1:40

Three, The reckoning of choke did. The

1:43

right or is it would have.

1:45

I don't know. I or is

1:47

it it's. Bike.

1:51

So we've gotten a lot of emails

1:53

from people that's and. Will talk about

1:55

this how this has led into

1:57

the troubled teen industry. That still exists.

2:00

Today and we've gotten

2:02

some messages from people

2:04

that either. Were. Send

2:06

someone else sees programs. That

2:08

kind of base their whole

2:11

format on what cinema doing

2:13

hours they knew someone that

2:15

dead ends at ended tragically

2:17

for them. And so. I

2:21

can call it a reckoning,

2:23

because unfortunately, even when things

2:25

like this might disband. The.

2:29

Aftermath. Or the ideas

2:31

that are planted. Often. Just

2:33

spring up in new ways that are

2:35

even worse. And they were to begin

2:37

with. not to mention all the various

2:40

damn as that happens to everybody involved

2:42

along the way which that is today

2:44

is the damage upon damage upon damage

2:46

that this group which is crazy because

2:48

in part one it was of noble

2:51

effort of nobody else is helping people

2:53

that needed to be helped and we're

2:55

going to see today it descend ensued.

2:57

Literally madness such a thing as title of

2:59

the book from Miracle. The madness is like

3:02

the most perfect. Things is it was heralded

3:04

as is like amazing miracle and then by the

3:06

end of this episode I think. All y'all are

3:08

going to be safe. But the so how did we get

3:10

here? And it's like, how did we. Yeah,

3:13

it's It's reminiscent as many calls

3:15

that we've covered and a lot

3:17

of. The people at the

3:19

time even compared it to Johnson because

3:21

zone some happen and then kind of

3:24

like sorely after. A.

3:26

Federal like. Oh maybe we should

3:28

look. Into this other ones that have

3:30

a lot of the say the qualities

3:32

as don't sound and good money. The

3:34

Jonestown Manzanita don't sound yeah it's. It's

3:37

like I think what we've sat

3:39

in the first episode. All.

3:42

Of these start off with good intentions. But.

3:45

All of the men's terribly.

3:47

Oh yes, it's. To see it

3:49

doesn't work. It doesn't work When did

3:51

with this way does not. Oh a

3:54

very brief correction thank you set out

3:56

to our Northern California listener they say

3:58

Marine County instead Marin County. I will

4:00

say thank you very much for the

4:02

gentle correction we're always trying to better.

4:04

So I think first and then in

4:06

our in our instagram. Comments: some

4:09

preceded Marine County law

4:11

while we're on his

4:13

to every one from

4:15

that beloved county that

4:17

windy than mispronouncing. Had some

4:19

seems. We. Just think

4:21

we know and other ones we look up

4:24

when it's like a while we're we look

4:26

it up that now and we we had

4:28

a in we didn't let nice websites the

4:30

with lovely and I was like it's lovely

4:32

and frog when i pull really say love

4:34

wind and I was like while the marketing's

4:36

off on that self love isn't hard man

4:38

gotten hit as hard as login and if

4:40

a man lovely and you gotta get the

4:42

say what are your and position that it's

4:45

their city and it's. Not all about the frogman.

4:47

I would argue. it's all about the front man. Assess

4:49

Oliver not going to Loveland or. To

4:51

Marine County, but we're going to a lot

4:53

of easily pronounce of all places on our

4:56

tour this summer. I mean is, well, Yeah

4:58

yeah legs saw Louis song

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louise sound the we Ah

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mile walk hey the see

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as job wise I thought

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that hired as it that

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sells everyone else probably I

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suppose. Searle it's a real

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we're going to St. Louis,

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Chicago, Milwaukee, Charlotte, Raleigh, Cincinnati,

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Cleveland, Toronto, Kansas City, Oklahoma

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City, San Diego, Phoenix, Las

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Vegas and that Dallas and.

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Perhaps some might be added at a

5:30

later date, but for now, this is

5:32

what we've got. our full moon energy

5:34

tour. What is that? Heather viruses staring

5:36

up at the moon yesterday and I

5:38

just saw. A new article say in The

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Club magazine about why we feel. Like the moon

5:42

has a grasp on us and that's one

5:44

of the things we cover in full moon

5:47

energy along with conspiracies. crimes we talk about

5:49

some crypt it's are they or are they.

5:51

Real? I don't know. And we're also going to be

5:53

talking about Moon. Trains and some of the new developments.

5:55

on the moon is our winter sisters the crazy

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one and so is that. You're not going here.

6:00

The show and it's a full show on it's own

6:02

so if your friends like I've never listened to and

6:04

episodes will. This, you live under the moon. you

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better go set aside last live shows and see

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what the hell it's all about. and as a

6:10

couple of cities are still some Vip laugh which

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6:14

a with us afterwards and we just sit around

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you to sit with you talk years. It's like

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us virtual to you in a but in person.

6:21

So assessor a.com/live shows where it's

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to you on the road. Is

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gonna be a lot of fun. It's

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really fun! so several. Audience participation

6:29

parts and can't wait at St. Louis.

6:32

everyone loves to vote on something so

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I think out.com thing loading segment. Yeah

6:36

I've been gathering my things. I can't

6:39

wait to hear what beloved celebrity like

6:41

Ben Affleck, you are blue and hate

6:43

on I see. It as like

6:45

now has turned a corner with harrys of

6:48

ever getting paid Sabres so much that they

6:50

kind of feel sorry for him. so maybe

6:52

avast sony and softened a bit towards him.

6:54

Now more will see it wasn't just people

6:57

in Boston people. At every stop booze he

6:59

said Ben Affleck. So why do we still

7:01

vanessa so up and find out as Sinister

7:03

had.coms less live show. Your.

7:07

Love. For now we're gonna wrap this

7:09

up with part three of our son and

7:11

on coverage, a lot of people save Mall

7:13

up to been some at once. Welcome

7:16

Just spent the last four hours listening

7:18

to us apologies and I will get

7:20

will say marine this time although I

7:23

don't know if we mentioned his this.

7:26

Weekend retroactively apologize for that

7:29

one while I'm for see

7:31

another. And. Let's get into it.

7:35

The foundation of synonyms treatment was

7:37

rooted in the game or anything

7:39

was allowed. Except for violence. That.

7:42

All changed in the summer of nineteen. Seventy

7:44

Two. Founder. Of

7:46

the groups at Diedrich and a female residents

7:48

are going at each other in a heated

7:50

session of the game. Frustrated.

7:53

Because the woman kept interrupting. Sucks wrong

7:55

sir. Acted in. Her son got up

7:57

from his share, walked across the room

8:00

and poured a can of root beer

8:02

over her head. Check it.

8:04

Broken the one rule of the game

8:06

and now the floodgates. Were open.

8:09

Was. Crazy to me about this is

8:11

a dad's old fashioned rebirth, they specifically

8:13

says a very hidden a success with

8:16

as I don't think. That where did

8:18

this are? You get it. Only seen a

8:20

lot of times it set us up but

8:22

this is as an example of we know

8:24

we see a will what happens when somebody

8:26

does salads This This person who is unchallengeable

8:28

who is determined god and see would not

8:30

That son is certainly broken people were like

8:32

years. While he would scream right interface and

8:35

she was just like smog like could not

8:37

be was just steely, reserved and so you

8:39

see what happens when a bully get threatened

8:41

is that they bully even harder and people

8:43

were like we were shocked. He apologized the

8:45

next day and then like. Two hours later

8:47

he got back on the wire was like actually

8:50

want to take back that apology? See got what

8:52

was coming to, were seated, wouldn't shut up to

8:54

see. deserved this and nonviolence as a policy and

8:56

guess what? I can change policies whenever I want.

9:00

And that is a slippery

9:02

slope to seems that one

9:04

that was really bad allow

9:06

drug policy was really also

9:08

wasn't been taken as seriously.

9:11

As one would hope. That.

9:13

Last Bastiaan of like. Work.

9:16

He said things together. we're civilized

9:18

now then destroyed and and memory

9:20

for all. absolutely He said are

9:22

the rules arm for executives. There for

9:25

like the peons and underlings and then for

9:27

nothing ever again beat her? Ever know everybody's

9:29

going out to play by the same set

9:31

of rules in my butter knife world? The.

9:35

Door opening on violence was especially troubling

9:37

for the children that found themselves. At

9:39

the mercy of send a non. Members.

9:42

Of the so called Punk Squad were

9:44

beaten if they disobeyed sets rules or

9:46

refuse to participate in the game. Adults.

9:49

Who dared say some things were met with

9:51

the same punishment. With. The

9:53

permission of violence people's true colors

9:55

began. To show with Betty riding him

9:58

eternal at the time. Beginning

10:00

to find some creeps amongst the squares.

10:04

Yeah. I'm stalking I

10:06

had yeah, not socking. Ah,

10:09

I'm. I'm.

10:11

Surprised that this is the first time

10:13

it's really that like. Noted.

10:16

That like, ah. Maybe. All

10:18

these people learn as them on the

10:20

up enough above board is as we

10:22

thought that perhaps is so that rule

10:25

was kind of keep in the mall

10:27

in sack and now with us. Dawn

10:29

It's like, oh, Well yeah turns out

10:31

people they get screened that day in

10:33

and day out if given the permissions

10:35

to slap the shit out of somebody.

10:38

The students who them they're gonna take

10:40

it, they will. And it was especially.

10:42

I agree just with this punks quite

10:44

as it was more. And more children

10:46

who had been labeled you know juvenile delinquents

10:48

are you know their parents. Can handle them

10:51

and then what's have to do is he was

10:53

like go find a tough motherfucker who will not

10:55

come on their ass. So then you had the

10:57

people quote unquote running the pumps, was reforming the

11:00

juveniles who were just there to just literally punch

11:02

them as like it would say like oh you

11:04

wanna say up to me kids are just it

11:06

is the stuff we later saw. And like Maury

11:08

Povich that we all have had a tear. Down at the

11:11

time of likes look at those added controlled he's

11:13

getting yelled at and you're like know this has

11:15

lasting significant damage on these kids but it was

11:17

Of course there's crease because he goes hey who

11:19

wants to are rough up some teenage punks and

11:22

the get a ones that would raise their hand

11:24

or like oh yes and then sex like will

11:26

They lost their job and it's like that's not

11:28

the person who should be doing it now they're

11:31

like as and waiting for this for real. As.

11:36

Pressure mounted both internally and

11:38

externally. Synonyms Thought official. Religious

11:40

Status And Nineteen Seventy Four. This.

11:43

Tactical Moves officially made sin

11:45

and on a tax exempt

11:47

nonprofit organisation. That. The a

11:50

logical message at the center non religion was

11:52

not one of peace and love. Rather,

11:55

Sad told his followers over the

11:57

wire were not going to mess

11:59

with the old time Currently other

12:01

cheek religious postures are religious. Foster

12:03

is don't mess with us, You

12:05

can get killed Dead. Literally Dead.

12:09

Aggressive tactics weren't just aimed

12:11

towards outsiders. After. A series

12:14

of intense games and San Francisco

12:16

and early Nineteen Seventy Five, the

12:18

use of head shavings morphed from

12:20

a punishment into a badge of

12:22

honor and loyalty. Cinnamon has

12:24

been saving the heads of deserters. Or

12:27

trespassers. but after this. All.

12:29

Members male and female willingly saved

12:31

their heads to show their loyalty

12:33

to Tuck and the group. And.

12:36

It says you just what a small thing can

12:38

spiral into a and ethos and the tenants such

12:40

hit his head. he was walking down some stairs

12:42

and a beam a C lonely whacked his head

12:45

and so he wrote Alabama and said he added

12:47

security. He wrote out a memo and said whoever

12:49

was stupid enough to build that been blown up

12:51

for me to hit my has to have their

12:54

had saved his in it publicly the memo so

12:56

people just began saving their heads the as they

12:58

felt responsible even his sons so basically will be

13:00

like what I'm the one that design that staircase

13:03

so I should say My has won the one

13:05

that hammered it. Ends I six one the one

13:07

that painted it. So all these people start saving

13:09

their heads then at the next day or like

13:12

three or four days later there and it's all

13:14

these men will then it a woman's games essence

13:16

this woman's I thought I have responsibility to I

13:18

should say my head and then a has been

13:21

her. had her husband told her you'll look like

13:23

an ugly pig since he said defiantly oh fucking

13:25

watch me then says and see that saves her

13:27

head All the women save their heads within forty

13:29

eight hours all five hundred woman in sin and

13:32

on and say their head because this announcement had

13:34

gone out over the wire. That was like basically.

13:36

You need to take responsibility for time

13:39

for what everybody does it for. Another

13:41

to the honestly his probably drunk. Yeah.

13:44

For else but also what a

13:46

petulant child that refuses. To take

13:48

any kind of responsibility or be

13:51

accountable for their own. Apps and

13:53

med like. He is

13:55

a constant victim Every happens

13:57

to him. that negative is.

14:00

Because of the fault as someone

14:02

else in this messages that sense

14:05

to. Be. Adults in the group. The

14:07

children in the group who also had their head

14:09

say there and bomb on it. pictures of kids.

14:11

That are from like suited sixteen

14:14

which is shaved. Heads. I mean you're

14:16

telling me a two year old is given

14:18

consensus same? Their heads know it's done to

14:20

them. You know. And I mean and again

14:22

it was girls, boys, Everybody

14:24

and. The. Messages.

14:28

Oh. We're responsible for health sucks

14:30

feals. Yes, And that is

14:32

never a message that any child

14:35

or other person said have bestowed

14:37

upon them that like I'm responsible

14:39

for these feelings because then. You.

14:42

Learn to walk on eggshells like kids

14:44

grow up and then environment they don't

14:47

have healthy relationships are people pleaser. Seats

14:49

are constantly on edge that you know

14:51

like oh well, I got to keep

14:53

myself in line or sucked in to

14:55

get upset and then you know he's

14:57

gonna. next thing we know, like ever

14:59

businesses screen that in the game. That.

15:02

Know you're right and that he was like

15:04

all the and his daughter did said you

15:06

only seaboard come here for they were really

15:08

lonely and so if you sort of we

15:10

than this idea that like you will get

15:12

kicked out if you upset this one percent

15:14

and his happiness actually more important than the

15:16

rest of money than happiness. Bending to his

15:18

wins is more important hunter ability yeah just

15:20

like his rants yeah she's like the people

15:22

that has you know in the later years

15:24

of wasn't so much trouble with substance use

15:26

his youth and was more just like people

15:28

joining up paying dues and stuff to be

15:30

in s t like they joined. Because they

15:32

were lonely and then they were like completely cut

15:34

off from their outside family. So then it becomes

15:37

is this huge hostage situations and you're right. Like

15:39

when you leave, how to use your like still

15:41

being a hostage or somebody who's like your. Spouse

15:43

is like whoa. You don't treat me like a cult leader.

15:46

But that's just like sad to. That's how. You are

15:48

programmed. Ya. Sisterhood.

15:54

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children as Sin and on. He decided

17:45

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17:47

weren't around. Children. Were expensive

17:49

and shop saw them as an

17:52

unnecessary liability. telling residents in a

17:54

speech. Over the wire there's a

17:56

profit to this community and raising our

17:58

own children. Every baby. We indulge

18:00

a sin and on sale with takes up

18:02

a bed and somewhere between one hundred. And

18:05

two hundred thousand dollars worth of energy.

18:08

For. Those that long to be a

18:10

mother said brazenly tried to dissuade

18:12

them by remarking on the trials

18:14

of childbirth, saying i understand it's

18:16

more like pressing a football than

18:18

anything else. Sir.

18:21

You're fucking stupid mouth the I

18:23

don't First of all, your did

18:25

shut the fuck out. He can't

18:27

talk about what it's like to

18:29

give Sabra because. You can't

18:31

do it so just shut them out

18:34

of Love is also. The.

18:38

Hypocrisy. of like. Well at first we

18:40

wanted all of the residents children to

18:42

come here because I don't lose my

18:44

free labor so it benefits me for

18:46

their kids to be air. But

18:48

now I have to pay for them

18:50

to like, eat and says and have

18:53

a place to live so fucking second.

18:55

Yeah, Yeah. Knows it. Seriously you're right

18:57

is a one. It's factory worker so he can

18:59

make the delinquency factory workers and abused them and

19:01

make them do you know sit up for says

19:04

act like they're in the military but when it

19:06

was people's kids they're like lot While under my

19:08

daughter. To go to college which okay. Little.

19:11

Bit hypocritical and it was just like know

19:13

that will your head suckers what they call

19:15

people that wanted to spend time with their

19:17

kids and he's beaten to the he wanted

19:19

workers he's He said it was like he

19:22

wanted to get rid of of these ah

19:24

nine at Productive Members he said he called

19:26

it squeezing out the. Rotten fruit like it

19:28

was just like calling calling the her. Sending

19:30

the heard missing out the rotten

19:33

fruit and meanwhile his own kids

19:35

only see him because their innocence

19:37

cold as well and he's a

19:39

half the time there's. Videos of

19:41

him gaming, Jd like screaming

19:43

and his daughter interface. Certainly, basically

19:46

he in his mind legalize most non

19:48

verbal abuse. Yes. and he didn't One

19:50

parents v around their kids because he

19:52

wasn't around his kids and so he's

19:54

retroactively been like, why did it the

19:56

right way Society oh man is wrong.

19:58

but it may new society. The way

20:00

I did is actually the right way

20:02

and you have to do with that

20:05

way. So yep, no more kids. Worried.

20:09

His words wouldn't be taken. Seriously.

20:12

Soft. Touch with anti Kid movement even

20:14

further when in Nineteen Seventy Six, he

20:16

declared that all men were to receive

20:18

the sesame and all women who were

20:21

pregnant were to immediately have an abortion.

20:24

And surprisingly that the sesame rule

20:26

applied to every one except shot.

20:29

Cause they had his room, the people and they

20:31

over the course of three days gave the sector

20:33

me to pretty much all the men over eighteen

20:35

who had been there you know for sense of

20:37

such and such a manner times and and and.

20:40

Yeah. Over eighteen years. So he

20:42

I mean gonna be then. Maybe

20:45

there's camps on both sides? I don't

20:47

know. We can are not. By the when

20:49

I read in the house like. I

20:52

don't. I think you doing something you can

20:54

undo and so you make a decision. It

20:56

twenties that for the rest your life. Now

20:58

I mean in ten years or like to

21:00

hear my i actually do want kids and

21:02

and then the like Laxman ends up your

21:04

hands and us back your vast difference do

21:07

not as far as I know no and

21:09

especially not when it's done by like a

21:11

homemade even though they were doctors they were

21:13

so doing it in he said and on

21:15

facilities and my gamble is one of the

21:17

guys that it talked. A lot on the

21:19

Senate on sex and had kicked harrowing because he

21:21

was there and he said he got a vasectomy.

21:24

He's like I literally didn't know what the procedure

21:26

was when they are rolled me in there and

21:28

pretty much as he resisted they would game you

21:30

and scream at you until you relented. And he

21:32

said three days after the mandate they found out

21:34

that his. Partner. That he had been partner

21:36

with. With. Pregnant and he's like we looked

21:39

at each other were like well we have to go

21:41

through with the of worse and even though they both

21:43

wanted they thought they wanted to have the kids but

21:45

he said you know at the time we were like

21:47

this is what's right for the group and he's like

21:50

now my brother's I'll have grandkids and I just think

21:52

about what a life I would a had and you're

21:54

right like that Some of the untold ripples of harm

21:56

that a group like this does have like most of

21:58

the only make the Tv. The only one that's

22:01

like, man, what if I agree And kids

22:03

And those. In. The moment

22:05

he did decisions, then. You

22:09

might seem like with is a good idea,

22:11

like you know you're forcing the moment to

22:13

do a bit no one is looking at

22:15

long term. Physical. And and

22:17

mental effects of that. Know and nobody was like hey Mike

22:19

and spouse Let's talk about what your likes and dislikes are,

22:22

what are your goals? For us it was like you will

22:24

do this and three days are you will be kicked out

22:26

in there like school The I guess he had to do

22:28

in three days and it's like that's not the same thing

22:30

as consent. That coerce that scores and

22:32

yes, and then it's kicked out

22:35

and you've been told if you

22:37

everly this. Facility you die just

22:39

you know. and they him mice

22:41

been clean off heroin so you're

22:43

like. I go back

22:46

on the streets. I'm just gonna get

22:48

right back into them. Like I mean

22:50

they've got a grip on you in

22:52

like every way they just have. Control.

22:55

Of your. Life says a hostage situation

22:58

than. Feeling.

23:01

The group was under attack in

23:03

February Nineteen Seventy Seven. Tuck created

23:06

the Imperial Marines, a private security

23:08

force inside the group and developed

23:10

Sin Do It's own type of

23:13

martial arts. Set named

23:15

in honor of Betty. Her

23:17

Majesty's Imperial Marines. And

23:19

Betty was often at their training. The.

23:21

Group as ensure he committed over

23:23

eighty violent acts on former members.

23:26

In random neighbors. With.

23:28

Such paranoia and consent for

23:30

violence escalating, he began amassing

23:33

guns listen in on eventually

23:35

buying more firearms. And any organisation

23:37

in the history of California. The.

23:40

Tenants the Sun and on were

23:42

clearly shifting with the focus less

23:44

on rehabilitation and and said on

23:46

preparing for a doomsday scenario. Such.

23:49

Fondness for over asks. Had also

23:51

morphed into a militant like. Uniform for

23:53

residents and members shake their heads as

23:55

a sign of loyalty to the group.

23:58

What? Once resembled the makings. The

24:00

utopian society now looks more like

24:02

a dystopian fi fi film. And.

24:05

The at this time the wire with playing these

24:07

speeches from fact that he would just it was

24:09

everywhere in even in the bathroom and he's like

24:12

swear under attack they're trying to get us were

24:14

in red alert so one guy was like yeah

24:16

would sleep the my overalls like that they were

24:18

there like blast cover ups and he's like our

24:20

sleep fully clothed is his sack was like don't

24:23

know whenever they attack calls gonna come in a

24:25

nice and then sometimes i would have drill see

24:27

just get like ah ah ah you're being invaded

24:29

and yet it is jump out of been start

24:31

fighting the what that doesn't into your brain check

24:34

also said he really likes see people. From

24:36

sleeping has he likes to rain and I

24:38

don't tell you this. the brain so malleable

24:40

and they don't sleep. Oh yeah, your twitter

24:42

yeah, the whole torture as they. Do.

24:45

It and all sorts of

24:47

torture scenarios to. Get. People

24:49

the confessed something under duress are

24:52

just loses make them lose their

24:54

wits about them. Whole part reminds.

24:56

Me a lot of next cm seems

24:58

like t through neary calling them in

25:00

the middle of the night admit to

25:02

them from do separatists. Refusing to let

25:04

them sleep or having these drills in the middle

25:06

of the night? I mean it really. Lack.

25:09

Of sleep is more dangerous than.

25:12

Like. Driving a car when you haven't slept is more.

25:14

Dangerous. Than driving under the influence

25:16

of a drug because your brain just

25:18

doesn't function properly. and if you. Are.

25:22

Sleep deprived being told were under

25:24

attack by to his who is

25:26

even attacking you the never lie

25:28

to it's is very like us

25:30

versus them mentality is starts to

25:32

become this very. Your. Get into

25:34

like a branch Davidian situation didn't everybody

25:36

hides and that's one of the inside

25:38

or guys like he. Was like on the board

25:41

with Sexy Goes We were. Really open that we

25:43

have that many guns like we wanted it

25:45

to be publicized because the one say don't

25:47

fuck with thousand and one attacks wire speeches

25:49

he goes over when you act in uniform

25:51

if freaks people out so he said wearing

25:53

the same clothes saving our heads. He also

25:55

got really into fitness and weight loss. Of

25:57

this point he was like making people like.

26:00

Do you are jogging Kind of before jogging

26:02

with Cool his early adopter spit. Like having

26:04

and like jog and running in uniform. It

26:06

looks like North Korea kind of stuff. Like

26:09

whether marching in unison that he said oh

26:11

yeah we do that so that that it'll

26:13

be easier to control. So they're saying out

26:15

loud we have of the dead like a

26:17

ton of guns and also look at our

26:19

guys like working out the ranchers nearby. Go.

26:22

We could drive by and see that they

26:24

were shooting a human cut out targets. So

26:26

it's not like they were out hunting practice.

26:28

they were like army practice are preparing for

26:30

something. Yes it's like this ball headed overall

26:33

clad proper group up. The Street. And

26:35

and that meanwhile do like seeing like

26:37

Chevrolet does donated a bajillion dollars you

26:39

know, Chrysler and Proctor and gamble like

26:41

all these big legit companies were meanwhile

26:43

donating his truck was really gonna sell

26:45

side. being like oh well that all

26:48

the marching in south is all the

26:50

dope fiends and we're keeping them queens

26:52

but he literally around this time like

26:54

spring of Nine, Seventy seven admitted yeah

26:56

we don't. Really? do we have any more like that

26:58

Saddam and a made up and he's like we. Created this

27:01

organization to were basically I kids as

27:03

have at the top heavy organization where

27:05

all the money that the tops and.

27:08

I don't have to pay taxes so.

27:11

Well, he did just that and it's

27:13

wild. The he was just

27:15

so openly living the lifestyle

27:17

for so long and us

27:20

is. It. Was allowed

27:22

legally like those they didn't step

27:24

in and is when. The. Sheriff's

27:26

Deputies are also cinema members. Yeah,

27:29

you've got the whole law enforcement

27:31

in your back pocket in people

27:33

need. Us to they didn't even wanna call

27:35

him report says because. Then. He'd

27:37

send his. Fucking. Cronies

27:39

out there to beat the Saudi you yeah sometimes

27:42

sin and on the dunning ambulances, the sitting on

27:44

members of beat the shit out of his locals

27:46

and then when the first responders become like the

27:48

police would come their tax owed you and it's

27:51

the called the ambulance and they're like know because

27:53

it's a sit in on ambulance and I don't

27:55

have the people in the last the come and

27:57

pick me up and the. There

28:00

are bold. it's a horror. Movie Them I'm not

28:02

really Is all of the Zahar movie. He's

28:05

not wrong about the uniform thing since

28:07

early some than about see and people

28:09

in uniform. That does something different.

28:11

It's because you just. Looks

28:15

more evil like everyone because yeah,

28:17

like these are all. One.

28:20

Person they don't have me lose your

28:22

thought anymore like everyone is aligned with

28:24

one thought in that as as. Just

28:27

us versus them. Yeah it's like what does

28:29

suck one essentially they were his arms and

28:31

they would go out stay would put on

28:33

wigs so that people would know it was

28:35

into the ball headed people. They continue and

28:37

don't get me wrong I think some people

28:40

rock a bald style very well as the

28:42

see folks did it for intimidation purposes and

28:44

on honestly to beat lineup so they would

28:46

all kinda like look the same says in

28:48

a victim couldn't really pointy, valuable and up.

28:50

Yeah they would put on wigs and since

28:52

city like civilian clothes and go hunt down

28:54

people they thought might have escaped from the

28:56

group. Think. I mean it was just

28:58

like and like you said, the costs. Are like were

29:00

outnumbered A and be to have emerged that

29:03

beauties so on. he once and exactly has

29:05

no one to call to protect you is

29:07

terrifying. Two.

29:10

Months after the formation of Her

29:12

Majesty's Imperial Marines, the woman for whom

29:14

the group was named lost her battle

29:17

with. Lung cancer. The. Passing

29:19

of his wife's. And sucked into a

29:21

spiral of disruption. He

29:23

immediately announced that he would accept

29:25

applications from any women who wanted

29:27

to marry him. Six.

29:30

Applied and he eventually chose a thirty

29:32

one year old. Truck. Was

29:34

so pleased with the experiment that he

29:36

mandated all married couples must separate from

29:39

their partners whether they wanted to or

29:41

not. Ensues and new. To.

29:44

Avoid complacency Check Instructed this

29:46

was to take place every

29:48

three years. This. Is

29:50

where got some people away because. They the man

29:53

was like I've been married to this lady

29:55

for twenty years now and her now and

29:57

then I'm gonna find somebody and then I

29:59

got a find another Carson and three years

30:01

like your leasing a car see I mean

30:03

that's exhaust six zero point of this lady

30:05

the and somebody he also did it was

30:08

his own kids you tell daddy your has

30:10

as are very good a business so. You're

30:12

actually gonna break. Up for them and I

30:14

think you should be with Lance or whoever

30:16

is some some random guy us and so

30:19

that he did it sits in Cjd basically

30:21

said interview. He basically broke up both mine

30:23

and my brothers marriages like that kind of

30:25

controls were horrible over at three hundred couples

30:28

eventually broke up and and mix up my

30:30

concern. Is for this thirty one year old. Seats.

30:32

See I think was. Role in it the were

30:34

sued the school teacher one of her students is like

30:36

oh I was in her class was she got the

30:38

call and she was like hulu. Yeah, I've been, you

30:40

know, As. I've been chosen. At.

30:43

Certain as his wife have yet to be checked

30:45

like the place of wife and then he. He.

30:48

Couldn't. Finish per day

30:51

and he couldn't. Finish. The

30:53

deed. And so he. I.

30:55

Don't know how that got out. I guess

30:57

maybe to see yell at him and a

30:59

game or he'll to her. Somehow I got

31:01

out that he was unable to finish in

31:03

bed So then he decided he was like

31:05

listen, no one's gonna have orgasms anymore so

31:07

you should all be edging. I have been

31:09

containing my power and meets by just edging

31:11

in. If all of you would just eggs

31:13

in impaler, it's his book. He wrote this

31:15

did not catch on. Yeah,

31:19

Stratton. Island to get the monitor the to agree

31:21

to school hear her he was try to save it

31:23

but you know it's another one of the things worse

31:25

is like whatever when he had he would be like

31:27

will. Know everybody does this or

31:29

whatever affect his hand like the

31:31

whole jogging and seven running. In

31:34

place and their health kick. It's

31:36

because his doctors without. Your.

31:38

Heart is can explode, smoke

31:40

and and all the time

31:42

greens trying to your whole

31:44

life. You scream on your

31:46

blood pressure, you're overweight, Like you

31:48

that is Youssef here if you want to

31:50

keep going and so and said i'm just

31:53

doing that he's like well if I gotta

31:55

do it everybody's gotta do at. The

31:58

same with working on your eyes like okay, Now

32:00

you ought to jog nice it out

32:02

now ya to get new wives. Yeah

32:04

it's just seized the shock isms and

32:07

this post religious declarations. they started collecting

32:09

everything he would say in these little

32:11

summaries and then they created this fellowship

32:13

or you could like go and study

32:16

all of such teachings in his. So

32:18

it's just further defying the person who

32:20

really is of of like. Decide.

32:23

Things on a whim. Yeah, Know.

32:25

He's an abusive person and.

32:28

Sounds. Like he has been his

32:30

whole life mean from hanging over they

32:32

a meeting six hundred just like holding

32:34

court that nobody asked him to hold

32:37

and then it is time have morphed

32:39

into this scene where. Like

32:42

so many others, his sights. Your.

32:44

Intentions might have been in the right

32:47

place maybe and the beginning, but once

32:49

you get a taste of that power

32:51

and money and control. Exists.

32:54

It. If you already. Had the propensity to

32:56

like let that make you become a horrible person.

32:58

It's this is like a snowball know you're right

33:01

it's a testing as as as you have like

33:03

okay war If I tell them that to get

33:05

a vasectomy will they do it would if I

33:07

have left to get a divorce or they do

33:09

so it goes one further went further and one

33:12

thing I took umbrage with in some of the

33:14

interviews with. Former. Members like current

33:16

day interviews with former members of like will

33:18

you leave Any Time and this is right

33:20

around the time in the ninth In like

33:22

Nineteen seventy Seven whence you could not like

33:25

they started getting because there was you knew

33:27

too much so I wanted to leave you.

33:29

Suddenly we're not able to leave you it

33:31

or I'll let your new job would get

33:33

phone calls And Felix does. You know this

33:35

person's a deviant. They were my wife swapping

33:37

in this caught that they ran and ran

33:39

and you for such that you did it

33:42

synonyms at your new job When it's like

33:44

I decided to leave this behind. So I

33:46

find that brings false you have like school it

33:48

was a voluntary group anyone can join. I'm like

33:50

absolutely not you were course to say and if

33:52

you left you were of like chased down and

33:54

I thought you saw something they would fly across

33:56

the country. And be your ass. Like that says

33:58

are you at least you hit. When it

34:00

was raining in our basement after you abandoned

34:02

us. So therefore. That stealing from us. So now we're

34:04

gonna beat your ass. Does

34:06

not sound of like a place. Three every

34:08

well. In.

34:11

The summer of Nineteen seventy Seven,

34:13

a housewife living in Santa Monica

34:16

named Francis when the struggling. With

34:18

depression. She dropped her husband

34:20

off at work on June six and headed

34:22

to a family planning. Clinic strain

34:24

obtain a tranquilizer. The.

34:26

Clinic explain they couldn't help with that

34:28

type of medicine and instead send her

34:30

to send and on and an act

34:32

of malpractice. As francis wandered

34:35

on the beach near Sin and on and

34:37

neighbor weren't her. if she went and she

34:39

would likely not come out. Francis.

34:42

Entered Anyway, She was taken into

34:45

an upstairs room for orientation. Without.

34:48

Her consent to send a nonresident

34:50

shaved. off her waist length hair

34:52

further sending her until mental spiral she

34:54

was in, locked into an apartment and

34:56

not allowed to call her husband who

34:59

was at home but this time and

35:01

worried sick. He. Had no idea

35:03

that is vulnerable. Love was in the

35:05

grips of a violent pulled. The.

35:09

Next day they put francis work

35:11

chopping vegetables and games, her aggressively

35:13

shouting and her that all her

35:16

behavior was wrong. Francis.

35:18

Then put on a bus and ship to

35:20

Marine County. While. They are.

35:22

She later recalled blacking out at times.

35:24

Being and says distress. Francis

35:27

with into a full psychotic episode which

35:29

kept her from believing any of the

35:31

send a non dogma. Eventually.

35:34

A sinner nonmember calls her husband

35:36

to explain. She was there to

35:39

do something with her life. Her.

35:41

Husband begged to take her back home and

35:43

even showed up and person to the me

35:46

and her release. He was

35:48

denied both times. Through.

35:51

A thread Francis has has that

35:53

met lawyer Pomeranz. On their

35:55

first call, Paul comforted the distraught man.

35:57

In guaranteed he would get francis bad.

36:00

When. Paul tried to reach out to

36:02

the licensing authority to complain. He found

36:05

in a non with not licensed by

36:07

any authorities at all. Paul.

36:09

Negotiated a call between Francis and

36:11

her husband. On. The call

36:13

francis said she wanted to come home.

36:16

Paul. Demanded her release. Send.

36:19

A non agreed that only of sciences

36:21

signed a release. Of all legal claims

36:23

against the group, When.

36:26

They came to pick France is set, sin

36:28

and on had not drafted. A release. Paul.

36:30

Quickly drafted one by hand, using language

36:33

friendly to his hands and sin and

36:35

on signed it. Called. Ensued,

36:37

sin and on on France's behalf.

36:40

The. Suit alleges kidnapping, false

36:42

imprisonment, and attempted brainwashing. The.

36:44

Latter was Paul recognize as never

36:46

before asserted and a California court.

36:50

Chess. With spurious. On.

36:52

The where he called Paul outside name

36:54

providing a much needed lifeline for those

36:56

who would leave the group. Check.

36:59

Ass over the wire. Who. Is

37:01

this guy Miranda? Why didn't someone

37:03

break his legs. This

37:06

is horrifying to think that there

37:08

were woman who. Was just

37:10

seeking help. Before.

37:13

She knows it, She's has or had

37:15

shades and she's locked in a room

37:17

in can contact her husband. I mean,

37:20

that is diabolical that would send anybody

37:22

into a psychotic episode, right? It's like

37:24

a horror film. truly that say winter

37:26

one place for medication and instead of

37:28

being referred somewhere appropriates was referred somewhere

37:30

that had just sort of gotten this

37:32

like nebulous. Positives: Nobody really was checking,

37:35

there were no licensing authorities have a

37:37

skating under the radar kind of things,

37:39

and then all of us and she's

37:41

halfway across the state. Chavan. Festivals and

37:43

their Telenor to take a mom's Pomeranz

37:46

was the perfect person to call because

37:48

he had previously had success blessed in

37:50

the lid off of the scam where

37:53

nursing homes were kidnappings, skid row guys

37:55

that were living on skid. Row

37:57

suffering from alcohol use disorder.

38:00

They would basically kidnapped them and second the

38:02

knees or thing homes and infill to stay

38:04

and say like oh we have nursing home

38:06

pay sense but really they were just these

38:08

bodies physically people that word as being sedated

38:10

like abuse like for money and Pomeranz is

38:12

the one that uncovered this and sued them

38:14

and so it was like when France's as

38:16

husband was like i think my wife is

38:18

kidnapped by a court his friends like. I.

38:20

Got a guy and Pomeranz is like so

38:23

the guy for this is he like that

38:25

the he's not so. Private. About

38:27

it, he's a republican. It's like he likes of

38:29

really actually wanted to be a screenwriter With that

38:31

was a dream I ended. Up being a lawyer

38:33

but he was a really good storyteller and

38:35

the thing that gets people to to change

38:37

their mind about things are to open their

38:39

eyes to things is never like yelling or

38:41

participants are facts like it's always story and

38:43

he i think he was really good at

38:45

saying like know this woman was kidnapped. And.

38:48

I am not only way that I got

38:50

her out with by literally hundreds hooking them

38:52

on a napkin because. They.

38:54

Were tricky. They would just move people. They get

38:56

the fact that even got them to bring her

38:58

to. Meet. In person was

39:00

dialed because for kids who would move

39:02

I'm still apparent last and whether kid

39:04

back or whatever it would move them locations.

39:07

It's. It's hard for

39:10

me to wrap my have had around like I'm. I'll

39:12

husband going to a clinic and

39:15

saying. I. Want my

39:17

wife fastener just like know? It

39:19

elms by like spot. While

39:22

okay, I can't call the

39:24

cops because. They're. Getting

39:26

paid off by. This guy? Like

39:28

What? The. Hopelessness,

39:31

The. That you feel in all think

39:33

it's. So illegal. Like the

39:35

yes hubris to see people think.

39:37

That we have every right. To do this

39:39

is the aisles known. I think you're right. They

39:42

do had so much confidence that they weren't going

39:44

to get busted for anything because a marine county.

39:46

they were getting busted for. Any think there was

39:48

such a small county with such limited resources, they

39:51

were just like oh sorry we would do something

39:53

that maybe maybe just give them some probation. Maybe

39:55

that's what I'm like please no contest as if

39:57

they don't do it again, it'll be okay. Smooth.

40:00

Down in Santa Monica and Los Angeles County

40:02

it started to be more. What the

40:04

fuck is going on Now You can't. Read

40:06

all of us when you're not. Scientology.

40:09

Keep us all in your back pocket. So

40:11

day I think they started seeing courts that

40:13

we're not as friendly to the sin and

40:15

on people down there and also fall marines

40:17

had a good reputation so it wasn't like

40:19

you with some yahoo come in and sound

40:21

like you gotta make sure that does he.

40:23

They're like oh this is the guy that

40:26

blew the lid off the skimmer, the skid

40:28

row issue and saved all those see both

40:30

he's probably got. he's probably on to something.

40:32

Any it on is also made like good

40:34

journalistic contacts with that last story so dense

40:36

t while sitting on the still. Getting great

40:38

press from a lotta other places, he was

40:40

able to get reporters to write on them

40:42

through silly especially about all this Francis When

40:44

stuff and shirts with like i wish he

40:47

was dead right now and his whole family

40:49

it's a very i'm he became legs al

40:51

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40:53

his family didn't want his house burned down

40:55

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40:57

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41:11

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41:14

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41:16

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41:18

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41:20

this new apartment I moved into and these people

41:22

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41:24

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41:27

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41:29

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41:32

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41:34

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43:22

November Nineteen Seventy Seven Cinema

43:24

was increasingly violent and not

43:26

facing consequences. The. Imperial Marines

43:29

as well as everyday members

43:31

would seek retribution for perceived

43:33

slights. Against the group. Some

43:35

infractions were as innocent as accidentally

43:37

veering into the lane there's cinnamon

43:40

vehicle while driving. The. Group

43:42

would run down locals and inflict

43:44

violent beatings on them, knocking up

43:47

he's drawing blood and damaging property.

43:50

Alvin game been. He was from

43:52

arranging family nearby. His. Property

43:54

boarded to send him on compounds along

43:56

a to mile shots in maroon county.

44:00

The group had an easement. she is a

44:02

road through albums property. At. First

44:04

they were friendly with a razor. Thin.

44:06

Cinema began encroaching on albums.

44:08

Land ceiling, fertilizer and cutting locks

44:11

on his senses. Worst.

44:13

Of all avenues was played host

44:15

to kids fleeing. The Pump Squad. The.

44:18

Crying scared used would arrive on the

44:20

game but any source Seth at all

44:22

hours of the night pleading for help.

44:25

Group. Leaders had told the younger members

44:27

that rangers like Alban would shoot them

44:29

on said. That. One

44:32

teen girl cross offensive to am and

44:34

told Alvin she wasn't. Afraid to

44:36

be shot because. But. Am I had

44:38

to lose? And. Said

44:40

the gave it a nice were extremely

44:42

welcoming. Alvin in his wife would

44:45

by bus tickets with their own money to

44:47

get the kids back to waiting relatives and

44:49

other cities and states. To. Couple

44:51

would routinely receive thank you letters

44:53

and in some cases, reimbursement of

44:56

their expenses from grateful runaways and

44:58

their families. In. June

45:00

of Nineteen Seventy Seven Alone, Thirty

45:02

kids between ages of eleven. And.

45:05

Eighteen ran from the sun and on

45:07

facilities courting to testimony from the former

45:09

President of Son and on. Lives,

45:11

necessity and. As. Are not

45:13

good numbers. Thirty kids in one

45:16

month is not girl and bless

45:18

these people. My goodness you're haven't

45:20

already to deal with like the

45:22

worst neighbors. One can possibly imagine, but

45:25

if it were me I would also

45:27

feel kind of like. At.

45:31

Att det to say there's is to

45:33

held have kids because like if not

45:35

us who then you know they raise.

45:37

Your kind of their only saving grace

45:39

and you're able to the to help

45:41

you know is when they they come

45:43

to yourself. Is horrible as it

45:45

would be to live there. I would also be

45:47

like. But. I gotta help the kids that

45:49

do come looking for help right? And you also

45:51

I mean and and good the gave a nice

45:53

I believe his family and on that land for

45:55

like seventy five years you're like this is my

45:57

family farm home and like I'm not leaving decision.

46:00

Then and it is I complete the microcosm of

46:02

what they did to the town of like they're

46:04

like oh we have an easement across Really a

46:06

no worries they just stuck to that is miss

46:08

and then a. Little bit more have moved a little bit

46:10

more, moved a little bit more modest and them are like we're cutting

46:12

the send some by the way and. He's like will actually

46:15

that that's overdoing it. Sell the but And

46:17

there's ten thousand four hundred people in overalls

46:19

that are ready to literally beat your ass

46:21

as he says anything about itself. He was

46:23

already crossed laser them trying to cut as

46:25

assert his legal rights. they didn't like that

46:27

and then especially on top of that knowing

46:29

that the kids were running since he's like

46:31

I first called the sheriff the sheriff like

46:33

okay was a set him back and we

46:36

were like. No, Don't Do

46:38

that. So he would just tell the kids

46:40

okay we'll who do you want to call the

46:42

g the bus ticket like what can we do

46:44

and they like red letters out loud and interviews

46:46

of like steer Mr Mrs damn funny like I

46:48

wouldn't have lived without you like thank you so

46:51

much I made it back says you know Portland

46:53

or Colorado or wherever their families and sent them

46:55

Monkey said you would feel that you could tell

46:57

the game and ease like are indebted. They are

46:59

like those kids didn't deserve that. the the people

47:01

take in charge of a morass old those kids

47:04

and do. Anything wrong like liberalism. Yeah.

47:08

One. Evening Alvin was. Attacked with his

47:10

family and their car. At

47:12

first it was a handful of cinema men.

47:15

Eventually, over three dozen bald

47:17

didn't claussen a nice ran

47:20

at the family wielding ops

47:22

handles, One. Neighboring witness said

47:24

it look like a scene of a

47:26

Clockwork Orange. And the

47:28

end Alvin had once his craft

47:30

another chips a muscle in his

47:32

arm torn and to permanent scars

47:34

on his face. And. Additional

47:37

incidence. Neighbors were beaten kids

47:39

and their tires slashed and were

47:41

robbed of wallets, jewelry, and clothing.

47:44

Black. Victims were called the inward. Each.

47:47

Time Center on Residents. Would plead

47:49

guilty and be given probation, a small

47:51

fine, and perhaps a week or two

47:53

in jail. And that's what

47:55

it was his. They beat the shit out of this

47:58

other farmer who then went. to go Point

48:00

them out of a lineup. Well meanwhile, Sennanon because

48:02

they had somebody in the sheriff's office knew the

48:05

lineup was happening They had a Dave look-alike contest

48:07

and they got all men to grow their mustaches

48:09

out to look like this one Sennanon member So

48:11

then in the lineup the ranchers like well

48:14

shit. They all look now it was the one with

48:16

the mustache Well now they all have mustaches and they

48:18

did it on purpose So then the DA's like well

48:20

Sorry, I have to drop charges because you can't identify

48:23

who your assailant is and they were doing this Alvin's

48:25

like kids were in The car his son was like

48:27

I was terrified. I ran out of the car and

48:29

got a neighbor They were trying to

48:31

pull Alvin out of the car smash the back

48:34

windshield smash the side windows. It

48:36

turned into this I can't under like overstay

48:38

It's like a riot situation in this small

48:40

town where these people would just be sleeping

48:42

and all of a sudden Five Sennanon vehicles

48:44

would just descend on their house Flip the lights

48:46

on and then inside of each of those vehicles

48:48

was five or six people so then

48:50

all of a sudden you have a mob of 30 ball

48:53

headed people in fucking coveralls with

48:56

Just like pipes and flashlights beating you. No.

48:59

Yeah, it's a total mob mentality

49:02

and also Part

49:04

of me wonders like were these

49:06

people kind of just ticking time bombs?

49:08

I mean you've you've had all

49:10

this anger going on in this

49:12

group and You

49:14

know Chuck like to think it was Expressing

49:17

it and getting it out there. So you're

49:19

you're healing Or

49:22

It's making everything way worse and everyone is

49:24

just so pissed off now and has so

49:26

much rage inside of them But now you

49:28

give them a baseball bat and

49:30

permission to go ape shit and they're

49:32

like say less and yeah I'm

49:35

Tara's this town. Yeah, you're right And by this

49:37

point anybody that would even say well, you know

49:39

tough told us we should do that But I

49:41

wasn't sure you were supposed to report them and

49:43

they had to get immediately kicked out Chuck was

49:45

like there is no questioning you either accept it

49:47

fully or you're kicked out and you are not

49:50

allowed to come back in and We'll in fact

49:52

Essentially strip you naked and beat you beat the

49:54

shit out of you and throw you out when

49:56

you got kicked out because it was Sennin ons

49:58

clothes like that's our clothes Our sad

50:00

and so yeah you're right when you get people

50:02

that are juice up under orders that are like

50:05

the orders our defense and and on he said

50:07

basically you have to beat their asses and sakes

50:09

don't fuck with sin and on and tell your

50:11

friends and i was like would do you and

50:14

of him in that it was you spent any

50:16

time anywhere cause they don't considerable say didn't reading

50:18

a week in jail or a fine us nothing

50:20

compared to like get into the the says they

50:23

were doing and sitting on would pay your fine

50:25

and then they also instructed hey when you send

50:27

on said when he that it was interested be

50:29

like. Oh the group didn't tell me to do this. I acted

50:31

alone. And when you're

50:34

the coffee like. Not. A sick,

50:36

What an effervescent. Also the Sheriff's deputies

50:38

are members that yeah you also get

50:40

to play the martyr and be you

50:43

know Here are your own Yeah. But.

50:46

The lawsuit on behalf of Francis when

50:49

seem to open the floodgates. Alvin T.

50:51

and Than any. Sued for damages related

50:53

to his has had. A local

50:55

tucker has been pistol. Whipped. By a gang

50:57

of send a nice suit as wall. Level

51:00

of the distance represented Bulkheads

51:02

new number one enemy lawyer

51:04

Paul Martin. And see,

51:06

think about a year in the coal and you're like

51:08

I'm trying to get out and on the wire. Text

51:11

like Pomerantz his his son of a bitch to get

51:13

a bring sit in on down. The second you get

51:15

free you're like. Just Operator has

51:17

a similar to to be Pomerantz so

51:19

into a phone book. In.

51:23

December Nineteen: Seventy Seven, Time

51:25

Magazine published a scathing. Article

51:27

calling the group a cookie

51:30

colt. Set instructed his

51:32

own lawyers to sue for seventy

51:34

eight million dollars. He. Was

51:36

unnerved by the negative. Peppers and multiple

51:39

lawsuits from injured people. At

51:42

a party, a Marine County journalists Dave

51:44

and Kathy missiles house that same month.

51:46

a man whose father was in the

51:48

group commented. That looks to a

51:50

lot of people like just going crazy. And.

51:54

December Nineteen Seventy seven He thought he

51:56

was gonna get Time Magazine manager year

51:58

he sighs. gonna get the Nobel Peace

52:00

Prize. Hey Connie Chung was interviewing s

52:02

Time as interview and and this is

52:04

giving his side's just divine fucking it's

52:06

a Media With Vanity Fair comes out

52:08

it's like oh no, he was a

52:11

loose. And he sees it that way

52:13

to and and. I'm. Not time head of

52:15

the year and said I've been labelled a

52:17

super cold leaders his eyes to see cult

52:19

leader of the year it is a it

52:21

was it's s divine moment of like they

52:23

are an enemy now and we're going to

52:26

sue them but it's just it's crazy how

52:28

the behavior is the same. As forty years

52:30

later, I'm a friend. The same said. or fifty years.

52:33

Yeah, and it's also be noted that. I.

52:36

Don't know if he was is open about it

52:38

at the time that later it was pretty well

52:40

now that after that he died he was. Just

52:42

openly drinking. Yeah or my are

52:44

openly in front of everybody. But

52:46

he was certainly drinking and was

52:48

drunk all the time. And. Co

52:50

I'd like to have we incoherent the i'm the

52:52

board member said we are we would bring him

52:55

he would want vog. Ten Water said he

52:57

would think he uses drinking water. And

52:59

they're like we makes as much water as the

53:01

code in there. but it's like keeps. he knew

53:03

he was drinking, he wanted to be drinking. So

53:05

yeah, that makes of getting caught a cookie caught.

53:08

Now. He was. Plus, all this. Power and

53:10

Control insists. I mean, I'm serve

53:12

with that. Power and Control also

53:14

comes at a huge amount of

53:17

stress. Yeah, when you're you're doing

53:19

in this organization you're running. So

53:21

he was. He

53:23

was a ticking time bomb. The whole thing was

53:25

no in it and you're right, I think they're

53:27

added to that stresses. At this point, they had

53:29

like four hundred vehicles. Cars, trucks, motorcycles, three

53:31

bodes, three properties, Nine hundred people I

53:33

mean six airplanes. They had a donated

53:35

computer system that was worth like two

53:38

hundred thousand dollars and they had already

53:40

bought. World will talk about their guns

53:42

here in a minute but they had

53:44

all this. He had a ton of

53:46

assets a he was managing and also

53:48

vein as he had as and tax

53:50

exempt entity and I think he knew

53:52

and his attorneys were like this isn't

53:55

gonna last one was the Iris is

53:57

gonna figure this out So then this

53:59

is writer the time that he started

54:01

trying to restructure money to move money

54:03

to himself and to the other. Board

54:05

members see that you're going to be so fucking rich.

54:07

It was his son, daughter, son and then some other

54:10

insiders. But people are paying to be in

54:12

their side. couple hundred bucks a month and so

54:14

there is so money coming in from add get

54:16

from that. So I think he started our say

54:18

seeing the writings on the walls but it was

54:20

like. Some. Of the iris is gonna

54:22

get wise to this. Like let's essentially launder

54:24

money. To ourselves it's a lot

54:26

of moving parts up with in

54:29

which. Is difficult and any

54:31

times but when you're drunk

54:33

and. Mentally spiraling, it's

54:35

even hotter with. In.

54:39

January of Nineteen Seventy Eight

54:41

Cinema. Bought a hundred and seventy two

54:43

dimes weapons and ammunition and from a

54:45

gun dealer in. San. Francisco for a

54:48

whopping sixty thousand dollars. says.

54:51

Defended the purchases are telling news outlets

54:53

that there were threats on his life

54:55

following the bad pass from the Time

54:57

Magazine soy. It's I

54:59

told reporters at the time that he

55:01

couldn't be responsible for what angry members

55:03

did in retaliation. Not? don't know with

55:05

these. People. Might do. I don't know what

55:08

acts and they might take against the people. Responsible.

55:10

Otherwise, their children's bombs could

55:12

be thrown into odd places.

55:14

Into the homes of some of the

55:16

clowns who occupies high places in the

55:19

time organization. Don't.

55:21

Be stand bomb in his interview church. He's

55:23

like i don't know what my members might

55:25

do when I yell. At them on a radio

55:27

to do it. As.

55:29

The negative press mounted so did

55:32

synonyms. Counterattack strategy. To.

55:34

Insert is legal department to change

55:36

the defendant names on the libel

55:38

citizens. And begin suing any media

55:40

outlets that covered the group And a negative

55:43

light. This. Practice would prove

55:45

to be a sample. For.

55:47

A man who was constantly recording himself

55:49

and creating internal. Memos be telling

55:51

acts of violence and abuse. Legal

55:54

discovery was a scary thing. Opposing.

55:57

Counsel begins. Amazing. To inspect the

55:59

group's book. The and records as part of the

56:01

Last is. Giving. An adversary.

56:03

Access to the group's records. Was tantamount

56:06

to a confession. Instead.

56:08

Set instructed Cinnamon members to

56:10

begin destroying documents and tapes

56:12

rather than reveal them to

56:14

their opponents. In.

56:16

Some memos and tapes that we're

56:19

not destroyed check instructed members to

56:21

commit violence, take personal responsibility for

56:23

it, And never reveal

56:25

synonyms involvement. He. Made it

56:27

clear that anyone who went to jail for

56:30

synonyms was a martyr like himself and should

56:32

be treated as a hero. Other.

56:35

Night heroes by at the people

56:37

that had to delete all and

56:39

check stuff. It was like Lucien

56:41

at All the Chocolate Factory to the soon

56:43

as they're like shredding memos. he's is making

56:45

more memos. they're like he sat down at

56:47

breakfast a five thirty or six am in

56:49

the mornings this motherfucker would start talking with

56:52

the mike in front of them and would

56:54

not stop and it would be someone whole

56:56

job to does transcriber. Any would say things

56:58

like I want Pomeranz destroyed and I don't

57:00

care who knows it. Okay well now you

57:02

can says that they say that makes me

57:04

a pass it on record Meron Yeah he

57:06

took the audio recordings and then they would

57:08

transcribed them and then they. Would take the transcripts

57:11

and then they will put them in the summaries and

57:13

then the summaries of be timed and dated and all

57:15

day. So you are just creating this huge on discovery.

57:17

Log for either criminal or civil and

57:19

as deputy. Somebody.

57:22

Starting. To talk to me at five

57:24

thirty am and I'm talking to me and

57:26

so I don't know, midnight and then probably

57:29

waking me up and the mills and Nine

57:31

to do a drill. Yeah,

57:33

it would be like this. Woman was arrested

57:35

for killing us as of I mean.

57:37

I would lose their by me. I

57:40

guess you get so you're so ingrained.

57:42

years is so ingrained that is Knowing

57:44

that my commentary. On how I can't handle

57:46

any player hopkins me that much I that

57:48

have my. Own downtown and especially his

57:50

pipe in his voice into the

57:52

bathroom. Your life's the one place

57:54

I can have a little bit

57:56

a solitude. Roman I go to

57:58

have my morning. The Constitution is

58:01

like now I'm Pomerantz dad just some

58:03

voice, the ballpark croaking, just scream and

58:05

and you hear constantly is almost like

58:07

mid Atlantic just to to me he

58:10

gives like I think I said at.

58:12

One. Of the other ones like Barnum and Bailey. Kind

58:14

of like yeah yeah, like a separate

58:17

of folks. That salesman

58:19

that's certainly a performer. and I'm.

58:22

As a result of the press, a

58:25

grand jury was convened to look into

58:27

the group's practices and make recommendations for

58:29

enforcement to the county officials. The.

58:31

Bombshell Report was issued on Nurse

58:34

Third, nineteen Seventy Eight. The.

58:36

Grand Jury concluded it was inappropriate

58:38

for the sheriff to deputize this

58:40

and non residents. It also

58:42

erste authorities to look into allegations

58:44

of child. Abuse. And the legalities

58:47

as sin and on security force and

58:49

arsenal. It. Describes and I'm

58:51

on as an organization that has

58:53

changed from and benevolent group of

58:55

rehabilitated addicts to and autocracies which

58:57

refuses to observe the rules of

58:59

the very society it proposes to

59:01

help. Over a period of

59:04

years obvious scenes his have taken place

59:06

and materialism seems to have altered Sin

59:08

and Ons underlying philosophy. With.

59:11

All the negative press know the link. The Grand.

59:13

Jury. Report some residents. Found

59:16

it odd that local law enforcement was not

59:18

harsher on the group. And. Internal

59:20

source admitted to the Point Reyes

59:22

Lights that the county attorney was

59:24

terrified of synonyms, which is his

59:26

reputation said they weren't. Even enforcing

59:29

zoning violations anymore. Much.

59:31

Less investigating. Child abuse. Bless.

59:34

At least his and a non members. Were

59:36

sheriff's deputies. The. District attorney

59:38

also claims how the piece was not

59:40

in history. A stepson. Sit.

59:42

In on it seems to that. Violently

59:45

without any criminal repercussions.

59:48

And I think this is a perfect example

59:50

of he caught a slippery slope earlier when

59:52

they move in and the the county's like

59:54

well as a grand jury was in marine

59:56

county where they had kind of to mala

59:58

say like this a facility on. Would

1:00:00

you know it? Well we'll give you is

1:00:02

on a session for a t minds and

1:00:04

and eighteen months you have to give us

1:00:06

his plan leading give a plane and eighteen

1:00:08

months and in eighteen months they had expanded

1:00:10

like five times the size eight already been

1:00:12

and by then the little small governments like

1:00:14

could you maybe please give us to play

1:00:16

him and they're like yeah no we will

1:00:18

mine and so it's like by is so

1:00:20

now you're in an area where there is

1:00:22

there's a miniature town of people that can

1:00:24

do whatever they want and have begun arrest

1:00:26

senior citizens like Marine County people was the

1:00:28

driving down the road in. A sin and

1:00:30

on thought you looked like somebody who maybe

1:00:32

harassment say would pull you over and kidnap

1:00:34

you and take you back to their facilities.

1:00:37

beat you. For. However long they want it's and

1:00:39

then come and drop you off somewhere and if you

1:00:41

complain it would be like while the mean he let

1:00:43

you go so. Also, which one was it?

1:00:45

And you're like the Baldwin in the overalls and

1:00:47

they're like. About

1:00:50

that. Yeah, it's it's. kind of

1:00:53

gives murder Mountain like Susan blonde

1:00:55

for census out numbered at some.

1:00:57

Point in their like or we

1:00:59

even like all the. Is

1:01:01

also like many of the episodes we saw

1:01:04

an Inside the World Satisfaction and that we

1:01:06

covered in one of our money third one

1:01:08

patriot that like. Even

1:01:10

law enforcement inclusion become outnumbered

1:01:12

by the violence that the.

1:01:15

Prisoners are? you know they're in charge.

1:01:17

So your silence? All right? You're right.

1:01:19

I'll make the rules and we're just

1:01:21

gonna everything in and try to coexist

1:01:23

with a sub. Nah! Man,

1:01:25

the people are supposed to be like

1:01:27

protecting us should be the ones that

1:01:29

have the most force behind them. And.

1:01:32

That's just not the case If you're a

1:01:34

resident there and you're not a sin and

1:01:36

on person who's trying to live there, you're

1:01:39

living under a complete regime of fear that.

1:01:41

He didn't sign up for. you're right, Another

1:01:43

brill rub about it was is this is

1:01:46

wanting to pay in taxes they have. This

1:01:48

is on everything. none of the federal income

1:01:50

tax which pisses me off. The for the

1:01:52

folks around there they were not paying property

1:01:54

taxes. They were a surviving of Providence are

1:01:57

not surviving that they were xenophon from property

1:01:59

tax exemption. Which mean our feelings

1:02:01

Yes the game bunnies, fertilizer yet have you

1:02:03

are paying proper yeah exists other mooching off

1:02:05

of the people that are even like abiding

1:02:07

by the rules and they will take over.

1:02:09

We provided you with this, the ambulance and

1:02:11

we provide you with this fire truck and

1:02:14

it's like but arguably the strings are attached

1:02:16

because you are creating the beatings that needs

1:02:18

that necessitate the ambulance. Yeah. So early,

1:02:20

not for. Your. Year

1:02:22

creating the need and also providing the

1:02:24

health and it doesn't make any sense

1:02:27

like just Elim in my also why

1:02:29

do you have a fires rotten an

1:02:31

ambulance? I think she's even have these

1:02:33

things and I mean it. He

1:02:36

said have been look that much harder

1:02:38

and the. Charges the came

1:02:41

against says have been much notice. Who

1:02:43

the fuck is ever gonna say as

1:02:45

the district. Attorney. Child. Abuse.

1:02:47

This isn't. Minds her assistant, i'm

1:02:49

sorry it's who it is. Any

1:02:51

type of whatever is going on,

1:02:53

it's illegal. If it happens in

1:02:55

your jurisdiction, your the run responsible

1:02:57

for taking care of it and

1:02:59

you're right. And at The local

1:03:01

officials who did post for the

1:03:03

grand juries are. Obviously suffered repercussions

1:03:05

and an arm and always call people.

1:03:08

And hang up there with they they're going

1:03:10

to kill on. They would rather have satellites

1:03:12

in the window. So the elected officials and

1:03:14

law enforcement who did not enforce these laws

1:03:17

and they're they're. Responsible partially for the abuse

1:03:19

of others kids that happened tell for surveys the

1:03:21

game in any new from sec the first one

1:03:23

that ran off what was going on out there

1:03:25

and was like sorry could you can call the

1:03:28

cops of that thing I can do for he

1:03:30

is a bus ticket self that like large systemic

1:03:32

failures always really hard to see. Yeah.

1:03:34

Everybody sell them. One.

1:03:37

Of the many violent criminal attacks

1:03:40

occurred. Against a former member and Nineteen

1:03:42

Seventy Eight. One. System A

1:03:44

on Residents fill. Ritter left the group

1:03:46

after It's Focus. Shifted from one of

1:03:49

rehabilitation to one of control and

1:03:51

violence. Hoping. To escape

1:03:53

the grips of the cold, ritter move to

1:03:55

Detroit. After leaving the group. His.

1:03:57

Wife stayed. Along. With the couple.

1:04:00

young daughter. Desperate to

1:04:02

save his daughter from the cult, Ritter

1:04:04

sued both Sinonon and his wife in

1:04:06

an attempt to gain custody. Unfortunately

1:04:09

for Ritter, Chuchen instructed his

1:04:11

Imperial Marines to compile a quote

1:04:13

hit list of any former member

1:04:15

that tried to slander the Sinonon

1:04:18

name. Phil Ritter was

1:04:20

on this list. And Phil was

1:04:22

interviewed in the the Sinonon fix and was kind

1:04:24

of high up in the group and had been

1:04:26

there for a long time, but really it was

1:04:28

like this vasectomy thing. And like

1:04:31

after that like okay now you have to get

1:04:33

rid of your spouse. It started so he left

1:04:35

like in January of 77 really when all that

1:04:37

stuff started taking off, but that's got to be

1:04:40

the hardest fucking thing when you're like my

1:04:42

kid what am I gonna do? My kid

1:04:44

and my wife who yeah I mean you

1:04:47

who knows you might still love her you

1:04:49

want to also save her but you can't be like

1:04:51

your kid is a different story and you're

1:04:55

there you're outnumbered like they're threats of violence

1:04:57

and just being like nah you're not gonna

1:04:59

take her like what are you gonna

1:05:01

do? Yeah you know? And Paul Marantz had

1:05:03

to help this grandma get three kids out

1:05:06

and it took him like literally tricking them

1:05:08

and not putting his own name on the

1:05:10

position to even get Sinonon to bring kids

1:05:12

because Marin County Sheriff's anytime they would have

1:05:14

like a basically a writ that says

1:05:16

custody wise you got to bring the kid in.

1:05:19

The sheriff's would go yeah we can't serve this they're not

1:05:21

gonna listen to us so sorry. So Paul

1:05:23

Marantz would have to like trick him to go

1:05:25

to whole different counties to deliver kids and stuff

1:05:27

I mean that's how bad it was this is

1:05:29

a I don't ever want anybody with their like

1:05:31

kind of rose-colored glasses looking back going like well

1:05:33

it wasn't that bad of a group it was

1:05:35

it tore families apart and yeah worse to feel

1:05:37

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1:05:39

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September 19th, 1978, Imperial Marines, Alan

1:07:22

Hubbard and Joseph Musico showed

1:07:24

up to Ritter's home, who was now

1:07:26

living in Berkeley, California. Using

1:07:29

wooden mallets, the two men viciously

1:07:31

beat Ritter in his own driveway. The

1:07:33

Imperial Marines only fled once a crowd

1:07:36

of concerned neighbors began to form. Luckily,

1:07:39

Ritter survived his life-threatening injuries.

1:07:42

But I mean, his skull was crushed. He

1:07:44

spent a week in a coma. Yeah, in

1:07:46

a coma, yeah. They thought he might not

1:07:48

live. Oh, I'm surprised you did. I think

1:07:51

people started gathering and were like, what the

1:07:53

hell's going on? Or

1:07:55

if these two men had more of

1:07:58

them there, you know, were some angry.

1:08:00

mom they're like get back in your houses

1:08:02

you don't see anything happening here like he

1:08:05

would have died I mean it was just people

1:08:07

coming out and kind of maybe

1:08:09

they felt like well we've we've sent our

1:08:11

message you know don't fuck with us again

1:08:14

but meanwhile his kids

1:08:16

still in the cult yeah and his neighbors all

1:08:18

had to see that happen and go yeah it's

1:08:20

too bald guys and that's traumatic and it's traumatic

1:08:22

you know see that kind of stuff like that

1:08:25

ripple effect of like you don't

1:08:27

forget seeing your neighbor get the shit beaten out

1:08:29

of him with a wooden mallet in his driveway

1:08:31

no not at all after

1:08:35

Phil Ritter was clubbed so hard by other

1:08:37

members he was put into a coma in September of

1:08:39

1978 Paul Marantz was scared

1:08:42

for his safety telling the

1:08:44

publication paleo future when

1:08:46

they did Phil Ritter I knew that it was inevitable

1:08:49

that they were coming for me that was the

1:08:51

hardest two weeks of my life on

1:08:53

October 10th Paul met with the

1:08:55

California Attorney General's office to discuss

1:08:58

the credibility of threats against his

1:09:00

life after the meeting

1:09:02

Paul headed back to his home in

1:09:04

Los Angeles where he planned on watching

1:09:06

game one of the Yankees Dodgers World

1:09:08

Series earlier

1:09:10

that day Paul's neighbors had seen something

1:09:12

strange but didn't want to bother him

1:09:14

at work a green

1:09:16

Plymouth executive sedan was slowly driving

1:09:18

down the street at

1:09:20

one point it stopped and the young

1:09:22

man exited with a parcel he

1:09:25

shoved the parcel into Paul's mailbox and

1:09:27

left it seems like

1:09:29

a legitimate delivery but Paul's neighbor noted

1:09:31

the car's license plate just in case

1:09:35

around 5 30 p.m. Paul entered

1:09:37

his home in his book

1:09:39

from miracle to madness Paul described his

1:09:41

mailbox as a shoot on the outside

1:09:44

leading to a metal grid opening on

1:09:46

the inside without his

1:09:48

glasses or contacts in the fading light

1:09:50

he thought he saw a long scarf

1:09:52

or oddly shaped package with his mail

1:09:55

he headed over and opened the box with

1:09:57

his right hand while reaching in with his

1:09:59

leg A rattlesnake

1:10:02

with its rattle removed bit him

1:10:04

on his left wrist Can

1:10:07

you? begin to

1:10:09

imagine Can

1:10:12

anyone begin to imagine you go

1:10:14

I opened my mailbox

1:10:16

the other day and a wasp was

1:10:18

in there And I lost my shit

1:10:21

imagine if a four foot Rattlesnake

1:10:23

that's so many boiled inside of there

1:10:25

and you put your hand in and

1:10:27

it immediately strikes at you Four

1:10:30

feet. I think McGruff is two feet Well,

1:10:32

like so it's two of McGruff It's two if

1:10:34

you think of how long the gruff is and

1:10:37

he's long I'm holding him up for those of

1:10:39

you watching on YouTube or ad free on patreon I

1:10:42

mean, that's one of them across for

1:10:44

scale here McGruffers. Yeah, you know to

1:10:46

to the cross And

1:10:51

just those fangs and his rattle

1:10:53

have been removed so you don't even hear it

1:10:55

and also Let's

1:10:58

not forget how scared this snake must

1:11:00

be the snake didn't ask for this

1:11:02

No, what's rattle removed, which is how

1:11:05

he protects himself and warns people like

1:11:07

hey, I'm here. Don't come at me

1:11:10

He's put in a bag and shoved in this

1:11:12

thing. He didn't know where he's at. And then

1:11:14

of course they kill him afterwards because That

1:11:17

snake loose, of course they did. Yeah, I mean

1:11:20

So it's it's very it's terrifying But

1:11:23

it's also very sad that they involved a

1:11:25

help animal that had nothing to do with

1:11:27

this and what a fucking Crazy

1:11:30

way to also try and kill somebody

1:11:32

it's it's very eerie And the the scarier

1:11:35

part is earlier in the day that Plymouth

1:11:37

got stopped two different times by two In

1:11:40

one case it was stopped by a police officer in

1:11:42

one case It was seen by a car that it

1:11:44

just seemed kind of weird because half of his license

1:11:46

plate the letters were like taped over So that from

1:11:48

far away you wouldn't be able to write the license

1:11:50

plate down But still some of the letters were enough

1:11:53

But then another different cop pulled it over

1:11:55

because of that same thing in the cop

1:11:57

searched the car including he opened the trunk

1:12:00

and in the trunk he just saw a canvas bag

1:12:02

because the snake was in the bag. Thank God the

1:12:04

cop wasn't like, mind if I look in his bag?

1:12:06

I mean the cop would've gotten bitten. But then he

1:12:09

should've looked in the bag. Why don't you just

1:12:11

search a car or not? Look in the canvas bag.

1:12:13

Yeah, he probably should've just searched the bag. But they

1:12:16

took that, I mean it was a two

1:12:18

layer county rattle thing. It was a type

1:12:20

of rattle thing that's found in the area

1:12:22

where synodon had facilities that was not Los

1:12:24

Angeles, it was not native, and its rattle

1:12:27

had been removed. So you know it was

1:12:29

there to not be seen but to be

1:12:31

felt. And boy did Paul Marantz feel it,

1:12:34

because he got it, the wrist man, because

1:12:36

your veins are right there, and it's blood,

1:12:38

blood, blood. God, and like the last thing

1:12:40

you're expecting when you reach in

1:12:42

to get your mail is a snake biting

1:12:44

you. That's the terror. And

1:12:47

then I'm also like, what

1:12:50

was the end game here? Like if

1:12:52

he dies, then what? What

1:12:54

is the story of like, oh a

1:12:56

rattlesnake that's not even native to this

1:12:58

area was in his mailbox. Like they're

1:13:00

gonna come looking for who would have

1:13:02

motive and question you and like, how

1:13:05

are you gonna explain that way? Yeah, you're

1:13:07

not gonna- Somebody saw you put this in

1:13:09

the mailbox earlier in the day. There was

1:13:11

no really like thinking things

1:13:13

through. It was all very like in

1:13:16

the moment, just knee jerk reactions

1:13:18

to things. Well and it's like, oh

1:13:20

you know what'll really show them? A

1:13:22

rattlesnake. And like you said, they don't really

1:13:24

extrapolate it to its natural conclusion. It's like,

1:13:26

no one will ever know it was us.

1:13:28

We'll just put tape over our license plate.

1:13:30

But luckily Paul had told his neighbors. He

1:13:32

was, I mean, the thing after Phil Ritter,

1:13:34

he was super paranoid. He's like, every time

1:13:36

I started my car, I checked underneath it

1:13:38

because I didn't know if there was a

1:13:40

bomb. I looked over my shoulder. Of course

1:13:42

he loved it. I was the godfather. Yes,

1:13:44

yes. So there he goes. So he thought

1:13:46

he was gonna get shot honestly or blown

1:13:48

up because he was like, Chuck liked the

1:13:50

godfather mafia stuff. So he's like, I bought a

1:13:52

shotgun. Paul said, I bought a shotgun for my own house.

1:13:55

I had my two dogs. Luckily

1:13:57

the dogs weren't bitten by the rattlesnake. They ran out of the

1:13:59

house. the house but he was living this like paranoid

1:14:01

life and one of those things was telling his neighbors

1:14:04

hey if you see anything just like note it down

1:14:06

it might help me and it was very helpful when

1:14:08

two different neighbors were like it was a green planet

1:14:10

and this was the license plate. And good for those

1:14:12

neighbors for understanding the assignment and

1:14:14

looking out for them. Paul

1:14:18

screamed and ran out the back door of his

1:14:21

house. Quick actions by his

1:14:23

neighbors had Paul at the hospital with

1:14:25

anti-venom within an hour. After

1:14:27

an investigation police determined two

1:14:30

syn-non members, Joe Musico 28

1:14:33

and Lance Kinton 20 were

1:14:35

responsible. Paul Marantz made

1:14:37

sure that tapes of check making threats

1:14:39

on the wire were played openly in

1:14:41

court so that journalists could get the

1:14:44

story out. In addition

1:14:46

to LA County DA's office prosecuting

1:14:48

the rattlesnake case, a multi-agency

1:14:50

task force was also set up

1:14:52

by the governor to look into

1:14:54

all the other many allegations against

1:14:56

syn-non. Yeah his neighbors were

1:14:58

like a task force so fast they all

1:15:01

ran outside when they heard him screaming. One

1:15:03

neighbor called 911, another one

1:15:06

was like ran and got iced and then a

1:15:08

third had just done snake bite training like talk

1:15:10

about what weird the weird

1:15:12

universe coming together and so stripped his shirt off

1:15:15

and used his shirt as a tourniquet to stop

1:15:17

the venom from like coursing through his body and

1:15:19

then a fourth one was like you got to

1:15:21

cut it and like bleed to essentially get the

1:15:23

venom out so he was helping with that. So

1:15:26

it was within like 10 minutes there the ambulance

1:15:28

was on the scene they were like treating it

1:15:30

his first words were like syn-non did this to

1:15:32

me it was syn-non and he also

1:15:34

began yelling the name of an LA Times reporter

1:15:37

who he had been working with because he was

1:15:39

like I thought they were going to go after

1:15:41

her next because she had been basically publishing anything

1:15:43

Paul had sent to her but

1:15:46

he was very smart I think in having the

1:15:48

tapes of Chuck played in public because he said

1:15:50

I didn't want them to ever deny that he

1:15:52

said those things a memo you could deny but

1:15:54

he said I knew if I could get the

1:15:56

audio of his voice the same one that talked

1:15:58

to the governor the same that talked

1:16:00

to all of these like you know civic

1:16:02

organizations that he was like I'm Neil they

1:16:04

want who cares about these people to have

1:16:06

the audio of like I want Paul Marantz's

1:16:09

legs to get cut off like that was

1:16:11

powerful and you there's footage of like Connie

1:16:13

Chung was really on the case um and

1:16:15

in a lot of this footage like feverishly

1:16:17

writing it down because they couldn't get sued

1:16:19

for libel for reporting a tape was played

1:16:21

that said this essentially it was just a

1:16:23

way to Paul Marantz was just giving facts

1:16:25

baby yeah yeah he was given him ammunition

1:16:29

by then Chuck had been drinking vodka daily beginning in

1:16:31

early 1977 when Betty was first diagnosed with lung cancer

1:16:33

he had moved with his new wife Jenny to properties

1:16:36

the group owned in Lake Havasu, Arizona

1:16:43

there he remained in a psychotic alcohol-induced

1:16:45

stupor sometimes unconscious other times having

1:16:47

conversations with his dead brother by the pool Chuck

1:16:50

Diedrick was arrested on December

1:16:53

2nd 1978 charged with conspiracy and solicitation to commit murder

1:16:58

and assault with a deadly weapon he

1:17:00

was barely conscious in the early hearings

1:17:02

sometimes audibly snoring this led

1:17:04

a judge to declare him temporarily incompetent due

1:17:07

to alcohol abuse Musico,

1:17:09

Kenton, and Chuck all pleaded no contest Musico

1:17:12

and Kenton spent a year in the

1:17:14

LA county Chuck

1:17:16

meanwhile received only probation because his doctors

1:17:19

claimed that due to ill health he would most

1:17:22

likely die in prison as a condition of

1:17:24

probation he was disallowed from taking part in

1:17:28

managing synodon he stepped down in name

1:17:30

but continued running things behind the

1:17:33

scenes as his daughter Jadie took over

1:17:35

as chairman here's maybe I don't want this is

1:17:37

a hot take but I'm

1:17:45

gonna say it who gives a fuck if he's ill health yeah

1:17:47

yeah yeah so die in prison like I

1:17:50

mean if if you did all of these things like why

1:17:52

do you get to now not suffer the consequences Of

1:17:55

your actions because. And

1:18:00

why are you ill? because of all

1:18:02

the things you've done to yourself? Yes,

1:18:04

so it's your own doing. Yeah, ah

1:18:06

ah. Maybe. I'm a heartless monster.

1:18:09

But like and all of the things

1:18:11

he said, I'm like. Okay, so

1:18:13

you're in ill health, so are a

1:18:15

lot of people imprisoned. Nice. So did

1:18:17

the crime. He says I do the

1:18:19

time. Yeah, no, I agree. I

1:18:21

thought this is a really light sentence on all

1:18:23

three of them. Pomeranz as like you know I

1:18:26

kind and or said that the I'm glad that

1:18:28

they got some jail time, but the judge that

1:18:30

well you certainly know the reasoning for why they

1:18:32

put that snake in your mailbox. Maybe it was

1:18:34

just to scare you. And Pomeranz is like if

1:18:37

it was scary they would have left the rattle

1:18:39

on. Also who cares

1:18:41

if it was just to scare you give

1:18:43

you plenty of than likely Snake in Somebody

1:18:45

is home best trespassing is as a deadly

1:18:47

weapon see and it bit him and nearly

1:18:49

killed him. So as who gives a shit

1:18:52

with the reasoning was yeah I mean the

1:18:54

desert kinda like well you know there's another

1:18:56

I'm like well I think there's plenty here.

1:18:58

I don't agree with the Chuck getting off

1:19:00

as wide as he did, especially given his

1:19:02

ill health. Spoiler. Alert he

1:19:04

didn't die within. How for me months of probation

1:19:06

he would have gotten. So it's like to me

1:19:09

said have had time in jail. The items are

1:19:11

what he's done and this is only the tip.

1:19:13

Of. The iceberg of all that you know the this. Snakebite,

1:19:16

was the most the laces of other things

1:19:18

he does such as the task force that

1:19:20

have moved in on them I think it

1:19:22

started to become but if point the as

1:19:24

the I started exchanging memos like we should

1:19:26

be his estate Task force. Called the feds and

1:19:29

are like there's a lot of suffered taxes and

1:19:31

like money and wiring. Incest and that be

1:19:33

like eyes of the Sacramento F B I

1:19:35

office starts looking into it so while I

1:19:37

do things suck. Absolutely said. have gone to

1:19:39

jail more and maybe that was part of

1:19:41

it of like a while. He's on

1:19:43

and he'll probably go down for something else,

1:19:46

which shouldn't be a consideration for just how

1:19:48

they should punish you for the thing you

1:19:50

did it did for jam. Yes, it's kind

1:19:52

of this more of him getting off scot

1:19:54

free and not having to. Pay.

1:19:56

any restitutions for all the damages

1:19:58

caused That

1:20:01

next year, in 1979, the tiny

1:20:04

local news organization The Point

1:20:06

Reyes Light became the smallest

1:20:08

newspaper to ever win a Pulitzer Prize

1:20:10

for its relentless reporting on the group.

1:20:13

And truly, it was between The Point

1:20:16

Reyes Light, Paul Marantz, and the journalists

1:20:18

that worked with him that were willing

1:20:20

to do actual journalism and look into

1:20:22

things versus taking Chuck's word. Because up

1:20:24

until Time Magazine and these other outlets

1:20:27

that came out with negative stuff, it was

1:20:29

like they just would print whatever Chuck said

1:20:32

and he was lying a lot. Including

1:20:35

between the time after he gets

1:20:37

kind of let go for the rattlesnake, him

1:20:40

and Jadie and his son and

1:20:42

a bunch of the board members all

1:20:44

went to Italy and spent like months

1:20:46

and months in Italy drinking a ton.

1:20:48

He's like, we're drinking, we're eating good

1:20:50

food. What's the matter with all that?

1:20:52

We're having a good time. There's

1:20:55

just footage of him like chilling in

1:20:57

Italy, having a great time. They even

1:20:59

wrote a synod on song about the

1:21:01

city in Italy where they were at.

1:21:03

So even though at this point, I

1:21:05

think now only the most stringent

1:21:08

like supporters that have no grip on reality.

1:21:11

Die hards or less

1:21:13

because Chuck making

1:21:15

a video, he made

1:21:18

a wire speech about how, I'm

1:21:20

really sorry, but his wife, Ginny, he said,

1:21:22

quote, her nut hole

1:21:25

wouldn't open up. Yeah,

1:21:33

yeah, this is why you have to watch it on

1:21:35

YouTube because Christie is just crumbled into her own hands.

1:21:38

Yeah, he said her nut hole

1:21:40

wouldn't open up and did not open up

1:21:43

for 13 by God months. But

1:21:45

when they went to Italy and

1:21:47

got drunk, then all of a

1:21:50

sudden, that's when it. Oh,

1:21:56

I don't think I've ever, Ever

1:21:59

heard somebody call me. Howard that one hand

1:22:01

and lenses early. I don't think disease and

1:22:03

saying it in a. Funny.

1:22:05

Way I know he probably just were to

1:22:08

it as as yet it's is yeah scientific

1:22:10

name for it. It's like when Lbj talks

1:22:12

about his been whole and those old tapes

1:22:14

knees like yeah neither my license fallen out

1:22:16

and months to turn around the been whole

1:22:19

he's like well are not all would know

1:22:21

been of and then we went to Italy

1:22:23

knows likes saves any I won or to

1:22:25

be rescued don't deserve to have an hour

1:22:27

the hurting her body was. Physically.

1:22:30

Like not allowing a because Aids

1:22:32

is see new. Is knew she didn't

1:22:34

want us to happen in her body was like

1:22:36

settle down society nightmare. but the sir I had

1:22:38

to know that phrase to know you. Guys all

1:22:41

due to sorry thank. You, but this is a burden we

1:22:43

share together. A. Suspicious.

1:22:46

Of Sin and on. After the litany of

1:22:49

bad press and losses, the I Rs began

1:22:51

looking into it's tax exempt status. The government

1:22:53

higher none other than Pomeranz to act as

1:22:55

a consultant as he had gained a wealth

1:22:58

of knowledge. About sat in the group through

1:23:00

litigation by then. In. May

1:23:02

of Nineteen Eighty Two, the

1:23:04

Iris officially revoked synonyms tax

1:23:06

exempt status retroactively back to

1:23:08

Nineteen Seventy Seven. This.

1:23:11

Meant that the group owe taxes i'm

1:23:13

all income during most of it's supposed

1:23:15

church days for a total of seventeen

1:23:18

million dollars. Those. And

1:23:20

a non appealed. The last was affirmed. By

1:23:22

an appellate court and Nineteen Eighty Four and

1:23:24

the group was ordered to pay up. Yeah,

1:23:27

they were still going during these times and there's

1:23:29

that it to them still trying to have games

1:23:31

that the people that were still there said it

1:23:34

kind of turned into this like weird spectator sport

1:23:36

where they were obese, multi camera set up. With.

1:23:38

Live producer switching between footage and people watching it

1:23:40

on Tv and in such good time and via

1:23:43

a voice box that people can talk back to

1:23:45

the box selects people would be in the middle

1:23:47

of the game and the you just like buzz

1:23:49

in a be like careful not to say that

1:23:52

is a and and they were just like let

1:23:54

us continue his the box so it has just

1:23:56

begun hasn't word a mass their this kind of

1:23:58

like we're the internet in a this has to

1:24:01

start kind of like. Selling all their properties

1:24:03

off. And. It just becomes like this kind

1:24:05

of sad thing that Jd is kind. Of like

1:24:07

running but she wasn't really remy check with still

1:24:09

running it but. Drunkenly constantly

1:24:11

elder. With.

1:24:14

Such huge financial hits senate on

1:24:16

could not continue. The Marine

1:24:18

County property was dismantled in March Nineteen

1:24:20

Eighty Three. The. Legal troubles continued

1:24:23

for the leaders of cinema, including

1:24:25

such two adult children. And

1:24:27

October of Nineteen Eighty Three, a

1:24:29

D C Superior court judge officially

1:24:31

found that sin and on destroyed

1:24:33

documents and tapes were leading to

1:24:35

the rattlesnake attacks. on this lawsuit

1:24:37

against the San Francisco Examiner. Among.

1:24:40

Other incriminating acts. The.

1:24:42

Group civil case the one that caused

1:24:44

the discovery in the first place was

1:24:46

dismissed. The. Board came under

1:24:48

criminal investigation related to the destruction

1:24:51

of evidence. Finally,

1:24:53

And Nineteen Eighty Three. Thirteen.

1:24:55

Cinema leaders were indicted on

1:24:57

federal charges for the leading

1:25:00

incriminating tapes sars with conspiracy.

1:25:02

Concealment of material Fox. Seats

1:25:04

in a Princess Anne perjury. Defendants.

1:25:07

Included such daughter, son and I'm

1:25:09

President less the Psaki and one

1:25:12

of it's top lawyers Dan Gareth

1:25:14

Anson a non Loyalists Miriam and

1:25:16

Silver Death among others. They.

1:25:18

Were also charged in L A County. Court as

1:25:20

part of the cover up. Suck.

1:25:22

His two children and the other. Elders

1:25:25

were also charged with violations of

1:25:27

security laws in Arizona. None.

1:25:29

Of them served jail time for their

1:25:31

transgressions. As

1:25:34

is that has so many the

1:25:36

snake. It's gone on that I wonder

1:25:38

if the organise like the government's to say.

1:25:40

Well. Probation. Here for

1:25:42

basin they are not realizing like it's

1:25:45

different jurisdictions as should all be managed

1:25:47

to the ideas as how the have

1:25:49

all this information, evidence and nobody's going

1:25:52

to jail especially chat yeah that's what

1:25:54

I never got. Is it sucked with

1:25:56

was able to never really be a

1:25:58

separate back in. The Santa

1:26:00

Monica The Original Data. Yes,

1:26:02

Yes, yes, and or yeah,

1:26:04

it's it's. These.

1:26:08

People. Got. Away

1:26:10

with so much for so

1:26:12

long and so many people

1:26:14

that needed help. Just. Were

1:26:16

failed by thomas agencies this

1:26:18

area kids. Are. We're. Facing.

1:26:22

Financial collapse dwindling membership.

1:26:25

And numerous legal convictions against

1:26:27

members for violent crimes. Send

1:26:29

and On Officially disbanded. In Nineteen

1:26:31

Ninety One. Six. Years later

1:26:33

the man who sounded at all died at

1:26:35

the. Age of eighty three. After

1:26:37

a series of strokes, succeed or

1:26:40

died on February. Twenty. Eight Nineteen

1:26:42

Ninety Seven. Cause of death

1:26:44

was listed as cardio. Respiratory failure,

1:26:47

As a reminder. And nineteen Seventy eight, he was

1:26:49

too thick to go to jail because he might

1:26:51

die in there for five years. Elite lives in

1:26:53

full ninety seven. So yeah, Fuck that. He

1:26:55

did did the mensa really bad news. Old his

1:26:57

later years he said he didn't really

1:26:59

recognize anybody and him and in he

1:27:02

just moved to a trailer park outside

1:27:04

of where the the old facilities are

1:27:06

down and a failure and Cena like

1:27:08

say. That in the nothing. Other

1:27:12

than and on Closed Source and Ninety

1:27:15

Ninety One, the concept of tough Love

1:27:17

being the best course of treatment for

1:27:19

troubled. Teens had been introduced in would

1:27:21

soon take on a horrific life of

1:27:23

it's own. Sets most

1:27:26

lasting legacy is the enforcement

1:27:28

continuation as Sin and Aunts

1:27:30

practices. Starting. Well before

1:27:32

any rattlesnakes made their way to

1:27:34

mailboxes groups across the country copied.

1:27:37

The cinema model. Even.

1:27:39

After check in, his group were

1:27:41

convicted, disgraced and bankrupt. Dangerous camps

1:27:43

across the troubled teen industry had

1:27:46

sprung up using Send a Non

1:27:48

practices. Attack

1:27:50

Therapy is so practice today

1:27:52

in places that call themselves

1:27:54

Emotional Growth Boarding Schools. See.

1:27:57

Edu the controversial school at.

1:28:00

The focus of NBC's podcast, The

1:28:02

Lost Kids, was founded by former

1:28:04

members of Synanon. Schools

1:28:06

like The Seed applied Synanon methods to teenagers

1:28:09

in Florida for nearly 30 years. This

1:28:12

month, Troubled Teen Industry alum and

1:28:15

outspoken advocate, Paris Hilton, issued a

1:28:17

warning. To any parent considering

1:28:19

placing your child in the Troubled Teen

1:28:21

Industry, please do your research. It

1:28:24

has been proven that this industry has

1:28:26

significant deceptive marketing that aims to capture

1:28:28

your attention in your most vulnerable state.

1:28:31

These facilities will also label your

1:28:33

children as liars and manipulators and

1:28:35

prevent confidential communication with them. My

1:28:38

biggest recommendation is to trust what

1:28:40

your child says. Instead of taking

1:28:42

the side of these oftentimes corrupt facility

1:28:44

owners you have never met, running

1:28:47

facilities you have never been to. Surely

1:28:51

this is just heinous and I

1:28:54

mean, it's

1:28:56

no surprise

1:28:58

to anybody these Troubled Teen Industry

1:29:00

camps are just horrible. The program

1:29:02

on Netflix right now has a series on

1:29:04

them. And what's so

1:29:07

wild but also speaks to the

1:29:10

long-term damage and hole that it

1:29:12

has on you is

1:29:15

one of the kids that grew up in

1:29:17

Synanon later went on to form his own

1:29:19

camp for teens and hired

1:29:22

former Synanon members and people to

1:29:24

run it. Some

1:29:27

people were just so corrupted and brainwashed

1:29:29

that it just led to them doing

1:29:31

the same to others and even if

1:29:33

those people didn't open their own places,

1:29:36

others sure glommed on to the

1:29:39

Synanon way of doing things and

1:29:41

really just these

1:29:43

poor kids. The Troubled Teen Industry

1:29:45

is one

1:29:47

of the most upsetting

1:29:49

things that still just goes

1:29:52

on in plain sight. Yeah,

1:29:54

thank God for Para-Silton and groups that

1:29:56

she works with To really And she

1:29:58

made those statements at a. Give

1:30:01

it a press conference is you boys estate from a

1:30:03

place and in fact had said call Paris Hilton and

1:30:06

she said I'll be there and she flew there for

1:30:08

on her own dime. You know in the middle of

1:30:10

the week this was like I will be there and

1:30:12

she's like. If kids need me, tell me

1:30:14

and I will show up because ah, you're right,

1:30:16

that Mother Jones article which we have linked in

1:30:18

the sauna kind of talks about the. Genealogy.

1:30:22

As the troubled teen industry and blitt the The Granddaddy

1:30:24

a sin and on like it all branches out a

1:30:26

sin and on and of what's Branstad of branch celebrants

1:30:29

out us but still when he trace it back it's

1:30:31

and and on the Nes I might we might put

1:30:33

that. On our social media, as part of

1:30:35

our carousel flies, C. C., just the branching

1:30:37

tree and how it all just goes back

1:30:39

to talk and send it. Law.

1:30:41

And he would have never been

1:30:43

able to know that know what

1:30:46

would happen then Ma'am. It's

1:30:48

so. Diabolical. How

1:30:50

to secede from one man's

1:30:53

brain? Had lead to something

1:30:55

that decades later his cell such a

1:30:57

horrific industry that hurts and Maidenform for

1:30:59

money makes tons of money and

1:31:01

are to settle many people. Yeah.

1:31:06

Sister Home. Be right back. Something

1:31:10

he was is no the best way for you is

1:31:12

V based. On look for with all. These

1:31:15

on the driver's seat. the highway like a

1:31:17

race track and so the like a passing

1:31:19

lane. Why? theory based

1:31:22

on anyone else? Didn't want us

1:31:24

to drive well from awful. Not

1:31:26

a little less her Californians have to determine the distance.

1:31:28

Rates are determined by several factors with their the Thing

1:31:31

insensate criticism by some other cities or died and for

1:31:33

purposes of eating well as of sensory could increase with

1:31:35

i was driving Certainly safer diverse to say but I

1:31:37

was unsafe and has interns. Covered in Philly from Illinois.

1:31:41

X. Members have been outspoken and

1:31:43

processing their time. That. The controversial group.

1:31:46

And. Twenty Twenty. The lead singer of the rock

1:31:48

band. The airborne toxic event

1:31:50

miquel Delay release. Hollywood

1:31:53

Part a memoir of his childhood

1:31:55

growing up and escaping from sending

1:31:57

on. The. Paramount Plus

1:31:59

Series. In Finance debuted and

1:32:01

Twenty Twenty. Three and follows another

1:32:03

child of the called Cassidy Arkin on

1:32:05

her journey to discover the truth about

1:32:08

the group. Max's.

1:32:10

The Cinema Fix released and twenty. Twenty

1:32:12

Four. Features. On camera

1:32:14

interviews with many insiders including

1:32:17

Shuts daughter. Jd and one of

1:32:19

the man who allegedly plus rattlesnake

1:32:21

in the mailbox. My Aunt's kenton. And

1:32:24

Two Thousand and Four Vassar Crete Development

1:32:26

Purchase the seventy one acre. Property formerly

1:32:29

owned by son and on. Under

1:32:31

the new owners Play and Sybil the

1:32:33

Sequoia. Resort. Were drawn. Utilizing.

1:32:36

The former dormitories. The House Sixty

1:32:38

Seven Vacation. Rental units. The resort

1:32:40

would also have a community building

1:32:42

and swimming pool. Or

1:32:45

that shuts again. The group was

1:32:47

seemingly noble intentions. fights in sin

1:32:49

and on became a source of

1:32:51

abuse. Violence and pain for

1:32:53

the many lives that impacted. Some

1:32:56

former members who join to escape addiction

1:32:58

still maintain that without sin and on

1:33:00

they would have died. However,

1:33:02

Such decades of abuse and his legacy.

1:33:05

Of Destruction with the troubled teen

1:33:07

industry complicate with some call their

1:33:09

Salvation. Early adopter Might

1:33:12

Gimbel to successfully remained clean from

1:33:14

heroin after joining the group in

1:33:16

It's Early days. Summed it up

1:33:18

on the sun and on. Fix.

1:33:20

There's. No doubt my mind that I'd be dead if

1:33:22

I didn't go to send a non san on

1:33:24

save my life. But. At the same time.

1:33:27

Skirted. Up to. So.

1:33:30

What do we think? Well.

1:33:33

It is. It's no surprise it

1:33:35

later on once Sat diet arrested

1:33:38

and finally was able to be.

1:33:40

Analyzed by a court appointed, you know the

1:33:42

judge was like why is this guy passed

1:33:45

down in my courtroom and they figured out

1:33:47

that he was formally diagnosed. With bipolar disorder

1:33:49

which it seem like Jd really got

1:33:51

some comfort. his daughter got some comfort

1:33:53

out of that to see said on

1:33:55

the senate on Fix. you know. He

1:33:58

was suffering his whole life in a way that. It

1:34:00

really defined understood he was self medicating and

1:34:02

she said now that I know the size

1:34:04

of bipolar essentially she likes it completely fit

1:34:06

at the cycles like he would change his

1:34:08

mind about south and he would need to

1:34:10

move he would constantly move where home place

1:34:13

was that he was really restless he would

1:34:15

seem thing since rules and stuff so of

1:34:17

will give her credit that see wasn't saying

1:34:19

like we didn't really do anything wrong seats

1:34:21

even says and it like. I.

1:34:23

Didn't know what was happening with the kids that on

1:34:25

paper it said I was in charge of the school

1:34:27

and she said. On the one hand

1:34:29

I wish I would have known but she said I

1:34:31

have grapple with the fact that what if I did

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now and. I. Probably wouldn't have done anything

1:34:36

about it, and I ride a lot of

1:34:38

respect for that. She did not retroactively cast herself

1:34:40

as. Some like would have been hero because

1:34:42

he can. I think she could see that

1:34:44

Jay was just as much kind. Of under

1:34:46

every some and it's a question of when are you

1:34:49

a victim versus a perpetrator. But he or

1:34:51

she fully participated in the senate on six

1:34:53

month. I was lucky. I think it's you.

1:34:55

Cla has like an oral history project where

1:34:57

they've done sit down interviews with like Chuck

1:34:59

Jr and like other members and see had

1:35:01

donated a lot of recordings to that. So

1:35:03

it seems like she's really opens with trying

1:35:05

to get the truth out and not trying

1:35:08

to sugar coating golf. I didn't do anything

1:35:10

wrong she was like oh yeah we're getting

1:35:12

drunk is terrible because I think you see

1:35:14

and footage Susan yelled at to it wasn't

1:35:16

like she was doing the yelling see I'm

1:35:18

sure she also did yelling site. There's plenty

1:35:20

of footage of him just yelling at, but it

1:35:23

was weird to me the amount of people to

1:35:25

to this day. Whoa. Like love Chuck's

1:35:27

like they love him. They cry with a

1:35:29

half about him. He was a dad. They

1:35:31

miss him. Yeah. There's

1:35:33

quite a bit a cognitive dissonance. Between.

1:35:37

While. He saves me and so I'm

1:35:39

gonna current as look the other way

1:35:41

about. These. Other things that

1:35:43

he dead or you justify it like

1:35:45

well you know that was that tough

1:35:47

love and that's what to me. So

1:35:49

I get it. other people needed it's

1:35:52

and aspirins shady and. Such.

1:35:54

Junior. I mean. Even

1:35:57

as adults, they're still his kids. You

1:35:59

know? The mean: you

1:36:01

guys? Multilayers? As abuse

1:36:04

sing control and power imbalance.

1:36:06

Going on with Asshole Dynamics,

1:36:08

I agree that. It.

1:36:11

Was. Admirable that

1:36:13

she didn't pass herself as a hero. and

1:36:15

possessing see has enough self awareness to be

1:36:17

like I wouldn't have done anything and have

1:36:19

known I couldn't have done anything I wouldn't

1:36:22

Oh, and if I tried, I would have.

1:36:25

Maybe. Been killed or Blake's one it

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or on out at the very I'm