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Mr. Food. I'm

1:03

gonna

1:06

kill you. Well hello

1:08

and welcome to another edition of Freaky

1:10

Friday. It is Friday, June 26th and

1:12

we're here to tell you're son of

1:14

a bitch. For

1:18

I think we should just tell everyone what's been

1:20

happening for the past 20 minutes. Because

1:23

that is technically the son of a

1:25

bitch is warranted. This

1:28

is like the fourth time we tried to

1:30

start. We had software glitches. I even had

1:32

a great new intro because I've tried three

1:34

different intros now. But since this is the

1:36

fourth time. But I will say because we

1:39

thank you to everybody who's been watching our

1:41

stuff on YouTube. We really appreciate it meeting

1:43

you over there for streams and stuff. And

1:45

it's cool because YouTube pushes you to people

1:47

who have never seen you before. And

1:49

then you get YouTube comments and we

1:51

got one today. Oh no, don't tell me. Is it

1:53

Christy looks like a ghoul? Not at

1:55

all. You're a beautiful phenomenal person. And if

1:57

anyone said that I would find out where they lived and I would.

2:00

Well, that's very sweet. But sometimes I

2:02

watch them back and I'm like, I

2:04

could have thrown on some mascara. So.

2:06

No, no. You could just tell where

2:08

like, I'm so white without makeup that

2:10

you can't tell where things end and

2:12

begin. You

2:14

know? That's not what

2:17

this person was concerned about. This person was

2:19

concerned about Sir Garth or Brooks, the

2:21

gargoyle statue above my head. She

2:24

wrote, or they wrote, what in

2:26

the world is that ghoulish statue

2:28

with wings? Satan, question mark. Satan?

2:31

Satan? Satan? I don't

2:33

normally read the comments, but it was about

2:36

Sir Garth or Brooks. So I just wanted

2:38

to share that. It's not Satan. If you

2:40

watch us on YouTube, he is a garden

2:42

gargoyle that we purchased because of

2:45

Freaky Friday. So I thought it was appropriate to

2:47

address that comment here on Freaky Friday, which was

2:49

Sir Garth's origin story. I was like, I swear,

2:51

I'll buy that statue right now. I thought it

2:53

was a live stream. It was Freaky Friday. Freaky

2:56

Friday is where we got the idea, and then we

2:58

bought it, and we, I. I

3:03

feel like I'm his stepmom. He

3:05

doesn't live with me, though. He's another step-ful

3:07

parent. Yeah, that's great. But

3:09

then on a live stream, I wanted

3:12

to, you were on your way over

3:14

here, and I was like, I'm going to come bring this

3:16

gargoyle in and surprise her once you walk in. So

3:19

I took it off the porch and brought it inside.

3:21

So it is not Satan. Yeah, no, he needs to be

3:23

seen all the time, not just if you're going

3:26

to your front door. From a

3:28

perspective of a stranger, it

3:31

does look like Satan. So she's not wrong. No,

3:33

it does. It's not an out-of-pocket question. No, it

3:36

could be Satan. No comment

3:38

about the fuck-mouth moon beside it? No, she

3:40

was like, well, obviously, you're going to have

3:42

a sexual moon. That makes sense. But is

3:44

that the devil next to you? It's not.

3:47

He's, by the way, royalty. Sir Garth or Brooks,

3:49

he's been knighted by us. I

3:53

just wanted to address that here at the top.

3:55

It is a gargoyle, not the devil. That's

3:59

what we do here. on Friggy Friday is

4:01

tell your odd but true stories and

4:03

no gargoyles today, but it does run

4:05

the gamut from very serious brushes with

4:07

true crime all the

4:09

way to a Bigfoot mention. Yeah, and then

4:12

a crime we've

4:14

probably all experienced at

4:16

the end. Yes, yes, yes,

4:18

a very relatable one to

4:20

take us out in the bubble part of

4:23

our haunted house. Yes, of

4:25

our bubble pit, our bubble farm pit. Of our bubble

4:27

pit. Well, we kept saying we need a bubble pit

4:29

because it's hot as hell here and it's probably hot

4:31

as hell wherever y'all are listening from, I guess, unless

4:34

you're in Australia, in which case take me with you.

4:36

But to get out of that, we're gonna just leave

4:38

town. I'm leaving town in a couple weeks, I'm outta

4:40

here. Can I come? Yes, you

4:42

can come with me. Thank you. I'm going to

4:44

Cincinnati. Okay. So, in that we're in 30 Rock,

4:48

everybody wants to go, everybody wants to

4:50

go. It was Cleveland. Cleveland, okay. Which

4:53

we're going to after Cincinnati. So, meet

4:55

me in Cincinnati. Then meet me in

4:57

Cleveland. And then we're going

4:59

straight on to Toronto. If you wonder where we're

5:01

going and why we're going there, it's to escape

5:03

this hellhole that we live in called Texas, but

5:06

also to bring our full moon energy touring show

5:08

to you, wonderful

5:10

people of Ohio and Canada. So, single town

5:12

in Canada, but we're going there. It's a

5:15

big one. It's one of my favorite cities

5:17

that I've ever visited though. So, I'm so

5:19

excited to go back. I haven't been back

5:21

since our last tour, which

5:24

was a totally different show. This show

5:26

is brand. I mean, you may have seen it last

5:29

year when we toured it. However, we've edited and

5:31

added a lot of stuff. So, I

5:33

would say a good 30% of it is new stuff. So,

5:38

even if you saw it last year,

5:40

come back out because it's

5:42

always such a fun time. And it's

5:44

everything you love about the podcast, but

5:47

centered around the moon. We

5:49

talk about cryptids, creepy

5:52

stuff, lore, what

5:55

really happened up there with the

5:57

Apollo astronauts, the

5:59

how some people... don't even think we ever

6:01

really landed on the moon. So it's a good

6:03

time. What's inside of it?

6:05

We'll tell you. And if you hit it, does

6:07

it ring? I'll just tell you, it's cheese. Cheese

6:10

and chocolate. Yeah, it's like a truffly

6:12

center with also. Yeah, and we moved there. That's

6:15

a very deep cut joke that

6:18

some people will get and be like, that was

6:20

a good joke. And other people are like, what?

6:22

Although that album was called, I believe, Chocolate and

6:24

Cheese. But nonetheless, we

6:26

are here. We're

6:28

going to be there. We're going to be there talking to

6:30

you about the moon. If you want to know more, go

6:32

to sinisterhead.com/live shows. But you're not here to talk about us

6:35

on the road, although please come see us because we want to

6:37

see you. We want to tell your

6:39

odd but true stories that you have also

6:41

painstakingly written out and taken the time to

6:43

send to us today. So thanks for doing

6:45

that. Thank you so much. Well,

6:47

I'm Christy. I'm Heather. And

6:49

let's get freaky. This

6:52

first one is a heavy hitter.

6:54

There's a content warning of familicide

6:56

and attempted suicide. This

6:58

is from your daughter. Hello,

7:01

anonymous. And the subject

7:03

line is, my mom took

7:05

AP classes with a family annihilator.

7:09

Anonymous writes, hey, Heather

7:11

and Christy, I hope you guys are doing

7:13

well. My mom and I love your podcast.

7:15

And we can't wait to see you again

7:18

in San Diego in September. I

7:20

could go on and on about how

7:22

funny, insightful, and soothing we find your

7:24

guys' conversations. But that would take forever.

7:27

So without further ado, let's get into it.

7:30

My mom went to high school in Kenmore, New

7:32

York, a white picket fence town in Buffalo.

7:35

I love visiting there because it's safe

7:37

and peaceful. Everything there is just so

7:40

safe and normal, or at

7:42

least it seems to be. It's

7:44

the kind of place where nothing bad ever

7:46

seems to happen. We've all heard that one

7:48

before, right? Now despite

7:51

our mutual love of true crime, my

7:53

mom neglected to tell me this story

7:55

until recently. Somehow she'd

7:57

just forgotten to ever bring it up.

7:59

up. One day as we

8:02

were visiting my grandparents and walking by her

8:04

old high school of Kenmore West she said

8:06

to me, did I ever tell

8:08

you about John Justice? Uh,

8:11

no. I said. I thought

8:13

she was going to tell me about some comic

8:16

book character or something. I mean with a name

8:18

like John Justice that's what she would imagine, right?

8:21

Well then my mom said, he was a guy

8:23

I went to high school with who killed his

8:25

whole family. Do the

8:28

record scratch. What? Uh,

8:30

no. I screeched. My

8:33

mom then began to tell me her

8:35

story and it's one that most definitely

8:37

qualifies as a brush with true crime.

8:41

In 1985, my mom's senior year of

8:43

high school, one of her fellow classmates

8:45

was a boy named John Justice. Since

8:48

Kenmore is small, the same group of smart

8:50

kids were in the same AP classes since

8:53

freshman year. My mom and John

8:55

Justice were two of those smart seniors. They

8:57

had sat near each other in their AP classes

8:59

for the past four years. On

9:02

September 16th, John walked

9:04

home after school and brutally murdered

9:06

all three of his immediate family

9:09

members. He stabbed his mother,

9:11

his father, and his younger brother. He

9:13

was only 13 years old to death.

9:16

Afterwards, when his suicide attempt failed, he

9:19

got into his parents car and fled

9:21

the scene. Devastatingly, John's

9:23

crime was only discovered after he

9:25

got into a fatal car crash

9:27

while driving away from his house.

9:30

The crash claimed the life of one of

9:32

John's neighbors who was only 22 years old

9:34

at the time. This brought

9:36

the total number of lives stolen by

9:38

John that day to four. John

9:41

survived the crash and stood trial for

9:43

the murders in 1986. He was found

9:45

not guilty by reason of insanity for

9:47

the murders of his father and his

9:49

brother and guilty of manslaughter for

9:52

the murders of his mother and his neighbor.

9:55

John was released from prison in 2005 on parole,

9:57

but quickly re-arrested to

10:00

his quote, erratic and disturbing

10:02

behavior. He has been

10:04

denied parole ever since and has been

10:07

deemed quote, mentally unfit for release. Back

10:10

in 1986 though, my mom

10:12

was her high school's yearbook editor. She

10:15

remembers going through the senior classes yearbook

10:17

photos and having to decide whether or

10:20

not to include John's picture in the

10:22

yearbook. She didn't. Thankfully

10:24

justice was served in this case. I

10:26

had to make the pun, sorry. Though

10:29

the pain John caused can never be

10:31

healed, his incarceration prevents anyone else from

10:33

being harmed by his actions. I

10:36

hope my mom's brush with true crime was an

10:38

interesting read for you, whether or not you read

10:40

it on an episode. Thank you so

10:42

much for reading and we'll see you in September. Keep

10:45

it creepy. Well,

10:48

anonymous, this article is

10:50

from 1985, talking

10:53

about the incident and it's

10:55

something like that, especially when like

10:58

anonymous's mom was going

11:00

to school with him to know that he just left school

11:02

one day and that was the day did. And

11:04

the article had said he had been planning it for a long

11:06

time and that seemed like it was

11:08

centered around their mocking of his college

11:11

dreams is what he said. Yes, the

11:13

article says quote, his parents

11:15

were quote, constantly put him down

11:17

for wanting a college education. He'd

11:20

been thinking of killing them for two

11:22

years according to a detective on the

11:24

case. So I guess

11:27

one day he just finally

11:29

snapped. That's, it's

11:32

awful. I would be curious to

11:34

know why he received manslaughter

11:39

for two of the murders and then first

11:42

degree for the other ones. What would

11:44

be the difference in those? Some

11:48

states depending manslaughter can

11:50

be like heat of passion, you

11:52

can argue it's voluntary versus involuntary.

11:56

The grades of murder and stuff vary and they may

11:58

have changed since the 80s as well. but

12:01

it also is interesting that if he

12:03

was found in GBRIs, we

12:05

call it not guilty by reason of insanity that

12:07

he would ever have been paroled if

12:10

immediately he was having erratic and disturbing

12:13

behavior. That doesn't seem like he should have been

12:15

let out. Normally when that happens, somebody is assessed

12:18

once a year every year and they say, oh yes,

12:20

you're a danger. You're not still a danger, but I'm

12:23

glad that he has been denied parole. If,

12:25

you know, the first time he was out,

12:27

he was showing that and if they are

12:29

still evaluating him every year, it sounds like

12:31

they're keeping tabs on it, but it's a

12:33

curious thing to have that be the explanation.

12:35

It seems sort of simplistic and that's what

12:37

he said, but if he was found not

12:39

guilty by reason of insanity, I imagine there's

12:41

a lot more factors at play. Yes,

12:44

I'm rereading it now and I misspoke. He

12:46

was found not guilty by reason of insanity

12:48

for the murders of his father and his

12:50

brother, the guilty of

12:52

manslaughter for his mother

12:54

and his neighbor. Yeah, the

12:57

neighbor manslaughter is pretty cut and dry,

13:00

but I imagine for the mom,

13:02

if there's an argument of, oh, you know, she

13:04

said something, like you said, you just snapped, that's

13:06

often the argument you try to use is,

13:08

oh, you know, I didn't know what I was doing. More

13:11

often it's used of, I walked in on my

13:14

spouse cheating on me or I walked in on

13:16

someone attacking my family member, my kid or something,

13:19

but it sounds like it

13:21

was successful in this case, but that is an

13:23

eerie thing for your mom and we don't often

13:25

think about that afterwards of something

13:27

a simple thing, like we don't wanna put him in the

13:29

yearbook, right? You know, this is- Yeah,

13:33

that's a hard call to make. One that

13:36

I think shouldn't have fallen to your mom. She

13:38

shouldn't have had to make that decision as a

13:40

senior in high school. Somebody else could have, the

13:43

principal or something perhaps, but that

13:46

is, it's that

13:48

trickle of trauma that like even kids in

13:51

his class to, you know, I'm sure he

13:53

had friends at school and

13:55

then like how it affects you going forward

13:58

to know that for four years, been

14:00

in this guy's classes and then

14:03

one day he just snapped. It

14:05

seems, and I'm surprised like you said,

14:07

that he got parole because the investigation showed

14:09

he'd been planning this for two years. So

14:12

I would think that that

14:14

would have been off the table for a while. Yeah,

14:17

it sounds like they

14:19

changed their tune there pretty quickly and I'm glad

14:21

that they did so before he hurt anybody else.

14:23

Yeah. Well, thank

14:25

you so much, Anonymous, for sending that in. Sinisterhood

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behalf of Leb's uncle and the

17:14

subject line is, carjacking, kidnapping, drunk

17:17

guy, situation. Hello

17:19

ladies, here's a story I dragged out of

17:21

my uncle. So a few

17:23

weeks ago, I was driving east about 10

17:25

miles past Pagosa Springs, Colorado, when I saw

17:28

a huge cloud of dust and then a

17:30

car rolling across the highway a couple hundred

17:32

yards in front of me. The

17:34

car went off the shoulder and back onto

17:37

the road again, going sideways and immediately rolled

17:39

three times into the ditch on my side

17:41

of the road. The car

17:43

was upside down, four wheels up. I

17:47

immediately pulled off the road, hit the emergency

17:49

flashers and called 911 to report the

17:52

accident. Incredulously, a man

17:54

climbed out of the overturned

17:56

vehicle and jumped into my

17:58

passenger seat. I said I

18:00

had 911 on the line and asked if he wanted to

18:02

talk to them. But he grabbed

18:04

my phone, ended the call, swung

18:07

his arm square across my chest, and

18:09

said, just drive or I'll break your

18:11

neck. Assessing my

18:13

situation, I asked him where he wanted to go.

18:16

At that point, he just wanted me to drive faster

18:18

and kept telling me to pass the cars and trucks

18:21

ahead of us. I

18:23

started to make small talk at first, hoping

18:25

he'd calm down. Are you hurt? I

18:28

asked him, where do you want to go? It

18:30

was obvious he had been drinking and was in

18:32

full fight or flight mode. I

18:35

let him talk and let him know I'd help, so he wouldn't

18:37

think of me as a threat. He said

18:39

his name was Terry, which turned out to be a

18:41

fake name, so not sure how much

18:43

he told me was actually true. He

18:46

eventually volunteered he had been sober three

18:48

years, but started drinking again a few

18:50

days ago. He still

18:52

had my phone, but I asked if there

18:54

was anyone he wanted to call, a sponsor

18:56

or somebody else. He said he

18:58

had been in a mental facility, but had just

19:00

packed up everything and split. He

19:03

mumbled about quitting an $80,000 a

19:05

year job and how his life was a mess

19:07

and everything he had was back in the car

19:09

that he had just rolled over and abandoned. I

19:12

was reluctant to go back because it would be

19:15

out of my way, but

19:17

I finally turned around and he offered

19:19

to pay for gas and he suggested

19:21

I tell anyone who asked that I

19:23

quote, offered him a ride. He

19:25

seemed to have calmed down and now trusted me. A

19:28

few minutes later, the state police pulled me over.

19:31

The officer on the scene went to the

19:34

passenger side and said he pulled us over

19:36

because there was a bolo, beyond the lookout,

19:38

for a sprinter van fitting my RV's description

19:40

that left the scene of an accident. The

19:44

officer smelled alcohol and asked about drinking.

19:47

Terry said he'd had one or two drinks. I

19:50

said none. I hesitated to blurt

19:52

out the situation with only one officer on

19:54

the scene, not knowing what Terry was capable

19:56

of doing. For some

19:59

reason, the officer just left us alone

20:01

for a good half hour, while another

20:03

cruiser or two pulled up, another state

20:05

trooper, and a local deputy

20:07

sheriff's car. All the while,

20:09

my kidnapper was wanting to know what I'd

20:11

say to the police. I

20:13

just said, it depends what they ask. By

20:16

this time, there were four or five officers

20:19

on the scene, apparently discussing what to do

20:21

next. I guess they were conferring with

20:23

police on the scene of the accident, 50 miles away

20:26

near Pagosa Springs, that were trying

20:28

to gather information from the overturned

20:30

vehicle. I kept saying,

20:32

I wonder what's taking them so long? And

20:34

finally, even though I know you're not supposed

20:36

to exit your vehicle after being pulled over,

20:39

I jumped out and quickly told the paroleman on

20:41

my side of the car the situation. By

20:44

the time I turned around, the

20:46

other officers already had Terry cuffed.

20:49

Terry was arrested with several

20:51

charges, including kidnapping. I

20:53

think it's funny, an old man can be

20:55

quote, kidnapped. Thanks for

20:58

reading nephew lab. Oh,

21:01

you got kidnapped. You got that's

21:03

napped. Dude, you just pull over thinking,

21:05

oh my gosh, I mean, we I've done this. I've been

21:07

on a road trip and saw a crash and my brother-in-law

21:09

was driving was like, I'm going to go up there and

21:11

see if everything's okay. And

21:14

thank God that it wasn't a driver that

21:16

jumped out and was like, just fucking drive

21:18

or I'll break your neck. That's so scary.

21:20

It reminds me of the minnuso we did

21:22

about Margie Palm, that instinct

21:24

that your uncle lab

21:27

had to just remain calm, ask

21:29

questions, not panic to kind of

21:31

gain the trust of the perpetrator,

21:34

which in Margie's case, luckily worked

21:36

out for her and in your

21:38

uncle's case worked out for him.

21:41

But that is, um, it

21:44

takes us, it's a skill to, to

21:46

keep your cool in a situation like

21:48

this. So he goes to your uncle.

21:51

He sounds like, um, somebody

21:53

you want in your corner when the

21:55

shit hits the fan. Yeah, right. It's

21:57

like realizing, okay, this person is in flight.

22:00

fight or flight, they're freaking out. If I

22:02

make myself a resource for them, then they won't

22:04

see me as a threat. And he just said

22:06

he was going to break my neck. It's like,

22:08

I'll drive you anywhere. What about back to my

22:10

car? Oh, that's kind of out of my way.

22:13

Yes, there was an LOL in there. So I

22:15

think he obviously knew that that was silly. It

22:18

is a bit wild that they just left

22:21

y'all in the car for a half hour,

22:23

but also for your uncle to

22:25

be like a half hour of

22:27

sitting there with this person that you're like, I

22:29

don't know what this guy, does he have a

22:32

weapon? I don't know. Again, cool

22:34

as ice, this guy. Yeah. He's just like, wait

22:36

it out, wait for your moment. And then when

22:38

you see it's time to jump out and grab

22:41

the patrolman, you're like, this person is

22:43

kidnapped me and I didn't know how to tell you,

22:45

but you should probably put some handcuffs on him. And

22:47

the patrolman's like, what? Also,

22:49

I am so sorry for leaving you for

22:51

a half hour in the car with him

22:53

then. Exactly. Yeah.

22:55

I don't want to pull you

22:59

over and be like, we were on a bolo for

23:01

your vehicle and

23:03

it's like, oh no, I have been hunted by

23:05

the police. But in this case, you're like, yes,

23:07

please pull me over. Absolutely. I'm like, I'm a

23:09

speed, I'm going to run a red light, whatever

23:11

it takes for you to pull me over. I

23:13

think about that. I think it was from like,

23:16

maybe a Rescue 911 episode when

23:19

I was little, but someone that somebody had

23:21

jumped in their car like rear

23:23

ended somebody or maybe like ran into something because

23:26

a cop was around and they knew that it

23:28

would cause it. And I'm like, that's what you

23:30

got to do. But 50 miles

23:32

is far away from where you

23:35

were. So I'm glad that

23:37

they eventually caught up with you, but

23:39

that's wild. And I've never really thought

23:41

about kidnapped being used universally,

23:43

even if it's not a kid. It

23:46

is interesting that there isn't a word

23:48

for if it's an adult. Right.

23:51

We've just kept kidnapping in the statute, say

23:53

it, like, because we were just looking for Mike

23:55

Miller was looking at federal kidnapping statutes and yeah,

23:58

they don't say adult napping person napping. anything

24:00

like that, but we do, I think, kind

24:02

of, you know, if the

24:04

news is being like, there's been a dog napping or

24:06

whatever, but not more of like

24:08

a fun moniker that we all give

24:10

it, not actual, but. There's not an

24:13

uncle napping. There's not an uncle napped,

24:15

but maybe upnapped should be

24:17

added to the list of things people

24:19

can be charged with. Well,

24:21

Lev, send our regards to your uncle, please,

24:23

and thank him for sharing this with us.

24:29

This next story is from Jules, and

24:31

it's called, Revenge is a Dish, Best

24:34

Served Cold. Jules

24:37

writes, I've written in before and told you how

24:39

much I love and appreciate all you two do.

24:42

As nothing has changed, I'll just get into

24:44

it. This story took place in the

24:46

90s, and there's definitely an

24:48

element of the boys will be boys

24:50

attitude, which, of course, is

24:52

problematic. I wanna preface my

24:54

story by saying that I would hope

24:56

the moms involved would take what happened

24:58

more seriously today. A

25:01

few families we knew, made up of moms

25:03

and their respective kids, went to a mutual

25:05

friend's cottage for a week one summer. As

25:08

such, the dad stayed behind because of work. One

25:11

particular kid was what most parents back

25:14

in the day might call a little

25:16

shit-disturber. We'll call him A. On

25:20

the first night of the trip, A thought

25:22

it would be funny to get the other

25:24

pre-team boys together and go through all the

25:26

girls' belongings and find their underwear. They

25:29

then flung them around the upstairs of the

25:31

bunkie we were staying in like pervy Christmas

25:33

tinsel. When we, as pre-teen

25:35

girls, found this display the next day,

25:38

we were outraged and spent at least

25:40

an hour trying to collect and repack

25:42

our things. We went to

25:44

the moms and complained. While they

25:46

sympathized with us, they didn't do much other

25:48

than tell the boys off. We

25:51

wanted to get back at them, but didn't know how.

25:54

One of the moms, whose son was A, had

25:57

been quiet while we told everyone what had happened.

26:00

She eventually said, don't do

26:02

anything. We rolled our

26:04

eyes initially thinking she was protecting her

26:06

son, but then she clarified,

26:09

take the paddle boat out into the middle of

26:11

the lake. Make sure the boys hear you talking

26:13

about how you want to get back at them

26:15

and that you're going out to form a plan.

26:19

We were confused because we didn't have a plan.

26:22

She elaborated, they'll know you want to get

26:24

back at them, so they won't trust anything

26:26

you do or say. They'll be

26:28

too paranoid to come near you. You'll see.

26:32

So we did what she suggested. We went

26:34

out on the boat and probably talked about

26:36

whatever teen heartthrob was on the latest cover

26:39

of Teen Beat and 90s girls fashion. We

26:42

waited a half hour before we headed back to

26:44

shore. And ladies, let

26:47

me tell you that paranoid was

26:49

an understatement. As soon as

26:51

we got back, they tried to get us to

26:53

tell them, quote, our plan. We

26:55

just smiled and shook our heads. All

26:57

we had to do was pretend we

26:59

had something planned as revenge and

27:02

they did the work for us. They

27:04

didn't trust any food or drink we offered

27:06

them. I remember one kid actually dug through

27:08

his food and kept sniffing at it because

27:11

he thought we'd put something in it. They

27:14

wouldn't sit on anything we suggested

27:16

because apparently we were like a

27:18

more adept roadrunner setting up booby

27:20

traps. They wouldn't even play

27:22

with any game equipment, we pointed out. The

27:24

boys were so convinced that we were

27:26

trying to sabotage them that they ended

27:28

up sabotaging themselves. All we

27:30

had to do was keep giggling, knowing they

27:33

would assume the worst. After

27:36

a few days, we tried to come clean and

27:38

tell them we didn't have a plan other than

27:40

making them think we did. But

27:42

they still didn't trust us, even

27:45

though the moms tried to confirm nothing was

27:47

happening. It ended up

27:49

being a good week. The boys left us alone

27:51

and helped out more than expected. I think they

27:53

thought they'd be safer if they stuck around the

27:56

moms when they couldn't avoid us girls. Before

27:59

we left for home, They asked again

28:01

what we'd actually done. We

28:03

repeated everything we'd already tried to explain during

28:05

the week. It

28:07

was then they realized that they did

28:09

everything to themselves. They tried

28:11

to call foul, saying we'd ruined their week

28:14

for nothing. But the moms simply

28:16

shook their heads and told them they had

28:18

it coming. Up to

28:20

that point, I'd hoped they might learn their lesson. They

28:23

might have thought it was a funny prank

28:25

because it was just underwear. But

28:27

what they didn't realize, and perhaps still don't,

28:30

is that it felt violating. Someone

28:32

rifling through your things without permission is

28:34

bad enough, but to also have

28:36

them touch and display the most intimate pieces

28:39

of clothing you own, and then

28:41

for them to try and normalize their behavior

28:43

while downplaying our feelings about it by

28:45

being adamant that it was funny and

28:48

that we just don't have a sense

28:50

of humor. All while they

28:52

were still only preteens? Hard

28:54

fucking nope. I'm glad

28:56

the dads weren't there that week, because

28:58

knowing what I know now about most

29:00

of them, they likely would have modeled

29:02

more shitty behavior that would have perpetuated

29:04

the idea that females are just too

29:07

sensitive these days. Insert

29:09

eye roll so deep it hurts here. As

29:12

a mother to two boys, I'll

29:14

be ensuring that they're thoroughly educated

29:16

about boundaries, accepting no as

29:19

a full sentence and being funny without

29:21

resorting to frat boy humor. While

29:24

I was writing this out, I could almost hear your

29:26

reactions in my head, and it made me laugh. Thanks

29:29

to you both, and to everyone else

29:31

in the sinisterhood community for calling out

29:33

toxic bullshit, standing up for other women,

29:35

and providing a safe space for those

29:37

who need it. You're

29:39

all the best. Keep it creepy. Oh,

29:42

Jules? This is just,

29:44

there's an episode of the Dig Man Dyke

29:46

show called The Impractical Joke where Buddy plays

29:48

a trick on Rob, and Rob does nothing,

29:50

and he'll just be like, hey Buddy, I

29:52

got you a donut. And he really

29:54

did get him like a totally fine donut. But he's like,

29:56

I know, there's mayonnaise in this donut. You spit in it.

29:59

Everything. be like, let me get you a

30:01

chair. And he's like falling all over himself. And

30:03

that's exactly what these kids did. That paranoia just

30:06

gets them even when you're like, I swear, I'm

30:08

not planning anything. They ruined their own trip and

30:10

they deserve this. Yes, I think it's really, this

30:14

is a really good example. And I

30:16

remember things like this happening when

30:19

I was a preteen, specifically

30:21

with like, yeah, like

30:23

your bra or underwear

30:25

of like, somebody, you're

30:28

at a slumber party and the brother of

30:30

the girl and her friends like get into

30:32

your stuff. And everyone thinks it's

30:34

funny and whatever, but like really

30:36

in the nineties, we

30:38

didn't have the luxury

30:41

of being like, actually,

30:43

this is really violating and it makes me

30:45

feel, I mean, I guess we could have

30:47

said that, but no one did. But

30:50

that's exactly how you felt. Like you

30:52

felt embarrassed and shameful and

30:55

violated. Like this is my

30:57

underwear. This is the most intimate thing and

30:59

you've touched it and thrown it around. And

31:02

now I'm the bad

31:05

time because how dare I be like, what

31:07

are you doing when, you

31:09

know, it becomes like, you're just too, you don't get

31:11

it. You don't have a good sense of humor. It's

31:13

like, no, this

31:15

is a boundary that you shouldn't

31:17

cross. Don't be touching my shit.

31:19

And I'm glad. It's not unreasonable.

31:21

No, what a good suggestion from

31:24

A's mom and probably

31:27

she has some experience with their kids. She wasn't

31:29

surprised by that. It was like little shit. Here's

31:31

what you do. But yeah,

31:33

it sounds like by

31:36

doing nothing, we are our own

31:39

worst enemy and they sabotaged themselves.

31:41

They really did. My mom would have called a

31:44

kid like this a little shit. There's a lot

31:46

of little shit like that. But you know, Jewel

31:48

said, you know, maybe if this happened nowadays, the

31:50

moms would be able to point something out. And

31:52

I think that's just to say that our generations

31:54

are very fortunate that

31:57

we went through situations like this.

32:00

and then now have come out on the other side

32:02

going, I didn't like how that felt, and I do

32:04

have the power to say no and stop it, because

32:06

like Jules said, you know, if the dads had been

32:08

there, they might have been like, oh, leave the boys

32:10

alone, and ladies don't tell the girls to get back

32:12

at them. They're just having fun, and so having a,

32:17

the moms there going like, no, you should get revenge.

32:19

That's like one little step, and then we all were

32:21

the little girls who got revenge, and we've now grown

32:23

up that were like, oh no, we're not even throwing

32:25

those panties around in the first place, we're not doing

32:27

that. And anytime it's like,

32:29

well, you just don't have a

32:31

sense of humor. I'm like, I'm a professional comedian,

32:34

I get paid money dollars to be funny, and

32:36

what you're doing is hack shit. It's just hack.

32:38

Like throwing panties is hack. Get

32:40

funnier. It's hack and it's also,

32:43

it's having a laugh

32:46

at someone else's expense, which is never

32:48

something I wanna do or want to

32:50

encourage. Right, it's like, you

32:53

know, do better kids, but those 90s boys,

32:55

I think they got plenty of

32:58

revenge, like you said, dish surf called, where you're

33:00

like, we're literally just reading our tiger beat, like

33:02

why are you freaking out right now? Oh,

33:05

what a sweet, sweet revenge. They're like, why don't you

33:07

have a glass of lemonade? Why would you put in

33:09

the lemonade? Nothing, you just seem like you're thirsty. Lemons?

33:11

And they're like, what'd they put in the lemonade? Are

33:13

they trying to poison us? Yeah, I love that. Right,

33:16

you're like, do you boys wanna swim in the pool with us? They're

33:18

like, they're gonna pee in the pool. We're not gonna go swimming. You're

33:20

like, no, we get the pool to ourselves. Hell yeah.

33:22

This is awesome. Honestly, this is a

33:25

power move, I like it. This

33:27

kind of revenge is the kind of thing my sister

33:29

would do. She's a genius, so she would've thought of

33:31

that on her own without the mom. I love it

33:33

because all you've done is say, we're

33:36

gonna get back at you. And

33:38

then everything else was created

33:40

in their own head. You didn't do anything

33:43

wrong. But I'd love to

33:45

hear that folks like Jules and you and my sister are

33:47

raising this next generation of kids in the world is gonna

33:49

be a better place. So it gives me a lot of

33:51

hope that we can hang on in memories like this, laugh

33:53

at them from what they were, look at them for what

33:55

we don't want them to be for our own kids and

33:57

then go, but we're gonna keep that.

34:00

that revenge idea in there, because kids are gonna be

34:02

kids. There's gonna be a shit-disturber in every group, no

34:04

matter how hard you try, and it's like, I'm gonna

34:06

teach my kid that one. I'm

34:08

wondering if I was a shit-disturber in my

34:11

group. It doesn't sound, the type

34:13

of a shit, a little shit or

34:15

a shit-disturber was always a kid that was fucking stuff

34:17

up for fucking it up's sake. No, I didn't do

34:19

that. There was kids that would just be like, oh,

34:22

I went in your kitchen, and I smashed all the

34:24

eggs out in the backyard, and you're like, that's rude.

34:26

That's insane. Just like destroying things, and you're like, what

34:28

are you just destroying? Doesn't eggs

34:30

cost to go to the store and buy

34:33

me some? No, I

34:35

definitely did not do that. I more

34:37

just like to get

34:39

into shenanigans on my own, but

34:42

yeah, I was actually a very polite,

34:45

nice kid to parents

34:47

and adults and everything.

34:50

Yeah, that's what I figured. I figured you

34:52

ain't a shit-disturber, but when you encounter one,

34:54

this is a way to go, for sure,

34:56

thank you, Jules. Thank you, Jules, for sharing

34:58

that with us. I know there's so many

35:00

people listening that can relate, and

35:02

probably gonna get a lot more stories

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this next one is from Shanna Shanna

36:16

banana subject line is the 666

36:19

Elm Street ghost boy. My

36:22

husband me and our two kids aged

36:25

four months and three years made a

36:27

move from Dallas to Denver in 2020

36:29

for my husband's job. We

36:31

moved into a rental house. And before

36:33

we even moved, I thought we were

36:36

being scammed because the listing said the

36:38

address was 6671. But on the street

36:40

view, the house number said 6661. And

36:45

yes, it was on Elm Street. It

36:47

ended up being all good. And we moved in.

36:50

Shortly after moving in the basement flooded,

36:52

then it needed major repairs on the

36:55

plumbing as well as renovating the basement

36:57

due to water damage. After

36:59

they began with the basement renovation, I

37:01

began noticing weird things. It

37:04

was a tri level house with a

37:06

main floor and upstairs, a garden level

37:08

and a basement. I

37:10

would put my son four months old down for

37:13

a nap upstairs in my room. And then I'd

37:15

usually hang out on the garden level and listen

37:17

to y'all and do laundry. But every

37:19

so often, I'd hear footsteps in my

37:21

room from above me walking around and

37:23

then my son would wake up. It

37:26

wouldn't even be time for him to wake up. And he

37:28

was a great nap taker. My

37:30

nephew stayed with us over the summer and would text

37:33

me at night asking if the kids were running up

37:35

and down the stairs. But they

37:37

would be soundly asleep next to me.

37:40

Eventually, we all started hearing

37:42

footsteps at some point, which typically sounded

37:44

like a kid running around. But

37:47

the ones I heard upstairs sounded like an adult.

37:50

One day, my daughter three at the time

37:52

said to me, Mom, there's a little boy

37:54

at the door. Clearly

37:57

there wasn't. A

37:59

few months later. my husband and kids were

38:01

on the garden level, hanging out and playing. My

38:04

husband later told me that while down there, he

38:06

was laying on the couch while the kids were

38:08

playing, when all of a sudden he

38:10

saw a little boy, about seven or eight years

38:12

old, wearing a white t-shirt and

38:14

jeans, walking towards him.

38:17

The boy stopped and just stared at my

38:19

husband. My husband said the

38:22

boy then walked toward the stairs to the

38:24

main level and disappeared. My

38:26

husband is a huge skeptic and has never

38:28

believed in ghost. Well, a couple

38:30

more months passed and I had my neighbor over

38:32

checking out my new sewing machine in the basement.

38:35

As we were heading back up, she was ahead of me.

38:38

We walked up the basement stairs to the garden

38:40

level and then we started up the other set

38:42

of stairs to the main level when she stopped,

38:44

turned around and asked me if my kids were home.

38:47

I said no and she said she

38:49

didn't think so, but asked because she just

38:51

saw a little boy turn the corner on

38:53

the main level as if he had just

38:56

gone up the stairs. She

38:58

said she mostly saw just his white t-shirt

39:00

and that he looked to be about seven years old. I

39:03

never told my neighbor about the experiences we were

39:05

having, so this really validated

39:08

everything for me and also freaked

39:10

me out. My mom came

39:12

for a visit and we bought a Ouija board

39:14

to try and contact the boy, which I'm not

39:16

sure we really did. Who knows if those actually

39:18

work, but we had a

39:20

lot of ghostly experiences in that house and

39:22

I am glad to be back out of

39:24

there and back in Texas, baby. Okay,

39:29

Shanna Banana. Well,

39:31

spooky ghost if you're happy to live

39:33

in Dallas when you could live in

39:36

Denver. That must be a really scary

39:38

ghost. I moved to Denver into this

39:43

house with this

39:45

ghost if it just meant that I got

39:47

to, you know, like as a summer home,

39:50

I'll be there for, I'll share a home

39:52

with a ghost to get out of this

39:54

place. Isn't it a thing when the ghosts come

39:56

in a blast of cold air comes in? So I'm like,

39:58

I get the Ouija board. house.

40:00

Goddamn, please. Honestly,

40:03

haunt my yards, haunt my front yard and

40:05

my backyard. I don't know. I

40:07

just need cold spots throughout the yard so I

40:09

can just stand in them. Come up,

40:12

haunt underneath my shirt if you want. Haunt down my

40:14

pants. I

40:16

wouldn't say no. I wouldn't say no, but this is

40:19

eerie. Something like this where you kind of hear it

40:21

at first and you're like, oh, well, we had plumbing

40:23

issues. Maybe it's plumbing, but it's

40:25

like, well, we just had all of our plumbing fixed. So it's

40:27

probably not that. Well, also my

40:29

husband did stare at him. Yes, he saw a

40:32

ghost. This

40:35

is gonna sound... I'm

40:38

probably inviting something. You

40:40

just said you wanted it

40:43

three times. I'm just saying

40:45

I want to see

40:47

something to where I'm

40:49

like, oh, I just

40:51

literally saw a child in this

40:53

house that isn't mine disappear. Proof

40:56

positive with my own eyes and

40:59

that's what I'm asking for. But

41:02

am I? Because do I want to really

41:04

see that? Did I do? But I don't.

41:06

I don't know. But the

41:08

fact that the neighbor said the

41:10

same thing, that

41:13

would make me stop in my tracks

41:15

and perhaps move back to Texas. Right.

41:18

Especially because the neighbor is so nonchalant and like,

41:20

oh, is that your kid? I just saw a

41:22

kid run upstairs. Is that your kid? And then

41:24

you have to go, no, wow, you must have

41:26

something wrong with you. You better leave this house,

41:28

Margaret. It was nice seeing you again. Slam the

41:30

door. And meanwhile, she's like, I'm seeing things. And

41:33

meanwhile, you're like, www.zillow.com.

41:35

We're gonna move right now.

41:37

Now we'll say bold move,

41:40

getting that Ouija board and just seeing like,

41:43

let's just open it up. Let's open this

41:45

portal right on up. Fucking hard

41:47

left at the end. Be like, I don't know. My

41:49

husband's kind of a skeptic. So I got a Ouija

41:51

board out. Open that portal, girl.

41:53

You let you open it and then you

41:55

left down. Yeah. Oh yeah. Godspeed to the

41:57

new neighbors. What you got to do. you

42:00

get an old typewriter and then you write to

42:02

the new inhabitants of 6661L. Yeah.

42:04

It's now your turn. And then you

42:07

get a podcast episode made about you

42:09

and a Netflix series. Exactly

42:11

with that one guy. What

42:13

a time though, man. Some stuff

42:15

like this, my first thought,

42:17

well, my first thought, honestly,

42:20

I didn't really have a first

42:22

thought, but I thought this is

42:25

like when people say everything

42:27

is happening at once and time is just

42:29

like stacked on top of each other. And

42:31

I'm like, what if

42:33

that's just like another time

42:37

and there's a glitch or something? I don't know. But

42:39

then if I think about that stuff too much, my

42:42

brain starts to leak out of my ears. So I got to

42:44

stop myself. I think you're 100%

42:46

right because that's what they, some paranormal people

42:49

will say, oh, that's a residual ghost where

42:51

it's like a repeat of like a moment

42:53

in time that's just on repeat. And it's

42:55

not like interacting with you and like

42:58

sees you. It's just kind of doing its own thing and

43:00

walking past you or whatever. I told you, I thought that

43:02

the ghost at my parents' house, which my mom's like,

43:04

stop saying my house is haunted. But I thought at

43:06

least it was when I was a teenager because

43:08

my dad also saw it. It wasn't just me, but

43:11

it was the same thing where it was like on

43:13

almost like on a loop. Like it

43:15

would just, it would walk down the hallway in one

43:17

direction. Like this kid seems like he's just walking up

43:19

the stairs over and over again. You're a One Direction

43:21

fan. Yeah. I

43:25

was thinking that

43:27

is one thing too. I was thinking it was

43:31

another universe happening in

43:33

the same time that we are.

43:36

And in their timeline, he's just

43:38

walking around the house and there's like a glitch

43:41

and you just kind of like see a glimpse

43:43

into that world for a second. Yeah.

43:46

I mean, that's, that's why I

43:48

thought that's how time worked. That it's like a stacked on a

43:50

line. I don't understand that. It's

43:53

like pancakes, right? Not like sausage links linked on the

43:55

table. It's like a stack of pancakes. Some people, me

43:57

in my head, it's sausage. Yeah,

46:00

Cardinal, Cardinal Sin. Well, what a way

46:02

to have to leave your house, but

46:05

thank you, Shanna, for sending us that.

46:07

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46:09

you're here. Just

46:11

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this next one is from Curly Burch. And

47:22

the subject line is, I think

47:25

I saw a Sasquatch or

47:27

it saw more of me. Well,

47:30

this is one of those things that I've never

47:32

shared, but I've become a big fan of your

47:34

show over the last few months and figured I

47:36

should throw this out there now and get it

47:38

out of my system. Thank you

47:40

both for creating such a welcoming community that

47:42

helped me feel comfortable with sharing. Back

47:45

in the 2010s, I took part in

47:47

the huge shale gas boom in the Northeastern

47:49

U.S. At the time, it seemed like

47:51

a great move. But looking back,

47:54

meh, not the biggest fan of supporting

47:56

that industry. Oh well, the

47:58

nature of the work requires... constant travel.

48:01

Every time I came back on duty, I was headed

48:03

to a new job site. Large

48:05

crews of men would handle driving the equipment

48:08

to sites, setting it up, and running things,

48:10

but I was the engineer and there weren't

48:12

as many of us. So I would drive

48:14

myself site to site as needed to help

48:17

with the technical side of things. I'd

48:20

had the luck of spending an entire work

48:22

rotation in our office doing research and tidying

48:24

up paperwork. When, on my

48:26

second to last day, my manager says, Hey,

48:29

we have a job starting up in Central

48:31

PA. New customer and they want to be

48:33

ready to go ASAP. I know

48:35

this sucks to ask, but can you drive over, get them

48:37

set up, and then somebody else will be there when your

48:39

week is over. Drive 500

48:42

miles, work one day, drive back?

48:44

Okay. I genuinely liked

48:46

my manager. So, alright, let's go.

48:50

I know most of the major highways to get me 80% of

48:53

the way there. Then it falls back onto

48:55

good old GPS. If you

48:57

haven't been to Central Pennsylvania, it is

49:00

gorgeous. Green rolling hills,

49:02

deep valleys full of quaint little

49:04

groups of houses, a sprinkling

49:07

of college towns. I haven't

49:09

been back in about half a decade, but

49:11

I do still miss it dearly. In

49:14

particular, a large chunk of that

49:16

area is taken up by three

49:18

massive chunks of protected forest acreage.

49:20

Allegheny National and the Sproul and

49:23

Susquehannock State Forests. This

49:25

all happened in early November, and that

49:27

year, leaves were still changing, but hadn't

49:29

fallen yet. I'm not sure of

49:32

the legal details of it, but this new

49:34

customer's gas leases were predominantly located on some

49:36

of those state game lands. I'd

49:38

never been in this area, but the GPS

49:41

route didn't look too shady, so I took

49:43

an exit and started working my way towards

49:45

the job site on a tiny, winding little

49:47

forest road. Now, to get

49:49

there on time for day shift, this meant

49:51

I was passing through this area at about

49:53

4am. Still absolutely

49:56

dark, and the forest made it even

49:58

darker. vehicle

50:00

would have appeared, we would have had ourselves

50:02

a little standoff. That, plus I

50:04

swear I could have held my arm out the

50:06

window and slapped the trees as I zipped by.

50:09

I'm not a claustrophobic person, but I was

50:11

definitely on edge, trying to ride

50:14

that line between driving at a good speed but

50:16

still keeping an eye out on the side of

50:18

the road to avoid any deer or animals that

50:20

might zip out in front of me. I

50:22

come to a point that had a

50:25

typical foresty style sign, alert rock feature

50:27

ahead, or scenic outlook

50:29

ahead, something like that. Okay,

50:32

I thought I like those things, I'm sure it'll

50:34

be interesting. Now, I

50:36

pop around a corner in the road and I

50:38

see a few things very quickly. See

50:40

the rock? Massive. If it was hollow,

50:43

my entire work truck would fit inside

50:45

there. Thanks for the heads up sign,

50:47

did not expect that here. They

50:49

also ran the road right beside the rock, so

50:52

there was also a curves ahead sign,

50:54

the wavy arrow one. Okay, gotcha, pay

50:57

attention to the road. And

50:59

at the top of that sign, hand

51:01

on my heart, two big bright

51:05

circles that were very obviously eye

51:08

shine from my headlights. And

51:10

then I'm past it all. Still cruising

51:12

down the road, I'm probably 40, 50 feet past

51:14

it all by the time my brain processes everything.

51:17

I glance at my rear view, nothing. My

51:19

tail lines aren't bright enough to show me

51:21

anything, plus I'm still moving away from it.

51:23

For a split second, I think about tapping

51:25

my brakes to light things up, but then

51:27

I'm coming to the road curves and I

51:29

need to focus on driving. As

51:32

I keep rolling, I am wired.

51:35

If those were eyes, they were easily the size

51:37

of a billiard ball or a baseball. Also,

51:39

something I don't think most people think about is

51:42

how large road signs are. They're

51:44

meant to be huge and readable at speed,

51:46

so folks don't realize that they're usually two

51:48

to two and a half feet wide and

51:50

they sit five to six feet off the

51:52

ground. So whatever I saw

51:55

had eyes about seven or eight

51:57

feet off the ground. Eight

51:59

feet. And

56:00

I just don't think it'll ever fully go away.

56:03

If you're ever running around the woods

56:05

of Pennsylvania during the wee morning hours

56:07

or early evening, just be on

56:09

your toes. You never really know

56:11

what's walking around out there in the

56:13

woods. Oh.

56:17

Bigfoot liked what Bigfoot

56:20

saw and came back for curly birch for

56:22

another little peek. Trying to peek. Oh,

56:26

man. Those, first of all,

56:28

yes. Beautiful. Oh, yeah. Driving

56:32

up hill, like mountainous things

56:34

like that is always gorgeous, but there

56:36

is always a sense of panic because

56:38

I am like, man,

56:40

you break down here. You're kind of

56:42

screwed. And then when the road is

56:44

so narrow that you're like, two cars

56:46

can't go at the same time. So

56:49

you're already kind of on edge. And

56:51

then you see two baseball

56:53

sized glowing orbs. It's fucking huge.

56:57

That's big. Oh,

56:59

my gosh. And especially like

57:02

I appreciate his description of

57:04

like, the sign is huge. And you're just like,

57:06

oh, OK, sign. Especially if it's like four o'clock

57:08

in the morning or 4.30 in the morning, you're

57:10

just like, that's not a real time. You

57:12

shouldn't be up at that time ever, anybody. Tons

57:14

of people are all the time. And God bless you for

57:17

doing it. But your brain is still

57:19

kind of like coming back online and just

57:21

be like, rock ahead, see a sign, giant eyes,

57:23

keep going. Giant eyes. Giant

57:26

rock, giant eyes. Like, oh, shit. Yeah, you're

57:28

still trying to recover from the size of

57:31

that rock. And then you get two big

57:33

ass eyes coming at you. I

57:35

think Bigfoot was like, rock ahead, watch out. Like,

57:37

just trying to like be a buddy. Like,

57:40

we should get him a vest and some like flag.

57:42

So he just makes sure nobody hits the rock. Because

57:44

like Curlybird said, like, he didn't know that there was

57:46

going to be a big rock coming up. A sign,

57:48

lovely. But a Bigfoot, that's

57:50

going to save lives out there. So get

57:53

him a helmet and a light, like a

57:55

lighted vest. Yeah, he needs a reflector vest,

57:57

some like orange, little like, you

57:59

know. the what are they called

58:01

at airports? The little glowy sticks that

58:03

they use the ATC sticks. What are

58:05

the people called at airports

58:07

that bring in the planes? Uh

58:10

the ground control ground control. Yeah

58:12

yeah that's not what I

58:15

was thinking of but yeah that I've been having

58:17

an issue lately where the word I try to think

58:19

of won't come to my head. Probably

58:22

should start doing crossword puzzles

58:24

or something to start stimulating stuff up there.

58:27

It's hard to like pull it I just

58:29

saw New Heights Travis was like what he

58:31

was trying to describe Austin Powers and he

58:33

was like that movie with the guys and

58:35

he just goes I wish I was smarter

58:37

I wish I could just just reach into

58:39

my brain files and pull out the word

58:42

I'm trying to say I'm like dude we

58:44

all wish we could just reach into our

58:46

brain files and pull them out. Yes often

58:48

many times every day well

58:51

we got to get up to Northeastern PA

58:53

and see what's going on up there go

58:55

on a little Squatch hunt. Squatch

58:58

hunt it's so beautiful because we flew into

59:00

Pittsburgh and then we didn't really drive further

59:02

northeast we had drove south to West

59:04

Virginia but all that whole area of

59:06

like central southern Pennsylvania and like West

59:08

Virginia all just like big gorges and

59:11

like beautiful trees and stuff and like

59:13

hundred percent Bigfoot's live there like all

59:15

over. Everybody's like you can't know them

59:17

like you can't go there's so many

59:19

trees they do you know what's

59:21

in there? And maybe they come down pick

59:23

pick at you yeah come to Pennsylvania we're

59:25

thick and then it's just a Bigfoot with

59:27

a big ass. With

59:29

his booty? We think. Well thank you Curly Burch I

59:32

can see why you wouldn't want to tell your boss

59:34

that but thanks for telling us. I'm so glad you

59:36

did and I'm glad that our

59:39

community allows you to feel safe

59:41

enough to do that because we're

59:43

certainly never gonna judge anybody for

59:45

talking about their Bigfoot encounter in

59:47

fact we encourage and welcome it.

59:50

Please send it to me yeah never

59:52

make anyone feel bad about something that

59:54

they experience that's wrong and especially if

59:56

it has to do with Bigfoot that

59:58

is a slippable offense. I'm

1:00:01

feeling feisty today. Well, thank you, Curly

1:00:03

Burch. We very much appreciate it. And

1:00:05

may you see many more gentle Bigfoot

1:00:07

in your way? It sounds like it

1:00:11

wasn't something Curly Burch enjoyed. So

1:00:13

I would say if you gentle Bigfoot. Like

1:00:15

I said, may you see many more gentle

1:00:18

Bigfoots? This one seemed gentle. He

1:00:20

was just a little shy. Now

1:00:22

I will say, what's scarier,

1:00:25

a Bigfoot or an eight foot

1:00:27

owl flying around the woods? I'm

1:00:30

going owl because that's worse. That's too big.

1:00:32

That's too big of a bird for me.

1:00:35

Well, I agree. And it's too big and

1:00:37

it's talons. So it's more dangerous than Bigfoot.

1:00:39

And also we know that owls are natural

1:00:41

predators. Yeah, you could just pick

1:00:44

your ass up and take you to a nest.

1:00:46

We don't know that a Bigfoot is a natural

1:00:48

predator. So given what we know, I'm going to

1:00:50

go with an owl, a scarier. But honestly, being

1:00:52

lifted off the ground by a giant owl, except

1:00:54

for the talons like hurting you, that would be

1:00:57

really awful. But if there was a way I

1:00:59

could wear like a suit, like a leather suit

1:01:01

perhaps, and then the owl picks me up and

1:01:03

then flies me away, I'd be OK. That sounds

1:01:05

fun. Now they got to keep

1:01:08

gripping. Yes, hold up. I'm going

1:01:10

to lock them in. It's like on those roller coasters

1:01:12

where you're like hanging out the bottom half. This

1:01:15

is Heather, why are you wearing a leather vest? I'm trying to

1:01:17

get lifted. What are you saying? But

1:01:20

then it takes you to its giant nest.

1:01:22

And now's where the story really

1:01:24

begins. Yeah, the nest where. Is it going to eat

1:01:26

you? Is it going to take you in as

1:01:28

one of its own? Are you a bride?

1:01:30

It pulls its head off. What is it? It's a mask this

1:01:32

whole time. There's a person under there. It's a Bigfoot dressed as

1:01:34

an owl. I'm wearing this owl

1:01:37

suit. And you're like, Bigfoot, it was you all along.

1:01:39

He can fly. We just didn't know. Well, this took

1:01:42

quite a turn. But that is the magic of sinisterhood.

1:01:44

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1:03:06

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1:03:09

Jordan's subject line is terrorized

1:03:11

by a toilet. She

1:03:13

writes, Hey, ladies, I just want

1:03:15

to start by saying I love y'all and the

1:03:18

podcast. And I'm so excited to see y'all live

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in Charlotte. I was introduced to your show about

1:03:22

six months ago and have been a daily listener

1:03:24

ever since. I'm a 37

1:03:26

year old woman from a small town in East

1:03:28

Tennessee. I'm not much of a writer,

1:03:30

but I'm going to try my best. So here we

1:03:32

go. Let's get into it. On

1:03:35

October 2nd, 2023, I was

1:03:37

at my local O'Charlie's having a drink and

1:03:39

visiting a friend who was managing that night.

1:03:42

After about an hour of hanging out and

1:03:45

sipping on my liquid marijuana, my tiny lady

1:03:47

bladder was full and I needed to pee.

1:03:50

The bathroom was small with three stalls, which

1:03:52

were all vacant. So I headed into the

1:03:54

big stall. There I was

1:03:56

hovering and handling business when the sensor on

1:03:59

the toilet decided to go I was done

1:04:01

and started flushing, but I wasn't

1:04:03

done and this wasn't a normal flush It

1:04:06

kept flushing over and over and over and

1:04:08

was getting louder and louder The

1:04:10

pipes were rumbling and the water was

1:04:13

violently swirling and smashing around like a

1:04:15

storm was raging in the bowl as

1:04:18

The rumbling got louder. It was

1:04:20

accompanied by a very high-pitched squealing

1:04:22

noise. Oh my god. It was

1:04:24

so fucking loud It all

1:04:26

started happening so quickly water was splashing

1:04:28

everywhere and here I am still peeing

1:04:31

and getting soaked Thoroughly

1:04:33

freaked out ears ringing and splattered

1:04:35

in toilet water I rushed

1:04:37

out of the stall with the toilet

1:04:40

still vigorously flushing I washed and dried

1:04:42

my hands as fast as possible Then

1:04:45

as I turned to leave I noticed

1:04:47

all the stall doors were swaying

1:04:49

back and forth in unison Not

1:04:52

a slight sway either all the

1:04:55

way open and then all the way closed What

1:04:58

the fuck I can rationalize

1:05:00

the toilet issues to just some crazy plumbing

1:05:02

problem But the door swing made

1:05:04

my heart drop into my ass. I

1:05:08

Shot out of there like a damn bullet and ran to tell my

1:05:10

friend what the hell just happened to me and to have him go

1:05:12

Check it out Feeling crazy and

1:05:14

needing some validation. I went with him and

1:05:17

Somehow everything was back to

1:05:19

normal. Am I losing my shit? How

1:05:22

the fuck is that possible? The

1:05:25

toilet had stopped loudly and aggressively

1:05:27

flushing the stall doors had

1:05:29

stopped moving and there was no water mess from

1:05:31

all the splashing Well, except

1:05:33

on my pants There was

1:05:35

definitely water on the floor when I had initially

1:05:37

left the bathroom and it couldn't have dried

1:05:39

that fast Where the hell did

1:05:41

it go? And while I'm questioning everything how

1:05:44

on earth did nobody hear all that noise?

1:05:47

I'm a naturally skeptical person, but

1:05:49

I can't shake the feeling something paranormal is

1:05:51

going on in that bathroom Periodically,

1:05:54

I asked my friend for updates

1:05:56

and so far six other ladies

1:05:58

have reported similar experiences in

1:06:00

that bathroom. So what

1:06:03

do y'all think? Did I encounter a

1:06:05

bathroom ghost at the O'Charlies? Thanks

1:06:08

for reading. Y'all are the best. Love, Jordan.

1:06:11

Hold on. I got to

1:06:13

Google liquid marijuana real quick.

1:06:15

O'Charlies and see what we're...

1:06:18

What we're dealing with. If this is an actual drink or

1:06:22

if it's just a funny

1:06:24

way of describing something, O'Charlies.

1:06:28

O'Charlies has got some tinnies when you

1:06:30

Google them. O'Charlies liquid pot.

1:06:33

Okay. Liquid marijuana... Their liquid pot is

1:06:35

about to suck you down into this

1:06:38

liquid pot and you're never going to

1:06:40

come back. O'Charlies restaurant in... Oh,

1:06:42

damn it. This isn't giving me what

1:06:44

I want. But how strong is the

1:06:47

liquid marijuana cocktail? This is from

1:06:49

just Google. The

1:06:51

liquid marijuana cocktail has an alcohol content

1:06:53

of 11.5%, which

1:06:56

places it in the mid-range compared to other

1:06:59

cocktails. For example, a classic margarita

1:07:01

might range from 10 to 15% alcohol

1:07:03

by volume, depending on the recipe, making

1:07:06

the liquid marijuana a moderately strong cocktail

1:07:08

choice. Okay. So because I was like...

1:07:10

Oh, it's got Midori in it. Maybe

1:07:12

Jordan had like so many of these

1:07:14

that shit got wild, but it sounds

1:07:17

like it's not as crazy

1:07:19

as I was thinking. No, it

1:07:21

says half ounce of Malibu or coconut rum,

1:07:23

half ounce of Midori, half ounce of blue

1:07:25

Curacao, half ounce of Captain Morgan. So it's

1:07:27

like two ounces. A fruity tropical

1:07:29

drink. Yeah. And then the rest is pineapple

1:07:31

juice and Sprite with ice. So nothing... I

1:07:33

wonder why they call it liquid marijuana. I

1:07:35

don't know. It was like I was doing

1:07:37

straight ever clear shots and then the bathroom

1:07:39

tried to eat me. And you're like, yeah,

1:07:41

the bathroom might try to eat me. But

1:07:43

you're like, I was just like sipping on

1:07:45

a little nice, like I was having a

1:07:47

normal evening and then I was

1:07:49

about to get sucked down into the bowels of

1:07:52

hell via a toilet at an O'Charlie's, which sounds

1:07:54

honestly like it could be a portal. I

1:07:57

have been in this situation, not at an O'Charlie's.

1:08:00

But where you get that toilet where it's

1:08:02

just like continuously swirling and it is an

1:08:04

auto flush and you're like, bitch, I'm trying

1:08:06

to go. I don't want all this splashing

1:08:08

on me. It's so gross. Oh

1:08:10

yeah. It's usually at like a sporting

1:08:12

of like an arena of some sort.

1:08:14

Oftentimes. Yeah. Yeah.

1:08:17

Where they're like, this thing will flush. We swear to God. And

1:08:20

I'm like, it doesn't stop flushing. No. This

1:08:22

is nuts. No. It's like

1:08:24

a double dutch. You

1:08:26

can't. The weirdest part of this

1:08:28

to me, yes, the doors

1:08:31

swaying open and closed. That's wild.

1:08:34

But the water being gone. And

1:08:36

everything's like, I don't like

1:08:39

that the ghost is like, oh, you going to go

1:08:41

tell people that the toilet flushed all over you? Good

1:08:43

luck. They're going to think you

1:08:45

peed yourself. I'm mopping this up. This ghost is

1:08:47

mean. Or the ghost is like, I'll clean it.

1:08:49

No worries. Go ahead. Back,

1:08:51

go enjoy your drink. I'll clean the bathroom. Damn. You

1:08:54

just got to know that no one likes getting

1:08:57

public bathroom toilet water splashed up on

1:08:59

their ass when they're trying to pee.

1:09:01

So I feel like this is rude.

1:09:04

This is a rude ghost that seems to

1:09:06

be targeting women. And I

1:09:08

think you should form a support group.

1:09:11

If there's at least seven of you,

1:09:13

you plus the six others, there's got

1:09:15

to be more. If you have been

1:09:17

accosted by a ghost by

1:09:19

a toilet in the O'Charlies, please

1:09:21

let us know because we

1:09:23

might run into something here. And Charlotte. Share

1:09:26

your story. Oh, also thank you so much for

1:09:28

coming to the show. That was a super fun

1:09:30

time. So we are so glad you were there.

1:09:33

Oh, we had a blast. Yeah, definitely. If anybody else

1:09:36

has had something similar in a place like that, specifically

1:09:39

at the Charlie's, the Charlotte O'Charlies,

1:09:42

please let us know. But

1:09:44

that's the kind of thing that a bathroom

1:09:46

ghost, you got to be helpful. Like it

1:09:48

made me think of the Texas theater bathroom

1:09:51

ghost. Yeah, I was thinking that too. Because

1:09:53

allegedly it gives you paper towels. Too many.

1:09:55

But it's still sometimes. I

1:09:57

hate when they gave you just a tiny little strip.

1:10:00

And they're like, now I look like

1:10:02

a hog trying to get five pieces

1:10:04

of this out, but it makes one

1:10:06

complete piece of paper towel actually. And

1:10:09

it's just like the size of a Kleenex. I'm like, man,

1:10:11

or the ones where it's like, just pull and I'm like

1:10:13

yanking it out. It'd be great to have a ghost. If

1:10:16

y'all don't know what we're talking about, we did our special

1:10:18

Live at the Texas Theater Live

1:10:20

on Moment, but you can also watch it

1:10:22

as a perk on our Patreon, but we

1:10:24

did a whole segment about the ghosts of

1:10:26

the Texas Theater we were in. And apparently

1:10:28

they have a bathroom ghost. So I can

1:10:30

see why water, if it's an energetic conduit.

1:10:33

Bathroom would be a place to check those.

1:10:35

It's a literal portal. Literally. I

1:10:37

mean, these live in the sewers, Pennywise

1:10:39

did. That's right. It's a

1:10:41

potty portal. Well, don't get sucked in the

1:10:43

potty portal. I don't think- A portal potty.

1:10:46

Portal potty, there it is. Well,

1:10:49

I'm glad to hear you're not alone, but I'm sorry

1:10:51

this has happened to more than one person, Jordan. One

1:10:55

time it's a fluke. Two times, that's

1:10:57

weird. Seven times you

1:11:00

have a ghost. Call the Ghostbusters. You-

1:11:04

But for real, you got to. What a time. What

1:11:06

a time. And now I wanna try one of

1:11:08

those liquid marijuanas. I usually just like regular, but

1:11:10

you know, whatever, might switch it up. I

1:11:13

gotta do some more. My brain this whole

1:11:15

time is like, what an interesting name, because

1:11:17

that is not what I would have imagined

1:11:19

the cocktail to be if somebody was like,

1:11:22

what's in a liquid marijuana? Oh, is it

1:11:24

green? Because the medorian and the blue

1:11:26

curacao. Oh, that's melon, right? Yeah,

1:11:28

and medori's bright green. Yeah, okay.

1:11:31

Yeah, so, makes it look green maybe.

1:11:33

I'll have one. Well, yeah, right, I

1:11:35

tried out, but oh, Jordan, thank you for sharing that

1:11:37

visual of you just getting destroyed by the toilet was

1:11:39

very funny and it was hard not to laugh while

1:11:41

I was reading it, but I'm very sorry that it

1:11:44

happened to you, but thank you for sharing it with

1:11:46

us. Also, Jordan,

1:11:48

you're an excellent writer. This was

1:11:50

very funny and very well-written, and

1:11:52

so just know that we

1:11:55

think it's great, so and

1:11:58

everyone else is gonna have a blast. No pun

1:12:00

intended. Listening to this too. A real ass blast

1:12:02

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1:12:12

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1:12:15

And he said that oftentimes when he does a first draft

1:12:17

of something, he just pulls out voice notes on his phone

1:12:19

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1:12:21

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1:12:24

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1:12:26

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1:12:28

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1:12:30

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1:12:32

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1:12:34

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1:12:36

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1:12:40

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1:12:42

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1:12:45

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1:12:49

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1:13:02

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