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Hi, I'm here with Isaac Butler, a
1:07
cultural critic and historian who you may remember
1:10
from the episode we did about method acting back
1:12
in 2022. Hey, Willa. Isaac,
1:14
I would really like you to tell us about this art exhibition
1:17
that was put on in the late 1990s in Los Angeles that
1:20
was full of cheeky, funny, slightly
1:22
mysterious work that you wouldn't necessarily
1:24
expect to see in an art museum. Sure,
1:26
yeah. So let me just describe a few
1:29
of the pieces for you. There was a pool
1:31
float, but instead of a normal
1:34
pool float, it looked like a sperm about
1:36
to fertilize an egg. There was
1:38
a clock where all the numbers
1:41
on the clock have been replaced with images of
1:43
bacteria and viruses. There
1:46
was a quilt, but the pattern on the
1:48
quilt was the chemical formula for
1:50
the abortion pill. It was a
1:52
lot of work like that.
1:54
I have to confess that I find this all like
1:57
cool and delightful and
1:59
I kind of it, like I would put
2:01
that clock in my house and I certainly
2:04
wish that I could have seen the show. Yeah,
2:06
but you know the amazing thing is is that you
2:09
probably did actually see this
2:11
work and so did millions of
2:13
Americans. This is a story
2:15
that I learned about while I was researching
2:18
the new book I'm working on which takes place in the art
2:20
world in the 80s and 90s. All of
2:22
this work was masterminded by an artist
2:25
named Mel Chin. To give you a sense
2:27
of what Mel's like, when I asked him where he was in
2:29
his career when he started doing this, this is
2:31
what he said.
2:32
Well, my career
2:34
I don't think about my art making
2:37
and practice as a career. Mel
2:39
is being very modest here. He is
2:41
a conceptual artist known for everything from
2:44
traditional paintings to giant
2:45
landscape art and he has
2:47
also won a MacArthur Genius Grant.
2:50
And back in the early 1990s he
2:52
was commissioned to take part in that show
2:54
we mentioned earlier. It was called Uncommon
2:57
Sense and it was a group show at the
2:59
Museum of Contemporary Art where the museum
3:02
commissioned artists to create work that
3:04
upended the traditional relationship between
3:07
artist and spectator.
3:08
And Mel was thinking about this commission
3:10
and how to make something that might also
3:13
speak to Los Angeles when
3:15
he was on an
3:15
airplane. And I remember looking
3:18
out the window, am I over Kansas
3:20
or some Midwestern state?
3:24
The lights were on. I thought
3:26
it was to think LA is in the air. It's
3:29
through microwave transmission and
3:33
it's through the television that's on down
3:35
there.
3:39
Television made in LA was
3:41
in the atmosphere and it was being beamed
3:43
down to Kansas and the rest of the country
3:45
too. What if you could take those microwave
3:48
transmissions, those little bits
3:50
of television, those pieces of LA
3:53
and harness them to introduce
3:55
people to new art and ideas.
3:59
all of this when he got home and when he walked
4:02
in the door his wife
4:04
was watching TV. And
4:07
there was a huge blonde head,
4:09
a
4:10
blonde haired head in
4:12
the middle of the screen and I
4:15
think she said that's Heather Locklear.
4:17
Morning, Minnie. You're fired. Fired. You are
4:19
a pathetic, sick excuse for a man. If
4:21
my mother wants you so badly she can have you and all the crap
4:23
that comes with you. She moved her head
4:26
and there was a painting behind it. And
4:29
I said that's it.
4:31
It will be Melrose's place.
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This is Decoder Ring. I'm Willa
4:43
Paskin. In the mid-1990s
4:45
a collective of roughly a hundred artists
4:47
would spend three years smuggling sperm
4:49
floats, viral clocks and dozens
4:51
of other pieces of provocative art onto
4:54
the set of the hit primetime soap opera
4:56
Melrose Place. They called themselves
4:58
the Gala Committee and they called their
5:01
project in the name of
5:03
the place. Today, Isaac Butler
5:05
is going to tell the story of this unlikely
5:08
art installation, a tremendous
5:11
feat of art hijinks that
5:13
hit right up against the limitations
5:16
of mass media to get us to
5:18
see what's right in front of our faces.
5:21
So today on Decoder Ring, how
5:24
did Melrose Place become the
5:26
home of hundreds of pieces
5:28
of contemporary
5:29
art? And why did
5:31
no one notice?
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So Mel Chin had his airplane epiphany
6:29
in 1994. What he wanted
6:31
to do was something like an art heist, but
6:33
in reverse. Instead of stealing
6:35
art from a museum, he wanted
6:37
to smuggle art in to television.
6:43
Now in any good heist movie, the first thing you
6:45
need to do is assemble your crew. You need
6:47
a demolition guy, a pickpocket, an
6:49
actor, an electronics expert, and so on.
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Mel, well he didn't really have any
6:54
of that. What he had instead were
6:56
students. A lot of students.
6:59
Mel was teaching both at CalArts in Los Angeles
7:02
and at the University of Georgia in Athens.
7:05
He introduced the concept of the project in
7:07
class the day after Halloween, which
7:09
it turns out the CalArts crew took very
7:12
seriously. People still had
7:15
blood dripping from their mouths. It
7:17
was a motley crew and I introduced
7:19
the concept and people
7:23
thought I was kidding. We had just had our Halloween
7:25
party, which was legendary at CalArts.
7:28
John LaPointe was a student of Mel's. Then
7:30
met this crazy dude who was all very
7:32
serious in photos and wearing gray suits
7:35
and stuff and he was kind
7:37
of a crazy son of a bitch. After
7:42
Mel explaining the idea, John, who
7:44
was one of the first to join the project, was instantly
7:47
intrigued. His mind started to
7:49
whirr. How would one, you know,
7:53
insert art? What would you make of the first? What would you
7:55
talk about? What would you do if you had access? What would you do?
7:58
They started trying to figure out
7:59
this out. First, they gave
8:02
themselves a name, the Gala Committee, the
8:04
GA for Georgia, the LA for
8:06
Los Angeles, both of the places where Mel
8:08
was teaching. Second, they decided
8:11
how it would be organized, non-hierarchically.
8:14
It couldn't just be the Mel Chin
8:17
Show. And third, they
8:19
also made a decision about how the committee
8:21
would operate. The ICE crew would have to
8:23
do it secretly, we have to keep it
8:26
quiet, we have to
8:28
be careful. The reason
8:30
they wanted to keep it under wraps had to
8:32
do with their inspirations, which also
8:35
used stealth to their advantage. One
8:37
was something as old as the soap operas
8:40
themselves. The
8:42
guiding light presented by
8:45
Ivory Soap, the most famous soap in the world.
8:47
The television is a modern etching
8:49
tool, etching into our brains
8:52
products, because that's what a soap opera
8:55
is. It was invented to sell product
8:57
and place things appropriately in
9:00
our minds. The soap opera got
9:02
its name way back in the 1930s and 40s when they were seen
9:04
as vehicles
9:06
for companies to sell household products
9:08
to homemakers. By the time Melrose
9:11
Place was on the air, product placement
9:13
was a fixture of American television
9:15
and movies. But instead
9:17
of announcing itself the way it did in the early
9:20
days of television, product placement
9:22
in the 1990s relied on subtlety.
9:25
Instead of saying a show was brought to you by Coca-Cola,
9:28
you would just see your favorite characters drink
9:30
Coca-Cola. The Gala Committee
9:33
wanted to use this technique but to place
9:35
art concepts instead of products. The
9:39
second inspiration was an anti-capitalist
9:41
art making strategy called culture
9:43
jamming. John LaPointe. There were lots
9:46
of instances of people using
9:48
early mass communication tools or
9:50
group communication tools to playfully
9:53
screw with popular culture.
9:55
And
9:56
you know this was pre-internet day so what else
9:58
you gonna do, right? Culture jamming was a
10:01
leftist practice of pranksterism
10:03
that used impish humor to critique the
10:05
systems of big business and social conservatism
10:08
that had become intertwined during the Reagan
10:10
administration. One of the most
10:12
famous examples was something called the
10:15
Barbie Liberation Organization,
10:17
in which artists surreptitiously swapped
10:20
the voice boxes on talking Barbies
10:22
and GI Joes. And on Christmas morning,
10:25
talking Barbies said like, let's go kill
10:27
them. And GI Joe was like, you know, I
10:29
like baking. And it made national news. In
10:32
press releases, the group claims to
10:34
have gotten 300 altered Barbies
10:37
and GI Joes onto store
10:39
shelves in 43 states. Another
10:43
inspiration was less whimsical, viruses.
10:47
At the time, the idea of virality
10:49
was everywhere. With the advent
10:51
of the internet, hackers and computer
10:53
viruses were taking over the public
10:55
imagination. And the phrase internet
10:58
meme was coined in 1993
11:00
to describe a new viral way
11:02
that ideas were spreading. But
11:05
most urgently, this was also
11:07
the height of the AIDS crisis. I was
11:09
making all those biological associations,
11:12
medical associations as well, especially
11:15
in the wake of the AIDS epidemic
11:18
and the tragedy. We wanted to
11:20
do a creative response. The
11:23
notion was that the soap opera would be the host,
11:26
the gala committee would be the virus and
11:28
their art was the RNA, transforming
11:30
the show into a carrier for new ideas.
11:34
So now the gala committee had its name,
11:37
its concept, its team and
11:39
its approach. All they had to do
11:41
was, you know, smuggle
11:43
their work onto a hugely successful,
11:46
closely observed TV show whose
11:48
scripts were guarded like state-seeking.
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The very reason that the Gala committee wanted
13:03
to place their art on Melrose Place was
13:05
also exactly the reason doing so seemed
13:07
so unlikely. Melrose
13:10
Place was a huge, huge
13:12
hit. Emily Nussbaum is a writer
13:14
at The New Yorker and a Pulitzer Prize-winning
13:17
TV critic. It was a nighttime soap opera,
13:19
but it absolutely hit
13:22
it big at that moment. Hitting it
13:24
big also meant something different then than
13:26
it does now. Back then, there
13:28
were only four TV networks, and one
13:30
of them was an upstart that had only launched
13:32
in 1986 called Fox.
13:35
Fox tried to set itself apart by being
13:38
younger and more provocative than the three
13:40
established networks. It aired shows
13:42
like The Simpsons, Married with Children, and
13:44
Beverly Hills, 90210.
13:46
Hey,
13:49
John. Hey, Kelly. Bryn
13:52
and I were just talking. Which do you think guys
13:54
like best gun girls long or short hair? That's
13:57
a deep question. Personally,
13:59
I prefer blondes. 90210 was
14:02
created by the god of the prime time soaps,
14:05
Aaron Spelling. Over three decades
14:07
he had become one of the most powerful people
14:10
in television, with hits like Charlie's
14:12
Angels, The Love Boat, and Dynasty.
14:15
And 90210 had helped put the fledgling
14:17
Fox network on the map. Mark Harris
14:20
is a cultural critic and historian who covered
14:22
television in the 1990s as a writer and
14:25
editor for Entertainment Weekly. Even though
14:27
everyone on Beverly Hills 90210
14:30
looked like they were 28 years old, it was still
14:34
set not just in high school, but like
14:36
freshman and sophomore year of high school at that
14:38
point. So there was only so much they could
14:41
do with the plot lines.
14:43
And I think Fox and Aaron Spelling
14:45
thought, why don't we do a spinoff
14:48
that is focused
14:49
on the lives of 20-somethings
14:52
and we can be a lot more
14:54
daring and a lot racier.
15:00
Melrose Place was that spinoff.
15:02
It premiered in 1992 and focused
15:05
on the complicated lives of the very attractive
15:08
and very horny residents of its
15:10
titular apartment complex. I
15:12
would say that the difference between Melrose
15:14
Place and previous prime
15:16
time soaps, there were two differences really. One
15:19
was a
15:20
taste for really
15:23
bizarre, ludicrous plot
15:25
lines. I mean,
15:27
they really had an appetite
15:29
for somebody going out of their minds.
15:38
The other thing that Melrose Place did that was really
15:40
different, they accelerated
15:43
through plot in this really
15:45
aggressive way. So there was this
15:47
absolute mandate to tune
15:50
in.
15:59
And Rita,
16:00
she's the strong one, she protects
16:02
us from her. Have you ever read the book symbol?
16:05
At its peak, Melrose was watched by
16:07
nearly 15 million people. In
16:10
real time. It was the kind of
16:12
show for which there were weekly viewing parties.
16:15
Everyone seemed to be watching it, from supporting
16:18
characters on Seinfeld to the slackers
16:20
of reality bites. Melrose bites
16:22
is a really good show. Can you
16:24
list a few of your favorite zany,
16:27
ludicrous plot developments on Melrose? Well
16:29
I think the one that everybody
16:30
remembers, and certainly
16:33
the one that I really loved, was
16:36
Kimberly, the character played by Marsha
16:38
Cross,
16:39
getting killed. Which
16:41
first of all was a big deal. Oh god no. Call 911.
16:44
Call 911. Call 911. Call 911.
16:48
Call 911. Call 911. Call 911.
16:50
Call 911. Call 911. Call 911.
16:54
Call 911. Call 911. Call 911.
16:57
Call 911. Call 911. Call 911.
17:00
Call 911.
17:01
Call 911. Call 911. You really know what
17:04
I'm talking to you about? What's going on? Is that Kimberly?
17:06
Why is she back? What's happening? And
17:09
she walks into the bathroom and she has this beautiful
17:11
red hair and she pulls
17:13
off her wig. This is very
17:15
dramatic. She takes her fingers and pulls it off her and she
17:18
has a shaved head and a
17:20
huge, extremely dramatic scar
17:22
on the side.
17:26
I was at a party with other people and people just
17:28
like. Screamed with delight.
17:31
Like you know, we laugh but we gasped.
17:34
I mean it was, which is the kind
17:36
of, the laughing and gasping at the same
17:38
time is exactly the reaction
17:41
that makes a prime time soap a hit.
17:45
One thing Melrose was not, however,
17:47
was especially political. The closest
17:50
they got to any kind of political statement
17:52
was a character named Matt, who was gay
17:55
and out of the closet and not
17:57
much else. Is that gay? Yeah,
18:00
what about it? I don't think I die.
18:02
I'm just not used to seeing somebody so upfront about
18:04
it. Oh gosh, I'm late for surgery, man. Matt,
18:07
the gay character who rarely has a boyfriend
18:09
and barely has a personality, is
18:12
a perfect summation of the show's point
18:14
of view. Just daring enough
18:16
to get attention, but not enough to actually
18:18
risk turning off viewers.
18:21
So Melrose was not only a gargantuan
18:23
rating success overseen by a powerful
18:25
name brand producer, it was politically
18:28
pretty timid. And the gala committee's
18:30
whole project was explicitly, if slyly,
18:33
political. But the committee
18:35
was undeterred, as in any good heist
18:38
they just needed an inside man. Or,
18:41
as it turned out, an inside woman. We
18:44
were watching Melrose Place and we noticed in
18:46
the credits the name Deborah Segal came
18:49
up as the set decorator. John LaPointe,
18:51
one of the earliest members of the gala committee,
18:53
again. We grabbed the phone book and
18:56
lo and behold Deborah Segal was listed. So
18:59
we called Deborah Segal.
19:01
He called me a few times
19:03
and I ignored him.
19:05
Deborah Segal now goes by Deborah
19:07
Segal Constantino. We connected
19:09
on a spotty telephone line to talk about
19:11
her time at Melrose. She told
19:14
me that when she finally stopped ignoring Melchin's
19:16
calls, it turned out the project's politics,
19:19
its interest in product placement and virality
19:21
were right up her alley. Can
19:24
you tell me about that?
19:25
Well, I was very leftist active
19:28
person. I felt that
19:31
Melrose Place was not
19:34
in line with my belief.
19:36
And so instead of saying no to this wacky
19:38
project, she said, free art and
19:41
I don't have to pay royalties for it and it looks
19:43
interesting and its left wing, bring
19:46
it. Alright, this just got a little weird and
19:48
real. It was like, oh shit, this
19:50
is bad.
20:00
With the project to go, things had to move
20:03
from theoretical to actual very
20:05
fast. The committee began to get
20:07
grants and started bringing in outside
20:10
artists to contribute.
20:11
I was sitting in
20:13
my home office
20:16
and the phone
20:17
rang. Constance Penley is
20:19
an artist and media theorist who currently
20:21
teaches at UC Santa Barbara.
20:23
Thirty seconds into telling
20:26
me about the project, I
20:29
said, I get it, I'm in.
20:31
They
20:31
would contact many artists
20:34
this way and so the gala
20:36
committee swelled. From a dozen students
20:38
to over a hundred participants, people
20:40
joined from other states too. They
20:42
would eventually draw a map of the United States
20:45
with the gala committee's activities on it that
20:47
looks like a swirl of arrows chasing
20:50
each other around the country. We would just start
20:52
brainstorming
20:54
and sending sketches
20:57
to gala members at
20:59
the University of Georgia where Mel was. Get
21:02
notes back from them and brainstorm
21:05
a piece. Because so few of them
21:07
have email, all of this happened over
21:09
fax machine. And then maybe
21:12
it would go off to Grand Arts
21:15
in Kansas City to be fabricated
21:18
and then get sent back,
21:21
you know, to
21:22
CalArts. CalArts happened to be
21:24
right next to where Melrose Place was shot.
21:27
During
21:30
this period, they designed some of the pieces we
21:32
mentioned earlier. The float for Melrose's
21:34
pool that looked like a sperm about to fertilize
21:36
an egg. The viral clock. They
21:39
also designed and fabricated a piece called
21:41
Safety Sheets created by students in
21:43
the textile department at the University of Georgia.
21:46
You can see it in multiple episodes
21:48
of the show, but it's especially noticeable
21:51
in an episode called Run, Billy,
21:53
Run.
21:53
Please.
21:59
Favorite time. Any
22:02
morning but this one. During
22:04
this episode, Lothario Dr. Peter
22:07
Barnes and his current lover wake up
22:09
in his apartment. And if you
22:11
know what you're looking for, you can
22:13
see that the pattern on his sheets is
22:16
unrolled condoms. At
22:18
the time, the FCC wouldn't allow unrolled
22:21
condoms to be shown on air. John
22:23
LaPointe again. That was the moon landing
22:26
as I like to call it. That was that was the first like, oh,
22:28
my God, it's actually happening.
22:32
Safety sheets was important because until
22:35
then, it wasn't totally clear to the gala
22:37
committee what was happening. They
22:39
sent the pieces off, but they didn't know how
22:42
or if they would be used until they
22:44
saw them show up on television. And we
22:46
would gather in a bar and had a pizza joint
22:48
and we watched the show. It largely
22:50
was hit or miss. Actually, it largely was missed
22:53
because you never quite knew, you
22:55
know, what would end up on the cutting room floor. And
22:57
lots of pieces did. Even the
22:59
ones that made it onto TV like the viral
23:02
clock and the sperm pool float were pretty
23:04
hard to see. But several months
23:06
into the project, this haphazard relationship
23:08
got more serious. It was thanks
23:11
to a piece called Total Proof.
23:13
Now, I want to go all out on this. Radio
23:15
and print ads, the best coverage and quality.
23:18
D&D is going to make sure that this is the most successful
23:20
new club this year.
23:21
D&D was cutthroat,
23:23
fictional advertising firm many characters
23:26
on Melrose Place worked for. The
23:28
Gallant committee often designed posters
23:30
that represented D&D's work. Total
23:33
Proof was one of these posters and it was a parody
23:35
of Absolute Vodka's ubiquitous 1990s
23:38
print ad campaign. So you
23:41
may remember these. They all show a bottle
23:43
of Absolute Vodka, but with some variation
23:45
to it that was then reflected in the ads
23:48
text, like a bottle would be drawn
23:50
by Keith Haring and say Absolute
23:52
Haring underneath it. Or it would have
23:54
a halo over it with the slogan Absolute
23:56
Perfection. The Gallant committee's
23:59
version Well, it was an
24:01
aerial photograph of the wreckage of the Oklahoma
24:04
City bombing, which at that point was
24:06
the largest and deadliest terrorist attack
24:08
on U.S. soil. And it had happened
24:10
less than a year earlier. The
24:13
committee took that photograph and
24:15
photoshopped it to be in the shape of a liquor
24:17
bottle with the slogan, Total
24:19
Proof, underneath it. This was these
24:21
stealth culture jamming we're hacking, basically,
24:24
at this point. And, like, tihi-hi,
24:26
they don't know what we're doing. Total Proof
24:28
was the gala committee at its cultured jammiest,
24:31
a provocative spit-take on a popular
24:34
ad campaign highlighting how capitalism
24:36
can commodify anything. But
24:39
unlike the other gala committee work to this
24:41
point, Total Proof did not go
24:44
unnoticed by the powers that be at
24:46
Melrose Place.
24:56
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Total Proof, the vodka ad with the
25:33
Oklahoma City bombing on it, made its
25:35
way onto set for the shooting of Season
25:38
4's 26th episode called Triumph
25:41
of the Bill. Before filming
25:43
began for the day, a crew member noticed
25:45
it. The
25:46
line producer at the time had
25:49
seen it and
25:51
objected and took it down. Mike
25:53
South was a writer and executive producer on
25:55
Melrose Place. This
26:00
is why I did it and shoot,
26:03
I was really enthusiastic. It
26:05
turns out that prior to being a writer
26:07
for television, Frank South was actually
26:10
a performance artist who himself
26:12
had been part of a collective running
26:14
a gallery and performance space in downtown
26:16
New York. When Deborah
26:18
told him about the project, not only was
26:21
he down to let the Total Proof poster appear
26:23
on air, he was down to meet with Mel
26:25
Chin. They had lunch, hit
26:27
it off, and Frank decided to loop
26:29
the gala committee into the production process
26:32
of the show, though not his
26:34
boss, the show's mastermind, Aaron
26:37
Spelling. I always intended to tell Aaron
26:39
about it,
26:40
you know, what I was doing, but at one point,
26:43
I decided not to, because it was getting so integral.
26:47
You know, I just like that old thing. You
26:49
know, apologize, don't ask permission. Everything
26:55
immediately got more collaborative. Melrose
26:58
Place's production team became so intertwined
27:01
with the project that they would eventually be added
27:03
to the official list of gala committee members.
27:06
The project also got more daring, pointed,
27:09
and ambitious. The artists knew
27:11
their work would air and they could help implement
27:14
onsite installations. So,
27:16
for example, the committee went to the set
27:19
of shooters, the bar where the characters
27:21
drink, and replaced all the labels
27:23
on the alcohol bottles with text relating
27:26
the history of agribusiness, alcohol,
27:28
and slavery in America. They
27:30
designed an ad campaign for the character Billy
27:33
called Family Values that featured
27:35
silhouettes of same-sex couples with children.
27:38
Building off of the success of Safety Sheets,
27:40
they created that quilt we talked about earlier,
27:42
the one with the chemical formula for the abortion
27:45
pill printed on it at a time when reproductive
27:47
choice was rarely discussed on TV.
27:50
Gala committee member Constance Penley. For
27:53
two entire
27:54
episodes, we had Allison,
27:56
who was confined to her home with
27:59
a difficult period. pregnancy just
28:01
be draped in this
28:03
beautiful quilt. No arguments.
28:07
We're supposed to be resting and taking care of our kid. Anything
28:10
else is secondary. None of the doctors are,
28:12
not mine. You're right.
28:15
I know. So that was our
28:17
way to
28:18
be able to get speech about reproductive choice
28:20
back onto
28:24
network television.
28:26
One of their most audacious pieces, food
28:29
for thought hid in the most unlikely and ubiquitous
28:33
of places. And what about the Chinese
28:35
takeout bags? Can you talk a little bit about that? Because
28:38
knowing of the reruns and its
28:41
worldwide syndication and distribution, it
28:44
did not have to be limited
28:46
to English speaking language. And
28:49
so they wrote provocative phrases in
28:51
Mandarin on takeout containers. On
28:54
one, they put the Chinese character for turmoil
28:57
that had been used to describe the Tiananmen square
28:59
protests next to the character for
29:01
human rights. On another, they
29:03
wrote stolen artifacts, national
29:06
treasure, a reference to colonial looting.
29:08
You know, a billion people could read Chinese. The
29:11
idea was having that power to,
29:14
to speak to someone just
29:16
through a casual viewing of a show and
29:18
say, wait a minute. I read Chinese
29:20
and that's a message that is not
29:23
even allowed.
29:28
Eventually, the committee was even asked
29:30
to help flesh out the character of Samantha,
29:33
who's an artist on Melrose Place. Ah,
29:36
it's the painting I gave Craig. You
29:39
steal it, did you? Of
29:42
course not.
29:44
15 of the women who worked on the gala committee
29:48
were flown to grand arts in Kansas
29:50
City to be able to brainstorm
29:54
this new character, but also
29:57
to create
29:57
her artwork.
29:59
Samantha's brightly
30:02
colored art, which was created by gala
30:04
committee members, referenced the sunny
30:06
pools and California landscapes of
30:08
David Hockney, but also contained
30:11
a hidden darkness, the ghostly
30:14
echo of the tragic histories of Los
30:16
Angeles.
30:17
We made our locations be places
30:19
where horrific violence
30:22
had occurred. You
30:23
know, locations where the Manson
30:26
murders occurred, the
30:28
Ambassador Hotel where Robert F. Kennedy
30:30
was assassinated.
30:32
Together, the production staff and
30:34
the gala committee had created dozens
30:36
of covert works of art and hidden
30:38
them in plain sight. Other popular
30:41
primetime entertainment wasn't showing unrolled
30:43
condoms on television or nodding
30:45
at abortion or alluding to the legacy
30:47
of slavery, but a group of scrappy
30:50
artists and a pop cultural phenomenon
30:52
did and reached an audience
30:55
of millions and millions of
30:57
people.
30:58
The only wrinkle was no
31:01
one watching seems to have
31:03
really seen it. After
31:11
placing over a hundred pieces of art on
31:13
Melrose Place over the course of three
31:15
seasons, it finally came time
31:17
for the gala committee to show the world what
31:19
they had been up to. In March
31:21
of 1997, In the Name of the Place opened as part
31:25
of the Museum of Contemporary Art's uncommon
31:28
sense exhibit. They weren't the only
31:30
ones with wild ideas about how to rethink
31:33
the museum show. Karen Finley had
31:36
live nude drawing classes
31:39
going on and Carlson and Mary Ellen
31:41
Strom had a rodeo with a
31:43
live horse in the middle of the
31:46
galleries. Tom Finkelpearl
31:48
is one of the curators of uncommon sense.
31:51
There was a project that included 1.1
31:53
million pounds of
31:55
crushed glass that was installed
31:58
by the sanitation department of LA. The
32:00
museum even let the gala committee
32:03
recreate Shooter's Bar and allowed
32:05
patrons to drink at it.
32:09
Before the show opened at Mocha, the gala
32:11
committee and the staff at Melrose had one
32:13
last hurrah, filming a
32:15
pivotal scene of an episode of Melrose within
32:18
the exhibit of objects that had been
32:20
previously seen on the television
32:22
show. Sorry if I stranded you. No,
32:25
no problem. I'll be taking this exhibit.
32:27
It has some phenomenal pieces. Mel
32:30
is actually in this scene. He's lurking
32:33
in the background, walking through the exhibit
32:35
with Deborah Siegel-Constantino. What
32:37
do you think it means?
32:40
I think it's about a man's journey through war, memory.
32:45
There was a fake director, there was
32:47
a fake museum communications
32:50
officer. There was
32:52
art that wasn't art, but
32:54
it was art. Julie Lazar, co-curator
32:57
of Uncommon Sense, loved that Melrose
32:59
placed films at the museum. It raised
33:02
all the central questions of the exhibit
33:04
itself.
33:05
I thought it was fantastic because it parallels
33:09
was the work that was on the screen
33:11
and set behind the actors' art.
33:14
When was it art? Was it on the
33:17
television show or was it when they came to the gallery
33:19
and it was hanging behind
33:21
them?
33:22
Clearly the gallerists, the gala
33:25
committee, and the Melrose production team were
33:27
having fun. But once Uncommon
33:29
Sense was open to the public, not
33:31
everyone was amused. The show got like
33:34
exceedingly bad reviews.
33:36
Actually, there's words that are
33:39
just burned into my consciousness.
33:42
Those words come from the New York Times's Roberta
33:45
Smith, in a review that was titled
33:47
A Lot to See, but Not an Artwork
33:49
in Sight. She said of gala's
33:52
work that it has the raw, discombobulated
33:55
feeling of a group show of young,
33:57
undeveloped artists. said
34:00
in that review also, which is also sort of true,
34:03
is that it seems like the most
34:05
profound and interesting or something like that experience
34:08
happened before the show opened. Asking
34:10
questions about art's purpose and methods of
34:12
creation doesn't always result in
34:14
work that people enjoy. Or
34:17
even notice. Did you happen to notice
34:20
that with some regularity, Melrose
34:23
used very, very odd
34:26
props and set pieces that
34:28
had actually been designed by an
34:31
experimental art collective? I
34:33
would love to claim that I did notice
34:35
that because it's a fascinating,
34:38
completely bizarre piece of
34:41
Melrose plays history, but no. The answer
34:43
to that question is no. I had
34:46
no awareness of this whatsoever.
34:49
In fact, almost anyone who heard
34:52
about the experiment only learned about
34:54
it after the fact. In the art reviews
34:56
of the show and in an article for The New Yorker,
34:59
this was even true when it came to
35:01
the head honcho of Melrose plays. Frank
35:04
South, the producer and writer who embraced the
35:06
project, was at the office early one morning
35:09
when Aaron Spelling summoned him. When
35:11
did you know this was going on?
35:21
Spelling
35:22
wasn't known for bursts
35:25
of rage, but Frank could see
35:28
he wasn't happy.
35:31
He
35:47
said, I don't want anything that
35:49
would ever harm this show.
35:59
One of the things he said is, who pays for all this
36:02
shit?
36:02
Where does it all come from? Who spanks? Are
36:05
we paying for this? This isn't in our budget. And
36:07
it's no. It's a
36:09
money-saving operation.
36:11
It's for free.
36:13
And that mollified
36:16
him a little.
36:19
I asked the people I spoke to about
36:21
the work's initial invisibility.
36:24
And at the time, were they hoping people
36:26
might notice?
36:27
Of course. Sure.
36:29
They're not real. But this is commonplace
36:31
with art. Some of it connects with the public,
36:34
and most of it doesn't. It's just, you
36:36
don't usually get it in front of an audience
36:38
of 15 million people to begin with. In
36:41
the name of the place closed in the summer of 1997. Two
36:45
years later, Melrose Place went off
36:47
the air. It seemed that, like a
36:49
lot of interesting art projects, in the name
36:51
of the place was destined to be forgotten by
36:54
everyone other than the Galla Committee. But
36:57
then, one of the committee's original
36:59
inspirations turned out to be more
37:01
apt than they could have anticipated. It's
37:04
about patients like a virus entering
37:08
your world. It takes time for
37:10
it to just take. The project
37:12
gradually took on a new life. Not
37:15
on TV, not to millions of people,
37:18
but a new life nonetheless. In 1998,
37:21
the objects from in the name of the place were auctioned
37:24
off by Sotheby's, with the proceeds going
37:26
to charity. The project was exhibited
37:28
in Korea and Kansas City and New
37:30
Orleans. In the
37:32
fall of 2016, Red
37:34
Bull Gallery in New York, itself an experimenter-branded,
37:37
branded content by an energy drink, remounted
37:40
in the name of the place, and this time, the
37:43
reviews were good. For
37:45
John Lapointe, this kind of baton passing
37:47
is immensely gratifying. I mean, that's
37:50
the whole tradition of art, is just passing
37:52
on as a conversation. It's constantly built upon itself.
38:00
less purchased than ever before, but
38:02
in the name of the place, is still
38:04
replicating. It didn't go viral
38:07
in the sense of finding immediate widespread popularity,
38:10
but it wound up being viral in
38:12
the sense of slowly reaching more
38:14
and more hosts and spreading itself
38:17
throughout the ecosystem. First
38:20
it lived in the minds of artists, and then
38:22
it jumped to the people making a TV show,
38:24
and then to articles in magazines and newspapers,
38:27
and then to museums around the world, and
38:30
then most of all to the internet, where
38:32
Melrose Place and all the work it contained
38:35
is just a few clicks away. Now
38:38
it has infected its latest host, this
38:41
show, and it continues to spread
38:44
to you. Go take
38:46
a look for yourself, and then,
38:49
you know, pass it on.
38:51
Yeah, it's weird to just go, stop. It's
38:54
like, like you emailed me the other
38:56
day, like, okay, here we go again.
39:08
This is Decoder Ring. I'm Isaac
39:10
Butler.
39:11
And I'm Willip Haskin. If you have any cultural
39:13
mysteries you want us to decode, please email us
39:16
at DecoderRing at Slate.com.
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This episode was written and
39:20
reported by Isaac Butler. Decoder
39:22
Ring is produced by Willip Haskin and Katie
39:24
Shepard. This episode was produced by
39:27
Benjamin Frisch. Derek John is
39:29
executive producer. Joe Meyer is senior
39:31
editor-producer. Merrick Jacob is senior technical
39:34
director. We'd like to thank Jamie
39:36
Bennett and also JJ Bursch for educating
39:39
Isaac on product placement, Mark Flood
39:41
for sharing his memories of the gala committee,
39:43
and to shout out Cynthia Carr's book, On
39:46
Edge, performance at the end of the 20th
39:48
century, which is where Isaac first heard
39:50
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