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So funky. Welcome

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to another episode of Small Doses Podcast.

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Today, So official.

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Today, we are here to discuss, Discuss.

1:41

Kindness. Kindness. With an

1:44

ambassador of kindness, Yvette

1:47

Nicole Brown. Hello! Muppet,

1:49

yo. And I really

1:51

feel like, you know, your character on

1:53

Community was like the epitome of,

1:56

I mean, Shady kindness. She was, surely wasn't

1:59

all that. Surely wasn't! I

2:01

mean, I think she thinks that she was, but she

2:03

had a little bite. She was a little nice tea.

2:06

A little bit. Are we allowed to

2:08

talk about shows? We're not

2:10

promoting it. It's not even on air anymore. That's true. Do

2:12

I think that I'm nice tea in real life? Yeah. No,

2:17

I'm actually really kind. I, I

2:20

will though I'm from East Cleveland. So

2:22

I have to, I will cut you. I will cut

2:24

you. Now this is nice. I think nice tea is

2:26

like, it's like you

2:28

can't be kind and nice. No, no. Nice tea is you're

2:30

not nice. You're, if you're nice tea, you're

2:32

a mean person trying to pretend to

2:34

be nice. We all know people like

2:36

that. I do. So that's not good.

2:39

No, but if you're nice, but

2:41

honest and to the point, like my thing is you don't

2:43

get the fever unless you deserve the fever. And

2:45

even if you get the fever, it's going to be not

2:47

precious. Now look, my mother, don't

2:50

come at mother like that. My mother loves

2:52

you. Don't say, watch your tongue. It'll be

2:54

that. It won't be, it'll be

2:56

the Tabitha Brown type of gathering and not

2:58

the, you know, I appreciate also that Tabitha

3:01

Brown's type of gathering has become like a

3:03

branded type of gathering. Listen,

3:06

there's a bit, I'm not going

3:08

to say it's not on purpose, but it's a

3:10

bit of a curse in her. When she gathers

3:12

you, your life's going to change. And not in

3:14

a good way, because if you have to get

3:17

gathered by Tabitha, you have done something fair.

3:19

She's not just gathering people. She's gathering the people that

3:21

need to be gathered. And she's raising those that weren't

3:23

raised correctly by their mamas. And she just come over

3:25

here. Let me go and give you a little something

3:27

to help you on your way. But there's a bit

3:29

of a curse, a blessed curse, but she's a blessed

3:32

curse. Now you had hit me

3:34

and you were like, I want to do small doses.

3:36

I'm like, it's overdue anyway. So yes, I meant to

3:38

bring my book for you to sign. I knew I

3:40

forgot something. So good. I was going

3:42

to say, we have access. But my

3:44

question to you is you, you specifically

3:46

asked about doing side effects of kindness.

3:48

What is it about this topic that

3:50

spoke to you? You know, I

3:52

think that the world is mean and

3:55

I think we're becoming meaner and I

3:57

think that it is okay to chase your

3:59

dreams. be all that you want to be, but you

4:01

don't have to shank people as you go. And

4:03

so I think it's important to, especially with

4:06

you, with the platform you have, to talk about

4:08

it so right to be nice, to people and take care of

4:10

people. We ain't got to be so hateful. At

4:12

this point in the show, I'm going to play this clip

4:14

from Dr. Cornel West, who is running for president. That's not

4:16

what this is about. This is a ... That's

4:19

not what this is about. But he has this

4:21

quote about James Baldwin that I want you

4:23

to hear right now. We know here's

4:25

somebody who's committed to intellectual integrity, committed

4:27

to a moral honesty. Remember he says

4:30

at the end of the notes of

4:32

a native son in the introduction, all

4:35

I ever want to be is an

4:37

honest man and who, like

4:39

him in way, endures in my work.

4:42

Now, you see, in an age of

4:44

mendacity and criminality, which is our own,

4:46

just telling the truth and having integrity is

4:49

revolutionary. It's subversive. It's

4:51

counter-cultural. Baldwin comes

4:53

back, bringing

4:56

this rich tradition of

4:58

eloquence, truth-telling, witness-bearing, soul-stirring

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writing. Basically the clip is, in

5:06

this world of mendacity, which is

5:08

meanness, he says it is revolutionary

5:13

to choose kindness and

5:15

that James Baldwin was somebody who chose

5:18

kindness and love for his people. That's

5:21

the quote. I love that you defined mendacity for me

5:23

because this is the thing, some of your words you

5:25

do need to define. I didn't know what that was. There's

5:28

someone like, please, the story of the man

5:30

is the way that a man is saved. Well,

5:34

I just think that it's

5:36

really true that there is something

5:39

revolutionary to choosing kindness. Yeah, because I

5:41

think that people believe that kindness equals

5:43

weakness and no one wants to be

5:45

seen as a weakling. So when you

5:48

choose kindness, now they're wrong. Right.

5:51

They're wrong. Yeah, but they believe that

5:53

it means that if you're a pushover or

5:55

whatever. So for someone to boldly go out and go, now I'm

5:57

going to take care of people and I'm going to make sure everybody's all

5:59

right. And I'm going to be outward facing instead of inward

6:01

facing. I think that is revolutionary and I think it'd be

6:04

better if more people did it I

6:06

think it'd be better as well. It's more people like

6:08

yourself, you know took the time

6:10

to qualify it as not weakness, right? You

6:13

know, I think there's something to be said for meanness actually

6:15

being the truth Weakness, I've

6:17

heard this one. I heard this recent I don't know

6:19

who said it but it was something I'm paraphrasing you

6:21

can tell the strongest person in the room

6:23

because they're the quietest Usually

6:26

when people come in with a lot of saw

6:28

that where you saw Someone

6:30

said that as a speech at a commencement speech

6:32

at Brown University. Ah, ha ha there it is

6:34

I posted it to that's where I got it

6:37

from and I agree with him because I feel

6:39

like the people that come in with all The

6:41

blustery again, look at me and I'm here, you

6:43

know, there's a difference Like for Gary, this is

6:45

nice if you're coming to make sure everybody has

6:47

a good time. That's great Okay, but when you're

6:49

coming in trying to suck the air out of

6:51

the room You need everybody to think you're the

6:53

most important Yeah That's a sign that you feel

6:55

very small if you can enter a room

6:58

and just quietly sit down and enjoy

7:00

the Ambiance without needing to be that

7:02

person. Mm-hmm That's a sign of strength and it's the same

7:04

thing with kindness like the people that are what is the

7:07

Bible says a micheal? And here at the earth the people

7:09

that can come in and be like how you doing? What

7:13

is the look at me? Oh I

7:15

look at me But

7:19

But then how does that apply to the meanest

7:21

part of it all because I think when we

7:23

talk about the meanest thing I think that it's

7:26

become almost like Sexy, it's like it's like fly.

7:28

I feel like we're we watched I

7:30

saw an article the other day that said

7:32

has America gotten more rude if

7:34

you think so You're not alone, but they cited

7:37

it as a result of the pandemic. I Absolutely

7:40

not. I Listen, we

7:42

can get political because you and I can do that. We don't have

7:44

to my way. I'm yeah, I feel like This

7:48

started not he didn't started but he brought

7:50

it back when Donald Trump came Yeah to

7:52

the point where he decided that there were

7:54

no norms He the name calling all of

7:56

that and I think people believe weak people

7:59

believe that and insults

8:01

to sign up a strong man. But yeah, it is a

8:03

strong man, the type of autocratic

8:06

strong man, authoritarian figure, the

8:08

Hitlers, the Putin's. These are not the

8:11

people that you should emulate or admire,

8:14

but the people that are weak until small saw this

8:16

also small man blustering and calling people names. He's a very

8:18

small man in a lot of ways. They said in the

8:21

body parts of smalls, a lot of stuff small about that

8:23

man. Little hands. Little hands.

8:25

Little mouth. Other small

8:27

people saw him as a small man and

8:29

thought, well, he's a, look at him, this guy.

8:31

That's what we have to do. We have to be

8:33

hateful and nasty. When I look at what's

8:36

happened to Congress, when

8:38

I look at what's happened to Congress, it breaks my

8:40

heart. You just see people that we admired and looked

8:42

up to. I don't know if I ever admired and

8:44

looked up to them. Never? No. People

8:47

in Congress, back in the day? No. Oh, I used to always think

8:49

that Congress people had their, excuse me, shit up my shit.

8:52

And they're shit together. but is

8:55

it that you thought that they did, but

8:57

now you know better? Absolutely,

9:00

now I know better. The thing is, I used

9:02

to think as a kid in East Cleveland, I

9:04

saw politics and all of that as lofty goals

9:06

and dreams. And you had to be a better

9:09

person, a smarter person, a kinder

9:11

person to be elected into. Cause I thought you

9:14

were doing it because you cared about people.

9:16

Yeah, I know. Right? And

9:18

what we've learned in the last eight years for sure,

9:21

is that that's not the case. They're in it

9:23

for the money. They're in it for the power.

9:25

They're in it for the wonderful healthcare that they

9:27

don't want anyone else to have. These are the

9:30

things that they're in for. And so once I

9:32

realized that, it broke my heart because I'm like,

9:34

why are horrible people deciding what happens to the

9:36

rest of us? And that's why I've been telling

9:39

people now beyond just saying you

9:41

should vote, I'm now telling people you should run. If

9:43

you are a decent person who cares about other

9:46

people, please run. I don't care what you run

9:48

for, just run for something. I mean, that's the

9:50

start of my documentary of An Amanda Lee Trust.

9:52

Which I love. Oh, thank you. It's

9:54

just this concept of like, do

9:57

not consider these people to be more... Elevated

10:00

and you you know more experienced than

10:02

you in some cases they may be

10:04

yeah But for the most part politics

10:06

at this point doesn't have any guardrail

10:08

none other than do you got money?

10:10

Yeah, that's really the guardrail. And

10:12

I mean the German did all these different

10:14

cities and areas So you

10:16

they're picking their voters. Yes, so now

10:18

we're stuck with because you know, we didn't

10:21

need the voters voting rights act Why do we keep that? Let's

10:23

get rid of that it's a

10:25

very interesting way though to bring kindness into

10:27

this though because I Really feel

10:29

like when people talk about like oh, I don't want to

10:31

vote I don't care about voting voting doesn't matter I

10:34

think that there's a departure from kindness

10:36

that is required for you to feel

10:38

that way Absolutely, because you have to

10:40

know that voting both on a federal

10:42

and local level is gonna affect the

10:44

greater Good you have to

10:46

care about their people, right? This is the thing

10:49

I used to always talk about and I still

10:51

talk about this I don't have kids but anytime

10:53

something comes up for school boards, I vote for

10:55

like if it's more money for schools Yes, because

10:57

it's not about me. It's about Everybody

11:01

when student loan Forgiveness

11:03

came I paid off my I don't even know how I did it when

11:05

I think back on But I pay back

11:07

my student loans when I was in my 20s

11:09

I don't have a problem with other people getting

11:11

a favor. Please my god. This is great I

11:13

hope everybody gets them forgiving because it's some bullshit

11:15

So I don't understand the idea of but I've

11:17

never believed in I've got mine you get yours

11:19

I've always believed that I am my brother's keeper.

11:21

I believe when where did that come from for

11:23

you? My mom raised me and

11:25

my brother to be the helpers. Mr. Rogers

11:27

always talked about one of the helpers Mm-hmm.

11:30

I've always been one of the helpers if something

11:32

is going down. I'm in the room Like how

11:34

can I make this better and I enter a

11:36

room a situation go to an event? How

11:38

can I be of service here? It's

11:41

never look at my outfit. It's never look at me

11:43

It's like who in here needs me when I'm

11:45

on a set I'm like who who needs

11:47

me and I'm there as a if I book a

11:49

job as an actor I believe I'm there as a

11:51

respite I'm there as a safe place for people to

11:53

land and I just sit there and then I look

11:55

and I go okay Let me go talk to Sally

11:58

Sally's having today and I go go with you I

12:00

was at this event at

12:02

um went to the VP's

12:04

hip-hop event last week and there was

12:06

a little baby girl named Patrice She we got there early

12:09

all of us are there milling around a lot of people

12:11

came with people and this little baby She's probably in her

12:13

early 20s was sitting by herself and I

12:15

noticed that no one was talking to her No, and I said is

12:17

it precious? What do you need? precious

12:26

I said baby girl, let me go on sit with Justin She

12:28

said I'm fine and I could tell like her little spirit got

12:30

lifted because no one had spoken to her But

12:32

I'm gonna go in a room and find the person that

12:35

no one's speaking to because anyone's either I just

12:37

think they were with the friends She

12:39

was you know, she came by herself and she was just

12:41

happy to be there and got a tree's coming by

12:43

yourself So she got to roll. I was

12:46

always by myself I

12:48

will roll through anywhere. I'll go to eat go

12:50

to movies go to VP. I bought my tickets

12:52

to usher I

13:01

Know one to text about it. I'll read about it.

13:04

No, we know what it's read about it. I'll see

13:06

but you won't say But you're

13:08

a mom though. I won't say that But

13:13

you're a dog mom And

13:18

I will be wearing it's very pink outfit just

13:20

get up in there we need this gonna have

13:22

your mom I want everybody had a moment with us. I

13:25

don't believe for any second any stretch of time that I

13:27

sure is gonna sing to me But I will be singing

13:31

But I'll sing to usher are we doing this?

13:33

I'll be your girl You

13:36

know when people be doing the video the commercial for

13:38

him Where

13:44

she come go tell him go on for

13:46

the get the deal tell him what see

13:48

Gia Don't put it on he can't get

13:50

your moment. You know y'all please please come

13:52

on. I Never

13:55

met us sure I'm not usher one. I

13:57

think I embarrassed myself. I saw him at the at the board

14:00

I don't have a problem embarrassing myself either because ego I

14:02

know ego resides in this body got you the body is

14:04

like Yeah, I don't do it. So I'll go up to

14:07

anybody if I love your work I will go up to

14:09

you and tell you and if you're kind will have a

14:11

moment if you're not like God bless No, Lee right. See

14:13

I went up to him and I was like, I love

14:15

you. I think you just And

14:22

he was like Oh Hey,

14:27

ma'am, okay, he turned his chair around

14:30

He was very nice. I'm sure he was really

14:32

nice, but I was a goober so whatever So

14:44

you were raised this way, I mean there's

14:46

something very real about simply just that right

14:49

like that there's a Conditioning

14:51

of kindness. Yeah, and how

14:54

that has to be conditioned

14:56

yourself if you didn't come

14:58

up in it Yeah, I just feel like listen

15:01

and I who knows I I feel like some

15:03

people just come here caring about others and some

15:05

people come Here caring about themselves. Isn't that interesting?

15:07

It's it's like in the DNA. It's kind of

15:09

in the DNA Like there's something is it

15:12

necessary this that way like a yin-yang I

15:15

had someone say to me once and this blue

15:17

this broke my heart uh, I

15:19

was working on a set and Season

15:21

of the show and by the end of the season one of

15:23

my cast mates said you're really nice

15:26

and I said And she was like,

15:28

I don't know how to do that and

15:31

I was like I

15:34

think she was right. She did not know how to do it. I

15:36

too have had a similar I was like, well,

15:39

you just look out for people. It's just Care

15:41

about others the way you care about you

15:45

But do they care about themselves see this

15:47

is the Because

15:50

that's the other part I think that there's You

15:53

know kind of like doing

15:55

things to advance like yourself

15:58

in terms of accomplishment but

16:01

not necessarily like loving yourself

16:03

and advancing your character. That's

16:05

a different exercise. I

16:07

was talking to a friend of mine, shout out to Matt, and

16:09

he said something the other day, he's like, you know, Amanda, you

16:13

a good person. So I'm glad

16:15

you happy because good people deserve to be happy. Hard

16:18

workers deserve to make money. Good people

16:20

deserve to be happy. Just because you're working hard,

16:22

don't make you a good person. And just because you're a

16:24

good person don't mean you're working hard. Dang,

16:27

I'm like, I need a diagram. Where's the syllabus?

16:30

Listen, carry the two money fries. I have

16:32

a whole list of Macisms. I have

16:34

a whole list of Macisms. It's Mac online because

16:36

I need to follow that. Another famous Macism is

16:39

shame on your parents for how they did you

16:41

back in the day, but shame on you for

16:43

staying that way. There

16:46

it is though. There it is. Another

16:48

classic, there's only victims and volunteers. That's

16:52

the one that the victim- It's Mac online, I gotta

16:54

follow him. He is not, but that'll get

16:56

you in your neck. Yo. There's only

16:58

victims and volunteers. And at a certain point,

17:01

you ain't the victim no more, baby. I

17:03

just told a friend that too. I told

17:05

a friend going through a breakup. So I don't know if

17:07

they're breaking up or not. I don't know what's going on. But

17:09

I told him, I said, listen, there's only so many

17:11

times, if you're gonna keep eating

17:13

poison, there's only so many times I

17:15

can pump your stomach. After a

17:18

while, I have to assume that you want to

17:20

take the poison. And then I'm gonna leave you

17:22

to it. You enjoy that- I

17:24

don't want to get in the way- I don't want to stop you

17:27

from drinking your poison. So go on, go keep

17:29

going back to that foolishness. So

17:31

yeah, and at a certain point, you can't blame the

17:33

other person after a while. It's you,

17:36

because you keep going back. And you'll tell

17:38

yourself, I'm going back because I'm a kind

17:40

person. I'm giving this person great. No, no, no, no.

17:42

You gotta be kind to yourself too. You gotta put your

17:44

own oxygen mask on first. And somebody

17:46

is intent on destroying you.

17:50

Stealing your joy, murdering

17:52

your spirit. Friend, family, lover.

17:54

Get out of here! So

17:57

sing about it though. It brings us back to the young

17:59

lady who said to you like- do you do that? I

18:01

really think there are a lot of people who simply

18:04

feed off of negatives. And

18:07

it's related to trauma that

18:09

they experienced when they were younger. So chemically,

18:11

it is feeding them, it's an addiction. And

18:14

so they will create that, you know, like,

18:16

there would be times with my ex where

18:18

it's like, we had so much joy, but

18:21

you still felt compelled to try and create

18:23

an argument because it was like you couldn't

18:25

abide in the joy couldn't, you couldn't because

18:27

you needed that to kind of just like

18:29

feel comfortable. And that's unfortunate, right? And when

18:31

you see that you're like, Dan, that sucks

18:33

for you that you have to have this

18:35

like turn of events in order for you

18:37

to feel comfortable. Yeah. And I

18:40

think a lot of people, they just

18:42

simply feel more comfortable in discomfort with

18:44

this, then transfer on

18:46

to you. Yeah, I think also, if you

18:48

as a child did not get what you

18:51

needed, and you wanted things and

18:53

you needed things, you didn't get them, I think

18:55

at a certain point, you stop dreaming that it's

18:57

possible for you. So when you get into a

18:59

relationship with someone that is giving you the love

19:01

that you never got, in your mind,

19:04

this is not going to last. Let me torpedo it

19:06

before it dies. But

19:08

I'm fine. Don't do that. And it's sad.

19:10

And this is why I tell everybody that's

19:13

about narcissism. Absolutely. My whole thing is find

19:15

find a therapist, get on some meds,

19:18

talk to somebody, you know, what that second

19:20

part is a part that's really tough for

19:22

some people, you know, man? Yeah, because in

19:24

their mind, it's like it's because it feels

19:26

like asking for help, or it feels like

19:28

a number one, something. And I think we're

19:30

still we were getting much better at getting

19:32

over the stigma of therapy. But you know,

19:34

some people need meds. If you didn't get

19:36

what you needed, you may need something to

19:39

help your brain get into the space. I

19:41

tell everybody I have diabetes. And so I'm

19:43

on that format for my diabetes. I thank God it's not

19:45

insulin. But if it was insulin, I'd be taking that. There

19:48

is nothing. This is a computer. This

19:50

is a machine that was made. At

19:53

various factories, some of the factories were

19:55

eating their bananas and whatever some of

19:57

the factories were smoking, calm all. So

19:59

sometimes Your factory did not push out

20:01

you the way exact way that you could have

20:03

been there optimal Yeah So that means sometimes there

20:06

might be some synapses that aren't firing in your

20:08

brain in the same way My pancreas is like

20:10

can't do it. It is right can't

20:12

do it So I don't

20:14

feel a stigma about taking my metformin to

20:16

make sure that I have the proper glucose

20:18

balance in my body So why should someone

20:20

feel crazy or weird about taking a pill

20:22

that helps the balance in their head? I

20:25

mean they shouldn't they should it you shouldn't

20:27

it's it's there to help you Get

20:30

the help You know, I know

20:33

Listen, there's side effects and you know, yeah, but

20:35

you find that you find the right doses to

20:37

work for you You have to be

20:39

committed to you,

20:42

right? You have to be committed to like I Want

20:45

to experience joy? Yes, so I

20:47

need to take pathways to that right? It's

20:49

a maze, right? So sometimes I'm gonna hit

20:51

a wall and I got to come back

20:53

and try a different route, right? That are

20:55

us, you know, and I think that's the

20:58

thing that when we talk about

21:00

kindness to yourself You have to

21:02

have the willingness to give yourself the grace that

21:04

I might hit a wall I have to come

21:06

back and it's okay and it's okay. It's not

21:08

a fail. Hey, it's not a fail. I think

21:11

Life is hard and I think the reason that

21:14

this is something that hit me recently maybe in the

21:16

last five or six years We

21:19

spend our whole lives thinking that life is

21:21

about joy and flowers and whatever Life

21:24

is about loss and toughness,

21:26

right? There's going to be more mountains

21:28

to climb More valley

21:31

moments then then top of the

21:33

mountain moments, right? And I

21:35

think if you walk through life believing that

21:37

and understanding that then when you get your

21:39

teeth kicked in It's not the most devastating

21:41

thing ever because you're not that you're expecting

21:43

it to be hard But you're

21:45

aware that it's going to be hard when

21:47

we're told that it's gonna be great. You gotta get out there No,

21:51

sometimes you're gonna break up with people you're

21:53

gonna lose jobs you're gonna lose friendship This

21:55

is what life is. So find your people

21:57

that you can link arms with that will

21:59

remind you of how lovely it can

22:01

be when it's hard and try to be

22:03

a soft place for people to land knowing

22:06

that Everybody is struggling on any given day.

22:08

That's just part of place. How have

22:10

you remained? That

22:13

within an industry that

22:15

tries so hard to harden us because

22:18

I know who I am and my Self-worth

22:22

never came from this industry. I

22:24

came in this in this industry going I want to

22:26

do one commercial one-sit-cuff I was like if I

22:28

do that in Cleveland People

22:31

in Cleveland be like That's

22:33

all you need right? So my

22:35

ego and my self-worth and my

22:37

my purpose is not tied into

22:40

What this industry gives me or takes away from

22:42

me? So I don't have to elbow people and

22:44

shank people and lie on people and stab people

22:46

in the back I always said when

22:48

I enter the moment I have to go forward without Jesus.

22:50

I ain't going for If I

22:52

gotta change who I am or Do

22:55

someone dirty? Yeah get ahead. May I not

22:57

get the show or the movie or the

23:00

commercial or whatever? I don't want this more

23:02

than I want to be a decent person

23:05

That is most important to me when I die whenever

23:07

that is I want people to speak kindly of me

23:09

I want people to be like that Yvette was all

23:11

right with me. You know what I'm saying? I want

23:13

my name to be sweet on people's tongue. I don't

23:16

want people to be like that Yvette No,

23:18

so every single day I endeavor to be

23:21

the kind of person that if I were

23:23

to die that day It'd be people crying

23:26

instead of rejoicing now

23:28

what do you say In

23:30

response to because as sweet

23:32

as you are again You will kick people

23:34

in their neck when they come sideways like

23:37

on the internet. Absolutely on the internet Absolutely.

23:39

So for people who might be like, well,

23:41

that's not kind Praying that for

23:43

people. Well, I recently I now i'm

23:45

gonna say a name and drop a name I went back and forth with

23:47

eddie glott online. Oh, it was like three

23:50

or four days With the it

23:52

was an opus and I will go in again with

23:55

my yes my issue with eddie is this

23:58

When he had the opportunity to

24:00

encourage people to vote for Hillary Clinton.

24:03

He said that he was gonna leave the

24:06

presidential spot empty because he

24:08

said he was in a safe space, a safe city

24:10

and didn't matter. When that black man

24:12

knows, when that black man knows, and

24:15

Eddy, you know, you know, that black man

24:17

knows that is important for every black person to

24:19

show up and vote Democratic, especially that year because

24:21

of what we were facing. Right?

24:24

So now he's

24:26

on television, talking about how far we

24:28

fought. He can't believe that

24:31

we're in such a bad place as a nation and that

24:33

Donald Trump, yo, you were talking about Donald Trump? When you

24:35

told people. Do you wanna hear the I.A.V. real quick? Remember

24:38

that clip we played at the beginning? Yeah. When

24:42

Eddy was on the podcast, it was to

24:44

talk about his book about James Baldwin. Look

24:48

at my face, everybody. You

24:50

got to go to the YouTube, Amanda Seals

24:52

TV to see her face. Let me tell

24:54

you something. Hey. Let me tell you something about it,

24:57

and it annoys me about it. How

24:59

dare you take

25:01

a stance that will hurt

25:03

black people ultimately, and women ultimately,

25:06

and then get up and try to say,

25:08

oh, we've let each other down. No,

25:11

no, sir. Did he take any

25:13

accountability? Absolutely not. First he called

25:15

me ridiculous. Then he called, then

25:17

he said, if I would read a book, why

25:20

do you do that? Why do you

25:22

do that? He said, if I would read a book, I

25:24

think, but what he meant was if I would read his book.

25:27

Because what I said to him was, sir, every

25:30

time you go on television to speak, the first thing you should

25:32

say is don't be like me. I

25:34

made a terrible mistake in 2016. Learn

25:37

from my mistake. Every hen in the hen

25:39

house show up and vote Democratic, because we're

25:41

about to lose our democracy. Like do what

25:43

Bernie's doing kind of thing. Well, this is

25:45

kind of. Kind of. Kind of.

25:47

But this is my thing. If you do that, you lose

25:49

nothing, sir. You still get to be the

25:51

smartest person in the room, because you've shown that you've learned.

25:54

But as long as you keep making excuses

25:56

for that idiotic stance

25:58

you took. That

26:00

was, that wasn't sharp. Dude, you get the gas

26:03

face from me. I don't care. Can

26:05

we get an example of the gas face?

26:07

Mm-hmm. There it is. I don't

26:09

care what he thinks of me. I don't care what he

26:11

thinks of me speaking up about him. And I'm gonna tap

26:14

back in. Wait, wait. I'm gonna tap back in. See, that's

26:16

like, when I die, I don't care if you not crying. I

26:18

don't care. Let me tell you something. Anybody

26:20

listen. The racist should be celebrating when I die.

26:23

The idiotic black people that take bad stances, that tell black people

26:25

not to vote, y'all should be rejoicing because I'm gonna keep a

26:27

boot on your neck until

26:30

Jesus calls me home. This is very important. Voting

26:32

is important. Black people voting is important. And we

26:34

need to all vote Democratic right now. You don't got

26:36

to like the person. We've seen what

26:38

these doggone Republicans have been doing. This

26:40

is the indignation you feel. This is kindness

26:43

and love because I care about our country.

26:45

I care about our democracy and I care

26:47

about black people. So anybody

26:49

that comes against those things, you're getting it. Well,

26:52

you know, then you have people who feel like, well,

26:54

the Democrats need to earn our vote and idiot. Idiot.

26:57

Okay, here's the thing. You

27:00

have to stop

27:02

looking at the process

27:04

that we're in right now as

27:06

a personal process. Exactly. Come

27:09

on. We are not voting for

27:11

a person. We're voting for a path

27:13

forward. That's right. And at this juncture,

27:15

in the comprehensive view of where we

27:17

are, this is

27:20

unfortunately where we are. And there's how things should

27:22

be and how things are. But

27:24

we can't get to how they should

27:27

be without doing the right move strategically

27:29

in the R scenario. And

27:31

if you don't like it,

27:34

the time to fight for your candidate and a

27:37

change is the day after the election. You

27:40

got four years to celebrate

27:42

and support whoever you want. But they

27:45

always come about 18 months

27:47

before an election. The 18th hour. Yeah. This

27:50

is where the Cornel West and the third party, Robert

27:52

Johnny, all these Robert down to do Robert Kennedy. Okay.

27:56

You know, I'm so, so it's all

27:58

going on. I'm talking

28:00

about. They come at the time when it's not,

28:02

it's not play time. We let's

28:04

not talk about what the Democrats could do

28:06

now. Have we been hearing

28:09

about Cornell running for office since Biden

28:12

was elected? Nope. He

28:14

didn't start this mess. It's not

28:16

mess. Cause we had Marianne Williamson on here. You

28:19

did? Yeah. Very unimpressed.

28:22

I was very unimpressed. Listen, here's the thing. People

28:24

have ideas, right? Ideas,

28:27

ideologies, but they don't

28:29

have plans and they

28:31

don't have insightful ways to

28:33

make the system that's

28:36

already in place, either work for them or

28:38

ways that they can actively dismantle the system.

28:40

Now I'm not saying that they should come

28:42

out here and be like, well, here's how

28:44

I'm going to do it. Because of course,

28:46

if you do that, you know, you're telling,

28:48

you're showing all your cards, but I also

28:50

feel like it's a lot of lack of

28:53

vision and more so delusion. And

28:55

more so delusion. And also

28:57

a grandeur. You

29:00

go start at president. Can

29:02

you start as an older man? Can you go

29:04

to Congress? You're

29:06

going to come up with and say you

29:08

want to be president. I know. Cornell. Nobody

29:11

came to see you. Nobody came to

29:13

see you. Don't go

29:15

on it. Who made me so mad. I don't know what to

29:17

do, but this is the thing. This is the thing though. This

29:20

comes from my love. This

29:23

is the sign that you know, you

29:25

talk to somebody and get there. For

29:28

years, people have been like, Amanda Seals

29:30

is mean based on your, your passion.

29:32

It there's a difference between mean and

29:35

passionate. You care. I really do.

29:37

You care. And this is the thing when we

29:39

get like this, they think we're the angry black women. I'm

29:41

passionate about this. I literally have sharks that

29:43

say I'm not hot. I'm just passionate. Passionate.

29:47

And you know, I ain't never had problems with you.

29:49

Ditto. Never. I've enjoyed

29:51

your shenanigans. Shenanis. All of

29:54

them. Well, you know, it's very, you know,

29:56

real, recognized, real. Absolutely. The

30:04

other part of it is that I feel like

30:06

what we are often doing is trying to convince

30:09

people to love themselves and

30:12

make choices that are rational

30:14

and logical. And then we

30:16

get yelled at or

30:19

we get dismissed, you know, people dismissed

30:21

because they're like, well, you

30:23

don't tell me what to do. And

30:25

it's like, I feel so lucky that I

30:28

have been guided and informed

30:30

by people who knew what the fuck they were talking about.

30:32

And I don't mind someone telling me what they

30:34

know what they're talking about. But we have

30:36

blue checks and so we can't know what

30:38

we're talking about. Because that's the other thing

30:40

they love to say, like, stop listening to

30:42

celebrities. They don't know what they're talking about.

30:44

And it's like, okay, well, Ice Cube doesn't

30:46

know what he's talking about. But

30:49

I think there's a certain point and forgive me,

30:51

I don't, it's almost like

30:54

a certain point. I know

30:56

that they're like, I thought that was a side effect of kindness. It is.

30:59

It is. Listen, it is. We're

31:01

going to digress. We're going to be together and get political because

31:03

that's what we do. But I believe there's

31:05

a certain point. I don't know what that

31:07

number is where rich people, rich

31:09

black people stop being black and

31:12

they just slip to being rich people. And

31:15

I feel like that's what we're finding whenever it's

31:17

time for an election and people start trotting out,

31:19

you should go with the Republicans or Donald

31:21

Trump. It's always people that are

31:23

no longer in touch with what the

31:25

struggle is because they know that their

31:27

money to a certain extent

31:29

is going to shield them from the stuff that

31:32

other black people are going to endure under this

31:34

person. If you're rich and

31:36

black, do your kids need affirmative action to

31:39

get into Harvard or anywhere else? At

31:41

a certain point, no, they don't because you will, you're that person

31:43

and you're going to be like, this is my baby. And they're

31:45

going to get in the

31:47

other brilliant minds, like a Joanne Reed before

31:49

she was Joanne Reed who had those grades

31:51

and deserved to be at Harvard. Those

31:54

babies are now no longer going to get that

31:56

opportunity because people have chosen

31:58

the Republican way and we. at the Supreme

32:00

Court now that just doesn't care about people. So

32:03

I am frustrated

32:05

at a level I can't even put into words.

32:08

Like I had to, in the last couple of

32:10

weeks, I was like, let me just stay off

32:12

of the news. Let me just take a break

32:14

from watching it because I get so angry, righteously

32:17

angry that people don't care more

32:19

about other people. At a

32:21

certain point, it has to stop being about just

32:23

you and your stuff and

32:26

your house and your kids. You

32:28

have to care about the greater

32:30

good because if you don't care

32:32

about climate change, where are your babies going to live?

32:34

Because it's going to keep getting hotter. You

32:36

okay with your grandbabies on fire? Apparently

32:40

they are. Yeah. I don't

32:42

understand this. It's why is money more

32:44

important than people, profits over people, power

32:46

over people. That's not how

32:48

it's supposed to be. We're supposed to care about

32:50

each other and help each

32:53

other, even sacrificially, by going

32:55

back to the school board votes. Yes, take more of

32:57

my taxes if it's going to help these babies learn

32:59

what they need to learn. Yeah. What's wrong with that?

33:02

How much money do you need? I

33:06

feel like there's just a real disconnect from

33:10

what you said in terms of like,

33:12

we should be caring about people, right? The

33:15

human inhumanity is

33:18

lost. Absolutely. And there's a

33:21

practice that has to be put in

33:24

place. And I really genuinely

33:26

be telling people, challenge yourself to try

33:28

and make someone's day every day. It's

33:30

so easy. It's so easy.

33:33

Especially if you leave the house. It's so

33:35

easy. It's out there. The easiest

33:37

way, Amanda, is just compliment somebody's outfit.

33:39

That's it. Okay, polka dots. Okay,

33:41

polka dots. I gave you the

33:43

tool. They come out

33:45

to everybody that's out, especially if it's someone that's

33:48

in something interesting or stylish, they thought about it.

33:50

They be like, I'm going to put this pin right here. I'm about

33:52

to give them this bow tie, wait till they see these suspenders. Whatever

33:54

they're working with, this hat, fascinator, tilt to

33:57

the side, whatever it is, that person looks

33:59

in the mirror. and said, I'm going to take this

34:01

out in the world. And they might've felt a little nervous

34:03

about it because it is a hotel with suspenders and a

34:05

bath and a pen. And

34:07

when you see them, see

34:09

you wearing them, the suspenders, I see them

34:12

suspenders. Okay, Phil today. Okay, my man. You

34:15

will make their whole countenance changes. Even the

34:17

simplest thing. Let me tell y'all something even

34:19

as basic is like, when you go to

34:21

somewhere like Trader Joe's and they're like, you

34:24

know, how you doing, how your day, throw

34:27

it back to the person. How's your day? Most

34:30

people who are doing customer service, like that's

34:32

not even difficult. Like people are asking about

34:35

their day. And calling by the name, they

34:37

got us all rolling. Dancing roll, what are

34:39

you doing, man? Somebody's bagging

34:41

a mess out of my groceries. I be like, you bagging a

34:43

mess out of them groceries. You packing

34:45

that like Tetris. You better go and make that

34:47

milk and them eggs. I give everybody

34:49

compliments because it's the easiest thing. And if they're

34:52

doing a great job or they look nice, tell

34:54

them. But here's the thing. If you're

34:56

listening and you're like, I don't know, I'm an

34:58

introvert. I don't know

35:00

how I can do that. You're an introvert, right? Yes. I

35:03

will tell you this. It does still

35:05

serve you. I feel like even the

35:07

selfish people are like, I could never.

35:09

And it's like, well, it does still

35:11

serve you because it gives you endorphins.

35:13

There's connectivity there. There's just a joy

35:15

space that happens. And I

35:17

asked somebody who is, I'm going

35:20

through a transformation where I feel like

35:22

I'm getting to be just

35:24

more comfortable in my soft self. And

35:27

so it feels a lot easier to do that.

35:29

Why do you feel like you couldn't show yourself

35:31

self before or live in that space? Well,

35:33

for a long time, I wasn't

35:36

around people that were soft. So

35:38

they also were like throwing things at me

35:41

that I felt like I needed to like

35:43

combat. And I didn't know how to combat

35:45

them in a soft way without being walked

35:47

over. Do you feel soft with me? Of

35:50

course. Yeah, but we're not, you

35:52

know, you didn't even come with that. I

35:55

mean, like when I started, I started this business when I was

35:57

eight. So, you know, I've been

35:59

dealing with like. like funny style people, even

36:01

before I really knew what that meant. What

36:03

that meant, yeah. When I was in New

36:05

York and I'm having an offense for myself

36:07

and- Your life. And my life.

36:10

And I don't think I had a lot of people around me- Shout

36:12

out to New York. Who could be kind

36:14

to me about how I may

36:17

be misrepresenting myself, right? Or how I may

36:19

be, you know, saying things in a way

36:21

that I don't even realize. And I come

36:24

from a household, like my mom has a

36:26

very sharp tongue. Grenadians as

36:28

a whole are very like witty and

36:31

can be very snide and snarky. And

36:34

so I feel like I also just,

36:37

I didn't come from like a

36:39

soft home. Right. I just

36:41

didn't, you know, then I was a gymnast, so I was getting yelled at

36:43

all the time there. And then I was in,

36:45

I mean, I was in theater and my theater- This

36:48

is what's funny though. I always saw soft

36:50

in you. Even

36:52

in the midst of whatever something was, I

36:54

always saw because what I always

36:56

thought about you was the reason you were fighting the

36:58

power so much is because there was something in you

37:00

that said it shouldn't be this way. It

37:02

should be better. And you can only believe

37:05

that it can be better if there's a softness in

37:07

you, because otherwise you're bitter and hateful and think this

37:09

is just what it is. But you never move through

37:11

like this is just what it is. You move through

37:13

life like it shouldn't be this way. That comes from

37:15

softness. So that's what I always saw in you.

37:18

From the first day we met, I was just like,

37:20

I don't know. I just felt like I got it. I

37:22

get it. My

37:25

prayer for you had always

37:27

been that you would feel

37:30

safe enough to let that out because

37:33

this is a treacherous business. This is

37:35

a treacherous city. And you have

37:37

to believe that it's

37:39

okay to let that out

37:41

because again, as we started, they see kindness or

37:44

softness as weakness instead of seeing it the

37:46

way it really is, which is actually strength. To go

37:48

out into this world or this industry soft

37:50

or kind is strength. And

37:53

I wanted that for you because I always could see

37:55

what God had for you and where He was taking

37:57

you. And I wanted you to be able to. lean

38:00

into that and be able to

38:03

just let them. It's almost like in the

38:05

Wiz at the very end when they, when

38:07

Eveline is, and they, yeah, can you, and

38:09

they unzip themselves and they had these crackies.

38:11

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then they unzipped and

38:13

they were Alvin Ailey. Yeah, yeah. So I

38:15

felt like that was you, you were in,

38:17

you were, dude, you ended up doing the

38:19

work, right? Eveline is for you. And then

38:21

finally you got to unzip and come out.

38:23

You better know me and say it to

38:25

my face on my podcast. I'm just saying, I

38:27

knew it was in there. That

38:30

really is an eyeopening assessment of just

38:32

like, you knew that

38:34

I wanted something better, like for us. And

38:37

so that came from a soft place. That's

38:39

fascinating because I can absolutely say

38:41

that not

38:43

just the men I've dated, but that there are people around

38:45

me where they

38:47

didn't think that there could

38:50

be something better. And those people inevitably

38:52

have always ended up being very hardened,

38:55

dark people that I had to create boundaries

38:58

and distance from. Because they would look at me

39:00

like, why are you like

39:02

always trying to make change?

39:06

Like this is what it is. No, no, it

39:08

can always be better. That's what faith is, believing that it

39:10

can always be better. And I've had some friends

39:12

in the past that were very mean

39:15

or heavy and sometimes I would feel like

39:17

this person's heavy. Like this person's my assignment.

39:19

Like I'm supposed to come in because I'm

39:21

like, I'm supposed to come in and help

39:23

them navigate this season of time where they

39:25

feel like there's not enough or

39:28

they feel like life is hard or they feel

39:30

like everybody's out to get them. But then I

39:32

realized that not everybody is trying

39:34

to be better and not everybody

39:36

has the capacity to unzip.

39:40

You really think they don't have the capacity? I

39:42

do think that there's some that just, they've

39:44

decided that they're going to be wretched. They've

39:49

decided that it serves them or

39:51

they've decided that it's safer. Or

39:54

they've abandoned. Or they've abandoned, like they

39:56

got tired of dreaming and believing that it was

39:58

going to get better. They believe it. Time is running out

40:00

or there's not enough to go around like that's the

40:03

biggest lie That this industry tells

40:05

black women is that there's not enough to

40:07

go around and so that makes you move

40:09

through life like You

40:11

know because you're you're clawing your way and I think

40:13

it's And I have two thoughts about it

40:15

one. There is enough to go around but second what it's

40:18

offering is not even worth my soul Like

40:20

whatever this industry will give me if

40:22

I step on everybody's back. It's not

40:25

worth stepping on everybody's back I

40:27

don't want to destroy others to rise.

40:29

I don't there's not enough money

40:31

There's not enough opportunity in the world where

40:34

I want to hurt someone to get there

40:36

the values don't even add up to me

40:38

They do you wanted to just what is

40:40

what is the profit a man to gain

40:42

the world but loses soul? I believe that

40:44

I could win an oscar But if I

40:46

got to stab you in the back, yeah,

40:48

kick somebody in the chest to get it

40:51

What is this trophy? Why

40:53

it's you know, I'm saying if I can't get it

40:55

by being for quoting He

40:57

who robs me of my good name Robbed

41:00

me of that which not enriches him but

41:02

makes me poor indeed Absolutely. Hello.

41:04

Absolutely. This is the thing too talking

41:06

about your good name. That's the if

41:08

you ever see me fight for

41:10

myself I was like that online

41:12

but He's Cleveland

41:14

if you ever seen if you ever see

41:17

these hands jump in if you see these

41:19

hands No, but like if you ever see me

41:21

online like riling up and it's in regards to

41:23

me It's because somebody came for my name. I

41:25

don't play about my reputation or my good name.

41:28

I'm a decent person I'm a good person. I

41:30

love people. So anybody. Oh, man, anybody comes. Yeah

41:32

crazy to me about who I am As

41:35

a human being how I move We gonna

41:37

box call me fat. Call me ugly. Call me old.

41:39

Call me untalented. Call me z-list Any

41:42

of that I don't care that's enough. I don't care. Okay,

41:44

don't do it. Do not say that i'm not a good

41:46

person because we we gon box verbally

41:50

M'lover not a fighter anymore, but we're

41:52

gonna buy that's it anymore. Ask risk. He's

41:54

clueless. But i'm not i just don't believe

41:56

in Your your good

41:58

name is all You were. That's

42:01

all we really have three and especially in this business for

42:03

the first the people do when a thinking about should I

42:05

hire youth what he lied to where we. Will

42:08

Yeah, I mean because my name has been.

42:10

Be smart soon for. Quite. Some time based

42:12

on literally like nothing like there's actually no

42:14

examples of like all a man has been

42:16

difficult I'm like silk weapons of whenever i

42:19

as that later received me that receipts how

42:21

me away when I say no one can

42:23

ever tell me the example why does heard

42:26

that. What did they tell

42:28

you that I have any age that listen to When I

42:30

hear some I say I just heard of with a name

42:32

and number two buffets we gonna talk bad guy on the

42:34

phone? Call him because when I do it is. In

42:37

a doing this because like at present, I

42:39

am being somewhat blacklisted, I

42:41

probably the runoff from a com from

42:43

comedy clubs. Because I had

42:46

like. A. Comedy Club try

42:48

to take some shows for me and give

42:50

them to another comment and I had already

42:53

sold tickets and I also doesn't think that

42:55

was fair so as to get sick as

42:57

you saw the gives her know this My

42:59

dates okay said we're going to actually give

43:02

someone else your dates even though I had

43:04

already sold tickets on those dates. And.

43:06

I just I'm like well why is that

43:08

a saying well I already be there might

43:10

a rom and they like what we dislike

43:12

this mean I always wanted as I told

43:14

my my my can my constituency I told

43:16

my my fandom. And

43:18

support was was loud and the sisters was

43:21

like a not come on now do now

43:23

is it and they made the calls and

43:25

so then you to a bad as up

43:28

my dates Banker. But. I doubt

43:30

my dates back at the four sets.

43:32

Of getting new day. Because

43:36

now Eddie, Amanda Seals is

43:38

difficult. Because. I the and

43:40

will eyewitnesses describe would difficulties in so difficult

43:43

is when you don't. Let people

43:45

walk over. Corrects. So.

43:47

there's a forms i mean that's one version

43:49

of it because that's the one that i

43:51

feel i get player with the other form

43:54

of typical is when you just make everything

43:56

a thing yeah right like i need any

43:58

worried eminem yes i agree I

44:00

don't want Pampla Moose, LaCroix. I want

44:03

Lime. You know, I

44:05

know I don't want to wear that because, you

44:07

know, well, I know we decided that I could

44:10

wear that, but you know, like we, I've

44:12

seen difficult. But I'm not that

44:14

right. The other thing is like, don't let you

44:16

have a bad day. Because

44:19

if you have one bad day now, it, you

44:21

know, etc. Or don't let somebody

44:23

have done something wrong. And you said, Hey, that

44:25

was not cool. Yeah. Let

44:28

me tell you something. This is

44:30

what when I've had two experiences

44:32

with difficult people on set, only

44:34

two, there's only two people that I will

44:36

never work with again. Okay. Like,

44:39

and one of Chevy Chase. Who?

44:42

So that's one. I don't know who. So

44:46

I decided that

44:48

I, before I

44:50

get any job, I will Google the

44:52

person's name and asshole or diva. Right.

44:56

To see. Okay. And

45:01

what I've found is that the ones

45:03

that are truly vile, everyone

45:05

knows they're truly vile. The ones

45:07

that ran afoul of one or two people,

45:10

you can tell that it's a personality issue because

45:12

everybody don't like everybody. Everybody knows everybody. Some people

45:14

oil and water. That's that is fine. You know,

45:17

but it, it does not

45:19

stick and color your entire persona

45:22

because that's not who you are. So somebody can have a beef

45:24

with you. Like we all have be let me and Eddie go

45:26

out. We ain't gon' never, we ain't gon'

45:29

never. Okay. Never. All

45:31

right. Right. So

45:34

Eddie has probably nothing kind to say about me and

45:36

that, and that's okay. I just find this

45:38

so shocking. Is it shocking? Go

45:41

on Twitter and see. We lit him up for a couple

45:43

of days. We, he was,

45:45

he was on fire. And it's a thing

45:47

he did it to himself was when he came back with the, you should read

45:49

a book. Everybody was like, you tell

45:51

the black woman, how's the grease? Because he felt

45:53

ashamed. I expect more of you

45:56

from that. That

45:59

seems very unbecoming of your character

46:01

and from what I've experienced of your

46:04

intellect and of your, um, your

46:07

marriage. So I, I would,

46:09

I, I want to send a message out to

46:11

Dr. Eddie Glaude, who has been on this show, who

46:13

has also been on smart funny and black when

46:15

we were at Princeton with Imani Perry, I would just

46:17

like to send a message out that I hope

46:19

you will consider, you know, addressing

46:21

this in a more elevated

46:24

and high vibrational way, because that's what I

46:26

have come to, to know

46:28

you as. And this

46:30

representation seems very just

46:32

untoward. I believe

46:35

that Eddie Glaude did not

46:38

appreciate me telling what he

46:40

did. Okay. And I

46:42

think that he did not. And it spoke

46:44

to him. Yeah, because he wanted, it brought

46:47

the dark part out. Yes, because he wanted

46:49

to appear to be smarter

46:51

than all of us when he made the decision,

46:53

he was taking his stand and he was not

46:55

thinking of the greater good when he took that

46:57

stand. That is the only thing I said. And

46:59

when I gave him advice and I'm allowed to

47:02

give you advice at him, I'm old too. I

47:04

can give you advice. The advice I gave him

47:06

was to use the mistake he made to be

47:08

a teaching moment. If the great Eddie Glaude says,

47:10

don't be like me, I made

47:13

beautiful opportunity to teach because

47:15

everybody's like, Eddie Glaude is so

47:17

smart with Eddie. Don't make no mistakes. What did he do? And

47:20

then to find out that I did

47:22

not value my vote and in not

47:24

valuing my vote, I encourage other people

47:26

to not value their vote. And in

47:28

doing that, a monster got in because

47:30

enough people did not care

47:32

about not voting for that. We have

47:34

to be able to, especially

47:36

as scholars, we have to be able to

47:38

look at the past and not just the

47:40

past, but our past. And this is the

47:42

thing too. This is what I will extend

47:44

to him. If he felt that strong about

47:46

it and he felt that he was going

47:48

to take a stand, take the stand, Eddie, why are you

47:51

telling people you're taking the stand? Just take

47:53

the stand. Nobody knows what's going on when you get in that voting booth.

47:55

Just leave it, leave it blank for you. And

47:57

you feel like you're in a safe city and

47:59

ain't nobody, it's not going to. hurt Hillary Clinton

48:01

or the country. If you personally don't vote for

48:03

her, fine. He did a television tour. He

48:06

was talking about it on television, telling people, I'm

48:08

gonna leave it, I'm in. Then

48:10

that made other people go, well, I don't have to vote for

48:12

either then because the great Eddie Glaude ain't voting for her. It

48:16

was really very dangerous. And my

48:18

thing is, be that dude, but do not

48:20

come four or five, eight years later talking

48:22

about, oh, the world is crazy. Yeah, it

48:24

is, Eddie. Yeah, it is. It

48:28

is. So don't talk about how

48:30

far we've fallen. Talk about how you fell and

48:32

how you know better now. Well, it was unkind to say

48:34

read a book. That was very unkind. Oh yeah, you also

48:36

said I was ridiculous. I'm not ridiculous and I do read.

48:39

But then I, you know, cause I'm also petty. I'm very petty.

48:43

I'm very petty. Wait, are you saying yourself that you are

48:45

very petty? I'm very petty. So

48:47

I've been- Okay, but can there be kindness and

48:49

pettiness? Absolutely. Tell me how. Let me tell you

48:51

how. Because again, it's all about the greater good.

48:53

Okay. Right? And so since Eddie- Another Mac is

48:56

an there ain't no wrong reason to

48:58

do right. Listen, since Eddie

49:00

refused to accept that

49:03

he had done wrong and understand what I was trying

49:05

to say. And then he insulted me

49:08

three times. I think he said I was, he said I

49:10

was silly. He said I was ridiculous. And he said,

49:12

I need to read a book. So there was three things that he said.

49:14

So I found a way to get that

49:16

in as many times as I could. And every time

49:18

I jabbed him, I said, so you thought I couldn't

49:20

read. And

49:23

just read you. That's the- That's the-

49:26

So I'm gonna stay there. We

49:28

can do this because the thing is my ego's not attached

49:30

to it. And I believe in good

49:32

trouble. John Lewis said get in good trouble. This is some

49:35

good trouble. If you believe in people understanding that you're being

49:37

kids, this is some good trouble. What

49:44

does killing with kindness mean to you? In

49:48

my mind- And is it something that you practice?

49:52

In my mind, it's do not let it be. In

49:54

my mind, it's do not

49:56

let jerks get you off your

49:59

square. So the

50:01

two people that I will never

50:03

work with again, neither one

50:05

of them can say that I cussed them out. Neither

50:07

one of them can say that I was

50:09

unkind to them. Now, the second

50:12

one, I had a moment

50:14

where I had to step to baby girl

50:16

because she was making the set experience for

50:19

other people uncomfortable. And you're trying

50:21

to get people fired and you're doing stuff like that.

50:24

Oh, that's who I thought. Yeah, we don't do that.

50:26

We're not going to use this experience,

50:29

this blessing for all of us, and turn it into

50:31

a nightmare because you have ego issues. So

50:33

I had to step in and listen to this and hear, precious, and

50:35

mama let a baby sort of. She

50:38

sort of. We don't do that here.

50:40

I don't know where you did that or where that worked, but

50:43

this doesn't work here. So

50:45

we're going to come here. Did she receive it? I

50:48

don't know what the girl received, That's what

50:50

I mean. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Because

50:53

the understanding was it doesn't fly

50:56

here. I don't know where you've been flying on

50:58

your little broomstick, but it don't fly here. But

51:01

you said something to me like you came to her

51:03

in an unkind way, like you came to her directly.

51:05

And I really feel like often being direct gets

51:08

mislabeled as unkind. Yeah,

51:10

but the thing is though, I didn't go,

51:12

listen here, bitch. I didn't come like that.

51:14

I said, I said, I said, precious. Dazzling

51:18

Dime. Mm-hmm. Dazzling

51:21

Dime. What pain you must

51:23

be having to burn. What pain? Because

51:26

the thing is when people are acting up at that level,

51:28

they're really wounded. Yes. And if I

51:30

have a heart for you, I'm going to spend

51:32

some time helping you get what you

51:34

need so that you don't feel so afraid that you

51:37

have to be so hateful all the time. But if

51:39

I realize, which I realized with this one, that you

51:41

like being hateful, like you

51:43

get a perverse joy. That's that chemical

51:45

release. I'm telling you, they were bullied.

51:48

No. And now they're bullying.

51:50

No, we don't do that. Because that's how

51:52

they were like, well, there needs to be

51:54

like EMDR, like real-school therapy. Go to therapy

51:56

and get some meds. Do

51:59

not bring that. We're not this whole experience

52:01

for everybody else is not going to be damaged

52:03

because you're damaged So do whatever

52:05

you have to do to be okay.

52:08

You won't cry. Come on cry get

52:10

out Yeah, but don't bring that mess here. We

52:12

got 16 hours to be together. Don't do that

52:14

mess here Don't do that mess here.

52:17

What's a time in this business where or just

52:19

any time where you feel like someone was surprisingly

52:22

kind to you so

52:25

many examples, um With

52:28

the exception of those two people every single set

52:30

I've walked on it's been a joy You

52:34

know what I mean? Even here today You

52:41

know, it's it's but but this is the thing

52:43

that's what I expect there's this proverb or story

52:45

There was a man two men

52:48

sitting at a crossroads right two streets

52:50

two ways and somebody walked up

52:52

and said What's it like up the street, you know

52:55

place I came from people were horrible hateful nasty

52:57

mean people just whatever the gossip a I hate

53:00

to tell you that's exactly what you gonna find up the road next

53:02

person came up What's it like up the road

53:05

where I come from everybody's loving and kind and

53:07

they treat everybody good What else exactly would you

53:09

go find up the road good for you and

53:11

the other guys that well Keep they go into

53:13

the same place you find what you see and

53:15

seek and believe So when I

53:17

go somewhere, I don't I don't think about how

53:19

is this going to be horrible or how is

53:21

this gonna be drudgery? Every time

53:23

I leave my house. I'm like what amazing

53:25

thing is gonna happen today What

53:27

are me and Amanda gonna talk about right? Right

53:30

right being that pink room like my mind is

53:32

that I'm believing that something

53:34

wonderful is gonna happen every day and that's exactly

53:36

what I see and I find So

53:39

when I see someone that's in the space

53:41

where they can't see beyond

53:43

it It's like we're precious. We're gonna

53:45

talk about what's going on with you. We'll talk

53:47

about it Yeah You know and then you can tell

53:49

in that moment because if you genuinely open yourself

53:51

up and they know that it's safe If

53:54

it is something inside they'll let it out and

53:57

then they can build another pathway for themselves

54:00

Or if it's the woman that was helping

54:02

me at Nando's in

54:04

DC. I can't wait to

54:06

hear that. What is your day? I said, how's

54:09

your day going? Because the

54:11

furled brow had been maintained for a

54:13

strong 15 minutes. Absolutely.

54:16

And she was very bothered by me

54:18

changing tables. And I said, how? The

54:20

princess, what is happening? Your day. And

54:23

she said, my day fine. I just look like this

54:25

every day. I

54:27

was like, all right.

54:29

In which case? I will have the chicken with

54:31

the peri-peri sauce. It's just your face. That's

54:35

just her face. Oh, precious. That's okay. But I know

54:37

that that's not just her face. It wasn't just

54:39

her face. Because I'm just like, ooh, I could

54:41

see your laugh. I could see your smile. But you're just

54:43

annoying right now. She said, I'm moving around. I'm moving around

54:45

fast. I've got a lot going on. I'm moving around. And

54:47

I was like, okay. Okay. Let

54:50

me get that chicken. I'm going to get that lemonade. Get that

54:52

chicken. Let me get that chicken. But you know, that has been

54:54

something I've been... I've been

54:56

something I've over time been

54:59

able to be better at

55:01

as being...letting the kindness show in other

55:03

ways. Like, I feel like I've always been a kind

55:05

person, but there was a block

55:08

from that being able to be what I was

55:10

leading with. Right. And so it

55:12

was something that I knew about myself. But you didn't

55:14

think it was safe. I didn't think it

55:16

was safe. But I don't

55:18

think I also had the tools to even express

55:20

it like in like a genuine way in

55:23

that way. Like, I've always

55:25

been a kind person in the sense that like, I'm always going...

55:27

I'm going to help you carry up that stroller up them stairs.

55:29

Absolutely. I'm always, you know, I'm a...

55:32

Absolutely. I'm holding the door. Hold the door. Don't

55:34

let this pregnant lady be standing while we're on

55:36

this train. That's right. Because I will absolutely be

55:38

like, if y'all don't get up... So

55:41

shake this thing down, you know, like, and

55:43

I feel like... So like my kindness kind of

55:45

always came out in terms of like being

55:47

like the warrior for people. It's very, very violent. It's

55:50

New York. It is. Yes. It's

55:53

this thing. No, but it

55:56

took building boundaries.

56:00

in order for me to be able to

56:02

start living in the kindness

56:04

in a safe way. Right. And so to

56:06

your point, I didn't feel safe, but I

56:08

also didn't know how to create boundaries without

56:11

feeling unkind. Right. Because that's

56:13

the other part about the building of the boundaries, is

56:15

that then you feel like I built a boundary and

56:17

it was unkind for me to have a boundary with

56:19

this person. Mm-hmm. And then you got to get

56:21

over that. Yeah, because, listen,

56:24

it always goes back to put your oxygen mask

56:26

on first, right? And so if someone

56:29

is running rough shot over you or running

56:31

rough shot over your time or not respecting

56:34

who you are, you have every right

56:36

to go, hey, pressure, that's

56:38

when that happens. We got it. We

56:40

got it. Yeah, we got it not. That kind of

56:42

makes me feel crazy when you do that. And I

56:45

want our friendship to be able to continue. So you

56:48

pump your brakes in that area. And the person

56:50

either will rise to the occasion and go, oh

56:52

my God, I'm so sorry, I didn't mean it.

56:54

Or if their ego's tied up in it, then

56:56

they're going to, they're going to buck. Yep. And

56:58

that's okay because now you've shown me you're not

57:01

safe. Correct. This is not going to be a

57:03

good lasting friendship. Correct. And that's fine. I'm going

57:05

to release you. I'm going to

57:07

release you like a dove in school. And feel good.

57:09

Feel totally fine about it. That's the thing I think

57:11

that stops a lot of people. People

58:00

are delicious. I think they're just wonderful.

58:02

I do, I do think they're wonderful.

58:04

And I think that we're all our

58:06

eight year old selves or our six year old selves

58:09

in these adult bodies. And some of us need a

58:11

nap. Some of us didn't get

58:13

the carrots or the PB and J's. Like

58:15

these are just little baby tantrums that

58:18

everybody's having. And when you see

58:20

the child, right? You wouldn't

58:22

talk to a little child. Would

58:26

you tell you? You need a nap, would

58:28

you be? And even if you comment

58:30

them like that, something inside of them just

58:32

kind of goes, oh wow, I was a little crazy.

58:34

Yeah. Yeah, you look

58:36

tired. You look tired. It's okay. You

58:39

know? It's all right, sweetie. It's okay,

58:41

babe. So I feel like it's, for me,

58:44

I've always been outward facing. I've always

58:46

wanted everybody to be okay. And

58:49

I've always wanted to be used however God wanted

58:51

to use me wherever he puts me. And

58:53

so that's how I move. But the thing is people

58:55

forget Jesus flipped tables, right? People

58:57

really forget this. Mm-hmm.

59:00

People really act like Jesus is out here

59:02

hanging out. They also act like Martin Luther

59:04

King was literally just, you know.

59:06

They really do just this kind. This

59:08

is the thing. It's like there are

59:10

moments when even the kind

59:12

people have to speak up and fight

59:14

the good fight. And so there's nothing

59:16

wrong with being a kind person that

59:18

also will kick somebody in the shins

59:20

when they need it. Because otherwise

59:23

you're ineffective. Just being kind and not speaking

59:25

up when something's wrong. What are you good

59:27

for? You have to

59:29

use your platform for good. And

59:31

that means sometimes you gotta call people on the carpet.

59:34

Now going back to Eddie Glott one more time. If

59:37

he were to want to talk to me

59:39

about it, I would be totally open

59:41

to talking about it. Like it's not, because I don't

59:43

think he understood where I was coming from. And then

59:46

once he insulted me, I didn't care

59:48

where he was coming from. Do you feel like,

59:50

do you have a connection to him outside of

59:52

social media? Mm-mm. So do

59:54

you feel like there may have been this feeling like, oh,

59:57

she's calling me out instead of calling me in? I

1:00:00

don't I think that I think that he believed that

1:00:02

I had no right to have anything to say to

1:00:04

him at all I think that he didn't I think

1:00:06

he was like who is this chick just basically lighting

1:00:08

me up But this is the thing that I want

1:00:11

to make very clear. I was not alone When

1:00:14

I tell you it was three days At

1:00:16

a certain point i'm like he's dead guys Like

1:00:19

I felt I started to feel bad for him at

1:00:22

a certain point because people were piling on so much

1:00:24

But they were piling on righteously. It was the

1:00:26

same. Nobody was talking about him personally Nobody was

1:00:28

like well, you got some blue glasses on like

1:00:30

nobody was coming for him personally. It was literally

1:00:34

What he said and what he did and how he's

1:00:36

trying to now act as if well,

1:00:38

tell me this because we're here Yeah, what is

1:00:40

the shift that he said? What

1:00:42

do you mean like so you said now

1:00:44

he's now he's acting as if so, what

1:00:46

is he doing now? Well, he's he's acting

1:00:49

as if he has no idea how we

1:00:51

got here When the bottom line

1:00:53

is we got here because not enough people

1:00:55

voted for hillary clinton in certain states That's

1:00:57

how we got here We got here because

1:00:59

we were faced with the most qualified person

1:01:01

ever run for For um president and the

1:01:03

least qualified person ever run for president and

1:01:05

people thought because they didn't like the lady

1:01:07

They couldn't vote for the lady 53 of

1:01:09

white women coming for you. So the whole point

1:01:12

is this idea That

1:01:14

it's a mystery how our

1:01:16

democracy is is For how

1:01:18

there's there's six three on the supreme court.

1:01:20

How did this happen? You know how it

1:01:23

happened and sir, you have a hand in

1:01:25

it and that's all I said Okay,

1:01:28

let's call it said Did he

1:01:30

express that he's operating differently this go

1:01:33

round? I never heard

1:01:35

him say that I heard him say that in his book that

1:01:37

I did not read and will not read That

1:01:39

he apologized in that book And

1:01:41

that I should read that book and I said a lot of people ain't gonna

1:01:44

read that book a lot of people watch You on msnbc So

1:01:46

i'm saying when you're on msnbc before you start speaking

1:01:48

about how hard we how much we fallen how far

1:01:50

we fallen Talk about the mistake you made and encourage

1:01:53

people not to be like you every time Okay,

1:01:55

well, I know what message to say when I

1:01:57

see dr. Glaude because the way my life I'm

1:02:00

gonna end up running into Dr. Bob. You

1:02:03

don't have something to say about me. I don't care what Eddie say about

1:02:05

me, you know. I'm not, you know, and

1:02:07

listen, I, everyone knows the kind of person I

1:02:09

am. So I absolutely am going to say, now

1:02:11

you know that you owe this lovely lady, this

1:02:13

kind woman and apology. So there's one. And so

1:02:15

just know that I'm going to say that because

1:02:17

some people don't like when people stick up for

1:02:19

them. I am a sick upper. I am

1:02:22

too. You know, I am. I

1:02:24

know. So a little like that. I lost what I thought

1:02:26

was a friend for sticking up for her because she was

1:02:28

like, it, it's like, I understand

1:02:30

because it can feel like an invasion of

1:02:33

privacy. Oh, this is public. It don't matter. So,

1:02:35

you know, it was like she had, she had told me

1:02:37

like, Oh, this person got at me sideways. And then when

1:02:39

I was with that person and that person like mentioned her,

1:02:42

I was like, well, whenever when he

1:02:44

was a sideways and she felt like that was not

1:02:46

my place to say. So you

1:02:48

know, that was her preference. And I respect that.

1:02:50

Now if the roles are reversed and that's up

1:02:52

for me, listen, man, speak up for me. If

1:02:55

I hear that you was

1:02:57

there, let me hear, let me hear. Let me

1:02:59

tell you something. I'm such a big speaker upper with

1:03:01

somebody says something about my friend. I only have to tell my

1:03:03

friends. Somebody says something because I handled it. That's what

1:03:05

you're not going to do. What's your name?

1:03:07

What you know? I don't know. I

1:03:10

mean, and I need

1:03:12

to know like I've had friendships and

1:03:14

because it was like, what'd

1:03:16

you say when they

1:03:18

said it? I know you telling me

1:03:20

what they said. What'd you say when

1:03:22

they said it? Well, you know,

1:03:24

I ain't want to get it, but you

1:03:26

listen, but you listen. I

1:03:29

don't even want to feel like you, the

1:03:31

type of person where they would talk about

1:03:33

me, you wouldn't stop. You better stop it.

1:03:35

I stopped it. It's so much crazy. I

1:03:38

want my friends. I've been

1:03:40

like, Hey, don't know. You better put that in front of me. Let

1:03:44

me tell you about a character. Let me tell you who she

1:03:46

is. I

1:03:49

have a homegirl. Shut up. So

1:03:51

high, low, high, low, high, low. That's

1:03:53

a pretty good, because I want to give an example

1:03:56

of how you can, you know, stand up for somebody

1:03:58

and let that kindness resonate in a real way. She

1:04:00

was on a call representing me in a marketing

1:04:02

space and she was on the call with three

1:04:05

execs Okay, and the executives were talking about doing

1:04:07

work with me and the one sister in the

1:04:09

room said well we heard that she's difficult and

1:04:14

At that moment so I look could have done

1:04:16

one of two things because in representation Right

1:04:19

a lot of times people

1:04:21

choose to go that will let me appease

1:04:23

this person route Oh, she's better now

1:04:25

or she she used to be but she's but

1:04:28

it qualifies it absolutely And so

1:04:30

instead though so highless said She

1:04:32

even asked an example. She said how do you

1:04:34

feel like that brings value to this conversation?

1:04:38

Yeah then

1:04:40

she said Have you

1:04:42

ever echoed those thoughts about a man and

1:04:45

there was silence in both ways in

1:04:47

both cases both questions and she said

1:04:49

so the issue here is we're talking

1:04:51

about working together in a capacity and

1:04:55

Does Amanda meet the criteria right

1:04:57

of the capacity right and she

1:04:59

does So when you

1:05:01

bring in things like she's quote-unquote difficult to

1:05:03

work with what? value does

1:05:05

that bring to the conversation

1:05:07

because what we've identified here is that

1:05:10

she meets the criteria of The

1:05:12

capacity and that's all that really should

1:05:14

be Converse and for the record she's

1:05:16

not different and that's when now we

1:05:19

come now And she's also not

1:05:21

difficult to work with but when you come it

1:05:23

remember how you said when you come down the

1:05:25

street and you like Is it nasty up there?

1:05:27

Yeah, if you're coming into it without my that's

1:05:29

right That's what you're gonna get

1:05:31

but that was a scenario where I felt

1:05:33

so full because you know But that's the

1:05:36

type of person I am so of course

1:05:38

if I see that the glows I'm gonna

1:05:40

be like not not not the glows Now

1:05:43

come on now player playing

1:05:45

player black woman. She need to read Well,

1:05:48

we actually are the number one most well, I mean,

1:05:50

that's when you lost me I was like by the

1:05:52

most books But I just think at

1:05:54

the end of the day the most important thing about

1:05:56

this particular incident is that all

1:05:59

the smart blacks have to be together. Yeah.

1:06:02

We really have to be working in

1:06:04

unison and we don't have to agree

1:06:06

on everything but we do have to

1:06:08

understand the goal. We have to agree

1:06:10

on the goal. Absolutely. And we have

1:06:13

to also realize that like there's gonna

1:06:15

be pathways to that goal that aren't

1:06:17

necessarily as exciting for all of us.

1:06:19

Right. But that we got

1:06:21

to understand with our critical thinking and logic. Where

1:06:23

we're trying to get. Yeah. I don't have to.

1:06:25

So like when people are like, oh, you love

1:06:27

Biden. Of course I don't love Biden, but

1:06:30

I know that's where we

1:06:32

at. I like Biden. I

1:06:34

love Kamala. I don't love Kamala.

1:06:37

I mean, what's the love? AKA. Oh, well, you

1:06:39

got to do that. That's just that. She's done

1:06:41

a great job. I enjoy her. I do. I

1:06:44

mean, I think she's, she's

1:06:46

a nice gal.

1:06:49

For all intents and purposes, I will say this. I

1:06:52

think for a lot of us, she

1:06:54

was utilized to be, to push the

1:06:56

presidency forward in a way that many

1:06:58

vice presidents in the past have not.

1:07:00

Right. Right. So she was very specifically

1:07:02

positioned as like a row as like

1:07:04

they were going to add some robustness

1:07:06

to this presidency. Now I'm not on

1:07:08

the inside, so I don't know what

1:07:10

the breakdown was from the inside, but

1:07:12

ultimately I think this was a time

1:07:14

for the vice president to be utilized

1:07:16

in a far more engaging way. And

1:07:18

she was not. And so now here

1:07:20

we are and we're still fighting voter apathy.

1:07:23

Yeah, but I think in ways that like we

1:07:25

just didn't, I could have fought and I don't,

1:07:27

I don't know that that's her fault. No, I don't think it is.

1:07:29

And I might be biased because, you know, I'm an AK, but I'm

1:07:31

also smart and I'm, I'm swirty stuff

1:07:33

aside. She's doing more

1:07:35

than anyone knows she's doing because it's 24

1:07:37

hours indictment watch with

1:07:40

Donald Trump. Same thing for Biden. I think

1:07:42

that they have done a lot of good

1:07:44

things. Like the infra, I did a, a

1:07:46

documentary about infrastructure probably five years ago. I've been

1:07:48

clanging the bail about we need to fix our bridges

1:07:51

and our roads. And so the

1:07:53

fact that we've got, yeah. So the fact

1:07:55

that we have an infrastructure bill now that

1:07:57

is literally rebuilding America is everything.

1:07:59

This is. Student loan forgiveness is everything

1:08:01

there is more that they've done and

1:08:03

could have done more had more people

1:08:05

voted And we could have had

1:08:07

the house the house. Yeah, there is they could have done

1:08:09

all of it, right? So

1:08:12

I understanding how civics works and understanding

1:08:14

how each of the three, you

1:08:16

know parts of government work I know that

1:08:18

we can't blame him or Kamala for The

1:08:21

things that they weren't able to do and I

1:08:23

think that if we had a media that cared

1:08:25

more about democracy than ratings We

1:08:27

would spend more time talking about the good that

1:08:30

Biden and and hairly so that's where I stand

1:08:32

I would have liked her to have better I

1:08:36

feel like her her talking points

1:08:38

have not been very strong in many

1:08:41

cases over this presidency And that's where some

1:08:43

of my frustration. Okay, like I think there

1:08:45

there would have there could have been a

1:08:47

better showing and I feel Like she her

1:08:50

language shifted What she

1:08:52

I think it's shifting now to I feel like

1:08:54

what we'll see Through the

1:08:56

end of this year and all next year is gonna be different

1:08:59

I think she's gonna be pushed more to the So

1:09:01

which I think it's gonna be really great I think young

1:09:03

people are excited about her and I'm excited you do I

1:09:05

do believe that you think young people are excited I really

1:09:07

do. I really do. I think they are I think they're

1:09:09

more excited by her They don't need to look at it

1:09:12

in Biden. I think I think if they had to pick

1:09:14

who they liked Uh-huh who they're more excited about between the

1:09:16

two of them. I think they would say her I

1:09:18

have nothing that reflected in my interactions, but

1:09:20

I'm gonna pose that I'm gonna actually make

1:09:22

a direct please to Mary Please do because

1:09:25

I'm curious. Yeah, speaking of queries For

1:09:29

us to go to the patreon all right

1:09:31

it's time for us to go to the

1:09:33

patreon and The steel squad is gonna ask

1:09:36

the questions and see well anybody can ask the

1:09:38

questions only the steel squad gets to see the answer Why do

1:09:40

you miss us all? Cuz I'm

1:09:42

sitting on a cushion because I have

1:09:45

hip dysplasia and a bad lower back.

1:09:47

Okay? Five-six you are tall

1:09:49

five two. Okay, that's part of it, too

1:09:53

We'll be over there. Hope to see you there

1:09:55

go to the Amanda verse calm Oh,

1:10:02

there you all have it. Well,

1:10:04

Ms. Nicole Brown, I want to thank

1:10:06

you. Did you make my, you hyphenated my middle name with my

1:10:08

last name? Into the last name. Mm-hmm. Thank

1:10:11

you, thank you, Ms. Seals. I appreciate

1:10:13

you, Ms. Seals. No, I

1:10:15

really appreciate it. This is long overdue. And it's

1:10:17

time. It's necessary, you know? Yeah. Like,

1:10:21

I go to this coffee shop called La La

1:10:23

Land, and they wear hats that say, Make America

1:10:25

Kind Again. Yes. Can we try

1:10:27

that? And I feel like one

1:10:29

thing I would love for you to leave the people with

1:10:31

is just, like, what

1:10:34

are some affirmations to walk out

1:10:36

the house with to

1:10:38

be a part of making the movement to make America Kind

1:10:40

Again? Yes. Okay, how about this? No

1:10:43

one is out to get me. I

1:10:46

am enough. No one is out to

1:10:48

get me. No one? No one. No one.

1:10:51

Imagine if you grasped that. Marjorie Taylor Greene? Nobody.

1:10:54

Or let me say this. They may be

1:10:56

out to get me, but nobody can get me. I think that's, yeah,

1:10:58

because they out to get me. Nobody can get me. Nobody

1:11:00

can get me. But also, if

1:11:02

you just do a little Jedi mind trick and

1:11:04

tell yourself nobody's out to get you, that'll totally

1:11:06

shift everything. Because as you're moving through life, because

1:11:09

we can look at the boogeymen or the throw-a-dice

1:11:12

cave women like Marjorie Taylor Greene, and

1:11:15

that's a big bad, right? But it's really,

1:11:17

when you walk out the house and go, nobody's out to get me, that

1:11:20

means the person that cuts you off on the freeway and out to get

1:11:22

you, the person that doesn't let you merge is

1:11:24

not out to get you. You know what came to mind

1:11:26

was that Tamika Mallory is in Kentucky, and they're telling her,

1:11:28

like, she's getting death threats, so, like, people are out to

1:11:30

get her. Yes, but it's a

1:11:32

subtle shift. Like, there's the

1:11:34

reality of we are Black people in America.

1:11:37

Right. Okay, that is never going to change. Correct. And

1:11:40

we are literally going to be fighting for our lives until the Lord calls us

1:11:42

home. Now, that's the truth. Okay, yeah. But

1:11:44

when we're talking about affirmations, these are the things, the

1:11:46

little delicious things you tell yourself to be able to

1:11:48

make it through the day. But what if it's a

1:11:50

lie? It's not a lie, though. Because

1:11:52

the thing is, the idea that nobody's out to get

1:11:54

me, I think it is the better way to say

1:11:56

it is no one will get me. Like, no weapon for them to get

1:11:58

me. against me, she'll prosper. There is

1:12:00

a better way to say it. Yeah,

1:12:03

but I move through life believing

1:12:07

that wherever I go, I'm

1:12:09

gonna give you background music. I'm gonna give you

1:12:11

background music. It won't work. It

1:12:16

won't work. Come on, no

1:12:19

weapons. Mm, Fred Hymn. That

1:12:21

whole album is delicious, it's

1:12:24

anointedness in that album. You follow Fred Hymn on

1:12:26

Instagram? I do. I'd be

1:12:29

like, what are you posing for it? I know,

1:12:31

but listen, pages of life, chapters one and two,

1:12:33

he can do whatever he wants. Okay. Whatever you

1:12:35

want, whatever you do with Fred, I'm gonna go back, right on back. But

1:12:37

I do think that, I feel like that, okay, I

1:12:40

say that because I had a tough time with affirmations

1:12:42

in the beginning because I felt like they felt like

1:12:44

lies, and I had to

1:12:46

find affirmations. They didn't feel like lies. Yes,

1:12:48

that's right. Do you know that you're enough? Yes,

1:12:51

but I had to affirm. Yeah. The

1:12:54

lies, that wasn't necessarily one of the ones that felt like

1:12:56

a lie, but it just felt like, now

1:12:58

you know you don't believe that yet. And so I had

1:13:01

to... Yeah, okay, but see, that's what affirmation

1:13:03

is. It's a thing that you say

1:13:06

over and over until you... But

1:13:09

they are out to get us, so I can't tell

1:13:11

myself that. Yeah, but you know what? Because I feel like

1:13:13

I don't want to... The reason why I say this only

1:13:15

is because I

1:13:17

don't want us to lie

1:13:20

ourselves into complacency. So

1:13:22

it's more so it's like, I'm gonna do what I'm

1:13:24

supposed to do. You know what's funny though, Amanda? I

1:13:26

don't know why in my mind I can...

1:13:29

I'm compartmentalizing it, right? Because when I

1:13:31

think of an affirmation, I'm thinking about

1:13:34

my space. And again, in

1:13:36

Tamika's situation, her space is death

1:13:38

threats right now in front of her. But you

1:13:40

and I right now in this moment, and we

1:13:42

all get nonsense. I was gonna say,

1:13:44

I mean... Yeah, I can get up too. But nobody right

1:13:46

now, as far as I know, I ain't checked my

1:13:49

email in a while, is actively like, nigga bitch die

1:13:51

right now. I've gotten those

1:13:53

messages, but not right now. Okay. We'll

1:13:55

be after this here. But it's not happening

1:13:58

right now. So I'm saying when I'm brushing... My

1:14:00

teeth in the morning and I say

1:14:02

nobody's out to get me. That is

1:14:04

something that Resets my mind as

1:14:07

I go out in the world. There may be a

1:14:09

different reality that I see that day, but in that

1:14:11

moment That's what

1:14:13

you need. Yeah, it washes over you and

1:14:15

you're like I'm enough. It's okay Life

1:14:18

is opening up to me in beautiful

1:14:20

ways I don't even know my name

1:14:22

is being spoken in ways that will

1:14:25

will change my trajectory These

1:14:28

are the kind of things that you can say

1:14:30

because the thing is when we expect negativity That's

1:14:33

not true either Right. It's

1:14:36

not if you believe that somebody's out to get

1:14:38

you or you believe that, you know There's no

1:14:40

opportunities coming for you or nobody's gonna ever love

1:14:42

you. These are lies These are lies too or

1:14:44

things that have not come to fruition yet either

1:14:46

So why not in this moment choose

1:14:48

to believe that good is on its way and

1:14:51

that life can change in beautiful ways

1:14:53

for me There's enough reality that's gonna meet

1:14:55

us