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This. Week in Edgerton, Kansas. A wild
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family dynamic leads to fighting bad
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feelings and eventually as cold blooded
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murder as a person could think
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up, perpetrated by the person you'd
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least expect. Welcome to small town
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everybody and welcome back to Small Town
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Murder Say oh yeah indeed Jimmy Yeah
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indeed My name is James Patrick Gallow
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we go. We're comedians and this is
5:24
a comedy show, everybody. There will be
5:26
jokes. I can say that much about
5:28
it. There will also be terrible, horrible
5:30
murder. That's the thing. The thing is,
5:32
we like to... We really tread the...
5:34
Of course, a little. Yeah, yeah. We walk
5:36
that line very nicely. That's the thing about
5:38
it. What we do is we never make
5:40
fun of the victims or
5:42
the victims' families. Why is that, James?
5:44
Because we're assholes. Oh, yeah, but? But
5:46
we're not scumbags. That's how that works.
5:48
See? There you go. There's plenty
5:51
of stuff to make fun of. We make fun
5:53
of murderers. We make fun of a dumb murder
5:55
plot. Make fun of a small-town police force that
5:57
doesn't realize they've talked to the murderer ten times.
6:01
We make fun of small towns because we're all
6:03
from somewhere small. If you don't believe me listen
6:05
to Fishgill New York episode where I completely destroy
6:07
where I grew up. So I mean there's nothing
6:09
sacred here. It's all a big fun roast and
6:11
we're gonna have a good time here except for
6:13
dead people. We try to keep that pretty sacred.
6:16
So if that sounds good to you, man are
6:18
you gonna hear a fun show. If you think
6:20
true crime and comedy should never ever never go
6:22
together maybe we're not for you but maybe
6:25
we are. Maybe give it a shot and
6:27
either way no complaining later. That said, I
6:30
think it's time everybody to sit back. Let's
6:32
all clear the lungs and let's all shout.
6:35
Shut up
6:38
and give me
6:41
murder. Let's do this everybody.
6:43
What do you say? Let's go on a trip shall
6:45
we? Oh yeah. We have
6:47
to go somewhere. Let's go to
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Kansas. Okay. Most people
6:51
let's say let's
6:54
go on a trip. They don't go
6:56
to Kansas. Yeah. You know so we
6:58
are in Kansas. This is Edgerton, Kansas.
7:00
Okay. It's in Northeast Kansas. Yeah. And
7:03
it's about 40 minutes to Kansas City.
7:05
Yeah. Kansas City, Kansas that is.
7:07
Oh yeah. Yeah because it's there's one on
7:10
each side there. About two
7:12
hours and 15 minutes to Wichita and about
7:14
three hours and 23 minutes to Great
7:17
Bend, Kansas our last Kansas episode the
7:19
Carnival Mafia which was insane
7:22
obviously. That's right. The Carnival Mafia you
7:24
can just tell by the
7:26
title how crazy that was so go back and listen
7:28
to that one. This is in Johnson County and a
7:30
little bit of Miami County as well. Area
7:34
code 913 the motto
7:36
here this they just like
7:38
it because it rhymes. So that motto
7:40
is global routes or local routes. So
7:42
global routes local routes. See? Oh routes
7:44
and routes how they do that that's
7:46
why they do that. They just like
7:49
global routes local. What does
7:51
that mean? No idea. They just
7:53
like the word play. That's what I mean. Where's
7:55
it going? It doesn't mean anything. They're
7:58
like that. That one and where's it going? It's pretty good. The
8:00
word playwright their high yell at you
8:02
that L roots and roots of a
8:04
man that's hot shit history in this
8:07
town Edgerton is. This is the winner
8:09
of the name battle. Between this their
8:11
heads off for name's before Edgerton. Before
8:13
they finally come up with adjutant it
8:16
was Lanes Field that was Mic Camus.
8:18
it was Hibbard. And was
8:20
also Martinsburg. And that
8:23
landed on was agitated. Know what edging
8:25
was back there Now they had mono
8:27
ideology now the blue balls found out
8:29
now the sickness if is like well
8:31
where the mormons emphasis a so they
8:33
come in and and miles answers and
8:35
this was our blue balls Kansas Components
8:37
Judge David Martin He owned a farm
8:39
in the area where of Edgerton exists
8:41
and so they named it Martinsburg and
8:44
then adds or tim vow and eighteen
8:46
seventy the railroad was extended outta here
8:48
and he all yeah joyce and a
8:50
it was odd name for the chief
8:52
engineer. Of the Atchison Topeka and
8:54
Santa Fe Railway. Edgerton
8:56
so they named it after had his name
8:58
was Edge or to his name was ads
9:00
are I think and not all that entertaining
9:02
says yes that's out happened south. The reviews
9:04
of this town here Okay there's only one
9:06
review is it as a small town? The
9:08
Stance: Really this is like time in the
9:10
middle unawares will talk about in our story.
9:13
Most. Of the story takes place in a
9:15
pretty big suburb of Kansas City. And.
9:17
Then they use this rural area as a
9:19
place for murder. kind of. So it's a
9:22
single Yeah, it's one of those type of
9:24
deal, so there's not a lot going on
9:26
here. Here's a review. One one review and
9:28
it's from a site where you don't have
9:30
to give any stars and this gives Zero
9:32
stars. Yeah, unless you like to drive ten
9:35
minutes for a gallon of milk, this is
9:37
not the place for yeah, I
9:39
mean, ten minutes isn't that bad. I was
9:41
pretty good or bad people who live
9:43
in cities, back and suburbs neighborhoods. It takes
9:46
time as as together neighborhoods centers as
9:48
like qualify Miles Assassin, I am not even
9:50
prowl. It's the only thing here besides
9:52
homes about one third of them need to
9:54
go. it's and parentheses the replanting here
9:56
there's going to wreak of unity blandness thanks
9:59
to his again. They soon a liquor store
10:01
in a bar. So. Lots
10:03
of places devices will buy. Booze is a
10:05
scary place to place of the by both
10:07
Alex slaves or buy beer. Their place to
10:10
my liquor here to place to drink beer
10:12
and liquor over here Perfect. Oh and that's
10:14
frames come through about every hour. Better places
10:16
to be if you're looking in Kansas South.
10:19
It's constantly loud, constant rains going on and
10:21
and sounds like it's the last few drunk
10:23
people wandering around. Cf here at as he
10:26
made they made it sell your like an
10:28
old west town like it was Dodge City.
10:31
Oh I didn't get a has a
10:33
similar gets very far beyond that. You
10:35
gotta like, you've got a clear the
10:37
streets of high noon to avoid the
10:39
guns. I have a gun Blake as
10:41
people will be dueling egg it's gonna
10:43
happen A out he had last spring.
10:45
Ah man took as I write apps
10:47
people in this town Nineteen hundred and
10:49
one says a small. Very small and
10:51
it is mostly thrive. Fifty three and
10:53
a half percent female median age is
10:55
exactly the answers median age. They're not
10:58
thirty seven and a half. Fifty three
11:00
percent married. It's very much. A hangover.
11:02
Married. Family type of town
11:05
out here are racist and ninety five
11:07
percent White Zero point zero percent Black
11:09
zero point zero percent Asian point seven
11:11
percent Native American, two point seven percent
11:13
hispanic and and two or more South
11:15
or unemployment rate here is low. It's
11:17
about three point one percent, which is
11:20
some that just as touch lower than
11:22
the of the country median household income
11:24
here's a little bit higher in the
11:26
rest of the country and real haven't
11:28
Seventy four thousand, seven hundred forty one
11:30
dollars a year, the averages sixty nine
11:32
thousand. Twenty One dollars. So what the fuck
11:35
are they doing That sign That bad? They're
11:37
doing well here. And that cost of living?
11:39
One hundred as regular average. Here it is
11:41
one o Six point two. So.
11:43
Not too bad but with any and the
11:45
housing slightly lower than the average that Yakima,
11:48
Kansas you get tornadoes and said oh yeah
11:50
that house is coming down it's gotta be
11:52
like a breakaway. It's ss do either.
11:54
Plus you their build a solid like three
11:56
layer brickhouse or it's like a breakaway that
11:58
you just pick up and. Rebuild over
12:00
nearly ninety three and be a pants. We're
12:03
here to assist that uma terrible off as
12:05
as he put it back together pretty quick
12:07
dancing and a go getter from half a
12:09
county over and as set it back up
12:12
again. Pretty easy going on and so it
12:14
works. Median home cause to or two hundred
12:16
seventy thousand three hundred bucks so that see
12:18
but not that expensive. Now maybe we've convinced
12:21
you. That. This is the only
12:23
place for you and if we may
12:25
be working Kansas City when he went
12:27
right and well Listen, we have some
12:29
stuff for you with the Edgerton Kansas
12:31
Real Estate Reports. So
12:40
the average two bedroom rental here goes
12:42
for about a thousand and eighty dollars
12:45
a month. So that's normal national average
12:47
sentiments. Know all the houses now I
12:49
there's you can't find a cheap house
12:51
air at. Sit there and find the
12:54
house of the average. Here's a four
12:56
bedroom, three baths, sixteen hundred seventy square
12:58
foot house and not huge but nice
13:00
livable. I'm real nice. It's problem with
13:03
this houses. it's not finished. From
13:07
the outside it looks great but then from
13:09
the inside very rooms that are just concrete
13:11
and would it's just like there's no no
13:13
no of inertia. There's no whoring. There's no
13:15
walls, there's no dry wall. There's no any
13:17
sense to buy for it's is to buy
13:19
forces room that are just concrete. It's I
13:21
don't understand someone that they're selling it like
13:23
that for someone built that most of the
13:25
way and they're like an iron are people
13:27
might wanna they want to decide what kind
13:30
of was they want his mars right or
13:32
we can just tell him or hello I
13:34
this is hard I quit. I thought that
13:36
this is expensive. I'm sorry out to sell
13:38
it for what it as others even six
13:40
years a couple that are photo shop of
13:42
what it could look like. oh I hate
13:45
that. So my gathers the rumor that there's
13:47
the rice. If it was finished it looked
13:49
like yes well it's not Venice. so
13:52
that's crazy three hundred ninety nine
13:54
thousand nine hundred fifty dollars so
13:57
four hundred grand for an unfinished
13:59
house unless half an acre of property
14:01
in Kansas. Oh,
14:03
you got a lot of work to do. Seems pricey, I
14:05
think. Next up, five
14:07
bedroom, six bath, tea ball for each
14:09
and every beehole. 6,096 square feet.
14:14
Oh my! 21.61
14:16
acres. Holy!
14:20
It is ridiculous. The
14:22
house is too big. It's not built
14:24
like a north. 6,000
14:26
square feet is so much house. It's so
14:29
long. It's just so long. It's
14:32
one story? No, no,
14:34
it's two stories, but it looks like it's
14:36
some kind of like an inn or something. It
14:38
doesn't look like a residential house. It looks like
14:40
there's many people from all around sleeping here. Even
14:43
if it's 4,000 on the bottom and
14:45
2,000 up, that's a fuck load of house.
14:47
There's so many windows and there's just so
14:50
much going on. It's a lot. There's
14:53
like six garages. It's a lot
14:55
of shit going on. It's like
14:57
15,000 bucks for that though. That's
14:59
a great deal. Yeah, in Phoenix that's like
15:02
15 million for that thing. On
15:04
the low end. And that's
15:06
for an acre. If that house is on an acre. Never
15:09
mind 21 acres. That would
15:12
get you 21 acres of sunny slope. You'd
15:14
buy all the meth heads. Perfect. I
15:17
own several dozen meth addicts and a lot
15:20
of bicycles. Tons
15:23
of copper, but a copper
15:25
wiring and bicycles is what I own. So
15:28
here's a two bedroom, one bath, 1,246
15:30
square foot house on 160 acres. You're
15:38
paying for the land because the house
15:41
is a tiny little shit hole dump of
15:43
a house. So much so that they don't
15:45
show any pictures of the inside. Of
15:48
the outside, it's only like from a distance. It
15:51
gives you the idea of a house being over
15:53
there. And there's just pictures of
15:55
the land. So that's all there is to it. It's
15:57
rough. $100,000
16:02
that must be some fertile farmland or some shit under
16:04
the acres. Yeah, that's 160 acres Oh
16:07
god, I thought over 150. There's a whole
16:09
lot of Kansas right there. Yeah, yeah Things
16:13
to do you can see out of
16:15
all of Kansas. Yeah, Dorothy's over there.
16:17
I can see What
16:19
else is in Kansas? I don't know nothing so
16:23
Things to do here frontier days. Here
16:26
we go They've been coming out there
16:28
all the towns of a frontier day the
16:30
53rd annual frontier day here Live
16:33
music food beer garden and activities
16:35
for the kids. They're going to
16:37
music this day. Here we go peace
16:40
love and music a tribute to
16:42
the bands of Woodstock Nope.
16:45
Well The problem is the
16:47
bands of Woodstock that were really good You
16:50
probably don't have the musical ability to play
16:52
Jimmy Hendricks in Santana and like you're gonna
16:54
crank that out Probably not. I don't think
16:56
right No, I
16:58
don't know what bands are there is saying
17:01
of Woodstock. We're imitating of it's probably all
17:03
that shit But they're probably just playing a
17:05
CD just like one of each
17:07
band. Yeah, that'd be fun So
17:10
there's that that's a tribute thing there And
17:13
otherwise, there's like bounce houses and shit like
17:15
that. Not a lot going on then there's
17:17
festival on the trails Okay,
17:19
you can go on the trails and Enjoy
17:22
live music on Friday and Saturday night as
17:24
well as a kids own car show They
17:26
need to come up with different things for
17:28
these. Yeah, every couple of the same shit
17:31
Why call it frontier days if you've just
17:33
got local bands and bounce houses, that's not
17:35
that's what I mean How is that frontier?
17:37
It doesn't say anything about like, you know
17:39
candle making or some sort of like, you
17:41
know, shewing or yeah fucking Dugout
17:44
digging and fucking TP making like none
17:46
of that is on the on
17:49
there So yeah, and the other one
17:51
to festival on the trails is just we
17:53
are on it in the trails and then there's
17:55
bands playing I don't know what's going on there.
17:57
And then finally the Milldale Farm Fall Festival What
18:01
do they do? Well, you bring the
18:03
family and spend the day exploring the
18:05
Milldale farm property. Oh
18:07
boy. Yeah. And enjoy a
18:09
number of fall activities during this free public
18:11
event. It's
18:13
free and these are inviting people to his
18:15
farm? That's got... His insurance
18:17
has to be outrageous. Listen. Do
18:19
you just have random people there? Listen, why though? It's
18:21
a 22 acre deal that you can go
18:24
on. And if they call
18:26
it the region's premier venue for weddings,
18:28
family reunions, and corporate retreats and special
18:30
occasions. This is their way of advertising.
18:32
Yeah. You can be going, oh,
18:34
this is beautiful. And then you go, oh, well,
18:36
we should get married in April. This is perfect.
18:38
Let's just do it here. That's what they're doing
18:40
right there. Let's bring the corporate gang out here. We
18:43
can have corporate cow milk and everybody
18:45
will be happy. We'll sit your bridesmaids
18:48
on a bill of hay. There's a
18:50
pumpkin patch, a craft in the barn,
18:52
cider and coffee, roasting marshmallows, storytelling. This
18:54
sounds like a free event. None of
18:56
these things... Yeah. None of these
18:59
things cost money. Yeah. At
19:01
most, there's a tent involved here. There's not
19:03
any kind of structures or nobody's putting speakers
19:06
up or anything. This is gonna take
19:08
two bags of marshmallows to get the whole thing done. There's
19:11
sea a fire truck also.
19:13
Not touch. Sea. Kids,
19:15
look but no touch. Different. They usually
19:18
have touch a truck. Touch a truck. No, this is just
19:20
look with you touch with your eyes, kids. A
19:23
petting zoo, small fee for feeding
19:25
the animals, cash only. Yeah. Not
19:28
like they wouldn't have fed them anyway. And
19:30
then a
19:33
pancake breakfast with pancakes and sausage for
19:35
just $5 a plate. That
19:39
seems fine. And catch and release fishing.
19:43
Wave in the permits that day. You can just do it. Go
19:45
fish. And there's also gonna
19:47
be tractor drawn hay rides, disco, golf
19:49
and a DJ. What
19:52
the fuck is disco golf or disc golf,
19:54
not disco golf. Just go. Yeah,
19:56
and you put it over. Okay, froth
19:58
and perfect. There you
20:01
go. So crime rate in this town,
20:03
what we are here for, property crime
20:05
is about half the national average here.
20:07
So pretty safe to leave your shit
20:09
unlocked and fine. Violent
20:11
crime, murder-rape robbery, and of course, assault. The
20:14
Mount Rushmore of crime, less than
20:16
half of the average, under half the average. So
20:18
yeah, it's like a third of the average. Very
20:20
safe. Very nice place. Yeah. And it's only 40
20:22
minutes from Kansas City. So... It's not that bad.
20:25
No, if you work in Kansas City, this seems
20:27
like a decent place to go. If you
20:29
can find a house, I don't know. There's not
20:31
a lot available. So that said, let's talk
20:33
about some real fucking weird murder, okay? And
20:35
like I said, a lot of this is
20:38
going to take place in Overland Park, which
20:40
is a much bigger suburb of Kansas City
20:42
that is only about 15 minutes from here.
20:45
That's the thing. We're talking maybe
20:47
12 to 15 miles from
20:50
one site to another site that we're going to talk about.
20:52
So it's very close to Overland
20:54
Park and that sort of thing. So... Was
20:56
BTK in Overland Park? He
20:59
was Wichita, I thought. Wichita is a
21:01
different park. Yeah, but didn't he do something in
21:03
Overland Park? That sounds familiar with him too. It
21:05
does, doesn't it? Yeah, it does sound familiar there.
21:07
I'm not sure. I don't know why. I don't
21:09
know why he was the Wichita area, I know.
21:12
But yeah, that does sound familiar. Maybe he had to go
21:14
there for business. Was that one of the motels he used
21:16
to stay at all the time? Maybe. Maybe
21:18
the Disneyland parties and all that shit. Oh
21:23
man, we did a Patreon about BTK. Gross.
21:26
Some of his weirder stuff and wow,
21:28
is he a fucking weirdo, man. It
21:31
is... His Disneyland parties are
21:33
creepy. Look that up if you have
21:36
a strong stomach for
21:38
like middle-aged male self-gratification. You
21:46
need a strong stomach for it. So
21:49
let's talk about some people here. Let's
21:51
talk about Edward. Everybody calls him Ed.
21:54
Big Ed. Big Ed Hobson here.
21:56
Yeah. H-O-B-S-O-N. Ed Hobson.
22:00
He's born in 1942, that
22:02
is, and Ed's a
22:04
big, like a strong sturdy
22:08
blonde guy. He's Dutch. So
22:10
he's a former Allstate football star. He
22:13
was an Allstate player in high school.
22:15
He's a big, tough guy. And
22:18
he ends up being, he's in the Army
22:20
for a while in the early, late 50s,
22:22
early 60s. Oh.
22:25
Between Korea and Vietnam. He was in the sweet
22:28
spot there. He's got time there. Yeah. Decent
22:31
time. Decent time. So he's there.
22:33
I guess his aunt would take
22:35
him on trips around, like to
22:37
other countries. So he's been to a bunch of different
22:39
places all around the world. And he's also been in
22:42
the Army and gone around the world. So he's really
22:44
a well-traveled guy. And as
22:47
we're going to catch up with him, for
22:49
years and years, he's a mill worker at
22:51
the Ralston Purina factory. So
22:54
I think he makes dog food. I have to come
22:56
at home smelling like dog food every day. There's
22:59
one in Flagstaff, I believe. Yes, I think
23:01
so. Yeah. The smell of dog food,
23:03
I don't know what it is. It's just, I can't, ugh,
23:05
I don't want to smell it. The grease that's on it
23:08
that gets on your hands. I feel so bad for them.
23:10
And they fucking love it. I've
23:14
got this crazy. God, you guys are gross
23:16
and they know what good food is, we've
23:18
given them stuff. You
23:20
know what I mean? Do you want pieces
23:22
of cheese? Yeah, you've had, you've gotten steak. Yeah, yeah, that's what's
23:24
good because it is. You've had medium rare steak, and you loved
23:27
it and you eat it, you're shit food with the same gusto
23:29
and it's a little insulting I'm gonna be honest here. I'm
23:32
a little insulted that you eat those with the same
23:34
amount of gusto. How do you bury your face in
23:36
that bowl at the same rate
23:38
as you eat fucking filet at medium rare?
23:41
You're a jerk. Yeah, you're a jerk. I
23:43
swear to God. The only reason I gave it to you is because
23:45
it has that fucking ribbon of that thick chewy shit. Yeah,
23:48
yeah, yeah. I'm not gonna chew that. I'm full
23:50
and there's like two bites left. I'm not gonna save two bites
23:52
and then I want to throw it out and the dog looks
23:54
like they'd really enjoy it. There you go. Then
23:57
he eats fucking this kibble. Yeah, that just warms
23:59
them up. That's an appetizer to go eat his
24:01
shit. Yeah nasty. Yeah,
24:03
the cat food is even worse Oh my
24:06
that's why cat shit is the worst I think
24:08
so Don't tell a dog cuz
24:10
they Vaughn will eat
24:12
cat with the same gusto that he ate
24:14
my fucking steak. Fuck. Yeah Oscar
24:17
with the turkey shit Oscar and he sees a
24:19
turkey turd it is like really Delicacy,
24:22
I mean it would be like
24:24
if you were walking down the street and an
24:26
ice cream Sunday was on the sidewalk It's the
24:28
same reaction like a fresh one to just cherry
24:30
on top everything Oh the chocolate on my cheek
24:33
and a spoon next to it just saw wow
24:35
this was made for me That's what he looks
24:37
like someone loves me So
24:40
when he's 22 and in 1964 he is going to get married here
24:46
Which again, that's very common in 1964 to
24:49
get married at 22. He
24:51
marries a woman named Shirley peed T-e-e-d
24:55
Shirley Juanita teed Here
24:58
Juanita teed Wilson also because she
25:00
won't surely she's been married before
25:02
that's why she's got multiple names
25:05
She is divorced. She's 33 when
25:08
they get married Really? That's highly unusual
25:10
back then back then like if she has two
25:12
daughters as well a 14 year old and a
25:14
12 year old in 1964
25:18
a single mom who's 33 with a 14 year old and the
25:20
12 year old It was
25:22
right the most damaged of goods back then
25:24
like no No guys, it
25:26
would take a lot you got to find the right
25:29
guy to quote take that on You know what I
25:31
mean like that's fascinating because that's weird back to me
25:33
That's that's goods that are that are
25:35
doing okay You know I mean, but all the guys
25:37
wanted a 19 year old virgin back
25:39
then you know to marry You're
25:43
getting the 19 year old virgin the
25:45
homecoming queen that a man cast off and
25:48
that means he probably didn't fuck her very
25:50
much Which now well at least you know,
25:52
she is jacked about starting a new relationship
25:54
at least twice that we know of Fuck
25:58
she has two daughters good
26:00
relationship. LaLona is the one
26:02
daughter. She's 14 when they
26:04
get married in 1964 and
26:07
so she's only eight years younger
26:10
than him. Yeah. Interesting.
26:12
And Tani, T-A-N-I, or Tani,
26:15
she's 12 at the time. So
26:18
yeah, he's all about it,
26:20
loves it, doesn't loves... yeah, he takes the
26:22
kids as his own and that's
26:25
a lot of times back then too, it was
26:27
part of the reason people didn't want to
26:30
get a ready-made family is because a lot
26:32
of times when people broke up back then,
26:34
that was it. They didn't go see their
26:36
kids, they just separated and started new families.
26:38
So this is like if you were
26:40
gonna take the son, you weren't just like oh the stepdad
26:42
and the kids will be gone on the weekend. This is...
26:44
you're their dad now, period. You're 22 and now you have
26:46
a 14 year old. You're
26:49
22 when you have a ninth grader. How do
26:51
you feel about that? That is wild. That's wild.
26:53
That's a weird thing. But he's a real... It's
26:55
impossible for him to be her dad though, you
26:57
know what I mean? It's very hard. He's got
26:59
to be of anything just like an older brother
27:01
that gives good advice and shit like that. I
27:03
mean biologically, it would be impossible. There's no eight year
27:05
old that can drop a load, right? I would hope there's
27:07
not a lot of squirtin' eight year olds out there because
27:10
the world would be a real fucked up place, I would
27:12
say. Right? Yeah.
27:14
That'd be bad if eight year olds going, I'm
27:16
gonna take a shower for about 45 minutes. What?
27:19
What are you talking about? I don't do my laundry.
27:21
Yeah, no, watch Bluey. Get out of here. What are
27:24
you doing? So 19... That's
27:27
when they're getting married. So 1967, February
27:29
4th of 1967, they have a kid
27:32
together, Shirley and Ed have a kid
27:34
together. Ed and Shirley, by the way,
27:36
is a very sixties
27:38
couple's name, you know what I mean? This is Ed,
27:40
this is his wife, Shirley. This is people
27:43
from work that you meet at a barbecue. My
27:46
uncle were Rick and Shirley, same thing. There you
27:48
go, same shit. Yeah, that's Richard, right? Richard and
27:50
Shirley. His name was Ricky. Oh
27:53
my God. So
27:55
he's a retired NASCAR driver or something, right?
27:57
I figure that's... That's a good man.
28:00
can be when your birth certificate name is
28:02
Ricky. You're
28:06
just asking for DUIs, aren't you at that point?
28:08
Yes, he had so many. I
28:11
knew it. I knew it. It's mainly
28:13
because if I'm a cop and I
28:15
pull a guy over and he shows me his license and
28:17
on his license it says, Ricky, I'm
28:20
going to step out of the car, please. That's
28:22
good for a .08 right there. Just
28:26
your birth name being Ricky. .08. Boom. Well,
28:30
if we were going to leave his house, we'd have
28:32
to plan to leave about 45 minutes before the time
28:34
we wanted to leave because he was so drunk that
28:36
he would just start telling the same stories we'd heard.
28:39
Yeah. We're like, we know that time that
28:41
Dale Earnhardt came back from behind and won.
28:43
We know. Thanks, Ricky. Unbelievable. I'm
28:45
going to tell you about it again, man. Fucking
28:49
Ricky. Ricky, that's not even real. That
28:51
was Days of Thunder. What are you talking about? No,
28:54
no stripper point anybody over. Stop. No, that
28:56
did not happen. It was Tom Cruise and
28:59
Days of Thunder. You're way off, sir. No,
29:02
let me tell you another time I wheelchair race
29:04
down a whole hospital hallway. Same movie. There we
29:07
go, Ricky. You know what, Ricky?
29:09
I'm done with you, okay? You're
29:11
too drunk. Put your hands behind your back.
29:13
You're under arrest. That's him to the cop, not even to
29:15
you. He's telling the cop those stories. Ricky,
29:19
we said you failed. We
29:22
said you failed the sobriety. We didn't
29:24
say we wanted to hear your story.
29:28
They have a son together, and his
29:31
name is Kristin, C-R-I-S-T-E-N.
29:36
They call him Chris. Kristin
29:39
Hobson here, young Chris. They
29:42
have a nice house. They have a
29:45
nice family. He's got two ready-made
29:47
older sisters who are a lot older at
29:50
this point. Oh, fuck. They can certainly babysit.
29:53
They're like 17 and 15 now.
29:56
But I mean, he's not really going to ... The
29:58
age difference is that much. They don't really grow
30:00
up as siblings at that point. No, no. They
30:03
can almost breastfeed that kid. They're
30:05
more like an aunt whose
30:08
own kid died and we want to make her feel okay and
30:10
let her watch the kids. Fascinating. I
30:12
can't imagine being 17 with a
30:14
toddler child. Yeah. Sibling.
30:17
That's insane. That is different. You know
30:20
what I mean? And how about being Shirley who
30:22
has a 17-year-old and a fucking toddler. Wow. A
30:25
newborn and a 17-year-old. That
30:27
is a...man, that's a lot to process in your
30:29
brain of, you know... Yeah, but it's never seen
30:32
if you've got a toddler in... Yeah.
30:34
One's filling out college application, the other's filling
30:36
their pants. So you're like, this is way
30:39
different problems. Yeah. Then
30:41
I have to fucking negotiate with the two of you. That's
30:44
certain life skills though that you're learning
30:46
of how to sleep through a baby's
30:48
cry. That's going to be good
30:50
for you later. It's going to come in handy. So
30:53
it's a nice household. They raise Chris
30:55
very lovingly. And to
30:57
have an older mother at that point, she really
30:59
knows what she's doing. You know, in her late
31:01
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31:03
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33:24
it gets a lot of support. They
33:26
make a good living, not a lot
33:28
of struggles. Everything is fine.
33:30
Now the other, the girls
33:32
have some issues. Tawny
33:35
especially has some issues. The youngest? Yeah,
33:37
the youngest. At this point when he's born being
33:40
15, when
33:42
she's in junior high school, so it's
33:44
a couple of years before Chris is born, Tawny
33:47
is raped. Oh,
33:49
no. Yeah, that's horrifying
33:51
obviously. Do we know
33:53
by who? Well, that's the thing. Relatives
33:56
Say that she accused a 14-year-old
33:58
cousin of doing this. Ah,
34:00
Which is is even horrible. Even more
34:02
horrible not only because you should be
34:04
able to trust or fourteen year old
34:07
cousin but then also at Fort Team.
34:09
That probably means somebody did that to
34:11
that cousin south right A whole thing
34:13
as are bad cycle that flirt on
34:15
your old shouldn't be aware of of
34:17
house and worse things aren't evil, that's
34:19
crayon unless it's been done. So yet
34:21
when when kids that young do shit
34:23
it's for a stag you were taught
34:25
in only learned rights as learned Behavior
34:27
South But after investigating the police declined
34:29
to press charges. I'll. Even worse and now
34:31
she's get see this kid says gonna see
34:33
I'm hopeful that I too many Thanksgiving slutsky
34:36
let's leave filled with let's leave cousin Touchy
34:38
at home please you may leave him at
34:40
home because you know this is this. Your
34:42
family has a really want to say M
34:44
S so. Anyway, that's right
34:46
away as that's a hard thing to
34:48
come up. That's horrible. Very
34:50
horrible and then years later she
34:52
goes to the University of Missouri.
34:55
And. Says it does well in school and
34:57
everything like that. and she finds of a
34:59
manner of boy whatever you want to call
35:01
him and dates and falls in love with
35:03
them here. Strength and love of her life
35:06
Named Gary Hollingsworth. He's an engineering student who
35:08
was also in the Navy. Or.
35:10
Time. So very upstanding young man
35:12
whose engineer his mother fucker Yes,
35:14
very smart guy to If he's
35:16
a man mirroring students south, he's
35:18
see find somebody very smart and
35:20
nice and college just what the
35:22
parents wanted her to do was
35:24
gonna do. All that said, there's
35:26
some issues here. Ah, February nineteenth,
35:28
Nineteen Seventy three. Tiny.
35:31
Accidentally kills her boyfriend. Was.
35:34
Yes, this is not the murder by the way. So.
35:38
Do that. Let's see here. According to
35:40
the police reports, it was the evening
35:42
of February. Nineteen Nineteen Seventy Three. Tiny
35:45
goes to pick up Gary in a
35:47
local bar after friends had called at
35:49
her apartment and said that he was
35:51
too drunk to drive some ah, know,
35:54
he was too drunk. And Nineteen Seventy
35:56
three, Which means he can't walk to
35:58
the car. They
36:00
let him walk and he couldn't put the key
36:02
in the last to get it. And we're like
36:04
the went to the wrong car or you go
36:06
to the wrong car than if you get three
36:09
tries to put the key and a lock of
36:11
it you can't do it. Cigarettes a lot of.
36:13
so many of them started. yeah they gotta. you're
36:15
too drunk to drive. That's the test stack. that's
36:17
so they had to call her arms so friends
36:19
took her to the bar. And would
36:21
cause Gary have his pickup truck at the bar.
36:23
see some you give me a ride. not driver
36:25
struck home with this like and drug canadian it
36:28
south and no one's happy about that. No one's
36:30
happy to be called the late at night to
36:32
pick up your drunk boyfriend at the bar. But
36:34
I guess it's college scouts. kids do dumb shit
36:36
like that. But what ends up happening is an
36:39
argument ensues. Which is it's doesn't
36:41
really have a d to be sad In
36:43
for The Ivy talked about us. Yes, she's
36:45
wearing pajama bottoms and slippers. It. In
36:48
the bar parking lot. were waiting for him to
36:50
come outside and they get in the car. She's
36:53
not thrilled with this arrangement. Smells like wildfire to
36:55
get. this is not cool at all. He say
36:57
they have a as ago and. Visits.
37:00
The great survey like this now arrow on
37:02
a or that set up. Getting
37:05
the got soon argument ensues as
37:07
are driving and Gary says poverty
37:09
now I'm get as saddam walk
37:11
him. With. A Gary said done
37:14
that to begin with then yes all why the fuck
37:16
am I here? If you do a lot up and
37:18
you made me get up armor dry hour drive and
37:20
yeah it's it's it's a the happen and on five
37:22
to handcuff you to the seatbelt thing where front of
37:24
drive and. So he walks
37:27
a short distance and apparently decides
37:29
that may be walking isn't such
37:31
a great idea. I'm a little
37:33
hammered. his hands as much harder.
37:35
My thoughts: it's far and stuff
37:37
like that. Yeah, he tries to.
37:39
At that point he cuts across
37:41
the interstate. To. Try
37:43
to intercept Tammy on the way home because
37:46
seat in of you turn or whenever southsea
37:48
he's going over try to flag her down
37:50
on the other side of the interstate. Again,
37:53
so. I
37:56
guess when he tried to flag or
37:58
down see Lonnie. To. See three tries
38:01
to flag party down. Yeah see. hit him
38:03
with the truck and killed a. Vow.
38:07
It's dark. And. So.
38:10
There's. A lot of questions of what the
38:12
fuck went down exactly. Yeah, I'm he says
38:14
it's it's really difficult. She told a friend
38:16
the next day that she didn't see him
38:18
until it was too late. Ah,
38:21
some of the last second and die. She
38:23
told the frame quote this is horrible.
38:25
It was like the Twilight Zone. All
38:27
the sudden his face was right, my windshield.
38:29
She didn't see a dark, dark, dark
38:31
and then boom. You hear that the sound
38:33
of hitting someone has to be ungodly.
38:35
Horrible number one and then you your boyfriends
38:38
faces on the clock and windshield. That's
38:40
horrifying. He was looking at me with
38:42
the strangest not like why are you doing
38:44
this to me. Holy
38:47
shit man. Everybody.
38:49
Wonders whether. Gary.
38:52
Whether this was an accident or Gary threw
38:54
himself in front of the truck. As
38:57
he was so drunk and argument maybe he might have thrown
38:59
himself in front of a truck like I this is what
39:02
you did to me type of thing that. That.
39:04
Nobody knows if that's what happened or why
39:06
he didn't seem suicidal. Noble. None of his
39:08
friends thought he was suicidal and maybe it
39:10
was a suicidal to me that was just
39:12
out of that. Make her stop. This will
39:15
make of. Yeah, yeah yeah. but it's dark
39:17
and seven see her. as far as I
39:19
took his idol dark Kansas interstate, you know
39:21
the name. Ah, The problem is though, She.
39:24
Can't get over this tiny know and
39:26
does not give herself much of a
39:28
chance to because two days later. She.
39:31
Goes. She gets
39:33
her boyfriend shot gun and shoots
39:35
are some toniest committed suicide or
39:37
this a shot herself with a
39:40
shotgun over this war two days
39:42
later so. Before. the
39:44
funeral and or anything just couldn't handle.
39:46
It. Soon. Others to dead. He managed
39:48
to dead people. yeah, I mean and tiny.
39:51
I mean that. Guilt feelings of
39:53
probably been with her for a long
39:55
time and you know even him being
39:57
assaulted will make you have guilt feelings
39:59
and. Yes you probably can't go
40:01
home. As expected outcome for their because the
40:04
last time she had trauma with their families
40:06
are probably didn't go well either. we I
40:08
think will the family support her, the police
40:10
just and want to investigate the family. A
40:12
whole family though Enron and a wholesale gotta
40:14
be Howard's her household as a safe place
40:16
for nerds or white or. In
40:19
college I don't know his or her vision Felix
40:21
you could go to her parents are so i
40:23
don't know what are deal was months her for
40:25
her body was found by her mother to. See.
40:28
Surly found her arm. Oh by the
40:30
way, six year old cresses the one
40:32
who actually finds the by now yeah
40:34
they couldn't They were calling her and
40:37
couldn't get her to answer. So they
40:39
drove from Kansas City to Colombia and
40:41
when they went into her place christian
40:43
sects so he ran up ahead and
40:45
ran him and found his sister. Ended
40:48
with used to a shotgun suicide as
40:50
ugly tell I had him as he.
40:52
you know how they a six year
40:54
old cincy brains on along the that's
40:56
especially his sister's reins on well enough
40:59
alone that murder trials when they would
41:01
despise a boy's body and with came
41:03
up with a grain out. Your.
41:05
Whole it is laying there in the
41:07
that's for frame modifying. Player he
41:09
shot him the for a That's right he
41:11
shot that fucking kid didn't kill him and
41:14
and wet closer. And gonna hit
41:16
an ad in the heads are I'm an Irish
41:18
like a fucking mob hit. That's how mob yaddo
41:20
it and our senses are opened. It took his
41:22
whole brain out. That's a pretty unbelievable taught little
41:24
Michael the fucking kill people on the wire in
41:26
on a major, hit him in the body and
41:29
come up and finish the job like what's with
41:31
the city and are you a Bond Markets drug
41:33
hitman? What are you doing. So.
41:36
I'm this. Obviously this is
41:38
a huge tragedy. And
41:40
damn add has a hard time with
41:42
this even though it's not his real
41:44
daughter. Quote on quote is known her
41:46
for last twelve since he was a
41:48
child, announced his apologies raised or and
41:51
he now he was Aziz twenty years
41:53
old at the time and he says
41:55
it was not a suicide. He will
41:57
not. Really? One of those,
41:59
and at some. The will have a problem with
42:01
them. Sometimes it's legitimate and sometimes they just
42:03
can't imagine that their kid wouldn't have come
42:05
to them. For. I feel I'm It's
42:07
understandable. argue that they wouldn't know that
42:09
this was bubbling up or something south.
42:12
He. Said it's not a suicide and
42:14
will not be convinced that it as. He
42:17
said quote suicides don't cost as
42:19
much as homicides. Meaning.
42:22
Oh yeah, for the county, when they investigate
42:24
a suicide, they go up. It's a suicide
42:26
sleep in a done marry the gave. no
42:28
court case or any of that. You know
42:31
that you know big investigation, know detected as
42:33
know any of that. he said. I raised
42:35
her since she was twelve. I know it
42:37
wasn't suicide. They said it was a twenty
42:40
gauge shotgun and her arms were hardly twenty
42:42
inches long. She. Was legally blind without
42:44
her glasses and or glasses were found the
42:46
next room. You can't tell me she did
42:48
it. Now.
42:52
That's. That's. Tough because
42:54
you don't really need your glasses to. That's
42:56
why the shotgun in your mouth and zero
42:58
A needs and a lot of people to.
43:00
It's very very calm and I don't know
43:02
why I know this but it's very common
43:05
for people to wear glasses when they kill
43:07
themselves, they take their glasses off and they
43:09
sense they throw. I'm they break allow they
43:11
break A lot of scientists at a very
43:13
common signify broken glass and a suicide. They're
43:15
like don't need these anymore Fuck this and
43:17
they're yes, hate these things on my face,
43:19
all types annoying me, make my years banks.
43:21
Yes, it's interesting, never even thought about as
43:23
it happens. All the fucking time if you've
43:25
ever seen madman of when lame kills
43:27
himself in the Jagger tries to kill
43:30
himself in the Jaguar he breaks his
43:32
glasses first and then the the car
43:34
won't start that the sixties difficult her
43:36
whole fucking start is like goddamn and
43:38
I can't even go. Myself and a
43:40
half is holding broken glasses up to
43:42
his i as it for as he's
43:44
under the hood trying to fix whatever
43:46
is wrong so you can commit suicide.
43:48
This it's pathetic. The South it's sad.
43:50
So yeah he says that age I
43:52
kick are you can't tell me. That she
43:54
did it. And. That's just the way
43:56
it as is if it couldn't get
43:58
worse for for tiny. Okay, Obviously.
44:01
That junior high and so then and then
44:03
killing her boyfriend by i know she than
44:05
one a killer boyfriend of than killing herself.
44:07
She. Can even rest in peace. At
44:09
All. and neither of us have our family
44:11
the night before her funeral. Someone.
44:14
Broke into the funeral home and
44:16
defiles her body. Why? it's why
44:18
would you? Are that You fucking
44:21
Kidding me? I. Mean what's going
44:23
to? Why would I really I would say it's
44:25
are probably kids but why would kids kids be
44:27
scared of corpses in I mean him like let's
44:29
I would never. I. He it's
44:32
it's horrible man he he said
44:34
quote she was a mess meeting
44:36
tiny. Her. Blouse was
44:38
pulled out, her rosary was clear out
44:40
of her hand. Her rose was gone
44:42
we had in her hand. her hair
44:44
was all messed up. She was lying
44:46
over the back of the caskets. Her
44:48
skirt was all loose and wrinkled. Also.
44:52
Said that her belt was broken. And
44:54
her skirt was a mess and or raw,
44:57
her blouse had been split in the back,
44:59
her head was lying back over the pillow.
45:01
She was in a sitting position. Her legs
45:03
were spread apart, her mouth was open and
45:05
her eyes were open and wants us. Her
45:07
hair was quote unbelievable. They had to call
45:10
it an Emp. I'm embalmer to redo the
45:12
all black. Messiah? how
45:14
would that would say? Like melted
45:16
butter. As like a Mcdowell.
45:18
basically. Why? Would somebody do that?
45:21
I don't know. I don't know what kind
45:23
of a monster fucking lunatic would break into
45:25
a fucking funeral home and seven would break
45:27
it to a funeral home at the crazy
45:29
shit ever alleges a assault the body of
45:31
as as that's it I we don't know
45:33
and I know that shit. Sick. This is
45:35
sick of a poster like this. when they
45:37
posed are like I like a serial killer
45:40
poses a random that they've dance. And.
45:42
This is a body with a with a
45:44
gunshot wound yeah head or a I'm raising
45:46
as is a wild thing to do. So
45:48
I mean if you're a grieving parrot and
45:50
your next day is kids' funeral in the
45:52
morning they tell you, hold on a minute.
45:54
We have to send another embalmer overcome listen
45:56
to what they did or. I
45:59
mean do. We're paying. can you Indoor
46:01
season is right? That point wouldn't is yours.
46:03
If you the of evil there will be
46:05
like. Voided. We fuck up
46:07
with security we got was gonna not
46:09
tell anybody that stuff. I can't believe
46:11
they told anybody my yeah I've noticed
46:13
the embarrassment allow a the that are
46:15
you go you know a guy is
46:17
this one's on us marines your to
46:19
call a society though it's it were
46:22
to call this a freebie. We really
46:24
sort of was kept better watch over
46:26
the corpses. probably get that's a horrible
46:28
security wow least twenty percent off said
46:30
them had an outside of dollars at
46:32
this break on the coffin price. That
46:35
is horrible. Man Caesar So I don't know
46:38
if they did anything else to or this
46:40
happened in the seventies. I don't know if
46:42
they would have said like all these people
46:44
fucking broken into filed a corpse sexually, on
46:46
and off they put a paper really are
46:48
Now if they can to keep that under
46:50
wraps, the families of please don't put that
46:52
in the public sentiment that put it they
46:54
definitely posed are in a sexual way that's
46:56
fucked up. Which is absolutely the creepiest, weirdest
46:58
fuckin strangest thing I've ever heard. Any mobile
47:00
my life. months? We don't. We try not
47:02
to judge too much on your weirdest. We're
47:04
judging that hard. As bad as this. Guy
47:07
on we're not small town Murder
47:09
had be approved right? Everybody acts
47:11
way that please see a doctor
47:13
yeah that I cry got a
47:16
aca Jesus they please before you
47:18
do it again so add It
47:20
maintains always that she was fucking
47:22
murdered and that the Boon County
47:24
investigators had bungled the job and
47:26
Louis someone doing this to the
47:28
body extra convinced him it was
47:31
murder. Yeah. Because he's like,
47:33
yeah, they killed her I've ended has to do
47:35
or so. so it's It just adds to a
47:37
suspicion. So. Nineteen
47:39
Seventy Six comes around here.
47:42
Jesus Christ and. As
47:44
is horrible man armed he's about nine years
47:47
old, will press or guy and he's he's
47:49
had it rough ready to because he's already
47:51
found his dad's sister. In
47:54
a horrible way. his mother
47:56
is diagnosed with cancer. Surly
47:59
now. And. Is.
48:01
She ends up basically being a hospital
48:03
for two years between seventy five and
48:05
it's and seventy. Sexy system and hospital
48:07
the whole time. I know it's answer
48:09
I: Liver cancer. Ah, since liver cancer
48:12
in the mid seventies. So married and
48:14
is known as is Nothing that can
48:16
do over forty years ago. Yeah, there's
48:18
nothing that can be done for that
48:20
shit sour. It's really brutal. see, basically
48:22
just. It was as as weather's
48:25
in pain for two years Mass Final. So.
48:27
She is gonna end up dying at the end
48:29
of Nineteen, Seventy Six and Arsenal Some Alice, poor
48:31
cat has really? whom? He's. Been
48:34
through it. you know what I mean. It
48:36
was all as as ads been through it
48:38
though. I mean is having a hard time.
48:40
everybody's having a hard time here on you
48:43
know he keeps in touch with the other
48:45
stepdaughter as much as he can seize older
48:47
so I mean you know, whatever and he
48:49
tries to get close to caress and and
48:51
embrace Press and hold and plus or every
48:54
summer they'd go hunting and fishing. they go
48:56
to a family farm and King City, Missouri
48:58
hell and be a said they were doing
49:00
press. Loved using the twelve gauge shotgun. In.
49:04
Love that. He said he kid was a
49:06
hell of a shot with that thing when
49:08
he was out there. Eleven twelve hours on.
49:10
it's a lotta gone for an eleven year
49:12
olds the city since you're barely is doing
49:14
without. Yeah he said the one that was
49:17
like his gun was at a Belgian made
49:19
single shot thirty nine, ninety five special. A
49:21
cheap gun he said does the cheap twelve
49:23
gauge but in one shot of the times
49:25
I big deal but I'm ill he's gotten
49:27
learned how to use a shotgun. so so
49:30
so A little bit about add here I'm
49:32
as a strange guy. It
49:34
depends on who you talk to, what
49:36
they say about. Add add. Has.
49:38
A temper. He. Flies off the
49:40
handle is also a soft spoken guys
49:43
you feel bad for a he's a
49:45
real bad people keep using the word
49:47
paradox or families are real paradox and
49:49
yeah strains guys I'm his minister. Praised.
49:52
Him as a caring and religious. And
49:54
other people said he was violent and vengeful.
49:57
South. Those. Are
49:59
interesting. Things are. John Adams is
50:01
an associate pastor at the Leewood Baptist
50:03
Church. said he considers at a friend
50:06
and trusted ally. He said I find
50:08
at a very warm and caring person,
50:10
a man whose deeply religious. There might
50:12
have been times when he did have
50:15
some problems, but considering what he's been
50:17
throw, I think he's a very nice
50:19
man. In. Monday through Saturday
50:21
is a motherfucker. on Sunday League,
50:23
nobody's nicer. On Sunday there's a
50:25
twenty in that basket as I'm
50:27
getting better at an important part
50:29
Air south of people said though
50:31
he was a of just like
50:33
a set a paradox At one
50:35
point he said no one steps
50:37
on my toes that I don't
50:39
step on back. And. Said that
50:42
quote he put in the newspaper that. Of.
50:44
When he was talk to about and you
50:46
get for an it you can print that
50:48
shit. yeah wow. people says he's have a
50:50
real quiet demeter like a few, a quiet
50:52
blog midwestern man and then violent outbursts would
50:54
happen if they said that was typical of
50:56
add enough he didn't wear a good enough
50:58
helmet in high school, he played football or
51:00
what the fuck up and but he's gotten
51:02
like that, he's got city or something like
51:04
Tramon top of it. oh yeah, all sorts
51:06
of from on top and I think that's
51:08
probably what it as do that he was
51:10
also in the military. we don't know what
51:12
he dead or saw over there. Too so.
51:15
We. Have no idea what has mental status
51:17
as sore arm One person said he is
51:19
in a rational man a contradiction, but the
51:21
best way to describe him as that he's
51:24
a survivor. And he's
51:26
gotta be as is. go out to
51:28
survive now. Relatives of Shirley his
51:30
wife A here said that the marriage
51:33
at times was happy and at times
51:35
was violence. As well, they did not have
51:37
a perfect. Idyllic little I fear that
51:39
people panic. not from the outside. Added
51:42
as a spot it's a great live here
51:44
at. Admits that there was a lot of
51:47
screaming and said sure and said yes surely
51:49
did pull guns on people. But.
51:53
He denies ever polygons on anyone personally.
51:55
because yes we the on screen and
51:57
we'd fight in just became the door.
51:59
Surely my cum laude Aura Zoc are
52:01
you never know. She pulled guns on
52:03
people. Which means multiple different gods and
52:05
multiple different people. What was up with
52:07
Surly Floral Above still exists. Christ where
52:09
I wish you like I just fix
52:11
or come out on the porch gone
52:13
concert. get off my property like what
52:15
the fuck man. That
52:18
is insane Why Salazar Miller
52:20
Beer. Wow. Like an
52:22
old this is. I mean like all as
52:25
times like any are easy to Annie Oakley
52:27
style. One relatives said quote it was weird.
52:29
Yeah this is weird. Hudson's were sent a
52:31
whole thing is weird. So far the whole
52:33
story's weird. Said it was weird. It was
52:35
nothing at all for the phone to ring
52:37
in our house at four am and my
52:39
parents would have to go over to their
52:41
house and break up a fight between them.
52:44
Sued. Call for help or he would
52:46
call the our heads would call for help.
52:48
Ah my daughter's would go Can you come
52:51
over here before you know Dad hits mom
52:53
and mom shoots dad please? Oh my God
52:55
is or have and blow ups not down
52:57
drag out fights? Yeah fights that need to
52:59
be intervened upon. Know that's a fight. Yeah
53:01
I mean sites that are going to break
53:04
up on their on their own volition as
53:06
does the relative. Went on to say you
53:08
could go over there any light of the
53:10
week and find them up. We. Were
53:12
young we thought it was fun was. Has.
53:16
What's fun about that? Was going to go
53:18
break up and add nagusa are glad naturally
53:20
again I to larry us let's go come
53:23
on. An enlightened about
53:25
how funny was it. ah she's got gun
53:27
to or head and he took a swing
53:29
adders and rape. where the fuck are we
53:31
talking about here he said. Now that I
53:33
think back on it, it was pretty strange.
53:35
Gap. There Yeah, in retrospect, I would
53:37
say so. So that's that's who we're talking
53:40
about. So now Add is a. A
53:42
real paradox in a real contradiction of
53:44
character. And it's just him and press
53:46
and that's it. Him: Ever, you know,
53:49
like a ten year old said no
53:51
as espouse, this is like a movie
53:53
is what it sounds like. He had
53:55
come in with his ten year old
53:57
and and he's trying to give the
53:59
child and plan. You can get him to
54:01
try to forget a these ryan. Tragedy.
54:03
That began as fall in this family you
54:05
found your sister, your mom's fuck him that
54:07
this isn't gun or a small child in
54:09
out stuff. So. He ends
54:11
up giro kicking around for several months and
54:14
done that really not meet many bodies is
54:16
going to hang out with the cabin, train
54:18
at work and do his thing and then.
54:21
He's. Going to meet somebody here. I.
54:23
A little while later he meets a
54:25
woman named Sue Ann. Es you eat
54:28
a and any Sue Ann but one
54:30
word. Yeah yeah. But it
54:32
should be. It's weird of a lot of
54:34
hours straight together like move one see in
54:37
the others that you he a right in
54:39
a row. Their Gansu amp Sue and Sally
54:41
as her name as a L L E.
54:43
so there's a fuck load of owls. inertia
54:46
at an all access allows man as. As
54:49
a lot so I'm if you take the
54:51
l of the and out there's nothing else
54:53
is really the only other ones are there's
54:55
the only three continents and or whole name
54:58
as allen and and that say. Wow.
55:01
Or Stl any on on Wheel of
55:03
Fortune would not her name. Right up
55:05
our be done is like him on
55:07
all your gun eyes of you. We
55:09
were valley of opiates as who am
55:11
and Sally and possibly sees born in
55:13
Nineteen Forty Three so she's a year
55:15
younger than Add. And ah she's
55:17
described as as a slim of
55:19
red haired secretary. Or
55:22
he says she's pretty, has red hair, And
55:24
is thin. He
55:26
meets her at a skating rink where she
55:28
worked part time. Of. Dollars
55:31
in there is yeah, what the fuck is
55:33
add a at. Thirty. Seven
55:35
years old? thirty six right? All this
55:37
said only gave them ever north of
55:39
maybe that's what it is. I don't
55:41
As him a good day said he's
55:43
a he's hit not women. That's hilarious.
55:45
It. Brings. Us as better than
55:47
a public holiday animal try to find you
55:49
a mosque of the a keeper I but
55:51
I got to the extra half hour rick
55:53
that go in circles circle circle over. Seventy
55:56
get are going to go to the snack
55:58
bar and I am at a get a
56:01
pretzel at a mile the rear. Heard of
56:03
better things I'm gonna grab. You want a
56:05
soda? So fragile? A new mommy here again
56:07
that's a nachos, a mom and a soda.
56:09
Okay gotcha. Three dollars an hour. Keep as
56:11
our ten and because it's so yeah they
56:14
they they get together. She is a divorce
56:16
single mother as well. That's
56:18
great. See. Brings with heard
56:20
of this relationship a daughter named
56:22
Suzanne. Not. Sue an exam
56:25
which is as you see
56:27
A and any. Say. So
56:29
and and he was one of them
56:31
it a motherfucker. again I'm Suzanne that
56:33
he can't to say silk that's mouth
56:35
and zoo and Suzanne that started call
56:37
her Susie I guess the ice give
56:40
every color Suzanne the say office com
56:42
say why they call her Sue and
56:44
of they colors is an upset. So
56:46
Suzanne as two years older than Chris.
56:49
In the same ballpark, you know that
56:52
size ready made cistern celebrities and anyway
56:54
that's nice. I'm so what they they
56:56
met accidentally just while they were at
56:58
the skating rink but sue and said
57:00
it was not an accident with anything
57:02
but an accident. She. Had been
57:05
anticipating this meeting for two years. Who.
57:08
Assisted fuckin' manner since last float
57:10
Mary Jacobs the North Kansas City
57:13
site. A psychic told me that
57:15
I would need a blind man
57:17
at work. She
57:19
told me two years before that he would be
57:21
supporting a child and that he was alone. Why
57:24
would help me be alone? If you're going to
57:26
meet him in, hook up on them, can be
57:28
married for twelve years to be very happy, but
57:30
you're going to say fuck all at suck his
57:32
dick in the bathroom and he's yours for. The
57:34
psychic told me. So.
57:38
They're going. To meet up see seem like
57:40
the perfect wife candidate for him. He
57:42
starts same age Cnn as your it
57:44
makes sense. Said. She was
57:46
real attractive, very well organized, a really
57:48
good mother. Her daughter seem like enough
57:50
like pretty and well cats and shit
57:53
like you know wasn't Mom does a
57:55
good dirty or anything of yeah and
57:57
malnourished and dirty or anything like that.
58:00
The to be good and she
58:02
had willingly accepted. Add add told
58:04
her about you has passed of
58:06
tragedy and higher and everything else
58:08
and she was like oh my
58:10
god that's terrible and you know
58:12
was supportive of him. South Seas
58:14
now Ah she had been divorced
58:16
for years now. About
58:18
eight years. At this point,
58:20
I had left her husband
58:22
James Crumb C R M
58:25
C R U M M
58:27
James Crumbs and their son
58:29
James Crumb Jr and just
58:31
suck Suzanne along. But lest.
58:34
Leaving. Son left jimmy from
58:36
behind. That. Are observing. Jimmy.
58:38
Trump Junior gets left behind was it
58:40
is a C said you keep him
58:42
and I'll take this one. Are
58:46
so. Poor. Jimmy Crumb Jr
58:48
is days with dad. Doesn't talk to
58:50
mom for about ten years. she wasn't
58:52
even talk to him, Doesn't call him.
58:55
Several. Years Innocence is nothing they have, Not
58:57
even a card. Nothing's as mature. Have a mom
59:00
for that what? And years now. And he was
59:02
as Lil Kim at the time. He was like
59:04
i don't ruin his yeah yeah thanks. Mom.
59:06
Last visit us in my sister and said i don't
59:09
want you in the never call back again yeah that
59:11
ah fuck it up I would say. Real
59:14
bad. Where's the lots of trauma
59:16
happening with his like psychiatry as
59:18
everywhere like all my god the
59:20
bills I would be charging to
59:22
be ahead of we're destroying children
59:24
and every ten minutes is another
59:26
on this another hard hard drives
59:28
you like about their our it's
59:30
so they I'll add and and
59:32
on the I add the and
59:34
abu I swam as an hour
59:36
Suzanne. And I could get out of
59:38
my mouth at once is ads added sue
59:40
and have a nice romantic connection between them.
59:42
It's pretty and stint as they begin seeing
59:45
each other. There. We go at decides
59:47
to propose to are. Really?
59:49
Like why mean shit? What are we waiting for
59:51
here? We both have all these kids. Let's just
59:53
get him in the same house and early bills
59:55
yes us to slice and he only like thirty
59:58
six, thirty seven at a time. when buggery. So
1:00:00
before they decide they decided to
1:00:03
get married. though they agreed to
1:00:05
see a marriage counselor to work
1:00:07
out problems that they anticipated might
1:00:09
surface. Haven't.
1:00:12
Written surface. Have. It serves
1:00:14
a note from gets hoping the men
1:00:16
skills to be able to handle the
1:00:18
fact that because they have both kids
1:00:20
coming from broken homes and he and
1:00:22
one is receives and tragedy as mom
1:00:24
died that is going to get a
1:00:26
new mom that's probably going to be
1:00:28
a problem Will Ah Suzanne hasn't had
1:00:30
a dad and ten years we'll see
1:00:32
take to add as a new father
1:00:34
figure and these it's I saw the
1:00:36
land. Gonna look at my boy and
1:00:38
see her boy and treat him like
1:00:40
dog shit To say have always receive
1:00:42
just hate. To say two little
1:00:44
boys as the from this ah shit
1:00:47
so the they they thought the counselor
1:00:49
be able to aid them with routine
1:00:51
problems but you know all that kind
1:00:53
of shit. South Sudan takes an interest
1:00:55
in the children though and impress especially
1:00:58
our and I. Little Crest seats are
1:01:00
one time goes to talk to one
1:01:02
a crysis teachers before at ensue and
1:01:04
or even married here. Also that's involved
1:01:07
mom yes I mean his mom's dead.
1:01:09
This is like overboard at this point.
1:01:11
You know she's she's got right, they're.
1:01:13
Gonna. See I This
1:01:15
is from the teacher Mrs. Shank. She said
1:01:18
she told us there had been some difficulties,
1:01:20
that Chris was a problem and that he
1:01:22
was hard to get along with, and that
1:01:24
he caused difficulty between all the members of
1:01:27
the family. And.
1:01:30
Stuff. See also Add also told the
1:01:32
teacher that she wanted to delay her marriage
1:01:34
to Add. Until Chris could
1:01:36
receive help. But. That as really
1:01:38
wanted to get the marriage go in and
1:01:40
over with South is divulge the sit to
1:01:43
the teacher see tell the teacher so airedales
1:01:45
the teacher all as South. Get.
1:01:47
You a book and that's weird though I'm in
1:01:50
a make sure that the kids that a pain
1:01:52
in the ass the for a man that is
1:01:54
kind of us at tough you know raise my
1:01:56
kids seats are get a couple of facts about
1:01:59
their my kids their name in their age of
1:02:01
that you teach him the rest. Let's talk about
1:02:03
everything else. I got ya in as well and
1:02:05
was even down of shit see thought they were
1:02:08
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December Nineteen Seventy eight she says
1:04:43
okay, I'm ready to take the
1:04:45
plunge and sue Arab and add
1:04:47
get married. They purchase a new
1:04:49
home in a very nice neighborhood
1:04:52
in Overland Park, Kansas and they
1:04:54
lived together with little Suzanne. And
1:04:57
will Chris. So they do it. And
1:04:59
so it's go and find. Everything appears
1:05:01
to be okay. Nobody's. Been
1:05:03
called the breakup flights nobody's Vegas. As
1:05:06
soon as and pull that he guns
1:05:08
on anybody that's got to resist. Then
1:05:10
Jimmy Junior comes a knock him. He.
1:05:13
Holds him he junior comes
1:05:15
back in the text or
1:05:17
here he drove over. Well
1:05:19
the thing is it's add
1:05:21
that convinces Swam to bring
1:05:23
Jimmy Junior to the house.
1:05:25
Really? See. So he so how can
1:05:27
you have not talk to your son in. Fuck.
1:05:30
Him. Nine years that's in the
1:05:32
same. Bring. Him here. That's not
1:05:34
the she would talk about how the father said
1:05:36
Jay a Jimmy Crumb seniors not a good father and
1:05:38
is a piece of shit novice and he was
1:05:40
like. We. Have a nice house and all
1:05:42
the stuff. Bring him here. will fuck and
1:05:44
raised in. this is crazy so how could
1:05:46
you leave? Or as a boy with a
1:05:48
piece of shit. That. That's the thing
1:05:51
and that's exactly what it was. So
1:05:53
he said that he asked odd that
1:05:55
at himself said he asked Jimmy will
1:05:58
Jimmy Junior to move in. The
1:06:00
home. Because. One time they
1:06:02
went to have what when he had talked
1:06:04
her into going and seeing him at least
1:06:06
picking him up and visiting him they went
1:06:08
to pick him up where he was staying
1:06:10
with his father and his father's new wife
1:06:12
and add said quote it was brutal I
1:06:14
wouldn't treat an animal the way they were
1:06:17
treating gentleman just terrible they said he didn't
1:06:19
have any like decent clothes are you know
1:06:21
what he was he was he was like
1:06:23
fourteen at the time and he what wasn't
1:06:25
going to school most the time because he
1:06:27
would pick up day work and shit like
1:06:29
they would let the kids do day labor.
1:06:31
Shit, instead of going to ninth grade, stuff like
1:06:33
there was a listen. I'm right
1:06:35
near here in the near miss him
1:06:37
move to Kansas City suburbs sees of
1:06:40
yeah it's it's fucking strange so I'm
1:06:42
no good. There was problems
1:06:44
immediately here at you and that was
1:06:46
just the kids melding and both kids
1:06:48
can read suzanne and address both Kind
1:06:50
of. I rebelled a little bit against
1:06:53
this whole thing once they got married
1:06:55
and then Jimmy Junior comes into the
1:06:57
picture and that's a there's a little
1:06:59
more struggle to get plenty of reasons
1:07:01
the masses gotta as used area are
1:07:03
all these kids have a lot of
1:07:05
anger are reasons to my angry as
1:07:07
the problem south I'm add said we
1:07:09
had problems yes but any two people
1:07:11
regardless of their walks of life that
1:07:13
get married. Or going to have problems. We.
1:07:15
Were bringing my son and her daughter and
1:07:17
we bringing for totally different people from all
1:07:20
walks of life into one household and we
1:07:22
knew there was going to be some jealousies
1:07:24
and some bickering back and forth which is
1:07:26
why they went to counseling outside the anticipated
1:07:29
this stuff cel eastern. Seem. Healthy
1:07:31
enough to know there might be problems at
1:07:33
accents. I saw them. that guy to get
1:07:35
it. But. Ah,
1:07:37
the problem as. They.
1:07:39
Invite as insist that Jimmy move into.
1:07:41
Will Jimmy generous going to move and
1:07:44
yeah we gotta get amount of that
1:07:46
fucking a virus that's bullshit south. they
1:07:48
bring him semi Jr and she mom
1:07:50
here who hasn't done shit for him
1:07:52
and ten years as very high expectations
1:07:55
of him. That he
1:07:57
be very well put together he is get good
1:07:59
grades is. You know all this different shit
1:08:01
now. Meanwhile, she has no idea what he's been
1:08:03
doing. He's been doing day labor because he hasn't
1:08:06
gone to school and stuff like that. He hasn't
1:08:08
been raised well. So now she's got she's act
1:08:10
now. Act like a kid who's been raised perfectly.
1:08:13
Accurate. And kid whose mother didn't run away
1:08:15
on him and not see if I in
1:08:17
call for ten years act like vaseline. Now
1:08:19
it's leave it to beaver this. Yeah totally.
1:08:21
So he starts to. Rebel a
1:08:24
little bit or he'll eventually after a little
1:08:26
bit of of a while here who end
1:08:28
up getting his own apartment? Jimmy.
1:08:31
Yeah when he sixteen the list goes
1:08:33
on apartments south I'm I guess she they
1:08:35
say that zoo and was rude toward
1:08:37
Jimmy her own son. Ah and see the
1:08:39
thing is though everybody said that see hated
1:08:41
press the staff son did not like
1:08:43
them at all, couldn't walk and stand and
1:08:46
thought he was a real pain in
1:08:48
the ass. Doesn't like her son or the
1:08:50
steps on a full price. really not
1:08:52
it with Boyce Idaho now but she hates
1:08:54
of i see hated him so much he
1:08:57
would even call them names in front
1:08:59
of other people are shit. Like that
1:09:01
which is tough see a set of
1:09:03
starting in Nineteen Seventy Nine. She started
1:09:05
talking to Jimmy Junior about sending press
1:09:07
to a mental hospital or sending him
1:09:09
off to military school or just something
1:09:11
where he's not in my house. She
1:09:13
was. Get rid of him. Get rid
1:09:15
of them. So wherever it as I
1:09:17
don't care commit him, send him no
1:09:19
military school. I'll give a shit as
1:09:21
Adam asks why harm. Them.
1:09:24
Around Nineteen eighty. She.
1:09:26
Kept saying that she wanted to get she hopes he
1:09:28
can get rid of them before christmas. Because.
1:09:30
She doesn't want to have to spend money on Christmas.
1:09:32
Our. Lives.
1:09:35
Out by the end of this year we gotta
1:09:37
get him either in a mental hospital, our military
1:09:39
school or somewhere where I don't have the by
1:09:41
impressive kids are not alchemy arrival in at all
1:09:44
of yeah would I think he doesn't come home
1:09:46
for military school for Christmas for I have you
1:09:48
seen the rest. Give me a fucking break. As
1:09:50
a stress the time they get rid of them
1:09:52
do that's it. You're can still have to buy
1:09:54
presents I guess as time went on she liked
1:09:57
him less and less and less to the point
1:09:59
where as he. In all room she'd
1:10:01
walk out of a room. was an interest
1:10:03
in seeing credit a lot so and wants
1:10:05
nothing to do with her step son who
1:10:08
has been a twelve going on thirteen at
1:10:10
this point late seventy nine, early eighties. That's
1:10:12
bizarre shit. It's fucking weird. It's weird mc
1:10:14
her own son terribly all South Sudan Though
1:10:17
everybody says he's fine with Suzanne was she
1:10:19
must be because she took him sit up
1:10:21
or whether and has had or whether for
1:10:24
awhile south's Jimmy has a lot of issues.
1:10:26
Jimmy Junior Let's just say all Jimmy Junior
1:10:28
admitted that he started drinking. Alcohol around
1:10:30
ten. Pm. Like
1:10:33
just casually not like a drink like he
1:10:35
started drinking like has been a long day
1:10:37
in. our guests get to relieve it with
1:10:40
some booze. have a big plug out
1:10:42
of this. Yeah yeah he started stealing after
1:10:44
that two and a lot of it was.
1:10:46
There was very little parental supervision with him
1:10:49
at all from his dad's side or
1:10:51
he was also into drugs cities into drugs
1:10:53
and yes so yeah he I'm the later
1:10:55
on when ads asked why the gym it
1:10:57
with Jimmy Junior come to live with
1:10:59
you add said because I asked him to
1:11:02
Everybody deserves. A good start. I just felt sorry
1:11:04
for the kid. He. Explained
1:11:06
that he delivered with the former
1:11:08
husband had ship closed, would go
1:11:10
to work instead of school and
1:11:12
that he said though Jimmy Crumb.
1:11:15
When. He came in affected the families adjustment, they
1:11:17
were all adjusting to each other than the
1:11:19
first year sour than if you throw in
1:11:21
a wild card like out of his fifteen
1:11:23
year old, who the fuck him, drug problem
1:11:25
and a penchant for stealing and he can
1:11:27
really. Do.
1:11:29
You can really throw the whole thing at
1:11:32
all Worley burn at that point. it's a
1:11:34
mess. Thomas.that's a valid senior old, wearing clothes
1:11:36
too small for him to get pissed off
1:11:38
when high waters now. And yeah, there's no
1:11:41
flood, mother fucker. I know that. Ready to
1:11:43
throw down over the actually hurt And enough
1:11:45
from kids' schools dire last words: sort cauterize.
1:11:47
Know this. Sox. His
1:11:50
Ah ads said if everything was going
1:11:52
Jimmy's way, everything was fine. If it
1:11:55
wasn't, there was hell to pay. Is
1:11:58
about Jimmy. Yeah, Guess
1:12:00
Jimmy Graham refused to attend a
1:12:02
family counseling sessions with the rest
1:12:04
of the family. They found not
1:12:07
only Wieters room, they also found
1:12:09
Coke. they found acid. His.
1:12:11
Don't and off a whenever he get his
1:12:14
hands on it butt of his room
1:12:16
then they find it. He also got into
1:12:18
trouble using stolen credit cards an early night
1:12:20
teenage girls. Yeah. Jimmy Crumb at that
1:12:22
point. After that, he moved out of the
1:12:24
house in early Nineteen eighty and into an
1:12:26
apartment. And. It was own apartment. His.
1:12:30
Really weird. Jimmy was a
1:12:32
really bad student. Wow. That
1:12:34
sounds like they're talking about me and I
1:12:36
so this is the both of us. This
1:12:38
is a as as bad if you don't
1:12:41
know my whole family. Comedy is the only
1:12:43
place where I'm called James My the white
1:12:45
That's literally the only place on earth. When
1:12:47
I started comedy in Phoenix there was like
1:12:49
twelve guys named Jimmy you're living a Ceo
1:12:51
of and I said why can't be fucking
1:12:54
jammy as I as I guess I'm James
1:12:56
now and I've never been called or use
1:12:58
the word James of my entire fucking life
1:13:00
before not owning early in the local Phoenix
1:13:02
Tommy it's like area on. Everyone in there
1:13:05
are so many Jimmy's and of every late
1:13:07
night show three or four of them at
1:13:09
a class named Jimmy was fucking ridiculous as
1:13:11
too much as like i can't do this
1:13:14
anymore I gotta be I that southsea. Whenever
1:13:16
I hear this I hear my family saying
1:13:18
the semi was not a very good student.
1:13:20
yes I know Okay I didn't do it
1:13:23
and you know what is it worked out
1:13:25
fine. Diana the an accent now. And
1:13:28
also apparently blame you guys. He started
1:13:30
now May yeah well fuck are you
1:13:32
get destroyed. Me They blame. I don't
1:13:34
know. I don't know when I was
1:13:36
real and set me up for success,
1:13:38
useless and yards with mouse. They said
1:13:40
that his grades were normally their failures
1:13:42
or just inferior is that bees or
1:13:44
worse? and they said it. If anything,
1:13:46
they got a little worse as he
1:13:48
grew older as grade stamps. Yes, he'll
1:13:50
end up dropping out a high school.
1:13:53
Oh. And by early Nineteen eighty
1:13:55
here first couple months of Nineteen Eighty
1:13:57
after he gets in apartments is going
1:13:59
to. Roommate and everything. He drops acid,
1:14:01
he does coke and says that he
1:14:04
has at this is remarkable. This is
1:14:06
like a professional wrestler. Level of tolerance.
1:14:08
Eric yes. He did an average
1:14:11
of a hundred to a hundred and
1:14:13
fifty value per day. He said a
1:14:15
hundred to one hundred and fifty. There's.
1:14:17
There's no way. I. If you build
1:14:20
up to a yeah, the wrestler Raven talked about
1:14:22
when he went into rehab in the nineties, he
1:14:24
was due in about one hundred and seventy five
1:14:26
perks of that. Actually was don't and
1:14:28
they told him holy shit you're gonna die if
1:14:30
we stop you doing this like you have had
1:14:32
a regatta When you off man this is that
1:14:35
wire one though. But. Yes, I as
1:14:37
I get it is just like us. It's
1:14:39
a banner. Yeah, yes, it's not like heroin.
1:14:41
Did I hear hundred at Oh My God?
1:14:43
I don't know what you have. I know
1:14:46
there's different. Milligrams on Nauseated are small. Was
1:14:48
sued. Eight Mills on Madrid succumbed a day.
1:14:50
Hundred on the doesn't matter how you get
1:14:52
that many. Have you ever heard that many
1:14:54
at that? Eighty six teams from forget affording.
1:14:57
How do you have access to the other
1:14:59
Not you can afford it. Will my father
1:15:01
walk in level? We did sipping on eighth
1:15:03
when I was sixteen At all of us
1:15:05
who authored. Five dollars and get a bug in
1:15:08
a been bugging me I yeah we had that
1:15:10
now and we'd some other the eighth my that's
1:15:12
all we had one hundred for if we could
1:15:14
us if we can afford an ounce we would
1:15:16
have smoked at a hundred value we did than
1:15:18
the one with the for her to sets were
1:15:20
like five to seven dollars a pill right and
1:15:22
out and I know you're more than that now
1:15:24
I don't know what they were nights I can
1:15:26
imagine what a what a per capita of alley
1:15:28
imposters, sides and box like value of were a
1:15:30
lot more com and back then though trailing that's
1:15:32
is Gail Us drive road rule com as yeah
1:15:34
if you went to the doctor when I get.
1:15:36
Nervous sometimes a guy is a volume of
1:15:38
these give us to take the value as
1:15:40
like that number I Henry Hill in Goodfellas
1:15:42
A doctor took mercy I'm He gave me
1:15:44
to rally him and told me that I
1:15:47
can tell me to rest is just like
1:15:49
there's a series a civilian at every every
1:15:51
movie in the eighties did the the housewife
1:15:53
was drinking shard ne and taken to three
1:15:55
volume. yeah because as you aside house and
1:15:57
nobody could soccer and Mrs is a mess.
1:16:00
Why do I do idea? Guess so.
1:16:02
He also Jimmy reads at a much
1:16:04
lower grade level than where he is
1:16:06
which yeah and wouldn't go to counseling
1:16:08
sessions. Like I said, they found drugs
1:16:10
in his bedroom, stolen credit cards, all
1:16:12
this type of shit South Chris On
1:16:14
the other hand, he goes to Indian
1:16:17
Creek Junior High School. He was enrolled
1:16:19
in a remedial course called the Learning
1:16:21
Center which is the. Remedial.
1:16:23
Version of that. Arms Basel good.
1:16:26
Over. The from seventy nine into eighty
1:16:28
his grades had been coming up three. the
1:16:30
not at the I turned it all around.
1:16:33
Eyes of his grades went from season these
1:16:35
tae Bees and A's. Not. As
1:16:37
he in here, his father said he picked
1:16:39
up so much he'd spend hours up there
1:16:41
in his bedroom studying. He wanted to be
1:16:44
a computer programmer while he fucking nailed it's
1:16:46
too busy, have to want to be a
1:16:48
computer programmer. And eighteen eighty is brilliant because
1:16:50
you're going to be on the cutting edge
1:16:53
and you're going to have very high paying
1:16:55
jobs. Yeah, the guy that can valid for
1:16:57
to zoom you. Think about that, you're going
1:16:59
on all the nineties, man if you. oh
1:17:02
yeah, he's only thirteen. Think. About it
1:17:04
said his oratory. the time he comes by
1:17:06
the time he's twenty it'll be all night
1:17:08
and eighty seven like it's perfect fool that
1:17:10
he saw about to blow off right before
1:17:12
his i really really smart thing he wants
1:17:15
to do he said We talked about him
1:17:17
going to college and getting a masters degree
1:17:19
in that south. Is. Talking about what
1:17:21
he wanted? yeah now I his teacher.
1:17:23
I've missed a shank again here at
1:17:25
the this is miss the same one
1:17:28
that so and a doctor went along
1:17:30
in France Tell ya the scab and.
1:17:32
Gas even said he had been
1:17:34
having problems but had been making
1:17:36
progress. She said he seems a
1:17:38
lot happier and more relax and
1:17:41
really started talking are taking responsibility
1:17:43
for himself and doing things that
1:17:45
he needed to dance. So good
1:17:47
for hims Now February Nineteen eighty.
1:17:50
Okay, Jimmy was going hunting.
1:17:52
Jimmy. Junior Jimmy Jr is going on.
1:17:55
Ah his mother said drink Chris
1:17:57
with you. Okay,
1:18:00
The. And. She said. In
1:18:02
passing and he didn't know if his mom
1:18:05
a serious but I thought that she was.
1:18:07
he said if he can shoot, press and
1:18:09
kill him and leave him there. So
1:18:14
he took that seriously as mom told me to shoot
1:18:16
crescent leave him in the woods him but he couldn't
1:18:18
do it He said he got out there were them
1:18:20
in there honey as I couldn't shoot life I can
1:18:22
shoot him. He was a nice get the I was
1:18:24
like I'm not going to shoot him out the way
1:18:27
that seem crazy see when I do it the I
1:18:29
thought about it is like on as he told me
1:18:31
so I don't know I might worse very if I
1:18:33
don't she won't talk to be for another ten years.
1:18:35
In out as easy as. The south.
1:18:38
Seas He said when they both came home
1:18:40
from hunting that sue and was fucking pissed
1:18:42
that was their deaths is Matt Adams I
1:18:44
use Lucky. What to do you lazy mother
1:18:46
fucker with slice it on the take the
1:18:48
trash out. Guess I'm just fucking. I told
1:18:50
you to clean your room and know what
1:18:52
Know that thinks he didn't do anything It
1:18:54
it must have. This is people are coming
1:18:57
over and a half hours as a whole
1:18:59
place is a mess. You guys are as
1:19:01
Aldo here is. I tell you you'll have
1:19:03
shit marks in the toilet. Did me a
1:19:05
dead me A clean it. So
1:19:08
that's February Nineteen Eighty, and see,
1:19:10
must be pretty serious about this
1:19:12
because in March of Nineteen eighty.
1:19:15
See. Decides one night.
1:19:18
Crysis. Have in a bowl of ice cream. And
1:19:21
she says I'll get it for you. Which
1:19:23
is weird that she would want to do anything
1:19:26
for him but she says I'll get it for
1:19:28
yes she put. Her: okay, she
1:19:30
gives in the ice cream, eats the ice cream
1:19:32
and then he went to sleep for like fourteen
1:19:34
hours. And.
1:19:37
Then woke up and she was angry when he woke
1:19:39
up. With that site in
1:19:41
you'll fall asleep after. I swear easily know
1:19:43
I will. You do if someone puts eight
1:19:45
play moods and it. It's put
1:19:47
place lose a way. Lewd. senate.
1:19:51
Like. Like he's a basis
1:19:53
for a fucking rock band Aid play
1:19:55
Loads. What do you like him? He's
1:19:57
not an Motorhead, Com Saudi Dicaprio, The
1:19:59
Wolf of Wall Street. What are you
1:20:02
eating? Eight Way Lose. Wow. Yeah.
1:20:04
So that is what she does and
1:20:06
she hoped that would kill him. Eight
1:20:08
players. Which. Will remove the going
1:20:11
to do their with they've I'm sure they
1:20:13
would have looked gonna talk screen and said
1:20:15
oh yes kid doesn't weigh lose we're your
1:20:17
said dial great nice This the we found
1:20:19
out your kid is a super cool brought
1:20:21
a slug and he's awesome man he's did.
1:20:23
I chose this to read the list of
1:20:26
to Rad to Live through Cool to Die.
1:20:29
So yeah that's it was as a did as it
1:20:31
were looking for a bass player if he makes it
1:20:33
tells me that all through man sounds like he's probably
1:20:35
good. So he
1:20:37
wakes up she's pissed off and as
1:20:40
rumors that during this time she tried
1:20:42
again despite his his or her with
1:20:44
hills but that didn't work either. The
1:20:46
kids got a strong constitution apart in
1:20:48
the will work out. But. His
1:20:50
own who was kid in school now. Values
1:20:53
is awesome. You've got a great club tolerance
1:20:55
of the best in junior high, best quail
1:20:57
intolerance of the a rather Check it. And
1:20:59
this guy. Yeah yeah, yeahs all metal man.
1:21:01
he's on like a metal yes And eighteen
1:21:04
eighty. Could have joined Metallica for Christ sakes.
1:21:07
Imperfect. So I April seventeenth,
1:21:09
Eighteen eighty comes around and
1:21:11
Add and Sue Ann were
1:21:13
on a dinner date. With
1:21:17
sounds nice but we'll find out it's not
1:21:19
very romantic and all here on. Add
1:21:21
had gone straight from work or from
1:21:23
work to a union meeting in Kansas
1:21:25
City for the Global dog food makers
1:21:28
for thirteen sufficient interests of his social
1:21:30
I did you do now they have
1:21:32
a union they're obsessed with heat. Local
1:21:34
Civil Farmers of America Yeah, that was
1:21:37
as a local. sips of the process
1:21:39
as a. Lot
1:21:41
of local tribal curators of America.
1:21:44
You gotta have alliteration. So.
1:21:47
He called home to see what was
1:21:49
cooking for dinner. Yeah before he left.
1:21:52
Imagine that is like when he called. see what
1:21:54
we're having for dinner him away out. So.
1:21:56
He said normally we don't go out to eat,
1:21:58
but it was already seven. The Am. So.
1:22:01
So n said what are we just stop
1:22:03
and of a hamburger like all will go
1:22:05
out and grabs a burger here so they
1:22:07
go out for a romantic dinner at the
1:22:09
Burger King in Overland Park or right. A
1:22:12
sit down romantic. A.
1:22:15
Sit down date night, Over
1:22:17
a double cheeseburger? Yeah plus over
1:22:19
of opportunities. Over a proper Jr
1:22:21
is watch nurse figure get out
1:22:23
of a t. V
1:22:26
Return home at eight thirty pm Saturday.
1:22:28
Really milk the whole experience and when
1:22:31
they get home, Press has gone. His
1:22:35
homework is undone not done yet sitting in
1:22:37
his bedroom So that's odd for Chris because
1:22:39
his homework is a one priority at this
1:22:41
year for him has been getting maze and
1:22:44
be So it's very odd that his homework
1:22:46
is under isn't done so they look all
1:22:48
around. You can find him anywhere. Where
1:22:51
the fuck is Chris is only thirteen? Where
1:22:53
to go In? Er in een Southern? They're
1:22:55
asking where to go now. Suzanne his home.
1:22:57
The daughter she's fifteen at the time and
1:22:59
see said that he was home doing his
1:23:01
homework. That seat last time she saw me
1:23:03
is doing his homework. She went to take
1:23:05
a shower. But. When he came when
1:23:07
she gonna have a the shower was you can
1:23:09
find them either he wasn't his room anymore which
1:23:11
he walked by their in and and seems as
1:23:14
though areas see this she didn't seem as romans
1:23:16
us about and I was somewhere who cares. Didn't
1:23:18
see him lease so edwin into the basement looking
1:23:20
for a son. there may be isn't the base
1:23:22
and he looks around. he doesn't find a son
1:23:24
but what he does notice is on his gun
1:23:26
rack one of a shotguns is missing. Size.
1:23:29
Of Chris is less with a shotgun to
1:23:32
twelve gauge that Press uses that rise of
1:23:34
yeah yeah that's has that gun is missing.
1:23:37
Is like okay, that's weird. Interesting
1:23:39
He said I didn't suspect anything
1:23:41
until ten pm that night and
1:23:44
then it just didn't set right.
1:23:46
So. By ten thirty, he called the
1:23:48
police. And said my son
1:23:50
got these, got a gun and I don't
1:23:52
know what's going on here. sorry got worry
1:23:54
about him and his thirteen These thirteen yeah
1:23:57
we need to get him back mouth so
1:23:59
the authorities launch. A P B and go looking
1:24:01
for him because he the trials Are you making What
1:24:03
sites that don't say call back in two days You
1:24:05
know this offseason. They look for
1:24:07
him, let us know is if he
1:24:09
turns off assists yes Never will take
1:24:11
him off the board if he comes
1:24:13
up zealous. So they look for him
1:24:15
and I'm thinking of item no one
1:24:17
can find him. And. For several
1:24:19
days no one can find them. And
1:24:22
as is, just. Beside
1:24:24
himself at is going everywhere looking for him.
1:24:27
called call the cops every half hour and
1:24:29
a room where are you guys were welcoming
1:24:31
to be over here. I'm going here trying
1:24:33
to coordinate efforts with them and everything like
1:24:35
that. The. Think and
1:24:37
why would he run away? In. Out
1:24:39
that's would he run away. So they talk
1:24:41
to his friends. They talked to crysis friends
1:24:43
because normally kids that age will confide in
1:24:45
somebody. Sometimes in and out their friends no
1:24:47
more than the parents do. All that, yeah
1:24:49
ever. And especially if they're going to run
1:24:51
away. It's almost like gay. unless it's from
1:24:53
a very abusive situation. It's almost like a
1:24:56
power moves. We'll tell your friends you can
1:24:58
do that thing, you know what I mean.
1:25:00
Otherwise it's and a pointless unless there's a
1:25:02
lot of abuse in a running away from
1:25:04
that. But that's really what's going on here.
1:25:06
So what? his friends named Bob Sad When
1:25:08
some of us are mad at our parents
1:25:10
for not letting us do something, we'd sometimes
1:25:12
talk about running away. And he
1:25:14
said, but Chris would never even talk
1:25:16
about running away. Thirteen year old named
1:25:19
Bob. Bob. The guy hey
1:25:21
don't buy has a wife and kids. Bob
1:25:23
there's. When. I
1:25:25
was like twenty I had a job and
1:25:27
there's this guy who was nineteen years old
1:25:29
and his name was bob and he was
1:25:31
like his hair had like a yeah like
1:25:33
a very like forty like in their forties
1:25:35
dad haircuts and he wore like these button
1:25:38
down plaid shirts and khakis to work and
1:25:40
every time I got how the wife and
1:25:42
kids bob i knew he lived with his
1:25:44
mother and even just is gonna like community
1:25:46
college in every time. He
1:25:48
got Bobby were loafers and your name is
1:25:50
Bob I'm super night Dean what the fuck
1:25:52
are you build This is his body at
1:25:55
this point. Man out of the Bob so
1:25:57
fucking was go by Robert Harris I didn't
1:25:59
hear ya. They are Robbie utterly. You
1:26:01
don't get Bob until you're thirty. Forty Thirty
1:26:03
five is by. You have to have three
1:26:05
kids and it out. And a reason
1:26:07
to be. Mad Three kids and you're applying for
1:26:10
a management position memorial I call me Bob when
1:26:12
you know what Entering into negative twice before of
1:26:14
yeah. So he
1:26:16
said that he of five days before
1:26:18
he went missing. Chris went to Bob's
1:26:20
fifteenth birthday party and Bob said he
1:26:22
looked like he was having a real
1:26:25
good times and seemed and real high
1:26:27
spirits. He's just not the type to
1:26:29
run away and in addition to that
1:26:31
Press has a motorcycle and a bicycle
1:26:33
that are both still in the garage.
1:26:36
Chris. Has okay like a dirt bike is
1:26:38
like a dirt bike self. As a kid
1:26:40
who's thirty, amazon and I my transportation is
1:26:42
going with your take him at least your
1:26:44
bike with his. You absolutely need to be
1:26:46
able to get around here. Need wheels? See
1:26:48
how the gas is gonna run out of
1:26:50
that motorcycle eventually them way Leo is a
1:26:52
bike you can. it's get it adds I
1:26:54
going to rain down as I guns forever.
1:26:57
Him go forever and none of his clothes
1:26:59
are missing even as the other thing. It's
1:27:01
very strange, none of us closer missing the
1:27:03
left with the shirt on his back and
1:27:05
a shutdown, a shotgun. And know form
1:27:07
of transportation and is undone homework
1:27:09
and it's just very very strange
1:27:11
south. Of the
1:27:13
next day here I'm. Basically.
1:27:16
People are a threat. Cops are asking lot
1:27:18
of questions of of the how's the family
1:27:20
was to see if he would run away
1:27:22
base and ray how's his family life and
1:27:25
they said they got a real portrait of
1:27:27
swam as nervous and patient, jumpy and always
1:27:29
on ads. Like. A poodle basically
1:27:31
this always go and his poodle i'm
1:27:33
in the x com and they said
1:27:36
from that's how everyone describes her but
1:27:38
then from April eighteenth the day after
1:27:40
he went missing on everybody said that
1:27:42
she seemed at peace and relaxed and
1:27:45
happy. New. Which. Is. Like.
1:27:47
Cinderella or step mom was decent compared to
1:27:49
the smoking lady grown out a man sees
1:27:51
at least Cinderellas that mom didn't put quotes
1:27:54
and are ice cream. I don't base here
1:27:56
summit of scrubs yet but now I see
1:27:58
what of and terrible scrubbing on. Well
1:28:00
that's why the zebra I gave her like
1:28:02
uppers and or if I am ravens is
1:28:04
a nice the keep go and get yeah
1:28:06
now I know it's do I am but
1:28:08
those Greg routers are going to leave itself.
1:28:10
Let's go let's go Sandy move a cell
1:28:12
explain why she thought birds were dressing I
1:28:14
guess cause it's all of this is just
1:28:16
a Clay Lewis who is all one big
1:28:18
clay loot, hallucination pillows and as I wouldn't
1:28:20
hold my hands sisters and ways to like
1:28:22
I rode in a road to the ball
1:28:24
in a pumpkin Man is fucking awesome man
1:28:27
and then like the most rich handsome guy
1:28:29
like the like danced. All night and any
1:28:31
like gave me a shoe was amazing. That
1:28:33
was outlet and I thought nothing turned back
1:28:35
into mice and pumpkin seeds. Sobered up at
1:28:37
midnight? Yeah was like wow, what the fuck
1:28:40
man. Sees. Said
1:28:42
rabies ancestry getting bitten by rats
1:28:44
and mice all night as ah
1:28:47
jesus what happened as is as
1:28:49
grace ass sore that I do
1:28:51
sutton last night. So.
1:28:54
The next night a friend named
1:28:56
Margie Hunt is a friend of
1:28:58
Zoo and said that see. And
1:29:01
this and swam. Went.
1:29:04
Out drinking on April eighteenth. The.
1:29:06
Day after. Yeah. The
1:29:08
kid at his outlook and for a son. The.
1:29:10
City is still haven't really gone to a
1:29:13
bar with her friends who have an arts
1:29:15
to the the night out over here like
1:29:17
what the fuck and does She said that
1:29:19
it felt that night like that so and
1:29:22
was out celebrating something like she was like.
1:29:25
In. I just graduated college or
1:29:27
some shit, Zuzana haven't a good
1:29:29
old times. We'll have some slippery
1:29:31
nipples blue now. They. End
1:29:33
up a man ends up calling the police
1:29:36
department saying that he found a wallet. Containing
1:29:38
he saw that there was a missing
1:29:40
Kevin. I found a wallet with a
1:29:43
library card with that kid's name and
1:29:45
ah jesus yeah so has a previous
1:29:47
far end of all time. That's where
1:29:49
was just lying in the end. Up
1:29:51
in a shopping mall parking lot. On
1:29:53
the strip mall parking lot just. Sitting.
1:29:56
There, so. They. Have a
1:29:58
wallet and to the strip mall parking. Lot
1:30:00
know Berlin Park so there but they
1:30:02
have no crests. they don't know what
1:30:04
to do so they end up after
1:30:06
that. they go okay if is while
1:30:08
it's gone and all this now they
1:30:10
really search form like they noticed that
1:30:12
he ran away. Now they're thinking there's
1:30:14
trouble. So they launch a huge air
1:30:17
and ground search and averages the on
1:30:19
planes helicopters you name and all the
1:30:21
sniper shit. They do find a pair
1:30:23
of tattered blue jeans and a plaid
1:30:25
flannel shirt. In. A wooded
1:30:27
area between now and interstate.
1:30:29
For thirty five, the clothes
1:30:31
are crysis. I. Bought
1:30:33
his parents say Nord, they're not a
1:30:35
part of his wardrobe he doesn't absolve.
1:30:37
Was. So. That's interesting they are.
1:30:40
Some other kid apparently has clothes ripped off
1:30:42
his body and thrown out. Here is thirteen.
1:30:44
It's not like an adult that have happened
1:30:46
so you know the difference between an adult
1:30:48
and and and a child's close in a
1:30:51
means for saw him. If he was
1:30:53
sixteen it's never but thirteen yr a boy
1:30:55
in I knew in i wish my time
1:30:57
were made was always I'm a kid. Leaves
1:30:59
are close out in the woods as if
1:31:01
they shut them while camp here in. ah
1:31:03
yes ours is their shit upon them Be
1:31:05
an assistant. Does it look like they seats
1:31:07
did a bunch four melt silly out of
1:31:09
a camera as physicists at these to these
1:31:12
paths are like torn up there with you
1:31:14
know her strains south. There. When
1:31:16
they hear the clothes they they get oh maybe
1:31:18
we found press even some bad happened something happened
1:31:20
but then they say another not a part of
1:31:22
his wardrobe so we never find out if they
1:31:24
were they weren't South Ad says he has no
1:31:27
idea what happened to his son. he has frantic
1:31:29
he's on the phone with the cops several times
1:31:31
a day. still. Where. Are you
1:31:33
were just lucky? Wants to know everything he
1:31:35
said. He was positive. He tells the newspaper
1:31:37
he is one hundred percent sure his son
1:31:39
did not run away. Did
1:31:41
he said number one? Press had a phobia
1:31:43
about being out at night alone. That's.
1:31:46
One, so that didn't happen. He said he
1:31:48
did not like darkness by himself. as long
1:31:50
as I was with them. It didn't bother
1:31:52
him, but not by himself. He's too humid,
1:31:54
yeah, but in my forties that's fucked up.
1:31:56
Been out just. Och and anywhere whether
1:31:58
the end of the and a bucket. Metropolis sleep
1:32:00
when it's dark out. I hate it
1:32:03
alone. Really? Oh My.
1:32:05
God. I owe a city street walk alone.
1:32:07
know I can't wait. Really? were to pick
1:32:09
me up? Telling a shit? I'm saying I
1:32:11
enjoy that for some. Know why it
1:32:13
as have no I sit well I
1:32:15
don't know I'm frightened Hossa thought I
1:32:17
was thinking about it like that houses
1:32:19
as kind of i'm just like I'm
1:32:21
just a little die and I things
1:32:23
I mean I even when I walked
1:32:25
down the street like with a fuckin
1:32:27
stare and feel like I'm talking on
1:32:30
fuck with a both. I'm.
1:32:32
Still fucked with. A C area they
1:32:34
are going on the street in Sacramento. Walk
1:32:36
in with a of smoking a black a
1:32:38
mile and a guy slot and shadowed me
1:32:40
as I was walking towards him. I'm trying
1:32:43
to walk around him and every step I
1:32:45
take eats blocks me up and then as
1:32:47
they hit the cigar my gives us have
1:32:49
a man or guy for hims ominous share
1:32:51
a cigar with you this is weird that's
1:32:53
because he was in your as bathroom that
1:32:55
that's of right Yes yes yes it is
1:32:58
a lot of poop on the sidewalk Them
1:33:00
yeah figures. Bathroom: Six hours of enough as
1:33:02
it is living or was. Yeah, we're
1:33:04
all of a do business. Another
1:33:06
gulag that. So
1:33:08
anyway he doesn't like be him since it's
1:33:11
like a great guy. He doesn't like being
1:33:13
out there by himself. I guess in the
1:33:15
rural area or anything he said. I knew
1:33:17
he hadn't run away. Also, one thing I
1:33:19
taught him all his life was that he
1:33:21
couldn't run from his problems. If he had
1:33:23
done something wrong, he was to face it.
1:33:26
And then he looked down he said a
1:33:28
now i wish to God I had told
1:33:30
them to run the something obviously app south.
1:33:33
He's. Very the by the way, the
1:33:35
newspaper it says. He paused looking suddenly
1:33:37
old As looking suddenly as old as
1:33:40
the light. Looking suddenly old as the
1:33:42
like played with his whiskey. So he's
1:33:44
drinking whiskey. Talk about us and idols.
1:33:49
He's walk him sitting there drinking whiskey
1:33:51
now was to God I told Neuron
1:33:53
and and he finished his ranks. Those
1:33:55
of as Lock wrote that do I
1:33:57
have somebody wants to be an author
1:33:59
that were yet. They're working Other first
1:34:01
novel this guy it on me or somebody
1:34:03
just painted that portrait level and have looking
1:34:05
old as the not as the late light
1:34:07
played with his whiskey. Is
1:34:10
three fingers a whisking? Wow that
1:34:12
is hilarious. So I'm while this
1:34:14
is going on. this is he's
1:34:16
been out with the first week
1:34:18
we can find Chris so when
1:34:20
starts doing some weird shit. Like.
1:34:23
giving away Chris clothes and bedroom
1:34:25
furniture. Says that's giving sit
1:34:27
a way of has that's none of whom
1:34:29
he's been on my six days suicidal. hopefully
1:34:31
coming back and not loyal tied to cleared
1:34:34
out as the fuck up the gaff Vic
1:34:36
ads out with the cops searching and see
1:34:38
was at home talking about redecorating Chris his
1:34:40
bedroom and turning it into an office to
1:34:42
see selling of friends. I gotta get rid
1:34:44
of a shit like a turn into an
1:34:47
office or like are you looking for hims
1:34:49
is is a cab of get him out
1:34:51
will sort of and went off against sleep
1:34:53
on the couch. He's blown it. Wow.
1:34:56
That is fucking insane. So that's really
1:34:58
weird and see even told. On
1:35:00
the eighties when she went out drinking. Part
1:35:02
of what she was telling her friend about
1:35:04
was her plans to redecorate the bedroom. Message:
1:35:08
he was you that was even gone twenty four
1:35:10
hours Yet. So. A.
1:35:13
Tip comes in. Here. Ah
1:35:15
from a young girl. Name.
1:35:17
Is not from Sudan's drinking partner for know
1:35:19
thou that on her hips and I see
1:35:21
should have been like i big use the
1:35:24
restroom Zero evidence cause I went on my
1:35:26
the bathroom. Are you really want to come
1:35:28
here That as much as I hang of
1:35:30
it as a fucking crazy like of flour
1:35:32
a wire right now this is yeah. believe
1:35:34
this is wild south. They. Get a call
1:35:36
from a fifteen year old girl. Who
1:35:38
claimed that she was a
1:35:41
party. With. A bunch of
1:35:43
kids from school rise and heard
1:35:45
a guy named Paul Sorrentino talking
1:35:47
about getting rid of a teenage
1:35:50
boy. At
1:35:52
a party. In. Mali. Hey Pauly Sardina
1:35:54
What he the? Why is it always?
1:35:56
You boys aren't enough for my Molly
1:35:58
one. Jesus Christ Paul, you're making. The
1:36:00
hard for me when I say don't
1:36:02
stereotype that he doesn't like this sub
1:36:04
ball a A the police reportedly said
1:36:07
the tipster. At that point they
1:36:09
asked a girl the come into the police
1:36:11
station see if she does. They make her
1:36:13
call Paul Sorrentino to get him to talk
1:36:15
about Cresswell. they record it. Okay,
1:36:18
during the conversation. He
1:36:20
admitted that he got rid of
1:36:22
quote, got rid of Chris. His.
1:36:25
Why did you do it? well?
1:36:27
as a favor for my friend,
1:36:29
Jimmy Crumb Junior? Oh, Okay
1:36:32
that's is getting weird now
1:36:34
so the cops are. They.
1:36:37
Still, don't talk to the boys right away because
1:36:39
they want to try to see if they have
1:36:41
anything on them, but they can pin them with
1:36:43
their south That on May third, nineteen eighty. There
1:36:47
are a couple of boys looking
1:36:49
for worms in the Edgerton area.
1:36:51
Okay, now or never done. Here
1:36:53
are witches in the area of
1:36:55
Bull Creek? Okay. And.
1:36:57
They're looking for worms for a fishing trip the
1:36:59
next day. Which is where the
1:37:02
last week we have a story about the
1:37:04
little girl with blood all over coming out
1:37:06
and talk of the boy looking for worms
1:37:08
south. It's dangerous for a little boy to
1:37:10
look for worms. guys don't know as salsa
1:37:13
was as a father. it's a pic. Worms
1:37:15
is so hard to do it at it
1:37:17
as it the and they are a dollar
1:37:19
ninety nine. just feel by the fucking worms
1:37:22
everywhere. It a shot anywhere with in three
1:37:24
miles of a river, a creek, a lake,
1:37:26
something every gas station has. A little friends
1:37:28
with fucking night crawlers and I'm like. Tonight
1:37:31
don't see this. There's a Sochi consists of fitness
1:37:33
out in a little foam with a wanted does
1:37:35
by the bait man his own always. it's like
1:37:37
at my house it would be if you go
1:37:39
like take a scoop of dirt adam I will
1:37:42
be like twelve worms and like really off all
1:37:44
my god it's are so many fucking worms back
1:37:46
there it's and say jesus it's insane yeah it's
1:37:48
wild south but to look for the my i
1:37:51
guess to cheaper that some you could tell you
1:37:53
could see go to go dig for worms still
1:37:55
tell them where l occupy sometimes. Well.
1:37:58
They're digging and while the. Digging
1:38:00
they come across something are how deeper
1:38:02
they dig and sixteen to eighteen inches
1:38:05
their don't almost two feet deep for
1:38:07
our a foot and a half for
1:38:09
weren't home I got a because they're
1:38:11
gonna be downwards of soils moist. The
1:38:14
owners out by the worms by the
1:38:16
fucking were observed someone's parents are B
1:38:18
and C pichet well in here They
1:38:21
discover. A body
1:38:23
in a sixteen to
1:38:25
eighteen inch deep grave.
1:38:27
Are. Very shallow grave.
1:38:30
Fear. And the
1:38:32
police they go home and they tell
1:38:34
their parents and they call the cops
1:38:36
and the police com and they find
1:38:38
of as a small. Deacon.
1:38:41
Very decomposed as you might imagine because
1:38:43
it's been in the ground for, you
1:38:45
know. almost said the three weeks now.
1:38:48
And. It's a
1:38:50
small boy and their i'm
1:38:52
They're worried that it's press.
1:38:55
This child has. Three
1:38:57
shock moons. Three. One.
1:39:00
In the back of the head. For
1:39:04
one. In the chest and arm
1:39:06
area and one in the throat. Two
1:39:10
different types of shock guns used. is
1:39:12
that right Swanee gauge and a twelve
1:39:14
gauge they've been. They figure out through
1:39:17
that you know the holes in the
1:39:19
size of the wounds here south. This
1:39:21
is horrific. I mean this is this game has been.
1:39:24
Shot. To shit and just had basically
1:39:26
just hours thin layer of dirt put
1:39:28
over him. Yeah, From. Seattle Hi
1:39:30
to that's fucked up. It's fucking
1:39:33
crazy. And the other part that's crazy
1:39:35
as they're lucky these kids were doing
1:39:37
worms out here because there were about
1:39:39
to. They wouldn't have found him to
1:39:41
the spot ever, ever pretty soon, because
1:39:44
hadn't gone undiscovered for the next year.
1:39:46
It would have never been recovered. The
1:39:49
site is in a sparsely populated area
1:39:51
that they were just about to cover
1:39:53
with millions of gallons of water to
1:39:55
form the new Hildale Hillsdale Reservoir. The
1:39:58
real and I don't like the. Project
1:40:00
was going to be done in the next year
1:40:02
so they were just about to completely flood the
1:40:04
smoking area you and never found then will I
1:40:06
ever. Because he was already decomposed, he probably wouldn't
1:40:09
have floated and down a bit. Now it is
1:40:11
and is. d Bunnies Hamilton, Billy Davies about to
1:40:13
have a late on top of them. Get.
1:40:15
To that would have been that no one ever fucking
1:40:18
found him except for a couple kids eating worms. He.
1:40:20
Asked what seat in the freezer. Yet.
1:40:23
So. The. There's of
1:40:25
now there's rumors spreading all over Shiny Mission.
1:40:27
I are South High School. were both Paul
1:40:29
Santino and Jimmy Com Junior Odd. we're going
1:40:31
the school. Jimmy Graham is a going anymore
1:40:33
and Paul as I pause about to drop
1:40:36
out by the way his in a drop
1:40:38
out here in late April. he does. So
1:40:40
this is when the got that girl comes
1:40:42
with information. It's a police now. Since they
1:40:44
found the body is the first they know
1:40:46
who's just some kid talking shit that can
1:40:48
bring him in and really put the screws
1:40:50
to him because who knows now they have
1:40:52
a dead child. Now it's time to put
1:40:54
the screws. To these kids. So they bring in
1:40:56
Paul and Jimmy who are both sixteen at the
1:40:58
time. So.
1:41:02
They sit jimmy down
1:41:05
and they play. This.
1:41:07
What the friend sad and
1:41:09
what part are saying ah
1:41:11
yeah my life he up
1:41:13
and see he said our
1:41:15
identity. Jimmy. Gets it right up.
1:41:18
Yes, Civic has a right. I sixteen and
1:41:20
he's done. Yup, He he
1:41:22
said that my mom came over
1:41:24
to my apartment that day and
1:41:27
damn. You. Know as said
1:41:29
some things she had been making
1:41:31
derogatory remarks about my sister, suzanne
1:41:33
and as other shit and damn
1:41:35
he said that. His
1:41:38
mom asked him to do it. As Mom said,
1:41:40
leah, do this. We gotta get rid of this.
1:41:42
Get his make and he's he's Mom also
1:41:44
told him that's odds of that. Press was the
1:41:46
one who turned him in for the credit card.
1:41:49
Fraud. He was committing see lottery Lothian first
1:41:51
didn't do that at all. That's not what
1:41:53
happened, but she told him that to piss
1:41:55
him off. So he got right. Yeah, fuck
1:41:58
that kids. So wow, he met up. It
1:42:00
came over. And met and
1:42:02
J. I met Jimmy in the apartment
1:42:04
complex parking lots and told him that
1:42:06
something had to be done about Chris
1:42:08
Was as quote something had to be
1:42:10
done. He said that she said she
1:42:12
would buy him a new car. I'll
1:42:15
buy you a sports cars You do this. Is.
1:42:18
What she told. Him. She.
1:42:20
He said well I I. I. You
1:42:22
know, I don't know if I can do this by myself. I
1:42:24
don't know what to do here. So.
1:42:26
She said both hoodie and I'll get somebody
1:42:29
else than tell. oh I know a real
1:42:31
dumb loud mouth kid know a guy. Yeah
1:42:33
perfect. I know some fucking dumb get a
1:42:35
little day what? yeah yeah so I know.
1:42:38
gathered it's worth more than most a tally.
1:42:40
Consider how the hell he really likes to
1:42:42
and likes to spread as as the views
1:42:44
of violence rather keep it under his hat
1:42:46
air south they end up by a he
1:42:49
ends up going to Paul Sorrentino. And.
1:42:52
See said as soon as Jimmy
1:42:54
what is paul want to participate
1:42:56
in and the answer was three
1:42:58
hundred dollars so he could repair
1:43:00
his motorcycle. Via.
1:43:03
Which is an amazing deal right there
1:43:05
is a success. If he was sixteen
1:43:07
I'd say he's definitely a cop. as
1:43:09
I would say that is national valid
1:43:11
point. Five percent off with that as
1:43:13
a way to little to kill it's
1:43:15
I will kill It's filed for three
1:43:17
hundred dollars as a bonkers point about
1:43:19
dangerous whole that's a fucking poof man
1:43:22
that is crazy at so this is
1:43:24
how much how much how many parts
1:43:26
of the need for a motorcyclist I
1:43:28
have Three hundred dollars yes Seder and
1:43:30
I'll kill your mother. we're think he
1:43:32
would. Like I the price a little
1:43:34
back and estimate from a shop like
1:43:36
that. I knew my my and visited.
1:43:39
I think you know he just needs
1:43:41
spark plugs these like. And nine fifty?
1:43:43
maybe maybe a grand? I'm not sure
1:43:45
I'd the guy you know up the
1:43:47
price a little bit. Pads or estimate
1:43:49
Deuce Baghdad don't ride this fight anymore.
1:43:52
As he said three hundred dollars and
1:43:54
affects my shadow of later on the
1:43:56
the figure fluctuates to maybe as much
1:43:58
as Three Fifty was. That's a success
1:44:00
and ever more. that's the highest figure
1:44:02
gave it is three hundred Fifty dollars
1:44:04
is also three twenty thrown around a
1:44:06
little bit. Which
1:44:09
is the least we've ever heard of
1:44:11
of battery in a throttled abs though
1:44:13
should have we ever heard of? Anybody
1:44:15
know. Do. Anything from usually when it's
1:44:17
five grand we go to see that's a
1:44:19
classic yeah system. As a I think we've
1:44:21
had him for. Five. Hundred dollars down
1:44:23
here I mainly as in another know five
1:44:26
ran once the insurance comprise on him at
1:44:28
this is just three hundred and three and
1:44:30
are done deal that's why and paid for
1:44:32
us My see. Wow. Subsuming,
1:44:35
Junior says that he and Paul went
1:44:37
to the house to the Hobson House
1:44:39
that night and convinced pressed to come
1:44:41
for a ride with them. While.
1:44:44
Jimmy would went in the basement and
1:44:46
grabbed the shotgun. So while
1:44:48
they were doing stuff Paul Vostok in
1:44:51
the press to me went down grab
1:44:53
the shotgun so they took him. It
1:44:55
gets worse Air they take him out
1:44:57
here where they sound young Jimmy. They
1:45:00
get him out of the car both
1:45:02
holding shotguns on him. And
1:45:04
then they listen to this. This is this
1:45:06
is like. So. Fucking cruel.
1:45:08
They force him to dig his
1:45:10
own grave. Ah, come on. They.
1:45:13
Force him to dig his own grave. and then
1:45:15
he. They made him sit down and it. and
1:45:17
then they shut the fuck out of them. So
1:45:21
they wouldn't have to move him. Or
1:45:24
thirteen man. Would it would is
1:45:26
a stick to me a ruse like what the fuck is
1:45:28
happening Is this. This. Is like what
1:45:30
you know they did the like Vietnamese prisoners
1:45:32
back then like they would. Now though that
1:45:34
Northern army was a suit. I'm an avid
1:45:36
fallen Fucking All this is insane. What?
1:45:39
Is going on here? Man, That's. Holy.
1:45:42
Shit, That's cruel. For. Super
1:45:44
fucked up for two teenagers to think
1:45:46
about. Those are and your step brother.
1:45:49
Your step brothers it's a new know him. You
1:45:51
know he's a nice kid near. you're going to make
1:45:53
him take his own fucking grave. And than said
1:45:55
in it's and the kids, he might not have known
1:45:58
that these kids are serious He my thoughts. Fuckin
1:46:00
with a new you get hayes and raised by
1:46:02
a sick I have. your allergies were obtained and
1:46:04
your brother them of this might be a way
1:46:06
to Falklands ha ha ha ha. They're gonna laugh
1:46:09
Adams and then fuck him. Go come on let's
1:46:11
go get buried glances as some rural Kansas jokes.
1:46:13
yeah that is not a funny joke and on
1:46:15
gas is someone. If I had an older brother
1:46:17
and they did that to me and I went
1:46:19
home until my father he would murder that. He
1:46:22
would murder my older brother. Good know there's a
1:46:24
wave already dug. It is axiomatic. You know that
1:46:26
house where you go we're going to that freshly
1:46:28
grub.grave. And gravy
1:46:30
major brother dig that's over ago and hop
1:46:32
on the back of a Harley heard of my
1:46:34
dad was go ago and and on could
1:46:36
said i'm so you can either jump off when
1:46:39
I'm gone sixty or had narrows your odds
1:46:41
and. So yeah
1:46:43
and they said why did you set wide
1:46:45
your mother one her stepson dead so bad
1:46:47
she set in. the kids said quote she
1:46:50
just didn't like him. Gym.
1:46:52
See tested like events It's Emmys. As
1:46:54
soon as she said he caused unrest
1:46:56
in the family. Lore?
1:46:59
Wow. He said that on the day of
1:47:01
the killing, he decided not to go through
1:47:03
with that. He. Didn't want to do it
1:47:05
here. They talked about a pre so how do I
1:47:07
do this? You know like this. The last time she
1:47:09
tried to make me do what I want to do
1:47:11
it she said but his mother forced them see he
1:47:13
said quotes. She was very upset. And when
1:47:15
she found out that he had decided not to
1:47:18
kill Chris quote she wanted to know what
1:47:20
the hell's going on. She said it was too
1:47:22
late Now to back out. Yeah, why? Of
1:47:25
this is not known as the best bargain
1:47:27
I've ever gotten in my life has has
1:47:29
it costs me nothing as useless as barton
1:47:31
up for me. Fuck. So so
1:47:33
yeah, she wanted him dead. that was that.
1:47:35
Sees Jimmy Jr told the cops as his
1:47:37
mother told him on several occasions that something
1:47:39
had to be done and have. Forced.
1:47:42
Them into helping. Ah must suck and
1:47:44
problem he said. Told them about the
1:47:46
clay Loot ice cream which is not
1:47:48
my favorite flavor of Ben and Jerry's
1:47:50
honest now it's Savannah. I
1:47:52
like that American dream that one's pretty guy the
1:47:55
and I like a pistachio as I met over
1:47:57
soon as they were a this this this have
1:47:59
that my favor there's any. it's a bit. Set.
1:48:02
The ears food. too much stuff going on. many
1:48:04
many things here. too busy. yeah can't put my
1:48:06
my mouth capital my finger on what's going on
1:48:09
and they're the ones that are to rather they
1:48:11
do. Now that's a that's a good one the
1:48:13
I don't know about the play with coffee doubt
1:48:15
that now and a recipe. So.
1:48:18
He said after that the eight the ice
1:48:20
cream A Chris started getting real groggy, stumbling
1:48:22
around the house and then he went to
1:48:24
bed and slept for a long time and
1:48:27
she was disappointed when he woke up. So.
1:48:31
Then after that failed to kill him then she
1:48:33
suggested what are you? Do It Jimmy Junior. He.
1:48:37
Said squelch. She told me to make it
1:48:39
look like a suicide or an accident. Possibly
1:48:41
a drug overdose? He. Said the
1:48:43
first time he asked me to find someone to
1:48:45
kill him but later she decided that maybe I
1:48:47
could do it. Do
1:48:49
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Yeah, he said that she wanted someone that those
1:50:21
maybe you could do it, then she said, "Well,
1:50:23
maybe you could find someone to help" And
1:50:26
dumb guy. He said that he's taught the
1:50:28
Paul because quote. He seemed like the kind
1:50:30
of guy who would do it. Diverts
1:50:34
is hilarious. Really, it gets even better with
1:50:36
that. Yeah, why most bad ass for and
1:50:38
really he's the toughest guy in the elephant
1:50:41
in the eleven raids about him out of
1:50:43
a you themselves at do a daughter's While
1:50:45
and that even I hear it and sell
1:50:47
what it's all. V doesn't drive well they
1:50:49
did. It has three dots on his hands
1:50:51
and he wrote that my mattress when he
1:50:53
says the that Later on we'll find out
1:50:55
why. Sue Ann thought it was a good
1:50:58
idea to use fall. It's pretty funny but
1:51:00
she said that she thought his dad might
1:51:02
be a this is great Paul would be
1:51:04
a good choice because to add thought quite
1:51:06
his dad might quote his dad might be
1:51:08
connected with an organized crime group. Maybe because
1:51:10
his name Sorrentino literally of they said why
1:51:13
does he think that he said because of
1:51:15
his name. Was.
1:51:17
Again, when know any other and that and
1:51:19
that self made sense it without yeah And
1:51:21
he's also in Kansas. So unless he's in
1:51:23
the witness protection program or the next door
1:51:26
to Henry Hill Eaton's Egg Noodles and catch
1:51:28
up like a snuff Zig is probably last
1:51:30
of us as a sprawling out of the
1:51:32
mob. So she said that. he said he
1:51:34
tried to put her off and then finally.
1:51:36
He. Told they are, he told her that Sorrentino
1:51:39
would do it and then it will cost
1:51:41
three hundred fifty dollars to fix his motorcycle
1:51:43
and she said that sounds reasonable. It's
1:51:48
not an estimate for fuck in new window
1:51:50
allies. if not for new, do that. what
1:51:52
are you talking about? Had rounds reasonable, fifth
1:51:54
hundred, modern to cut the were on. Twice.
1:51:57
A month field sounds reasonable. Yeah, just another
1:51:59
common with. Yeah, the southern. Heavenly.
1:52:01
Maybe just like a toaster like of
1:52:03
the bank back then. So he and
1:52:05
his friend Paul pick press up and
1:52:07
home drove him out there and did
1:52:09
this and then they covered his body
1:52:11
with dirt. And his mother told
1:52:14
him later that had told. I told Jimmy
1:52:16
Junior later that she was the one who
1:52:18
threw his wallet away in the shopping center
1:52:20
rail. She went and tossed a good i
1:52:22
guess they brought it back door. So here's
1:52:24
his wallet on the task at our buckle
1:52:26
up as so. He also said that his
1:52:28
mother promise to buy him a car and
1:52:30
I'm in a that's how it is south
1:52:33
or cops are like. Let's. Bring everybody
1:52:35
and they find the twenty gauge. They
1:52:37
never find a twelve gauge. By the
1:52:39
way. I can never find that they
1:52:41
find the twenty gauge at Sorrentino home.
1:52:44
So he must as as grab a shock on
1:52:46
from a shelf and when out that lightens and
1:52:48
I'll take this. but there's no way to determine.
1:52:51
If. It's the same junk as Zoc
1:52:53
on. That's why Omar use to shock on
1:52:55
masses, not double a six the same
1:52:57
way South know I was. It's twists and
1:53:00
screws or whatever the fuck, Twists and turns
1:53:02
and all it sets South Sudan the
1:53:04
cops now want to talk to Sue and
1:53:06
they arrest both the boys. Obviously. We.
1:53:09
Want to talk? They lied to and hear
1:53:11
about this. They said she was a fucking
1:53:13
stone wall would limit the shit. I don't
1:53:16
know what you're talking about. I don't know
1:53:18
what you're talking about. Yaps. First Paul was
1:53:20
defiant as well when they can't brought Paul
1:53:22
Santino and then the police. Played
1:53:24
the recording of the phone calls that he
1:53:26
had with the girl they were that's you
1:53:28
you stupid fuck know this call yeah and
1:53:31
that he went. So Kgb Club came to
1:53:33
be in. It is for a motorcycle and
1:53:35
three hundred fifty dollars is mounted labor gotta
1:53:37
use the spell it and I can so
1:53:39
much I want to tell us a Cinnabon,
1:53:41
a Marley Fox goddamn it's so as and
1:53:43
Jimmy was talk and everything to they said
1:53:45
the Jimmy seemed relieved to be getting this
1:53:47
off his chest. The price on bad about
1:53:49
it is I wasn't a monster but more
1:53:52
as soon as they even or wanted another
1:53:54
have. Yes, I knew a million kids
1:53:56
it that way were set them jimmy at
1:53:58
that age and they're fine now. Families
1:54:00
And you know not more than murder. Not
1:54:02
more than a murder. You mean often real
1:54:05
murder. Yeah yeah when he missed his fucking
1:54:07
around Israel and credit card and doing coke
1:54:09
in matters of as I was all my
1:54:11
friends do and shit like that. so I'm
1:54:14
during questioning she'd this is all that she
1:54:16
will say so and she said I'd had
1:54:18
nothing to do with this. She did say
1:54:20
that Jimmy told her on April eighteenth actress
1:54:22
had been killed but didn't not to tell
1:54:25
anyone because and she didn't want to tell
1:54:27
anyone says she was frightened than one of
1:54:29
the protect. Her son. And
1:54:32
see said that She said that
1:54:34
that Paul had told her. Eyes.
1:54:36
Paula told semi that if you don't them
1:54:38
you know my organized crime family will kill
1:54:40
your whole family. So.
1:54:43
That's it she says as he was a
1:54:45
scare as she was scared of getting killed
1:54:47
by the mafia. Now settle scarce in is
1:54:49
a bunch a kamikaze. so chef now just
1:54:51
to hang out with her body as I
1:54:54
need a new office and some kamikaze to
1:54:56
stop what area of the mafia? a home
1:54:58
office at some kamikaze will keep the mafia
1:55:00
ice so is she admitted to the police.
1:55:02
She went to Jimmy's apartment and told him
1:55:05
that something had to be done with Crest
1:55:07
and I discussed with a cast kill him.
1:55:09
I meant like you know counseling our military
1:55:11
school or something. Oh she said. I police
1:55:13
that asked her if the word killing ever came
1:55:15
up, did it ever come up and she said
1:55:18
no. Absolutely not. They, as sir, did
1:55:20
the midst of the word get rid of
1:55:22
Him ever come up and her response was
1:55:24
it probably dead but I didn't mean it
1:55:26
in that context of death. Get
1:55:29
rid of him Like send them away somewhere you
1:55:31
know, like you do with a thirteen year old.
1:55:33
Get rid of them Like. The
1:55:35
hell is that? So
1:55:37
they between as they they also
1:55:40
bow go between five and six
1:55:42
am they go on May fourth
1:55:44
and question. Suzanne. The.
1:55:47
Fifteen year old Suzanne as never considered
1:55:49
a suspect but she's brought to the
1:55:51
she was home at the time. Certainly
1:55:53
helpful but they bring and during the
1:55:55
of the interrogation see volunteers a whole
1:55:57
bunch of shit that's not good for
1:55:59
her mother. Or her. Notably.
1:56:01
That she overheard her and her mom
1:56:03
and Jimmy talking about the need to
1:56:05
get rid of grass. And.
1:56:08
She also by the way.
1:56:11
She. Knew about stuff and they said they
1:56:13
couldn't charge sure as an accessory but they
1:56:15
grant her immunity if she tells ever sell
1:56:18
the season. She had no active role in
1:56:20
it, she just knew it was going on.
1:56:22
Fly on the lawn when you're fifteen. that's
1:56:24
your mom. what the fuck are you give
1:56:26
a damn? In only made some I tell
1:56:28
my mom anything yeah so they said she
1:56:30
definitely had some involvement so they taper interview
1:56:32
she tells the officers that Chris have been
1:56:34
causing problems between at ensues and zoo and
1:56:36
and it's to an had told semi that
1:56:38
something had to be done about Press the
1:56:40
Daves disappear and Suzanne overheard Jimmy tell. Sue
1:56:42
Ann that someone. ah at that. He
1:56:44
and someone else we're going to take
1:56:46
care of. Crests, take him out and
1:56:48
get rid of him. His. Yeah.
1:56:51
So. At that point Sue and
1:56:54
told Jimmy I'll get out of the house
1:56:56
that night so you can take press. So.
1:56:59
That whole Burger King thing was a fucking plan.
1:57:01
Cheating caught on purpose. Yeah because it this way
1:57:03
she's not working Suzanne looking every night to said
1:57:05
that goose egg him up or onion rings the
1:57:07
Up: This was on purpose in cook so they
1:57:10
could go to Burger King because she knew we'd
1:57:12
be hungry. Ah, Sealed. How angry
1:57:14
would you be? I fear. weiss.
1:57:17
Distracted. You would burger to kill
1:57:19
your kid to hurt your case. head west.
1:57:21
couldn't even a given a decent meal and
1:57:23
an unplanned to because what if he was
1:57:25
like i know I'm tired I will. I
1:57:27
worked at the fucking dog food factory I
1:57:29
than a out a union meeting let's just
1:57:31
order a pizza and will he then I
1:57:34
wouldn't be said that if you're fucked as
1:57:36
athletes and I wanted and want to smell
1:57:38
anything that smells anything like dog food now
1:57:40
nothing six at Burger King counts. So.
1:57:43
She said that the as she heard
1:57:45
that and later that day sue and
1:57:48
told Suzanne. That. You need to
1:57:50
stay upstairs and take a shower when you hear Jimmy
1:57:52
come over to take great to get breast tip Easy
1:57:54
to get press at that point you see them com
1:57:56
and you go jump in the shower so you're not
1:57:59
a part of us. So
1:58:02
her mother told her a few days
1:58:04
later. When. You. Suzanne asked
1:58:06
her mom would happen to press. She said
1:58:09
that Jimmy took Chris out and took care
1:58:11
of him. And
1:58:13
Suzanne said she thought that meant he would
1:58:15
be get he was killed. That's I hope.
1:58:17
Suzanne as has had two or twenty five,
1:58:19
thirty forty years of Nightmares of Night and
1:58:21
and then therapy also so this doesn't happen
1:58:23
again. See also A B C gave it
1:58:25
right up out of the cops a man
1:58:27
or I mean see still this is a
1:58:29
dick move. man it is fifteen. I don't
1:58:31
know if you can tell on your mom
1:58:33
at fifteen especially now years as a say
1:58:35
shit that can be counted on. he's a
1:58:37
know count and I your mom's going to
1:58:40
be fucking go to jail what he was
1:58:42
Your mom says go go. Up and take a
1:58:44
shower so you're not part of the such fucked
1:58:46
up. oh it's mad fucked up. He as mom
1:58:48
is a monster here honestly and I feel bad
1:58:50
for Zag because I think she's insist upon this
1:58:52
whole thing and I don't know judging by the
1:58:54
like she's had an amount. So by I mean
1:58:56
obviously this wasn't cool. She could have a be.
1:58:59
Done something seekers told that about yeah up with
1:59:01
them what do you deal because and would stand
1:59:03
would have see denies it. Now they're both the
1:59:06
parents are yelling at you and you're in trouble
1:59:08
and as the when you're citizens have no agency
1:59:10
see to the told him to get the fuck
1:59:12
out of the house and analysis and that yeah
1:59:14
but then wasn't why to me and on the
1:59:16
yeah no I totally get it on by I'm
1:59:18
trying to just play devil's advocate of what you
1:59:20
would be thinking if you were fifteen and this
1:59:22
is going on in your house. Your your family's
1:59:25
about a murder, your step brother I don't know,
1:59:27
it's partners man had a know what to do
1:59:29
with. And you know how to do that.
1:59:31
South Sea said that. I. See.
1:59:33
It was Suzanne says her mom also told her that
1:59:35
she threw away the wall and at the shopping center.
1:59:38
So. Yeah. Following the
1:59:40
interview with Suzanne, They. Van
1:59:42
tape record another interview with with
1:59:45
Sue Am after the Suzanne interview
1:59:47
after the daughter so and this
1:59:49
also say is that she had
1:59:51
been at Chris had been causing
1:59:54
problems by threatening Suzanne which says
1:59:56
and. Said. That such of
1:59:58
it off And that. Zoo and
2:00:00
had as Jimmy to talk to press and knew that
2:00:02
Jimmy and his friend were going to take for south
2:00:04
that night and try to scare him so he would
2:00:07
leave Suzanne alone. That's
2:00:09
of. This was when she found out
2:00:11
the next day what happened she was
2:00:13
afraid to tell her husband she admitted
2:00:15
now notes he hears her daughter on
2:00:17
tape saying it's she admits to taking
2:00:19
the the wallet to the shopping center
2:00:21
the day after the disappearance and damn
2:00:23
guess she was. She just hope that
2:00:25
this that it would say. She's
2:00:27
I never thought he would hurt. It's
2:00:29
all Jimmy Junior. He's a crazy person. as
2:00:31
soon as it's snowing or fun under the
2:00:33
bus to see has done nothing but shit
2:00:35
on for I was a small sideline that
2:00:37
all back in time he never had a
2:00:39
goddamn chance. And dumb,
2:00:41
She denied ever talking to Jimmy about killing
2:00:44
Press. The day after the disappearance, Jimmy called
2:00:46
and said that Paul had killed Press and
2:00:48
that he said that he would kill all
2:00:50
that. I'm as she told anyone says, she
2:00:52
said she couldn't do it the she was
2:00:54
terrified of the sixteen year old mafia hitman
2:00:56
right? Yeah. She
2:00:59
didn't tell her husband or the police for
2:01:01
fear of what Sorrentino would do to her
2:01:03
and her family and of what her husband
2:01:05
would do to Jimmy and policy found out
2:01:07
and so it would have been a big
2:01:09
battle. you know any means. so I'm a
2:01:12
lot. They talked to a lot of people
2:01:14
and a lot of people say that Jimmy
2:01:16
had state and off and that he hated
2:01:18
press and was angry with him for telling
2:01:20
his parents that to use drugs and stole
2:01:22
credit cards even though he did neither. Those
2:01:25
things first my those on business the. Zoo
2:01:28
and will say also that I. Jimmy
2:01:31
kept safe. He would get even with Chris. I didn't know
2:01:33
this is what he met. While it's terrible, So.
2:01:36
Yeah, that's interesting. They bring in a
2:01:38
claim and our son see it Just
2:01:40
throw at him whenever that Silvers crazy
2:01:42
scissors, super visas yes the disease, a
2:01:44
view to pieces of she made her
2:01:46
son do it and then fuck him
2:01:48
to throw my under the bus was
2:01:50
like what a crazy person heated what
2:01:52
for add everybody it analyze. Wow.
2:01:55
A Dell? Yeah, I can't when we really
2:01:57
can't observe the can't depend on sets. So
2:01:59
a cousin. The of Cresses said in a
2:02:01
recent interview that Chris told his grandmother a few
2:02:03
weeks before he was killed, that he was afraid
2:02:05
of Sudan and Jimmy. Has.
2:02:08
Set mom and a step brothers the last time this
2:02:10
is the cars In the last time he was at
2:02:12
my grandmother's house he begged not to go home because
2:02:14
he was afraid of so add and Jimmy. He said
2:02:16
i don't want to go home because he's going to
2:02:18
kill me. How.
2:02:20
Bad is that grandmother feel? How
2:02:22
the an awful would use Obviously
2:02:24
you guys early eighties and dramatic?
2:02:27
Oh my god, how bad would
2:02:29
you feel? Holy shit when told
2:02:31
of that statement. Because. Ad
2:02:33
was there. And add
2:02:35
when told of that statement rose up out
2:02:37
of his share and angrily assed said why
2:02:40
didn't they get off the rassam tell somebody
2:02:42
if he told them that, why didn't they
2:02:44
do something about it, why did they help
2:02:46
him He was freaking the fuck out. Jesus
2:02:49
Christ is mad at everybody now as went
2:02:51
into a rage. So now they talk to
2:02:53
Or Terry Cole who is Jimmy's Ah Jimmy
2:02:55
Juniors twenty one year old roommate. Man.
2:02:58
He shares the apartment with them since April First
2:03:01
saw the kid moved them for two weeks and
2:03:03
then killed somebody and a is gone. I don't
2:03:05
think he's going to pay. may wrap your out
2:03:07
of science and a lead us as we can
2:03:09
get and suggests there chase over if. He
2:03:11
said that Semi crumb did not
2:03:13
like rests. After Chris disappearance J
2:03:16
Jimmy told him the little shit
2:03:18
ran away. Net result and
2:03:20
little shit ran away. He said
2:03:22
that semi from arrive repeatedly referred
2:03:24
to as stepbrother with a derogatory
2:03:26
term and said that Chris had
2:03:28
knocked on him. About. The
2:03:30
continent credit cards in the We and though
2:03:32
as a drugs and also this roommate said
2:03:34
that Jimmy Crumb told him that sue and
2:03:36
plan to buy him a car with the
2:03:38
money she expected to get from a lawsuit
2:03:40
plan he planned to file again for former
2:03:42
husband for crowd report. says.
2:03:45
It says the assessor survey was land
2:03:47
is back. Child support will finance all
2:03:49
of this. Yes she's going to say
2:03:51
oh and I'm an Asu. This guy
2:03:54
who's a fucking he's not a real
2:03:56
good that I don't know now having
2:03:58
a so far despite south. Now.
2:04:02
Sees a range. And
2:04:04
they said that a hit. Her
2:04:06
lawyer said that look nothing. She.
2:04:09
Said as important they have nothing new incriminate
2:04:11
her they said She said very little. Quote
2:04:14
Mostly it's a lotta rhetoric on the
2:04:16
part of the police officers, and that's
2:04:18
all she said was that she didn't
2:04:20
kill the kids. So why are you
2:04:22
holding her on this heavy, hardcore bond?
2:04:24
So she's originally the bond is set
2:04:26
at one hundred thousand dollars and then
2:04:28
they reduce it to fifty thousand dollars
2:04:30
for so am. An. Fucking
2:04:33
add pays for her bond as
2:04:35
get her out a fuck in
2:04:37
jail. Okay, do that.
2:04:40
At his as i don't know what's
2:04:42
going on and as brain but adds
2:04:44
brain has gotta be like fireworks and
2:04:46
that a now that around and saw
2:04:49
ah it's wild because add then this
2:04:51
is fucking crazy he gets right to
2:04:53
jail then he divorced as her of
2:04:55
her. Okay but before they
2:04:58
try her, he rebury serve.
2:05:00
As. He divorces and
2:05:03
remarry sir in the time between the
2:05:05
arrest and the trial. Her.
2:05:07
Voice and and sees out of prison to
2:05:10
be arrested to be divorced and remarried all
2:05:12
patty out of jail. A
2:05:14
idea justifiable like. What's.
2:05:17
Happening is just insane.
2:05:19
I know lessons about
2:05:21
what's happening, the net
2:05:23
know shit, then. This.
2:05:26
Is fucking crazy. Two months after she's
2:05:28
arrested, they drop the fucking charges against
2:05:30
her. Say. Again, they
2:05:33
dropped the charges against Or then
2:05:35
on June Twenty second, Nineteen Eighty
2:05:37
One. He. He
2:05:39
they've refile the charges against them against
2:05:41
her. When. She was
2:05:44
originally arrested the first time at wanted nothing
2:05:46
to do other is t he said oh
2:05:48
my god she she killed my kids he
2:05:50
asked the court officials to have for kept
2:05:52
away from the family home if she gets
2:05:54
Bell said he bailed or out. Very.
2:05:57
Divorce or. Then. They brought
2:05:59
us the arises in a remote as they
2:06:02
remarried her and then they reinstate the charges.
2:06:04
So. I guess he remarried. Earth yeah when
2:06:07
they dropped the charges he said i'll
2:06:09
I guess I my bad I guess
2:06:11
I john too soon acted to bass
2:06:13
Yeah and then they read file charges
2:06:15
and but they're already married again. He
2:06:17
remarried her he said after. He.
2:06:19
Is that he divorced? or he thought it was
2:06:21
a mistake? By the way, it was like three
2:06:23
days after their divorce went through, they got remarried.
2:06:27
So right when the when it finally came
2:06:29
through they went right down and got remarried
2:06:31
and he said he remarried or after realizing
2:06:33
that she was completely and totally innocent. He
2:06:37
said it. Had. Said says He said
2:06:39
if there was any question in his mind
2:06:41
that she was an innocent, he would have
2:06:44
killed her himself. Either
2:06:46
killed or if I dashed to kill my cat
2:06:48
I thought that's where this was gosnell see that
2:06:50
a bad rap that I dbs gonna open this
2:06:52
woman in the living with them. Where we go
2:06:54
and dig for worms sweetheart That's where as dig
2:06:56
for were stick your grave. I mean we're the
2:06:58
I mean for worms and there's a lot of
2:07:00
need, a lot of worms or don't vicious he
2:07:03
said oh yes if she wasn't totally innocent I
2:07:05
would have killed her and we wouldn't be here
2:07:07
today talking about it. This is by the way
2:07:09
while he sitting at the kitchen table with our
2:07:11
cities as to as if reporter. He
2:07:14
said he initially refused to allow her
2:07:16
to return home because he was confused.
2:07:19
He said. I knew in my depression over the
2:07:21
loss of my son that I could not at
2:07:23
that time make any kind of fair judgement on
2:07:25
her. And that he pats are on
2:07:27
the hand and said she could have walked away the
2:07:30
she could have walked in that door Totally as innocent
2:07:32
as she is and I would have killed her I
2:07:34
don't know if I would have been I could have.
2:07:36
this is while his patting her nicely on the had
2:07:38
see the locked in a blue or brains out the
2:07:40
back of her fuck it had an amount of and
2:07:42
good he said he said my son came first to
2:07:45
me and everyone knows that including Sue Ann which is
2:07:47
another reason why should in like. As
2:07:49
he came first. Heres the reason right there.
2:07:52
Yeah, No one hurt my son that didn't
2:07:54
get hurt back. I loved him and I
2:07:56
miss him very very much. So.
2:08:00
Story start to come out from relatives and
2:08:02
neighbors. Same Chris wasn't allowed to eat at
2:08:04
the dinner table because so and wouldn't Didn't
2:08:06
want to look at him and they said
2:08:08
he was forced to eat alone either before
2:08:10
or after the family had eaten their meal.
2:08:14
Op. Eds as of course he ate with us.
2:08:16
Had my son not been allowed to sit down at
2:08:18
the table with meets their wouldn't have been a damn
2:08:20
table to sit down to. I'd have taken this house
2:08:22
apart but it back together again. Everything's
2:08:26
anger. With that over the
2:08:28
top. He said that it's
2:08:30
crazy that he said i just don't understand
2:08:32
it's i didn't know there be out there
2:08:35
was anything wrong. they had ups and downs
2:08:37
him and zoo and is but I didn't
2:08:39
see anything abnormal. They. Go. So you
2:08:41
know, why would I think that's he said
2:08:43
that the the kids Jimmy Junior and Press
2:08:45
had a couple of spots but nothing I saw
2:08:47
as unusual. He said maybe I was blind.
2:08:50
I. Think so you're at work a lot as what
2:08:52
it as that from the amount of time as the
2:08:54
all is set which is happens. He said that you
2:08:56
know. Jimmy Junior stayed there
2:08:58
for about eight months. He left two
2:09:00
months ago and move to Lend excess.
2:09:03
And the party was amicable and I didn't think
2:09:05
there was anything wrong. He said the Chris was
2:09:07
a happy boy. He wasn't a problem child. Yeah
2:09:10
and I. His
2:09:12
Sunday school teacher said that he was
2:09:14
a very loving, happy, outgoing child. You
2:09:16
immediately liked him because he was bubbly
2:09:18
Talking about Chris those Alex I forget
2:09:20
it would completely ruin the harmony of
2:09:22
a household. Know the not lift is.
2:09:26
So. Jimmy goes to trial first season
2:09:28
he's going to go to trial on this
2:09:30
was I don't know what he's gone to
2:09:33
trial for because you're a emitted dirty fucking
2:09:35
dead. The snazzy claim and not guilty in
2:09:37
that charge was allowed to say they're doing.
2:09:39
They get psychiatrists testifying here now. A psychiatrist
2:09:41
testified first that Jimmy knew what was wrong
2:09:43
to kill a stepbrother for hims, the killing
2:09:46
out of fear and laws for his mother,
2:09:48
who he thought was the most powerful person
2:09:50
the world. and I. You
2:09:52
know, a disproportionate you know at a lack
2:09:54
of view of his mom which kids still
2:09:57
sort. That. Happens one doctor
2:09:59
told. The jury that I Jimmy crab
2:10:01
new the killing was wrong but didn't
2:10:03
have the mental capacity to fully appreciate
2:10:05
the consequences of our on it was
2:10:07
and Jimmy admitted he killed him but
2:10:09
told police the deck for his mom
2:10:11
and they said yeah that's why he
2:10:13
did it as what these what these
2:10:15
I doctors are going to sites I'm.
2:10:18
A this make him stickers on brave
2:10:20
those little much is. Now.
2:10:23
Gr. Jim Crow, Jimmy Crumb, seniors
2:10:25
even going to testify here Really?
2:10:28
Yes, the defense testimony they they pay
2:10:30
a picture of Jimmy Crime is a
2:10:32
lost child to grow up wanting to
2:10:34
please a mother who abandoned him when
2:10:36
he was eight years old. The pretty
2:10:38
good picture didn't see him for more
2:10:40
than eight years. She attempted to receive
2:10:42
our reestablish a relationship with him in
2:10:44
Nineteen Seventy Eight, asked him to move
2:10:46
in or home and Overland Park and
2:10:48
she had the other kids there and
2:10:50
I'll lock everything south for almost. Ah,
2:10:52
he lived there for a while and
2:10:54
dumb they say no one knows why
2:10:56
he left the home with things. Seem
2:10:59
to be developing. I'm free Junior
2:11:01
loved his mother but was terrified.
2:11:03
Of his mother's on Omnipotent
2:11:06
are omnipotent Power South Seas
2:11:08
omnipotent. The sprites I'm he
2:11:10
saw her has a wealthy
2:11:12
and powerful person who could
2:11:14
effectively use other people without
2:11:16
any repercussions. really. When. You're
2:11:18
kid. you see adults as knowing what they're doing
2:11:20
even though they don't But when you're kidding on
2:11:22
a must know what they're doing they have like
2:11:25
a car and shit I don't as it gets
2:11:27
three hundred fifty dollars says guess you could just
2:11:29
as well that are a time and ah another
2:11:31
psychiatry that. Did. Some testing on Jimmy
2:11:33
at a clinic here said that his
2:11:35
mother was paranoid and kept him constant
2:11:37
and repeated pressure on him to kill.
2:11:40
Job. To kill Crests They said
2:11:42
that he was told the psychiatrist was
2:11:44
told by Jimmy from Junior that. He.
2:11:47
Had attempted to kill the kid before and
2:11:49
said stat and told Jimmy Junior this kid
2:11:51
spreading rumors about me spreading rumors about your
2:11:54
sister. You Now At one
2:11:56
time she tried to put cocaine on a stick
2:11:58
of gum to kill him and. That's going
2:12:00
to do it again. Largest: This is
2:12:02
the opposite of the whalers his making
2:12:04
them so cool User: yeah you're just
2:12:06
making them learn. Had a party with
2:12:08
like this is wild so when asked
2:12:10
if Crumb was insane the doctor refused
2:12:12
to say he says I cannot answer
2:12:14
that question. That's for the jury to
2:12:16
decide. He. Said that James
2:12:18
new in an intellectual way. the killing was
2:12:21
against society, but it's plausible that he didn't
2:12:23
appreciate the wrong fullness of his act in
2:12:25
the same way a person with better sense
2:12:27
of who he was one of he didn't
2:12:29
have the apparatus to fully appreciate the wrong
2:12:31
fullness of his behavior. They.
2:12:34
Bring him! Jimmy Junior Jimmy Senior. He's
2:12:37
been going to the trial. He said
2:12:39
that his divorce lead to drinking problems
2:12:41
and intermittent contact with his son as
2:12:43
well. Unaware of Alec at was he's
2:12:46
crying, saying he had mistreated a sudden
2:12:48
very well He said, no sir, I
2:12:50
haven't been a very good father virtually
2:12:52
in a sense. I dumped him. She's.
2:12:55
Been just sit on by both his parents if.
2:12:58
He became is openly weeping understand.
2:13:01
And. Dumb as hey he has. He hugged
2:13:03
his father as he left the courtroom. Jimmy
2:13:05
Junior dead so I guess he felt bad
2:13:07
as adams as and was crying. Even those
2:13:10
dads treated him like shit. He is this
2:13:12
weird thing he wants to make his parents
2:13:14
happy so his lawyer now crumbs lawyer said.
2:13:17
Here. That Jimmy was I invited to live
2:13:19
with them and.the reason why he was the only
2:13:21
reason why he was invited into the houses
2:13:23
costume and was already plotting to kill Press and
2:13:25
had decided that Jimmy was the one it was
2:13:27
going to do that. That's the decides that Jimmy
2:13:30
never had a chance because from the minute he
2:13:32
was tall though now I love you again Come
2:13:34
with a my house it was only that is
2:13:36
what a roof over your over your head now
2:13:39
you murder for me. Yeah. But
2:13:41
add said, understand that quote. That's all a
2:13:43
bunch of crap. He.
2:13:45
Said we brought Jimmy into this house
2:13:47
try to give him a chance for
2:13:50
life something he never had. Anyone who
2:13:52
saying that doesn't have enough intelligence dugout
2:13:54
know what's going on. I don't think
2:13:56
anyone has enough guts to say that
2:13:59
to my face. He says he's ready
2:14:01
to fight in court. The sky is
2:14:03
the fights everybody fell fight. everybody's like
2:14:05
Joe Pepper dogs that this so will
2:14:08
be present. Extensive psychiatric testimony dealing with
2:14:10
his Jimmy Juniors history as suggest ability,
2:14:12
his alcoholism since a very young age
2:14:14
is weird relationship with his parents and
2:14:17
every other goddamn thing. Max I three
2:14:19
different psychiatrists testify for defense and express
2:14:21
the opinion that he did not know
2:14:23
the difference between right and wrong if
2:14:26
the time of the killing to psychiatrists
2:14:28
testify for the state and they. All
2:14:30
say that he was saying that the times new
2:14:32
the difference between right and wrong understood the quality
2:14:34
of nature of his axe and knew that the
2:14:36
killing was wrong. A
2:14:38
I Yeah, so they did that. I'm.
2:14:41
Now. They talk about
2:14:43
are all of this they say Will he
2:14:45
testified He was scheduled to testify in his
2:14:48
own behalf. Jimmy Jr. But.
2:14:50
A a private investigator who worked him for
2:14:52
the defense said that the decision was made
2:14:54
in the middle of the week not to
2:14:56
put him on the stand here. He.
2:14:59
Said one of the main reasons we
2:15:01
didn't was because his mental condition was
2:15:03
so fragile that drawings showed his condition
2:15:05
was deteriorating during the term real they're
2:15:07
talking about these. Is apparently
2:15:09
constantly Jimmy Junior scribblings pictures on
2:15:12
a yellow legal pad. here. They
2:15:14
said those drawings were shown to
2:15:16
Jock Doctor Charles Wells Psychologists to
2:15:18
said the drawings indicated personality disintegration
2:15:21
right on the spot where he
2:15:23
could see them over the days.
2:15:25
really. Fall. Apart he said the
2:15:27
drawings are not shown to the public because
2:15:30
of the concern for his mental states and.
2:15:33
South Closing. Of.
2:15:36
The. Prosecution urged the jury's remember that
2:15:38
little Chris Hobson will never laugh or
2:15:41
cry again. Yeah. And I
2:15:43
told the whole story as he's telling the
2:15:45
story. Jimmy from Junior says looking at down
2:15:47
at the floor crying which is a bad
2:15:49
that good and closing your trial saga that
2:15:52
he said the prosecutor said i gotta believe
2:15:54
when the dust settled down around Christmas body
2:15:56
and his pulse faded away. Jimmy from no
2:15:58
idea if you've ever been caught. If it
2:16:00
hadn't been for a quirk of fate he
2:16:02
never would have extra. It really was and
2:16:05
is was out in the middle of nowhere
2:16:07
this was about to be allotted. About
2:16:10
to be flooded forever. Six man,
2:16:12
six women on the jury in.
2:16:14
Two. Hours. It sucks for them to come back. And
2:16:17
may bring in a verdict of guilty. For
2:16:20
Jimmy from Junior and I'm at
2:16:22
that point. He. Maintained his composure
2:16:24
until he was taken back to the
2:16:27
jail area where he became emotionally upset
2:16:29
and started crying and screaming. Fucking freaked
2:16:31
out Los Zetas! Some about to say
2:16:33
they are forever and forever and they
2:16:36
said that was people filed out. James
2:16:38
from Senior could be seen standing in
2:16:40
front of the jail openly crying as
2:16:42
well. We. Saw.
2:16:45
The sentencing comes around and damn if they didn't
2:16:47
do it so bad. if they were just like
2:16:49
he was walk in the other way. such a
2:16:51
shot of in the back of a heads they
2:16:53
would see a carbon they made him take his
2:16:56
own grave. Fucked up. Mom. Didn't say
2:16:58
make him take his own drains like
2:17:00
that's extra. I think that you're lazy
2:17:02
so south east, but I do feel
2:17:04
terrible because he just wants his model
2:17:06
of them anyway. you young man, May.
2:17:09
Fuck off fifteen years to life for help her
2:17:11
Yes, oh there Have you seen? the life isn't
2:17:13
as as seen in the in time up for
2:17:15
parole and there's no fucking ways getting out the
2:17:18
first time. That brought will
2:17:20
talk about oh My. God as
2:17:22
out. The. Reactions: What the jury
2:17:24
foreman Darryl Williamson said the all the jurors
2:17:26
felt sympathy for Jimmy Junior. they all for
2:17:29
hims aimed same as I do. They said
2:17:31
they'd is a minute giant it yeah he
2:17:33
was used by this woman is if they
2:17:35
said he said quote most of the people
2:17:37
felt sorry for the boy being an instrument
2:17:39
of his mother. I imagine most of the
2:17:42
people would rather have seen as mother on
2:17:44
trial meaning the jurors. He said the verdict
2:17:46
up to ballots because there was a question
2:17:48
of sympathy for Jimmy. They
2:17:51
went around, someone said not guilty, they had
2:17:53
to go Look, I know we feel bad, but
2:17:55
the law as this is this and that
2:17:57
south. Another juror said he if they agreed
2:17:59
with Williamson. He had no doubt that
2:18:01
from was killed in to the coaxed into the
2:18:03
killing by his mother. He said it's a shame
2:18:05
to say but I don't think he would have
2:18:07
done it if she hadn't told himself. I guarantee
2:18:09
you we wouldn't have done a now this his
2:18:12
mother was the ringleader of at all. If she's
2:18:14
not charge somebody is wacky. And.
2:18:16
Hims. Ah yes, they said that. I'm. They.
2:18:19
The prosecutor said that he was pleased with the
2:18:21
conviction but then they said are you going to
2:18:23
charge To add to this is when or charges
2:18:25
were dropped and that time he would declined to
2:18:27
comment. While. I
2:18:29
was fucking wild He said I cannot comment
2:18:31
on charges being filed. That's not my decision
2:18:33
I you know upstairs as I can talk
2:18:35
about it like that they said it was
2:18:37
the he was the county attorney's or crumbs.
2:18:39
Attorney said he was shocked by the shore
2:18:41
only two hours taken by the jury. He
2:18:43
said I was surprised they came back that
2:18:45
fast. I don't see how they could have
2:18:47
given fair considerations. All the facts. But.
2:18:50
He also gets criticized the insanity law,
2:18:52
calling it a simplistic rule. He said
2:18:55
it's a rule that should have been
2:18:57
thrashed out one hundred years ago himself.
2:18:59
Yeah, he said that the defense was
2:19:01
wasn't a choice. Jimmy's a very, very
2:19:03
sick man with severe emotional problems. And
2:19:06
enough, this is crazy South Sorrentino now.
2:19:09
They. Offer him a deal. Really?
2:19:12
Yeah, because I think they deserve a
2:19:14
guy like that nowadays. Now they don't
2:19:16
now. So they are give him a
2:19:18
deal to plead guilty to aiding and
2:19:21
abetting first degree murder. Even though the
2:19:23
police or his Ireland's a Shot shot
2:19:25
it and die he will be. He
2:19:27
gets the same thing you young man
2:19:30
may fuck off. Fifteen to life would
2:19:32
still be eligible for parole after serving
2:19:34
six and a half years. Holy Shit.
2:19:36
Yes, six and a half years is
2:19:39
given a life sentence for pleading guilty.
2:19:41
But they said that yeah, he's They
2:19:43
say at first he is not eligible
2:19:45
for parole for fifteen years. but then
2:19:47
they find out that he is eligible
2:19:49
and six a half years based on
2:19:51
the sentencing at the types. So ah
2:19:53
yes, he answered that, please. And he
2:19:55
also Jimmy, by the way, agreed to
2:19:57
testify against his mother. Tell a drop.
2:19:59
Oh. Yup, And I'm. Than.
2:20:02
Sodas fault, so that's how that goes. On
2:20:05
So they're saying that. The.
2:20:07
Deal that adds really pissed
2:20:09
off. At. Said it's
2:20:11
bullshit that they made a deal with Sorrentino
2:20:13
in exchange for his testimony against my wife.
2:20:16
He said this is about politics is what
2:20:18
this says Know. That
2:20:21
that. The. D A is Dennis Moore and
2:20:23
he says here's where Dennis Mars coming from He says
2:20:25
let me do it this way I'll charge her and
2:20:27
Will at the court decides I don't believe it's revenge
2:20:29
of any kind. I think it's strictly that he's wanting
2:20:31
to run for Attorney General and he wants to save
2:20:34
face. Yeah. He
2:20:36
said he's opened his mouth and stuck his
2:20:38
foot in it by filing charges against so
2:20:40
and he knows he's not guilty. but he
2:20:42
won't admit it or he won't admit to
2:20:44
making a mistake. He'd be a much bigger
2:20:46
man to say hey, I made a big
2:20:48
mistake. I decided to my job at Doesn't
2:20:50
trust a soul on this planet and it
2:20:52
may stem from his daughter being raped in
2:20:54
a very young age by a family member.
2:20:56
on there is why.i'd rather a fucking a
2:20:59
dang they defiled his daughter the night before
2:21:01
have funeral everybody's out to get out in
2:21:03
his mind South's and all genome as soon
2:21:05
as. Know. Where that's the other
2:21:07
thing someone kills or he also mistakenly believe that
2:21:09
Sorrentino will be out of jail and one hundred
2:21:11
twenty days and somehow he says about to the
2:21:14
about the prosecutor he flat out lied to me,
2:21:16
he made a deal with the person who cold
2:21:18
bloodedly killed my son and that lets and get
2:21:20
back on the street in one hundred twenty days
2:21:22
and kill somebody else and I don't buy that
2:21:25
in any way shape or form but they say
2:21:27
that prosecutor said it's will not be a hundred
2:21:29
twenty days. In fact it'll be a number of
2:21:31
years before he ever sees a parole board of
2:21:34
the prosecutor said which is a fact sell arms.
2:21:36
He then says ad says last year disrupt
2:21:38
District Attorney Dennis Moore promised me justice. He
2:21:40
said we were going to go for first
2:21:42
degree murder on both of them and he
2:21:45
wouldn't stop until they got it. Dennis Moore
2:21:47
said he wasn't going to plea bargain, but
2:21:49
he has. So.
2:21:51
I'm after that Sue Ads
2:21:53
trial. Talk. About that a little
2:21:56
bit. here. I'm. They. Are going
2:21:58
to these different attorneys are. Team
2:22:00
up to prosecute her. Morris and another
2:22:02
counties attorney are going to team up
2:22:05
here like Johnson Miami Counties working together
2:22:07
here. He. Said Stephen. I'll
2:22:09
be working together. I hear on this case
2:22:11
of the Stepmother, and our next step is
2:22:13
the preliminary hearing. Instead of going to do
2:22:15
that, she's currently free by the way, on
2:22:17
Bond stealth on a real Ed. Is
2:22:20
adamantly defending his wife's innocent and
2:22:22
war a war a t shirt
2:22:24
to the courthouse that said they
2:22:27
promised me justice I promised them
2:22:29
revenge. Oh my god these melody
2:22:31
a threat He's making threats in
2:22:33
t shirt farm in public floggings.
2:22:35
Wow as he went and had
2:22:37
his had as threats screen printed
2:22:39
and war them to the court
2:22:41
said. Once. That on
2:22:44
a cell board. Holy. Shit.
2:22:46
He. Said that sue and did not kill his
2:22:48
sudden. He says anyone who hurts his family will
2:22:50
be hurt and retired and I'm not hurting her
2:22:53
which means indo it's. They.
2:22:55
Say the newspaper says quote when talking with
2:22:57
hearts and he comes across as a sincere,
2:22:59
quiet man. A man with an intense inner
2:23:01
conflict. A man confused by what life has
2:23:03
offered him. I that's a good way to
2:23:06
put confused by what life is offered up.
2:23:08
He said, I've had a lot of sleepless
2:23:10
nights, but I just take it one day.
2:23:12
The times, No, I don't think I'm cursed.
2:23:14
No one is cursed. Actually asked do you
2:23:16
think your cursor assess the eldest tragedy or
2:23:19
why that? Ah, He said that he's going
2:23:21
to stand beside his wife in every day
2:23:23
this trials. He said she's being framed. By
2:23:25
to drug dealing punks, Wow.
2:23:29
Yeah. Crowds lined up for hours
2:23:31
in advance of like the O J
2:23:33
trial. like of sexiest the reporters are
2:23:35
like a at all these things happened,
2:23:38
maybe sales? So yes it's a free
2:23:40
think add your cursor. What? Did
2:23:43
you like piss off a lady with a big
2:23:45
war? know we're the nose in years past has
2:23:47
like a cause or and go as yours but
2:23:49
like eye of New and as you heller fuck
2:23:51
yourself or something back into that navy it's you
2:23:53
math yeah of fucked up thing to say to
2:23:55
a man and a courthouse that a slight that
2:23:57
was everyone's dead or in jail or lol. Family.
2:24:00
So yeah, all sorts of people come
2:24:02
to this trial. There were a lot
2:24:05
of doubt of surrounding the courtroom ability
2:24:07
of District Attorney Dennis Moore. They.
2:24:09
Said that it was a suburban town. we
2:24:11
as a trial on a complicated murder trials.
2:24:13
Yes. So. Another witness here that
2:24:15
comes up this is my this is Margie
2:24:17
Hunt Fair The one this went out drinking
2:24:19
with So and as a savage and you
2:24:21
know anything about her wanting to get rid
2:24:24
of her son and she said quote she
2:24:26
hated him and wish that he was gone.
2:24:28
She wanted him out. She. Said
2:24:30
she wasn't mental. She said he wasn't mentally right
2:24:32
and for his own good, he needs to be
2:24:34
put in an institution. And
2:24:36
she also said that wow.
2:24:39
Holy. By by through all of this Sue
2:24:42
at is just glaring. Death Rays?
2:24:44
Yeah, this woman is that raises. She.
2:24:47
Testified that zoo and once asked her
2:24:49
quote if I knew anyone in the
2:24:51
Mafia and asked if I ever heard
2:24:53
the name Sorrentino mentioned in connection with
2:24:55
the mafia. Every
2:24:58
year like a sort have you watched documentaries
2:25:00
ever Silica Sorrentino mixed up in there. Was
2:25:03
this a question with us? So
2:25:07
this lady had moved away to Connecticut,
2:25:09
works as a bartender now here ads
2:25:11
yes she away She said she's been
2:25:13
friends with zoo and for several years
2:25:15
and sar several times a week. And
2:25:17
after she married add, their conversations often
2:25:19
center on the problems that Chris was
2:25:21
causing in the relationship. She.
2:25:24
Said that he was a problem. She said he would
2:25:26
act like a three year old and embarrass her and
2:25:28
so she refused to be seen in public with him
2:25:30
up God. That's awful.
2:25:32
The Jury: seven men, five women on this
2:25:34
and by the likes separate even the day
2:25:37
after he was reported missing. They talk about
2:25:39
the going out to drink and she said
2:25:41
she was in a good mood. She said
2:25:43
Chris was gone within an hour. She was
2:25:45
at my place saying let's go out and
2:25:47
celebrate. Twice.
2:25:49
That day they went out and
2:25:51
had drinks and twice Sue and
2:25:53
Toasted Presses Disappearance see, toasted it
2:25:55
see got hammered twice in one
2:25:57
day at Suppress Go and missing.
2:26:00
How much she's party and holy shit or
2:26:02
see on vacation and I'm is a fucking
2:26:04
Bahamas like. That's what people do. They go
2:26:06
to an island for vacation. They get up,
2:26:08
get hammered, take a bath, wake up, eat
2:26:10
some food. Gabbert against. Array
2:26:13
of toasting. Everything to sell inclusive was
2:26:15
during some more Holy shit now they
2:26:17
tried to get it so this woman
2:26:20
wouldn't be able to testify. As they
2:26:22
said, a warrant had been issued for
2:26:24
Margie his arrest and a civil judgment
2:26:26
was answered by a judge because she
2:26:29
had taken more than forty thousand dollars
2:26:31
worth of jewelry from a client of
2:26:33
there's. Saw. The court
2:26:35
records show that a judge entered
2:26:38
a default judgment against her last
2:26:40
December when she fell to answer
2:26:42
claim that she had Swam Hobson's
2:26:44
jewelry. See. Say that. I.
2:26:46
Guess the zoo and says I gave her
2:26:49
my jewelry when I went to jail. assholes
2:26:51
and she just took it took off as
2:26:53
he sold it. Yeah thought so they're Sanders
2:26:55
bids kill the kids Never yeah man I'm
2:26:58
cel never other say she's lying so she
2:27:00
can keep this jewelry and I have anything.
2:27:03
You know what out there? so that's how
2:27:05
it goes on. Whatever.
2:27:07
So I'm anyway. twice during the
2:27:10
testimony is it could sue and
2:27:12
slammed her hand down on the
2:27:14
table and said bullshit under her
2:27:16
breath. Very loud as loudly are
2:27:18
bullshit. Fucking. That's that's
2:27:20
he can't control it. Even Oj
2:27:23
didn't do that like Godzilla. Fuck
2:27:25
out. Another witness,
2:27:27
a teacher came in and said
2:27:29
that Zoo added soldier the christymas
2:27:31
Chris was causing difficulties. The family
2:27:34
Jimmy testifies against his mind as.
2:27:36
Yup, And said he had nothing to do with
2:27:38
moving the wallet from the bedroom to the shopping center.
2:27:40
He said my mother told me that she did that.
2:27:43
And job they get out for her his arm.
2:27:46
They. Get his probation officer in there as
2:27:48
well and she said that she discussed
2:27:50
the credit card problem with Jimmy crime
2:27:52
and swam hops in a few days
2:27:54
before Christmas killed. She said zoo and
2:27:56
talked with her about her family said
2:27:58
we discussed the Ted situation, the home
2:28:00
and she said that I'm She was
2:28:02
saying she wanted to leave the marriage
2:28:04
but couldn't afford to because of financial
2:28:06
reasons. Suicide.
2:28:09
About leaving add oh my
2:28:11
god then. There's. A delay
2:28:14
in the trial because. She.
2:28:16
Has to be delayed while she's for
2:28:18
a drug overdose. Had see to see
2:28:20
a drop in the joint. Though
2:28:23
she's a home see that about all. yeah I
2:28:25
guess as he gets access all her clothes, access
2:28:27
dollars, rods and so the judge drugs or in
2:28:29
jail for the rest the trial because it. It's
2:28:32
can. Be avenue telling yourself in
2:28:34
the getting a hearty ang after trial
2:28:36
Yes so I they said. Jimmy Import
2:28:38
looked like he was resigned in defeated.
2:28:41
He spoke quietly. A said dumb
2:28:43
he was the only one that didn't
2:28:45
appear to parse. Every word is testify
2:28:47
to go about the bizarre relationship with
2:28:49
his mom about her com and over.
2:28:53
They. Asked if he liked press or hated press
2:28:55
and he said it would be more like a
2:28:57
more it would be more than dislike. He said
2:28:59
he didn't like dresser. And.
2:29:01
She said he said that she just kept pressuring me she
2:29:03
was always in a hurry to see if something could be
2:29:05
done And then she came over to my apartment and said
2:29:07
she'd like to be rid of them before Christmas season so
2:29:10
she wouldn't have to buy any presents. Sienna.
2:29:14
Three fifty's are are gonna pay for itself
2:29:16
when I don't have to pay for gas
2:29:18
masks free. Basically it's a wash. So he
2:29:20
said that I'm taken hunting and once you
2:29:22
get out there, shoot him, get rid of
2:29:24
the body. He said my mother was upset
2:29:26
when I can do with the first time
2:29:28
and she said if I couldn't do it
2:29:30
for she'd find someone who could. And that's
2:29:32
when he found Paul and I'm all I
2:29:35
kind of shit south. Wow.
2:29:37
He said at first she was being vague about
2:29:39
it but then ck I came right down and
2:29:41
said she wanted him dead. Snow.
2:29:44
On the after all the attempts and see
2:29:46
and then she told them as she was
2:29:48
trying to kill him a drugs and that
2:29:50
didn't work. So you like Foxy Serious South
2:29:52
Suzanne. At this point she totally said
2:29:54
what? her mother dead and now she flipped it
2:29:57
and won't fuck and say shit an area or
2:29:59
yep. Did you change your
2:30:01
story? Saw the district attorney approach the
2:30:03
bench and asked to have her deemed
2:30:05
a turncoat witness of like and hostile
2:30:07
witness. Ah. Like. They did with
2:30:09
Kate okay once. yeah and then he can
2:30:12
do whatever he wants. Questioning a can be
2:30:14
was already can be an idea. Get her
2:30:16
to fuck and say what you said before
2:30:18
and he does. He fucking reps or a
2:30:21
parks and.them She finally confirmed the story that
2:30:23
she does. She couldn't keep it up under
2:30:25
a cross examination. See I see does it.
2:30:27
She testifies she sobbing and damn. Stay.
2:30:30
Said when they said asked her if she
2:30:32
had hired and conspired was it you that
2:30:34
did it because the mother's day maybe was
2:30:36
hearts and she said now. Now.
2:30:38
Now now I yeah, I'm is
2:30:40
by the way, Suzanne.
2:30:43
Suez going to testify and she says no,
2:30:45
no, I loved that boy. She's.
2:30:48
Understand for two and a half hours.
2:30:50
She said her never having normal problems
2:30:52
adjusting to the marriage, but there's no
2:30:54
major problems involving Chris. She said Chris
2:30:56
thought it was great the marriage He
2:30:58
called me mob even before I said
2:31:00
yes to add. Is looking
2:31:03
for a mom? hey what I had for
2:31:05
him on his mama's fucking that right? Because
2:31:07
his mom died a horrific li yes she
2:31:09
said I did say get rid of but
2:31:11
I meant send to military school or an
2:31:13
institution. As he said when she
2:31:15
found out about she said Jimmy said Chris was dead
2:31:17
and that he didn't do it and he was crying
2:31:19
and he was scared Me said Paul had gone bizarre
2:31:21
and kill them said was paul it was Paul it
2:31:24
was always Paul equity side of his dad he swore
2:31:26
to be had nothing to do with it meetings or
2:31:28
me jr and that I had to help them. And.
2:31:31
So is she said. I had been told by Jimmy Junior
2:31:33
not to say anything in that Paul told them that of
2:31:35
my seventh and Paul would just make it a package deal
2:31:37
in get rid of us off. She
2:31:40
said all I wanted him to do is
2:31:43
talk to Caress. Just talked to Caress about
2:31:45
spreading rumors about Suzanne. Was I guess is
2:31:47
the only thing that he did that was
2:31:49
for was a spread rumors about assessor. Other
2:31:52
than that he didn't tell on anybody, didn't
2:31:54
do anything like that. Look at the rumors
2:31:56
have been that's what I mean. See sixteen?
2:31:58
Well I owed Aus. The Team: During
2:32:01
closing arguments the prosecutor said Dennis
2:32:03
Moore said that sees the prime
2:32:05
mover in the killing of Press
2:32:07
Ops and she ordered hired and
2:32:09
approved of the killing of Press
2:32:11
Ops and. A. Defense attorney said
2:32:13
there's no evidence and damp the great
2:32:15
example kate her at all none. She
2:32:18
said the only evidence is common from
2:32:20
Jimmy Trump Junior whose unknown and admitted
2:32:22
liar and a murderer. Yet they
2:32:24
spray painted very different pictures. Ah, the the
2:32:26
prosecutor said Sue and Hobson lied to you
2:32:28
So and Hops and may now appear to
2:32:31
be remorseful. But there are two sides to
2:32:33
Sue Ann, Hops and and Chris new her
2:32:35
dark side all too well. Said.
2:32:37
You should find her guilty of all the
2:32:39
charges against Earth. And although she wasn't physically
2:32:41
presence the prep present, the presence of Suzanne
2:32:44
Hopson was very real at the grave sites.
2:32:46
Sue and Hobson was the prime mover. In
2:32:48
this case the state is not required to
2:32:50
probe prove a motor learned was. What?
2:32:52
The motive it's as their it's probably the
2:32:55
oldest motive in the world She and like
2:32:57
and oh and there's a lot of like
2:32:59
and plain old in like And the defense
2:33:02
said when Jimmy from came into that house
2:33:04
things went bad because Jimmy brought with of
2:33:06
his drugs city brought with them is predisposition
2:33:08
for thievery. Cb didn't go to schools to
2:33:11
be dropped out of school Cb drops out
2:33:13
of school and he drops assets to be
2:33:15
does cocaine. It's found in the house because
2:33:17
he says he's like on Seinfeld The guy
2:33:20
jimmy's jupiter dollars He that guy that Jimmy's
2:33:22
open he. Said that I'm yeah a
2:33:24
they go all all of that and
2:33:26
ah the verdict comes and and I
2:33:28
guess it's eight day trial. The.
2:33:31
Verdict: They juri comes back after two hours
2:33:33
and they want to listen to the tape
2:33:36
statements by Suzanne the daughter and and they
2:33:38
then risk recess for the night. And.
2:33:40
They come back again. And eight forty five and
2:33:42
four o'clock the next day they come back with
2:33:44
a verdict. Oh, And.
2:33:46
It is guilty of murder for hire
2:33:48
you and you. See. As
2:33:51
she left the courtroom, she said, oh, it's
2:33:53
awful, the house or response, don't. Miss
2:33:56
out. This. Is
2:33:58
from a newspaper while away. In sentencing because she's
2:34:00
out, she's still out on bond Julia to go to
2:34:03
jail for the one night and like a consent
2:34:05
like. Quote. For three hours Friday
2:34:07
nights when hops and sat in your kitchen
2:34:09
sipping cranberry juice and smoking one ballet or
2:34:11
cigarette after another. her husband Ed Hobson pulled
2:34:13
from a pull that his pipe and right
2:34:15
black coffee and from a cop she kept
2:34:17
false. I've never seen a picture of him
2:34:19
without a cigarette. By the weather's like twenty
2:34:21
pictures. I'm always get a cigarette as and.
2:34:25
He said between past and sets they
2:34:27
talked about the murder and everything out
2:34:29
like that She said it makes me
2:34:31
look stupid that I do not have
2:34:33
good answers for everything but people make
2:34:35
an irrational situations. Into an everyday occurrence. But
2:34:37
if they had been in my shoes they would have
2:34:39
done that. They would have all done the right things.
2:34:43
Okay what not murder a kid? Yeah yeah
2:34:45
yeah probably yeah. just bright of out till
2:34:47
he graduates from high school. I don't know
2:34:49
This is our add said the reason my
2:34:51
son got killed was because two kids run drugs.
2:34:53
He said that's the reason my wife had nothing
2:34:55
to do with it. He. Said
2:34:57
I've had to put myself on our this is
2:34:59
I Her again. I have to put myself on
2:35:01
so many guilt trips the last two years and
2:35:04
I'll be damned if I will take all the
2:35:06
responsibility for Jimmy's behavior. I will not. His father
2:35:08
had him to. Why
2:35:11
the specific? this? They are
2:35:13
delusional. And. Add said Jimmy wasn't even
2:35:15
that bad. Add said Chris was finding out about
2:35:17
sex. Jimmy was older and Chris would talk to Jimmy
2:35:20
about things he couldn't talk to me about. To
2:35:22
be was a problems but he was not a hassle
2:35:24
every day. He. Said they didn't understand
2:35:26
why this happened. And. They
2:35:28
said well, why did you tell anybody about this,
2:35:30
why did she tell you and he said fear.
2:35:33
Fear. As a small word she said,
2:35:35
I was terrified. Such. Fears
2:35:38
terrified is so.
2:35:41
This is very interesting way to sought to
2:35:43
her. As she said this is ruined her
2:35:45
daughter's life. And she said
2:35:47
i pray about that every night. She feels
2:35:49
like Jimmy betrayed us to get even with
2:35:51
me for abandoning And lady. That's. It
2:35:54
that's he's blaming everybody walking fast. it's
2:35:56
intense man. and I add sad that
2:35:58
I going to get Dennis Moore and
2:36:00
Election Day. that's not a good thing.
2:36:02
As I say that. He. Said if
2:36:04
I have to, I'll run against him
2:36:06
myself. He's not stepping on us for
2:36:09
his political games sects. He certainly the
2:36:11
right either kill him to run against
2:36:13
him resides at some of the primary
2:36:15
that guy and wow. That is
2:36:17
why I'll be. I'll primary as as he says
2:36:19
are. They said
2:36:21
that she aware awaits or prices are per prison
2:36:23
sentence and he said she's not going to have.
2:36:25
still. I have enough faith in God and man
2:36:28
with a going to give a fuck him or
2:36:30
a probation for this was. The
2:36:32
two of them and say or yes
2:36:34
men to each other and clear tent
2:36:36
saw how dependent it's called. Yes yes
2:36:39
this lugano gotta payments were ranked information
2:36:41
that they just keep feeding off each
2:36:43
other. It's so gross. See.
2:36:45
Said she couldn't run away if she wanted to
2:36:47
see. said we have nothing. Now we have add
2:36:50
salary and where can you go with seven cats
2:36:52
they would die. They pass at. Sentencing.
2:36:56
Comes around see his size you
2:36:58
ma'am may spa costs here Okay
2:37:00
see a sentenced to life in
2:37:02
prison for the murder charge with
2:37:04
the possibility of parole. There's no
2:37:06
hard fifty like they have later
2:37:08
on and then five to fifteen
2:37:10
years in prison for of the
2:37:12
conspiracy charge. So she
2:37:15
gets that. Yeah, his
2:37:17
arm. He added Rosalia,
2:37:20
Had. Said yeah I said I don't hate
2:37:22
or I still love her. I just don't
2:37:24
understand what's happening. And so that said at
2:37:26
large here's the thing at sea hated your
2:37:28
kid and see murdered him. That was what
2:37:30
it was would so hard to understand that.
2:37:33
So. She's in prison, had divorces or
2:37:35
yeah, and then two years later he remarries
2:37:37
Or. While she still and
2:37:40
present at Jets, that's a good start.
2:37:42
They have three bad a been married
2:37:44
three fucking times. Their time to step
2:37:46
in resides, two divorces, eighty five. She
2:37:48
has an appeal ear hair and it's
2:37:50
based on. Affidavits from
2:37:52
prisoners that talk about Paul
2:37:54
Stay said that Paul Sorrentino
2:37:56
said that Sudan had nothing
2:37:59
to do. The murder but zoo
2:38:01
at Paul Sorrentino. When they bring a
2:38:03
man he says he never met the
2:38:05
street people before, doesn't like and now
2:38:07
them all in South Asia. Well at
2:38:09
throw that fucking appeal out your shit
2:38:11
outta luck. Eighty five ad pleads guilty
2:38:13
to something. What? He. Pleads guilty
2:38:15
to a charge of illegally using is
2:38:17
dead son Social Security Benefits. Sees.
2:38:21
L. O Sa is accused
2:38:23
of a pleads guilty to falsely obtaining
2:38:25
seven thousand and thirty nine dollars and
2:38:27
benefits his son would have received after
2:38:30
his natural mother died in Nineteen Seventy
2:38:32
Six. If he faces a maximum prison
2:38:34
sentence of ten years and a ten
2:38:36
thousand dollar fine see you get ten
2:38:39
years forgotten both for seven years. Yeah.
2:38:41
Last summer the Regional office of the Us
2:38:43
Department of Health and Human Services. These human
2:38:45
Services found that he was that I press
2:38:48
while was continuing to receive monthly payments ranging
2:38:50
from one hundred Fifty Three to one hundred
2:38:52
eighty nine Dollars of the checks are being
2:38:54
directly deposited into a bank account which was
2:38:56
set up after the boy died. They found
2:38:58
out it was controlled by Ad and his
2:39:00
wife Sue Ann and payments are made. To.
2:39:03
The Account from September: Eighteen August Eighty
2:39:05
Four. Wow.
2:39:08
Eighty Nine so adds up for parole for
2:39:10
the first time that quick. Save.
2:39:12
Our shit people are mad. A lot of
2:39:15
people are saying it's a bad law that
2:39:17
that she's allowed to do this. They fixed
2:39:19
it said Sam i'm the prosecutor said were
2:39:22
opposed and I the. They. Said
2:39:24
one prosecutor said she hasn't served enough time
2:39:26
for the contract killing of a stepchild. It
2:39:28
doesn't get much worse than an extra. Denied.
2:39:32
But. She's up every three years, ninety
2:39:34
two up for parole. She repeatedly
2:39:36
refuses to admit any involvement in
2:39:39
the man you are doing out
2:39:41
as an. Ad keeps going
2:39:43
and pleading for her at all or hearings.
2:39:45
He said we just one will have a
2:39:47
chance to put our lives back together and
2:39:49
we can't do without your help. The.
2:39:51
At one point they talk about the victim's
2:39:53
family. He said I am the victim's family
2:39:55
it's just me his mom's dead that as
2:39:58
everybody only garments if everybody else is that
2:40:00
what the fuck had said He mentioned the
2:40:02
two books that were published will talk of
2:40:04
my about those. I'll mention them what they
2:40:07
are and damn he says out books have
2:40:09
been published in they all this shit letter
2:40:11
out everybody deserves a second chance. They.
2:40:15
Said yeah that's that's that. Everybody deserves
2:40:17
it. They go will not this time
2:40:19
your denied fucker to yeah I'm now
2:40:21
I'm At one point they said they
2:40:23
talked about that. The prosecutor said he
2:40:25
was sad and shocked. That.
2:40:28
He and the other prosecutor with the only
2:40:30
person to attend the hearing on Christmas behalf.
2:40:33
He said that kid was murdered by
2:40:35
his own family who's here for hemp
2:40:37
nobody. Oh by the way, Suzanne also
2:40:40
speaks and saying that she does not
2:40:42
want her mother fried. Yeah.
2:40:44
Because she was manipulated And yeah, Looks.
2:40:47
Like this is she made you have like a sit back.
2:40:49
Oh. Yeah there's all sorts of op eds
2:40:51
to with people here's and or at one
2:40:53
of the teachers. Have. I have crests
2:40:56
when across as all teachers wrote a fucking op
2:40:58
ed. Say. Mary Alice Daniels
2:41:00
saying are simple Justice however, demands
2:41:02
that the mastermind who plotted an
2:41:04
arranged his death not be freed
2:41:07
before the killers who merely merely
2:41:09
carried out the sentence and expectation
2:41:11
of payment. Never received. Ninety Seven.
2:41:13
Sovereignty those up for parole? He's
2:41:15
been passed over six times already.
2:41:17
Oh, and they deny him again.
2:41:20
And Ninety Seven. Seven.
2:41:22
The. Up by the wake of Jimmy Crumb
2:41:24
was passed over for parole earlier that year.
2:41:27
He is currently in a work release program
2:41:29
as of Ninety Ninety Eight. Nineteen
2:41:32
eighty eight, so add up for her sixth
2:41:34
perol. The. Prosecutor said she needs
2:41:36
to admit what she's done. If she does that
2:41:38
we won't rip opposed to release Rcs to say
2:41:40
as I did it and will save you some
2:41:43
letter out now in the letter out mouth she
2:41:45
won't fuck him There were no no and add
2:41:47
keep supporting earth as whites. Ads. Yeah
2:41:49
had said I are one one way or said
2:41:51
I told him the best thing to do was
2:41:53
wait and see if we could get her out
2:41:55
on parole. I just feel sorry for Add he's
2:41:57
a really nice guy. Tonight again. January.
2:42:00
Fourth, Ninety Ninety Nine. Jimmy As
2:42:03
Perrault. Juniors paroled. He ends
2:42:05
up moving to Texas and becomes an electrician
2:42:07
and does just fine for himself. really. Is.
2:42:10
Always away from mom. The.
2:42:12
Up on April twenty first two thousand
2:42:14
paused Or old as well. Or boy,
2:42:17
Dunno. What he did. but he went off
2:42:19
somewhere. I'm. Wow. So he
2:42:21
then I guess is they everybody calls
2:42:23
him fucking spineless. By the way, there's
2:42:25
like the people who hate add the
2:42:28
com, add spineless Hobson all over the
2:42:30
place. He.
2:42:32
Joined the Kansas City Chapter of
2:42:34
Parents Have Murdered children. A.
2:42:36
Support group where we normally would do
2:42:39
things like try to block her from
2:42:41
getting released from jail. The about his
2:42:43
active participation led to the position of
2:42:46
coal leader of the group. Which.
2:42:49
He now got dropped out of it because he
2:42:51
said he still loved his wife and monster To
2:42:53
get out of jail of a lot like that
2:42:56
when we can't have him and you make us
2:42:58
look bad, can't do it. So she's denied again.
2:43:00
In two thousand, two thousand and three, she's up
2:43:02
for parole. And damn yeah
2:43:04
she of they said all you have
2:43:06
to do is say you're fucking dead
2:43:08
It Seriousness of it. It's a serious
2:43:10
crime she's denied again. Two
2:43:13
Thousand and Six says up for parole
2:43:15
Spy the way. Since Two thousand and
2:43:17
Four, she's been disciplined for times. once
2:43:19
for work performance, once for unauthorized dealing
2:43:21
or trade, and why to were for
2:43:23
violating published orders on rules inside the
2:43:26
facility, so who knows, But they said
2:43:28
they would use that also to see
2:43:30
if she gets parole and not so
2:43:32
fast. Denied again for the seven for
2:43:34
the eighth time. Sky.
2:43:36
Be wary. Twenty fifth, Two thousand and
2:43:39
Eleven nice parole hearing hair. Eighty
2:43:42
four year olds. Ruth Brattle told Kansas for
2:43:44
All Board that she's opposed to having Sue
2:43:46
and living in her neighborhood now. The neighbors
2:43:48
are against or are simply Autos is if
2:43:50
you and or out she has to be
2:43:52
in a house somewhere that yes he said
2:43:54
the crime was confined zoo and hops into
2:43:57
prison was premeditated. Swiftly swiftly completed taking a
2:43:59
very young boys. That thirteen years of age
2:44:01
I feel we have a very respectable law abiding
2:44:03
neighborhood. and who knows what she's thinking. At this
2:44:05
moment in time she may want to rebel and
2:44:07
take a rebellion out on whomever she can I
2:44:09
don't want or near my house and eighty four
2:44:12
year old neighbor five the last person says in
2:44:14
a kill I would think. So.
2:44:16
Finally see it is approved. On
2:44:19
her nine Eleven or all, two
2:44:21
thousand and Eleven sees released and
2:44:24
moves right in with Ad and
2:44:26
her parents family house by it
2:44:28
and I think they're gone young
2:44:30
and dumb face. At the time
2:44:32
of her released several residents. Voice.
2:44:35
Much disapproval they were upset they are
2:44:37
all subset that add they were they
2:44:39
were moving into this home's here is
2:44:42
a comment on. On. An article online
2:44:44
about her release. It's from a user here that
2:44:46
says I have a couple of freaky facts: We
2:44:48
live in Prairie Village and Sue and of that
2:44:50
hops and live less than a block away from
2:44:52
us. She came to my house a few years
2:44:54
ago this is from Twenty Twenty by the way,
2:44:56
not on the door and wanted to chat. I
2:44:58
honestly don't remember about what. I just thought she
2:45:00
was a random weird out. Then she said as
2:45:03
she said she had grown up on my street.
2:45:05
I had no idea who she was in, I
2:45:07
never heard the story. My husband saw her driving
2:45:09
off as he came around to the front of
2:45:11
the house and recognized her. Of course he was.
2:45:13
Shocked she was out of jail. Even. We.
2:45:15
Looked her up and sure enough she lives
2:45:18
in the house says she pointed out to
2:45:20
me she talked a lot and was very
2:45:22
gossipy also. My husband went to the middle
2:45:24
school with Suzanne Hobson the daughter. A while
2:45:26
back one of his old classmates ran into
2:45:28
Suzanne the grocery store. He said it was
2:45:30
clear that she did not want to chat.
2:45:32
My. Husband said that the back that back then
2:45:35
she was in school and then suddenly she was
2:45:37
gone and never returned and then later everyone found
2:45:39
out why. She. Says I
2:45:41
knew This lady at my door was
2:45:43
nuts, but I could not have imagine
2:45:45
how evil she really has. I know
2:45:47
her anywhere. She doesn't look as old
2:45:49
as she as but she's of that
2:45:51
but has a very unattractive personalities at
2:45:53
is an idiot to live with her.
2:45:55
As I would say, I would say
2:45:57
they have visitors quite frequently. Wow. There's
2:46:00
also to books out there but there are
2:46:02
none of them are of there's no he
2:46:04
bought. There's no audio book. One is called
2:46:07
Crazy Maker from Nineteen Ninety Two Crazy Maker,
2:46:09
the shocking true story of murder and betrayal
2:46:11
and an American Family. And that is by
2:46:13
Thomas Odonil that you can get a hardcover
2:46:16
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2:46:18
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2:46:20
cents. And then the other one's called Family
2:46:22
Affairs. And that is
2:46:24
by Andy Hoffman. And. It's as
2:46:27
was. see the Perfect Life and mama Cold blooded
2:46:29
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2:46:31
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2:46:33
have analysts. That's. Also, I'm
2:46:35
five and six seventy five and
2:46:37
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2:46:40
all the sheds very ago that
2:46:42
everybody. See. Is handwritten. Oh,
2:46:45
she's out. She's out there as it out
2:46:47
that rate as you hear that oh you're
2:46:49
gonna see that. You'll see it is not
2:46:51
raise. That's sort of that was raised as
2:46:53
a fucking all not even close to her
2:46:55
fuck an age when you see her like
2:46:57
last mugshots. Yes, Sue anyone who already has
2:46:59
one he has added who was sucking down
2:47:01
butts all day long and they're both Elias,
2:47:03
he's crushing it. With the. Fuck him
2:47:05
my hat's off. To add their a good for you
2:47:07
add you're doing it. Wow. Very ago.
2:47:09
that is Edgerton. Like we said it's more Overland
2:47:11
Park but the fact that they brought they wouldn't
2:47:13
have killed him in the neighborhoods. I thought it
2:47:16
was interesting that a babe this is like a
2:47:18
dumping ground. We brought him out here to this
2:47:20
place to kill you. If you get a nice
2:47:22
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2:47:24
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2:47:27
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