0:04

Hey, we'll get to see you. Oh, Hey look, I brought a friend today.

0:07

His name's Sean. Hey. Hi.

0:09

Hey guys, Sean to Jason kind of looks like he's like on the east coast, like he's in Vermont or something.

0:14

Doesn't he? He Does with all the trees in his window.

0:16

It's a, You know, that is something somebody asked me the other day about what?

0:19

Why don't we have a video component to this?

0:21

I said, well, if we thought about that, but then we thought, well, maybe we might not book people quite as easily because they might think, oh, I'm going to be on cameras and yeah.

0:29

Yeah. They don't want to get all made up. Yeah, let's just do voices.

0:32

Smartlist you don't have to look pretty.

0:34

You just have to sound pretty Welcome

0:38

to the pretty, pretty tones.

1:00

I want, I want to ask you about something last night, Scottie and I were sitting on the couch and we're watching TV and, Huh,

1:05

second it, hang on a second.

1:07

Let me just write this down. You guys were watching on the couch watching TV last night.

1:11

It would've marked the date.

1:12

Oh, hang on.

1:14

I marked it yesterday and the day before that That's

1:18

our class time up there. He goes.

1:20

So, and, and we're sitting there watching and we're watching either, you know, Floribama shore or million dollar listing or project runway.

1:28

Do you guys feel yourselves getting smarter By

1:31

the minute? And I have to stop and ask a lot of questions.

1:35

Cause I'm very curious. He got so upset with me.

1:38

He's like, that would piss me off to turn to me.

1:40

And he's like, don't ask me to stop recording.

1:42

Like stop the TV again.

1:44

We are in the middle. He, he gets so angry.

1:46

10 minutes later, he stopped.

1:48

Sorry, hang on. I just need to, as people say, unpack this, I don't like using that term just because it's kind of fun.

1:54

Everybody uses it. It's the same with like a, you see what I did there?

1:58

Shut up. So you're going to Unpack

2:00

this. So here's here. Let me just say this.

2:01

So you're not just, you're not happening upon these Florida Bama shores or whatever it is, your DVR in these things, for Sure.

2:09

Yeah, For

2:11

sure. So, you know, we all have a mutual friend that goes one step further and we'll we'll pause.

2:17

Just sure that there's no paint left on that button, but she also has a laser Pointer

2:22

for the bachelor and bachelorette.

2:25

So once paused and mystery guest knows what the hell I'm talking about.

2:28

Once it's paused, the laser pointer goes up, things are circled.

2:32

Things are pointed out. I help assist with the comments or really mostly Questions

2:37

like that. I love That.

2:39

That's Watch TV. You watch TV more for the questions.

2:42

Is that your big, are you just in it for the questions?

2:47

Yeah. For sure. Yeah. No, I love that.

2:49

I love that laser pointer thing. Oh, I know who that is.

2:51

Okay. Okay. Got it. Yeah. Well has, has been a guest?

2:54

Yes. Yeah. Okay. Well, we'll let, we'll let listener figure that out.

2:58

But meanwhile, meanwhile gang, we got a queen on the show today.

3:03

She's

3:03

the

3:03

queen

3:03

of

3:03

movies,

3:03

the

3:03

queen

3:03

of

3:03

kindness,

3:03

professionalism,

3:03

real

3:03

estate,

3:03

hospitality

3:03

and

3:12

friendship.

3:12

Oh,

3:12

she

3:12

lived

3:12

her

3:12

first

3:12

12

3:12

years

3:12

in

3:12

Germany

3:12

and

3:12

Austria

3:12

spoke

3:12

only

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German

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ate

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only

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schnitzel

3:12

and

3:12

wore

3:12

only

3:22

braids. She then came to the states.

3:24

She made some movies, won some awards. A lot of them, she won an Oscar, a globe, couple sags, three critics, choice awards, three marshal, Ty Arnett and time named her most influential people named her most beautiful Louie and Laila call her mom.

3:38

We call her a great friend for saying yes to smart listen, listener.

3:41

You call her the one and only Sandra Bullock.

3:46

Oh, look at she's.

3:47

She held the flag up though. Are your arms killing?

3:50

You guys need to land the plane, Get

3:53

a C stand for you in there somewhere.

3:55

My boot was the C stand. They brought one in.

3:57

I didn't realize you guys would be in a holding pattern on over LA.

4:01

Well, you're in a mess of trouble with it all the different locals that you're not in.

4:05

Yeah, you can't hold Hollywood. Your own stamp, your own flag.

4:08

How's the junk going listener.

4:11

She's at a junket. She's she's Promoting

4:13

at a junket.

4:15

I'm at a junket. She's promoting the Hello.

4:19

Hi. Hi Jason.

4:21

I have, Amanda is my lifeline on the phone.

4:24

So should you give me any problems On

4:26

speaker right now? No, She's on my phone and she's sitting by standing by with her phone just in case, In

4:33

case you get some really probing question from us.

4:35

Incredible journalists.

4:36

Oh yeah.

4:38

Yep. We got it. Thank you.

4:39

We

4:39

got

4:39

the

4:42

quote. There it is. Hey, so how's the junk at going forward?

4:44

The unforgivable, which it looks incredible.

4:48

Yes. It's so far so good.

4:50

I mean, I haven't spoken to anyone in the middle of it.

4:53

Yeah. At the beginning of it. So I'm just have to relearn how to speak to adults and people that I don't know other than was living under my house and your wife and your children.

5:02

That's all I've seen it to. Yeah.

5:04

Well there's no adults here and you know how the junkets go.

5:06

There's very few adults there in a good way.

5:09

Wait, I want to ask you somebody right off the bat because this may be looks good and everything.

5:12

How do you go about choosing what seems to be always the right project?

5:18

That's not true, but It's so from this, You

5:22

know, like, I don't know, this came to me and when I read it, it reminded me of things that I learned when I was on my journey with my daughter to find my daughter and, and just is the more I researched, the more I learned about Obviously they ordered some food where I was.

5:51

It's not for me to go that way.

5:57

Jason. Guess what's on there.

5:59

It's a, sharkutery nothing made me happier than setting up the sharkutery when Jason would come.

6:06

Cause he loved his meats and I would roll them out.

6:08

And the Cheeses, meats and cheeses.

6:10

And Just

6:12

as we're talking to, as you're talking to Sandy, somebody behind her rolled out right behind her huge plate.

6:19

Yeah. Hotel catering cart. Yeah. Yeah.

6:21

No, nobody can put together sharkutery slab a would like, Right.

6:25

It's great. That's what you brought back from Germany and Austria did the meet, You

6:30

know, you're kind of right. Yeah. Cause you eat a lot of meats for breakfast.

6:33

A lot of sliced meats.

6:38

Well, those European breakfast buffets, and you've got like all this stuff for everybody.

6:41

And then for the, I don't know where you were, where there were buffets.

6:44

You've never been to a buffet.

6:45

You've never been there. We just had it at home.

6:48

We just had it at home. My aunt, I

6:50

like a European breakfast buffet. Come on.

6:52

Are you kidding?

6:54

I never had a buffet there. I just said, let me just Say

6:57

this. I li listen. I'm, I'm relatable to the people, to our listeners.

7:01

They get it. They get me.

7:03

I live a very relatable life.

7:05

Mm. Hey, before we leave Austria, do you remember anything from Austria or Germany?

7:10

That's fun. I didn't know that My

7:12

family is still there. My whole side of my, my, the cousins that I was raised with my aunt and uncle, the house that we were grew up in.

7:19

Do you still know how to speak German? Yeah.

7:21

Wait, wait.

7:23

How about, how about it's a pleasure to be with you today.

7:27

come

7:30

on. You Sydney scoot for me. It's does he hear midwifing?

7:34

I think it's the funniest language.

7:37

I love it. So I know there's nothing.

7:38

You can try to soften it.

7:43

Say something passionate, say something passionate in German.

7:48

Don't you just said Jason. She said she'd like to build a bunker under her house and lock you in it for two years.

7:54

Wow. A few words.

7:55

I said you are an asshole Now

7:58

while you were over there, mom was singing in the opera guys.

8:02

Kay. She was an opera singer. And did you, can you sing?

8:06

No, no, no.

8:07

Cause Amanda, whose father is a singer.

8:11

She can't sing.

8:14

So generation Laila. My daughter has pipes.

8:16

Like you would not. So it skipped me and landed on Laila, but my, both my parents were opera singers and then subsequently voice teachers.

8:23

And I have no we're really musical in the household.

8:26

We're just loved music, dance, all that kind of stuff.

8:29

But I just, did you Learn operas when you Were

8:31

younger? Did you? I was in them. I can hum.

8:33

Any opera I was in.

8:35

There's always a dirty child in every opera and I was usually the dirty child, the extra, it was a babysitting service for my mother.

8:43

The music from promises promises. Have you ever heard of this?

8:46

I

8:46

don't

8:46

know

8:46

if

8:46

it's

8:46

an

8:48

opera. Is that A good one? That's Sean's fastball.

8:51

I really feel like an opera that was born out of the, Not

8:56

even close. Now, when you were over there and you're following mom around as the dirty kid, did you have dreams of Hollywood and an acting or was that just something that happened once you came over on the, on this dealership?

9:10

It was always a Hambone, you know, I was always writing scripts and making the neighbors, you know, I think it was a way to meet guys.

9:16

I mean, we had many boys in the neighborhood, so I was like, I'll read a script and they'll have to be in it.

9:22

And they all, This is once you were in the states or still in, in Germany, This

9:26

is in the states in Germany there.

9:28

Well, the schools in Germany are incredibly artistic.

9:30

I went to a Waldorf school. So they have, the arts were just very prevalent, but I, I, I didn't at that point for breakfast, Meet buffet.

9:44

That's cool.

9:48

Yeah. We love the Shreddies now.

9:51

Okay. So then it was kind of a way to Interesting

9:55

for you, Jason, because it's funny that you're asking me questions about my life.

10:00

These are the things I can't ask you when we're over the share coterie board.

10:02

The

10:07

list. I could talk to you about the opera thing for three hours where you in Carmen by any chance.

10:12

But yeah, I could talk to you about yours and Scotty's little lip sinking that you guys need to pick up again, please.

10:17

Dear God, send it in a divorce, please.

10:20

I hope they don't. I call that the unforgivable when they Don't

10:24

know anything about they lip Sync

10:25

like that and he'd come up with a cow bell, he'd go back down in the little maracas.

10:29

And it just like, it was the sweetest.

10:31

It was so sweet and so special and funny and so well, And

10:37

we almost got you in one and then we couldn't figure it out.

10:41

I know, but I, I would have ruined it. I wouldn't have done what you guys, there's just a charm that you guys just, you were so in sync and I would have out of state.

10:48

You're very straight set. J we did, we did a bunch of like lips silly, stupid dumb lip sync videos.

10:53

And this was filmed.

10:55

This was filmed.

10:57

Yeah. Phone. Yeah.

10:59

I don't know how it's just stupid. It's stupid, but, but it kind of blew up and it got like hundreds and hundreds of millions.

11:05

It was crazy.

11:10

W when did you fit it in between TV viewing?

11:12

They would've had it at the Time while we were watching TV.

11:16

It was in the room with the pocket doors.

11:18

That's right.

11:21

All right. Wait, I want to keep this thing on the rail. So we're, so we're in Hollywood and we're, we're, we're approaching employment and dating and all of that stuff started in New

11:31

York. I was east coast. Okay.

11:33

All right. So wait, wait, wait, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.

11:35

Let's back up. When did you move from Germany to Germany?

11:37

To the U S We would go back and forth based on the opera seasons.

11:40

And we live between Salzburg is it said in English and then Nurnberg.

11:47

And

11:47

when

11:47

my

11:47

mum,

11:47

my

11:47

mother

11:47

would

11:47

traveled,

11:47

I

11:47

live

11:47

with

11:47

my

11:47

cousins

11:47

and

11:47

my

11:47

grandmother,

11:47

my

11:47

aunt,

11:47

and

11:47

go

11:47

to

11:47

German

11:47

school

11:54

there. And you lived in Salzburg for awhile is the most beautiful place I've ever lived.

11:59

It's so beautiful. Mozart.

12:01

Yeah, it wasn't Beethoven born there too.

12:03

I think perhaps More

12:07

touch.

12:09

I get them so confused. Yeah.

12:10

I like them both.

12:12

We're going to get lots of comments on this. Just like, Hey, I wish there was a way to find out, I guess.

12:17

Yes. And his house is amazing because his house is, you know, main through fare where they have a lot, like they have the shops built into the old buildings and you go in and the doorways are really tiny and low and it's beautiful.

12:27

It's really, really cool. It's a magical place.

12:30

All right. So then we're in New York and we're, and we're, we're starting to get we're waitressing and or there, w who, who were your, who were your contemporaries at that age?

12:39

Like, is there somebody that's still going right now that you kind of came up with actor wise or actress wise?

12:45

Well, everyone that was my contemporary was waiting tables with me.

12:48

So I had no contemporary in New York city.

12:50

I was a waitress. And I'm like, who did you battle anybody roles back then?

12:54

That you're still battling today. I was just, I had backstage, man.

12:57

I don't know if does that still around backstage magazine, you know, what have the ads.

13:01

And I would find what was appropriate.

13:03

I'd hit the ground during the day. And you know, there's a room full of pervs or something was legit.

13:08

And you either ran or you stayed for, you know, an audition.

13:11

And where were you?

13:13

Interesting canister bells on 19th and park.

13:16

It's not. And how did you like that?

13:18

How did you like that? Were you any good as a waitress or did you make?

13:22

I was, I started off in coat check and then I was upgraded to a hostessing, which I was terrible at because I had to know everyone and really give preference to the special people.

13:31

And I didn't know who was special. And then they moved me to the cocktail lounge where I, I ruled.

13:35

I was amazing. I was why, because I gave People

13:39

shit. Like I wasn't the cute waitress.

13:41

I was just the smart ass. So I knew what people liked that would have it ready for them.

13:46

They would bring their clients in. I would really work it for them.

13:49

And then I'd get a great tip because I really treated the clients, you know, in a special way.

13:53

And I, I could just say, Yeah,

13:56

they get all banged up. They want a saucy sassy waitress.

13:58

Well, we got it.

14:01

We got so many good quotes on this. Your publicist must be in a deep sweat right now.

14:05

Just off camera. How far Off

14:07

camera is your publicist with his headphones?

14:10

Twenty-five feet. But she's been with me for so long.

14:12

She's just numb to it. Now she's just as long as I've not killed or maimed anyone, she's like, she's fine.

14:19

All right. So now you're telling me you did not audition for, because I, I want, I want to know if, if there was an audition for this, I want to know how it went.

14:26

Yep. Speed. But not until I moved to LA, like I got off off-Broadway things and then somehow did NYU films, little films and cobbled together, a little reel and somehow got an agent.

14:38

And then did TV got some TV gigs?

14:40

And what'd you get on TV?

14:42

It was one show. I can't remember, but it was with major Healey.

14:46

Remember from I dream of Jeannie.

14:48

And he was a bet. Like, it was a weird, I don't even remember, but Was

14:51

major Healey Larry Hagman's friend or was he Roger?

14:55

Wasn't Roger. Remember his name?

14:57

I don't really, I thought he was great.

15:00

Then I moved to LA for a 12th for work, but it was also a boy Stop.

15:09

Right there will likes to hear about all the love affairs.

15:13

You can't just Pull this chair.

15:15

Don't pull your chair in.

15:17

I know. Let's do that. Let's dig into that stain. So there was a boy.

15:19

So you moved out to be here with you?

15:22

Well, just for summer, I was just going to be here for two months.

15:24

That's all the money I'd really earned on the last gig.

15:27

And then I just saw auditioned and then started getting little tiny things here and there.

15:32

And, and then it all fell apart.

15:36

Yeah. And then the career went right down the toilet.

15:37

All

15:40

right. So, but wait, so you were auditioning. So was there an audition for speed?

15:43

Yeah. Just picture you in a folding chair, pretending to be pressing on, on gas and then bring a fake steering wheel And

15:51

sweet Keanu Reeves, standing, like really trying to help me and do the scene.

15:56

And then somehow we landed on the floor in a heap, you know, from the scene and I was all schvitzing and flop sweaty.

16:03

And it was, Yeah.

16:05

Oh my gosh. I Was sweating so badly.

16:09

It's so weird. Isn't that so weird doing that?

16:13

Well, I had to, will, I had to do that with Amy, with polar, for a, we were going to do a movie.

16:18

We're going to do a movie together.

16:19

And I remember we, we auditioned together and I, I feel, I don't think we had to kiss in it, but I remember there was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

16:28

Really? Yeah. And we are in there in the room.

16:30

I just remember being super hot and sweaty.

16:32

Like, this is weird auditioning with a friend.

16:35

That's weird. Like having to audition in general, but intimately pretend like you are with a friend with your buddies Wife.

16:42

I can't get Well, like what have you, I'm sure you've had to have a romantic.

16:47

If you ever, have you ever had to have a friend play your husband or a boyfriend in a film?

16:53

Nope. Good.

16:54

Like if I had to fight with you, I, yes, I could do that.

16:57

Sandy, if you and Jason had to, you had to do this, like this is going to hurt my feelings.

17:01

I Think love story. Yeah.

17:03

I would ask Amanda to come in.

17:05

I'd put a wig on her and let you guys go at it.

17:08

And then I would be the part where I broke out it.

17:11

Cause I feel that it's wrong.

17:12

I would feel so wrong.

17:14

I couldn't, You got to sell it. It's not real.

17:16

It's not real. Are you worried that if you got in that thing and you guys had to have this love thing and kiss each other and look each other, are you worried?

17:23

You'd fall in love with Jason. Are you worried?

17:25

You'd fall in love with Jason. It's there's a high Risk.

17:28

It's tough.

17:30

It was a love scene between me and you.

17:31

That I would nail it.

17:33

I would, man. I would be so good.

17:37

Sean. I would be so good.

17:39

You would question all of your decisions in life Right

17:44

now. You're claiming that you're claiming that, that Sean would question everything after We

17:49

question everything, he wouldn't change it. I didn't say he would change it, but he didn't have a moment of like, this is actually really?

17:57

Yeah. What about, well now you've done both.

18:00

What about us? Yeah. Well, that's a given.

18:02

That's going to be what it is. That's going to be.

18:04

What is that? That is everything that nothing else was in that became, well, You

18:09

don't need to give her, give her the hot eyes.

18:11

Where are you doing? Hot eyes. You guys are so small.

18:14

Closer. Let me see the hot eyes. We'll just leave it for a second.

18:16

Yeah. Only. Just got to pretend. There's a fire in the room.

18:18

Yeah, there we go. A lot of smoke. Tons

18:20

of smoke.

18:23

Did you get something in your eyes because you look tired.

18:26

You know what? I got that today? Do I really Look

18:28

joking? I'm just picking up where I Know. I know.

18:31

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And now back to the show, I want to ask any Jay, I want to ask something about getting their show speed.

24:34

It's called the speed. It's the speed.

24:37

So obviously that's the movie, everybody references that that kind of gave you your start, is that?

24:43

Yeah, For sure. See, I feel like you were a big star before that.

24:46

I know, I know why you were sleeping was huge.

24:49

I auditioned for that. That was After I was after How

24:52

it was. Okay.

24:53

And so, so why you were making the speed, did you know like that classic question, did you know, like in, what were you like?

25:02

This is fucking awesome. People are going to go crazy Bus.

25:05

There was a bomb on the bus.

25:07

We were on the, you know, doing circles at the airport and an unused part of the airport.

25:14

Lex, did you guys Shoot that in LA? And I did.

25:15

And then we were on the 1 0 5 that strip right before lax that hadn't been opened yet.

25:20

And it was just, I mean, the Kiana was crazy famous.

25:23

And then there was me and the crew on the bus and we just kind of all hung out together.

25:27

It was, you know, we were the bomb on the bus movie.

25:30

It was Yonda Bonton. Who was a cinematographer.

25:33

You were not a star yet. So Kim had, it was a Keanu Reeves above the title, counter Reeves, Keanu

25:38

Reeves, and then a bus flying in the Panda Bus.

25:40

Like the bus was above the title two And

25:42

there was a stunt, there was a stunt driver in my dress and a wig lit behind the wheel of, yes, he was about two 20 in that little dressing, a little pain.

25:52

So

25:52

if

25:52

you

25:52

look

25:52

closely,

25:52

I

25:52

think

25:52

they've

25:52

somehow

25:52

inserted

25:52

me

25:52

in

25:52

some

25:52

places,

25:52

but

25:52

it's

25:52

just,

25:52

it

25:52

should

25:52

have

25:52

been

25:52

all

25:52

Keanu

25:52

and

25:52

all

25:52

bus

25:52

there's

25:52

no

25:52

Sandy

25:52

was

26:02

needed. Wow. Wow.

26:03

Now, all right. So that sounds like a fairly manageable, somewhat easy shoot in comparison to let's let's go all the way forward into, let's say gravity, where there's tons of green screen.

26:17

You got to pretend that you're seeing everything and it was just stunningly well done by you.

26:23

And then Everything was Martha Graham Was

26:26

that with now, which is, which is easier working with a bus that you can see and feel or green screen.

26:31

The hard part about the bus was I would be up in the front seat driving and there would be some guy in the back pretending to be someone else actually maneuvering the bus as they're plowing into things.

26:40

So I had absolutely no control over the bus.

26:43

So that was, that was, I've

26:45

done something like that before. Very scary before Jay.

26:49

Yeah. I had to like drive into oncoming traffic and they, they, they built a car where the guy up on the roof of the car, they had a cage right there.

26:57

Right. So he's actually driving and I'm down in the driver's seat and the camera's behind me in the backseat and it looks like I'm driving, but the guy on the roof is actually driving and we're driving 60 miles an hour into oncoming traffic on a freeway.

27:09

That's all timed out where I go left.

27:11

The other car goes right, but I'm not doing the driving.

27:13

So I'm, I have to just trust that this guy's going to be on it.

27:17

Otherwise I have a head-on collision 30 times, you know, I got to go back Little

27:23

house on the Prairie. I don't remember.

27:25

We Shaun. That's how you, and that's how you and Scotty, when you go to chin, chin twice, Do

27:34

you mean in the restaurant that has the chicken salad with the extra crunch?

27:39

Yeah, that's right. We eat it so often that Scotty framed it as a double chins, but wait, wait, wait, finish what you want to say about gravity because gravity is one of my favorite movies of all time and you were amazing in it and you won the Oscar and I presented you with the people's choice Award.

27:57

I didn't, I didn't, I Didn't

27:59

win the Oscar. Let me finish. He didn't win the Oscar for that, but you were nominated for it.

28:03

Yeah. Yeah. She went for blind side.

28:05

That's right. We're going to get to that.

28:07

But so, so, so we're also, we're on this space ship.

28:12

We were to junk it here and someone says, so when you went to space, how was it to feel them?

28:17

And we were Avanto. And I were like, when we weren't in space, you know what it was, it was a really profound time for me in that I was going through some things and I then was on this journey with the great Alfonso quite on where it was just Me

28:34

and Clooney banging on the window, trying to get in Clooney,

28:37

trying to get in clean. He's always trying to get him another quilt.

28:40

And

28:40

then

28:40

I,

28:40

then,

28:40

then

28:40

I

28:40

had

28:40

to

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cut

28:40

them

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loose

28:40

and

28:40

let

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them

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die

28:40

so

28:40

I

28:40

can

28:40

have

28:40

screen

28:46

time. It just was, it was amazing because everything that I did up to that point, like in my childhood with dance and music and counting and all the things musically that happened in physically that happened in my life, incorporating music, came into play in order to do this.

29:04

Cause I'd either be on a bicycle seat with one leg strap to it and the rest of my body.

29:07

So I could move in slow mode. You guys are watching me.

29:10

It's like Martha Graham. So I had to, they said, this point here is, this is so I use, this is George.

29:16

This is so you have 10 seconds to get from here to, there is this contraption moves.

29:20

So I had to move my body.

29:21

Like I was swimming in slow motion while my voice got to move normally.

29:26

So it was isolating.

29:27

It was beautiful.

29:30

It was making of it. It was incredible. It's

29:31

it's really emotional. Like, and you have, you have Chivo, who's an extraordinary cinematographer, just trying to figure out technology as we were shooting basically.

29:39

And we didn't know what it was.

29:41

We had two previews and they were not great because the effects weren't in the music, wasn't any sauce, you know, lines.

29:48

And it just felt, oh my God, I I'm coming out of, I thought I there's a rebirth for me.

29:54

I felt good life was on the uptick.

29:56

And then I saw the preview and I was like, oh my God, this is going to tank.

30:00

I just, I'm just going to go back home with my baby.

30:02

And we're just going to stay put. And How,

30:04

w how was the early stuff like, like, as it was approaching the release date, a listener, there's a thing called tracking where you can sort of like, get it low, sort of like a hint as to how the movie is going to perform based on how much the public is aware of.

30:17

It was that's all stuff good. W I

30:20

honestly don't know, because I didn't get the sense that we had.

30:24

I mean, I had an, the most profound experience of my career, just the personal life mixed with the kindest people being in England, just, you know, like it was just beautiful.

30:34

All things kind of helped healing.

30:36

And then not until we went to the Venice film festival, which was sort of a blur to begin with fittings in your hair and not have to get on a boat.

30:43

What I have to look over my shoulder, what I have to post.

30:45

I'm not good at any of that. I just want to implode and hide in a corner.

30:49

Jason, you know, I don't leave the house, Which is so surprising me, because it's so inquire.

30:52

You're incredibly charismatic and friendly and you know how to have it, but you also, but you know how to make people who you don't know and they don't use, you know how to make them feel safe.

31:06

Like you're in, you have incredible people skills.

31:09

That's with human beings. That's with people.

31:10

I don't want to camera point.

31:12

I don't want to be looked at that way in a nighttime.

31:16

Yeah. Don't tell her what she's good at.

31:18

She's doing, Let

31:20

her speak. No, please be You

31:22

connect with Sean at all.

31:23

Cause he feels like a camera.

31:26

Like he's like a robot right now.

31:29

It's just, he's just walking, joy, just walking.

31:34

I didn't know Sandy, other than our love for each other.

31:36

I didn't know how much we had in common with the music and the opera.

31:38

And .

31:43

Yeah. Could you guys harmonize right now?

31:46

No. Yeah. So that's all that you could know.

31:48

How, how do you do that? Somebody starts to know Now

31:51

you guys will have to finish this press tour. I can't, I can't my pores.

31:53

Can't open an ooze and just mess up the 12 hours of hair and makeup That

31:58

went into it. Make you sweat.

32:00

Yeah. Any kind of singing. See, you guys have radio voices.

32:03

I have a, not a voice for Radio

32:07

Now, Sandy, sadly, there's a classic question on interviewer probably would ask probably something like Sean would ask, but I'm going to ask a different way.

32:14

The common question would be, what have you done that you would like to do?

32:18

My question is what have you done?

32:20

Because you don't want to do it and that's never going to change.

32:23

You're not ever like for me, it would be Shakespeare.

32:25

I'd be way too scared to do that.

32:27

I couldn't do it. What about w so what about it for you?

32:30

Is it shit? Is it singing and dancing?

32:32

Singing, Dancing,

32:33

dancing, yes.

32:35

Singing. That's so crazy. It's such a big part of your life that you can, I'm

32:40

telling you. I can carry a tune. I can have any, I just remember my dad saying, you know, cause he was such an incredible teacher.

32:45

He would travel between New York and DC and he taught people at the met and he would fix voices and teach them from the diaphragm and how he'll voices.

32:52

And he says, you can have a five octave range.

32:55

It doesn't matter if you cannot express yourself through song, people can sound like a car backed over them and have more to say with their voice.

33:04

I can't. So your, your dad talked about music.

33:08

He was a musician, a very talented, like to talk about all that kind of meat.

33:11

I mean, imagine having a fi or just having a father who is around, but having one who also could talk about music, something that you're really interested in in Mother

33:19

and my mother had a voice like buddy of Carlos, my mother sounded like Maria Kala.

33:23

She had the most exquisite voice in the power behind her stillness.

33:27

And she was, she was exquisite.

33:29

It was a King's art.

33:31

It's a King's art. Sean,

33:32

are you crying right now on the Inside?

33:36

Sean. So Sandy, what? You don't know? Shawn's Shawn's father drove, drove away from him doing about one 30 in a domestic, the six back in the passenger seat, right?

33:51

Yeah. It was five years old. No, wait I, Sandy, I'm going to sing some, you're going to say you're going to, I'm going to sing something.

33:56

You're going to say the name of the opera. Ready? Okay, cool.

34:08

No, no, I don't know. I don't know the name, but I know Your

34:12

mom had to have saying that. Well, not like, but nice voice.

34:16

Really good. Really nice. Sean, do you do parties?

34:20

Here's the sad part. Yes.

34:23

Now here's another one in both of this goes for Sean and or Sandy who said this great quote.

34:28

You ready? I like his show to unfold and keep presenting itself surprising you Don't

34:35

You dare no, Sean. Wait, say it again.

34:38

I like to show to unfold and keep presenting itself.

34:40

Surprising you David Blaine, Tommy tune.

34:44

So look, We

34:47

always told my sister that was really her father and my mother had an affair with Tommy June.

34:52

So you didn't feel any pressure or obligation to, to try singing?

34:56

No. My dad and mom taught in the house at first, before they had their studios.

34:59

And my dad used to bring me down as a kid and they kid a high C and I would belt it out and go back upstairs.

35:03

But I think when your parents have such a rigorous artistry, like they did the practicing, every, it sounds came out of our basement in the neighborhood.

35:14

Kids thought we were insane. I w it was shame.

35:16

My mother was a Hottie and she had all these, and then she would sing opera and it was just shame and embarrassment for me.

35:23

I wanted to know she, my mother was absolutely gorgeous and she, I

35:29

was going into acting a bit of a make good on your part.

35:33

Or was there a passion from you going into Acting

35:35

was at comedy aspect.

35:37

Like I lived for Jerry Lewis.

35:39

I live for Mrs. Weakens.

35:41

You know, it's like, I lived for any comedy.

35:43

That was Here's

35:45

one of the things. So Jason said it.

35:47

And so he was saying, you know, you're, you're so you're so good with people.

35:51

You're so charismatic, which is all very true.

35:53

One of the things is, is that you connect with people with audiences.

35:57

No, it's true. You connect with audiences in this way because, and you're so good.

36:01

And you're so funny because you are very vulnerable on screen, whether you're doing a comedy or you're doing a drama and which is, which is rare, and you can do any, you're very rare that you can do so now, so as I say that, I'm thinking like, well, you've done so many great comedies.

36:17

You've done action. You've done drum. As you've won academy awards, you've won everything.

36:20

What is it in sort of the opposite of what Jason was asking?

36:24

Well, not what are you scared of?

36:26

What is that thing that's kind of out there for you, what's your a hundred foot wave?

36:31

What's the thing that you're chasing my kids.

36:34

Yeah. I just want to not be anywhere that takes me away from seeing they're growing.

36:42

I really had on this last thing that I did, I just said something in my head.

36:47

I was like, I feel like this is the last one for awhile.

36:51

Wow. And I was like, because all I want to do is just watch them become and it's happening right now.

36:57

And I'm sure the pandemic has something to do with that.

37:00

Everything is so shut down and fear-based, and I just literally, I've had the luck of the draw in that I've been at the right place at the right time.

37:09

I have a really strong work ethic that I know I have.

37:12

And the rest of it is luck and timing.

37:14

And I just don't want to be anywhere that I go.

37:18

I just wish I was with my kids wherever they need to go right now, not in a helicoptery thing, but I'm lucky in that I can pay my bills.

37:28

I've saved. I love my real estate.

37:30

I love architecture.

37:31

I've always planned to have the rug pulled out.

37:35

So I'm fine. I just want to watch them grow up.

37:39

And I don't, I feel the same way.

37:41

I don't every job now I look at, I look at the first thing I think is, is this worth taking, even if it's in town, is this job worth taking in terms of hours that I'm going to spend late nights, whatever it is, or missing early mornings, is it going to be worth it being away from my kids for this?

38:00

And the answer is always yes.

38:01

It's all.

38:04

I'm sure. I'm sure said you would say because Louis is now what?

38:08

Phil 11,

38:10

15. He's 11 going on 12th and December.

38:12

I know.

38:16

And Lyla is nine going on nine, eight.

38:20

Okay. Well, I'm super close on that for me.

38:23

That's real clear Bulls,

38:25

man.

38:28

Don't tell Amanda, I missed it now.

38:30

I'm sure. I'm sure you'll say that every age has, but what do you like most about this age that they're going through now?

38:39

Because it's like, for me, I feel like you can, you can find out because there's so much better with language and feelings, you can find out much more accurately what's going on inside of them than when they're obviously two or three years old.

38:50

Do you love that part of it or do you prefer the sort of the bottle and the pacifier and the No,

38:57

no, no, no, no, no. I mean, that to me was amazing.

38:59

I wish now I could go back and have a moment knowing now what I know with them in that stage.

39:07

I type, so it wasn't because I was in a state of panic.

39:09

I just, I felt like I had so much fear at that time that I missed out on the sweetness of That

39:16

doing the wrong thing as a mom.

39:19

Sure. And there was just a lot of stuff going on in my life at that time.

39:23

And that just, I was running and I was in protection mode and I just felt like the world was coming in and I just wanted to protect them.

39:30

And I felt guilt that it was coming in on them.

39:32

And now that I look back, I go, why were you so worried?

39:35

But it's, you know, 2020, but I love where they are now in the sense that Louise like a 78 year old philosopher in an 11 year old body who can talk to you philosophically and empathetically about life on a, on a junior level of high school, just put just, he says profoundly kind and evolved things yet.

39:59

He's obsessed with Naruto and, and, and Spiderman in spite of her, it's like, he's, he's appropriately ballad and, and jumping, but that's the we're passing jogger.

40:08

Okay. That was, that was pre pandemic. When you were at the house with a short coterie he's he's not moved done.

40:13

Jason's like an 11 year old intellect at a 78 year old body.

40:16

So it's kind of like, they got to spend some time with your son and kind of that.

40:21

So Sandra Sandy.

40:23

Yes. So I just a quick question, you mentioned that, you know, you said Jason, you know, that, that I, I, I don't like to go out and stuff like that, that I understand just from a human standpoint, nevermind being as you know, gigantically, famous public person, like you are A

40:39

woman, But

40:42

do you ever just miss going to the grocery store?

40:44

Just like, you know, I do. And I do that in places where I, it's not LA, like I love roaming up and down the aisles of a grocery store and buying massive amounts of things.

40:55

You go, I'm going to try this. I'm going to use this for this.

40:57

And then you have like 17 jarred items that you'll never touch, but one day, if I should need it, those capers are right there.

41:06

But you bet you're a homebody.

41:08

I'm all, I'm just a home. I love being outside.

41:11

I, I'm not a shut-in. I love being outside.

41:13

I love hiking. I love that.

41:15

You are great about going out. You call yourself somebody who's staying at home all the time, but you're great about going out for somebody as high profile as you, you keep telling Her

41:24

what she is. And she keeps Telling

41:26

me, I get the sense that let me finish.

41:28

I get the sense that you're great at going out.

41:31

I think about when we've gone out, what has been the catalyst to go out for us when we go out the kids every single time, But

41:40

the way that you go, you're not, you're not always looking over your shoulder, worried about you're comfortable being, you know, out and about.

41:48

Totally, totally, totally. Yes. I just I'm comfortable in normal settings.

41:52

I'm not comfortable when you're on a red carpet or when you are, when I can talk to people, I love it because I learned something.

41:59

I can be myself. It's my brain.

42:01

I'm comfortable with my brain, but it's a weird, I

42:04

was just showing you, looking over your shoulder, keep going as the pumper out to here yet.

42:08

Are they here yet?

42:08

Cause he'd called them.

42:12

I mean, that's what you do. You call them when you're at the post office, looking your worst.

42:16

You do that.

42:18

I was on vacation in Paris once. The only time I've ever been in Paris and I was staying at this fancy hotel and the rolling stones were staying at and at the same time and I, every day, there was a barricade of thousands of people across the street.

42:28

And just as I exited the hotel, I turned to my friends and I'd go, oh, so sorry.

42:33

And I'd open the door and I'd wave to everybody.

42:36

And one flash would go off.

42:39

It would just go blink.

42:41

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Let's listen to, well, oh, No, not much, man.

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47:58

This thing looks, can we say bad-ass on the radio?

48:01

You can say, if you Say it like in Luxembourg

48:03

and it looks like that, it Looks

48:05

better For

48:07

the wind. Now you didn't waste a lot of time in a wardrobe, fittings and hair and makeup tests.

48:12

Now, what is that? That was a relief. You know, she plays, she plays an, an ex-con guys she's coming out of jail and she doesn't, she doesn't care about the hair and the makeup and the clothes.

48:22

And don't give a shit, Bruce

48:25

later, she doesn't give a shit In

48:27

a world. This Christmas Cindy bullet doesn't give a shit.

48:36

Now you don't, you, you do care a lot or a little about the, about, about the fact that there's a, The

48:45

whole, The whole, glams the unfortunate, necessary glam side of, of the female side of this business, which I think is dog shit.

48:53

Of course you care when you're on a red carpet and you look like shit.

48:56

It's Like, you have to do that every day.

48:58

I could. I Couldn't. I couldn't.

49:00

I couldn't. I mean, that's the, what I loved about what I loved about.

49:04

That's what I loved about what I loved about what I loved to get it.

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I

49:10

loved

49:10

physical

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comedy. None of it is beautiful.

49:15

None of it, we required beauty.

49:18

It like it translates all my mother was German.

49:20

Had no sense of humor in one day.

49:23

And she's looking at you, how many does it require beauty, go ahead, shut.

49:27

But it doesn't, it doesn't require you to be insanely attractive.

49:30

And as long as you are able to make an ass of yourself, and my mother was the hardest person to make laugh.

49:36

And, but if I got injured, she thought it was hysterical German.

49:40

So I realized that physical comedy was one way of making everyone around me comfortable, because I automatically looked like the ass and they couldn't make me feel I can ask.

49:50

Cause I already did it for, It's not very surprising considering that the Germans, the people who invented a word for taking pleasure in other people's.

49:59

Yeah. So, But

50:01

this, but this film, but the, but the unforgivable December 10,000, yes.

50:07

December 10th on Netflix is not a comedy make no mistake.

50:12

Right. But you're saying like, So like a comedy you need not worry about all the glam in this because it's a bad-ass drama.

50:32

Yes. It is a, it is a, it's a family drama, but it's also mixed in sort of a murder.

50:36

I mean, look, I look at it.

50:39

I go, I'm I like to entertain.

50:41

So I don't want to find a subject matter that I feel I need to hit people over the head with, I want something that people go, what the fuck just happened here?

50:48

Why didn't she do that? What kind of person is this?

50:51

And within that is a story of just, you know, does this woman deserve forgiveness and redemption?

50:57

Some people say no. And then it's just, I just love the combination of the two.

51:02

I love that you go, okay, what does someone who's, who's eating themselves alive from the inside out look like, how do we get there?

51:10

Right. So you just want to entertain and make people feel something, you know, The

51:15

concept of like bird box at the LA was that the last Netflix film that you did, Wasn't

51:20

originally at Netflix. It was at universal where stupor was at that time.

51:24

And that's where it was going to be.

51:26

And then he moved, Scott said, let's drag it over here.

51:28

And he moved Enough flicks. And he said, what do you think?

51:30

And I went, I like trying new things.

51:32

I like, I like that. I mean, look, I, as a woman, I'm just surprised I'm still working and it's a nice place to be.

51:37

But I liked the idea of it working at Netflix because the boys got to do it.

51:45

The, the, the girls hadn't done it yet.

51:47

And You feel that thing, you just touched on it, you're a woman and you're happy to be still working.

51:51

Do you feel that thing of like there there's less and less roles for, for women?

51:57

No, I feel there's more and more and more because of streaming because of everything out there.

52:01

And look, I'd always plan for the rug to be pulled out much earlier on.

52:05

That's why my first love, which is restoration in real estate.

52:08

And all that was where my money went.

52:11

Every penny went into there to build that for the kids, if they ever want to take it over.

52:15

And I had something to fall back on that I loved just as much, if not more at times.

52:20

So I didn't want to be left without my creative juices being able to be used.

52:25

And, and I'm just surprised that I'm like, okay, this must be my last one.

52:28

Wait, If you were not applicable, if they kicked you out of the business tomorrow, would you be an interior designer, an architect or realtor Restore

52:38

A restorer Restore. And I like finding properties, finding out what the story is, getting it back to the vibe that I feel it wants to be in finding its use and purpose.

52:48

You know, all the places that I have are least are used in, it's just, you get to still have the thing that I loved and spent two and a half years getting to the place that it should be or should have been.

53:00

So it's not a redo. It's a restore Mostly

53:02

pretty much. Pretty much. Yeah.

53:04

I love that. That's pretty cool. And you'll rent these.

53:06

Yeah, I love it.

53:09

What's

53:09

the

53:09

percent

53:09

of

53:09

rent

53:09

in

53:09

a

53:12

lease. Well, it depends on what they are. Some of some are home.

53:14

Some are our buildings. Some are, are, you know, it's, it's, I just love the history of architecture that in our country, I think we're so quick to take away.

53:23

And I think the thing about Europe is you can walk around and you feel the history.

53:26

I think that's why I love new Orleans so much.

53:28

I just watched a documentary on PBS about Paul Williams.

53:32

Oh my gosh. I looked for a Paul Williams home for so long when it was just me and Lou.

53:36

And I said, how amazing would it be?

53:38

If the home that I find in LA, when I was moving from Austin would have been a Paul Williams home.

53:43

Like, you know, he used to draw the plans upside down because his clients who were white and he was not, he felt, he felt they wouldn't want to sit next to him.

53:51

So he learned how to draw His plan.

53:52

It's fascinating. It's incredible.

53:55

And then he went into songwriting and did some of the acting stuff.

53:58

And what about his cameo in Cannonball run with?

54:04

Sure. People got a lot of hats.

54:10

Did, did any of that strike a chord there?

54:12

Jason, as I'm singing, having my baby.

54:14

Oh, well that's, that's a, that's my father-in-law and he's, you know, I gotta get him on this show.

54:20

Goddammit. You haven't had him on the show.

54:22

Who's your father-in-law tell who say who it is.

54:24

His name is Paul Lanka and he's, he's a pillar of the music industry.

54:30

Well, I'm going to, I'm going to explain it all to you after, after this episode Canadian.

54:33

I know exactly.

54:36

I want to say, you know, when you, when you said you only do projects that, that keep you close to your family, which I totally admire and totally get, do they ever come visit and hang out with you and do they are, do they get excited about it?

54:48

Or they're like, this looks boring. He gets really excited about craft service, but then since COVID hit, there is no craft service.

54:54

So he's absolutely disinterested in anything that I have to do Laila on the other hand is going to no doubt, either be president of the United States or be in the entertainment industry.

55:05

She is, she's A force.

55:07

She's Shy. She's such a powerhouse.

55:09

So like, w I remember thinking my kids will never be in the business.

55:12

And then it was like, why not? Wait to, I told her, I said, wait until you're 18.

55:16

I want you to be baked. I don't want you to be a child.

55:18

But I said, after you turned 18, this is something that you really want then.

55:22

Absolutely. But I want you to be a kid.

55:24

I want you to have that.

55:27

I, I, we know what it looks like to be a kid on a set and it's hard.

55:31

It's hard. It's, it's, it's look at me.

55:34

I'm a, but this, this incredible maternal instinct that you have, it didn't come from having a shitty upbringing.

55:41

And so you want to make things right?

55:43

For your kids. It came because you had a great upbringing.

55:48

Yes. And you wanted to keep it going.

55:50

I, I always knew that I would be a mom.

55:53

I always knew. And my thing, my mother saw it and she kept me under lock and key and was like, you know, it's very true.

55:58

My mother was incredibly strict with me.

56:01

I was not allowed in a car or a car date or anything like that to be alone with anyone basically till I was 18 To

56:08

horny. Because she, you know, because I was a horn dog.

56:13

What about your sister? Not so much, not So

56:15

much. Cause had got away with murder. She did everything.

56:18

I didn't do. She snuck out. She did drugs.

56:20

She tried all that stuff. She was, but she was a brilliant student, but I, I was, I talked back.

56:25

I questioned authority. I was, I, my, my sister told me later on in life, she goes, you just didn't play the game.

56:30

Right? You what? You fought back. I should have just been the quiet studious girl that I was, but I wasn't that way.

56:36

So my mother thought I was just trouble and I didn't do anything.

56:39

I did not. Didn't even skip school.

56:40

I did nothing.

56:41

So I just came from a very sheltered life.

56:44

I knew that I wanted kids.

56:46

I loved kids, but I didn't want them any time.

56:49

Now. I like boys too much. I wanted to go through that Rolodex.

56:54

Let me ask you this. Do, do, do you, as far as the business goes and it relates to family, do you feel like you want to beat it to the punch and, and, and, and leave while you're ahead?

57:04

Or do you want to work until, you know, you can't work any longer?

57:07

No, Either

57:09

really? I don't. I always think I'm literally like the last one.

57:12

I said, this is probably my last one in a long time, just because that's where I am.

57:16

And

57:16

look,

57:16

that

57:16

could

57:16

be

57:16

a

57:16

flop

57:16

or

57:16

it

57:16

could

57:16

be

57:19

amazing. I think it's going to be great fun, but you don't know.

57:21

And I just, I don't know, because I, I sort of just kind of go with where my joy is at that time.

57:27

And I was like, what if I take, what if I just don't work for a while?

57:31

And I want to come back and they don't let me in you go, so they don't let you in.

57:34

So like, I don't want this business to be really, to define me or to make me anxious.

57:41

If it isn't there for me anymore.

57:43

That's what I'm striving for is to just Your

57:47

spot will always be saved for you because you're not, you're not, you're not, you're not, you're not a success because you're beautiful.

57:55

You're not a success because you're funny.

57:57

You're not as you're, you're a sass because of all of those things.

58:00

So in other words, you're not going to age out or time out or a talent out talent out of anything on top of all that, you're also producing a ton of stuff too.

58:10

And with all your set experience, you'd probably be an incredible director as well.

58:13

So I, I don't want to direct, I have no desire to direct.

58:16

No, no, no, no. I mean, I like, I just want to go home.

58:19

I just want to go home producing I'm there anyway.

58:22

Yeah. So the producing, I love because it's control.

58:24

It's like, if it's, I don't want anyone to sink my ship, but me, right.

58:29

I'm directing you are responsible.

58:32

I don't want to be responsible for anything other than that, which allows me to go home to my family.

58:41

Oh, that's smart. So then you're probably, you're probably one take two takes.

58:44

Sandy's got it.

58:47

Well, I'd like to come out of the gate. Well prepared.

58:50

Cause I don't want to waste time.

58:52

And you know, when the clock is ticking, so I mean, that's where once you learn what production is about, act, most actors don't, then you go, oh, that's money.

58:59

Oh, that's time. You know, you come prepared.

59:01

I have a really strong work ethic probably cause I'm German.

59:03

I know how lucky I am.

59:06

I don't want to waste people's time. I want to give myself every opportunity when the, within the allotted time, you know, and not have someone go, well, we couldn't get it.

59:13

Let's move on. And I'm like, I panic.

59:14

Are you a first person with drama?

59:18

Yes. Drama. Yes.

59:21

Waitress. Save it for the close-up with drama.

59:23

I've learned to do, Because once I realized I was like, wait a minute, what do you mean?

59:26

We're in a wide, Right?

59:28

And for Tracy in Wisconsin, that means that usually when you shoot a scene, you'll shoot the scene into wider and then they'll move into you and you'll get pieces where you'll cover each actor and they call that coverage.

59:38

So when you're in, hang on, I'm just explaining for your sister, Shawn, I'm talking to your sister.

59:42

And, and so if, if, if Sandy Bullock is doing a very emotional dramatic scene, Tracy, you she's got to emote.

59:53

Okay. Hang on, hang on.

59:56

Sorry. Hang on. Tracy's also narcoleptic.

59:59

She's getting some milk for Tracy right here.

1:00:01

She's right here.

1:00:02

Getting milk.

1:00:04

Okay. So now she's back. And so she has to keep that in order to give that performance, she wants to give, she wants to give it in the closeup, which is the size that they're going to probably got to in that a moment in that moment.

1:00:16

So Sandy, I have a question when you're in England and you're shooting and you don't nail it on the first take, do you go Bullock's Bullock's

1:00:23

crikey?

1:00:26

No. He was doing your last name. He was trying to sneak it, sneak In.

1:00:30

See, most of the year, Sandy will we'll let Them

1:00:36

Your favorite. My favorite moment that he did, he played a little shtick for women in film years ago, my sister and I were there and he's at the piano.

1:00:44

And he was the only one that called it.

1:00:46

What it was he goes with.

1:00:48

Yeah. Right? No, but it was, it was women and film, partnerships and entertainment was the full thing.

1:00:53

So women in film, partnerships and entertainment, and I wrote a song to Coldplay and I sang it using different words.

1:00:59

And I called it with of PI.

1:01:01

It was brilliant. That's right. With a pie.

1:01:02

See, he did something for the ladies.

1:01:05

That's right. I always do stuff for the lady. I Love the ladies.

1:01:07

He's the song and dance, man.

1:01:10

We we've kept Sandy book way too long. She's way too important.

1:01:14

I've I've made my way through a pack of the Oh

1:01:19

candy. Because when you know you're in a press, junket, caffeine, green tea and Whoppers, Sandy,

1:01:25

we love you. Thank you so much for saying yes and squeezing us in on.

1:01:29

I love it. You know what thank you for I'm so proud of you and your, your wife is amazing.

1:01:34

Amanda, Amanda, Amanda.

1:01:35

She birthed him two of the most extraordinary young women.

1:01:38

I second I've had the pleasure of watching grow up.

1:01:42

These kids are yours. They're Incredible. I'm going to probably see your daughter tomorrow.

1:01:45

Tell her my house.

1:01:46

You know, she comes to my house for like play dates.

1:01:49

Right? She's in love with Layla Now.

1:01:51

Well they're, they're, they're cut from the same cloth.

1:01:53

Yeah. And we're in love with you. Thank you for saying yes.

1:01:55

Have a great rest of your day.

1:01:56

Thank you. Thank you. All right.

1:01:58

Get your flag back up in front of the cameras.

1:02:00

Slam the laptop close or whatever.

1:02:03

Let your freak flag fly for sure.

1:02:05

Ready? It was so good to see you guys and I'll feed us in

1:02:16

Bye. And she's she's she's sunlight.

1:02:19

She's she's a sunlight, right?

1:02:22

That's a movie star, right? That's a movie star.

1:02:25

Yeah. And also, also simultaneously a very real grounded, cool person.

1:02:31

That's why she's a star. You don't wish it.

1:02:33

We, we book up, we book a few of those, I think because the three of us are allergic to the other, but we should book the other.

1:02:40

We should, we should get, we should get a real sob in here.

1:02:43

We should. Yeah.

1:02:45

She's great. I didn't know all that stuff about her background and yeah.

1:02:50

Ya. Did you know that before Jason, Before

1:02:52

you were Wikipedia? No, no.

1:02:54

Or the opera singer stuff or any, any of that?

1:02:57

Oh cool. Yeah.

1:02:58

Or the, or the ages of her kids.

1:03:04

Listen, I don't, I just, I see the eyes, the eyes and the heart.

1:03:07

I just see Eisenhardt, Eisenhardt, Eisenhardt.

1:03:11

That's my middle name. Title.

1:03:14

Yeah. Yeah. George Eisenhardt.

1:03:15

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Hey, we'll get to see you. Oh, Hey look, I brought a friend today. His name's Sean. Hey. Hi. Hey guys, Sean to Jason kind of looks like he's like on the east coast, like he's in Vermont or something. Doesn't he? He Does with all the trees in his window. It's a, You know, that is something somebody asked me the other day about what? Why don't we have a video component to this? I said, well, if we thought about that, but then we thought, well, maybe we might not book people quite as easily because they might think, oh, I'm going to be on cameras and yeah. Yeah. They don't want to get all made up. Yeah, let's just do voices. Smartlist you don't have to look pretty. You just have to sound pretty Welcome to the pretty, pretty tones. I want, I want to ask you about something last night, Scottie and I were sitting on the couch and we're watching TV and, Huh, second it, hang on a second. Let me just write this down. You guys were watching on the couch watching TV last night. It would've marked the date. Oh, hang on. I marked it yesterday and the day before that That's our class time up there. He goes. So, and, and we're sitting there watching and we're watching either, you know, Floribama shore or million dollar listing or project runway. Do you guys feel yourselves getting smarter By the minute? And I have to stop and ask a lot of questions. Cause I'm very curious. He got so upset with me. He's like, that would piss me off to turn to me. And he's like, don't ask me to stop recording. Like stop the TV again. We are in the middle. He, he gets so angry. 10 minutes later, he stopped. Sorry, hang on. I just need to, as people say, unpack this, I don't like using that term just because it's kind of fun. Everybody uses it. It's the same with like a, you see what I did there? Shut up. So you're going to Unpack this. So here's here. Let me just say this. So you're not just, you're not happening upon these Florida Bama shores or whatever it is, your DVR in these things, for Sure. Yeah, For sure. So, you know, we all have a mutual friend that goes one step further and we'll we'll pause. Just sure that there's no paint left on that button, but she also has a laser Pointer for the bachelor and bachelorette. So once paused and mystery guest knows what the hell I'm talking about. Once it's paused, the laser pointer goes up, things are circled. Things are pointed out. I help assist with the comments or really mostly Questions like that. I love That. That's Watch TV. You watch TV more for the questions. Is that your big, are you just in it for the questions? Yeah. For sure. Yeah. No, I love that. I love that laser pointer thing. Oh, I know who that is. Okay. Okay. Got it. Yeah. Well has, has been a guest? Yes. Yeah. Okay. Well, we'll let, we'll let listener figure that out. But meanwhile, meanwhile gang, we got a queen on the show today. She's the queen of movies, the queen of kindness, professionalism, real estate, hospitality and friendship. Oh, she lived her first 12 years in Germany and Austria spoke only German ate only schnitzel and wore only braids. She then came to the states. She made some movies, won some awards. A lot of them, she won an Oscar, a globe, couple sags, three critics, choice awards, three marshal, Ty Arnett and time named her most influential people named her most beautiful Louie and Laila call her mom. We call her a great friend for saying yes to smart listen, listener. You call her the one and only Sandra Bullock. Oh, look at she's. She held the flag up though. Are your arms killing? You guys need to land the plane, Get a C stand for you in there somewhere. My boot was the C stand. They brought one in. I didn't realize you guys would be in a holding pattern on over LA. Well, you're in a mess of trouble with it all the different locals that you're not in. Yeah, you can't hold Hollywood. Your own stamp, your own flag. How's the junk going listener. She's at a junket. She's she's Promoting at a junket. I'm at a junket. She's promoting the Hello. Hi. Hi Jason. I have, Amanda is my lifeline on the phone. So should you give me any problems On speaker right now? No, She's on my phone and she's sitting by standing by with her phone just in case, In case you get some really probing question from us. Incredible journalists. Oh yeah. Yep. We got it. Thank you. We got the quote. There it is. Hey, so how's the junk at going forward? The unforgivable, which it looks incredible. Yes. It's so far so good. I mean, I haven't spoken to anyone in the middle of it. Yeah. At the beginning of it. So I'm just have to relearn how to speak to adults and people that I don't know other than was living under my house and your wife and your children. That's all I've seen it to. Yeah. Well there's no adults here and you know how the junkets go. There's very few adults there in a good way. Wait, I want to ask you somebody right off the bat because this may be looks good and everything. How do you go about choosing what seems to be always the right project? That's not true, but It's so from this, You know, like, I don't know, this came to me and when I read it, it reminded me of things that I learned when I was on my journey with my daughter to find my daughter and, and just is the more I researched, the more I learned about Obviously they ordered some food where I was. It's not for me to go that way. Jason. Guess what's on there. It's a, sharkutery nothing made me happier than setting up the sharkutery when Jason would come. Cause he loved his meats and I would roll them out. And the Cheeses, meats and cheeses. And Just as we're talking to, as you're talking to Sandy, somebody behind her rolled out right behind her huge plate. Yeah. Hotel catering cart. Yeah. Yeah. No, nobody can put together sharkutery slab a would like, Right. It's great. That's what you brought back from Germany and Austria did the meet, You know, you're kind of right. Yeah. Cause you eat a lot of meats for breakfast. A lot of sliced meats. Well, those European breakfast buffets, and you've got like all this stuff for everybody. And then for the, I don't know where you were, where there were buffets. You've never been to a buffet. You've never been there. We just had it at home. We just had it at home. My aunt, I like a European breakfast buffet. Come on. Are you kidding? I never had a buffet there. I just said, let me just Say this. I li listen. I'm, I'm relatable to the people, to our listeners. They get it. They get me. I live a very relatable life. Mm. Hey, before we leave Austria, do you remember anything from Austria or Germany? That's fun. I didn't know that My family is still there. My whole side of my, my, the cousins that I was raised with my aunt and uncle, the house that we were grew up in. Do you still know how to speak German? Yeah. Wait, wait. How about, how about it's a pleasure to be with you today. on. You Sydney scoot for midwifing? I think it's the funniest language. I love it. So I know there's nothing. You can try to soften it. Say something passionate, say something passionate in German. Don't you just said Jason. She said she'd like to build a bunker under her house and lock you in it for two years. Wow. A few words. I said you are an asshole Now while you were over there, mom was singing in the opera guys. Kay. She was an opera singer. And did you, can you sing? No, no, no. Cause Amanda, whose father is a singer. She can't sing. So generation Laila. My daughter has pipes. Like you would not. So it skipped me and landed on Laila, but my, both my parents were opera singers and then subsequently voice teachers. And I have no we're really musical in the household. We're just loved music, dance, all that kind of stuff. But I just, did you Learn operas when you Were younger? Did you? I was in them. I can hum. Any opera I was in. There's always a dirty child in every opera and I was usually the dirty child, the extra, it was a babysitting service for my mother. The music from promises promises. Have you ever heard of this? I don't know if it's an opera. Is that A good one? That's Sean's fastball. I really feel like an opera that was born out of the, Not even close. Now, when you were over there and you're following mom around as the dirty kid, did you have dreams of Hollywood and an acting or was that just something that happened once you came over on the, on this dealership? It was always a Hambone, you know, I was always writing scripts and making the neighbors, you know, I think it was a way to meet guys. I mean, we had many boys in the neighborhood, so I was like, I'll read a script and they'll have to be in it. And they all, This is once you were in the states or still in, in Germany, This is in the states in Germany there. Well, the schools in Germany are incredibly artistic. I went to a Waldorf school. So they have, the arts were just very prevalent, but I, I, I didn't at that point for breakfast, Meet buffet. That's cool. Yeah. We love the Shreddies now. Okay. So then it was kind of a way to Interesting for you, Jason, because it's funny that you're asking me questions about my life. These are the things I can't ask you when we're over the share coterie board. The list. I could talk to you about the opera thing for three hours where you in Carmen by any chance. But yeah, I could talk to you about yours and Scotty's little lip sinking that you guys need to pick up again, please. Dear God, send it in a divorce, please. I hope they don't. I call that the unforgivable when they Don't know anything about they lip Sync like that and he'd come up with a cow bell, he'd go back down in the little maracas. And it just like, it was the sweetest. It was so sweet and so special and funny and so well, And we almost got you in one and then we couldn't figure it out. I know, but I, I would have ruined it. I wouldn't have done what you guys, there's just a charm that you guys just, you were so in sync and I would have out of state. You're very straight set. J we did, we did a bunch of like lips silly, stupid dumb lip sync videos. And this was filmed. This was filmed. Yeah. Phone. Yeah. I don't know how it's just stupid. It's stupid, but, but it kind of blew up and it got like hundreds and hundreds of millions. It was crazy. W when did you fit it in between TV viewing? They would've had it at the Time while we were watching TV. It was in the room with the pocket doors. That's right. All right. Wait, I want to keep this thing on the rail. So we're, so we're in Hollywood and we're, we're, we're approaching employment and dating and all of that stuff started in New York. I was east coast. Okay. All right. So wait, wait, wait, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Let's back up. When did you move from Germany to Germany? To the U S We would go back and forth based on the opera seasons. And we live between Salzburg is it said in English and then Nurnberg. And when my mum, my mother would traveled, I live with my cousins and my grandmother, my aunt, and go to German school there. And you lived in Salzburg for awhile is the most beautiful place I've ever lived. It's so beautiful. Mozart. Yeah, it wasn't Beethoven born there too. I think perhaps More touch. I get them so confused. Yeah. I like them both. We're going to get lots of comments on this. Just like, Hey, I wish there was a way to find out, I guess. Yes. And his house is amazing because his house is, you know, main through fare where they have a lot, like they have the shops built into the old buildings and you go in and the doorways are really tiny and low and it's beautiful. It's really, really cool. It's a magical place. All right. So then we're in New York and we're, and we're, we're starting to get we're waitressing and or there, w who, who were your, who were your contemporaries at that age? Like, is there somebody that's still going right now that you kind of came up with actor wise or actress wise? Well, everyone that was my contemporary was waiting tables with me. So I had no contemporary in New York city. I was a waitress. And I'm like, who did you battle anybody roles back then? That you're still battling today. I was just, I had backstage, man. I don't know if does that still around backstage magazine, you know, what have the ads. And I would find what was appropriate. I'd hit the ground during the day. And you know, there's a room full of pervs or something was legit. And you either ran or you stayed for, you know, an audition. And where were you? Interesting canister bells on 19th and park. It's not. And how did you like that? How did you like that? Were you any good as a waitress or did you make? I was, I started off in coat check and then I was upgraded to a hostessing, which I was terrible at because I had to know everyone and really give preference to the special people. And I didn't know who was special. And then they moved me to the cocktail lounge where I, I ruled. I was amazing. I was why, because I gave People shit. Like I wasn't the cute waitress. I was just the smart ass. So I knew what people liked that would have it ready for them. They would bring their clients in. I would really work it for them. And then I'd get a great tip because I really treated the clients, you know, in a special way. And I, I could just say, Yeah, they get all banged up. They want a saucy sassy waitress. Well, we got it. We got so many good quotes on this. Your publicist must be in a deep sweat right now. Just off camera. How far Off camera is your publicist with his headphones? Twenty-five feet. But she's been with me for so long. She's just numb to it. Now she's just as long as I've not killed or maimed anyone, she's like, she's fine. All right. So now you're telling me you did not audition for, because I, I want, I want to know if, if there was an audition for this, I want to know how it went. Yep. Speed. But not until I moved to LA, like I got off off-Broadway things and then somehow did NYU films, little films and cobbled together, a little reel and somehow got an agent. And then did TV got some TV gigs? And what'd you get on TV? It was one show. I can't remember, but it was with major Healey. Remember from I dream of Jeannie. And he was a bet. Like, it was a weird, I don't even remember, but Was major Healey Larry Hagman's friend or was he Roger? Wasn't Roger. Remember his name? I don't really, I thought he was great. Then I moved to LA for a 12th for work, but it was also a boy Stop. Right there will likes to hear about all the love affairs. You can't just Pull this chair. Don't pull your chair in. I know. Let's do that. Let's dig into that stain. So there was a boy. So you moved out to be here with you? Well, just for summer, I was just going to be here for two months. That's all the money I'd really earned on the last gig. And then I just saw auditioned and then started getting little tiny things here and there. And, and then it all fell apart. Yeah. And then the career went right down the toilet. All right. So, but wait, so you were auditioning. So was there an audition for speed? Yeah. Just picture you in a folding chair, pretending to be pressing on, on gas and then bring a fake steering wheel And sweet Keanu Reeves, standing, like really trying to help me and do the scene. And then somehow we landed on the floor in a heap, you know, from the scene and I was all schvitzing and flop sweaty. And it was, Yeah. Oh my gosh. I Was sweating so badly. It's so weird. Isn't that so weird doing that? Well, I had to, will, I had to do that with Amy, with polar, for a, we were going to do a movie. We're going to do a movie together. And I remember we, we auditioned together and I, I feel, I don't think we had to kiss in it, but I remember there was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Really? Yeah. And we are in there in the room. I just remember being super hot and sweaty. Like, this is weird auditioning with a friend. That's weird. Like having to audition in general, but intimately pretend like you are with a friend with your buddies Wife. I can't get Well, like what have you, I'm sure you've had to have a romantic. If you ever, have you ever had to have a friend play your husband or a boyfriend in a film? Nope. Good. Like if I had to fight with you, I, yes, I could do that. Sandy, if you and Jason had to, you had to do this, like this is going to hurt my feelings. I Think love story. Yeah. I would ask Amanda to come in. I'd put a wig on her and let you guys go at it. And then I would be the part where I broke out it. Cause I feel that it's wrong. I would feel so wrong. I couldn't, You got to sell it. It's not real. It's not real. Are you worried that if you got in that thing and you guys had to have this love thing and kiss each other and look each other, are you worried? You'd fall in love with Jason. Are you worried? You'd fall in love with Jason. It's there's a high Risk. It's tough. It was a love scene between me and you. That I would nail it. I would, man. I would be so good. Sean. I would be so good. You would question all of your decisions in life Right now. You're claiming that you're claiming that, that Sean would question everything after We question everything, he wouldn't change it. I didn't say he would change it, but he didn't have a moment of like, this is actually really? Yeah. What about, well now you've done both. What about us? Yeah. Well, that's a given. That's going to be what it is. That's going to be. What is that? That is everything that nothing else was in that became, well, You don't need to give her, give her the hot eyes. 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And so, so why you were making the speed, did you know like that classic question, did you know, like in, what were you like? This is fucking awesome. People are going to go crazy Bus. There was a bomb on the bus. We were on the, you know, doing circles at the airport and an unused part of the airport. Lex, did you guys Shoot that in LA? And I did. And then we were on the 1 0 5 that strip right before lax that hadn't been opened yet. And it was just, I mean, the Kiana was crazy famous. And then there was me and the crew on the bus and we just kind of all hung out together. It was, you know, we were the bomb on the bus movie. It was Yonda Bonton. Who was a cinematographer. You were not a star yet. So Kim had, it was a Keanu Reeves above the title, counter Reeves, Keanu Reeves, and then a bus flying in the Panda Bus. Like the bus was above the title two And there was a stunt, there was a stunt driver in my dress and a wig lit behind the wheel of, yes, he was about two 20 in that little dressing, a little pain. So if you look closely, I think they've somehow inserted me in some places, but it's just, it should have been all Keanu and all bus there's no Sandy was needed. Wow. Wow. Now, all right. So that sounds like a fairly manageable, somewhat easy shoot in comparison to let's let's go all the way forward into, let's say gravity, where there's tons of green screen. You got to pretend that you're seeing everything and it was just stunningly well done by you. And then Everything was Martha Graham Was that with now, which is, which is easier working with a bus that you can see and feel or green screen. The hard part about the bus was I would be up in the front seat driving and there would be some guy in the back pretending to be someone else actually maneuvering the bus as they're plowing into things. So I had absolutely no control over the bus. So that was, that was, I've done something like that before. Very scary before Jay. Yeah. I had to like drive into oncoming traffic and they, they, they built a car where the guy up on the roof of the car, they had a cage right there. Right. So he's actually driving and I'm down in the driver's seat and the camera's behind me in the backseat and it looks like I'm driving, but the guy on the roof is actually driving and we're driving 60 miles an hour into oncoming traffic on a freeway. That's all timed out where I go left. The other car goes right, but I'm not doing the driving. So I'm, I have to just trust that this guy's going to be on it. Otherwise I have a head-on collision 30 times, you know, I got to go back Little house on the Prairie. I don't remember. We Shaun. That's how you, and that's how you and Scotty, when you go to chin, chin twice, Do you mean in the restaurant that has the chicken salad with the extra crunch? Yeah, that's right. We eat it so often that Scotty framed it as a double chins, but wait, wait, wait, finish what you want to say about gravity because gravity is one of my favorite movies of all time and you were amazing in it and you won the Oscar and I presented you with the people's choice Award. I didn't, I didn't, I Didn't win the Oscar. Let me finish. He didn't win the Oscar for that, but you were nominated for it. Yeah. Yeah. She went for blind side. That's right. We're going to get to that. But so, so, so we're also, we're on this space ship. We were to junk it here and someone says, so when you went to space, how was it to feel them? And we were Avanto. And I were like, when we weren't in space, you know what it was, it was a really profound time for me in that I was going through some things and I then was on this journey with the great Alfonso quite on where it was just Me and Clooney banging on the window, trying to get in Clooney, trying to get in clean. He's always trying to get him another quilt. And then I, then, then I had to cut them loose and let them die so I can have screen time. It just was, it was amazing because everything that I did up to that point, like in my childhood with dance and music and counting and all the things musically that happened in physically that happened in my life, incorporating music, came into play in order to do this. Cause I'd either be on a bicycle seat with one leg strap to it and the rest of my body. So I could move in slow mode. You guys are watching me. It's like Martha Graham. So I had to, they said, this point here is, this is so I use, this is George. This is so you have 10 seconds to get from here to, there is this contraption moves. So I had to move my body. Like I was swimming in slow motion while my voice got to move normally. So it was isolating. It was beautiful. It was making of it. It was incredible. It's it's really emotional. Like, and you have, you have Chivo, who's an extraordinary cinematographer, just trying to figure out technology as we were shooting basically. And we didn't know what it was. We had two previews and they were not great because the effects weren't in the music, wasn't any sauce, you know, lines. And it just felt, oh my God, I I'm coming out of, I thought I there's a rebirth for me. I felt good life was on the uptick. And then I saw the preview and I was like, oh my God, this is going to tank. I just, I'm just going to go back home with my baby. And we're just going to stay put. And How, w how was the early stuff like, like, as it was approaching the release date, a listener, there's a thing called tracking where you can sort of like, get it low, sort of like a hint as to how the movie is going to perform based on how much the public is aware of. It was that's all stuff good. W I honestly don't know, because I didn't get the sense that we had. I mean, I had an, the most profound experience of my career, just the personal life mixed with the kindest people being in England, just, you know, like it was just beautiful. All things kind of helped healing. And then not until we went to the Venice film festival, which was sort of a blur to begin with fittings in your hair and not have to get on a boat. What I have to look over my shoulder, what I have to post. I'm not good at any of that. I just want to implode and hide in a corner. Jason, you know, I don't leave the house, Which is so surprising me, because it's so inquire. You're incredibly charismatic and friendly and you know how to have it, but you also, but you know how to make people who you don't know and they don't use, you know how to make them feel safe. Like you're in, you have incredible people skills. That's with human beings. That's with people. I don't want to camera point. I don't want to be looked at that way in a nighttime. Yeah. Don't tell her what she's good at. She's doing, Let her speak. No, please be You connect with Sean at all. Cause he feels like a camera. Like he's like a robot right now. It's just, he's just walking, joy, just walking. I didn't know Sandy, other than our love for each other. I didn't know how much we had in common with the music and the opera. And . Yeah. Could you guys harmonize right now? No. Yeah. So that's all that you could know. How, how do you do that? Somebody starts to know Now you guys will have to finish this press tour. I can't, I can't my pores. Can't open an ooze and just mess up the 12 hours of hair and makeup That went into it. Make you sweat. Yeah. Any kind of singing. See, you guys have radio voices. I have a, not a voice for Radio Now, Sandy, sadly, there's a classic question on interviewer probably would ask probably something like Sean would ask, but I'm going to ask a different way. The common question would be, what have you done that you would like to do? My question is what have you done? Because you don't want to do it and that's never going to change. You're not ever like for me, it would be Shakespeare. I'd be way too scared to do that. I couldn't do it. What about w so what about it for you? Is it shit? Is it singing and dancing? Singing, Dancing, dancing, yes. Singing. That's so crazy. It's such a big part of your life that you can, I'm telling you. I can carry a tune. I can have any, I just remember my dad saying, you know, cause he was such an incredible teacher. He would travel between New York and DC and he taught people at the met and he would fix voices and teach them from the diaphragm and how he'll voices. And he says, you can have a five octave range. It doesn't matter if you cannot express yourself through song, people can sound like a car backed over them and have more to say with their voice. I can't. So your, your dad talked about music. He was a musician, a very talented, like to talk about all that kind of meat. I mean, imagine having a fi or just having a father who is around, but having one who also could talk about music, something that you're really interested in in Mother and my mother had a voice like buddy of Carlos, my mother sounded like Maria Kala. She had the most exquisite voice in the power behind her stillness. And she was, she was exquisite. It was a King's art. It's a King's art. Sean, are you crying right now on the Inside? Sean. So Sandy, what? You don't know? Shawn's Shawn's father drove, drove away from him doing about one 30 in a domestic, the six back in the passenger seat, right? Yeah. It was five years old. No, wait I, Sandy, I'm going to sing some, you're going to say you're going to, I'm going to sing something. You're going to say the name of the opera. Ready? Okay, cool. No, no, I don't know. I don't know the name, but I know Your mom had to have saying that. Well, not like, but nice voice. Really good. Really nice. Sean, do you do parties? Here's the sad part. Yes. Now here's another one in both of this goes for Sean and or Sandy who said this great quote. You ready? I like his show to unfold and keep presenting itself surprising you Don't You dare no, Sean. Wait, say it again. I like to show to unfold and keep presenting itself. Surprising you David Blaine, Tommy tune. So look, We always told my sister that was really her father and my mother had an affair with Tommy June. So you didn't feel any pressure or obligation to, to try singing? No. My dad and mom taught in the house at first, before they had their studios. And my dad used to bring me down as a kid and they kid a high C and I would belt it out and go back upstairs. But I think when your parents have such a rigorous artistry, like they did the practicing, every, it sounds came out of our basement in the neighborhood. Kids thought we were insane. I w it was shame. My mother was a Hottie and she had all these, and then she would sing opera and it was just shame and embarrassment for me. I wanted to know she, my mother was absolutely gorgeous and she, I was going into acting a bit of a make good on your part. Or was there a passion from you going into Acting was at comedy aspect. Like I lived for Jerry Lewis. I live for Mrs. Weakens. You know, it's like, I lived for any comedy. That was Here's one of the things. So Jason said it. And so he was saying, you know, you're, you're so you're so good with people. You're so charismatic, which is all very true. One of the things is, is that you connect with people with audiences. No, it's true. You connect with audiences in this way because, and you're so good. And you're so funny because you are very vulnerable on screen, whether you're doing a comedy or you're doing a drama and which is, which is rare, and you can do any, you're very rare that you can do so now, so as I say that, I'm thinking like, well, you've done so many great comedies. You've done action. You've done drum. As you've won academy awards, you've won everything. What is it in sort of the opposite of what Jason was asking? Well, not what are you scared of? What is that thing that's kind of out there for you, what's your a hundred foot wave? What's the thing that you're chasing my kids. Yeah. I just want to not be anywhere that takes me away from seeing they're growing. I really had on this last thing that I did, I just said something in my head. I was like, I feel like this is the last one for awhile. Wow. And I was like, because all I want to do is just watch them become and it's happening right now. And I'm sure the pandemic has something to do with that. Everything is so shut down and fear-based, and I just literally, I've had the luck of the draw in that I've been at the right place at the right time. I have a really strong work ethic that I know I have. And the rest of it is luck and timing. And I just don't want to be anywhere that I go. I just wish I was with my kids wherever they need to go right now, not in a helicoptery thing, but I'm lucky in that I can pay my bills. I've saved. I love my real estate. I love architecture. I've always planned to have the rug pulled out. So I'm fine. I just want to watch them grow up. And I don't, I feel the same way. I don't every job now I look at, I look at the first thing I think is, is this worth taking, even if it's in town, is this job worth taking in terms of hours that I'm going to spend late nights, whatever it is, or missing early mornings, is it going to be worth it being away from my kids for this? And the answer is always yes. It's all. I'm sure. I'm sure said you would say because Louis is now what? Phil 11, 15. He's 11 going on 12th and December. I know. And Lyla is nine going on nine, eight. Okay. Well, I'm super close on that for me. That's real clear Bulls, man. Don't tell Amanda, I missed it now. I'm sure. I'm sure you'll say that every age has, but what do you like most about this age that they're going through now? Because it's like, for me, I feel like you can, you can find out because there's so much better with language and feelings, you can find out much more accurately what's going on inside of them than when they're obviously two or three years old. Do you love that part of it or do you prefer the sort of the bottle and the pacifier and the No, no, no, no, no, no. I mean, that to me was amazing. I wish now I could go back and have a moment knowing now what I know with them in that stage. I type, so it wasn't because I was in a state of panic. I just, I felt like I had so much fear at that time that I missed out on the sweetness of That doing the wrong thing as a mom. Sure. And there was just a lot of stuff going on in my life at that time. And that just, I was running and I was in protection mode and I just felt like the world was coming in and I just wanted to protect them. And I felt guilt that it was coming in on them. And now that I look back, I go, why were you so worried? But it's, you know, 2020, but I love where they are now in the sense that Louise like a 78 year old philosopher in an 11 year old body who can talk to you philosophically and empathetically about life on a, on a junior level of high school, just put just, he says profoundly kind and evolved things yet. He's obsessed with Naruto and, and, and Spiderman in spite of her, it's like, he's, he's appropriately ballad and, and jumping, but that's the we're passing jogger. Okay. That was, that was pre pandemic. When you were at the house with a short coterie he's he's not moved done. Jason's like an 11 year old intellect at a 78 year old body. So it's kind of like, they got to spend some time with your son and kind of that. So Sandra Sandy. Yes. So I just a quick question, you mentioned that, you know, you said Jason, you know, that, that I, I, I don't like to go out and stuff like that, that I understand just from a human standpoint, nevermind being as you know, gigantically, famous public person, like you are A woman, But do you ever just miss going to the grocery store? Just like, you know, I do. And I do that in places where I, it's not LA, like I love roaming up and down the aisles of a grocery store and buying massive amounts of things. You go, I'm going to try this. I'm going to use this for this. And then you have like 17 jarred items that you'll never touch, but one day, if I should need it, those capers are right there. But you bet you're a homebody. I'm all, I'm just a home. I love being outside. I, I'm not a shut-in. I love being outside. I love hiking. I love that. You are great about going out. You call yourself somebody who's staying at home all the time, but you're great about going out for somebody as high profile as you, you keep telling Her what she is. And she keeps Telling me, I get the sense that let me finish. I get the sense that you're great at going out. I think about when we've gone out, what has been the catalyst to go out for us when we go out the kids every single time, But the way that you go, you're not, you're not always looking over your shoulder, worried about you're comfortable being, you know, out and about. Totally, totally, totally. Yes. I just I'm comfortable in normal settings. I'm not comfortable when you're on a red carpet or when you are, when I can talk to people, I love it because I learned something. I can be myself. It's my brain. I'm comfortable with my brain, but it's a weird, I was just showing you, looking over your shoulder, keep going as the pumper out to here yet. Are they here yet? Cause he'd called them. I mean, that's what you do. 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Hello, America's number one meal kit. And now back to the show, now let's get to unforgivable right now. This thing looks, can we say bad-ass on the radio? You can say, if you Say it like in Luxembourg and it looks like that, it Looks better For the wind. Now you didn't waste a lot of time in a wardrobe, fittings and hair and makeup tests. Now, what is that? That was a relief. You know, she plays, she plays an, an ex-con guys she's coming out of jail and she doesn't, she doesn't care about the hair and the makeup and the clothes. And don't give a shit, Bruce later, she doesn't give a shit In a world. This Christmas Cindy bullet doesn't give a shit. Now you don't, you, you do care a lot or a little about the, about, about the fact that there's a, The whole, The whole, glams the unfortunate, necessary glam side of, of the female side of this business, which I think is dog shit. Of course you care when you're on a red carpet and you look like shit. It's Like, you have to do that every day. I could. I Couldn't. I couldn't. I couldn't. I mean, that's the, what I loved about what I loved about. That's what I loved about what I loved about what I loved to get it. I loved physical comedy. None of it is beautiful. None of it, we required beauty. It like it translates all my mother was German. Had no sense of humor in one day. And she's looking at you, how many does it require beauty, go ahead, shut. But it doesn't, it doesn't require you to be insanely attractive. And as long as you are able to make an ass of yourself, and my mother was the hardest person to make laugh. And, but if I got injured, she thought it was hysterical German. So I realized that physical comedy was one way of making everyone around me comfortable, because I automatically looked like the ass and they couldn't make me feel I can ask. Cause I already did it for, It's not very surprising considering that the Germans, the people who invented a word for taking pleasure in other people's. Yeah. So, But this, but this film, but the, but the unforgivable December 10,000, yes. December 10th on Netflix is not a comedy make no mistake. Right. But you're saying like, So like a comedy you need not worry about all the glam in this because it's a bad-ass drama. Yes. It is a, it is a, it's a family drama, but it's also mixed in sort of a murder. I mean, look, I look at it. I go, I'm I like to entertain. So I don't want to find a subject matter that I feel I need to hit people over the head with, I want something that people go, what the fuck just happened here? Why didn't she do that? What kind of person is this? And within that is a story of just, you know, does this woman deserve forgiveness and redemption? Some people say no. And then it's just, I just love the combination of the two. I love that you go, okay, what does someone who's, who's eating themselves alive from the inside out look like, how do we get there? Right. So you just want to entertain and make people feel something, you know, The concept of like bird box at the LA was that the last Netflix film that you did, Wasn't originally at Netflix. It was at universal where stupor was at that time. And that's where it was going to be. And then he moved, Scott said, let's drag it over here. And he moved Enough flicks. And he said, what do you think? And I went, I like trying new things. I like, I like that. I mean, look, I, as a woman, I'm just surprised I'm still working and it's a nice place to be. But I liked the idea of it working at Netflix because the boys got to do it. The, the, the girls hadn't done it yet. And You feel that thing, you just touched on it, you're a woman and you're happy to be still working. Do you feel that thing of like there there's less and less roles for, for women? No, I feel there's more and more and more because of streaming because of everything out there. And look, I'd always plan for the rug to be pulled out much earlier on. That's why my first love, which is restoration in real estate. And all that was where my money went. Every penny went into there to build that for the kids, if they ever want to take it over. And I had something to fall back on that I loved just as much, if not more at times. So I didn't want to be left without my creative juices being able to be used. And, and I'm just surprised that I'm like, okay, this must be my last one. Wait, If you were not applicable, if they kicked you out of the business tomorrow, would you be an interior designer, an architect or realtor Restore A restorer Restore. And I like finding properties, finding out what the story is, getting it back to the vibe that I feel it wants to be in finding its use and purpose. You know, all the places that I have are least are used in, it's just, you get to still have the thing that I loved and spent two and a half years getting to the place that it should be or should have been. So it's not a redo. It's a restore Mostly pretty much. Pretty much. Yeah. I love that. That's pretty cool. And you'll rent these. Yeah, I love it. What's the percent of rent in a lease. Well, it depends on what they are. Some of some are home. Some are our buildings. Some are, are, you know, it's, it's, I just love the history of architecture that in our country, I think we're so quick to take away. And I think the thing about Europe is you can walk around and you feel the history. I think that's why I love new Orleans so much. I just watched a documentary on PBS about Paul Williams. Oh my gosh. I looked for a Paul Williams home for so long when it was just me and Lou. And I said, how amazing would it be? If the home that I find in LA, when I was moving from Austin would have been a Paul Williams home. Like, you know, he used to draw the plans upside down because his clients who were white and he was not, he felt, he felt they wouldn't want to sit next to him. So he learned how to draw His plan. It's fascinating. It's incredible. And then he went into songwriting and did some of the acting stuff. And what about his cameo in Cannonball run with? Sure. People got a lot of hats. Did, did any of that strike a chord there? Jason, as I'm singing, having my baby. Oh, well that's, that's a, that's my father-in-law and he's, you know, I gotta get him on this show. Goddammit. You haven't had him on the show. Who's your father-in-law tell who say who it is. His name is Paul Lanka and he's, he's a pillar of the music industry. Well, I'm going to, I'm going to explain it all to you after, after this episode Canadian. I know exactly. I want to say, you know, when you, when you said you only do projects that, that keep you close to your family, which I totally admire and totally get, do they ever come visit and hang out with you and do they are, do they get excited about it? Or they're like, this looks boring. He gets really excited about craft service, but then since COVID hit, there is no craft service. So he's absolutely disinterested in anything that I have to do Laila on the other hand is going to no doubt, either be president of the United States or be in the entertainment industry. She is, she's A force. She's Shy. She's such a powerhouse. So like, w I remember thinking my kids will never be in the business. And then it was like, why not? Wait to, I told her, I said, wait until you're 18. I want you to be baked. I don't want you to be a child. But I said, after you turned 18, this is something that you really want then. Absolutely. But I want you to be a kid. I want you to have that. I, I, we know what it looks like to be a kid on a set and it's hard. It's hard. It's, it's, it's look at me. I'm a, but this, this incredible maternal instinct that you have, it didn't come from having a shitty upbringing. And so you want to make things right? For your kids. It came because you had a great upbringing. Yes. And you wanted to keep it going. I, I always knew that I would be a mom. I always knew. And my thing, my mother saw it and she kept me under lock and key and was like, you know, it's very true. My mother was incredibly strict with me. I was not allowed in a car or a car date or anything like that to be alone with anyone basically till I was 18 To horny. Because she, you know, because I was a horn dog. What about your sister? Not so much, not So much. Cause had got away with murder. She did everything. I didn't do. She snuck out. She did drugs. She tried all that stuff. She was, but she was a brilliant student, but I, I was, I talked back. I questioned authority. I was, I, my, my sister told me later on in life, she goes, you just didn't play the game. Right? You what? You fought back. I should have just been the quiet studious girl that I was, but I wasn't that way. So my mother thought I was just trouble and I didn't do anything. I did not. Didn't even skip school. I did nothing. So I just came from a very sheltered life. I knew that I wanted kids. I loved kids, but I didn't want them any time. Now. I like boys too much. I wanted to go through that Rolodex. Let me ask you this. Do, do, do you, as far as the business goes and it relates to family, do you feel like you want to beat it to the punch and, and, and, and leave while you're ahead? Or do you want to work until, you know, you can't work any longer? No, Either really? I don't. I always think I'm literally like the last one. I said, this is probably my last one in a long time, just because that's where I am. And look, that could be a flop or it could be amazing. I think it's going to be great fun, but you don't know. And I just, I don't know, because I, I sort of just kind of go with where my joy is at that time. And I was like, what if I take, what if I just don't work for a while? And I want to come back and they don't let me in you go, so they don't let you in. So like, I don't want this business to be really, to define me or to make me anxious. If it isn't there for me anymore. That's what I'm striving for is to just Your spot will always be saved for you because you're not, you're not, you're not, you're not, you're not a success because you're beautiful. You're not a success because you're funny. You're not as you're, you're a sass because of all of those things. So in other words, you're not going to age out or time out or a talent out talent out of anything on top of all that, you're also producing a ton of stuff too. And with all your set experience, you'd probably be an incredible director as well. So I, I don't want to direct, I have no desire to direct. No, no, no, no. I mean, I like, I just want to go home. I just want to go home producing I'm there anyway. Yeah. So the producing, I love because it's control. It's like, if it's, I don't want anyone to sink my ship, but me, right. I'm directing you are responsible. I don't want to be responsible for anything other than that, which allows me to go home to my family. Oh, that's smart. So then you're probably, you're probably one take two takes. Sandy's got it. Well, I'd like to come out of the gate. Well prepared. Cause I don't want to waste time. And you know, when the clock is ticking, so I mean, that's where once you learn what production is about, act, most actors don't, then you go, oh, that's money. Oh, that's time. You know, you come prepared. I have a really strong work ethic probably cause I'm German. I know how lucky I am. I don't want to waste people's time. I want to give myself every opportunity when the, within the allotted time, you know, and not have someone go, well, we couldn't get it. Let's move on. And I'm like, I panic. Are you a first person with drama? Yes. Drama. Yes. Waitress. Save it for the close-up with drama. I've learned to do, Because once I realized I was like, wait a minute, what do you mean? We're in a wide, Right? And for Tracy in Wisconsin, that means that usually when you shoot a scene, you'll shoot the scene into wider and then they'll move into you and you'll get pieces where you'll cover each actor and they call that coverage. So when you're in, hang on, I'm just explaining for your sister, Shawn, I'm talking to your sister. And, and so if, if, if Sandy Bullock is doing a very emotional dramatic scene, Tracy, you she's got to emote. Okay. Hang on, hang on. Sorry. Hang on. Tracy's also narcoleptic. She's getting some milk for Tracy right here. She's right here. Getting milk. Okay. So now she's back. And so she has to keep that in order to give that performance, she wants to give, she wants to give it in the closeup, which is the size that they're going to probably got to in that a moment in that moment. So Sandy, I have a question when you're in England and you're shooting and you don't nail it on the first take, do you go Bullock's Bullock's crikey? No. He was doing your last name. He was trying to sneak it, sneak In. See, most of the year, Sandy will we'll let Them Your favorite. My favorite moment that he did, he played a little shtick for women in film years ago, my sister and I were there and he's at the piano. And he was the only one that called it. What it was he goes with. Yeah. Right? No, but it was, it was women and film, partnerships and entertainment was the full thing. So women in film, partnerships and entertainment, and I wrote a song to Coldplay and I sang it using different words. And I called it with of PI. It was brilliant. That's right. With a pie. See, he did something for the ladies. That's right. I always do stuff for the lady. I Love the ladies. He's the song and dance, man. We we've kept Sandy book way too long. She's way too important. I've I've made my way through a pack of the Oh candy. Because when you know you're in a press, junket, caffeine, green tea and Whoppers, Sandy, we love you. Thank you so much for saying yes and squeezing us in on. I love it. You know what thank you for I'm so proud of you and your, your wife is amazing. Amanda, Amanda, Amanda. She birthed him two of the most extraordinary young women. I second I've had the pleasure of watching grow up. These kids are yours. They're Incredible. I'm going to probably see your daughter tomorrow. Tell her my house. You know, she comes to my house for like play dates. Right? She's in love with Layla Now. Well they're, they're, they're cut from the same cloth. Yeah. And we're in love with you. Thank you for saying yes. Have a great rest of your day. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Get your flag back up in front of the cameras. Slam the laptop close or whatever. Let your freak flag fly for sure. Ready? It was so good to see you guys and I'll feed us in Bye. And she's she's she's sunlight. She's she's a sunlight, right? That's a movie star, right? That's a movie star. Yeah. And also, also simultaneously a very real grounded, cool person. That's why she's a star. You don't wish it. We, we book up, we book a few of those, I think because the three of us are allergic to the other, but we should book the other. We should, we should get, we should get a real sob in here. We should. Yeah. She's great. I didn't know all that stuff about her background and yeah. Ya. Did you know that before Jason, Before you were Wikipedia? No, no. Or the opera singer stuff or any, any of that? Oh cool. Yeah. Or the, or the ages of her kids. Listen, I don't, I just, I see the eyes, the eyes and the heart. I just see Eisenhardt, Eisenhardt, Eisenhardt. 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