I’m joined by Gwen Betts for the final episode of this season. She is a UX director at Rapid7 via the acquisition of her previous company, Komand. She provides unique perspective as someone who started in design and would later bring that expertise to security. We talked about her design principles and what makes good UX. We also discussed how security professionals can most effectively engage with UX and areas of the infosec space that are ripe for UX innovation.