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Southern Fried True Crime covers cases that
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are not suitable for young listeners, and
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there may also be some explicit language used. Listener
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discretion is advised. On
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a hot Sunday in September of 2016,
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Tex and Diane
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McIver played golf in the searing Georgia
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sun for four hours. They
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picked up Diane's best friend, Danny Jo Carter,
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from their Putnam County ranch where she had
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been riding horses before they all headed back
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to Atlanta, stopping for dinner and
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Conyers. The
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McIvers had been drinking, so
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after dinner, Danny drove the rest of the
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way home, with Diane in the front seat
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and Tex behind her in the back seat.
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At around 10 p.m. that Sunday night, Atlanta
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traffic was at a standstill on the downtown
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connector. Diane told Danny Jo
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to get off at Edgewood Avenue. Tex
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had fallen asleep in the back seat, and his wife fussed
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at him to wake up so he'd be able to sleep
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that night. When he
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looked around and saw the area they were in, he
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said, girls, this was a bad idea. This
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is a bad area. And
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then he said, darlin', hand me my gun.
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Diane McIver then handed her husband a gun that
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would kill her. The
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Atlanta PD charged McIver with involuntary
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manslaughter, but the
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DA disagreed and charged Tex
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McIver with malice murder. But
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did Tex McIver really mean to kill his wife?
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Welcome to episode 66, Tex
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and Diane McIver, accident or
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murder. Atlanta,
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Georgia is one of the most famous U.S.
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Southern cities in the world during
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the American Civil War. the burning
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of Atlanta was crucial in General Sherman's march to
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the sea. It crippled the
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Confederacy and was the beginning of the end of
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the Civil War. The
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city fell in September of 1864 and the war
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ended in April 1865. The fall of Atlanta
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was extensively covered by northern newspapers and
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they gave a huge boost to northern
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morale as well as President Lincoln's political
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standing as he won the election that
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November by a significant margin. Sadly,
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Lincoln was assassinated just five
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days after Confederate General Robert
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E. Lee surrendered in Appomattox,
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Virginia. Today, modern Atlanta
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is known for its eclectic, diverse
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culture. It has been a
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mecca for African-American political power, education,
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and culture. There
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has been a black mayor in office in
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Atlanta since 1974. During
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the Civil Rights Movement in the 60s, a
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popular Atlanta slogan was it was a city too busy
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to hate, a slogan that would continue
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into the 90s. And
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in comparison to other large cities in the deep
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south, the progressive politics and diversity
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would make that slogan ring true.
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But in reality, the people of Atlanta
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are still dealing with racial disparity, tensions,
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and the economic effects of gentrification. In
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2016, when Diane McIver
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was killed, Atlanta was in
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an exciting transitional phase. Real
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estate prices that had lagged since the recession
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finally saw an uptick. New
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ground was broken for retail and office
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spaces. The Braves
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left Turner filled for SunTrust Park,
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a new entertainment complex within walking
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distance of bars, shopping, and residential
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areas. In popular
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culture, the critically acclaimed show Atlanta
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premiered, as well as Stranger Things,
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the Netflix hit that while
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set in Indiana had been filmed in
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Atlanta and surrounding areas, giving another boost
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to the local economy. On
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April 14, Prince played his
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final show at the Fox Theater in
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what patch.com called an intimate stripped
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down performance just a week before
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his death. That
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May, Atlanta was chosen to host the
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2019 Super Bowl, making way for
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a new $1.4 billion stadium
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that would host the Atlanta Falcons and the
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new Atlanta Soccer Club. 2016
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was also the third year of the Black Lives Matter
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movement. In July, hundreds
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had marched in downtown Atlanta to
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protest police shootings. The
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day before, a young black man had been found
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hanging in Piedmont Park. The
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AJC reported that the protest was in part
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a reaction to what many believed was a
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modern day lynching. However,
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the young man's death was ruled a suicide,
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and a social media post showed that he
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had been shamed by his family for being
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gay. It was a
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terrible coincidence, as there were so
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many police shootings nationwide that had led to the
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protests. In the first half of
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July alone, there were 112 protests in 88 cities. It's
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important to mention the Atlanta march, because it does
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become a factor in this case, though there was
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no official march on the day Diane McIver was
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killed. But still,
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the specter of dangerous Black Lives Matter
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protesters was raised by Tex McIver's PR
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guy, a move
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that was seriously detrimental to McIver's
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defense. I'm
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going to pause now for a short commercial break.
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Claude Lee McIver was born in San
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Antonio, Texas, on December 22, 1943. He
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graduated from law school at the University of
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Texas, before moving to Atlanta. Claude,
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known as Tex all of his life, worked
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for Fisher Phillips' law firm for decades.
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He was a labor lawyer, but he
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didn't represent the little guy, he represented
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the corporations. By
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2016, he was a longtime partner. But
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recently, he went from equity partner to
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income partner, meaning his income dropped from
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about $700,000 a year to about $120,000 a year. He
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was 73 years old. That's not
6:13
unusual. Tex McIver was
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also a staunch Republican who served on the
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state election board for 12 years.
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He was nominated by the governor in 2005
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to be on the Judicial Nomination Committee. And
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even more telling, he served on the
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American Bar Association Committee on gun violence.
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Tex was a man who knew guns. He
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didn't just know them, he loved them, owning
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close to 40 guns, some 22 of
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those being rifles. He
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was such a good shot he could toss a bottle in the air
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and hit it. Tex
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McIver married his first wife Nancy in 1966. They
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had three kids, two sons and a daughter. He
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filed for divorce in 1997, citing
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several affairs she said Tex had. Specifically
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that he was having an affair with a woman
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that worked at their Putnam County Ranch. The
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85 acre ranch was Tex's crown jewel.
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He had horses and cattle and a
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big sprawling ranch house as well as
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a guest house and pool. Tex
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kept the ranch in the divorce but otherwise took
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quite the hit financially. It
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was an ugly three year court battle. When
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they settled in July of 2000, Tex had
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spent more than $100,000 on attorney's fees and
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he had agreed to pay Nancy almost $700,000 in alimony. Nancy
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also got half of his retirement account which was valued
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at a little over $700,000 at
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the time of settlement and also half of
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their property which was $400,000. Tex
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also had to pay $100,000 for her attorney's fees. The
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settlement even stipulated how Tex could
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visit their dog, Malone. Quote,
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the wife shall allow the husband to use her
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garden hose if necessary to wash the dog after
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one of his visits. His
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daughter and one of his sons. stopped speaking to
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him after the ugly divorce, to
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the point that he wasn't even invited to his
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daughter Meredith's wedding. At the
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time of his divorce, his assets totaled almost
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1 million, but his monthly income was
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down to $17,000 a month. He used to bring in close to $60,000.
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But like I said, his age and
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semi-retirement had changed his salary. He
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met Diane the year of his divorce, though
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there is no speculation whatsoever that there was
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any overlap or that she was one of
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the affairs Nancy accused him of. He
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met her through business associates and
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was immediately enamored of the beautiful
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47-year-old woman. Being 10 years
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her senior didn't deter him at all. Diane
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Biddy Smith McIver was born on July 21,
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1953, in Auburn, Alabama. She had a kind
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of rags-to-riches
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aura about her, but she grew
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up middle class, though her
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relationship with her mother was always very volatile.
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She had never known her father and
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her mother was an alcoholic, with several
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ex-husbands. Diane had a brother
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who died in his early 20s. She
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moved to Atlanta with her family when she was in high
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school, and a business owner
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named Billy Corey hired her when she
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was just 17 years old as a
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part-time payroll clerk. She worked
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nights to earn an accounting degree from Georgia State
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University. In her
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first job for Corey at U.S.
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Enterprises, she started out answering phones and
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soon became president. U.S. Enterprises
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is the umbrella company that Corey
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Enterprises falls under. At the
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time of her death, Diane McIver was
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the CEO of Corey Enterprises, and her
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net worth was estimated at 12 million.
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She had worked for Corey Enterprises for 43 years. She
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was respected as a formidable businesswoman,
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ambitious, uncompromising, and tough
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as nails. Diane
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didn't marry until she was 40 years old.
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She always just said that was a mistake. She
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never had children or of her own. Friends
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later said it was a painful divorce,
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and like Tex's divorce, it was also
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ugly with the splitting of finances. And
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Diane was estranged from her mother for 15 years before
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her death. She wouldn't even
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attend her funeral, telling her neighbor that she would
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not shed one tear for her mother. Though
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Tex and Diane had met before, he
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started pursuing her more vigorously when she
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moved into the luxury villa Buck had
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condos in Atlanta in the summer of
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2000. He slipped a note under her door
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welcoming her to the building. She
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wasn't interested at first, but he wore her down.
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When she finally agreed to a date, it was
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dinner in Tex's apartment. And Diane showed
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up in yoga gear in a ball cap. She
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was determined that this was going nowhere. But
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Tex charmed her. Rachel
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Stiles, one of Diane's assistants said
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quote, he was the perfect match
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for Diane. Diane was a very
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strong woman. She intimidated a lot of
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men. They just didn't want to compete with her.
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The text didn't want to compete with her. He
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was just infatuated with her. Diane
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didn't trust many people but seemed to trust
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those that worked for her. Her
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best friend, Danny Joe Carter, the one
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driving that night was her manicurist. They
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had been friends for 40 years, though there
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was a 10 year period they didn't speak because
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Danny Joe had a drinking problem. She
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got sober and was then welcomed back into
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Diane's life. Diane's
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other trusted confidants were her two personal assistants
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at work and the man who detailed her
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car and ran errands for her. And
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that's about it. You would
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think a woman in her position would have many
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rich high society friends. But Diane
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chose to trust people who worked for her. It's
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not that she didn't rub elbows with the well
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healed in Atlanta. She did. But
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her close friends were more down to earth. offer
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tips on how to lose it. It
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wasn't really malicious, she was
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just fastidious. And
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she always thought she knew best. She could
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be really critical. But everyone in
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her life accepted that as the other side
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of the coin that was Diane, because
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she was also very generous and loving. And
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she was hard on herself too, that's probably
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why she felt critical of others. She
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got up at 5am every day to work out,
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and she kept weights in her office. But
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she can't always behave that way with your peers and
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get away with it. Diane did,
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but her friends were not exactly her
12:34
peers. She was the
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CEO of a company, a self-made millionaire.
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Her friends were mostly employees and
12:41
co-workers, she didn't have close friends
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in her own social standing. Which
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isn't that unusual. How many
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female CEOs do you know? Her
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peer group would be mainly men in that sense.
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And before tax, she had even
12:56
decided not to remarry. I
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think that wealth can be insulating from the
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world's problems, but it can also
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be very isolating. You need
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to know if someone is your real friend or if they
13:07
want something from you. At least
13:09
with employees, you know where you stand. But
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Diane wound up falling hard for tax. They
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dated for almost 5 years before marrying in
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November of 2005 in a lavish
13:19
ceremony at the ranch. Diane
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came down the aisle in a horse-drawn carriage.
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The horse, wearing a flower crown, was
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her maid of honor. And
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they lived a jet-setting, extravagant lifestyle.
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Trips to Paris and the south of France. She
13:35
and tax would fly into Louisville for the Kentucky
13:37
Derby, but have Danny Jo or her husband drive
13:40
their limo up so they could have
13:42
it to ride around town in. But she was
13:44
generous to Danny Jo with these trips, even if
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Danny Jo might drive the limo or handle some
13:48
other things for her. She was
13:50
getting to go on all these fabulous trips
13:52
all over the world with her generous best
13:54
friend. And Diane often
13:56
lent money to her friends. Terry
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Brown was. Diane's personal assistants at Korea
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Enterprises and he was in charge of
14:03
keeping track of the loans she gave
14:05
friends. He. Told the Aj see that
14:07
around the third of every month she would ask him
14:09
if the money was all in. She
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loaned money but with reasonable interest rates
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as she. Even lose money to tax.
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It's important to note here that she
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attacks made the decision before they married.
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To keep their finances separate. Both.
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Had been through messy. Expensive divorces and
14:27
bullet for still self made
14:29
millionaires. At
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the time of her death, it was estimated
14:33
at Diane was worth around twelve million, but
14:35
most of that was in real estate holdings.
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She. Had about four hundred thousand in the bank.
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And Texas worth about one point? Seven million
14:43
on isn't. I told you
14:45
before that his income has significantly. Decreased but
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it's not like he was a poor man. The.
14:50
Engagement ring he gave diane was
14:52
worth sixty thousand dollars. The.
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Loans she may to with to expand
14:57
the guesthouse. Making. It a real party
15:00
house on the property and the style of an old
15:02
was saloon. I've seen
15:04
conflicting reports on his ideas a slurs.
15:07
Friends. Told reporters that it was Diane's
15:09
She loved have a huge parties on the
15:11
ranch! Texas. Fine
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with that, as long as she could pay for it. But.
15:16
She made it alone in his name with
15:18
interest. He was staying around fifteen
15:20
hundred dollars a month on alone just. The
15:22
Interest. It was supposed to have
15:24
been a three year alone, but in two
15:26
thousand and fourteen, diane extended alone for another
15:28
three years. Jerry. Brown said the
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tax always made his payments on time. But.
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The interesting thing on this extension as as
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she put a codicil that attacks defaulted she
15:38
could call him alone and take controlling interest
15:41
of the ranch. Well.
15:43
Tax it already willingly for her name on the deed to
15:45
the ranch when they got married. This.
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Is where they're from? An answer seen? Murky to me,
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Is. She really was the one who wanted to sleep.
15:53
Party House. She certainly could afford to pay
15:55
for it. But. she expected tax
15:57
to and that caught us all this her
16:00
insurance that he would pay for it. But
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the same friends who claimed the saloon was her
16:04
idea said that the loan through Tex was
16:06
merely for tax purposes. She
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and Tex also made new wills in 2005. Much
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was made at Texas trial about the possibility
16:15
of another new will that Diane had recently
16:17
made, but they never found proof of it.
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The other important person to point out
16:23
when it comes to the McIver finances
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is their godson, Austin Schwall. His
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parents were divorced and he was the son of a
16:29
Fulton County judge. They both doted
16:32
on the boy, but especially Diane who
16:34
never had children of her own.
16:37
Austin called her mommy die. She threw
16:39
him lavish birthday parties, paid for private school,
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and intended to pay for his college. If
16:45
there were issues with her will, it
16:47
was discussed on and off for a few years,
16:49
it was Austin. Diane wanted
16:51
to leave him everything, but Tex wanted to leave
16:53
all or at least part to the son that
16:55
still spoke to him. But
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Diane never legally changed her will. Despite
17:02
the rumors the prosecution continuously brought
17:04
up, there was no proof. No
17:07
other will was ever found. The
17:09
prosecution even put out an ad for any Atlanta
17:11
lawyer who might have worked on a will for
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Diane McIver to please come forward. None
17:16
did. But before we
17:18
get into that, we need to go back to that
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Sunday night on September 6th, 2016. I'm going to pause
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now to hear
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a word from today's sponsors. That
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Sunday was a hot day for September, even
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in Georgia, with temperatures rising
17:45
into the 90s. Diane,
17:47
Tex, and Danny Joe had been at the
17:49
ranch all weekend. Danny
17:52
Joe later testified that Tex got up that
17:54
morning and brought her and Diane coffee upstairs
17:57
before making breakfast for everyone. liked
18:00
doing little things like that. He
18:02
was always the courtly gentleman, even after 10
18:04
years of marriage. Tex
18:07
and Diane had given Danny Joe a horse, and
18:09
that Sunday the MacGyvers went to meet a friend
18:11
to play golf while Danny Joe stayed at the
18:13
ranch to ride her horse. Tex
18:17
later told investigators that his wife shot a 74
18:19
that day while he shot a 92. They all
18:23
had a lot of fun that day despite the heat. After
18:26
they finished playing golf, Tex and Diane picked
18:28
up Danny Joe to head back to Atlanta.
18:31
Danny Joe said they poured wine in a Yeti
18:33
cup and sipped it as they headed to dinner
18:35
in Conyers, Georgia on the way back into the
18:38
city. They were meeting a friend
18:40
and colleague of Diane's for dinner at the Longhorn
18:42
Steakhouse. There, a
18:44
bottle of red wine was opened. Tex
18:46
later said he didn't drink much of it because he didn't
18:48
like it. But still, after
18:51
dinner, Danny Joe took over the driving
18:53
because Diane and Tex had been drinking
18:56
and she was sober. As
18:58
they neared Atlanta, traffic on the downtown connector
19:00
was a parking lot. Even
19:03
at 10pm on a Sunday night you could
19:05
count on Atlanta traffic being the worst. Diane
19:09
told Danny Joe to take the Edgewood Avenue exit,
19:12
and then she turned around and fleshed at Tex to wake
19:14
up. He had fallen asleep in the
19:16
back seat. Diane was in the
19:18
front passenger seat and Tex was directly behind
19:20
her. She didn't want him to
19:22
fall asleep because she said he wouldn't be able to sleep that
19:24
night. When Tex woke up
19:26
and looked around, he said, quote, girls,
19:29
this is a bad idea. This isn't
19:31
safe. He was
19:33
talking about the area of midtown they were in. Diane
19:36
said, we'll be on Piedmont shortly. But
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he said, quote, darling, hand me my gun.
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And Diane reached into
19:43
the center console and pulled out a snub
19:46
nose 38 revolver wrapped in a plastic bag.
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And then she handed it to her husband. And
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here is where everything went wrong. Tex
19:55
took the gun and laid it in his lap
19:57
and then nodded back off to sleep. Danyjoe
20:00
said that she was driving on Piedmont when
20:02
she got stopped by a red light at
20:04
either 12th or 13th Street, and
20:07
then she heard a boom. She thought
20:09
at first that they had been hit by another car, but
20:11
Tex quickly said, I discharged the gun,
20:13
and asked if everyone was alright. Diane
20:17
said, Tex, what did you do? Danyjoe
20:20
said she thought there would be a bullet hole
20:22
in the floor of the car, and no one
20:24
realized Diane was shot at first, not even Diane. Well
20:28
she started breathing heavy and slumped in her seat,
20:30
and then she said, I've been shot. At
20:34
this, Tex leaned forward, cradling her
20:36
head, as Danyjoe stepped on the
20:38
gas to speed to a hospital. This
20:41
is another huge point of contention at trial. Why
20:44
didn't they just call 911? Danyjoe
20:47
admitted she was scared because of the location, and
20:49
wasn't sure how long it would take to get
20:51
an ambulance there. She had Piedmont
20:53
Hospital in mind, but didn't know the way. Tex
20:57
spoke up and directed her to Emory Hospital,
20:59
which was not the closest. Even
21:02
if it was the closest, anyone from Atlanta
21:04
can tell you that Grady Memorial Hospital has
21:06
a renowned level 1 trauma unit. It
21:09
handles almost all gunshot wounds in Atlanta.
21:13
At trial, the prosecution would apply that
21:15
Tex intended to go to a further
21:17
away hospital. But the truth
21:19
is, Emory Hospital was a client of his. As
21:22
a lawyer at Fisher Phillips, he had represented the
21:24
hospital, and had been there many times. He
21:27
knew exactly where it was. And
21:29
this makes sense to me, despite the fact that
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Grady was known to be the place for a gunshot wound.
21:35
Tex went to the first hospital he knew how to get
21:37
to. What Tex and
21:39
Danyjoe didn't know was that there was a firehouse some
21:42
300 yards or so from where
21:44
the SUV was sitting when Diane was shot. Though
21:47
the exact distance is estimated because they were on
21:49
a section of Piedmont where the traffic cameras were
21:51
not working. Danyjoe also
21:53
wasn't sure which stop light she was at. So
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there were medics extremely close by. the
22:00
decision to drive to a hospital, any
22:02
hospital, was a mistake. They should
22:04
have called 911. At
22:08
the hospital, Tex is seen on security
22:10
cameras, jumping out of the SUV and
22:12
waving Danny Joe through to the emergency
22:14
doors. He also
22:16
helps get his wife into a wheelchair. Dr.
22:19
Suzanne Hardy took Diane's case at the
22:21
ER. Diane made a
22:23
spontaneous comment in front of the doctor
22:26
while she was examining her. She
22:28
said, quote, it was an accident. At
22:31
trial, the prosecution focused on her
22:34
only other statement. She
22:36
said, I'm dying. And then the doctor asked
22:38
if she wanted to see her husband, and
22:41
Diane said no. To
22:43
this I say Diane was dying. Who
22:45
knows if she even understood the doctor's question at
22:48
that point. Her blood pressure was
22:50
extremely low, and she was about to
22:52
be taken in for emergency surgery. The
22:55
other spontaneous comment can be
22:57
considered a dying declaration. It
22:59
was not an answer to a question made
23:02
under duress. Diane just said it. The
23:05
bullet hit where Diane's 11th rib met
23:07
her 11th vertebrae, scattering pieces of bone.
23:09
It then traveled through her left adrenal
23:11
gland and left kidney and severed blood
23:14
vessels going into her spleen, then
23:16
through her pancreas and stomach. So
23:20
blood quickly started filling her abdominal cavity.
23:22
The bullet missed her heart by centimeters,
23:25
but because it nicked those arteries, she
23:27
bled out internally anyway. Dr.
23:30
Hardy wanted to transfer her to Grady, but
23:32
Diane was never stable enough for transfer. In
23:36
the operating room, surgeons opened her
23:38
abdomen only to find several liters
23:40
of blood, close to what would be
23:43
the total blood volume in her body. For
23:46
over an hour, surgeons fought to save
23:48
Diane's life, tying off damaged
23:50
blood vessels and removing pieces of damaged
23:52
organs. But her
23:55
blood pressure kept dropping. The
23:57
attending surgeon's report read chance
24:00
of survival was zero at this stage. There
24:03
is no disagreement whatsoever among anyone involved,
24:05
including all of the surgeons and the
24:07
anesthesiologist, that we could have done anything
24:09
differently and given her a chance to
24:11
survive. At
24:13
the hospital, Tex called an old friend
24:15
of his. This would wind up being a
24:18
very bad decision. His friend was
24:20
also an attorney, an attorney who
24:22
had represented him before. Steven
24:24
Maples is a Decatur attorney who defended Tex when
24:26
he was charged in 1990 with three counts
24:30
of aggravated assault for firing his pistol
24:32
at a car with three young men
24:34
inside. The
24:36
teens had been hanging out in the cul-de-sac
24:38
of Tex's neighborhood, playing their music
24:40
loud and annoying him. He
24:43
tried seeking his dogs on them before he got his
24:45
gun out. But the
24:47
charges were dropped when Tex agreed to pay for the
24:49
damages to the teen's car. And
24:52
this was the guy who sat on the American
24:54
Bar Association Committee on Gun Violence. It's
24:57
an example of what the prosecution would later
24:59
seize upon. Tex was
25:01
a politically connected white man. He
25:04
got away with that incident 15 years earlier,
25:06
and now he was involved in another gun
25:08
incident. At
25:10
the hospital, Tex and Steven Maples were
25:13
overheard conferring, and Tex was heard saying, What
25:15
do I say? What do I do? Naturally,
25:18
there was much made of this at trial.
25:21
But honestly, if you had just shot
25:23
your wife even accidentally, wouldn't you be
25:25
scared? But optics
25:27
are everything, and his behavior, even while
25:29
still at the hospital, put people off.
25:33
And at this point, he had no idea that
25:35
Diane had already told the doctor it was an
25:37
accident. He went up
25:39
to Danny Jo and said, Why don't you just say
25:41
you weren't there? Things like this can
25:43
get so turned around. Just say you came
25:45
here to be with us as a food. And
25:48
Danny Jo told him no, she couldn't do that.
25:50
Quote, Tex, I just drove you to
25:52
the R I can't do that. Why
25:55
would I be here at this time of night on a
25:57
Sunday without my own car? Danny
26:00
Jo talked to the Atlanta police right away
26:02
and insisted it was a tragic accident. She
26:05
said there was no doubt in her mind. And
26:08
this was even after his strange request for her to
26:10
lie at the hospital. She
26:12
didn't tell police about Texas request the first time
26:14
they questioned her, but she did the
26:16
second time. And
26:19
a very different Danny Jo testified at trial.
26:21
She did not change her story, but she was
26:23
no longer on Texas side. She
26:26
now believed the shooting was intentional. I
26:30
think like everyone else, she was put
26:32
off by Texas behavior after Diane's death,
26:35
starting with him asking her to lie at the hospital.
26:39
Afterwards, he went so far as to call
26:41
Danny Jo's husband and tell him to get Danny
26:43
Jo to retract what she told the police. Interestingly,
26:47
Texas defense team found another reason
26:49
for Danny Jo's flip. Diane
26:51
had loaned her money also, as
26:54
she did for many friends and associates, and
26:56
Tex expected her to pay the loan. Now
27:00
this isn't as heartless as it sounds. Tex
27:03
was executor of Diane's estate. Danny
27:06
Jo wasn't the only friend expected to repay their
27:08
loan. And
27:10
about Tex's behavior? Well first
27:12
of all, Tex didn't go voluntarily talk to
27:14
police for two days. That
27:16
does look bad. Why wouldn't you
27:18
just sit down with him right away if it was an
27:21
accident? And why
27:23
didn't the police insist on speaking with him right away?
27:26
I'm pretty sure if I shot my husband, I
27:28
would be questioned that same day, even
27:30
with a witness saying it was an accident. It
27:33
does show that Tex was getting preferential treatment.
27:36
The police felt confident it was an accident
27:38
after taking Danny Jo's statement. So
27:40
maybe this isn't as bad as it looks. But
27:43
again, optics are everything. And
27:45
to the world, this looked like a rich white
27:47
lawyer with political connections wasn't being questioned
27:49
by the police right away. And
27:53
why would he choose to wait? And
27:55
say Tex was beside himself. It
27:57
wasn't to get his story straight. He was just
27:59
in shock. When
28:01
he did finally talk to the police, he said the gun was
28:03
in his lap and it just went off.
28:06
Tex told police, quote, I was handling the gun,
28:08
I forgot it was in my lap, and it just went
28:10
off. And I
28:12
don't think he's lying. Tex
28:15
was diagnosed with REM behavioral disorder,
28:18
which means where most people don't act
28:20
out their dreams, Tex often did thrash
28:23
around. Bill Rankin with
28:25
the AJC podcast Breakdown explained this
28:27
diagnosis very well. He
28:29
said normally people have a wall between their
28:31
dreams and actual bodily movements in reaction
28:33
to the dream. People
28:36
with REM behavioral disorder somehow quote,
28:38
breach that wall. Specifically,
28:42
Tex would clench his fingers and thrash his
28:44
arms. A masseuse
28:46
named Annie Anderson testified at Tex's
28:48
trial about his condition. He
28:51
often fell asleep while getting a massage and she
28:53
had to be careful about where she was standing
28:55
in relation to his body if he fell asleep
28:57
or he might accidentally hit her. She
29:00
also had to testify to deny allegations
29:02
of a sexual relationship with Tex. I
29:05
will come back to this in a moment. The
29:09
next big mistake Tex made was hiring a PR
29:11
consultant by the name of Bill Crane. He
29:14
made an official statement to the press
29:16
that Tex was alarmed about the recent
29:18
unrest surrounding several Black Lives Matter protests
29:20
in the area and feared that they
29:22
would be Karjack. This
29:25
is the mistake that took this case national.
29:28
Black Lives Matter representatives across the
29:30
country were outraged. In
29:32
fact, there is no evidence that there were protesters
29:34
in that area on the night of September 6th.
29:38
As many people have said, Bill Crane injected
29:41
race into a case where it did not
29:43
belong. I agree to a certain
29:45
extent. First
29:47
of all, Tex McIver denies ever saying this.
29:50
He said Crane made that statement. All
29:52
he had said was that it was a bad area. Crane
29:55
stands by his statement and testified that Tex tried
29:57
to get him to retract the statement. This
30:01
would lead to one of the three charges
30:03
the prosecution indicted Tex for of trying to
30:05
manipulate a witness. The
30:08
other two counts for the same thing were for when
30:10
he asked Danny Jo to lie and say she wasn't
30:12
in the SUV that night, and also for the message
30:14
she left on her husband's voicemail.
30:17
Tex foolishly left the voicemail for Danny Jo's
30:19
husband from jail. This was
30:22
before he made bond. He found out
30:24
that Danny Jo told the police what he had asked
30:26
her to do, and he called her husband to ask
30:28
him to get Danny Jo to stop talking to the
30:30
police. Oh, and he
30:32
also said, delete this message. Except
30:35
all calls coming out of the Fulton County
30:37
Jail are recorded. Foolish
30:40
indeed. And that is what
30:42
I think is Tex McIver's huge problem. He
30:45
was arrogant and foolish. But
30:48
before he had ever even been indicted, he
30:50
made his next huge mistake. Within
30:53
days of Diane's death, he was taking
30:56
inventory of her extensive collection of couture
30:58
clothing, furs, shoes, hats, and
31:00
jewelry. And
31:03
then he auctioned everything off. He
31:05
held three auctions, actually. And
31:07
this is really hard for people to swallow. It
31:10
was tacky. It was unseemly. And
31:13
it definitely looked callous. But
31:16
Diane's estate lawyer actually advised Tex to
31:18
do this until they could liquidate assets
31:20
to cover not only her bequests, but
31:23
other financial issues related to her estate
31:25
and just the wrapping up of her life. But
31:28
still, this looked awful. The
31:32
estate lawyer spoke with AJC and defended
31:34
the advice he gave, saying those
31:36
clothes would depreciate within a year when
31:38
styles change. And also, you
31:40
need to sell winter clothes at the start of winter. Diane
31:43
had 137 fur coats. Auctions
31:47
were held in early December. Okay,
31:50
I get all of that. But
31:52
it's hard to believe that this guy and Tex both thought
31:54
that this was a good idea. But
31:57
then, I think about it this way. said
32:00
it was an accident. I
32:02
don't think he really believed that he would be
32:04
prosecuted, so why not follow the lawyer's
32:06
advice? He
32:08
was not officially charged until December 21st, after
32:12
the auctions, and he was
32:14
charged with involuntary manslaughter and reckless conduct.
32:17
One big point of contention with this auction is
32:20
not only how it looked. There
32:22
were some ruby and diamond pieces that had
32:24
been willed to a friend of Diane's with the
32:26
same birthstone. If he
32:28
was really auctioning to honor requests, why
32:30
would he auction pieces for someone in
32:32
the will? Pieces that she was supposed to get?
32:35
Well, she wasn't supposed to get those pieces.
32:38
According to the AJC in total, there was
32:41
a ruby ring, bracelet, and earrings that brought
32:43
around $18,000 at auction.
32:46
Now that's no small amount, but
32:48
Diane had many other ruby and diamond pieces,
32:50
and in fact, there was a ring, bracelet, and
32:52
earrings valued at more than $100,000 that he did
32:56
not auction. He was saving those
32:58
for her friend. Texas
33:01
Bond was set at $75,000, which he
33:04
quickly made and was out until trial. By
33:07
April, prosecutors served multiple subpoenas
33:09
for the McIver's financial records.
33:12
Now it would seem that the DA's office did not
33:14
agree with the Atlanta PD. They
33:16
didn't believe this was an accident. During
33:19
the search of Texas condo, a Glock pistol
33:21
was found at his sock drawer. This
33:24
was a violation of his bond. He
33:26
had all other firearms removed from the
33:28
condo and ranch except this one. The
33:31
judge revoked Texas bond and then a few days
33:33
later, on April 27, he
33:36
was indicted on a charge of malice murder. Georgia's
33:39
malice murder charge is what many states refer
33:41
to as first degree murder. The
33:44
DA indicted Tex on seven additional
33:46
counts. He was also
33:48
charged with felony murder, which is what
33:50
other states call second degree murder, then
33:52
aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, possession
33:54
of a firearm, and commission of a
33:56
felony. And those three charges of
33:58
trying to influence went into the case. witnesses that I told
34:00
you about. And
34:03
this trial would be dramatic in so many
34:05
ways. For one,
34:07
they had a judge who allowed jurors
34:09
to ask questions throughout the trial, not
34:11
just in deliberations. This
34:13
is highly unusual and something the defense
34:15
attorneys didn't like. If
34:18
the state wasn't making their case clear enough,
34:20
that's on them. This judge
34:22
allowing clarification questions clearly gives the
34:24
prosecution a leg up. Director
34:27
Clint Rucker is one of those preacher
34:29
prosecutors, a natural born
34:32
theatrical speaker. He uses that
34:34
thing where he says something and then repeats it
34:36
for emphasis. He recites poetry
34:38
or scripture. His
34:40
booming voice and lyrical way of speaking
34:42
is very effective in a courtroom. In
34:46
late October of 2017, three days
34:48
before the trial was to begin,
34:50
the prosecution asked for a continuance,
34:52
saying they felt the defense needed
34:54
more time, which was
34:56
some hilarious legal wrangling because the
34:58
defense strongly disputed this. If
35:00
they needed a continuance, they would have asked for
35:02
it. Bill Rankin
35:05
with AJC said that the prosecution was
35:07
actually still looking for evidence to support
35:09
their indictment of malice murder. So
35:12
they put it on hold for four months and then came
35:15
back. The AJC also pointed
35:17
out that they had some 90,000 email
35:19
to go through between Tex and Diane.
35:23
The state's position is that Tex McIver needed,
35:25
not just wanted, his wife's fortune.
35:29
They also brought up the specter of supposed
35:31
affairs he was having, which was
35:33
convenient as it was the reason his ex-wife
35:35
divorced him. But they
35:37
could never find any proof of an affair. Tex
35:40
worshiped his wife. The state brought a
35:42
woman named Annie Anderson to testify. She
35:45
was the masseuse I mentioned earlier. She
35:48
came over and gave massages to Diane
35:50
and Tex regularly. Being
35:52
wealthy people, they didn't make appointments at a
35:55
salon. They had a personal masseuse who
35:57
came to their house. And it's important
35:59
to note that she treated both the Meckivers
36:01
and also considered them close friends, as
36:04
did many of their employees. Annie
36:07
Anderson and Rachel Stiles, Diane's other personal
36:09
assistant, stayed with Tex the first couple
36:11
of days after the shooting because they
36:13
were afraid he would mix up his
36:16
medication and hurt himself. Annie
36:18
slept on the floor in Tex's room. The
36:21
prosecution had a filled day with this. But
36:24
you know what is gross? Their
36:26
godson, Austin, was sleeping in the
36:28
bed with Tex. Were they
36:31
insinuating that he had sex with Annie with
36:33
his godson in the room? For
36:36
her part, Annie Anderson was
36:38
angry and humiliated that this was
36:40
even insinuated. She was
36:42
a professional and this accusation was detrimental
36:44
to her career. And
36:46
what's more, she cared about the Meckivers.
36:49
That is really clear in her testimony.
36:52
But aside from imaginary affairs, all the
36:54
state really had was money. Tex
36:57
wanted Diane's money. As
37:00
I told you, his income had
37:02
drastically decreased. At his age, he
37:04
was no longer an equity partner, but an income
37:06
partner. And his expenses at the ranch
37:09
were exorbitant. And
37:11
it is something he and Diane were talking about.
37:14
In an email the state found, he tells
37:16
her he's trying to reduce his monthly expenses.
37:19
She then playfully suggests that he take over the
37:21
job of his ranch hand at the Pundum County
37:24
Ranch. He says, well, guess it's
37:26
back to being a gigolo. And
37:29
the state thought this was nefarious. The
37:31
defense thought it was playful banter. Yes,
37:34
there were money issues, but Tex still
37:36
made money. And he and Diane were
37:38
both millionaires. They would work it out.
37:41
To me, this sounds very much like playful
37:43
banter. I would hate for a prosecutor
37:45
to see some of the Tex I sent to
37:47
my own husband when joking around. Danny
37:50
Joe Carter was the state's star witness
37:52
at trial. They later even called
37:54
her the MVP. But
37:57
the biggest problem with the state's case is all the
37:59
promises. they made in the opening statement. They
38:02
continued to allude to a second will, a
38:05
will they could never prove existed. It
38:07
was never found. It's why they wanted
38:09
to go through all those emails. And
38:12
when they did find an email talking about
38:15
wills, but nothing was formalized, the
38:17
lawyer who was copied on this email told
38:19
the AJC that drafting a will for people
38:21
is kind of like selling life insurance. Folks
38:24
keep putting this stuff off because they don't want to think
38:26
about it. The lawyer didn't think
38:28
it was fishy at all. And
38:31
yes, the state proves that Tex was ever
38:33
spending and his income had gone down. But
38:36
in reality, Diane made more money than him.
38:39
If he was really worried that much about money,
38:41
it makes more sense for Diane to live. She
38:44
was the breadwinner. And
38:46
every friend agreed that they were in
38:49
love, ridiculously in love, the
38:51
kind of couple who after five years
38:53
of dating and 10 years of marriage
38:55
still held hands all the time. Friends
38:59
turned on text by the time of the trial
39:01
because of his many bad callous looking choices. He
39:04
did auction off her things. And
39:07
he also asked a colleague of hers if he
39:09
would be able to draw her social security benefits.
39:12
This was only a few days after her death. And
39:15
that's the problem with Tex. He not
39:17
only takes bad advice, but he makes bad
39:20
decisions. And none of that
39:22
makes him a murderer. I
39:24
do think he was worried about how he would live out
39:26
his days, how he would maintain
39:29
this lifestyle. And
39:31
he could also just be a greedy bastard. That's
39:33
true. But I don't think he killed her
39:36
over it. She was the one keeping
39:38
him in such a lavish lifestyle to begin with. And
39:41
he adored her. Even friends
39:43
who turned against him couldn't argue with that. It's
39:46
why they found it so shocking. At
39:49
trial, Tex did not take the stand in his
39:51
own defense. I
40:05
am not going to take you gavel to gavel through
40:07
the trial of Tex McIver. I
40:09
would rather point you to the excellent podcast
40:12
breakdown by the AJC that I've already mentioned.
40:15
Their long-form podcast on this case
40:17
covers Texas trial extensively, so
40:20
I will just give you some highlights. There
40:23
were competing firearms experts. One
40:25
sticking point is that no one knows if the gun
40:27
was actually caught. The police didn't
40:29
ask that question right away, and Tex later said
40:31
he couldn't remember. The
40:34
difference is, if it wasn't cocked, it takes
40:36
12 pounds of pressure to pull that trigger.
40:39
If it was cocked, it takes less than 2
40:41
pounds. That makes a lot more
40:43
sense for an accidental shooting. There
40:46
was no way to know for sure, but I am
40:48
willing to bet that after Diane handed Tex the gun,
40:51
he cocked it to be ready and had it sitting
40:53
in his lap, and then he did nod off back
40:55
to sleep. And
40:57
many people have difficulty with this. If
41:00
he was afraid enough to ask for his gun, how
41:02
could he just nod off? To
41:04
this I say, he was 73 years old. He
41:07
had played golf and the Hot Georgia Sun for
41:10
4 hours, and then had been drinking wine. The
41:13
defense also made some really good points about why,
41:15
if he wanted to kill his wife, would he
41:17
do it this way? Why try
41:19
and shoot her in the car, through the seat? There
41:23
was a great chance that the bullet could have ricocheted back
41:25
at him, or get lodged in Diane's
41:27
seat. There is any possible scenario that
41:29
would have made this a strange way to kill
41:31
his wife, the first problem being that he did
41:33
it in front of her best friend. But
41:37
the prosecution did do a good
41:39
job of making Tex out to
41:41
be the entitled, white, rich, politically
41:43
connected man he was. None
41:45
of that is false. It just makes the
41:48
police look bad for not going after him harder in
41:50
the first place. However, I
41:52
don't think the police were going that easy on
41:54
him. The detective on his
41:56
case had worked over 40 malice murder cases
41:58
before. He had an ex- excellent record. He
42:01
had an eyewitness that said it was an accident.
42:04
He had a dying declaration from the victim saying
42:06
it was an accident. I
42:09
will say that they definitely should have brought him in
42:11
for formal questioning that night if for no other reason
42:13
than protocol. If
42:16
his connections helped at all, it was that they
42:18
gave him those couple of days before their formal
42:20
interview. The
42:22
problem was both the prosecution and
42:25
defense went all or nothing in
42:27
closing arguments. Both asked
42:29
the jury not to find him guilty
42:31
of involuntary manslaughter. The
42:34
defense wanted a straight not guilty. This
42:36
was an accident. The
42:38
state wanted premeditated malice murder.
42:42
So the original involuntary manslaughter charge was
42:44
taken off the table. The
42:47
jury could choose malice or felony or
42:49
they could find him not guilty. But that was
42:52
it. During deliberations, the jury kept sending
42:55
out questions that made the defense feel
42:57
pretty good. They didn't seem
42:59
to grasp the legal definition of intent.
43:02
Things were looking pretty good for text, especially
43:05
once the jury sent word that they were
43:07
deadlocked. But the judge gave
43:09
them instructions to keep deliberating and
43:12
then they came back with a confusing verdict. They
43:15
found text guilty of felony murder, aggravated
43:17
assault with a deadly weapon, possession of
43:19
a firearm and commission of a felony
43:22
and witness influencing. The
43:24
reason it's confusing is felony murder is
43:26
like second degree murder. It
43:28
means a person was killed in the commission of another
43:31
felony. In this case, that would
43:33
be the aggravated assault charge, meaning
43:36
there was no actual intent to
43:38
kill Diane, but just to harm her.
43:41
See what I mean by the jury not
43:43
understanding intent. So
43:45
why did they decide this way? With
43:48
the conflicting verdicts, why would
43:50
text shoot Diane unless he meant to kill her?
43:53
The problem here lies in what the jury
43:55
was not allowed to ask. Malice
43:58
murder and felony murder. murder had the same
44:01
punishments, but they were not allowed to
44:03
ask how long Tex would go to prison for these offenses.
44:06
They did ask, but of all the
44:08
questions that this judge allowed, he refused
44:10
this one. And it is a matter
44:12
of law, except in capital cases,
44:15
juries are not to consider punishment during
44:17
their deliberations. Maybe
44:20
they thought that felony murder was a lesser
44:22
charge when in reality, it's basically the same
44:24
in terms of punishment. Tex
44:27
McIver will spend the rest of his natural life in
44:29
prison. He would have if he
44:31
had been convicted of malice murder also. I
44:34
think the defense made a crucial mistake with the all
44:36
or nothing charge to the jury. Typically,
44:39
all types of murder charges are on an
44:41
indictment to give the jury an out if
44:43
they don't believe it was premeditated. It's
44:47
not surprising the prosecution wanted this charge
44:49
removed, but it was the defense who
44:51
really rolled the dice here. This
44:54
is now embroiled in a wrongful death suit
44:56
with Diane's estate, but here's the thing.
44:59
So is Danny Jo Carter. She is
45:01
named in the same suit. The
45:03
suit says that she breached the duty of driving in
45:05
a safe manner at all times, but
45:07
specifically cites her decision not to call
45:09
911 and to drive to an ER
45:12
instead. As
45:14
of May of 2019, the lawsuit hasn't
45:16
been settled. So
45:19
I'm sure by now you guys know what I think. I
45:22
think Tex McIver was guilty of
45:24
involuntary manslaughter due to reckless conduct. I
45:27
do not believe he intended to murder his wife.
45:31
I think he is an old man who had handled
45:33
guns his whole life and never thought something like this
45:35
could happen to him. I
45:37
think it was a horrible tragedy and
45:40
his behavior after the fact was shitty. He
45:43
took bad advice and also made several bad
45:46
choices on his own. He
45:48
really was his own worst enemy. But
45:51
being a dumbass does not make you a murderer. And
45:55
you know what? Maybe race did belong
45:57
in this trial. Regardless of
45:59
whether Tex Tex made the Black Lives Matter comment
46:01
or if it was really his PR guy, the
46:04
specter of race is there. This
46:07
bad spot of town they were stopped at wasn't
46:09
just about homeless people, it was about
46:11
black people. Tex was an
46:13
old white guy. His automatic response
46:15
to this kind of neighborhood is indicative
46:17
of his own racial bias, whether he
46:20
was conscious of it or not. And
46:23
ironically, Diane McIver had donated
46:25
money to the Blue Lives Matter campaign
46:27
in Atlanta. Tex
46:30
may or may not have understood the Black Lives Matter
46:32
movement, but it would seem that his
46:34
wife did. Either
46:37
way, when he awoke on this dark
46:39
street, he didn't feel safe, so
46:41
he said, darling, hand me my gun.
46:45
And Diane McIver handed her husband the gun
46:47
that killed her. Southern
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