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chilling ghost stories. Dad's
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Be Tavern is located on North
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Royal Stream and Old Town Alexandria,
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Virginia and has been in operation
1:59
for. The two centuries. And
2:03
hold a significant place in American
2:05
history as it once served as
2:07
a hub for the social, political
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and economic life of this bustling
2:11
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Proximity to the brand new nation's
2:16
capital. It was frequented by
2:18
some of the United States first
2:20
leaders. Today.
2:24
The Gadsby Staffer Museum consists
2:26
of two can join red brick
2:29
buildings, the first of which
2:31
having been built by Maryland native
2:33
an entrepreneur, Sean Wise and
2:35
Seventeen Eighty Five. It's
2:38
a two storey Georgian colonial
2:40
style structure. That he operated
2:42
under the name City Tavern. Disestablishment
2:45
was so successful, though.
2:48
That. By Seventy Nine Two. Why?
2:50
Started construction on a second building.
2:53
A four story tall structure
2:55
that offer fourteen hotel rooms
2:57
with coal burning fire places,
2:59
several dining rooms, and an
3:02
elaborate ballroom. Then
3:05
by seventeen ninety six as
3:07
the post revolutionary war economy
3:09
began to boom wise, least
3:11
the city tavern to a
3:13
young business. Named. John
3:15
Gadsby. Who quickly turn
3:17
the establishment to the center of
3:20
political and social life for Alexandria.
3:23
Furnishing that with luxury items
3:25
and hosting exquisite balls and
3:27
musical performances that cater to
3:29
the elite. Multiple.
3:33
President's visited the City Tavern
3:35
over the years, including John
3:37
Adams, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison,
3:39
and James Monroe. Most.
3:42
Noteworthy however, with the appearances
3:44
of George Washington. For
3:49
over two centuries, Gadsby Tavern has
3:51
become known. For. Hosting an
3:53
annual celebration. To honor. The
3:56
nation's first president. A. Celebration
3:58
Washington attended him. South
4:00
twice. But
4:08
while Gadsby Tavern continues to
4:11
be celebrated for significance in
4:13
early American history, many who
4:15
visits day do so for
4:17
another reason. You see his
4:20
author Michael We Poke claims
4:22
in his book Ghosts of
4:24
Alexandria this was the setting
4:27
for Alexandria. Most Tories go
4:29
story the legend of the
4:31
female stranger. For
4:46
years. Folks of claim that the
4:48
spirit of a young woman continues
4:50
to haunt the historic tavern after
4:52
her wife came to a tragic
4:54
and two hundred years ago. Is
4:59
a woman whose grave has
5:01
been marked by one of
5:03
the most New Tories headstones
5:05
in Alexandria acknowledging the mysteries
5:07
surrounded are in life and
5:09
now in death. My
5:17
name is Brandon Shack Snyder
5:19
and you will listening to
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Southern Gothic. In
5:49
the autumn of a team sixty,
5:51
a mysterious young Englishman arrived at
5:53
the Port of Alexandria with a
5:55
beautiful young woman who claim to
5:57
be his wife. Unfortunately,
6:02
This woman was incredibly else so.
6:04
The gentleman rented a room at
6:06
Dad's Be Tavern, where with the
6:08
assistance of Mrs. John Wise and
6:10
Mrs. James Stewart, He attempted
6:12
to nurse her back to health. At.
6:19
The mans behest, a cab to
6:21
the utmost secrecy and a couple
6:23
isolated themselves at the tavern and
6:26
room number eight. Hiding their
6:28
identities with such vigor and when
6:30
the woman's condition took a turn
6:32
for the worse, Doctor Samuel Richards
6:34
was call for assistance. A
6:37
physician was paid extra on the
6:39
condition of anonymity. Said.
6:45
Nothing the Doctor Richards did could
6:47
save the poor woman. And
6:50
on October fourteenth, eighteen,
6:52
sixteen, She. Passed away in
6:54
Broome number eight. And
7:02
order to finance his wife's burial, the
7:04
Englishman borrowed a significant amount of money
7:06
from a local merchants name or it's
7:08
Hill. And in exchange gave hill
7:11
and note from the Bank of England. The.
7:14
Gentleman then paid fifteen hundred dollars
7:16
for his wife to be laid
7:18
to rest and the cemetery of
7:20
St. Paul's Episcopal Church A some
7:23
that today amounts to approximately twenty
7:25
three thousand dollars. For
7:27
once that was done, the man
7:30
disappeared just as quickly and suspiciously.
7:32
As he arrived. To
7:36
this day, the identity of that
7:38
young couple remains a mystery. But.
7:41
While the Englishman may have skipped
7:43
town over two centuries ago, The.
7:45
Woman's grave is still there
7:47
at St. Paul's marked by
7:50
an elaborate tabletop tombstone engraved
7:52
with an inscription that is
7:54
fascinated generations of visitors. And
7:57
cemented the tail and to war is one
7:59
of our. Dangerous, most infamous,
8:01
and your bed. You'll understand
8:03
why when you hear what's
8:06
on that headstones. The
8:11
memory of a female stranger
8:13
whose mortal sufferings terminated on
8:15
the fourteenth day of October.
8:17
Eighteen, sixteen. Aged twenty
8:20
three years and eight months.
8:23
This. Stones placed here by disconsolate
8:25
husband and whose arms she sighed
8:27
out her last breath. And who
8:29
wonder God did his utmost. Even
8:31
Sassoon, the cold dead your of
8:34
death. How loved
8:36
are valued once avails the not
8:38
to whom related or by whom
8:40
the got. A heap of
8:42
dust alone remains of the. Tis.
8:44
All thou art and all the proud
8:46
she'll be. To him
8:48
gave all the profits Witness the
8:51
through his name. Whoever believes in
8:53
him shall receive remission of sins.
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Final line of the inscription as
9:02
a direct quote The Bible's Forty
9:04
Third Verse Of Acts Chapter Ten.
9:07
And the second stanza was adapted
9:09
from one of the English writer
9:11
Alexander Pokes most memorable works. Elegy
9:14
to the memory of and
9:16
unfortunately. This
9:19
Bomb which was published and Seventeen
9:21
Seventeen describes a woman who committed
9:23
suicide as a result of heartbreak
9:25
and was then buried in an
9:28
unmarked grave and a foreign land.
9:32
Originally, the female strangers resting
9:34
place was also surrounded by
9:36
an iron railings, another feature
9:38
drawing attention to her, but
9:40
this was stolen some time
9:43
around the early twentieth century.
9:45
The headstone is still there,
9:47
perpetuating that legend for all
9:49
of this time. Course
9:52
Epitaph on the tomb doesn't
9:54
really have much concrete information.
9:57
Curious visitor. So local law
9:59
has. On what it always does.
10:02
And. More time that has passed. The.
10:04
More the wedge and is grown.
10:11
In March of Eighteen, Thirty Four.
10:13
Two decades after the death of
10:15
that beautiful young woman. Story.
10:18
Made it's way into the papers for the
10:20
first time. When. The Alexandria
10:22
Gazette published a romantic home.
10:25
Written. By Susan Rigby Dublin
10:27
Morton. That. Was inspired by
10:29
her visit to St. Paul's
10:31
Graveyard. It
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say was mile. To see air serene
10:39
and spraying as close. Cecile to with
10:41
Crean when I the city fled
10:43
to wander far beyond. it's ten
10:45
and all that busy hans of
10:47
sense and commune with the dead.
10:50
A grows as cedars tall and
10:52
dark. My roving I did first
10:54
remarks and as I neared drill
10:56
I sought to ask the owner's
10:58
name but air I. Could the
11:00
question frame to graveyards? Let
11:03
my feel. Once I approached
11:05
and many it's him a amidst
11:07
the place of gloom to tell
11:09
the sleepers name a child here
11:11
sleeps appearance say are some died
11:14
of aids, some young and Sas
11:16
and all a tear did claim.
11:19
That one above the rest
11:21
appeared by careful lands a
11:23
reared which iron rails and
11:25
close I nearer drew towards
11:27
that place and i the
11:29
epitaph my trace and tell
11:31
who they are repos. To.
11:34
To was marbles rounded grew
11:36
young trees are worn and
11:38
leafless to and looking much
11:40
like whoa from all the
11:42
other crates apart the seemed
11:45
have some sad broken heart.
11:47
The last retreat below. The
11:50
nice to see mail stranger slept no record
11:52
of her name was. Kept upon the
11:54
marble least. Seven Scripts
11:56
and know accounts supplied. Save this
11:58
a tenant list. Died and was
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a child. His crease. Her
12:03
days were numbered their tis
12:05
true, but they were briefly
12:07
told and few and as
12:09
there's some I cast My
12:11
fiancee swiftly wandered back to
12:13
the dark scenes of Last
12:15
One Track, through which perchance
12:17
she passed. But
12:20
no seduce show proof could
12:22
I from wilde conjectures fields
12:24
applies to cast on truth
12:26
one ray and with the
12:28
super breast I left the
12:30
strangers place of rest said
12:32
dreamless bed of clay. Sleep
12:35
Strangers sleep may not presume
12:38
within bias hand to raise
12:40
say to him or which
12:42
dark mystery ways and throws
12:45
an interest in xy lot
12:47
which seems to concentrate the
12:49
spot and from oblivion sais
12:52
my fiancee off south of
12:54
are frowned the silent grassy
12:56
nameless mound the female strangers
12:58
to. And in the
13:01
mourns at weeks said just I
13:03
hope to see thy sleeping dust
13:05
or rise in glorious bloom. Morgan.
13:16
Was clearly a numbered by the tomb
13:18
of the female stranger story that went
13:20
with it. So. Much so
13:22
that two years later, and eighteen,
13:24
thirty, six. She. Brought it
13:26
out to national audience in a
13:28
column she wrote for the Philadelphia
13:31
Saturday Courier under the pseudonym. Lucy.
13:33
See more. For.
13:37
The most part, what she reported
13:40
was what is now considered the
13:42
traditional telling of the tail: Mysterious
13:44
man arrives with a wife who
13:46
was deathly ill. But
13:48
Morgan also added the fact that many
13:51
of the locals claim to have found
13:53
the young man disingenuous. And they
13:55
had a feeling that the man might
13:57
not actually been woman's husband. The
14:00
suspicion actually seem to be warranted as
14:03
well, because And eighteen Forty Eight, the
14:05
legend made an appearance in a number
14:07
of newspapers all across the country. From.
14:10
New Orleans in Atlanta,
14:12
Chicago and Baltimore. And
14:14
in response to some of the and accuracies
14:16
that made it's way into this national reporting.
14:19
The Alexandria Gazette published an
14:22
article on September fifteenth. Eighteen,
14:24
Forty Eight. Written. By an
14:26
individual who quote. Distinctly. Recollects,
14:29
the to distinguish strangers
14:31
visited Alexandria about the
14:33
time mention. That's
14:36
right, this article was written
14:38
by someone who remembers when
14:40
the events actually happened. And
14:42
he goes on to claim that everyone knew the
14:44
gentleman's name. And was claremont.
14:47
And Claremont was quote a
14:49
remarkably genteel looking, affable man.
14:52
And. In company was a steamed
14:54
for his social qualities and
14:56
conversational hours. But.
15:00
Y'all as you can expect from a
15:02
pretty man with a charming personality who
15:04
shroud and himself and so much mystery
15:07
and disappeared as quickly as he came.
15:09
Claremont. Turned out to be a crook. Of
15:12
fact discovered by the man who went
15:14
to money Lawrence Hill. Who. Eventually
15:16
caught up to him while visiting New
15:18
York when he discovered that Claremont had
15:21
been imprisoned at the Sing Sing Prison.
15:23
For. None other than forgery. Arriving
15:29
at the prison it was soon
15:31
ushered into the presence of a
15:33
genteel and polished Mister Claremont for
15:35
me. found with a shaved head
15:38
and visually employed and making shoes.
15:41
Or for a little preliminary
15:43
conversation the versus said Mr.
15:45
Claire months the bills which
15:47
gave me were overturned protested
15:49
your conduct is most inexplicable.
15:52
A convict cool He replied.
15:54
oh indeed. Well it was
15:56
probably owing to some and
15:59
formality. It will give me pleasure
16:01
to furnish you with others in their stead.
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Unfortunately, this was the last
16:10
that anyone ever heard from
16:12
Claremont. And as you
16:14
might expect, Lawrenceville was never repaid
16:17
for that fraudulent bill from the
16:19
Bank of England. Or. What
16:21
is most interesting of all about this
16:23
article in the encounter is if this
16:25
was in fact the Englishman who arrived
16:28
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16:30
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Years, the legend of the
19:37
female strangers captivated folks, fueled
19:39
by much speculation as to
19:41
who she might have been.
19:43
A mystery made even more
19:45
intrigued by the new Tories
19:47
headstone accompanied her Graze. Some
19:50
claim that the woman may have
19:52
been in Napoleonic princess who fled
19:55
her country out of fear of
19:57
the political conditions in France. Others
20:00
that the couple were notorious con artists
20:02
who work their way up and down
20:04
the port cities of the Eastern Seaboard.
20:09
On. June Second: Eighty Ninety Eight,
20:11
Washington D. Sees Evening Star
20:13
added to the mystery reporting
20:16
that an elderly couple had
20:18
recently visited Alexandria to pay
20:20
their respects to the female
20:22
stranger who the woman claimed
20:24
was a relative of hers.
20:29
Survey. Last to lady and
20:31
gentleman Visited St. Paul Cemetery. Where
20:33
the female strangers remains or a third.
20:36
And inquired of superintendent a manual
20:38
live in regards. To to. A
20:41
lady stated that the stranger was a connection
20:43
of hers and as she was the wife
20:45
of a British officer who would marry her
20:47
and opposition to the wishes of his family.
20:50
The. Officer his wife never returned to
20:53
England, but he left Alexandria after
20:55
the burial of his wife and
20:57
way to France. The. Lazy
20:59
and form Superintendent Web that in the
21:01
near future she will return to Alexandria
21:04
and impart to him a history of
21:06
the incident. Unfortunately
21:10
than elderly lady never returned
21:12
and to this day none
21:15
of the purported facts that
21:17
she told Superintendent Web. Been
21:19
corroborated. Of
21:23
course of the many theories, the one
21:26
that has received the most attention was
21:28
the one we discussed on or a
21:30
last episode of Southern Gothic been doing
21:32
mystery of the A Dose uber Alston.
21:36
On. December Thirty first, Eighteen, Twelve.
21:39
Almost four years before the
21:41
mysterious couple arrived in Alexandria.
21:44
The. Those uber Alston left Georgetown,
21:46
South Carolina on a ship name
21:48
Patriot, headed for New York to
21:51
see her father, a former Vice
21:53
President, Aaron Burr. Schooner
21:56
was known for it's speed, and during
21:58
the war of eighteen twelve, it. In
22:00
commissioned as a privateer vessel by
22:02
the United States government. Falling
22:05
it's service, The Patriot was refitted
22:07
for civilian activities in this trip.
22:09
was it's first in this capacity.
22:11
But unfortunately after leaving court with
22:14
the a dosa it was never
22:16
seen again and no sign of
22:18
The Patriot for anyone a board
22:20
has ever been recovered. Now,
22:30
as we discussed in that episode,
22:33
many have speculated that the ship
22:35
was captured by pirates, fueling the
22:37
possibility that Austin could have been
22:39
sacked, survived and ended up in
22:42
Alexandria years later. But.
22:44
As you now know, it's much more
22:46
likely that the ship was caught in
22:48
a vicious storm that a developed off
22:50
the coast of South Carolina and we
22:53
days afterwards departure. Yet
22:58
the wage and persists. His
23:08
suggestion is to see a Ddos you're
23:11
being a female stranger was first made
23:13
public in September of Eighteen Sixty six.
23:16
And an article published in a
23:18
number of newspapers all across the
23:20
country Title and Old Virginia Town
23:22
I: Frank George Carpenter. But
23:26
while this is certainly a romantic
23:28
theory isn't even more. While Taleban
23:30
bad and it comes from a
23:33
book published back and eighteen sixty
23:35
six under the title History of
23:37
Alexandria including the narrative of John
23:39
Trust. And the Alexandria
23:42
Gazette described it as a quote:
23:44
weird but clever. An interesting little
23:46
book. The. Relied more on
23:48
romantic language and in Sri
23:50
in fact itself. The.
23:54
Work contends that the woman buried
23:56
in St. Paul's was an orphaned
23:58
woman named Blanche for. Who.
24:00
Was adopted and raised by John
24:03
Trust and John Row after fleeing
24:05
Paris for Martinique. And
24:07
the process of romantic relationship developed
24:10
between trust and the woman and
24:12
robot came jealous. so he purportedly
24:14
cast a spell on the girl
24:16
and with her off to America
24:18
on a ship headed for Alexandria.
24:21
Married her on the way. Well,
24:25
what followed was a tragic
24:27
account that included a confrontation
24:29
between the man. Who would
24:31
then revealed to be twin brothers.
24:37
And y'all as the Alexandria
24:40
Gazette claimed a historical accuracy
24:42
of the stories pretty dubious,
24:44
but it's fanciful claim that
24:46
the female stranger was buried
24:48
anonymously. Spare her the see
24:51
the stigma of incest. Or
25:01
never actually know the identity of
25:03
the female stranger. Some have claimed
25:05
that her spirit remains alive and
25:08
well and Old Town Alexandria. Gets
25:12
pissed. Average seems to be the spot
25:14
where most claim to see her as
25:16
a multitude of purported sightings of come
25:18
from folks walking by who said that
25:20
they saw for apparition through the window
25:23
of room number eight. Or. Her
25:25
life came to. It's tragic and.
25:28
Visitors to the tavern have
25:30
falsely claimed encounters within the
25:32
building itself, and they always
25:34
seem to describe her apparition
25:36
as appearing and antiquated clothing
25:38
and holding a candle. L
25:48
Be Tailored junior author of over
25:50
two dozen books on Virginia ghost
25:53
stories Road of such an encounter
25:55
in his two thousand and nine
25:57
work Haunted Virginia Ghosts and Strange.
26:00
The nominal of the Old Dominion. A
26:06
mysterious woman's most notable a clear and
26:08
stay morning have been a few years
26:11
ago when a man says he saw
26:13
her in the Tavern Ballroom he followed
26:15
her upstairs to what had been her
26:17
bedroom for she disappeared. It was dark
26:20
but in a corner of the room
26:22
was a little handle and a hurricane
26:24
while he picked it up and search
26:26
the premises but found nothing. Then it
26:29
dawned on him what was lit candle
26:31
doing in a deserted room. He
26:33
race downstairs and got the tavern manager
26:36
to go back up with him when
26:38
they got they are not only was
26:40
the candle not with with a week
26:42
was still with as if it had
26:45
never been like the manager thought the
26:47
man either was setting things are and
26:49
imbibed too much that time as he
26:51
left the room to man who had
26:53
witnessed the apparition self the lap birds
26:56
his fingers. Taylor's.
27:03
Account of the spirit of the female stranger
27:05
is a com and one. But.
27:07
Alexandria based author and journalist Michael
27:10
We Pope wrote about what he
27:12
believes is the most chilling sighting
27:14
of all this book. Ghosts.
27:17
Of Alexandria. Some.
27:21
Times the shadowy figures appeared and
27:23
disappeared, and other times strange noises
27:25
were heard in the middle of
27:28
the nine. The
27:30
most votes who is poo citing happened
27:32
during one of the balls that take
27:34
place each year in a store the
27:37
ballroom. When. George Washington was
27:39
celebrated his last birthday and
27:41
seventeen Ninety Nine. This
27:44
was one of those events where
27:46
people get dressed up as they
27:48
did in Washington, steady and eat
27:51
all of Washington spurred foods and
27:53
do Washington's favorite dances. Suddenly.
27:56
One man. So woman. Who
27:58
have to little last place? She
28:01
was not wearing the kind of clothing
28:03
their woman my were in the eighteenth
28:05
century. She. Was wearing the
28:07
clothing. That a woman might were.
28:10
In the early eighteen hundreds. About
28:13
the time the steam no stranger
28:15
die. And room number eight. Today,
28:29
the historic As Be Tavern
28:32
continues to not only serves
28:34
restaurant but is also operated
28:36
as the Gatsby Taverns under
28:38
the ownership of the City
28:40
of Alexandria. At
28:42
fallen into disrepair in the early
28:45
twentieth century a phase the buildings
28:47
in question but numerous organizations have
28:50
played a role and renovating the
28:52
historic property and as a result
28:54
in was placed on the National
28:57
Register of Historic Places in Nineteen
28:59
Seventy Five. But
29:04
as for whether or not the
29:06
spirit of them mysterious woman still
29:08
there and room them great? Well
29:10
that's up for you to visit.
29:13
To decide. My
29:19
name is Brandon Check snyder. And
29:22
you been listening? To. Southern Gothic.
29:33
Southern. Gothic as an independent
29:35
podcast produced by Southern Gothic
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Media. This episode was
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originally researched and written by Brie and
29:41
Shack Snyder and updated by Brand and
29:43
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