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Gothic is a podcast that explores

1:13

the history behind some of the

1:15

American South's darkest days, greatest

1:17

mysteries, and most chilling ghost

1:19

stories. On

1:43

March 28, 1841,

1:45

Dorothea Dix visited the East

1:47

Cambridge Jail in Cambridge, Massachusetts,

1:50

and discovered that to her horror,

1:52

many of the people locked away

1:54

in this facility were not actually

1:56

criminals. Rather, they

1:59

suffered from many. mental illness. The

2:03

40-year-old teacher and writer was there

2:06

because she had been hired to

2:08

teach Sunday school classes at prisons

2:10

and almshouses, but to her surprise,

2:12

these individuals who were not guilty

2:15

of anything more than being sick

2:17

or unwanted were living

2:19

in dingy, unhygienic cells next

2:21

to violent felons, often

2:24

starving from a lack of food and

2:27

in some cases, even beaten

2:29

and chained. Well,

2:31

after seeing this, she began traveling

2:34

across the state visiting a number

2:36

of other jails and over and

2:38

over again she discovered the same

2:40

thing. Folks in need

2:42

of help, locked away for no reason at

2:44

all, forced to exist in

2:46

a wretched environment. So,

2:49

at each stop she chronicled what

2:51

she saw and eventually reported back

2:53

to the state legislature her findings,

2:55

hoping they would do something about

2:57

the system that had failed these

2:59

citizens. In

3:03

the jail, one lunatic woman

3:05

furiously mad, a state pauper

3:07

improperly situated both in regard

3:09

to the prisoners, the keepers

3:11

and herself. It

3:14

is a case of extreme self-forgetfulness

3:16

and oblivion to all the decencies

3:18

of life, to describe

3:20

which would be to repeat only the grossest

3:22

scenes. She is much

3:25

worse since leaving Wurchester. In

3:27

the almshouse of the same town

3:29

is a woman apparently only needing

3:31

judicious care and some well-chosen employment

3:33

to make it unnecessary to confine

3:36

her in solitude, in a

3:38

dreary, unfurnished room. Her

3:40

appeals for employment and companionship

3:42

are most touching, but the

3:44

mistress replied she had no time to

3:47

attend to her. Or

3:52

Thea Dix's crusade to reform the way

3:54

we treated our mentally ill did

3:56

not stop in her home state of Massachusetts.

4:00

In 1854, she successfully lobbied

4:02

the United States Congress, who passed

4:04

a mental health reform bill. And

4:06

although this was ultimately vetoed by

4:08

the president, Dix's campaign

4:11

had already paved the way

4:13

for establishing facilities specifically for

4:15

mental health all across

4:17

the country, starting a

4:20

new era for psychiatry in

4:22

America. Unfortunately,

4:35

while the growing number of mental health

4:38

facilities offered hope to many, in

4:40

reality, most quickly became

4:42

places just as horrific as

4:44

the prisons that Dorothea Dix

4:47

had visited years before. Overcrowded

4:50

and unhygienic, lacking

4:52

both hope and resources, and worst

4:54

of all, engaging in

4:57

barbaric treatments that did more

4:59

harm than good. Facilities

5:02

like the now infamous

5:04

Trans-Allegheny Lunatic Asylum in

5:06

West Virginia that

5:08

folks believe is filled with

5:11

souls of people who once

5:13

lived there. My

5:18

name is Brandon Schechtsnider, and

5:20

you are listening to Southern

5:22

Gothic. The

5:46

Trans-Allegheny Lunatic Asylum in West Virginia

5:48

has become quite the landmark for

5:51

folks interested in the paranormal. And

5:53

if you were to drive up

5:56

to this immense Gothic structure today

5:58

and see those tall spires, long

6:00

hospital wings and shadowed windows, you

6:03

probably understand why it has attracted all

6:05

this attention. After all, if

6:08

I were to ask you to imagine what

6:10

a haunted insane asylum looks like, there's

6:13

a good chance you'd picture this. A

6:16

sinister looking time capsule from an era

6:18

of mental health care, when patients

6:20

treatments far too often resembled

6:23

torture rather than compassionate

6:25

aid. But

6:29

even though so much tragedy and death

6:31

has taken place here within these historic

6:33

walls, at its conception,

6:36

the asylum was intended to be a

6:38

welcoming facility that offered hope to

6:40

its patients. It was one

6:42

of dozens of facilities built in the

6:44

second half of the 19th century, meant

6:46

to actually help patients rather than hide

6:48

them. All of which

6:50

based on the design and philosophy

6:53

of a man named Thomas Story

6:55

Kirkbride. Although

6:57

a surgeon by trade, Dr.

6:59

Kirkbride advocated for what he

7:01

called moral treatment for psychiatric

7:04

patients. Treatment done

7:06

in an environment that provided nurturing

7:08

care and social activity rather

7:11

than one with restraints and barbaric

7:13

therapies, at least as they

7:15

saw it during the time. To

7:18

promote this practice and philosophy, in

7:21

1854, while he was serving as

7:23

the chief physician of the Pennsylvania Hospital

7:25

of the Insane, Kirkbride

7:27

published a paper with the title on

7:30

the construction, organization, and general

7:32

arrangements of hospitals for the

7:34

insane with some remarks on

7:37

insanity in its treatment. You

7:41

see, unlike many of his contemporaries and

7:43

physicians of the past, Kirkbride

7:45

believed that folks with psychiatric conditions

7:47

could be cured. But

7:49

to do this, he felt they needed to be

7:51

somewhere other than their home, a

7:54

facility designed to influence therapeutic

7:56

outcomes. As

7:58

a result, Kirkbride. The islands began to

8:01

spring up all over the country. They

8:03

were immense facilities that primarily

8:06

featured a central administration building

8:08

with numerous long wings branching

8:10

outward, allowing fresh air and

8:13

sunlight into the space. According

8:16

to Kirkbride guideline, each wing

8:18

woodhouse a separate ward and would

8:20

contain it's own quote. Comfortably

8:22

furnished area. Like. A parlor,

8:25

bathroom codes room, an infirmary,

8:27

as well as speaking tubes

8:29

in a dumbwaiter to allow

8:31

for open communication and movement

8:33

between the force. He

8:36

also recommended that patient rooms be

8:38

spacious, with ceilings quote at least

8:40

twelve feet high. But. They

8:42

were meant to only be large enough for a

8:45

single person to reside with their. Most.

8:48

Of all, though, he meant for

8:50

these facilities to be located amidst

8:52

a fertile and spacious landscape of

8:54

at least one hundred acres. Allowing

8:56

patients the chance to see

8:59

life and have the opportunity

9:01

for outdoor exercise therapy. This

9:06

is with the Trans Allegheny Lunatic

9:09

Asylum was intended to be. When.

9:11

It's construction began and eighteen, Fifty

9:13

eight. Officially,

9:18

the building wouldn't be entirely complete

9:20

until Eighteen Eighty One. Primarily.

9:23

A result of Civil War. But.

9:25

In eighteen, sixty Four, a group

9:27

of nine women were the first

9:29

patients admitted to the hospital. Edward

9:33

Gleason, a historian for the

9:35

Asylum, described these early years

9:37

in his book Lunatic The

9:39

Rise and Fall as an

9:41

American Asylum. In

9:47

the winter of a team

9:49

sixty six, there were forty

9:52

five patients and residents. They

9:54

occupied the finished and southernmost

9:56

weighing along with the superintendents

9:58

to several employees therapy. Since

10:00

of all ages and types of

10:02

insanity, one a year old boy

10:04

was unceremoniously dumped to the train

10:07

station and Clarksburg base Mother. She

10:09

said he had been insane since

10:11

age three. The oldest

10:14

patient was ninety three. Tragically,

10:21

while administrators and physicians had

10:23

the best intentions, The.

10:25

West and Hospital turned out to be

10:28

not much different than other asylum of

10:30

the time as a quickly became a

10:32

place not just for the treatment of

10:34

the mentally ill or insane. But.

10:37

Also a sort of dumping ground

10:39

for society. Son wanted population. People

10:42

who didn't necessarily need psychiatric

10:44

tears. We understand it. But.

10:47

Whose family? She did not want to deal

10:49

with them anymore. As

10:51

such, the hospitals first log book

10:54

includes a pretty wide variety of

10:56

reasons listed for admission into the

10:58

hospital. Including but not

11:00

limited to grief. Brain.

11:03

Congestion feebleness of

11:05

intellect seduction. Asthma.

11:08

Laziness, egotism, domestic

11:10

troubles, greediness, religious

11:12

enthusiasm, men a

11:14

pause, superstition, and

11:16

even novel reading.

11:19

So. Y'all not that surprising that

11:22

given the vast and varied

11:24

reasons how and why people

11:26

ended up here, it take

11:28

long for the number of

11:30

patients the facility to far

11:32

exceed the number of available staff

11:34

and beds. In fact,

11:36

by the time of the hospitals

11:39

official completion and Eighteen Eighty one.

11:41

Was already have three hundred percent

11:43

capacity. With. More than seven hundred

11:46

patients house in a building that was

11:48

designed to hold two hundred fifty. And.

11:51

Yes, this number continue to

11:53

grow. Each and every

11:55

year. And.

12:00

Nineteen Thirteen, the Asylum was

12:03

renamed Western State Hospital and

12:05

included additional buildings to help

12:07

accommodate the ever growing patient

12:10

population. This included

12:12

a geriatric center of greenhouse

12:14

for additional food or tuberculosis

12:17

sanitarium, and of course a

12:19

morgue. By. Nineteen Thirty

12:21

Eight, there were one thousand, six

12:24

hundred, sixty one patients house there.

12:27

Is crowding was so bad that

12:30

in Nineteen Twenty seven. And. Investigation

12:32

discovered that there were only three

12:34

attendance for every sixty five patients.

12:37

And. Only three doctors for every

12:39

thirteen hundred patients. And.

12:42

In Thirty Eight, a report by

12:44

a group of North American medical

12:46

organizations found that among It's patients.

12:49

The hospital housed quote. Epileptics,

12:51

alcoholics, drug addicts and

12:53

non edge A couple

12:55

mental defective. So

13:00

wife inside the hospital was

13:02

off graham. Matter how you look

13:04

at it. And. In Nineteen

13:06

Forty Nine, with the patient

13:09

population over eighteen hundred overcrowding

13:11

a quote reach to crisis

13:13

level. Superintendent Doctor

13:15

Joseph Nap allowed journalists from the

13:18

Charleston Gazette to come and see

13:20

the Asylum. And. Would they found

13:22

was downright awful. Greece.

13:24

And rights. Patients

13:27

were sleeping and halls and com

13:30

and areas brews intended for productive

13:32

activities are forced to become dorms

13:34

with dozens of bags only a

13:36

few feet apart, there was only

13:39

one toilet available for sixty patients,

13:41

and a lavatory covered with pools

13:43

of malodorous water. Only one attended

13:46

was available to care for this

13:48

group, many of whom are not

13:50

able or not willing to control

13:52

their bodily functions. gallons

13:55

of disinfectants cannot mask the

13:57

terrible odor the inmates huddle

13:59

lunch chairs and benches rocking

14:01

back and forth are pacing

14:03

aimlessly up and down the

14:05

dark dingy hallways. Aside

14:10

from the poor sanitation, the hospital

14:12

had insufficient furniture and lighting and

14:14

lacked heat in much of the

14:16

complex. Patients

14:19

were crammed into rooms with up to

14:21

eight sleeping in a space meant for

14:23

one while other patients had to sleep

14:25

on hallway floors due to a lack

14:27

of sufficient bedding supplies. That

14:30

same year award for the

14:32

quote, criminally insane was constructed

14:34

behind the main building to

14:37

help separate dangerous offenders from

14:39

the hospital's general population. But

14:42

this facility kept far away from the

14:44

center of the hospital with the

14:46

most ghastly. Edward

14:49

Gleason claims that this wasn't the fault of

14:51

the folks in charge though. It was

14:54

a deeper systemic issue that was occurring

14:56

all over the country. The

14:59

deplorable conditions cannot be blamed on the

15:01

people running the asylum. The

15:03

state was unable to provide the much needed

15:05

funding. Nothing short of a miracle

15:08

would help. The directors thought

15:10

that they had it with the

15:12

advent of a radical surgical procedure

15:14

developed in Europe called a leucotomy.

15:21

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15:23

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15:25

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your podcasts. For

17:24

years the patients at Weston State

17:27

Hospital were subjected to an abundance

17:29

of harsh medical treatments and sometimes

17:31

even experiments that would supposedly cure

17:33

them of their ills but

17:36

as we know now did not help. This

17:40

included everything from ice

17:42

water baths, electroconvulsive shock

17:44

therapy and sometimes even

17:46

forced sterilizations. But

17:48

of course none of these treatments are

17:50

even remotely as notorious as

17:52

the lobotomy. A horrific

17:55

surgical procedure meant to separate the

17:57

frontal cortex of the brain and

18:00

in order to prevent impulsive, violent,

18:02

or otherwise unwanted behaviors in

18:04

a patient. That's

18:07

right, with a lobotomy, that

18:09

basically drill a hole in a

18:11

patient's skull to make them more

18:14

docile and controllable. Today,

18:17

the procedure's widespread use is widely

18:19

regarded as a dark chapter in

18:22

the history of psychiatry. A

18:24

grim example of how inadequate

18:27

understanding mental health and biology,

18:29

as well as a lack of ethical

18:32

considerations, could lead to

18:34

truly harmful medical practices. But

18:37

when the lobotomy was developed in the

18:39

late 19th and early 20th

18:41

centuries, during a

18:44

time when drug therapies just did not

18:46

exist, the practice was

18:48

widely hailed as a breakthrough in the

18:50

treatment of mental illness. Well,

18:54

in 1948, Dr. Walter Freeman, the first doctor

18:57

to perform the procedure in America, came to

18:59

Weston State Hospital to head up the West

19:01

Virginia Lobotomy Project, which

19:04

was crudely referred to by some as Operation

19:06

Icepeck. There,

19:09

he performed or directly supervised at

19:12

least 70 of these procedures, using

19:15

his own transorbitolar, quote, icepeck

19:17

technique. You

19:20

see, unlike the more common method of prefrontal lobotomies

19:23

that involved drilling through the skull, the

19:26

transorbital that Freeman did was even more gruesome.

19:31

And y'all, feel free to skip ahead if you don't

19:33

want to hear me describe it. It is

19:35

quite grim. What Freeman did was he

19:37

placed a slender rod into

19:40

the corner of each eye socket and then struck

19:42

them with a metal knife. The

19:45

instrument was then moved in a

19:47

methodical sequence to sever connective tissue

19:50

in the brain's prefrontal cortex. Now,

19:54

let's see what he did. if

20:00

that isn't bad enough, would made it even worse,

20:03

was that he didn't provide patients with

20:05

anesthesia. They were rendered unconscious

20:07

through the use of electroconvulsive

20:09

shock treatment, meant to induce

20:12

a seizure. At the

20:14

time, they believed the result of this

20:16

would relieve some of the patient's more

20:18

severe symptoms, but in reality,

20:20

the extensive permanent brain damage

20:23

the lobotomy caused was more

20:25

likely to straight up alter

20:27

an individual's personality entirely. and

20:30

greatly limit their ability to function. While

20:36

only four patients died as a

20:38

direct result of complications from lobotomies

20:40

at Weston State, those

20:42

who survived were afflicted with

20:44

lifelong cognitive and physical deficits

20:46

that would require them to

20:48

have constant care for basic

20:50

needs. Fortunately,

20:53

in the 50s, the quote,

20:56

ice pick era came to an

20:58

end with the development of psychotropic

21:00

drugs. Yet

21:03

it wasn't for several more decades

21:05

until the 1980s when changes in

21:07

the treatment of mental illness really

21:10

started to impact psychiatric care in

21:12

a truly positive way, significantly

21:14

reducing the populations of

21:16

facilities like Weston State. But

21:20

even so, the conditions in the

21:22

hospital never really improved. And

21:24

in 1985, the Charleston Gazette once

21:27

again exposed the hospital's practices when

21:29

they reported that court-appointed inspectors found

21:32

the place to be, quote, dirty

21:35

and unkempt with many

21:37

patients left naked, confined

21:39

to dirty wards with bathrooms

21:41

smeared with feces. So

21:45

as a result, the next year,

21:47

West Virginia Governor Arch Moore announced

21:49

plans to build a new psychiatric

21:51

facility elsewhere and convert the

21:54

Weston State Hospital into a prison. Now,

21:57

of course, this conversion never materialized,

21:59

but But a new psychiatric

22:01

facility was opened and

22:03

the Weston State Hospital was closed

22:05

permanently in May of 1994. Tragically,

22:17

during the hospital's 130 years of operation, it's

22:22

unknown how many souls died within its

22:24

walls, whether due to

22:26

barbaric practices, neglect, or natural

22:28

causes, but most estimate

22:31

the number to be around 20,000. Chillingly,

22:35

there are several cemeteries on the

22:37

property where thousands of these

22:40

patients were buried in unmarked graves. At

22:43

one point, the state of West Virginia

22:45

attempted to exhume and identify the remains

22:48

interred there, but the endeavor

22:50

was discontinued after over 4,000

22:52

individuals were found in the

22:54

site, making it a

22:56

truly daunting task. Well,

23:00

then, after over a decade of sitting

23:03

abandoned, the immense building was sold

23:05

at auction in 2007 for

23:09

$1.5 million and then opened

23:11

for tours with the revenue

23:13

largely going to building maintenance,

23:15

as the new owners

23:17

truly wanted to preserve

23:19

it for its historical

23:21

significance. And yes, it

23:23

was at this time that they decided to start calling it by its original

23:26

name, the

23:28

Trans-Allegheny Lunatic Asylum. After

23:31

all, y'all, that's good marketing, and

23:34

if they're gonna take care of this massive historic structure,

23:36

they need folks to come and visit. Today,

23:46

the main building known as the Kirkbride

23:48

houses a museum on its first floor,

23:51

showcasing various aspects of the hospital's history.

23:55

It includes several rooms,

23:57

each with its own unique focus. One

24:01

is dedicated to the display of

24:03

patient artwork, a testament to the

24:05

therapeutic programs once conducted here, and

24:08

another offers a glimpse into

24:10

the diverse medical treatments used in

24:12

the past, featuring artifacts

24:14

such as a straitjacket and

24:16

a hydrotherapy tub. Notably,

24:19

two of the rooms have been

24:21

meticulously restored to reflect their appearances

24:24

in two distinct eras, one

24:27

as it would have looked in the 1870s, and the other as it

24:29

was in the 1960s. As

24:34

for the rest of the asylum, well,

24:37

it stands in stark contrast to this

24:39

portion of the facility, as

24:42

it includes nearly two miles

24:44

of untouched, decaying hallways and

24:46

vacant rooms, eerily

24:48

echoing the passage of time and

24:51

the evolution of mental health care. So,

24:55

as you can expect, many

24:57

who take the trip out to

25:00

the Trans-Allegheny Lunatic Asylum do

25:02

so in the hopes of experiencing

25:04

something paranormal there, some

25:07

type of spiritual remnant of the

25:09

horrors that occurred on this property.

25:14

Now, obviously, as I said, the current

25:16

owners capitalize on this legacy as a

25:18

way to maintain the facility, but

25:20

they weren't the first to claim that it was haunted.

25:23

It said the stories of restless

25:25

spirits and tortured souls within the

25:28

building began long before

25:30

the hospital ceased its operations. These

25:34

spirits purportedly come from almost

25:36

every era of the asylum's

25:38

history, ranging from the

25:40

Civil War soldiers who once camped on

25:43

the grounds as the building was being

25:45

constructed, to children, former

25:47

patients, and staff. Some

25:51

have reported seeing ghostly figures walking

25:53

through the hallways at night, or

25:55

glimpses of shadows moving in the corner of

25:58

their eyes. Others

26:00

have claimed to see a ball of

26:02

light moving in a hallway or figures

26:04

dressed in white. And of

26:07

course there are the continued reports

26:09

of disembodied sounds like

26:11

the spectral wheels of gurney squeaky

26:13

as they roll down the empty

26:15

corridors. The

26:24

first floor of the Kirkbride building is the

26:26

oldest part of the hospital and

26:28

is sent to be the home of a former

26:30

patient named Ruth. In

26:33

life, Ruth loathed men, regularly

26:35

throwing things at them when they approached.

26:39

Some believe that her spirit continues to

26:41

feel this way as it lingers in

26:43

the hallway, with male visitors claiming

26:45

to feel as if they have been pushed

26:47

against the walls by an unseen

26:49

force. Some also

26:52

say they hear her whistling as

26:54

they walk by. As

27:05

if the overcrowding and treatments that we

27:07

described earlier weren't bad enough, over

27:10

the years violence was also an

27:12

unfortunate byproduct of patients with a

27:15

wide variety of mental conditions. And

27:18

on the second floor there are said to

27:20

be the spirits of several individuals involved

27:22

in some awfully heinous acts.

27:28

In one room, a patient was stabbed 17

27:30

times by another, and purportedly

27:33

one of them remains there today in

27:35

the form of a shadow figure. And

27:39

yet another room are the lingering

27:41

souls of men who committed suicide

27:43

by hanging themselves from curtain rods.

27:47

Folks who visit this room often

27:49

feel as if the second they

27:51

walk in, they're overcome with anguish

27:53

or grief, Some going

27:55

so far as to report feeling

27:57

suffocated by the darkness. And.

28:01

Addition: Rebecca Jordan Gleason be

28:03

Operations Manager and owner of

28:05

the Asylum. Recently. Uncovered

28:07

documentation about the suicide of a

28:10

woman. Named. Jane Harvey. And

28:12

the reason she went looking for

28:14

this documentation. Was. Because paranormal

28:17

investigators had collected evidence of

28:19

a spirits voice identify in

28:22

itself is Jane. Get!

28:28

The most recently infamous spot on the property

28:30

is a space that has come to be

28:32

called The Bed Both Smarter Room. And

28:35

may have twenty nine seen

28:37

an episode of Discovery Networks

28:40

Portals to Hell feature of

28:42

The Asylum and Gleason told

28:44

host Katrina Weidman, Jack Osborne.

28:46

About the horrific events that led to

28:48

this name. We

28:52

etsu violent patients in here with

28:54

a personal was mentally impaired and

28:57

you know he was known to

28:59

be one of the sweetest station

29:01

south their foot. Every now and

29:03

then he would have an outburst

29:05

and that's how he ended up

29:07

getting into this room. Now, the

29:09

other two patients were not nice

29:11

people. Let's put it that way.

29:13

So basically they hide a seat

29:15

around his neck, through it up

29:17

around the pipes and would basically

29:19

ways him up in the air

29:21

and so. He would pass

29:23

out then we let him

29:26

that down, ways him back

29:28

up again until she passed

29:30

out. Well eventually they realized

29:32

they were didn't get into.

29:34

A lot of trouble. The

29:36

lead the sky down on the for

29:39

at a steel bed with here with

29:41

the said post on his head and

29:43

is one held him their the other

29:46

ones jumped on the Fed sears. Tiscali

29:48

brain. Quoting

29:55

the Gleason, his particular event took

29:57

place in the eighties and. as

29:59

of the time of this episode, quote,

30:02

one of the men who killed him

30:04

actually recently passed. Well,

30:07

Gleason says it wasn't long after

30:10

that, folks started to say that

30:12

they saw a black figure outside

30:14

of the room that quote,

30:16

goes in between the door of this

30:18

ward to where the guests would actually

30:20

visit. Now

30:28

y'all, I could spend an

30:30

hour outlining all of the

30:32

paranormal experiences documented at the

30:34

Trans-Allegheny Lunatic Asylum. And

30:36

honestly, I would barely scratch the surface of

30:39

what's out there. After all,

30:41

it's been featured on almost every

30:43

single paranormal show that has been

30:45

made from ghost adventures to destination

30:48

fear and all have walked

30:50

away with similar findings. This

30:52

place is truly one of the most

30:55

haunted locations that visited. In

30:57

fact, veteran investigator Nick

30:59

Groff of Paranormal Lockdown

31:02

claimed that he had quote, one

31:04

of his most profound paranormal

31:06

experiences here at Trans-Allegheny in

31:09

2009. Of

31:23

course, whether or not you believe that the asylum

31:25

is haunted or not is up

31:27

for you to visit and decide. But

31:30

one thing is for certain. This

31:32

historic structure continues to serve as

31:35

a reminder of how far psychiatric

31:37

care has come over the last

31:39

century and a half. A

31:42

grim relic of a time when

31:44

medicine's ability to help did

31:47

far more harm than good. My

31:58

name is Brandon Shexnider. and

32:00

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