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Time to abandon ship.

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Oh no!

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Here we go. Can I persuade you to join us for a drink?

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It's a tradition.

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Here, here. Jar Jar, homie, my main man, quickly.

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Before the separatists attack, get into the escape pod.

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Hey! This is escape.

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Then where's the pod? Here's the pod!

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Welcome back to another after show of Tales of the Empire.

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The second one, technically the fourth in a series of Star Wars tales,

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which the first season was Tales of the Jedi.

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We had two story arcs there, and now Tales of the Empire.

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Last week we went over Morgan Ellsbeth and the origin story provided through those episodes.

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This week it's all about Barazoffi,

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and we've got Kirk and Blake joining us in the escape pod to chat all about that.

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So if you haven't seen those three episodes of Tales of the Empire,

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spoiler warning, we're about to get into that in depth.

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So stay tuned.

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Another happy landing.

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Well, hello, welcome back Blake.

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Hello there. Chut Chut.

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Chut Chut. I forgot to unmute you there for a second.

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Am I unmuted?

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You're on, you're on. Ah, we're live!

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And hello Kirk from the other side of the galaxy.

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Yo, yo. Hello, hello.

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That's right. Yeah.

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Down under here. Things are good.

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Things are good. How's life in an upside down world?

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You know what? I just saw, I just saw Fall Guy in theaters,

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so it's good to see Australia being represented on the main screen

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despite it being for like five minutes in the movie,

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but apart from that life is good.

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Nice. Awesome.

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Awesome. Tales of the Empire.

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It's been, it came out, these episodes came out May 4th, 2024.

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We've got three to finally talk about,

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which is sort of the, the resolve to Barazothi's story, which-

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At long last. At long last.

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We've been waiting for this story for a long time.

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At least like 10 years? It's been a long time.

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Over 10 years. That's crazy.

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Yeah. Since, since season five, episode 20, which-

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What year, what year is that? We gotta look it up.

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Okay. Clomor's season five, episode 20.

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I think this was called The Wrong Jedi.

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That's been 2013 or something. Or 24, actually 2014 maybe.

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This was, okay. So this is, this came out March.

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If this is, if this is right, this came out March 1st, 2013.

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So yeah. Oh wow.

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Yeah. Dang.

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Pretty nuts. So yeah, just over 10 years.

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Just over 10 years. Yeah.

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11 years, I guess. Just over 11 years.

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Crazy. Crazy.

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Barazothi hasn't aged a day. Actually she kind of did age, but-

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Yeah. Yeah.

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But what's cool about this is of course, Meredith Salinger has reprised her role as

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Barazothi from the animated series.

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And because we haven't seen her in over, over 10 years, this was kind of big news to her

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too as an actor because, you know, she gets to come back and play this character that

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she probably thought like, oh, never gonna play that again.

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And- I watched the entire series of Rebels thinking, they'll give me a call.

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Yeah. And it never happened.

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Never happened. Yeah, exactly.

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So we got three episodes here, devoted realization and the way out.

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So yeah, I guess we'll just dive right in.

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We'll start with the first one and go through and then, and then we'll listen to some more

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videos from Newfoundland at the, what was it called?

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Expo on the Rocks or something? That's right.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Something like that. Yeah.

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Yeah. Fan Expo on the Rocks or I don't know.

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Can't quite remember the name. I think it's just Expo on the Rocks.

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Expo on the Rocks. Or Geek on the Rock or something.

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I don't know. Something like that.

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All right. Devoted by Salvaro's story by Dave Filoni, written by Nicholas Anastasiao, May 4th, 2024.

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Following Order 66 and the Galactic Republic's reorganization into the Empire, former Jedi

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Barriss Offee, who is serving a life sentence after turning on the Jedi Order and attacking

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the Jedi Temple, is brought to the under-construction Fortress Inquisitorius to be trained by the

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Grand Inquisitor. After she kills a fellow recruit in a duel, Barriss is welcomed as an Inquisitor and introduced

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to her new master, the Sith Lord, Darth Vader.

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The cast included Xena Robinson as Amar, Meredith Salinger as Barriss Offee, Dee Bradley

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Baker as a clone trooper, Nicholas Cantu as Dante, Rye Kilstead as Lynn Rakish, slash

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the fourth sister, and Jason Isaacs coming back as the Grand Inquisitor.

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So that was that first episode there.

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And what a great re-entry to the series.

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I mean, like this first episode, it seemed like it picked up very soon after the purge,

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you know? I was during the, like on the temple, right?

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The attack on the temple? It seemed like that.

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It kind of blew me away because I think her name is, it's Lynn, right?

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Lynn, the fourth sister. She was already in her like uniform and everything.

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So I think it was maybe like days after, like the aftermath was still kind of there.

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It was a very recent thing. But at the same time-

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I find that a bit odd. I feel like it'd have to be during because her window looks directly at the temple.

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Yeah. So she didn't notice for several days?

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Yeah. She noticed that it was on fire.

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I think there may have been... Kirk, was there some smoke or something?

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I forget. Yeah, there was definitely some smoke.

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It would have been either the same day or a few days after, I'd imagine.

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Yeah. So just like lingering-

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Or maybe, originally she'd seen it and then she'd ask the troopers and then maybe there's

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a time gap between the troopers and Lynn. Right, right.

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Well, and also she's in prison. She's in a cell.

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So like, you know, time just kind of for her is like every day is the same.

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They probably just didn't have the time or data. There's so much going on, right?

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Yeah. So this is probably a few days after.

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That's just my guess. But yeah, in the meantime, the Inquisitors have kind of started up.

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And as we know- It's a good point though, just that time gap, because I would have thought it'd been at

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least a year. Right.

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No, yeah. It's pretty soon.

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And also in the Vader comic books, like we get introduced to the Grand Inquisitor almost

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immediately. Like right after Vader kind of becomes Vader, he goes off, he gets his lightsaber thing

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sorted out and he comes back and then it's like, okay, here's the second thing on the

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list. Here's the Grand Inquisitor.

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Here's what we have. Here's your underlings.

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Yeah. Here's our new squad of Jedi hunters, right?

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And the Inquisitorius is like a big part of that comic book series, which I highly recommend

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to anybody. It's called Darth Vader, Dark Lord of the Sith.

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It's four volumes, not very long. It's like 32 issues of comic books.

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It takes like maybe an hour to get through, like an hour and a half to get through all

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of them. Is that the series where Vader is in the middle of like this desert pit and all these rebels

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surround him and he's like, I'm only surrounded by dead men or something like that iconic

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line? I can't remember if it's from that series.

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That's probably one of the other Darth Vader series.

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There's a total of three now. So there's the Dark Lord of the Sith Darth Vader series.

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And then that's like right after episode three. And then there's the Darth Vader series, which was the first one they made.

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That's like right after episode four. And then there's the new Darth Vader series, which is right episode, episode five.

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And that's like bridging the gap between episode five and six.

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So that's the most recent one and that's still ongoing, I think.

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But so that makes it the longest one so far.

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But yeah, so, so this, this is like timeframe wise and this is pretty soon after and makes

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sense that they did it.

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They did the story where they did it because, you know, she's, we haven't seen this time

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period for the Inquisitors on screen yet, right?

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So it makes sense that she would be an Inquisitor in the time that we haven't seen Inquisitors

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floating around yet. There's no mention of her at the times that we have seen Inquisitors, right?

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That's why we're missing several Inquisitors.

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That's why we're missing a few. Yeah.

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Here and there. Right.

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And then also, like, oh, that's why. Yeah.

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I was wondering where the other Inquisitors were. I thought the others would have like stepped forward at some point like the, but that makes

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a lot more sense now, I guess, because there's a lot missing.

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All the ones from Rebels weren't there. Right.

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All the ones from Rebels weren't there. Yeah.

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I was expecting to say some of them there. Yeah.

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Yeah. So they, they either joined later or maybe they, they were, you know, I think it was

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a wise decision, especially in that one scene where at the very end when they bowed Vader,

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you only see like three or four of them.

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Like, I think it was a good decision not to try and bring in the amount that they've come

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up with so far and have them all there for that moment because, you know, it gives the

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Oh, they're off busy doing Jedi hunting things or they're, they're, you know, still doing

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whatever. Right.

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And it's like, we have a moment similar in the Vader comic books where you do see a few

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of them, but it's like, okay, well now that we have Inquisitors like Marek and, you know,

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this chick and like, and Barriss and stuff, like where are they in that comic book?

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Because that comic was done before a lot of these other characters were made.

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So it sort of helps smooth over the idea that these characters never all existed in the

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same place at the same time at any point in the saga.

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So I like that. Do you find it kind of funny that the newest one, Marek, is now one of the OG Inquisitors?

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Yeah, he's like, he's the last one to die.

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It's actually kind of sick because like, when you look at his armor, he's like, he's like,

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it's like rusting and it's like old, right?

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Like you're, you get the idea that it's like, this dude has been around for like way too

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long. Right.

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And I like the idea that he's like kind of the last Inquisitor for some reason still

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floating around out there. Like I don't know what he's been up to, but it's kind of, it's kind of cool to know that

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he kind of exists. Yeah, I'd like to know more about his character, to be honest.

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I saw him pop up in this episode. I'm like, yeah, you know what?

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I want a Tales of the Empire Marek story.

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So you must have been a Jedi then, because I'm guessing all of the ones that we saw in

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this episode were Jedi that turned. They weren't Inquisitors that were raised later or trained later.

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Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

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Yeah. What are your thoughts on this, Kirk?

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Like, you know, Marek, Barriss, Fortress, Inquisitorius?

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I do agree. I feel like I'd like to see more about him or it, whatever you want to call it.

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But I think, yeah, I think we're going to have to wait for Tales of the Empire Season

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2. Something like that.

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Tales of the Inquisitorius. Tales of the Inquisitorius.

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Yeah, maybe. Tales of the Inquisitorius.

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I can't see any shows coming up in the near future that's going to fill that gap off on

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the top of my head. It's been interesting to see Fortress Inquisitorius change and also expand, you know, in terms

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of visual aesthetic and scale as the stories have progressed because we were first introduced

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to this location in, I think it was either in Fallen Order or in the Darth Vader Dark

10:33

Lord of the Sith comic books, but both of those sort of came out around the same time.

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So it may have been a collaboration, a collaborative effort.

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And then later we saw it in Obi-Wan Kenobi and in the live action scheme of things.

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And then now, again, in an animated show in the form of how we see it in this show.

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And then I think it's also maybe showing up in a book or so.

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But I think that makes this location like one of the very few that's hit every single

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form of media. It's hit the games, it's hit the comics, it's hit the animated shows, the live action, and

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the novels. It's probably the only new planet to have done that.

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Yeah, I think it is. Like the post-George planet.

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Yeah, post-George. Disney, Star Wars.

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I feel as well this episode as well showing it is also kind of indicative that the Inquisitorius

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base probably existed before Order 66, because depending on how long Barrister's training

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was as an Inquisitor, correct me if I'm wrong, but it didn't seem that it was too long and

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the whole structure was already there for them to go inside of it.

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Yeah. Unless it's not the time gap, but that raises a good question because Vader would have just

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been burned almost from the neighboring planet very recently then.

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Yeah, I think that that sort of speaks volumes to a lot of places though, right?

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Even in the Bad Batch, you look at Mount, like at Tantus, or what's that place called?

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Is it Tantus? Tantus.

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Yeah, Tantus. Yeah, it's the planet.

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Yeah, and it's like that massive base. There's no way they did that overnight.

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And then also- Yeah, they had to have been there a long time.

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Ner, right? The Death Star.

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Palpatine's been doing all this behind the Jedi's and the Republic's view for quite some

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time. I believe that all the way back in Clone Wars, when they first took the Zillow Beast, it

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would have went to Tantus. Right, right.

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Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, well, that's true, I guess.

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But then people would know about it. Like more people than he probably wants to know.

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Unless it was just like science and clone guards.

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Maybe, maybe. Yeah.

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But yeah, I think it's kind of like, it's one of those things that's just like, I can,

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I guess, if he can hide something as big as the Death Star, you know, I think it's probably

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believable that on an ocean planet in the middle of like frigging nowhere, he's able

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to build like an apartment, you know. Pelt Tower.

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Yeah, yeah. So, you know, it is what it is.

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It's also Star Wars. I mean, they got tons of droids and resources.

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They can just pile it in and it's like 3D printing a building overnight, you know what

12:56

I mean? Like they can just, boom. They do build stuff very quickly.

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They do. Except for the first Death Star for some reason.

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Yeah, it's all Galen's fault. Delayed the process.

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So the highlight of this episode, I guess, is Barriss's struggle to really give herself

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to the Inquisitorius over to the dark side.

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And, you know, she's being torn in two directions.

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Obviously, she had problems with the order, but she just went about expressing her views

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just to the most extreme way possible.

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And I think she regrets it to a degree.

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But it's a weird arc in regards to that.

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Yeah, across the three, because no, I mean, I guess she was on the level of like

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Pongrel, of how extreme she was in acting out against the Jedi at a time where they

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saw themselves as peacekeepers and they're raised believing they were peacekeepers.

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Yeah. So I found her redemption arc.

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It was a tough sell for me, I guess, because of that.

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It wasn't like she was twisted post like Order 66.

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Right. She was already against the Jedi.

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She was to a certain degree.

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I don't think it was quite like Sith like against the Jedi want to kill them all kind of thing.

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The bomb that she set off killed killed some engineer, I think, like the one the one guy

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that was it was it one guy that died or something?

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Or was it a few that that one unlucky guy that came in on his day off?

14:13

Yeah, he was like he was the bomb because he he was set up with like nanobots or something.

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He was six days from retirement one day.

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It was his retirement day. 60 years of a career engineer at the Jedi temple only to be nanobotted by a character

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we didn't hear from for 11 years or where to go.

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Yeah, but he was like he was set up between her or his like wife or something and and

14:43

Baris like they kind of all they were all in on it.

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Right. And yeah, it was it was it was weird.

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Right. Because like here's a Jedi Knight who is basically like become so disturbed with what

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she's been seeing that she's willing to go this far to make a statement.

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And like no, it's not a bomb in the Jedi council chambers,

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which she probably could have done if she really wanted to.

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But it was very much targeted at like a certain area, which would be kind of out of the way.

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It's in a hanger, right? Like it's not like a huge thing, but it's also a very like extreme and people died.

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And it's like, okay. Yeah, this was bad.

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But when she gives her little speech of like of why she did it, you know, it's almost it's

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almost you almost feel a bit of sympathy towards her because she explains just wholeheartedly.

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She believes that the Jedi have lost their way. And you know, as a viewer, that that is not entirely untrue, right?

15:34

Like you can come to the same conclusion.

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Yeah. And you can see where she's coming from as a character.

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She just kind of goes about it the wrong way. So I don't think she's out for blood or anything.

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So when she's approached to be an Inquisitor, I don't think she quite knows what she's really

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getting into other than I need to survive because this these people have now pit me

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against somebody that I used to be essentially family with, you know, like another Jedi padawan

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who's been sucked into this as well. And they are making us kill one another and only one of us can make it out of here alive.

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So like she's put in a position where she's kind of forced to do, you know,

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forced to play her hand for survival. Right.

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And if there is anything, she's a survivor.

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Right. I guess maybe it's been a while since I've seen the arc because I kind of built up my head

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that she had gone like completely rogue like Pong Krell.

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Yeah, no, it wasn't quite like Pong Krell. I think Pong Krell was definitely a lot worse.

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Like he made clones kill each other and orchestrated the armies against one another.

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And was specifically trying to get the attention of the Dark Lord of the Sith.

16:30

Yeah, he was trying to get Duke who's attention he wanted to be an agent of the Sith.

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Right. Whereas like Barriss doesn't want to be an agent of the Sith.

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She'd never I don't think she ever wanted that, but she never wanted to be a part of a Jedi order that fell to the level that they did.

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And so it's easier, I think, to accept when you start thinking about all these things.

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It's like, okay, yeah, I kind of get it. And she's in prison.

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And then someone says an old friend of hers, mind you,

16:54

says like, this is your chance to survive this.

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And like, it's very clear if she doesn't join them, she's going to be executed.

16:59

Right. So yeah, she definitely felt she had no choice at that moment there when she first joined.

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I guess, like, I see where you're coming from in terms of like,

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the arc was a little bit hard to buy. I guess, like, my only I could totally feel that,

17:15

like, she shouldn't have, like, joined the Inquisitorius or the that,

17:19

you know, that band, I guess you could call it. Given given what her motivations were from the season five of the Clone Wars.

17:26

But I think the main problem where I felt was that I think

17:30

it was maybe the towards the last episode of her arc

17:33

that I found was this like super rushed.

17:36

I feel like they didn't need to skip ahead all that time and then show again.

17:40

Maybe I'm jumping ahead a little bit, but like show how her,

17:43

you know, her life path kind of finished up.

17:46

I felt like that whole monk-esque that she took over in the last episode

17:52

was the hardest part just for me to believe,

17:54

just because I feel like it would have been good to see more of her character

17:58

rather than just, you know, quickly show her death.

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Because these episodes are only like 12, 15 minutes long.

18:02

They're not full episodes about the character.

18:05

No, I agree. And that's during that arc is where my thoughts kind of went in this direction,

18:10

like that final episode. So, yeah, I felt...

18:13

Oh, go ahead, Kirk. Yeah, I was just going to reiterate that, what Tanner said.

18:17

I feel like it's just the last arc I kind of felt.

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I feel like this character is a bit of a Iden Versio generalist

18:25

kind of bait-and-switch approach that kind of painted it.

18:29

Whereas I feel like it would have been a little bit more interesting

18:32

if you saw her obviously be back to no corner,

18:34

take up the position as being an Inquisitor in the first episode.

18:38

And then, I don't know, I found it a little bit too cliche.

18:41

I felt like I've seen this arc before

18:45

when it would have been a little bit more interesting to explore what Barriss's actual motivations were

18:50

a little bit more in Tales of the Jedi.

18:52

Because I felt like I didn't get any of that in the last episode at least.

18:57

Yeah, that's fair. No, I think you're right. And I think that's where I'm getting confused.

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Because now that we've talked about it, like I was mentioning earlier,

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I think I had built up in my head that she was more rogue

19:06

than she maybe actually was. Yeah, and to add on to that...

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I have it right here if you want to listen to her speech.

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So just as a quick reminder, she basically frames her friend Ahsoka for the bombing

19:18

and kills somebody in the process. Let's take a listen.

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Ahsoka has been accused of. Barriss, is that true?

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Tell them the truth. That the Jedi are the ones responsible for this war.

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That we've so lost our way that we have become villains in this conflict.

20:18

That we are the ones that should be put on trial.

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All of us. And my attack on the temple was an attack on what the Jedi have become.

20:27

An army fighting for the dark side. Followed from the light that we once held so dear.

20:33

This republic is failing. It's only a matter of time.

20:41

Take her away. So, yeah, you can kind of see that what she says is very,

20:52

very much geared towards her idea of doing good, right?

20:56

How would you get to the conclusion that bombing the temple is the way to do it though?

21:00

Well, she sees the Jedi as villains, right?

21:03

She thinks that she's clearly now fighting on the wrong side of the war

21:07

because of the Jedi and how they've fallen, right?

21:10

When Anakin, in his perspective, from my point of view, the Jedi are evil.

21:16

He's taking all this in as well and has a very twisted but similar opinion.

21:21

He's got the dark lord of the Sith kind of driving his stuff.

21:24

This is just not a nobody, but it's just like another Jedi

21:28

and she's obviously kind of seeing what's happening out there.

21:34

Obviously, it wasn't the right thing to do.

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And I think that's sort of where her redemption story comes into play.

21:40

But having dealt the hand she had, or the one that she was given, I guess,

21:44

and then being put in this position of you either die now or you come with us kind of thing

21:49

and survive and join the Inquisitorius and you can be free kind of thing.

21:53

She's like, it doesn't sound so bad, right? I'm really torn now after listening to that speech because now I feel like that

21:59

it would have been natural for her to want to join the Inquisitors

22:02

and kill off the Jedi if that's what her intention was.

22:04

But if she didn't have that intention when she bombed the Jedi temple

22:08

and she wanted to get rid of the Jedi, then now I'm a little bit confused

22:11

whether or not it was the right story decision for her to want to break away

22:16

from the Inquisitors because at least when I first watched it,

22:19

I felt she was breaking away from the Inquisitors because after they raided the village

22:23

and then the Inquisitor was going barbarian mode on all the villages that weren't Jedi.

22:29

I think that was the first mission they were assigned to.

22:31

That totally makes sense to me. But when they found the Jedi on top of the mountain or wherever it was,

22:37

I don't know. I'm not sure if that's right before where I thought the character is going.

22:41

Now, let's re-listen to that speech. What do you guys think?

22:44

I think not to go counter to what you're saying, Kirk,

22:46

but I think to me it makes a little more sense

22:48

because originally I had thought that she was really lost in the war and quite anti-Jedi,

22:54

which I guess in her speech she is, but she's anti-Jedi in that they've lost their way.

22:59

So to me, I'm still not entirely sold that her bombing the temple was right.

23:04

But it makes more sense to me then that she would join the Inquisitors thinking that they

23:12

were getting rid of the Jedi, which she saw as no longer peacekeepers but warmongers,

23:17

but seeing that the Inquisitors are actually worse,

23:20

then realize like, oh, this isn't what I thought it was going to be.

23:23

So what I just want to add on to that is that the bombing didn't kill any Jedi as far as I know.

23:31

Had she planned it to though? Oh, sorry. No, it did. Actually, the attack killed six Jedi Knights, never mind,

23:35

and a number of clone troopers and members of the Jedi Temple's maintenance crew.

23:39

Okay, yeah, so it did kill some Jedi. But yeah, it was definitely a statement of how she definitely feels like the Jedi are on the

23:47

wrong side of the war and that we're all the ones that should be on trial, she says, including her,

23:51

because she feels like she's betrayed the Republic and she feels that the Jedi as a collective have

23:58

fallen from the light that they once held so dear, is what she says.

24:02

And that's probably why she also isn't surprised at all when she hears that there's a coup

24:06

against Palpatine by the Jedi. Right, exactly, and that's just it, is like she hears that from her friend,

24:12

that the Jedi tried to assassinate Palpatine, she doesn't even flinch,

24:16

and it's like, okay, yeah, I'm going to join these guys.

24:19

This guy was right. Yeah, and it's not until the next episode where we can talk about that now,

24:25

but let's just give this probable points of prudence real quick.

24:27

I think this was a solid like two, two Pablo points.

24:30

It was awesome. I thought it was great. Yep, I love this too.

24:33

It's funny because there was very little action, it was all very story,

24:36

but a story that we were waiting 11 years to figure out what happened.

24:39

Yeah, it had me excited. If this came out 11 years ago, I maybe wouldn't have been quite as excited about it,

24:45

but because we had to wait all that time, I'm going to give it two and a half points.

24:50

I'll go with two Pablo points.

24:52

Apologies, I jumped ahead with my critique there.

24:55

But yeah, two points for this episode specifically out of the three.

24:59

And it had Vader in it. That's always cool. That's true.

25:01

Oh, yes. Wait, actually, all right, I'm going to have to scale this back now.

25:04

I'm going to put it one and a half Pablo points because I was like totally baited by the trailers.

25:11

I'm like, oh, great, we're going to see Vader in Clone Wars again.

25:14

This is awesome. And then they click baited us.

25:18

Wouldn't Anakin seeing Barriss as like, I'm sure he would have like looked at the forms

25:22

and been like, all right, we've got Barriss off. He is one of the inquisitors today.

25:25

And so we picked her up, right? I'm no poet that didn't happen.

25:28

But wouldn't he be like, oh, that Jedi framed Ahsoka and then Ahsoka left.

25:35

And then all this happened. I felt like he would be a bit mad.

25:38

Yeah. Man, I would love to know what's going through Anakin's head at that point

25:41

when he sees his bare selfie there. Oh, man.

25:44

Yeah. Yeah, I would love to know just what he's thinking because of course he,

25:48

Anakin like fought Barriss like when he was right before Ahsoka's trial,

25:53

to try and arrest her. He arrested her. He's the one who has to.

25:56

He has to have remembered her like he has to have remembered her.

25:59

Yeah, he does. He does for sure. But it's been very long.

26:01

No, it hasn't been a year probably. It's funny how he just doesn't react.

26:05

Of course, he just kind of sits in his throne and they all bow and it's like, okay.

26:08

Yeah. But yeah, it would have been nice. You know what?

26:10

Actually, looking at this episode again, I remember watching it and going on to the next one.

26:15

And I thought that I actually missed an episode.

26:18

So I went back and looked because I thought that like it was going to continue

26:21

like as Vader was sitting down. I was like, oh, where's this next section?

26:26

What's happening? This is Walmart Vader.

26:29

I'll stick. I know we can't.

26:31

Am I allowed to do one and a half Pablo points? Yeah, you can.

26:33

Yeah. If not, then I'll leave it there.

26:36

One and a half. Also, Blake, can you just quickly explain our rating system?

26:39

Oh, yeah. We should probably just record this at some point.

26:44

On Star Wars escape pod podcast, we have a rating system where we scale.

26:53

We rate to a scale of seven. It starts at a negative three.

26:56

That's three public poodles. We work work away up three, two, one to zero, which is a bend you into the positive range.

27:03

One, two, three public points. Yeah.

27:05

That was so eloquently said. I love it. Yeah.

27:08

Awesome. Okay. So here's the next one.

27:11

It's called realization. This was directed by Stuart Lee.

27:14

Story by Dave Filoni, written by Matt Mishnevitz, also released May 4th.

27:18

Baris and the fourth sister, another inquisitor, are sent to find a Jedi who is in hiding.

27:24

They question some villagers and learn that the Jedi is on a nearby mountain.

27:28

Baris becomes disillusioned with the Empire when the fourth sister murders the villagers

27:33

and then cuts down a Jedi after Baris convinces them to surrender.

27:36

Baris uses the force to push the fourth sister off the mountain and then aids the wounded Jedi.

27:41

Cast includes Meredith Salinger as Baris Offee, Keith Ferguson as the governor,

27:46

Raya Killest as Lynn Rekish, or the fourth sister, Raya Chase as the Jedi,

27:51

and Jordan Currett as the young girl.

27:54

So yeah, to what you were saying, Kirk, in the last episode's sort of chat there,

28:00

you said something about the inquisitor cutting down all the villagers and stuff, right?

28:06

Yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's right. So it's interesting to see Baris's reaction to this whole thing,

28:10

because this is her first mission as an inquisitor, and I think in her head,

28:13

she probably thought that it was a lot different than what it ended up being.

28:17

Oh yeah, it's significantly worse than the Jedi.

28:19

Yeah, significantly worse than what she thought. I don't think she really quite understood how present the dark side was in all of her

28:28

co-inquisitors. And yes, she passed the test because she was able to defeat the other guy who was going after.

28:35

Again, it was self-defense, yeah, and he was gonna kill her, right?

28:39

So she protected herself, the other guy died, and here she is in the job that she sort of

28:46

happened to sort of get into, right?

28:48

And so I think she protects the kid from, what's her name?

28:54

Lin? Lin, I keep forgetting her name.

28:56

What's her sister number, do we know?

28:59

Fourth sister. So she protects her from Lin, fourth sister, and really is just in shock of like,

29:07

what is this person doing? She's just killing everyone because she can't, right?

29:11

I gotta say, if you're bringing in a new recruit and trying to bring them along the line to the

29:17

dark side, baby steps, man, you can't go all in like that, you'll spook people off.

29:23

Oh yeah, for sure. I thought the way that she- I wonder what the HR policy is at the Inquisitorious Academy.

29:30

The way that she defends her decision though was interesting because her decision to kill

29:35

everybody was basically like, oh, if we let anyone live and to tell the tale or whatever,

29:41

it's going to look like we had mercy.

29:43

It wasn't even that, it was that she had to prove a point that that guy lied to her.

29:47

Yeah, it was like showing power, right?

29:51

That she just killed the one guy and then the rest of them would be afraid.

29:54

Right, right. Why kill all of them except for that child and just leave them to starve?

29:58

I guess the child would be the one to sort of be the lesson learned, right?

30:02

There's no one around, he's a child that killed the whole town.

30:05

Yeah, I know, I know. Whatever.

30:08

But yeah, it was a really dark moment.

30:11

We've never quite seen a moment like this in most of the Star Wars animated shows

30:15

where a whole village just gets murdered by-

30:17

In the animated. I'm thinking in the books, Palpatine the Vader-

30:20

Oh yeah, yeah, I know. I mean in the animated shows, yeah.

30:22

In the animated shows, I think this is the first for sure.

30:25

And I was like, whoa, this is super cool.

30:27

And then- That's dark.

30:30

Yeah, and then they climb the mountain and they fight that Jedi.

30:35

The way that it goes down with her trying to persuade this Jedi,

30:39

the way that Lin persuaded her.

30:41

I think she's thinking, I can save this guy, right?

30:44

Like I can save this Jedi to, I guess, protect them from being killed off by myself

30:50

and my counterpart here.

30:52

And Lin just didn't care. She was not interested in training someone else at all.

30:56

No, no, yeah. And her whole thing was just, yeah, she just stabbed this guy in the back

31:01

and it was like, okay, yeah, cool. But I mean, it was brutal.

31:05

It was like, I could totally see it coming. But at the same time, it was like, this is definitely a good story moment.

31:10

It's a cool story moment because you get to see how Barriss reacts to even,

31:14

it's just like, that's the last straw, right? So that's when she snaps and she has the realization,

31:18

has the title of this episode. Say, okay, I'm definitely not on the right side.

31:22

I wasn't on the right side prior to the end of the war

31:24

and I'm certainly not on the right side now. So that's when she force pushes Lin off the cliff and gets away.

31:30

Does Lin live? Because we see her later, don't we?

31:32

Yeah, Lin lives. Yeah, yeah. But I don't know, I want to ask you, Kirk, just after...

31:35

Oh, yeah, of course, the next episode. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

31:39

So after kind of seeing this episode, what did you, do you still think,

31:43

was this in character, do you think for her to do that?

31:46

Or how are you interpreting that whole moment at the end there?

31:51

Yeah, well, I mean, I definitely wouldn't expect Barriss to,

31:54

I mean, in the village to join in on the fun.

31:57

I think that would have been pretty wild if they decided to do that.

32:03

In terms of on the top of the mountain at the end

32:05

where it is Lin, they chuck Lin off the cliff.

32:08

I think I wasn't, I expected her to kind of go that way.

32:12

However, I now, again, I feel like my opinion has changed again

32:16

listening to that speech just because it gives me a better,

32:19

fresher idea of what her opinions are.

32:22

Honestly, I feel like they really should have played that at the beginning of the series.

32:26

Say it again. They really should have played her speech just as an opener.

32:29

Yeah, I mean, I probably should have watched it again,

32:31

come to think of it. But while she's massacring the village,

32:35

I think I would have liked Barriss, would like to see Barriss jump in at that moment

32:40

and prevent that massacre going on

32:43

because she's just kind of standing there and then they're just killing everybody in the village.

32:48

I feel like as a Jedi that hasn't really been turned yet,

32:50

she has her views, she doesn't like the Jedi, albeit she thinks they should have been keepers of the peace.

32:55

And she just stood by and watched Lin massacre all these people.

32:59

I feel like it would have been more interesting for her to jump in there.

33:02

But yeah, I think in terms of like her relationship

33:08

with Inquisitor program left how it should have left.

33:12

I wouldn't really change how the episode kind of ended.

33:16

Did that Jedi die up on the top of the mountain in the end?

33:19

I think so. It's kind of left unknown.

33:23

Maybe, actually. She said she was going to save him,

33:25

but then they skipped the next episode and she was a healer.

33:28

Maybe she healed him or maybe learned how to heal,

33:30

trying to deal with that situation. That's true, actually. Yeah, yeah, we don't know.

33:33

I guess what was it that Kyle said?

33:36

If the Jedi dies off screen, it's never certain.

33:41

Yeah, they'll come back. Like Mace Windu's coming back.

33:44

Exactly. No.

33:48

But yeah, okay. So let's get this one.

33:51

I thought this was like a pretty solid 1.5.

33:54

Yeah, I think we're running the same issue as the previous one,

33:57

which is that each one is a bit of a step down. This is where I started just questioning a lot, though,

34:04

with Baris being an Inquisitor because I had this idea in my head

34:09

that she should have been an Inquisitor during Rebels.

34:11

And I thought it made a really, really cool arc with her being an Inquisitor

34:15

and then a story between her and Ahsoka.

34:18

Almost like a follow-up to what happened in the end of Clone Wars.

34:21

And they went an entirely different route from something like that.

34:23

And I'm not sure what I would have liked better. That speech changes everything, though.

34:27

It does. Yeah, I don't know. As we're talking about it, I'm getting less impressed with this arc

34:33

because I really liked it when I watched it.

34:35

And now we're picking it apart. I'm like, wait, this maybe doesn't hold up as well as I thought.

34:40

Yeah. I feel like if they encountered the Jedi first,

34:45

so the Jedi on top of the mountain, before Baris saw Lin massacre the village,

34:51

it would have been more interesting for me to see Baris trying to annihilate

34:54

and kill that Jedi and really kind of push into that.

34:57

But then afterwards, if they went and went to the village

35:01

and then saw what Lin was doing, she would then draw the line there

35:04

and then fight Lin. I think that would have been more interesting.

35:07

That would have made way more sense, too, from her speech

35:10

because she was against the Jedi because they've lost their way

35:14

and they're just going to go to war. Make her a Jedi.

35:17

Yeah, make her a Jedi killer, but want to still help people

35:20

because the Jedi failed to help save people.

35:23

I think that would have been a little bit more interesting for her arc,

35:27

but I know I forgot to watch the first few episodes.

35:32

Re-watch them. Sorry, re-watch them. Yeah.

35:34

What's your guys' Pablo points? I'm going to say Bendu.

35:38

I'm going to give myself a Bendu for this one. Bendu, all right.

35:40

Yeah, it's tough because I definitely, before this conversation, had a hire.

35:45

I really agree with Kirk. It would have made way more sense to reverse the two combat situations here.

35:51

It would have made way more sense for her character to turn on the Inquisitorius.

35:54

I'll throw it a bone, though, because I still enjoyed it,

35:57

so I'll give it one Pablo point.

35:59

All right. The third and final episode of this arc.

36:01

Hey, you didn't rate it. Yeah, I gave it 1.5.

36:06

Third and final idea was The Way Out.

36:08

This is directed by Nathaniel Villanueva.

36:11

Story by Dave Filoni, written by Matt Mitchnovitz, also May 4, 2024.

36:16

Years after leaving the Inquisitors, Baris is a healer and teacher.

36:20

She is visited by a family who are trying to protect their Force-sensitive child

36:24

from the fourth sister who follows them. Baris traps the fourth sister in a maze as the family escapes

36:30

and attempts to convince her to turn to the light side of the Force.

36:33

When she accidentally stabs Baris with a lightsaber,

36:35

the fourth sister feels regret and chooses to carry Baris to safety.

36:39

The cast includes Steve Bloom as attendant number one,

36:42

Anna Graves as attendant number two, Meredith Salinger as Baris Offie,

36:46

Kirsten John as the father, Raya Kilcett as Lynn Rikish, the fourth sister,

36:51

and Susie McGrath as the mother.

36:53

Anna Graves is the voice of the Duchess of Satine,

36:57

and Steve Bloom is the voice of Zebarelius.

37:00

Nice. So this episode was interesting for two reasons.

37:06

We saw the full circle of redemption with Baris,

37:08

but we saw our redemption for the fourth sister,

37:11

and we also saw Baris reprise her position

37:14

as what she was always in the Expanded Universe.

37:18

So in the Expanded Universe, Baris was a healer.

37:20

She was a healer Jedi, and actually if you look up Baris Offie's novels

37:24

from Star Wars Clone Wars days,

37:26

she is in a book where she is very much featured as a Jedi healer,

37:31

and I think on the cover it's like her kind of healing a clone trooper.

37:34

She's like the same powers that Rey uses?

37:37

Yeah, I think so. Yeah, something like that. So it was interesting that they took that element

37:41

and worked it into her redemption arc, into this final story,

37:45

and she's sort of an outcast in a way,

37:48

but she's sort of a nomad in the middle of nowhere,

37:51

and I don't know if she's maybe part of the path at this point or what,

37:56

but this episode definitely takes place after Kenobi,

37:58

because we see Lin in Kenobi,

38:01

and she's part of that Inquisitorius squad hunting down Obi-Wan.

38:05

Baris also looks quite a bit older here.

38:07

She does, yeah. So I think it's probably before Rebels,

38:10

but it's definitely after Kenobi, so probably around 12 to 15 years after episode three.

38:15

She looks like she's aged like 20 years.

38:18

Yeah, well, it's like the Obi-Wan effect is what I call it.

38:20

Yeah, it sucks to be on the right side.

38:22

The plastic surgery does not exist in Star Wars.

38:26

And Lin looks exactly the same. Did you notice that?

38:29

A little bit. Species age differently. Yeah, that's right.

38:32

Yeah, species age differently. But yeah, I mean-

38:35

The species is Lin. I was wondering about that.

38:37

I have no idea. The species that has access to makeup and other equipment.

38:42

Yeah, exactly. It's interesting because she's like it, we like,

38:45

but she's got four and they're way smaller.

38:48

Well, just like how the desert has dried out Obi-Wan,

38:52

the frozen temperatures have also dried out Baris a little bit.

38:56

There's no moisture in the skin. That's right.

38:58

It gets frozen. Moisturizer. No moisturizer.

39:01

Yeah, that's what happens. Dry air. Yeah, so this was a very tame sort of plot line.

39:09

You know, like it was about a kid trying to escape with his family.

39:11

It was very much a personal moment and duel between the fourth sister and Baris.

39:17

And for the first encounter that they have,

39:19

she doesn't even draw her lightsaber at her.

39:21

She's just wanting to get by. She doesn't really want to fight her in that moment.

39:25

She's just on a mission- I don't think she draws her saber at all.

39:28

No, she's just on a mission after the kid, right?

39:31

That's the whole like- And that's what I found so curious about that first part of the-

39:35

when we first have these characters come face to face with one another once again.

39:38

Because I think in some deeper level, they still care about each other.

39:42

They're still friends from the Jedi Order days.

39:45

But of course, this woman is now twisted and evil and done all these terrible things.

39:49

She's forced herself down this path, kind of like Kylo Ren.

39:54

She forced herself down this area of almost no return,

39:58

at least that she doesn't think that there's any point of return, right?

40:02

Similar to Vader. Yeah, similar to Kylo Ren.

40:05

I mean, Ben forces himself down this path of killing his father,

40:10

almost killing his mother, and almost killing-

40:12

Kill the past. Finn and Rey and all these people.

40:14

Yeah, kill the past. And then it eventually takes a moment of light to really crack through the armor

40:21

and reach the good within that person.

40:23

And I think that's what happened here.

40:25

It really took Barriss's convincing and eventual accidental stabbing

40:30

to turn Lynn back to the light through regret.

40:35

She realized, oh, I regret what I've done.

40:38

And she didn't regret that she killed all those people in the village.

40:40

She didn't regret all the people that she's killed over the years.

40:43

But the moment that she kills a friend, she regrets-

40:45

A friend trying to help her. A friend trying to help her, yeah.

40:48

And I think she realizes in that moment that- And that's why Kylo Ren is stronger.

40:52

She probably realizes in that moment that there's actually something worth living for.

40:58

Because someone like that who is so alone in life,

41:01

probably it's easier to do all these terrible things.

41:04

But I think she realizes, oh, somebody cares about me.

41:07

This is also years later- It is.

41:09

Where the Inquisitorius, they work together, but they're not friends.

41:14

You're constantly looking over your shoulder at people to betray you.

41:17

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. What did you think about this episode?

41:19

I actually liked it. For it to be a redemption arc for Lin, maybe it was a little bit quick.

41:25

But I felt like a lot of the intention was there.

41:27

And emotionally, I believed it. I believed that there was enough of a connection

41:30

that Baris was able to break through this hardened armor of hate.

41:34

And yeah, I would say that what I really felt like was the intention here

41:38

was to show, leading off from the previous episode,

41:41

where Lin was trying to turn Baris to the dark side.

41:44

And here, Baris flipped it and was able to show her that not all is lost.

41:49

And that she can be forgiven. I thought they did a good job with that.

41:52

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Kirk, what do you think about this one?

41:56

I don't want to be too negative on this one.

41:59

But I think the main element of the story I didn't like is just how it kind of ended.

42:03

I felt embarrassed as dying by being just stabbed in the middle of an ice cave.

42:08

And then kind of going full circle of her being this monk on the ice village.

42:13

I think what I found least enjoyable about her arc.

42:17

I felt like I also wanted to know more about Lin as a character.

42:21

The last time we saw Lin and Baris is obviously that quick episode just before,

42:25

where Baris pushed her off a cliff. And then all of a sudden, she leaves Baris behind and then goes off to go find the child.

42:34

I felt like I, again, wanted to see more of what their relationship was

42:38

before it all just kind of ended so quickly.

42:40

And if I was a huge Baris fan, I feel like I'd be waiting 11 years to see

42:45

where her story goes, all that to kind of finish up in 30 minutes or so from start to end.

42:51

So I don't know. I felt like this episode kind of was the one that least connected with me

42:56

in terms of watching her story come through.

42:59

Fair enough. What would you give it for Pablo points?

43:02

Pudus. Last one I give a bendu, I'd probably give this one Pudu point, I would say.

43:09

I haven't given an episode like this in a while.

43:13

But I think I'm going to have to put it there, to be honest.

43:15

Is that like the one just below bendu?

43:18

Yeah. Yeah, it is. That's right. Yeah.

43:20

I think I'm going to give it that. I personally wasn't a huge fan of how her story wrapped up.

43:25

I feel like we could have gotten something else in the end.

43:28

Or honestly, I felt like I didn't want to see her die either.

43:31

But I guess that's just they wanted to wrap up the character.

43:34

What about you, Blik? Yeah, it's interesting. Similar to Kirk in the fact that this is not at all where I thought it was going to go.

43:40

When they announced to do an embarrassment, we saw it was inquisitorious related.

43:44

I did not see it going this direction.

43:46

I would say the final episode was a lot more heartfelt than I would have expected.

43:49

I would have I would have thought she would have died as an inquisitor.

43:54

Just from where we left off with her being a table bomber.

43:57

Yeah, it's just tough because I can't help but because I wanted her to be in Rebels

44:04

as an inquisitor for the entire series, all four seasons over four years.

44:08

So not getting that arc between her and Ahsoka to me just feels like a bit lackluster.

44:14

I think I'll throw it up and do I was going to give it one point five Pablo points, actually.

44:22

So reasons being I really love the fact that she in a way almost parallels Ahsoka's story,

44:29

but in a darker tone. By the end of her story, she becomes who she's always wanted to be, which is a Jedi.

44:36

And she's doing it in a way that is certainly very similar to Ahsoka in the sense that she's

44:42

just helping people. She's just she's just being like that, like this force powered being out in the galaxy,

44:48

helping people, doing her thing.

44:50

Definitely unexpected. I think like with the death of Barriss Offee, so we assume, right?

44:55

Like I think that for me was a bit sort of took me off guard.

44:59

But I think I also kind of liked it because it took me off guard.

45:02

Yeah, definitely took me off guard. And I would have liked to have seen more of Barriss, but I also appreciate them exiting

45:09

this character before it gets to the point where all of a sudden there are all these

45:14

Jedi that coexist in the same time as Luke Skywalker.

45:17

There shouldn't be. And I think that's one of the complaints that we've had over the years.

45:21

How come there's so many Jedi that have survived the purge, right?

45:23

So I like the fact that they did see there was even more in this episode, right?

45:29

So that's the thing I like. I like the fact that they did, you know, make a purpose for her character and wrap up her

45:36

story and kill her off before there before it gets too much right in a time period where

45:41

she shouldn't be around, even though I would have liked to have maybe seen her show up

45:45

in like a Soka season two or something. But you know, it is what it is.

45:48

I think I have more questions now as far as like, OK, Reva is still out there.

45:52

She's a redeemed inquisitor. Now, Lynn is out there.

45:54

She's a redeemed inquisitor. Like where are all these redeemed inquisitors going?

45:58

And all these successful force sensitive individuals like this child and whoever else

46:04

that have been transported along the path, right?

46:07

Like, where are they going? You know, where are they ending up, et cetera?

46:10

Right. And I think that's a story that needs to be told at some point.

46:14

You've got to go somewhere. They've never touched on it in so many.

46:17

Yeah. And it's not to say that there can't be force sensitive individuals out there because, you

46:21

know, it doesn't mean they're Jedi, but like there are some Jedi that have gone through

46:25

the path and left and, you know, they're out there.

46:27

So it sort of puts a new perspective on Voss.

46:30

Yeah. So like he had to survive and went through on.

46:34

Yeah. In Kenobi, right? Yeah. He was supposed to be around at that time, too.

46:37

So and now Vendress is back. So like, you know, it makes me wonder.

46:40

Like it puts a new meaning on when Yoda says to Luke that he's the last of the Jedi.

46:44

You know, when gone am I the last of the Jedi, you will be like what?

46:47

What? But he never left that planet. So he really just has no idea what he's talking about because he's been on Dagobah for 25 years.

46:52

Yeah. But he's Yoda. I mean, like he was able to.

46:55

He doesn't know. He's able to talk to Facebook.

47:00

Yeah, he's able to talk to Ezra on Lothal.

47:06

He's one of those Jedi that just refuses to adopt technology.

47:09

Like Luke went over to bring him a phone and Yoda's like, no, give me.

47:15

I learned in the dirt. See, the problem is he forgot his password and he tried to hit the recovery thing,

47:21

but he couldn't remember the password. It was email. Yeah.

47:25

You know, this reminds me of that me where people are like when like Buzz Lightyear in

47:29

Toy Story 2 is like walking through the aisles and like that's like that just him is like

47:34

before what we thought, how he Jedi survived.

47:38

And then when he goes to the aisles and there's all those Buzz Lightyears,

47:40

yeah, like on the show, like that's what actually is the remaining Jedi.

47:44

Yeah, there's so many of them. Yeah.

47:47

So I think that's one of the reasons why like this episode is like, okay,

47:51

it took me by surprise and it did something right.

47:54

You know, like it killed her off. Because we also have Cal Kestis as well.

47:57

Like, yeah, this is alive after this time too.

48:00

And he'd be like 50 by the time I think Luke is around.

48:04

Yeah, exactly. I think he's going to die in the third. No, don't say that.

48:09

You don't want him to die. No, no, don't kill him.

48:14

It's going to be called Jedi Sacrifice.

48:18

Because like you can't even say I know what it could actually be called that.

48:23

It's a pretty badass title and I just came up with it.

48:28

Hardest man. That's right.

48:31

I'm just thinking about it now. And this isn't a critique of Disney because Dave has a habit of doing this as well.

48:37

So maybe it's just an issue of modern storytellers and people,

48:41

people who grew up as fans, maybe I should say, or George.

48:43

George, whoever suited the story he would do. If he just killed someone off, he didn't have any regrets.

48:48

Didn't want to bring them back later. Just that's just what he did.

48:50

Right. I feel like people who grew up as fans and are now writing it,

48:53

they don't ever want to fully commit just in case.

48:56

Yeah, just in case. Yeah. By the way, the books that I mentioned about Barris being a healer,

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it's called The MedStar Duology.

49:04

It's written by Michael Reeves and Steve Perry set in 20 BBY.

49:09

And it focuses on a Republic mobile surgical unit

49:12

on the front lines of the Clone Wars where Barris Offee has been stationed.

49:16

So there's one called MedStar 1 Battle Surgeons and MedStar 2 Jedi Healer,

49:20

both released in 2004. This is now Legends material?

49:22

Yeah, Legends material. But they both released in 2004.

49:25

They were Star Wars Clone Wars novels.

49:27

2004. So this is before Clone Wars the series came out.

49:30

Yeah, that's when they established Barris as a healer,

49:34

because Barris was in Attack of the Clones.

49:36

She was in the Geonosian Arena. So was she at that point, she was the apprentice of...

49:42

Yeah, she was a Padawan learner to Luminon. Yeah, she was.

49:44

That's right. So she's older than Ahsoka by a little bit.

49:49

Or maybe by a lot, and we just don't notice because it's animation.

49:55

I always thought they were the same age. General Grievous over there.

50:02

Yeah, that sums up our public points and pootas for the series.

50:09

I thought this was a really great series.

50:11

Out of all of the stories that we could have had in Tales of the Empire,

50:15

I'm glad that Barris was finally completed as a story arc.

50:19

That was awesome. And having Morgan Elizabeth get a little snapshot into there was kind of cool too.

50:26

I will say I enjoyed this second arc a little better.

50:32

As much as I did complain about this arc, I will say I think this was better than the Morgan Elizabeth three episodes for me as well.

50:40

We do have... Actually, I'm going to pose a very quick random question.

50:48

Would this arc be better suited in a Tales of the Jedi series,

50:52

or is this better suited as a Tales of the Empire series?

50:56

Yeah, that's a tough question. I almost feel neither of the stories would go over Empire.

51:00

Yeah, that's another huge, I guess, I think that made me left with this episode with a bad

51:12

taste in my mouth is because it wasn't really an Empire story on both.

51:15

No, the Morgan one I felt was more Empire-ish.

51:22

Sort of, not the whole first episode.

51:24

I think it's because...

51:26

Really just a small section of the second one, that's it.

51:29

This one does feature the Inquisitorius,

51:32

so I think that's sort of the main contributing factor to why it's the Tales of the Empire,

51:37

but yeah, I definitely feel like this could have been a Tales of the Jedi story.

51:41

When you hear that title though, do you not think of a story of Stormtroopers or something?

51:45

Yeah, well, I feel like I would think of Tarkin or Krennic or...

51:49

Something that's really rooted in the Empire. Krennic, imagine a three-episode arc of Krennic.

51:55

I would have gobbled that up, as they say. You should read Catalyst.

51:59

The Rogue One novel, Catalyst, definitely really, really well written.

52:03

Oh yeah, if you haven't read it, check it out. Yeah, James Lucino.

52:06

No, I haven't. Because he did Plagueis, right?

52:08

Yeah, he did Plagueis. He's done a bunch of Star Wars books, but yeah, Catalyst was...

52:13

Well, I mean, by this definition now, Tales of the Empire is just pretty much Andor.

52:20

I would say Andor is pretty the closest thing to Tales of the Empire.

52:24

It's closer than these arcs, I would say. Yeah, I just wonder if that's the pattern they've taken.

52:30

What's the next series going to be called? I'm guessing Rebellion.

52:34

Yeah, possibly. Tales of the Resistance.

52:36

Wait, isn't Star Wars in general just Tales of the Rebellion?

52:40

Isn't all Star Wars just that? Which Rebellion, yeah.

52:43

Tales of the Skywalker Family. Yeah.

52:49

These two arcs were pretty much Tales of Dead Star Wars characters now,

52:52

because they both technically haven't made it.

52:55

Have they got Morgans dead? Yeah, yeah, that's true.

52:57

Yeah, these are all dead. Spoilers, hit the button.

53:00

Oh, yeah, whoops. She's dead. She's dead.

53:05

Didn't make it. Do you know what I find very interesting?

53:08

I was like, how do they choose? What stories are they going to do?

53:11

Like, oh, we're going to choose Morgan Elisabeth for this one.

53:15

I have a slight feeling that the people working on this show

53:18

didn't know the demise of what Morgan was going to happen in Ahsoka.

53:22

Like, I don't know, maybe that's the case. Who knows?

53:24

Right. Yeah, I feel like somebody would have to know.

53:27

If Dave is overseeing everything, he's just making fun of it.

53:29

Well, Dave's the one coming up with these stories.

53:31

My theory to how they come up with a lot of these stories

53:34

is Dave's cowboy hat, his infamous hat,

53:36

is actually just full of a bunch of little slips of paper.

53:38

So whenever he wants to write a new story, he just takes it off and pulls one out.

53:41

They put the hat in there. This is what we're writing about.

53:43

This is the story for today. Obi-Wan has taught you well.

53:51

All right, everybody, I am here with Natasha and

53:57

Noah. Did you want it? All right, so I'm here with Natasha and Noah.

54:00

Now, Natasha, who is your favorite character from Star Wars and why?

54:08

Darth Vader because James Earl Jones does the best.

54:12

That is, that is, do you want to know something? Actually, look over here.

54:15

This is a picture of me with Hayden Christensen. I love you too.

54:18

I know, so there you go.

54:20

All right. And now, Noah, what's your favorite character and why?

54:26

This is a family that I'm speaking to right now, just so you know.

54:29

So you got Darth Vader and Obi-Wan in the same family.

54:32

I can tell dinners are quite interesting in your place, aren't they?

54:36

I always go to the dark side. Well, that's awesome.

54:40

That's awesome. Now, what's your favorite lightsaber color?

54:45

Red. Because of Vader? Yeah.

54:47

Okay. Okay. What's your favorite color? Now in light blue or is it like an anti blue or are you sticking with a dark blue like Obi?

54:55

All right. We got a dark blue. Awesome. Well, thank you guys very much.

54:58

All right. Thank you guys. Yeah. And there's definitely a point in time where I would have 100% said Vader.

55:03

I mean, I think the main character of the story is just Anakin slash Vader, right?

55:08

Like, I think that's going to pick one. Most people.

55:10

He's one guy. It's one character.

55:14

Take Anakin, Darth Vader. Yeah.

55:17

Yeah. Hit the spoiler button. Oh, wait, it's on the wrong page.

55:20

You haven't learned anything. Yeah.

55:27

But I mean, okay. Here, let's switch things up.

55:30

Pick your sci-fi on the rock.

55:32

Sci-fi on the rock. Thank you. Sci-fi on the rock.

55:35

Name will escape in me. Space on the rock. What is your favorite, second favorite character?

55:45

I know. It's genius. Okay.

55:49

Top three years. Okay. How about what's your least favorite character and what makes them and what makes them a good

55:55

character? Wait, what makes your least favorite character a bad character?

55:59

What makes you what's your what's your yeah.

56:01

Okay. So what's your least favorite character?

56:04

But share something that you like about them. Oh, man.

56:06

I'm going with prune face. This is like couples.

56:09

Dude, prune face is not the worst character.

56:11

He is legendary. Legendary.

56:14

That is why that's the thing I like about him is he's legendary.

56:18

But I think he's probably the worst character because he doesn't do anything and he's just

56:22

in the background of the face. Kirk, what would you what was what about you, man?

56:31

Oh, let me have it.

56:33

So what is it again? The worst favorite character?

56:37

What's your what's your what? Yeah. What do you think is the worst character and what what makes them a good character?

56:42

What's a redeeming quality of them? Yeah.

56:44

Oh, okay. Let's have a look.

56:46

Let me let me let me think. All right.

56:48

Actually, I have I have four of my least favorite characters.

56:52

Really? Three, actually. I have three. You got a whole list.

56:56

I have a list. I don't know.

56:58

Actually, no, I have their names here right now.

57:00

Here we go. It is the four other Jedi that went with Waite Mace Windu to confront Palpatine because they

57:07

were absolutely useless. That is very fair.

57:10

Absolutely. But but I used to love Kit Fisto.

57:13

I know Kit Fisto. But they stood around that.

57:17

Kit Fisto. Yeah, but not not him.

57:19

I'll exclude him. But the other three.

57:21

Actually, I'm trying to get their names here. I can't I can't.

57:23

I think Sassy Tin. Sassy what?

57:27

Yeah, it's like, isn't it Sassy Tin?

57:29

It's the same, maybe. I'm trying to find I'm trying to find their names, but I can't I can't find them.

57:35

Anyway. Oh, yeah, that's it. Sassy Tin, Agent Cola and something and something else.

57:41

Yeah. Is it Sassy Tin or Sassy Tin?

57:44

Maybe Sassy. I think Sassy.

57:46

Sassy Tin doesn't. She's not very sassy.

57:48

I always call him Sassy. My god. Absolutely.

57:52

That's like when I was Sassy Sassy.

57:56

Oh, it's those three. So it's three Jedi's. Three other Jedi's.

57:59

Three and Mace. Yeah, it's those three other Jedi.

58:01

They're absolutely useless. And what what can I say that's good about them?

58:06

You know what they they they I reckon they'd be if the Jedi would

58:10

doing like some Jedi modeling catalog, they'd be great at that.

58:14

They stood there. They looked medicine.

58:16

They looked great. I reckon they have a career there.

58:18

But as Jedi, yeah, no, I see.

58:21

Not a lot. Very, very good redeeming point for you, Kirk.

58:26

Sassy Tin. I go for it. Sassy Tin has like the most badass.

58:30

Sassy Tin. The way that he said Sassy.

58:40

It sounded like sensei, like like Japanese, like samurai.

58:44

Like a pastor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sensei Tin.

58:46

Thank you, Sensei. Yeah. Oh, man.

58:49

Sassy Tin. He has the most badass armor in the Genndy cartoons.

58:54

Yeah, he does. It is so sick.

58:56

Yeah, he's got those like sweet armor. I bought the Star Wars miniature for that.

58:59

It's behind you somewhere. With the armor on? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

59:01

With the armor on. It's in that case somewhere.

59:03

The one right behind your head. Yeah, the one with the one with Kifisto in there.

59:06

Oh, Kifisto's in there. We can reenact the scene.

59:09

Yeah. I got Palpatine, too.

59:11

I do. Is it Chancellor Palpatine?

59:14

It is. And Sidious Palpatine.

59:16

I got Sidious Palpatine. Oh, wait, there was only, wait, there was only three Jedi.

59:20

Those Kifisto, Sensei Tin, and Agent Cola.

59:25

Yeah, and then Mace. There you go. There's four.

59:27

So I came across a Quora article called, the question is,

59:31

why did Mace Windu bring the three worst Jedi ever to help him kill Palpatine?

59:36

And the second answer, this is Mark Spector,

59:39

former CEO at Department of Redundancy Department,

59:43

says, for many reasons, number one, they were the best ones left.

59:50

Thank you, Mark. I love that reply.

59:54

Okay, so what's something good about them? Like I said, I think they make great Jedi models for the Jedi catalog.

1:00:01

They stood there, they look great. That's about it.

1:00:03

Nothing else good to say about these Joker for Jedi.

1:00:06

Oh, man. Well, and Kifisto's got a killer smile on him.

1:00:09

That's true. Yeah. Okay, I gotta say, okay, one of the worst characters ever.

1:00:14

Yeah, I've reenacted the scene. Is probably, is probably, oh, man.

1:00:19

Got all the miniatures. I think maybe like Babu Frick or something.

1:00:23

Dude, Babu Frick's awesome. No, he sucks.

1:00:26

Babu Frick holds the sequel trilogy.

1:00:30

He's the glue that holds all things together.

1:00:33

That was one of my favorite scenes in Rise of Skywalker.

1:00:37

I think he's just such a useless character.

1:00:40

And then, and then at the same time, though, he's like, he's got that, hey, hey thing.

1:00:45

That's why he's awesome. Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

1:00:48

I love how we both just turned on you here.

1:00:50

I was like, no, that's not right. You're wrong.

1:00:53

You're the worst character. Yeah, you both pile on me.

1:00:56

Okay, okay, maybe I'll pick a different one. What's a different one?

1:01:00

Now I feel bad. Oh, shoot. Yeah, who the heck do I pick?

1:01:03

Josh is wrong. There's so many good characters.

1:01:05

Oh, you know what? You know what? No, no, no. Your opinion is wrong.

1:01:08

You know what? Zuckus. He sucks. Zuckus.

1:01:10

That's an original trilogy character. How dare you?

1:01:13

Zuckus. He's one of the bounty hunters.

1:01:16

Yeah, I know. But what does he do? He just does nothing.

1:01:19

He stands there. How do you spell this? I'm trying to spell this now.

1:01:22

Zuckus is Z-U-C-K-E-S-S.

1:01:26

Do you have the fourth gen? So it's Mark Zuckerberg, but as a bounty hunter.

1:01:32

Actually, no. Zuck is like S-U, two C's.

1:01:36

Oh, right. Yeah, he looks like a fly. Yeah, he does.

1:01:38

What is their name? What is the name of their race? Yeah, I don't know.

1:01:41

It's fairly useless. Yeah, but he's useless.

1:01:43

Their race is actually pretty interesting because they're like bugs.

1:01:46

The cool thing about him is that he's got some really funny scenes

1:01:49

in Robot Chicken Star Wars. That's a redeeming thing.

1:01:53

Yeah. I got a good joke out of it.

1:01:55

OK, let's move on to the next one here.

1:01:59

Let's take a listen if it's going to play. Oh, here.

1:02:02

This one will play. OK. So, hi.

1:02:05

I'm here with Andrew.

1:02:07

All right, Andrew. Who shot first?

1:02:10

Greedo. Thank you.

1:02:14

That was so good. Thanks, Andrew.

1:02:17

Yeah, that's a good one. Are you guys more for the Han shot first,

1:02:23

or are you more for the newer George version, the Greedo shot first?

1:02:27

I have a Han shot first guy, and not just because it was the original,

1:02:30

like that was how it debuted, but because I actually think it makes a better story arc for Han Solo.

1:02:35

What about you, Kirk? I feel like I should wait

1:02:38

and then just disagree with Josh and keep this going on here.

1:02:41

No, I'm just kidding. You've got to stretch out the timeline.

1:02:44

I reckon Han shot first.

1:02:47

I'm in that camp, but I think it doesn't matter personally

1:02:51

because they both shoot at such a quick rate between each other

1:02:54

that it doesn't really matter who shot first. I think they both decided to shoot at the same time,

1:02:58

but Greedo was just off by a little bit. Here's the thing.

1:03:03

I like the idea that Han just kills a guy in cold blood,

1:03:06

but at the same time, I think from what we've seen in the Solo movie,

1:03:09

he's not a bad guy. But that's the point.

1:03:14

He's slowly gotten worse to the point before Luke finds him.

1:03:17

I guess so, yeah. But Kira says to him, I know who you truly are.

1:03:23

Solo is the guy who pretends to be the badass.

1:03:26

He's the guy who sits down in the booth and he's playing the bad boy.

1:03:30

He's like, I've got the ride, you got the money.

1:03:33

And it's right when they leave, right when Luke and Obi-Wan leave,

1:03:36

he's like, wow, look at that.

1:03:38

He got the money. He gets all excited and he breaks out of the silent monotone character

1:03:45

that he's been putting on as a personality.

1:03:49

He's the guy who pretends to be the grump, not the guy who's the cold blood killer.

1:03:53

But I think maybe if George wanted to change it for that reason,

1:03:58

I'll roll with it. But I'm not super strongly opinionated on this one.

1:04:01

I don't really care. Yeah. So who would shoot first, Han Solo or Indiana Jones?

1:04:06

Indiana Jones would shoot first. Yeah. In a world of...

1:04:09

Actually, he technically did shoot first, like very clearly in the first one.

1:04:12

Killed the guy with the sword, like cold blood. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:04:15

Exactly. Okay, here's another one.

1:04:19

Marcus Hoban. Awesome. All right, well, Marcus, so if you could create a character,

1:04:23

if you could be a character from any era of Star Wars,

1:04:27

which era do you think that you'd choose? It's definitely a hard one, but I think I'd go for like the Empire era there.

1:04:35

I'd be like on Rebel Alliance. Okay, you'd be Rebel.

1:04:37

Yeah. All right, okay. So we got a Rebel, which is me.

1:04:40

There you go. So that's awesome. We'll have a Rebel up in the place.

1:04:43

Thank you very much, man. Yeah, I just think it's like, you know, it was a time when like, you know,

1:04:47

the old government, like the Republic. It was like, well, I was having it down.

1:04:50

I was just trying to fight for something better.

1:04:53

Yeah. There you go, see? That's awesome.

1:04:56

Well, thank you very much, and we'll get you on the podcast.

1:05:00

All right, yeah, thank you for that. So what did, yeah, Kirk, why don't you kick us off?

1:05:05

What's yours? What's your take on that? Oh, I think the era is probably the hardest thing.

1:05:09

Oh, man, you've really thrown me under the bus here. I don't know where I would be.

1:05:13

I feel like I would want to exist right after Return of the Jedi.

1:05:18

So just after the Death Star has been defeated,

1:05:20

I feel like I would want to be some dude that I'd be a banker on Coruscant.

1:05:26

That's what I would be. Wow, very specific.

1:05:29

That's where the real money is. I don't know. Yeah, I'd be sipping, I'd be licking those ice creams,

1:05:36

like those glowing ice creams and going up to the rock every afternoon

1:05:40

at the center of Coruscant and sitting there and going back home with my banking job.

1:05:47

I would probably do, I mean, I would probably just do Clone Wars era

1:05:50

because that's definitely the most interesting. Realistically, though, it would be a pretty scary period of time to live in.

1:05:55

So maybe like just before that.

1:05:57

But I don't know, as far as like the actual names of the eras goes,

1:06:01

I guess so that you would be New Republic then,

1:06:03

and then I would probably be the fall of the Jedi.

1:06:05

And then, yeah, Blake, what about you? Which one did you pick?

1:06:08

Okay, you're going to have to forgive me because I was busy taking pictures of miniatures.

1:06:11

So what's the question? Which era would you like to live in?

1:06:13

What era do you live in? Well, I feel like living during the height of the Jedi

1:06:19

would probably be the most. High Republic? Reasonable time to live.

1:06:22

High Republic then? I don't think I'm quite High Republic.

1:06:24

Maybe like just before.

1:06:26

Fall of the Jedi then? Yeah. Yeah, okay. Yeah, same as me.

1:06:30

As far as like the surface of the galaxy.

1:06:32

However, I've always enjoyed the idea

1:06:36

of the Outer Rim lifestyle during the Empire.

1:06:39

Kind of a Han Solo-esque lifestyle, I think.

1:06:42

Fair enough, yeah. Interesting. Should be interesting. I might revise my answer and say I would be fascinated

1:06:47

to be a Jedi during like the proto-saber era.

1:06:50

Like with those battery packs and stuff. Oh, Dawn of the Jedi?

1:06:52

Like just like a Jedi, but with like the mild inconvenience

1:06:56

of having to recharge your lightsaber. That'd be interesting.

1:06:58

That would be great. Yeah, you're going to wear the backpack.

1:07:02

Actually, if you just lived in the Clone Wars era,

1:07:06

does that mean every time you woke up in the morning, there'd be this big like voiceover announcer

1:07:10

announcing what your day would be? I believe that's contractually obligated, yes.

1:07:17

Good morning. The weather is sunny outside.

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Today, you will walk in the bank. Get ready for some meetings later today.

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All right, we got one more. You will meet Kirk in the bank.

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Yeah, there we go. Oh, wait, that's not a question.

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That's just a video that Kyle sent. That's just wind.

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That's just a cool video he sent of like a glowing thing

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on the ground saying Darth Vader. Cool. Yeah.

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Okay, cool. That looks like it's... I think that's all the questions then.

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If you didn't hear your question,

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there is a chance that maybe it wasn't sent to us,

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in which case we're very sorry about that.

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But hopefully, we'll get a few more sent through from Kyle

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if there's any leftover. But yeah, I mean, otherwise, you all know,

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you can reach us at our email, swscapepodcast.gmail.com.

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You can send in a voicemail in the form of a voice memo.

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And yeah, if you have any of your own personal answers

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that you want to send in and share what era you would pick

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or what your favorite character was or whatever any of those questions were,

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definitely feel free to do that because we love to hear from everybody.

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So yeah, I think that's everything that we have to cover for today.

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I mean, we've got... It kind of blows me away to think about this,

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but it's less than a month to the acolyte,

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which is pretty crazy. Oh, wow, damn.

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June 4th on the Tuesday.

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So I guess that would be like midnight for the Wednesday.

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But yeah, I mean like... Was there a slump? I feel like there was a slump.

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Was there a slump right before Bad Batch of no new content?

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Yeah, well, I mean, Ahsoka was the previous thing.

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It was a couple of months, I guess. Yeah, it was at least for me,

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considering how consistent series have been

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for the last handful of years. It was a bit of a slump, I guess.

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We're back into the roll again. Especially because I guess we stretched a little bit

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because May the 4th was now a week ago.

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And now we've got, I guess it's like a month,

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a month and a bit, maybe close to two months. Yeah, a little bit.

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Yeah, I think it's just like just over a month, maybe,

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or just about a month, but yeah. Are we going to try to actually read another novel?

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I think it's a month, yeah. So we have Assange Ventress, What Happened?

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So we're going to take a look at Ventress's whole storyline,

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story arc, and then just do a very thorough breakdown sequentially

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what happened so far up until the most recent time

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that we've seen her in the Star Wars stories. We also have the Acolyte coming up as well.

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We have our guest appearances returning Jess Tompkins

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with her book, The Psychgeist of the Mandalorian.

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So that's going to be super exciting. That'll be super cool.

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Yeah, Molly's supposed to come back on as well.

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And so we're a big Mando fan, writes for Screen Rant,

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and does all the Star Wars articles that we have in the Star Wars news channel.

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And yeah, it's going to be a fun one.

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So that's coming up as well. Yeah, it'll be a good episode.

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Yeah, and then we got the Acolytes

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right around the corner after that. We might fit in something right before Acolyte

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and after that Mando chat.

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And then later in the summer, the Star Wars Outlaws game

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from Ubisoft launches on August 30th on Friday.

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So I just got Jedi Survivor or whatever.

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So I got to beat that first. Yeah, there seems to be a lot going on.

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And then who knows when, but Skeleton Crew

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is also supposed to release perhaps later this year.

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Of course, we don't know yet. But I mean, that's the next thing as well as Andor season 2.

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But I don't think Andor season 2 is coming out anytime soon.

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So we haven't seen like any information on that.

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But I mean, there's a lot of content and they probably want to get everything

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fitted nicely into a schedule. Yeah, for sure, for sure.

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What are you most looking forward to playing

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or seeing, Kirk, before we sign off here?

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What's your highlight next story?

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Outlaws is probably the next game I'm looking forward to

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in terms of things that are announced. I'm what they call cautiously optimistic with Acolyte,

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but I'm actually really keen just to see it because we haven't seen this era of Star Wars before.

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So that's probably the one I'm most looking forward just to check out, you know?

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Yeah, for sure. What about you, Blake? Actually, one more thing.

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I'm also excited for that new Lego movie.

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Oh, yeah. What's it called?

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The other holiday thing? It's like, yeah.

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But it's like about the, what is it?

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The galaxy's like getting mixed up or something.

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What was it, Kirk? What? Yeah, I forget it.

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Oh, no. Again, you throw me on the spot.

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Oh, hang on, hang on. I've got it here.

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Rebuild the galaxy. That's right. Rebuild the galaxy.

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Rebuild the galaxy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that like a build back better thing in Star Wars?

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It's like a... No, it's like... And then there's Darth Jar Jar.

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Yeah, there's... What? Darth Jar Jar is in...

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Yeah, yeah. Dude, they gotta make a minifigure for that.

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Yeah, they really did. They really should.

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They really should. I mean, if you have red lights here,

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you just give it to a Jar Jar figure and they... Yeah, but you get the official one.

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The official one with printing on the chest. The limited release.

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$600 Darth Jar Jar minifigure.

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Oh, man, that would be awesome. Oh, yes, that's gonna go on my wall.

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Yeah. I gotta say, Andor season two, of course.

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Definitely looking forward to that. That's probably a highlight.

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But yeah, that's gonna be awesome. I wanna get more cereal eating cereal.

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Yeah, cereal, cereal, cereal, cereal.

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Oh, that's right. See, now you guys are just doing better answers than me.

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I'm jealous. I wanna change vines. Well, as far as like stuff coming out,

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admittedly, Kirk, I'm also very excited to see what's gonna happen

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with this High Republic series, Acolyte.

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Because I think it has the most question marks around it.

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And I really, really, really want it to be good.

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Because I really love the idea of this era.

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Definitely. Yeah. Kirk, thanks so much for joining us this week.

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We'll see you in the next one. Good to be back.

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Thanks for having me. And thank you to our co-host, Blake.

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Thanks so much for coming on each week.

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Thank you, as always. And we will catch you in the next one.

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Sounds like a plan. We'll see you out there.

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