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Time to abandon ship.

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Oh no!

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Here we go! Can I persuade you to join us for a drink?

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It's a tradition.

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Here, here. Jar Jar, homie, my main man, quickly.

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Before the separatists attack, get into the escape pod.

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Hey! This is escape.

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Then where's the pod? This is escape pod!

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What a week it's been. We have a whole new trailer for a new animated series coming out on Disney Plus called Tales

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of the Empire. So we're gonna check that out.

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We've got Kirk in the escape pod as our guest this week.

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And as always, I'm your host, Josh.

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This is Star Wars Escape Pod.

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We're gonna be diving into not only Tales of the Empire trailer, but the next two episodes

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of The Bad Batch, which premiered last week on April 3rd.

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This is episode 10 and 11, Identity Crisis and Point of No Return.

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For those of you who haven't seen The Bad Batch, feel free to tune out after the Tales

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of the Empire breakdown.

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But we're gonna get into that one first and then hit The Bad Batch after.

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So it's great to have you along for the ride.

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Let's get into it. Another happy landing.

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Why do you seek imperial favor?

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Years ago, my people were all but destroyed.

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My anger gives me strength.

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It is that strength I offer the Empire.

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Offer accepted.

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I'm here to present you with an opportunity, Paris.

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Just be glad you're not a Jedi anymore.

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Your path is set, Morgan Elsbeth.

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I will fulfill my destiny.

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Mercy only breeds defeat.

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But I will help you overcome this weakness.

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Attack!

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You said the Empire would help to change things.

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Everything comes at a cost.

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My world has been burning.

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Since I was a child.

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You cannot stop what has begun.

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Now you must face one final test.

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To join us.

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It is time you meet your new master.

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Long live the Empire.

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I'm pretty excited.

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They waited so long to release this trailer.

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Let alone announce that this show was getting a release.

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A lot of us thought that Tales of the Jedi would go for a second season.

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Here we are with another spin-off show called Tales of the Empire.

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Once again, borrowing its name from a Star Wars expanded universe novel.

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It's pretty neat.

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We're seeing the return of Barriss Offee.

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A character that a lot of us have been wondering for a long time.

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Those fans of Clone Wars and stuff like that.

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Morgan Elsbeth, a character that recently had her demise in Ahsoka Season 1.

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A character that we were introduced to in the Mandalorian Season 2.

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It's pretty cool to see that come to fruition.

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It looks like it's going to be an 8 episode show.

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Which is slightly longer than the Tales of the Jedi show.

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Which I think was 6 episodes maybe.

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What are your thoughts on this show?

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I'm so excited for it.

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I loved how the end title sequence started off as Tales of the Jedi.

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Then it quickly burned away.

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That's a pretty good emphasis on the show.

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It was great.

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I'm a huge fan of Andor.

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This just seems like a more force-sensitive focus version of Andor.

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I'm really keen.

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I hope they release all the episodes at once.

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So we can just watch them all together.

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They do.

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I think the whole show just streams on May 4th.

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That's pretty cool.

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If I'm not mistaken, I think all the episodes come out that day.

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What's really cool about this trailer.

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At least from what we're looking at.

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Is two different time frames.

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But Morgan Elizabeth's story spans a larger time frame than Barriss Offee.

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For those who haven't seen the Clone Wars.

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Barriss Offee was the apprentice of Luminara Unduli.

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Who was a Jedi Master.

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Barriss fought in the Clone Wars.

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She fought in the Battle of Geonosis.

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She was a friend to Ahsoka Tano.

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Through most of the Clone Wars as well.

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Later on in Season 5.

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She frames her friend Ahsoka for bombing the Jedi Temple.

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Which was a pretty extreme way of her sending a message to the Jedi.

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About them not being who they're supposed to be.

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It was a very Jedi Republic political thing.

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Not much was said about it after that episode arc.

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Which was too bad.

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Because it was such a big deal and a big event.

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For a Jedi to betray their own and bomb the temple and stuff.

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I've always really liked that story arc.

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And I've always wondered what they would do with the character.

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There was a lot of speculation when Star Wars Rebels came out.

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That the Seventh Sister was actually Barriss Offee.

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Because she kind of had that skin tone.

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And she had the same sort of tattooed cheeks.

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And that character was played by Sarah Michelle Geller.

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So it was a different actress entirely.

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And it turned out not to be Barriss Offee.

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But yeah to this day.

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I think since Season 5 came out.

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Which was back in 2012 I want to say.

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We haven't had any follow up at all on Barriss' character.

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So it's really cool to finally get this story.

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Because I think so many of us had almost given up hope.

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That it would ever be revisited.

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But a lot of people wondered what happened to her after the Clone War.

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And where was she being held in prison this whole time.

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So we're finally getting that story.

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She's becoming one of the Inquisitors.

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We see a few familiar faces in there.

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Including the Fourth Sister.

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One of the Inquisitors that showed up in Obi-Wan Kenobi.

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Do you remember that one? The one with the sort of the yellow tentacles kind of like behind her head.

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Yes, yes, yes. Yeah.

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So she shows up. She looks like she's going to be playing a prominent role in the show as well.

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Perhaps as a mentor or whatever.

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Yeah. I kind of wish they were a little more unified with this whole Inquisitorious plot line.

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Because we've seen new stories pop up every now and again.

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That just kind of either changes the design to an Inquisitor or adds another one in the mix.

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And they just have no mention or indication that they're sort of part of the organization in earlier stories.

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Star Wars Rebels being the first to feature the Inquisitors much later in the timeline.

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They sort of disappear after a certain while.

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And while there's only a few of them left at that point.

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You kind of wonder, oh, who are all the other ones, right?

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And then these stories come out like the Darth Vader comic book series and Jedi Fallen Order.

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And you slowly start to be able to fill out, okay, this is the third brother, fourth brother, et cetera, right?

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But there's a book that we read, I think not too long ago now.

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I think it was last year.

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And it was called Inquisitor, Rise of the Red Blade.

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And it featured the Inquisitor called Iskat Secaris, I think her name was.

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And she was in the Darth Vader comic book.

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There was a bit of a tie in there with how she ends up.

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And I just really liked her like I liked her character a lot.

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But the book itself was not that great.

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Like it just didn't really fulfill, I guess, the expanse of just what they could have done with that character's psychology and just why a Jedi would kind of go bad.

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And there was no mention of Dooku at all.

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Like in this character's internal thoughts, there was no mention of this Jedi that once became a Sith Lord.

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Which I thought was kind of weird that it skipped over that whole thing.

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And it basically spanned the entire length of the Clone Wars and then some after.

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So there was weird things about the book that just kind of like didn't really sit as well with me.

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But of course, no mention of a character like Barriss.

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And you'd think that, you know, Barriss, this plot line here looks like it takes place very soon after Episode 3.

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So, you know, I would imagine that, you know, a character like this with a role like that would know about this other character.

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It's always tough, you know, making a saga that stories coming out at different points of time and all this and that.

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It's almost just a casualty of the nature of story building a saga, you know, at multiple points, you know, here and there, which I imagine is quite the challenge, right?

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I'm hoping we get a bit more of an insight on these inquisitors as a whole and the whole inquisitor program throughout this pretty short story series.

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But maybe there's room for an inquisitor specific show in the in the future.

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Right, right. Yeah, that would be I would really appreciate an inquisitor show or just anything that really kind of dives deeper into that plot line.

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Because the only problem I just realized with that is that I know some people complain that there are too many Jedi that are like alive.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And if you make an inquisitor show, you need to make more Jedi that are alive, I guess.

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That's the other thing. And not to mention that all the inquisitors were Jedi.

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Right. Like that's that's the other kind of shocking part of part of that whole brigade is is, you know, they were all once Jedi.

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So it's almost like I guess I don't know if it makes it like worse in universe, like, you know, like a more twisted tale to say that that many people were, you know, feeling the way that they did, that they aligned themselves with the Sith Lord.

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Or if it's just like, you know, getting out of hand in the sense that they do keep adding inquisitors to the group.

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And and and it's, you know, in a way, it's like, OK, like, when is it going to end?

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Like, when are we when are we going to hit our limit as far as introducing new inquisitorious characters?

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But, you know, I guess it's everyone's got the preference.

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I'm still undecided as to as to how I think about it, but I'm just really excited to see Paris back.

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I've always wanted her to be an inquisitor like the entire time that we've known that these characters exist.

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Like, I've always thought it would be such a great decision to make her one.

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But maybe they just haven't had the chance to tell that story up until now.

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So very cool to see Morgan Elizabeth on the other hand.

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I mean, like, you know, you remember her from Mando and Ahsoka?

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I mean, I sure do. And the problem I have with I think Morgan Elizabeth was an amazing character up until they I mean, spoilers for the show.

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If anyone hasn't hasn't seen it yet. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

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Like, yeah, I'm pretty sure that they they killed her off right at the end of Ahsoka.

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They did. Yeah. Yeah.

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So, yeah, the problem I have is like, oh, I just know what's going to happen with this character now.

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And it kind of makes me feel a little bit less impactful.

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I feel like before we saw her death, I wanted to see so much more of that character because she was so fascinating when she first turned up in episode five, season two of Mandalorian.

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I thought she was an awesome opponent as the city warden.

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We'll see. It looks like we're going to see a bit more of that at that town, because I think that's actually my favorite Mando episode out of all of them.

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I love that episode a lot. Right.

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So, yeah, I'm keen to see her a bit more, but it's just a bit of a shame that we know where where she ends up.

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But then again, I guess we do know about half these characters end up most of the time.

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Yeah. Yeah. So you're saying it would have been a better decision to to air that this show, I guess, prior to the ending of Ahsoka then, I guess.

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Yeah, it kind of just reminds me of, you know, in Force Awakens, they again, not more spoilers, but this is it's been seven years now and nine.

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It's been nine years now since the Force Awakens. Never mind.

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It's been a long time since Han Solo got killed by his son.

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And then like 18 months later, they then decide to do a movie about about Han Solo.

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So, I don't know, it kind of reminds me of that.

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But it doesn't really matter.

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They're just short stories and I'm kind of keen to see more about that town.

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That what's the city called?

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I don't know. It's wherever Mando finds Ahsoka finds Ahsoka from.

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Yeah, I totally forget the name of that that city.

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Man, yeah, I'm not entirely sure.

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But it's Chapter 13, The Jedi from season two.

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And it was a yeah, it was a great episode.

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I mean, it's Corvus.

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That's that's the name of the planet, planet Corvus.

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Corvus. Yeah. Yeah.

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Not to be confused with the Corvus ship in Battlefront.

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Right. Yeah.

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So something something that I noticed, at least from from this particular trailer was first, first off, like Young Thrawn.

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Very cool to see this lines up perfectly with Timothy Zahn's second Thrawn trilogy.

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Yeah. So if anyone's read Thrawn Alliances, big, big Thrawn novel out there features Anakin slash Vader on the cover,

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depending on which version you have.

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And he was there in the Clone Wars just as a very silent observer watching, you know, the galaxy.

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And he was sent out by the ascendancy, his because the Chiss ascendancy that where his home world and where he's from is from the very,

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very far outer reaches of space to the point where almost anyone in known territory, you know,

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it's kind of there's kind of whispers that these people are out there and that they exist, but like no one's really encountered Chiss before.

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So it's it's very cool to see him in his sort of Clone Wars era uniform.

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He's not yet aligned with the Empire typically.

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But it's very interesting to see him developing alliances with people like Morgan,

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which kind of bring in the relevance of that relationship later on, you know, when we watch a show like Ahsoka or such and such.

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Morgan is a Nightsister.

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And if anyone has seen season three of the Clone Wars, there is I think it's season three or season four.

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There's an arc in there where Grievous just comes in as a wrecking ball and just kills all the Nightsisters.

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Right. So it looks like we're going to be revisiting that plot and seeing more footage that takes place in that raid.

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They're going to be expanding upon that story a bit more than what we saw in the Clone Wars episode that we got.

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And it looks like maybe he's got like a full campaign of the planet that he's going to be like going around to different villages, you know,

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and taking all these other Nightsister clans. Right.

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Because we see him take out Mother Talzin's clan and where Ventress is.

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But we don't see him, you know, go ham on all the other parts of the planet.

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And it's a whole planet. Right.

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So there's Nightsisters kind of here and there.

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Like there's areas like where where Meren is from Fallen Order.

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And, you know, Meren is my favorite Nightsister.

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I think she's definitely got the best, the best character arc for sure.

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Nightsisters. She's fantastic.

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Totally, totally. They all have something in common, which is to basically like, you know, they all have something in common, which is like Grievous came in, killed all of them.

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So it looks like Morgan is going to be, you know, a survivor of that event, which as we know, she is.

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And, you know, she we see like droids just like burning down the forest in her home world and stuff like that.

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But we also get footage later on in her life, kind of like in the Star Wars Rebels era, where perhaps that's when she took, you know, she's part of the Empire ish now, I guess.

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Or somehow and, you know, takes over as magistrate.

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Or maybe she's not with the Empire and she's just aligned with Thrawn.

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And, you know, she she's in that town, like you said.

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And there's a shot of her troops like burning down the woods, which in the Mandalorian episode, we see the woods completely.

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You know, it's been burned, right? It's all been destroyed.

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So this story arc with Morgan, I think, is going to be very expansive in terms of like explaining just where she started and where she ended up in the Mandalorian show.

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So it's going to fill in all those gaps that we get, you know, that we that we don't have the story for yet.

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So I'm very much looking forward to that, too.

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Anything else you want to bring up for this show?

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I'm not particularly. I think General Grievous looks awesome.

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Oh, yeah. And from what I've seen in the trailers so far, he looks absolutely mad.

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I'd love to see. Now, that's that is a TV show.

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I would watch like a full length series or even a movie just on General Grievous throughout the throughout the Clone Wars.

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I think he's awesome. Imagine if they did a General Grievous, but like a horror or a Star Wars movie.

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That'd be great. Oh, man. Yeah.

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How he like subjects himself to like the surgery to make him a cyborg and stuff like, oh, man, that'd be awesome.

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It'd be so good. It'd be so good.

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What else is there? I think that's about it in the trailer.

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I think there was one scene I noted when they had the Grand Inquisitor through the lightsaber into the pit for the battle for the Inquisitor.

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I thought that was pretty pretty badass, pretty gladiator type fighting.

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Just reminds me that, yeah, these are they're absolutely not targeting children and stuff for these shows anymore.

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I guess that's what the what's the new Young Jedi Academy show?

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Oh, yeah. Young Jedi Adventures. Yeah.

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Isn't that interesting, though, like those those shows, they are so very obviously targeted for kids.

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But like 10, 12 years ago, the Clone Wars was more so targeted for kids.

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Yeah, like the divide of how different these pieces of content is like so great.

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Oh, definitely. It's a noticeable difference between these kids and those kids, right?

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It's like different age group for sure.

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But yeah, it's it's nice to get shows like this, which are also very much for teenagers, adults and anyone that anyone can enjoy.

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Because, yeah, I do find it a bit of a struggle to get through Young Jedi Adventures.

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I'm going to be honest, I've watched half the show, but it's a hard pill to swallow.

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That's the 3D animated one, isn't it?

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It's not the rise. It's not rise of resistance.

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No, it's not. It's not resistance. No, no.

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But I had a hard time with that one, too.

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Yeah. All right. So it doesn't quite push forward the canon there, does it?

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Yeah, exactly. Actually, you know, that was something I appreciated about it was it did fill in some gaps here and there.

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But but most of the show, I thought was a bit fluffy.

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But there you go. Tales of the Jedi coming out May 4th release, possibly eight episodes featuring Barriss and Morgan.

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Lots of stories that we're looking forward to.

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And I'm going to play a quick message here and then we'll dive into the bad batch.

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Well, there we go. Thanks, tomorrow. Thanks, tomorrow.

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All righty. Well, shall we get into the bad batch?

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Let's do it. Let's do it. All right.

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It turns out the some for some reason, the main theme song is gone from the soundboard.

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That was me singing. Just to enhance anyone. It was so good.

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Yeah, exactly. Yeah, of course, it wouldn't wouldn't be Star Wars Escape all without the main theme song.

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So, you know, that's yeah. Thank you, Kirk. But here we go. Here it is.

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Here we go. All right. Episode 10 of season three, Identity Crisis, was written by Sol Ruiz and directed by or was it directed by Sol Ruiz, written by Amanda Rose Manu came out April 3rd.

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Hemlock has had Nala Say imprisoned, believing she helped Omega and Crosshair escape.

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He reluctantly promotes Emery to be the new lead scientist of Project Necromancer.

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Emery slowly becomes disillusioned with the Empire as she learns that the subjects being tested on are children with high end counts and witnesses the cold brutality of how they are being treated.

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She also sees Cad Bane deliver a new child subject who's even younger than the others.

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Tarkin threatens to take away Hemlock's funding if his facility does not produce the desired results.

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CX2 reports to Hemlock that he is close to finding Omega after learning about her connection to Phi.

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So there we go. That's the summary for episode 10. What did you think about this one?

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I think this was a pretty, pretty nice episode. It's a bit of a divert.

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There's no bad batch at all in this episode, but I think they're setting up episode 12, which is the one after the next one we'll talk about because I'm sure as things will happen, we'll see.

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We'll see where it goes. But it was not a bad episode. I think it was just give us a bit more insight into the Project Necromancer.

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But then again, it didn't give us too much insight on to what's going on behind there.

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I really liked the inside look finally behind that red laser tunnel that we've been getting glimpses at this whole time, you know, wondering kind of what's back there.

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And it turns out it's just a bunch of kids with a high end count. And at first I thought, really, that's it?

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And then and then I guess I don't know what it was about it, but I just thought, man, this is really come full circle like this is actually really like kind of twisted on, you know, in the sense of the empire.

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But very, very well appropriately placed in terms of story, because anyone anyone who's seen Clone Wars will remember that Palpatine's always always had a thing for kidnapping children and using them for his own gain.

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And one of the plot lines was actually with Cad Bane initially in season two of the Clone Wars.

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There was a an arc called the Holocron Heist and Cad Bane has to break into the Jedi temple, steal a Holocron from the archives and then get a special Kyber crystal, which one particular Jedi has, which has the names of all the future Jedi inscribed on it.

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And or all the candidates, I guess, and all the ones they found and has to kill him for that crystal and then find a Jedi, a living Jedi to put the crystal in the Holocron so that they can access the list.

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And via that list, he's able to kidnap a couple of these younglings, very, very young, like small, you know, too young to go to the Jedi temple yet, but they're still with their parents.

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And they're probably, you know, one, two years old kind of thing.

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And I think he kidnaps like a Rodian and like two other kids, and he takes them to a lab on Mustafar and Anakin and Ahsoka are highly involved in this plot line.

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And they end up going and rescuing the kids.

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Cad Bane gets away and they never find out, you know, who's behind it.

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But, you know, Palpatine was behind all along.

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And he and he says to Cad Bane in that in that story arc, like, I have seen army of young Jedi.

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You know, he kind of goes on and on about, you know, like all his evil deeds and everything like that.

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But do you remember that story by any chance?

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I have to admit, I don't remember that story.

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That dates back before my memory.

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I'll have to go back and have a look. OK, yeah. So so like, you know, children have always kind of been part of Palpatine's evil deeds.

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You know, it's whether it's like turning him into like his own agents or whatever kind of makes sense.

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If we're still going with the theory that Palpatine has foreseen his death and he's looking for a way to continue his cloning, his experimentation,

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which which Project Necromancer flows into the Mandalorian thing with Moff Gideon and that cloning procedure there.

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So assuming that this is Palpatine's thing and, you know, originally all along and he's trying to make clones of himself,

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you know, it would explain that he would naturally kind of rely on innocent children that can't really fight back to experiment with, you know.

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And they're they're trying to find the right concoction of M count and blood type to, I guess, use to source for for his clone, you know,

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like for a viable body, I guess that would produce, you know, something for him.

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And, you know, within Star Wars lore, cloning of force force people, you know, or people who have who have high M count and can use the force are very difficult to do.

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So, you know, it's interesting. I like the fact that they're kind of extensively going on this this long train ride, you know, as to like how that has to be done and who they need.

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And Omega happens to be the right person for for this experiment to work.

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So that's why we get this tug of war back and forth constantly with with Omega and all this and that.

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But, yeah, it's very, very neat and neat to see, you know, a character like Emery sort of be awakened to the the evil deeds of of the Empire and the Emperor's like experiments.

25:47

That was kind of kind of neat to get into. What did you think of that?

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Like her character kind of developing into this, you know, I guess someone who's able to care a little bit more.

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She gives that one kid Omega's like stuffy that she made out of straw.

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And I don't know, did you did you get any like prison Andor vibes from this episode or any any kind of a little a little bit?

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Obviously, the one thing that this has that Andor doesn't have is you've got Emery that's a bit more empathetic towards these characters that are stuck or these kids that are stuck into the into in the prison.

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I think what was fascinating to me was Emery's conversation with Nalise when she went to go visit him, her, it, whatever, whatever the it is.

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I thought that conversation was interesting. I'm very much so expecting Emery now to free and release these kids or attempt to and she might die trying in a future episode.

26:42

But yeah, I think it was I think it was quite good.

26:44

But going back to what you're saying before, when they opened up the gates and went and it was revealed that they were storing four children in there.

26:50

I think I was expecting something a little bit more grander.

26:53

Like I was expecting when Obi-Wan visited Fortress Inquisitorius and there was all of those Jedi frozen in that, you know, resin looking collection when he when he saw all that when he was going to rescue Leia.

27:08

I was expecting something a little bit similar to that, like all these like Jedi maybe hooked up to stuff and them trying to take out, you know, midichlorians from them and all these other things.

27:16

A little more matrix. It seemed like a big climate.

27:18

Yeah, something a little bit more like, I mean, not to say that Palpatine, you know, kidnapping, experimenting on force sensitive children is a wonderful thing.

27:27

It most certainly is not. But I was expecting something a little bit grander and a little bit.

27:31

Right. There's more reasons for it to be under that significant amount of protection.

27:35

I feel you. I think was it in the second or maybe, yeah, maybe the third episode when Palpatine visited the base.

27:41

Is it Hemlock? What's the guy's name?

27:44

Yeah, Hemlock, the guy in charge there.

27:46

That's right, with the really terrible haircut.

27:48

When he got Palpatine behind the closed doors and we didn't see what was happening, he just like walked in there and showed Palpatine a bunch of these kids.

27:57

Like, that's hardly worth Palpatine to kind of come all the way down for.

28:01

I wouldn't too agree. But anyway, maybe I'm just over expecting stuff, I guess.

28:05

No, I totally agree in that sense.

28:07

Like, on the one hand, I like the fact that it involves kids.

28:12

I think what you're also hoping for is what I was hoping for as well.

28:17

Just a little something a little darker, you know, like them maybe strapped to these sort of like life, you know, draining systems where you got tubes coming out of them with fluids flowing.

28:26

And although I think that would probably be a little too dark for a kids show, but, you know, especially considering that they are kids.

28:33

Yeah, exactly.

28:35

I know what you mean, though. I know what you mean.

28:37

It's a really fine line here. Yeah, it's a fine line as to what to expect from this level.

28:42

But yeah, I mean, I totally agree in that sense.

28:45

Like, you know, I'm thinking of like you're thinking of one of those machines that maybe Palpatine was like suspended to an episode nine, right?

28:51

But maybe like. Yeah, something like that.

28:53

Yeah. Just even if it wasn't any kids in there, I was hoping that like he has like that's his tomb where he's transferred all the Jedi from or something.

29:01

I'm not sure. Maybe Mace Windu could have been in there.

29:03

Who knows? That would that would be interesting.

29:05

That would have been cool. Yeah, that would have been super cool because they've been building this up for a long time.

29:10

Yeah, they have. So I don't know.

29:12

We'll say I think this episode is going to kind of we'll talk about the next episode in a second, but I think it's going to directly impact the episode following what's currently available right now.

29:23

So episode 12. Oh, for sure.

29:25

Yeah. Pablo points of produce for this one.

29:27

What would you give it? Oh, I'm going to give this one a one Pablo point one point.

29:32

Yeah, I would go there, too.

29:34

I think one was good. Just just a solid good.

29:37

All right. Let's let's hit the next one.

29:39

So the next one is called episode 11 point of no return by by Nate Villanueva and Amanda Rose Menno again, April 3rd, 2020, 2024, cx2 who is that's the clone that's that's the assassin guy that we saw dive off a waterfall.

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He infiltrates fees ship and retrieves Pablo's location from the navic computer concerned about the risk of staying on Pablo.

30:04

The bad batch are prepared to leave the planet when cx2 arrives and confirms their presence.

30:08

He destroys the marauder seriously injures wrecker and calls for reinforcements with their means of escape cut off.

30:14

The rest of the bad batch evade their pursuers while hunters tries to steal an imperial gunship.

30:19

After Hunter fails, Omega decides to surrender herself to spare the people of Pablo and enable the bad batch to follow her to Tantus.

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However, cross hairs attempt to plant a tracker on the ship.

30:30

Omega is captured in fails and cx2 leaves with Omega.

30:34

So this was very much an action based episode.

30:37

I mean, from the get go, you know, cx2 finds them, sabotages their plan to leave the planet.

30:41

And it's just basically a big action fest from there.

30:44

You know, tug of war, like you said earlier with with Omega.

30:47

What were your thoughts on this episode?

30:49

Yeah, it was very much a tug of war episode.

30:51

I got signing into this episode.

30:53

I didn't expect Omega to to be handed off.

30:56

I was expecting them to escape as per usual.

30:59

So that was actually kind of I was actually right with that, that that happened.

31:03

But yeah, I think we're into the season finale now.

31:06

Is that right? Episode going into episode 12?

31:09

Well, I think episode 15 is going to be the last one.

31:13

But we only have like three, three left.

31:16

Three left, though. That's not that much.

31:18

Yeah. So this is still a decent bit.

31:21

Yeah. There's another decent bit.

31:23

I think it's pretty obvious what will happen next episode in terms of the bad batch having

31:27

to regroup and try and find Omega or prepare to go find her now that she's been taken.

31:33

I thought it was a pretty OK episode, although I must say, like the whole episode being set

31:37

at night time, I for some reason I felt it was so dark I couldn't see as much as usual.

31:42

But I guess that's just a creative choice.

31:45

In terms of story wise, I think it was pretty predictable.

31:49

And I felt that we are getting that real sense of tug of war.

31:53

Like we lost Omega at the start of season three and then she's come back and now she's gone again.

32:00

How much longer can this go?

32:03

At least she went willingly this time to spice things up.

32:06

Right. Yeah, I agree with it.

32:08

And, you know, I was thinking about it just the other day, how much more it would be beneficial

32:13

to this show to have a sort of non-dedicated plot line.

32:18

You know, we've seen so much of Omega in the bad batch.

32:21

What I miss about Clone Wars is that that show jumped around a lot with characters and plot lines

32:27

and stuff, and you got you got all the different coverage, right?

32:30

You got coverage of Grievous.

32:32

You got coverage of Dooku and Ventress and Palpatine and Maul and Ahsoka and Anakin and Obi-Wan

32:38

and Yoda, all these characters that got their spotlight at some point.

32:43

And there's so many interesting characters in this time frame, including Jedi on the run

32:48

and the empires on the rise.

32:50

And as nice as it is to see the bad batch and Omega, the more that this kind of tug of war thing

32:56

happens with Omega and them constantly on the run, it's really not changed a whole lot.

33:01

And it's just I hate to say it, but it's sort of getting a little stale with them going back

33:06

and forth constantly, you know, with her capture and then her, you know, her being saved

33:11

and then her capture again. And, you know, whether it's Bounty Hunter or Empire or whatever, it just seems to constantly be,

33:18

you know, the issue that they've been fighting for like close to three seasons now.

33:22

And I don't know. You know, it's like I'm kind of glad that this show is ending, not in like a bad way or not.

33:27

I don't know. I like I've enjoyed it, but I think they can move on to some better some better stories.

33:33

Maybe do it. I'm glad you're saying this because it doesn't mean I'm just feeling the same way.

33:37

Maybe I was holding back a bit. It is just the same stuff over and over again.

33:41

We just get just for three seasons now, they've been on the run and Echo's been sorry, not Echo.

33:46

Omega has been one of the main cause of targets, I guess.

33:49

I think the only thing that really differs from this season is that we're actually getting a bit more

33:53

of a relationship between Crosshair and Omega.

33:56

But the other characters have kind of been sidelined in my opinion.

33:59

Yeah. And yeah, we're just getting this cat and mouse game of who can catch Omega.

34:03

Yeah, yeah. And and that being said, like, you know, to anyone out there thinking like, I'm just a hater or whatever.

34:08

But no, I'm like, I've enjoyed the Bad Batch.

34:10

It's good. It's been cool to see a sort of a legacy show of the Clone Wars continue, you know, and and the Bad Batch

34:17

was a group of characters that was invented under the George Lucas Supervision era of the Clone Wars.

34:22

Right. So we're seeing kind of at the end of an era with this show.

34:25

And and I'm looking forward to seeing how it wraps up.

34:28

But at the same time, I'm also looking forward to moving on to stories within this same timeframe,

34:33

but that focus on other characters that are very interesting because, yeah, I think we've hit our limit

34:38

as far as what they can do with these characters that we've had so far over the course of three seasons.

34:43

And and there's been some really great storylines with characters kind of, you know, betraying the other

34:48

like like Crosshair and then coming back again.

34:51

And we've seen, you know, story storylines with with with with Echo and and Rex and some of those clone

35:00

commandos that we've seen that we see later in Rebels like Gregor.

35:03

And it's been neat to see that kind of story.

35:06

Right. And Cody, we got to see Cody back.

35:08

So that was pretty cool.

35:10

So there's been a lot of like good moments throughout the show.

35:12

But I think it's time.

35:14

You know, like I think the show is just kind of hitting its limit for me in terms of like what it can do more of.

35:19

And this sort of this week is kind of that was it for me.

35:22

Like the fact that she gets captured yet again and now they're going to be that we know what's going to happen.

35:27

Like we know they're going to be going off after her and we know they're going to try and save her.

35:31

And unless this show takes a left turn completely and surprises all of us.

35:36

Right. And then it's like, you know, a huge surprise that maybe they don't capture her and maybe she does end up

35:41

dying or whatever, which I highly doubt they'll do.

35:43

But but I mean, I feel like they need to do something pretty drastic for me to actually, you know, come around to be like, OK,

35:49

maybe the show doesn't need to end.

35:51

But but the fact that it is the final season, the fact that I just realized that Cad Bane was in the last episode.

35:58

I totally forgot. Yeah, yeah.

36:00

Yeah, Cad Bane. We haven't seen Cad Bane yet.

36:04

I've been discussing it, but I just realized Cad Bane, Cad Bane's in it.

36:09

Yeah, I think you're right. I think I still really like the show.

36:12

That's why I'm, you know, catching up with it every week as it comes out.

36:15

I think this is probably could have been wrapped up in two seasons or so now, minus a bit.

36:20

But they better in the next few episodes really make some big moves story wise with Project Necromancer, in my opinion, for this for this to be worth it.

36:29

Right. Yeah. And if they don't, then I assume that there's going to be a follow up show to this show, but called something else and, you know, with other characters.

36:36

A spin off of the spin off of the spin off.

36:38

Exactly. Or they'll pull a Barasoffe.

36:40

We won't find the answer to Project Necromancer for another 10 years or so.

36:44

10 years. Yeah.

36:47

Yeah, hopefully not. I'll be like almost 40 by then.

36:51

What would you reward this episode?

36:53

By the way, anyone who doesn't know, Paula Points of Poodoos, it's a scale of seven.

36:57

Three Paula Poodoos is the worst of the worst.

36:59

Moving up there, you got two Paula Poodoos, one Paula Poodoos, and then a Bendu, which is a 50 percent.

37:04

And then you got Paula Points, which is one, two and three.

37:07

Three being the best of the best of the best.

37:09

One Paula Point being good, two being great, three being, you know, the number one.

37:13

So what would you give this one?

37:16

I think I'm going to give this one, even though I technically for some reason think I enjoyed the action of this episode more than the previous one.

37:24

Previous one was a bit more fresher.

37:26

So I think I'm going to give this one a Bendu.

37:28

I'm going to go straight in the middle. Yeah, fair enough.

37:30

Yeah, I think I would go with a Bendu too.

37:32

I think like the action was cool, but that was that was a lot of just what this episode had was like it was good action.

37:38

And if I was just going off of like action and effects and animation, like this would be a three Paula Point.

37:44

Like this show consistently is visually and audibly amazing.

37:48

Looks amazing. It looks amazing.

37:50

Yeah, it's the best produced. It's like the best quality show that they've done.

37:54

You know, like Skywalker Sound operates on this show and they do amazing work.

37:59

And like it's like the team at Lucas Animation has nailed it persistently.

38:03

So, you know, but I mean, for a Star Wars story in its in its entirety.

38:08

Yeah, I think I think I'm going to give this one a Bendu as well.

38:10

So but yeah, not not to diss any any other part of making that show because it is truly a spectacle.

38:16

Absolutely. So hopefully we're getting there with that one.

38:20

Yeah, I think so.

38:22

Imagine if they just like redid the prequel trilogy, like kept all the sound, but like redid all the visuals in this.

38:29

I would go to the biggest theater and watch it like that.

38:33

I think that'd be incredible. That would be. Yeah, that would be incredible.

38:36

And get them thinking about it.

38:40

Well, that's all we got for this week.

38:44

So thank you. Thank you, Kirk, for popping back on.

38:46

And is there any last minute things you want to bring up?

38:52

I don't think I have too much in terms of predictions for the next few episodes.

38:56

I just hope we get some advancements with Necromancer and on.

39:02

Oh, my goodness. I've already forgotten her name, but the Sith appeared in Asard's Ventress.

39:06

Are we going to get any more of her or is that it?

39:09

Yeah, that's a good question. I mean, this show is on the way out the door with season three.

39:13

So I assume that they have plans for another animated show, at least with her being either a main star or perhaps another show kind of like Clone Wars.

39:23

But in in the Empire era, maybe it'll called called Rise of the Empire or something like that.

39:28

Who knows? But it's it's yeah, it leaves me with a lot of questions because there's really no time to wrap up so many of these character storylines.

39:38

There. Yeah, I'm I really may not get it, but we'll see.

39:45

Yeah, I guess we'll have to wait and find out an odd one episode inclusion.

39:49

Totally, totally. All right, buddy, we'll see in the next one or the one after that at the force be with you and you.

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