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Minutes. Acolyte Assessment.

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The Acolyte Assessment. Is that

0:36

what it was? Anyway, I'm Alex Robinson. I'm

0:40

Pete the retailer. And today

0:42

we're talking about episode four of Disney's

0:45

The Acolyte. I believe this one was

0:47

just called Day. Day?

0:50

Oh. I

0:53

wonder why I didn't see the title. I don't think. I

0:56

think it was just called Day. I don't know why they

0:58

dropped the slash titles. It seems like it was a good

1:00

kind of gimmick. Yeah

1:05

I thought that was going to be the routine. I

1:09

guess once they realize they're a twin,

1:11

then it's like, oh well, you

1:14

get it. Yeah, it's just called Day. Day. When

1:17

is it called Day? Maybe

1:20

next week is going to be called Night. Maybe

1:23

they split the atoms. K-N-I-G-H-T.

1:27

Well anyway, I wrote a summary. I didn't do this

1:29

for any of the other episodes. Go

1:33

for it. And

1:35

also it's to remind myself because I watched it. Osha

1:38

changes her mind and decides to join the

1:40

Jedi who are trying to catch Mae when

1:43

she tries to kill Kel'Nekka the

1:45

Wookiee. Is that his name? Kel'Nekka?

1:47

Kel'Nakka. Kel'Nakka. And

1:50

then Mae and Jason from the Good peer to

1:52

the Wookiee and the Jedi. Unfortunately when she gets

1:54

to the hut, all of these Wookiees I

1:56

did, the Jedi arrive, but

1:58

they're all joined by a Cloaked figure

2:01

with a red lightsaber. Mm-hmm.

2:04

Looks like a Kylo Ren cosplayer but

2:07

also like a little bit like a One

2:10

of the mousers from Ninja Turtles with

2:12

the comic book. I don't know

2:14

what that is. Yeah It's

2:18

got big kind of like almost looks like he's got big

2:21

Steel like a like a grill like

2:23

steel teeth going all around. Yeah. Yeah

2:27

Yeah So yeah, I

2:29

think you think this was a Kylo Ren idea

2:31

This this is like in the Kylo Ren idea

2:33

pile. Okay. Yeah, let's just use this for the

2:36

I mean They must

2:38

even have designed every conceivable bad

2:41

guy black armor between the Knights

2:43

of Ren and him. So anyway

2:47

Well, here's gonna tell me if I'm off

2:50

base in thinking this oh you

2:52

can always be assured I will do that and

2:56

I also Apologize if this is

3:02

Kind of it's not spoiling because I

3:04

don't know anything but if I make somebody think

3:06

about this and Then

3:08

later it turns out to be something that they would be

3:10

surprised by but then they're like, oh Pete said that

3:12

was gonna Be like that like I'm sorry but

3:15

did you get the vibe from this episode

3:17

that Jason

3:19

Mendoza is the Sith Lord

3:21

I Definitely

3:24

got that feeling okay, I

3:27

know what you're talking about because I think

3:30

I Saw

3:33

online someone speculating about that and I was

3:35

like it does it does see like it

3:38

I thought I'd the same thing with I think like

3:40

a like last week or at

3:42

some point I was like Oh,

3:45

I don't want to speculate this because it's I don't

3:47

want to I don't want to you know I hate

3:49

people do that kind of anyway. Yeah, but yes, I

3:52

totally agree with I mean It's like one of those

3:54

things like a game of clue where you're just like,

3:56

okay, we're running out of suspects So

3:58

as to who it's gonna be, you know I mean and also I Think

4:02

even with episode two when he was like she goes

4:04

to talk to him and he's like well You know

4:06

the master is gonna be really bad and and

4:09

she's like what did you do that you own him? He's like

4:11

don't worry about it. You know like I feel

4:13

I totally feel like he's the bad guy, right?

4:16

So but I don't know if this is the kind of thing where

4:18

they're kind of like Like

4:21

one of the reveals where they're doing it dribs

4:23

and drabs and to let every Yeah,

4:26

well for a second at the end there. I thought that he was

4:29

gonna Like take off his

4:31

helmet and it was gonna be him and we're gonna be

4:33

like, oh good like they just gave me a little a

4:36

little hint of feeling like I was smart for a second,

4:38

but then it ended and that's I

4:41

don't know Star Wars to feel smart. I

4:43

feel like they'll stretch that out until episode 8. He

4:46

will not get demasked Who

4:48

knows but they might also be you

4:51

know Depending

4:53

on how clever they are they might be pointing

4:55

everything at him So we're all like it's obviously

4:57

him but they're gonna totally undermine our expectations and

4:59

it's gonna be you know a young

5:02

Chewbacca mmm under there Yeah,

5:06

don't you back? So

5:10

yeah speaking of Chewbacca we open up with

5:12

our old Wookiee friend here Kel

5:15

Naka and I know

5:18

it seemed like a yin-yang sign was in

5:20

that Yeah stuff that he

5:22

was putting up there and I was like, oh, it's kind

5:24

of weird that they're Yeah,

5:28

yeah, they should really like they said it's just like

5:30

change it up a little bit to make it look

5:33

You know, but I think I mean that's what Is

5:36

that not? Related to

5:38

the kind of brand tattoo

5:41

thing that may got right aren't they

5:43

it's a similar design But with that

5:45

kind of oh, I don't remember I

5:47

could be wrong. I Think hers

5:49

is alternate hers is the black

5:51

what they switched them one is black and almost white

5:54

and should the other ones are black And the other

5:56

one is the other one. Can't you see we're black

5:58

on the right side in there? But,

6:05

let's see, how's top trending searches in

6:07

Wikipedia? How is, how is freaking the

6:09

acolyte not one of them? As

6:12

of this recording, incidentally, one

6:14

of the things that is trending on,

6:17

trending on Twitter is the idea of

6:19

Sydney Sweeney playing Sebulba's wife in a

6:21

Star War. Is

6:25

there a Mrs. Sebulba? If this

6:27

was earlier, if this

6:30

was like five years ago, that totally would have happened

6:32

based on, you know, that would have been like the

6:34

morbid time where they're like, oh, the internet says they

6:36

want this, we got to do it, we got to

6:38

have her being Mrs. Sebulba, wherever the, she was probably,

6:40

she wasn't the it girl at the time, so it

6:42

would have been someone else. Whoever it was.

6:45

I don't know who that is other than I've heard the name, so. Did

6:47

you see, oh yeah, I can't think

6:50

of what, did you see, what, you didn't see what, did

6:52

you see White Lotus? No. Okay.

6:55

You didn't see Newphoria. No.

6:57

And you didn't see Madame Web. No.

7:00

She was also on Handmaid's Tale, but she had

7:02

a very small part, so. Oh, there you go.

7:04

So you would be completely ignorant as to Sydney

7:06

Sweeney's comment. I would just be like, oh, that's

7:08

Mrs. Sebulba, and then I'd go watch one of

7:10

those other things. Like, hey, Mrs. Sebulba's in that

7:12

White Lotus show. Well, that's the way you like

7:14

it, right? You want, you want all the. That

7:16

is the way I like it. So basically you

7:18

can watch Star Wars things and then you get

7:21

more actors released to you as it goes, because

7:23

okay, now you can watch. Exactly. You

7:25

know, things and other people. So

7:27

we go to cut back to another

7:29

Jedi class going on here and

7:33

it's all doing his, you know,

7:35

do the Jedi ever set a desk, do you think? No,

7:37

wait, there's somebody else, right? This

7:39

last was somebody, it was like a

7:42

guy who I thought was, you know,

7:44

I don't see.

7:47

Oh, maybe I didn't write it down. So maybe. Yeah,

7:49

I know. It was a guy who looked kind

7:51

of like Buddy Murphy, the wrestler, but not, or

7:53

like that one of

7:55

those redhead guys from Game

7:57

of Thrones. Oh, you're right. You're right.

7:59

Okay. I know you're talking about that. Yes, you're right.

8:01

Not a Nope,

8:04

Jedi Master. Jedi Master, Lax'Shea.

8:08

Lax'Shea. Lax'Shea.

8:10

Jedi Master, Lax'Shea. He's

8:14

over combat training, but portrayed

8:17

by Paul Bouillon. Paul Bouillon.

8:19

Yeah, so, but

8:21

anyway, so he's teaching a class. Not to...

8:24

Well, my question still stands to we never

8:26

see the Jedi ever sit at desks or

8:28

are they always... Is this a commentary

8:31

on education? Or is it that desks

8:36

have not been invented? Only Palpatine can sit behind

8:39

a desk. Right, that's what they say. That's that

8:41

old expression. Yeah,

8:47

you would think that they would have study. Cho'Kastanoo

8:50

should be teaching some... She's

8:52

a young lady at this point, right? She should

8:55

be teaching some kids to read. She's

8:59

Cho'Kastanoo very new. Oh. Yeah,

9:03

I guess even Cho'Kastanoo wouldn't be alive at this point.

9:06

Assuming that she has written a human lifespan. I don't

9:08

know. I

9:10

wouldn't assume that. I wouldn't

9:12

assume too much. I

9:15

don't like so, sorry, Osha is talking

9:17

to one of her Jedi friends there,

9:19

one of her ex-Jedi, one of her

9:22

ex-schoolmates. And she's like, next

9:24

time we're here we'll have to go to the cantina. Yeah, she's talking

9:27

to Cheki-Lan.

9:29

It's not just one of her ex-schoolmates.

9:32

It's Cheki-Lan. It's Padawan. It's

9:36

one of her former Padawan friends. She was one

9:38

of the standout characters

9:40

from the show. The

9:42

cool character. She's talking

9:44

to some person. Sorry,

9:46

I didn't mean to do that. You won a pod race against

9:49

some weird thing that walked

9:51

on his legs. See, that's the thing with Star Wars,

9:53

you never know which minor characters are going to turn

9:55

out to be someone's favorite one. But

9:59

anyway. The point is I didn't

10:01

like the fact that they referred to a bar

10:04

as a cantina on Coruscant Right,

10:07

it doesn't it's just like

10:09

that's become like the generic Star Wars

10:11

term for a bar Yeah, you

10:13

think it's because they don't like they Disney

10:16

would feel uncomfortable like two teenagers Yeah,

10:20

I guess cantina keeps it kind of big See

10:24

how old is Jackie lon She's

10:26

50 She's

10:31

50 born 150 BBY. This

10:33

is a hundred BBY and she's only a pattern

10:35

one 132

10:40

BBY is when this takes place. Yeah, and

10:42

she was born in 150. So what is that?

10:44

Oh 18? Okay That

10:48

tracks more But

10:51

who what's the person who plays her? I Didn't

10:56

even know the characters name you expect me to pull the name

10:58

of the actress who played her Jackie

11:00

lon By

11:03

Daphne keen I doesn't say

11:05

how old she is She

11:10

was x23 in Logan, didn't you see Logan

11:12

I did see Logan You

11:15

played x23. That's Laura. That's the little

11:17

girl. That's the girl that is that

11:20

look that's the gro-goo of the Logan

11:22

movie The Logan girl goo.

11:24

Good for her Jackie lon

11:26

the Logan girl goo Down

11:30

you got a girl Gershwin There's

11:34

a meeting yes There's a meeting of the Jedi here

11:37

and I wrote down Coruscant deep

11:39

space nine because it's a bunch of Jedi's

11:41

with very Star Trek II looking

11:44

Yeah head to head decor Yeah,

11:47

see they're like, oh that one's got slightly

11:49

unfashionable hair And that one's got like an

11:51

appliance on his nose Let's

11:54

go to H makeup. That seems doesn't seem

11:56

very convincing. Yeah, you

11:58

brought up What's

12:00

her name? Venez? Vanessa? Is that the name

12:02

of the green skinned? Oh, yeah,

12:04

Vernestra. Whoa You brought up last

12:06

time you were you were slightly

12:09

critical of her acting because suspected that she

12:11

might have slept her way into the role

12:13

by being the Wife

12:15

of the producer or wife of somebody.

12:18

Yeah the Director's wife.

12:20

Oh the creator creator of the show Leslie

12:22

Hedlund. Okay, her wife is Rebecca

12:24

Henderson and I so I was particularly watching

12:27

it now Just try to notice

12:29

it and she does have a very It's

12:35

I kind of like it actually because it's almost like

12:39

It's it's odd it's it's a

12:41

weird she does like like very I don't

12:44

know theatrical type flourishes Seems

12:49

like like every single word coming

12:52

out of her mouth. She feels like it's the most important

12:54

thing that's ever been said Yeah,

12:56

and I guess I was interpreting that as

12:58

a character choice rather than the rather than

13:00

an inadvertent Quality of the

13:02

actress, but I'll see how she keeps going.

13:05

It's also interesting and she's seemed like Getting

13:09

back to what we discussed last week about Whether

13:12

the Jedi are good guys or bad guys at

13:14

this point or where that you know, they're brackish, I

13:16

guess Yeah But

13:19

she's suggesting, you know keeping a secret

13:21

from like don't tell the

13:23

boss that you know we're gonna have

13:25

this other secret alliance going on and

13:28

so that's a That's

13:32

this the thing that so I kind of I'm

13:35

a little bit disappointed in that

13:37

kind of I'm

13:39

a little bit disappointed in in may having

13:42

kind of second thoughts. Mm-hmm With

13:46

this as the as it goes like as Her

13:49

thing kind of both of them have

13:51

second Well, yeah,

13:53

but that's so like the the the

13:56

Jedi being the kind of you know outdated

14:00

institution that's abusing its power, I thought was a

14:02

strong thread that I was picking up on. And

14:06

I thought that May

14:08

was going to be the one that so you mentioned it with

14:11

with Vernestra

14:13

Roa and sound

14:16

of a lightsaber. Roa Vernestra

14:18

Roa Roa But

14:22

it triggered

14:26

that in me. So this is I'm gonna tie that to

14:29

this because it's like shortly after

14:31

that we get this that other scene of you

14:33

know, like eventually after a little bit of trekking

14:36

through jungle suddenly May is just like you know what I'm

14:38

just gonna go talk to the Wookie and turn myself in

14:41

and and

14:43

and I I feel like that was I was

14:46

into that thread of like Oh, we're gonna find out

14:48

that the Jedi did something really bad, which is why

14:50

she was upset about it she's gonna open

14:53

our eyes to all this and and

14:56

instead she was like no, I'm gonna go just tell him that

14:59

I'm gonna turn myself in and tell him and You

15:03

know, I'm not I'm not like she just just suddenly

15:05

it's just like, you know what? I'm tired I don't

15:07

want revenge anymore. And it's a weird kind of

15:09

like I thought that was the thought

15:12

that was part of the driving narrative of this Season

15:15

at least of this if not this program. Yeah,

15:18

it's interesting that they didn't use specifically

15:20

her encountering her sister again as the

15:22

thing that would she

15:24

did to kind of she was like, you know, I didn't know

15:27

may being alive or OSHA

15:29

being alive changes everything she said whatever but I

15:33

Don't know I feel like it's not I Mean

15:36

she's not that it was sudden but I feel like it kind of

15:38

like let the air a little bit out of the drive Of the

15:40

show. Yeah Well,

15:44

you must have bounced back though when you suck

15:46

yeti Mundi show up on screen I You

15:51

looked like you know, I don't know first I

15:53

had to be like I don't know is that

15:55

key on him under here Is that just like

15:57

another dude? Yeah internet sources have confirmed it is

15:59

key Yeah, the other guy is not plo kun.

16:01

The other one is not plo kun, which is

16:03

weird because I thought plo kun was so unusual

16:06

Because he has to wear that thing that mask.

16:08

Yeah, so the fact that there's several

16:10

of those plo kunians seems

16:13

weird to me whereas So

16:16

yeah, Keanu Monday apparently a long-lived species

16:20

Yeah, we know them. We know the men are

16:22

in short supply in there in there So

16:25

maybe they use it. It's a lady

16:28

plo kun. That's keldor Kaldor's

16:31

Yeah If

16:35

the a pan lady Plo Kaldor is the race.

16:37

Sorry keldor is the oh, I think we made

16:39

that joke We talked about plo kun. Maybe I

16:42

thought I saw a big eyelashes on That

16:44

character when I looked at when I looked at her I

16:46

was like that if the upon If

16:50

the a pawn But

16:55

the Kaldor was first previewed briefly in the

16:57

official trailers series Pawn

16:59

was later identified by the official Star Wars again

17:01

on Twitter after fan inquired on the Kaldor's name

17:05

If the a pawn yeah, I

17:07

thought it was a little bit. I mean it makes sense

17:11

What does um Keanu Monday that cute? Yeah, Keanu Monday

17:13

would be sorry I just blew into the microphone because

17:15

there was a little fly going by Makes

17:20

sense that Keanu Monday would be around you know that we

17:23

some people would be around Then

17:29

you know lifespans and what have you but I

17:31

don't know something about him He just looks he

17:33

looked and sounded like a bootleg. He already went

17:36

and not just like a young version of the

17:39

same character, but he looked like a bootleg

17:41

kind of like you look like

17:43

the Disney Parks version of Kiai

17:46

Monday. It's kind of ironic that In

17:49

the prequels we were critical of the

17:52

fact that every time every time in

17:54

the prequels they brought in a original

17:56

trilogy alien and it looked wrong and

17:58

off and weird and Maybe

18:00

it's just like once that creature shop closes

18:02

down the other ones have a difficult time

18:05

Recreating that look that specific look

18:07

or something, you know, yeah,

18:10

I don't know what it is It's a weird cuz there's

18:12

good, you know, there's been good roadie in us. There's been

18:15

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18:18

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18:20

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18:22

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18:24

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20:05

so I don't know how I feel that Keanu

20:08

Mundy being in there. I mean, I

20:10

kind of like, like, oh,

20:12

he's had the same job for 136 years.

20:15

You know, I guess that's why they

20:17

let them just like work from home, work remotely,

20:20

call into the meetings. It's

20:22

like, he's been, he's got tenure. He's been here for 130

20:24

years. Fire him, we cannot. No,

20:31

it's too much in these big brains. So

20:34

this is a scene where Saul is trying to

20:36

convince Oshu to come with them,

20:38

I guess, or something on there on the trip

20:41

to with May. And he kind of

20:45

frames it as like the loyalty we feel

20:47

towards family. I thought that was a very

20:49

odd thing for a Jedi to be like,

20:53

well, maybe he was, he was

20:55

trying to use what he's like, Oh,

20:57

you know, it's attachment. You like attachment,

20:59

right? People, people like attachments to

21:02

other things and people, right? He's

21:04

guilt tripping. That's a thing. I

21:07

watched a movie about it. All the

21:09

people racing around in their star in their

21:11

pod racers and there's the bald guy. So

21:15

is this every time they every time something happens

21:17

in the in that that contest

21:19

seemingly contradicts what we know about Star Wars?

21:21

I'm assuming like, well, so this like, is

21:24

the last episode going to be okay from

21:26

now on? Well, Jedi are forbidden to have

21:28

attachments, you know, and like, right? Or, you

21:30

know, okay, from now on, we're only going

21:33

to train very small children because once we

21:35

train old people, it doesn't, you

21:37

know, like something that, right?

21:40

It's all going to be like, like, oh,

21:42

and that's why they did that. And that's

21:44

how we got that. Yes. I was a

21:46

fan of Basil. Is

21:48

it? Yeah, kind of a weird Star

21:52

Wars. Remind me of that creature in

21:54

the second Ewok movie.

21:56

Got it ran really fast. Do you remember

21:58

him? The second Ewok. There's

22:02

a second he-walk in the grassy knoll. It

22:05

does seem odd that they have to hire

22:07

a tracker to do

22:09

this, as opposed to using

22:11

the force to find him. It's

22:16

true. Being Jedi, finding a

22:18

Jedi, it seems like they could use the force, but...

22:20

Yeah. They'll just shut their eyes, but

22:23

maybe they haven't figured that trick out yet. Well, I'm

22:25

glad they backed up. Maybe this is where they learned

22:27

that. It's true. And

22:30

that's how they... Yeah,

22:34

of course, Neil Scanlon made the... Neil

22:41

Scanlon and his team designed the Basil

22:44

set-up makeup costume.

22:49

He's performed by Hassan Taj,

22:52

who is the

22:56

Rise of Skywalker R2-D2. And

23:04

he was

23:07

the droid in Solo that looks kind of like

23:10

an air conditioner with gank legs coming out the

23:12

bottom. There's one that's like a flat

23:14

kind of like... That

23:17

was him too. He's like a fairly

23:19

young guy, it looks like. We'll

23:22

follow his career with great interest. He's

23:25

a new... a little person who's

23:28

been doing some good character... characters

23:31

and droids and stuff like that. Hassan

23:34

Taj, welcome to the family. Like

23:37

10 years ago. Has

23:41

Warwick Davis been in any of them? Bottom.

23:43

There's one that's like a flat kind of like... He's

23:49

a fairly young guy, it looks like. We'll

23:52

follow his career with great interest. He's

23:55

a new... a little

23:57

person who's been doing some good

23:59

character... character is in

24:02

droids and stuff like that. So,

24:04

Hassan Ta' is welcome to the family. Like

24:07

10 years ago. Has

24:11

Warwick Davis been in any of the TV

24:14

series? I thought I

24:16

could recall. I'm

24:18

surprised because that seems like that would be right up his... Right.

24:23

Yeah. Oh, he was

24:26

working on Willow, right? They can't... They

24:28

can't do Willow series. Yeah,

24:30

well, they did it and then I think his

24:32

wife just passed away too. Oh, okay. But

24:35

I mean, Mandalorian or any of these,

24:37

you know, show stuff. Basil's

24:40

design features elements of beavers and otters in

24:42

order to match the description of the species,

24:45

which originated in the 1979 novel

24:47

Han Solo's Revenge by Brian Daly.

24:50

Because he is a... What did

24:52

I just say he was? He is a

24:55

Tynan. Tynan. Tynan.

24:58

Tynan. Tynan Ivory

25:00

Wayans. Yes,

25:03

he was a... So

25:05

this is a deep cut reference. Nice. That I

25:07

didn't even get until I just read it right

25:09

now because it's been forever since I read those

25:11

books. Maybe I'll just go read Han

25:14

Solo's. Save that for swimming. We

25:17

get another deep voice roar, roar,

25:19

roar, alien when they're asking for

25:21

directions. So

25:24

yeah. We

25:27

get to see that strange scene with the moths. Yeah.

25:33

I wasn't sure what that was about. What

25:35

was the... Well,

25:38

there were like giant roly polies

25:40

on these trees. And I'm like an idiot, of

25:42

course. Oh, shit, touch is one. Yeah.

25:46

Then it crawls around, turns into a moth. Turns

25:49

into a big... Yeah.

25:53

I think the

25:56

main thing that we're supposed to get from that

25:58

is like she's in touch with the force again.

26:00

because she felt it's, she

26:02

was able to kind of, she says like, I felt, I

26:04

was able to commune with it basically. And I felt it

26:06

die or something like that. And when she,

26:10

a little bit later, this happened, she,

26:14

she touched it and then felt the force or

26:16

she felt the force. And then said that I

26:18

now I'll go touch this animal because no, no,

26:20

later, she touched it and then it flew around

26:22

and she kind of like felt it, right.

26:25

Felt its presence there. Once it kind of became

26:28

agitated and then died and she was kind of

26:30

connected with it and she was like, Oh yeah,

26:32

I felt that. And then has that whole conversation

26:34

with. Okay. So that was just

26:36

a way of showing that she's back in touch with the force.

26:39

Yeah. She's, she's, she's reactivated

26:41

her force account. I

26:44

thought it was funny that someone had, they had

26:46

to dub in someone going, it went straight for

26:49

the saber. Like, yeah, like, because, oh no, must

26:51

be attracted to life. Yeah, exactly. It's a giant

26:53

bug zapper, but it's almost like they, they didn't

26:55

want to have the jet. I just kill the

26:57

creature. So they had to like explain that, Oh

26:59

no, no, it flew right into the safer. Like,

27:01

you know, it

27:03

wanted, it was very depressed. Um,

27:06

so there's this whole thing about killing

27:08

the wookie without a weapon. And he's

27:10

like, how you heard that that insect

27:13

review bombs are there

27:18

with this whole thing about killing the wookie without a

27:20

trap. And Jason Mendoza is like, how are you going

27:22

to do it? Without a weapon. Yeah. Without a weapon.

27:24

And it seems like there are other, I

27:27

guess it depends on your definition of what

27:29

a weapon is. Well, again, he's

27:31

like a, you know, he's like a, like a evil

27:33

Yoda at this point. Oh yeah. So he's being, he's

27:36

being like, Oh, you know, like, well, you're going to

27:38

do it without a weapon. How are you going to

27:40

do that? Yeah. Like, you know, but

27:42

instead of being, you know, Yoda, he's

27:45

Jason Mendoza. No, but I'm more

27:47

thinking of why she thinks it's so hard to come up

27:49

with a way to do it. Like, it

27:51

seems like, and that's what he was wondering too. Yeah.

27:53

But like you could, like,

27:55

could you drop rocks on somebody? Could you

27:57

like set their house on fire? Like it

27:59

seems like a big rock plenty of ways

28:01

you could do you can get

28:03

out using a weapon per se You know if

28:05

she already poisoned right a guy drink poison so

28:08

yeah You know put some radiation

28:10

not a weapon radio have materials under his

28:13

house and just let him slowly You know

28:15

die from radiation poisoning or something right anyway,

28:18

but she decides not to do it She

28:20

ties up Jason men. She traps to Jason

28:22

Mendoza Right and they're

28:25

like a Looney Tunes style snare Yes,

28:28

but then she finds the all the Wookiees it did

28:32

Yeah, well how was that is just he

28:34

had like a was that a lightsaber slash

28:37

Looks like see the lightsaber or a blaster.

28:39

I you I can't tell I'm

28:42

assuming burning slash. I'm assuming that that

28:44

the Black-suited guy

28:47

with the lightsaber probably does right Darth

28:51

Mendoza Darth

28:54

Bortles I Thought

28:57

it was when I saw him sitting there. I almost

28:59

thought that Wookiee looked like Looked

29:01

like itchy in his pleasure chair.

29:03

Yeah He's

29:06

not dead he was just watching Space

29:10

porn and dropped his hot pocket on

29:12

his on his chest

29:14

there in a branch. Yeah Let's

29:16

see what was a roll up The

29:20

Main counters can I kiss hudders into one

29:22

to Wookiee Jedi slumped in front of a

29:24

consula she approaches She finds him dead deed

29:28

with a lightsaber gash across his chest

29:30

according to Wikipedia So

29:32

here's a problem that the modern

29:34

Star Wars has boxed itself into

29:37

Okay, um she's like oh, no, I can't I

29:40

can't go out now because they'll assume I killed

29:42

this Wookiee Right, can't you

29:44

just go out there explain the situation and say look

29:46

read my mind Go ahead and probe my mind and

29:48

you'll see that that's what happened because now like every

29:51

Jedi is basically has a lie detector All the time.

29:53

They can just tell us someone's lying by putting their

29:55

hand on their head. So hmm

29:57

anyway Yeah It's

30:01

a little bit... Again, I... It's

30:04

way too powerful. Yeah,

30:07

we need to walk back the four screens a bit, but it might be too late to do that. Maybe

30:09

at the end of this series, oh no, because we

30:11

saw Kylo Ren do it, so... It's

30:15

definitely Spann's... maybe he revived it

30:17

at this forbidden practice. But

30:19

yeah, so... I thought this episode was

30:21

okay. Um,

30:24

yeah, I liked it. It flowed

30:26

better than the Flashback. The

30:29

Flashback one. Flashback.

30:33

It flowed better than that, and

30:35

it got some stuff, you know. It

30:37

moved well, I thought. It's

30:40

good to dance, too. I'm

30:42

a little bit disappointed in the way that it... You

30:48

know, like a lot of these shows,

30:50

like Lost or Vision

30:53

and Scarlet Witch, whatever that was, WandaVision, it's

30:56

just like, oh, I love when they set up

30:58

the puzzle, and then as they reveal

31:00

things, I'm like, no. Well,

31:04

it's a little bit... I'm not

31:06

as into it anymore. Well, I think

31:08

a lot of these, they would be

31:10

much better if they had been conceived

31:12

as movies rather than television series, because you

31:14

kind of have to stretch stuff out, you know, so

31:16

by the time... I feel like, weren't we saying the

31:18

opposite about a lot of things, too? Like, oh, this

31:20

should have been a series instead of a show. I guess maybe

31:23

the wrong things are being produced in the wrong formats. I mean,

31:26

even The Mandalorian, I think there's not a

31:28

single Star Wars series that could not have

31:30

been improved by just making a

31:32

single two and a half hour film. No way.

31:34

The Mandalorian should be just a show that's, you

31:36

know, it should be like The Incredible Hulk. Like,

31:38

that's what I thought we were setting up for

31:40

with this season four, when he

31:42

was just like, oh, look, I've got this hut and I've got

31:44

my radio for the bounty hunter thing, and

31:46

we're just going to give him a new mission

31:49

every week, and he's going to go do it.

31:51

That's what I was looking forward to, but... Well,

31:54

no, I agree that that's a good plan, but they're

31:56

not...clearly they're not making that kind of show, so it's

31:58

not like... They're not making

32:00

TV shows. They're making movies cut up into small chunks.

32:02

It doesn't have the pacing and rhythm of a TV

32:05

show where Right, you

32:07

know anyway blah blah blah No I

32:09

came up with what I thought was a guy I'm gonna Say

32:12

now what I think is gonna happen in the last episode

32:14

how it's gonna end Okay, it's

32:16

gonna end with the witches

32:18

all mad that the Jedi about the

32:20

witches the Jedi witches have to come back

32:23

They're gonna be so they're mad

32:26

the Jedi and everything so they use the

32:28

force to once again create a new child

32:30

and They curse this child

32:32

with the it has to destroy the Jedi

32:34

at all costs That is its single purpose

32:36

in life is to destroy the Jedi and

32:39

then they because they want to

32:41

cover their tracks They feed it a bunch of

32:43

pseudo history about the Sith and how they once

32:45

ruled the galaxy and the Jedi's You know and

32:47

then and then that of course turns out to

32:49

be Palpatine. Oh, I thought you're gonna

32:52

say Yoda no, no,

32:54

no, no Yoda's presumably us around

32:56

its points. Yeah, but anyway, yeah, it's

32:58

gonna be they're in a foreign Palpatine

33:00

They're gonna they're gonna You

33:03

know create him. He's the one created

33:05

by the force and Anakin and you

33:07

know, basically so anyway Let's

33:10

wait. Let's stay tuned for four weeks from now and

33:12

everyone's like I can't believe he called that Mm-hmm.

33:16

It's like that guy. I really hope I was

33:18

talking to somebody about and they were like They

33:20

were like why did like they were basically saying

33:22

they they don't feel like They're

33:26

not interested in it because it doesn't Tie

33:29

into any of the Star Wars that we know and I was

33:31

like I'm just the opposite Like I wanted to like stay as

33:33

far away from the Star Wars that we know as possible But

33:36

they're like, well then why would it be Star Wars? Like

33:38

why doesn't it what could be anything? I'm like, yes, exactly

33:44

But I don't know it's

33:46

a good I liked the I Liked

33:52

the in this show

33:54

so far. I like the What's

33:57

the word I'm looking for kind of reserved use of

33:59

light sabers They're

34:01

not like wild all over the place lightsabering. You

34:03

have not had any duels yet. What?

34:07

I mean this ends with like, you

34:09

know, Sith lightsaber shows

34:12

up in a million, quote unquote, you

34:16

know a million Jedi lightsabers go up and it's

34:18

like, obviously we're gonna have something but like, it's

34:20

been fairly. No, I think something's gonna be like

34:23

a big explosion and he's gonna disappear or something.

34:25

They don't have the budget or time to choreograph

34:27

complicated lightsaber battles. Anyone else say? Well, they did

34:29

that cool, you

34:31

know, the Karian Ma did that cool

34:34

like, you know, wuxia thing at the beginning.

34:36

So. It's just two people

34:38

though. Yeah. Like, this

34:40

one has like 10 Jedi and one bad

34:42

guy. So anyway, we'll see.

34:46

But you're right. There have not been much,

34:48

considering that it's Jedi focused, there hasn't been

34:50

that much lightsaber action. Yeah,

34:53

and like, reserved use

34:55

of the force in general. I think, you know, maybe

34:57

they, they

34:59

realize that force creep is bad

35:02

for storytelling too, because like, once you, you know,

35:04

you use it once and then it's like an,

35:07

you know, that door is, you can't go back

35:09

through that door. Yeah. And

35:11

then like, if they become too powerful, then it's

35:13

just like, well, that

35:15

hampers your storytelling because like, well, you

35:18

know, it's like when we're sitting there watching Rebels and

35:20

we're like, why don't they just push those like guys

35:22

aside? You know, why don't they just use the force

35:24

to do that thing that they did three episodes ago?

35:27

It's funny seeing these shows wrestle with the

35:29

same problems that comic books,

35:31

because it's a similar, similar, you

35:34

know, ecosystem of how do you, how

35:36

do you make it? You know, you

35:39

keep building, how do you keep it simple

35:41

enough where new people can come on or without

35:43

feeling like they have to watch everything. And also

35:46

what do you do when like, all right,

35:48

we have too many mutants. You know what?

35:50

We're off and now all mutants are powerless

35:52

and you know, they need something like that

35:55

to like reset the force to, to

35:58

pre. to 1977 levels. Right.

36:04

Alright, well that will wrap up

36:06

this episode, day. I

36:10

feel like I'm forgetting a major thing that happened. What's

36:12

the matter? Everyone's going to be like, I can't believe

36:14

they didn't talk about... Well, it must

36:16

not have been very exciting then. Well,

36:18

there we go. We'll go read back through

36:20

this. I'm glad to... Hey, glad

36:23

Kalanaka's dead. That

36:25

sounds cold maybe. That

36:28

sounds... I know some people who

36:30

liked him. I don't know. Was

36:34

he in some of the

36:36

books or something? I don't know. Oh, you know what

36:38

I like? He was. Was.

36:43

Yeah, glad he's dead. I

36:45

like that... What's the name? Yord? Yord?

36:49

I like... Again, love him. I think

36:51

he's great. I think he's a total

36:54

like pompous ass. Need

36:57

one of those. Jedi

37:00

Niedermeyer. Jedi... Jedi

37:02

Niedermeyer? Jedi Niedermeyer? Jedi

37:05

Niedermeyer? But I like

37:07

that thing where he's like, oh, everybody... Most

37:10

Padawans want to learn Shura work, but

37:13

I wanted to study something more nuanced. Oh, right. Yeah.

37:16

Him kind of like being

37:19

elitist about learning foreign

37:21

languages, but in the Star Wars galaxy.

37:23

I like that. That was a good... That

37:26

was nice detail. Yeah. Oh,

37:30

I like Hyperdrive rings. Yeah,

37:32

that was cool. Because

37:34

again, Hyperdrive creep. We have anything like... Any little

37:36

ship can just blast into hyperspace whenever it wants

37:39

to, but I like going back to like, no,

37:41

we need to use the thing here to help

37:43

us get through that. Yeah,

37:48

and also, because we still see the Jedi using

37:50

those in prequel times. Just

37:53

the R2-D2 go to light speed before

37:55

this series has done. Right, into those

37:57

rockets. All

38:00

right Yeah,

38:02

I think that's pretty much it. I thought

38:05

looking through the looking through the description I

38:07

we should know this but is

38:09

this one season or is this open-ended? Do you know

38:11

do you have you heard is it a club? Are

38:13

we expecting a cliffhanger ending or is this gonna be

38:15

a I? Don't know. I

38:18

hope it's a one-and-done. I wish every show was a every

38:20

season was a one and done now. Just so it's like

38:25

Anyway, all right, but yeah, I Disappointed

38:28

in the Disappointed

38:30

in main second thoughts, but I'm interested to see

38:32

where yeah Yeah,

38:36

as you said I like calling him Darth portals

38:38

now So well, we'll

38:40

see where he goes what happens with that next

38:43

episode. It's I'm

38:45

excited to see what the next one holds even though

38:47

I'm less excited about this whole thing as a whole

38:49

I'm more excited than I was a week ago. Hmm.

38:51

That makes sense. Yeah Also,

38:54

I want to I'm I want to remind back up from

38:56

where I was last week But not quite as high as

38:58

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