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heat bakes large parts of the
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Donald Trump's immunity claims to emergency abortions,
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we'll tell you what rulings to be
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on the lookout for. And
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it may be cheap online, but what's
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in it? He said they found bacteria
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in some of them. You know, some
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of them contained effectively nothing. As demand
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surges for weight loss drugs, there's a
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new warning out against counterfeits. From
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ABC News, this is Start Here.
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I'm Anne Flaherty. Hey,
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Brad's out today, but I've got you covered in the meantime. Yesterday,
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the tiny town of Caribou, Maine, near the U.S.-Canadian
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border, made national news when it issued its first
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ever excessive heat warning with
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a heat index of 103 degrees. We're
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lucky to live in the beautiful state of Maine where we
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have lots of beautiful lakes and beaches and ponds. And
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it wasn't alone. Heat alerts are now in
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effect for more than a dozen states covering parts
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of the country that don't typically do anything. But
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it's not a big deal with dangerous heat. Cities
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like Boston and Manchester, New Hampshire, hitting record highs
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of... Can
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I trust these products that are online
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or we just don't know? It is
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a health issue. There have been reports
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of patient harm. The FDA is tracking
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this and they've issued warnings. The World
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Health Organization came out with a big
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warning. There are real concerns. In fact,
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some products that are posing as ozempic,
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let's say, or some of these
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other products have been found to
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have nothing in them. Maybe there's
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a saline solution or very worryingly
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they've been found to have things
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like insulin in them. And that
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can be dangerous. Now,
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the people who are selling these products,
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like I said, it is a wide
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range of actors. Some of them are
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criminals. They're selling black market products. They're
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completely made up. Some of
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the issues here are a little
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more complicated. They're about maybe
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legitimate products that can't be
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verified if they're high quality
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or maybe they're compounded products,
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which is a legal way
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to make products that are in shortage.
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But there have been these growing concerns
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about within that legal industry some bad
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actors potentially pushing the envelope and making
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products that are not high quality as
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well. Yeah, I was going to say,
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I mean, technically you can use a
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compounding pharmacy amid an ongoing drug
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shortage, which is what we have here. But
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the FDA is raising concerns about this,
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that it's not necessarily all
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good actors in this space. Is
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that what's going on? Yeah, that's
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exactly right. So the compounding pharmacy
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system started as a way to
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meet a need. So if you
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can imagine pharmaceutical companies make mass
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produced products for the average person,
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right. But sometimes there are very
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specific niche scenarios where maybe
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it's a child that needs a very specific type
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of cancer medication, but they're very, you know, they
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have a different weight. A compounding pharmacy could come
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in and step in and
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make that product legally. In the
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case of drug shortages, compounding pharmacies
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are legally allowed to step in
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and make these products legally. The
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problem is that the The
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demand for these products has been so
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extraordinary and has blown so many people
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away that so many
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compounding pharmacies have rushed in and not
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all of them are making high quality
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products. In fact, in this recent open
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letter, Eli Lilly said
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that they've been testing the
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quality of compounded products
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and they said they found bacteria in some of
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them, some of them contained
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effectively nothing active in them. So they found
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some serious issues in the quality of products
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that are being made in a compounded way
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and the FDA has also raised some of
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those concerns. So, Sony, you're not supposed
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to get anything online, but
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at the same time, we've had
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telehealth explode since COVID. So, it
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seems reasonable to look at some of
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these telehealth sites and say, well, maybe
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that can be my doctor who I
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talk to. Are those legitimate? With telehealth,
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a doctor is involved in the process,
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right? Oh, so they can actually write
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the prescription. Yes, there's a real prescription.
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It's a Zoom consultation and they're writing
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you like a real prescription. And
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then you take that to a
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real pharmacist versus like all of
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these websites out there advertising, you
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know, semaglutide at really low prices
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and you don't have to have a doctor
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involved in that process. You just put your
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credit card information in. That's where you should
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really be, you know, concerned and thinking twice.
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So, how do you protect yourself here? It just sounds like
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the bottom line is you have to talk to your doctor.
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Yeah, I think ultimately that's it. It may be frustrating for
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people because we are in a shortage, but
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try to get these drugs through your doctor, through
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a legitimate pharmacist. I suggest
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you never inject yourself with something you bought
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off social media. Doctors we talk to
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are hopeful that this is a problem that will ease
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in the future as that production ramps up. And
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whenever we see shortages, we also see crime.
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And so, the faster they can do that,
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the faster we can protect patients. But certainly for
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the time being, it can continue to be a
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scramble for patients. Sony
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Salzman, thanks so much. Thank you, Anne. Okay,
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one more quick break. When we come back, they
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say you can always pick out the Americans traveling
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abroad by the shoes we wear, or
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maybe it's the ammunition in our luggage. One
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last thing is next. In
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the 1980s, everyone wanted to be
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in the Brat Pack, except them.
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Now, director Andrew McCarthy
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reunites with fellow Brats. Demi Moore.
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Why did we take it as an
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offense? As opposed to like Brat? Because
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we were young. We were afraid we
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were Brats. Emilio Estevez,
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Ali Sheedy, Rob Lowe. I'm
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not gonna say we were Beatles or anything like that. Well, we
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didn't tell Shea Stadium. 1985, I think we could've. The
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original documentary, Prats, now streaming
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only on Hulu. And
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one last thing. In
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the news recently, there have been several
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stories about Americans getting into trouble overseas.
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There was the American staff sergeant who
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followed his girlfriend to Russia, where he
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was charged with theft and assault. The
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visit apparently turned sour. The woman claiming
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she and Black had a domestic dispute.
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And another American arrested after a night
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of binge drinking, after which he climbed
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into a children's library in Moscow and
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stripped off his clothes before being discovered
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by police. You run a tremendous risk
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by traveling to Russia of being detained,
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being imprisoned, being convicted.
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And in both of these cases, the U.S.
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government said, hey, unless these charges are bogus
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and you're being wrongfully detained, there's not much
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we can do. When you travel
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to another country, you have to follow the laws
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there. Enter Ryan Watson.
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But I just hope that they know that, at the
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end of the day, this was an accident. A father to
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two young kids from Oklahoma who was
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celebrating his 40th birthday in Turks and
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Caicos when he was arrested for carrying
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four rounds of ammunition in his luggage.
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I looked at Ryan and I asked,
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I said, what are those? He
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was like, I think those are
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my hunting, like deer hunting bullets. And
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that's the bag he uses for weekend
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trips. Turns out that Turks and Caicos,
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a string of islands south of the
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Bahamas known for its luxury resorts and
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barrier reefs, also doesn't have a constitutional
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right to carry firearms. In fact,
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its laws say that no one, not
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even tourists, can possess an unlicensed firearm
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or any ammunition. It's not
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just a slap on the wrist either, if
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you break the law. At the time of
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Watson's arrest, Turks and Caicos imposed a
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12-year minimum mandatory jail sentence. Officer
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said, no, you don't understand. Like, you guys
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are both going to prison for 12 years.
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And that's when my wife, she
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broke down, and then when I heard her break down, I lost
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it as well. And it wasn't just Watson who
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found himself in jail on his vacation. Four
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other American tourists were arrested after
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going through airport screening with loose
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ammunition in their bags. One
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31-year-old dad, for example, said he had
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been shooting at a gun range with
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friends before leaving on his vacation and
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said he completely forgot he was carrying
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ammunition. Another American, a mom from
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Florida celebrating Mother's Day with her daughter, said
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she wasn't even sure how ammunition ended up
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in her bag. When citizens of other countries
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come to the United States, we expect them to abide
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by United States law and we hold them accountable if
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they don't. And that is true for
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people traveling overseas. The State Department said
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there wasn't much they could do other than
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issue these travel warnings on their website. It's
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just great to work together and
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to be a part of helping reunite
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this family. U.S. lawmakers even got
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involved traveling to the islands to lobby
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for changes to the law. Well,
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yesterday, Watson got what could be
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good news ahead of his sentencing
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hearing today. The
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Turks and Caicos government just changed
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their laws, allowing courts in the
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country to have more discretion in
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sentencing, essentially dropping the 12-year minimum
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jail time. We'll see what
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happens later today and if the court takes the
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new law. into account given it
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wasn't enacted at the time of his
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arrest. Of course, Watson
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could still face a hefty fine
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making that a seriously expensive vacation.
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One thing I found interesting is that
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Watson is out on bond but has
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been forced to stay in the country
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until his case is resolved along with
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one other American also still facing charges.
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The other three Americans have been released.
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All a good reminder to check the laws of
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any place you travel or at least
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get the bullet points. I'm
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pretty sure that climbing into a library drunk at
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night and taking your clothes off is illegal anywhere
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you go. Start Here
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is produced by Kelly Therese, Jen
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Newman, Brenda Salinas Baker, Vika Aronson,
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Cameron Chortavian, Anthony Ali, Maro Mwaki,
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and Amira Williams. Ariel Chester is
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our social media producer. Josh Cohan
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is director of podcast programming. Brad
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Milkey is our managing editor. Laura
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Mayer is our executive producer. Thanks
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to Lakia Brown, John Newman, Tara
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Gimbel, and Liz Alessi. Special
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thanks this week to Chris Berry, Jessica
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Hopper, and Jonah Haskell. I'm Ann
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Flaherty, and for Brad Milkey, have a great
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weekend.
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