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Baby you change your mind,

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life too many times Over

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and over again, over and

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over again Baby

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you change your mind, life

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too many times Over and

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over again, over and over

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again Hello

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and welcome to Still Buffering, a cross-generational guide

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to the culture that made us. I am

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Riley Smirnoff. I'm Sydney McRoy. And I'm Taylor

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Smirnoff. I know we usually

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don't get political. Oh

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boy. You both looked so nervous

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when I said that. I

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feel like this is a pretty,

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this is politically attached, politically adjacent.

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Adjacent, thank you. Lost the word. But

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no, I feel like this is a pretty universal thing

1:01

we can tap into. Maybe we can come together on

1:03

this one. Did you,

1:05

have you guys heard about the governor

1:07

who killed her puppy? Oh yeah. Yeah.

1:12

And now it's like her whole platform. Wait,

1:14

she made a platform out of killing a puppy.

1:17

Well, she's just doubling down real hard.

1:20

Like I do what has to get done.

1:22

And sometimes that includes killing a puppy.

1:25

That's it. Yeah. Oh

1:27

no. That's terrible. Yeah. Making

1:30

hard decisions. She knows how to make hard decisions

1:33

like she did with cricket. That

1:35

was the name of the puppy. Why did she tell us

1:37

the name of the puppy by the way? It makes it worse. But

1:39

she killed this puppy because this puppy was

1:41

just like a puppy, right? It

1:44

wasn't behaving well. And I don't

1:46

know. Listen, I have cats,

1:48

so I'm not going to pretend to have dog

1:50

knowledge or like dog training knowledge. I

1:53

don't know what normal, but I

1:55

guess it was a bird dog As

1:57

in you take it when you hunt. Some

2:00

sort of bird. And.

2:03

For. A lot of people have been com

2:05

inane who have expertise in this area and

2:08

have said that she. Approached training the bird

2:10

dog wrong and that this is normal

2:12

behavior for a bird dog of this.

2:14

Age and that she is this a

2:16

poor trainer. I

2:19

have no idea. I'll think it's a

2:21

very good platform to say that when

2:23

when they to forget difficult I was

2:25

shoot them with a gun. Alone

2:29

I didn't know of birds. I was

2:31

saying sunlight dog person neither is. Soon

2:33

as said bird dogs I was picturing

2:35

like. A golden retriever

2:38

with like a beak. And.

2:41

The wings on the back. I

2:44

think as what I thought you as a good year pastry.

2:46

Like Snoopy with Woodstock sitting on his

2:48

nose. Well that to episode the odds

2:50

is doesn't burn. Yeah. I'm

2:53

and I thought their shoes called

2:55

bird dogs. There's. Other underwear

2:58

unwilling sorts are those shorts that

3:00

you don't wear underwear was or

3:02

the shorts. Those are the research

3:04

think yeah as an assurance that

3:06

you they have like built and

3:08

underwear. See don't have to wear

3:10

underwear you get funded disease. I

3:13

would say they discuss it's possible

3:15

just and head. Of hair. I

3:20

I. I hate

3:22

this lady and I hope have bad things

3:24

happen to her. I I

3:27

see to think it's wild. That.

3:29

She wrote a book. The. Sushi doubling

3:31

down, So hard she wrote a book. Why I

3:34

killed my puppy. Or that know

3:36

that how he found out about and

3:38

nobody asked her hey by the way

3:40

to see associates them she is Problem

3:43

was he was she was probably going

3:45

to be chosen as Donald Trump's running

3:47

mate. And then she released

3:49

a book. Called. No going

3:52

back. Which that

3:54

is the truth that yeah, we

3:56

were unsuited to have a policies

3:58

to words have never been. Titled

4:00

on a books but she wrote a book and

4:02

in the book she was like you know anecdote

4:04

I want to share with people. Must

4:07

share about the time I killed a puppy. And.

4:11

Like nobody made her do that. Seat.

4:16

She wanted to be vice president and so she wrote

4:18

a paragraph and a book and then set out to

4:20

the world that about. Killing a puppy. On.

4:23

Her leg. I don't mean

4:25

I I I understand in certain

4:27

circumstances like dogs a violent their

4:29

put down which are not necessarily

4:31

agree with that. but lake you

4:33

can't just kill an animal. Know.

4:37

Is it leet? Well, I don't know. Is that

4:39

legal and seat what South Dakota is our she's

4:41

from and that legal in South Dakota. I'm an

4:43

animal control. Puts down animals if they

4:45

are considered legs violent like if they've.

4:48

Attacked small children but this dog

4:50

was just the so just like.

4:53

Was. Obnoxious and like peed in places

4:55

re it like it was just as I

4:57

it was a policy. In. This

5:00

story changes I think. see I think

5:02

it like attack without some sort of

5:04

livestock it but I don't know what

5:06

that means. And. Then the

5:08

way C word the it sounds like it snapped

5:10

data or like turned as if it would bite

5:12

her. but it's not clear. That it actually did

5:14

by any one. I

5:18

don't know. All I know is that like she

5:20

went on to talk about. How. You

5:23

know how Joe Biden had that. Dog commander

5:25

in the White House who bit some

5:27

secret service agents. And Suzanne

5:29

Commander had to go live at the other Biden

5:31

house. like there's not a euphemism like Commander can

5:34

live at the White House anymore cause the I

5:36

said some our me like a farm upstate. I

5:38

mean like I mean like the the dog live

5:40

somewhere else now. Because he but some

5:42

secret service agents. Some. She

5:45

was like, see, that's ridiculous I'd get

5:47

read as commander. That would be one

5:50

of my first moves. And like I'd

5:52

say, Commander.

5:54

Say hello to Cricket. Season.

5:57

Which I think mean she wants to kill

5:59

other. He I one. Now I

6:01

have a thirst for blood. that's why we

6:03

put dogs dad because. The.

6:06

They. Get a taste for it. What about

6:08

without people? I. Don't know it's it's

6:10

the while I guess if you go on to read.

6:12

I've heard other people who I am will never read

6:14

this book of course but I've heard of the people

6:17

talking about like if he gone to redress the stories

6:19

he like after she kills the dog she goes and

6:21

kill the billy. Goat to just just because

6:23

it feels good to the made her feel

6:25

alive for the first time and assistance. This

6:28

is a psychopath. This is somebody that is

6:30

on the well. As

6:32

a daily said, it's overthrowing the Villiger. With the

6:34

with. Successful

6:37

businesses cruz. Is

6:40

easy on Snl that marcel her and

6:42

then does on weekend of the as

6:44

cricket number Cinnabon because. Of

6:47

the as it's argue against Christie

6:49

was and secretly asking for help.

6:53

I just felt like. A.

6:55

Few. There's so many things I ran

6:57

for office once and there's so many

7:00

things were like you're trying to always.

7:02

Be. Honest and true to yourself and

7:04

talk about things in a real way

7:07

from. But like you know, there are

7:09

certain things that as soon as he say them like

7:11

it's gonna make up a bunch people mad and that's

7:13

going to be the whole day. And like you know,

7:15

so you're You're constantly trying to get people to hear.

7:17

You without yelling at you and so I understand.

7:20

How many difficult topics there

7:22

are? This is not. One.

7:24

Of them there is no. Blake.

7:27

Said I. Should. I.

7:29

Tell people I killed the dog. Well.

7:32

I mean. You. Sit in a

7:34

killed the dog but also know. Not.

7:37

What did she not have a

7:39

single person say? Like all, don't don't

7:42

tell that show, some tell that

7:44

story. I mean, I guess

7:46

I'm glad that she did tell that story isn't

7:48

that we all know. Disease. Yeah,

7:51

a puppy. Killer. I

7:54

didn't believe like nobody was like.

7:56

Hey. Ah, i

7:59

wouldn't Like an editor didn't like leave her a

8:01

note, like, hmm. Leave this out. Yeah.

8:05

Well the craziest part is I am 100% confident she

8:07

didn't actually write that book, that it was a ghost

8:10

writer who writes for politicians. It was, she said that.

8:12

She said that. So I

8:14

just wanna talk to this ghost writer who

8:17

was like, yeah, I'll leave that in. Cause you

8:19

know, Christy didn't even read her own book. The

8:22

ghost writer could have been like, backspace that

8:24

bit, she'll never know, she'll

8:26

never read it. What? I

8:29

could know. Was she dictating that? Was she

8:31

saying like, so then anyway, I take Cricket

8:33

to the gravel pit and I'm like, look

8:35

at the flowers, Cricket. Jesus.

8:39

I mean, I

8:41

don't know. I guess there's also,

8:44

what's getting glossed over is there's also a

8:46

part where she made up a meeting with

8:48

Kim Jong Un that

8:50

never happened. I saw her getting

8:52

drilled for that in an interview. Cause she like

8:54

made up this whole meeting about how she

8:56

stared down the petty little tyrant and

8:59

that definitely didn't happen. No, it didn't happen. And

9:02

like she's now taking it out cause she

9:05

can't. And people are like,

9:07

why did you put it in there for it wasn't true. And

9:09

she's like, I'm not gonna talk about that.

9:11

It's like, well, I think you got it.

9:13

All right, let's talk about the dog again.

9:15

All right, let's go back to the dog

9:18

then. Well, that's the thing, like politicians line.

9:20

Yeah, all right, sure. Politicians shooting dogs, is

9:22

this our new normal? Like, yeah, my campaign

9:24

slogan, I'll shoot your dog for you. I'll

9:26

get the hard job done shooting dogs. That's

9:29

what no one wants to do in this

9:31

country, but needs to happen. We

9:33

finally found the thing

9:36

that would unite us all. See,

9:38

that's what I thought. I thought this is the one

9:40

thing that everyone could agree on, but I mean,

9:43

she put it out there thinking it would help. But

9:46

I, okay, I don't know. Cause

9:48

I don't watch TV news, but I

9:51

get served clips of TV news interviews

9:53

on TikTok. I Have

9:55

not seen a single interview going well

9:57

for her on any, no, on any

9:59

news station. And across the political

10:01

spectrum. I have not seen and

10:03

I see multiple conservative. Talking heads out

10:05

there go on like. No, no I

10:08

say it's because why did you kill

10:10

your dog is a really hard question

10:12

to have a good as soon. As

10:16

I say dog. They. All

10:19

say puppy they all say part is it

10:21

was a puppy it was I'm just saying

10:23

like it's it's it's a more charged were

10:25

emblems a cricket, City I

10:28

certainly given us his name. Why?

10:30

Did she do the heavy like inside the like?

10:32

She named him something like aggressive or lake and

10:34

was kinda lied about his name issues though. I

10:37

mean that Kim Jong Un why did see live

10:39

out his name and him something scary. Likely

10:42

to Joe. Ricketts

10:44

Bird Dog. Yell

10:47

at us. Some.

10:50

Is battling. It's really like. I

10:52

mean, it's awful. Like I'm not. I'm not saying it's

10:55

awful. It's is. Politicians.

10:57

And and so many elected officials have done

10:59

so many awful things. like the idea of

11:02

one of them doing something awful is not

11:04

new right? Lake One of them was President

11:06

for a while and in an awful awful

11:08

horrible things that we all know about. and

11:10

none of those. Like. None

11:12

of those shock me. The fact that she did this doesn't.

11:15

Shock Me. I mean. There.

11:17

Are people who do these things? The

11:19

fact that she would think like this

11:21

is gonna win over. This.

11:23

Is odorless story to tell to reflect

11:26

the kind of person I am. Yeah.

11:30

Why did he kill the Go? I

11:32

don't. See

11:36

it as at the good

11:38

with. Said

11:41

are all I don't know. I don't know.

11:43

I see I'd have to read got I

11:45

don't want to read since the nose books

11:47

to find out why? Did I mean it

11:49

is like a cliffhanger right? Why

11:51

did she go the width of videos?

11:53

Sigma: What's the goats name see? Explain

11:56

what? Secure Cricket: I don't agree with

11:58

it. It's awful, but that. The.

12:00

The goat is. Wrong.

12:03

Place wrong time. It's.

12:06

Not a He's a he people. I

12:10

you understand anything about this

12:12

story? It's incredibly baffling. But

12:16

it. but I really. I mean I

12:18

have seen their so see people defending

12:20

her. There's so few people out there

12:22

say like now listen sometimes. Because.

12:26

What? She doesn't understand and. I'm.

12:29

Surprised to see listen to the Cota and I

12:31

thought South Dakota was more of like a rural.

12:34

Town a place. Called. Like us

12:36

and here West Virginia, you know what I mean. People.

12:39

Who live out in the country and I used

12:41

to donor and saying let me tell you. West.

12:44

Virginians would not be okay with

12:46

you kill and your dog. Absolutely

12:49

No, Absolutely not. And I live

12:51

in a very red state. People.

12:53

Here Love their dogs. They.

12:56

Many of them do love Donald Trump,

12:59

but they also do love their dogs

13:01

and they would not not support. You

13:03

kill And your dog? Yeah, so

13:06

I don't know. I.

13:08

I. Gotta say guys I looked up was.

13:12

I didn't realize as kill again I

13:14

literally ties nigga the light existing killer.

13:16

Go on. Cause

13:18

I didn't need I did Authority to put

13:21

last name says i thought there's only one

13:23

sees the other killed ago and I was

13:25

right and someone did the work and. Are

13:27

reading the book. And

13:30

or an article titled known as.killing

13:32

of really bad but to understand.

13:34

To consider the boot. It

13:38

is a go sit around

13:40

do blue let's let's see

13:43

if is. So

13:46

anyways it is after still cricket.

13:48

says. She's still

13:50

in an uncontrollable rage. What beckett

13:52

to the yard I spotted are

13:54

billy goat. this is

13:57

the article about the nameless goats only sit

13:59

in that moment was being in Noam's field

14:01

of view. She

14:03

just killed a goat because she was mad.

14:05

In the book, she tried to justify her

14:07

snap decision by writing that it loved to

14:09

chase her children and would knock them down

14:11

and butt them, leaving them terrified. And also

14:13

it had a wretched smell. Yeah, it's a

14:16

goat. It's a goat. It's a

14:18

goat. It's a goat. That whole

14:20

thing is like head, butt,

14:22

and stuff. But

14:24

apparently not a bad bit, a big enough problem to

14:26

do anything about it. Until Noam got angry enough to

14:28

kill a dog, it decided she needed to kill again.

14:31

So on our way back from killing cricket,

14:33

she grabbed a goat and killed it. This

14:35

person needs help. This person needs to be

14:38

locked up. Aren't there

14:40

laws against just wantonly killing

14:43

animals? There are. What

14:45

would be the law? There is explicitly a

14:47

South Dakota law that says it's a

14:49

classic felony to commit cruelty to animals,

14:51

period. That considered cruelty,

14:53

if you, well, that is why she

14:55

is given reasons in her interviews and

14:58

in her book that are very closely

15:00

tied to the legal justifications you can

15:02

have for coming cruelty to animals. That's

15:04

what I was going to say. But

15:06

they're very specific. Like if it commits

15:08

bodily harm to another human

15:11

or destroys property or something, I

15:13

don't know. But that might

15:15

not be one. But yeah. Yeah.

15:18

But that's not, I mean, that's something that,

15:20

don't you have to prove that and then

15:22

get authorities? You can't

15:24

just say it in a book that you didn't write. This

15:27

world is awful to animals. Animals

15:30

have no protections. But I thought at the very

15:32

least you can't just say, yeah, I shot it

15:34

because it was bad. And everyone goes, okay, sure.

15:37

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

15:40

I don't. I definitely know how that

15:42

works. See, that is an impulse control problem. That

15:44

is something that needs, like you need, how does

15:46

you need to talk to someone about, like I've

15:48

never, I have

15:53

gotten mad at my cats when they pee on

15:55

my bed. Just

15:57

the one pees on my bed and pees on Cooper's

15:59

bed. It just the two of us, not Charlie Charlie

16:01

left out of line of fire. The Us and Cooper.

16:05

I. Don't know we'll figure that out,

16:07

but. Ah, I have never once

16:09

in my anger over having to wash

16:11

the seats again. It's there is not

16:13

a. Us sell in my

16:16

body that has wanted to inflict

16:18

physical harm. On. My

16:20

pets of almost every day when

16:22

my cat takes a poop. He

16:25

gets scared of the smell of his

16:27

own to and so he runs away

16:29

from it. But often he runs away

16:31

from it before he's them pooping. So

16:33

he leaves a sprinkling of whoop all

16:35

around my apartment. He's.

16:37

A fifteen year old man, Isis clean it

16:39

up. I move on. I love the. I

16:42

I've is my guinea pig p directly

16:44

to my cup of tea and the

16:46

other day physicists at school you go

16:48

who are yeah I was holding heard

16:50

she was coddling is me and then

16:52

you have to keep the hand under

16:54

their boat to support the back side

16:56

A hand under her but and I

16:58

wanna penalise pet in there and it

17:00

was such tender moment and first step

17:02

ahead of. Oh

17:04

you're about to p areas back to put her

17:06

down so she could p where she pees in

17:08

said she just. Settle down and

17:11

got real currency. And. Did like a

17:13

little dog circle were like the circle around and

17:15

get comfy. good and cheap. A hand this is

17:17

like is simply a like. Had say that this

17:19

podcast can I know. My

17:22

him and of I'm gonna cut that out

17:24

of had that our lovely I can't believe

17:26

I can't believe I'm the one that he

17:28

it with the road cursor. All we've never

17:30

done that. Her on her hands

17:33

of feel like a curse. Doesn't

17:35

feel like occurs to me. big can you say

17:37

you see it on T V rate. Realize

17:40

that you can see on Tv a minute. Cable

17:42

Tv. Like the

17:44

nightly news. Is that none had a

17:46

bleep? Know. I'll

17:49

teach him in case of the gym

17:51

at a bleep he's never had to

17:53

before. Ah ite! Yeah. And

17:55

I mean I am not gonna just

17:57

just as a caviar. Obviously. I

18:00

will also say. That. Someone who

18:02

works in Madison? I am. Aware

18:04

that there are dogs that.

18:06

Have attacked like actually really harm than idea. I don't.

18:09

I don't want to get a at right? I don't

18:11

want to get into that like there is that. There

18:13

is another part of this that is. I

18:15

have seen the aftermath of and so I

18:18

can understand. If. There is

18:20

a dog attacking you or your child

18:22

or something. In that moment,

18:24

doing anything to save a human life

18:26

like I'm not, I'm not sitting here

18:28

saying like there's. No, you know

18:30

what I mean. Like obviously there are there

18:32

are moments where. You could be. Human.

18:35

Versus Animal and will meet our allies is

18:37

at stake. This it's It's not that this

18:39

was not that there was no part of

18:41

it. that was that. Know A I

18:43

mean I wanted to see also like

18:46

to see have a fascination with. Fire

18:48

Does she have a problem with bed wetting

18:51

laden? I see a think this is the

18:53

sniffle like it's. Like the Golden try to

18:55

tie. At. Six. I

18:59

don't know. it's I. Think that I see

19:01

really unsettling and. I don't

19:03

But and I'm I'm glad to see that like

19:05

the seems to be a unifying thing that most

19:07

people. Whatever. Their political beliefs

19:10

or like us too far now.

19:12

I will say it's concerning that this

19:14

is the only too far. And

19:17

they're all still Yeah, Trump did to

19:19

women with not too far apparently was

19:21

not too far but this is too

19:23

far. I just want to throw that

19:25

their. This. Is the

19:27

too far? Currently

19:30

on New Political Texas Before Oleksyn every politician

19:32

has to spend time alone in a room

19:34

with a goat, a gun and we have

19:37

to see what happens. Get. The

19:40

you kill cricket. Am.

19:42

I willing to also point out because we're

19:44

talking about bird dogs and what's a bird

19:46

dog. That. This article says

19:48

says that she's not cricket because he

19:51

was bad it says and hunting and

19:53

good at picking twenty. So.

19:57

He still got a bird. But.

20:00

I guess the wrong bird. Do

20:02

we expect dogs to

20:04

have a concept of different birds? Species?

20:07

Okay. I'm assuming

20:10

you don't want them to hunt chickens,

20:12

because we don't hunt chickens. Right.

20:14

Wild chickens? I don't know.

20:16

There are wild chickens. They're

20:20

domesticated right there like far back. It's gotta

20:22

be wild somewhere. They've

20:24

gotta come from somewhere. They're

20:27

not wild! Did you cover

20:29

this when we talked about hamsters? Hamsters are in

20:31

fact wild somewhere in the world. They

20:33

just roam and they're little heads to back. Are there wild chickens?

20:37

I think that's supposed to be a clever turn of

20:39

phrase, because the dog maybe killed a

20:41

chicken that was like on the farm,

20:44

but wouldn't kill the... Now

20:47

they... I

20:50

just can't with this. I can't. There are

20:52

feral chickens. Nice. Nice.

20:55

Of course there are. Okay.

21:01

Well, location's famous for feral chickens. Oh, do

21:03

you want something to make you feel really

21:05

good? Planet of my vacation. So

21:07

many are in America. Are

21:10

any in West Virginia? No. That

21:12

seems... Well, they haven't been found yet.

21:15

Yeah, you don't know what we got here. It makes sense.

21:19

They're extra feral. Most

21:21

of the locations they're available... they're found

21:24

in America or in Florida. Oh,

21:26

yeah. So that checks out. You

21:29

know, listen, Florida. We

21:32

got everything you got. We're just better at hiding it,

21:34

so... Except feral chickens.

21:37

I don't know, but I don't have those. It's

21:39

too bad, because that would be good for that python

21:43

that's on the loose. There were some feral chickens for

21:45

it to eat. You know, I saw

21:47

a news story the other night about a guy

21:49

who caught and brought a snake back to the

21:51

wild in Charleston. I thought it was... And I

21:53

thought maybe it was your snake. I saw that

21:55

article too. That's real far for that snake to throw off. Right?

21:58

That's like a forty-five. minute

22:00

drive by car

22:02

and that's only if the

22:05

snake took 64 you gotta imagine

22:07

it took some back row

22:11

and there's all that construction by the mall exit

22:13

I mean it did take you forever

22:20

snake taking 64 more than

22:23

you can handle in

22:27

my head you just make it along the side of

22:29

the 64 yeah I've pictured

22:31

him just behind the wheel of

22:34

a car man I wish they'd

22:36

finished this construction he

22:38

can't even lift an arm up to signal if

22:40

he's turning or merging so he just

22:43

kind of has to like pop his head

22:45

yeah like this way this

22:47

way we

22:51

have we guys were really bad these

22:53

days at talking about how to talk

22:56

about this podcast Taylor we need to

22:58

talk about the movie that was an

23:00

actual perfect depiction of what life was

23:03

like back in the 90s Riley it

23:05

was very accurate to

23:07

what computers did and what

23:09

people wore and

23:11

how teens were I asked

23:16

you all to watch hackers just from 1995 and is

23:20

about a band of teenage

23:23

hackers that helped

23:25

take down some corrupt I

23:27

don't know Wall Street people

23:30

that are gonna create an

23:32

ecological disaster to cover the tracks

23:34

of their white color

23:37

crime it is

23:39

okay I had never seen hackers

23:42

I was very familiar no I had

23:44

never watched it I was familiar with

23:46

it and like certainly there are aspects

23:48

of it that permeated our culture I

23:50

think I did not realize

23:52

that's where lead hacker

23:57

I mean must that turn of phrase must have

23:59

come How many times do they call people

24:01

elite? Or as if like,

24:03

well you know, elite. Hack

24:06

the planet. Oh my god, hack

24:08

the planet. Hack the planet.

24:11

Come on, it's a beautiful film.

24:14

I am a criminal, my crime is that

24:16

of curiosity. That

24:20

is so 90s, it is very 90s. I

24:23

audibly win. It

24:27

is a very silly movie, but

24:29

there's a lot about it that I really

24:32

love. Well, Matthew

24:34

Lillard is in it, so it's hard not

24:36

to love it for that one reason alone.

24:38

Matthew Lillard is in it, I think in

24:40

one of his most Matthew Lillard roles ever.

24:43

Yeah. Like he's just a

24:45

total weirdo and like, I

24:47

don't know. It kind

24:50

of reminded me as if his character

24:52

from Scream was allowed to just be

24:54

a normal teen and didn't kill people.

24:56

Yeah. Like he had a better circle

24:59

of influence. Yeah, like instead of

25:01

choosing the crime of murder, he chose the crime

25:03

of hacking. He's still a little

25:05

weirdo, but he's a good little weirdo instead

25:07

of a real weirdo. Right,

25:09

and he doesn't watch scary movies, he just reads

25:11

everything I guess because he can quote anything.

25:14

Yeah. Including the Bible. Didn't

25:18

expect that out of Matthew Lillard. Matthew Lillard.

25:21

I appreciated this. Well, but he's a serial killer. No,

25:24

he's a serial killer. Oh,

25:26

yeah. Well, this was before Scream,

25:28

wasn't it? But serial is in the

25:30

breakfast cereal. Right. I

25:33

think that's before Scream. Wasn't Scream 98? I

25:36

don't know. I was going to say it would have been close.

25:39

I mean, he looks like Scream Matthew Lillard in it.

25:42

Yeah, definitely close. Yeah.

25:46

A very young Angelina Jolie there. Yeah,

25:48

yeah. This

25:51

would have been probably... There

25:53

you go. This would have been around

25:55

Girl Interrupted time too. This is when Angelina Jolie

25:57

was so cool. I mean, I'm not saying that.

26:00

she's not now. I just mean like she

26:02

was the epitome of like cool

26:04

girl. Yeah. I

26:07

know this was probably before she was wearing the vial of blood

26:09

around her neck I think. That

26:12

was the whole thing. I mean the main. Yeah. There

26:15

was a lot going on with Angelina Jolie for

26:17

a while. She just always been very cool but

26:19

also kind of spooky. Mm-hmm.

26:24

I don't even know where to start with this

26:26

movie. So Riley

26:28

you got to know people did not

26:30

understand computers very well at this point

26:33

in time. Clearly. What? I

26:35

thought they understood them perfectly.

26:41

So I don't, hey do you want to give a

26:43

quick rundown of our plot?

26:45

We've got to start back in 1988 with Zero

26:49

Cool. Zero Cool aka Dave

26:51

Murphy was a young

26:53

hacker who took

26:56

down over

26:58

a thousand computers. One

27:00

thousand five hundred and

27:02

seven. Yeah. And I guess

27:04

at the age of, what is

27:07

it, he was 11? Probably would have been like 11. Yeah.

27:09

And so he was banned

27:12

from using computers or even a

27:14

touch-tone phone because those could be

27:16

used to hack. Do

27:18

you know what a touch-tone phone is?

27:20

No. I wondered. I had

27:22

that thought. I was like Riley's not

27:24

going to know what they're talking about.

27:27

I have no idea. Like I didn't look

27:29

it up. A phone where you hit buttons. Okay.

27:33

So a phone. Well. Actual

27:35

buttons and they made tones.

27:38

Boop, boop, boop, boop, boop. So

27:40

like the Nokia I had. Well

27:43

I mean yeah or like a corded

27:45

house phone where you boop, boop, boop,

27:47

boop, boop. Okay. That's a, as opposed

27:50

to a dial-up. Rotary phone. Okay. Have

27:52

you seen those? Yeah. Where you have

27:54

the little thing and you spin it.

27:56

Yeah. That is what they're, that

27:58

is why they say touch-tone. because you

28:00

couldn't hack with a rotary phone but you

28:02

can hack with a touch-tone phone. The

28:05

concept that you could hack with a

28:07

corded phone, they're

28:10

hacking through the payphone. Oh, I know.

28:13

I'm just saying in general, the concept that you could

28:15

hack through a corded phone is wild.

28:17

Yeah. Well, dial up internet.

28:19

Boop, boop, boop, boop, boop. I'm going to

28:21

use that. Yeah. So, so...

28:24

I'm down. Yeah. So, so... On

28:27

the outside. Yeah. Young, young date was

28:29

banned from computers until he was 18. So

28:31

of course, as soon as he turns 18, he's

28:34

back in business, baby. But

28:36

for whatever... Back to hacking. Yeah.

28:39

And you know what's funny? Like usually the, the, the start

28:41

of the movie where the kid has to be moved by

28:43

his parents into a place that he hates. It's usually like,

28:45

oh, I used to live in a cool city and now

28:48

I have to live in this crappy small town. But

28:50

in this, the setup is, oh man, my mom

28:52

maybe moved to New York City. That sucks. Yeah.

28:56

Exactly. And I love, I was talking

28:58

about, Jess and I were

29:01

watching it, like the depiction of moms

29:03

at this point in film, no

29:05

one, I think this was, I was thinking about the

29:07

mom character a lot. So before

29:10

this age of movies, moms were

29:12

like, you know, the fifties

29:14

mom. Moms like cooked and

29:17

cleaned and took care of things at home and

29:19

scolded you for not washing your hands. And

29:21

then we moved into this era where they were like, uh, women

29:24

can do things now. We shouldn't do

29:26

that to women anymore. So

29:28

what do we do to the moms? I

29:31

don't know. Get

29:33

them divorced. That's a good step. Cause

29:35

then, then we can make them sexy.

29:39

The moms will be sexy and

29:42

maybe smoke and they'll

29:44

always be gone. That's,

29:47

we got nothing. We got nothing. What are

29:49

moms? Nobody involved who knows what moms are

29:51

at this point. What did mom, what were

29:54

moms in the nineties? Gone. Well,

29:56

gone, but sexy, but gone. Well

29:59

I think. I mean I got

30:02

the inference that they divorced because

30:04

their son cost them $45,000 which

30:09

is a lot of money today. In

30:12

1988. Well when you could

30:14

afford things, I don't know. I think that

30:16

was probably less money in 1988 than it

30:19

is today. Oh

30:21

that's true. But

30:23

so I don't know. I'm not going to get out of

30:26

the picture because the hacker son broke up the, hacked

30:29

the family. He

30:32

destroyed the family. Why didn't, what

30:35

did he do when he shut down those Wall Street computers? I

30:37

guess he was just shutting stuff down. He just did it

30:39

so he could. I mean I think that's

30:41

actually a legitimate depiction of hackers today because

30:43

a lot of times hackers just hack things

30:46

to say look we shut that website down

30:48

because we could. I

30:51

don't know. I was

30:53

watching it and I kept asking myself the question

30:55

was this cool? Because

30:58

there are parts of it like the

31:00

way people, the attitude and the way

31:02

people talk about computers was

31:04

that I don't remember that being like the

31:06

cool thing in the 90s. No I

31:08

don't think this was I think I

31:11

mean I'm fairly certain

31:13

that actual hackers hacked the hackers website

31:15

at the time that this movie came

31:17

out. Really? To kind

31:20

of make fun of the movie. I

31:23

do think this was people kind of fantasticalizing

31:26

what they thought cool computer

31:29

people would be. The

31:33

outfits. The outfits, the rollerblades, the

31:36

idea that everybody that hacks of

31:38

course gets around on rollerblades.

31:40

Of course. And in situations that it is

31:42

not, this is an odd place to be

31:44

wearing rollerblades. I

31:46

can't get over, our lead character, Dade,

31:50

the vest, the

31:52

camo vest with the orange stripes or red

31:55

stripes or whatever on it.

32:00

Hiroshi suspend or things that are hanging

32:02

off the back of them without was

32:04

ash and rate is no okay this

32:06

is what I was okay. There

32:09

is. At one

32:11

point I think Angelina Jolie is wearing

32:13

like Sin Guards. Might. Just

32:16

out and around. This was

32:18

Not. Com. In

32:20

Fashion of Nineteen Ninety Four, No, I'm

32:22

not saying no one dress like this.

32:25

I'm just saying the idea that this

32:27

is the way people look in the

32:29

nineties made me feel like did I

32:31

live in the like? I know I

32:34

was in school in Ninety Ninety Five.

32:38

Males. A couple years younger than these people, but

32:40

still. I mean you knew what he wore a dress

32:42

and I saw p I had I saw. People.

32:46

Welders, The one coasters tongue I

32:48

notice he was cause the way leopard

32:51

print and then laden. So the boys

32:53

that the uncool not hacker boyfriend character

32:55

Vinci's Julie's like those lip uproot guy

32:58

like oh so that's his thing is

33:00

obvious a leopard rest. Of

33:04

I mean there is that there is a

33:06

layer of. It's set in New York City.

33:08

Where. Ah I mean I

33:11

feel like. It's it's

33:13

somewhat believable. The kids in the nineties.

33:15

Teenagers in the nineties Like club kids

33:17

As the Air have club kids like.

33:20

Would have been dressing very very

33:23

cool and very eccentric. I don't

33:25

think it necessarily overlapped with. Kids

33:28

seven really smart with computers but who

33:30

knows this other. listen to their who

33:32

are we to judge and they played

33:34

video games. But.

33:36

Like cool video games in clubs.

33:39

Ray ask you into cool clubs where

33:41

you roller blade into the club when

33:43

he rollerblades. They're also receipts this effect

33:45

like for your own lives up there

33:48

to lead a jolie it like. A

33:50

minute beat you scored the video game

33:52

and souffle not all white cotton body

33:54

suit like what is less if. I

33:58

have no idea. I don't. And.

34:01

Also. Said those The Guy

34:03

the actor who played the main character.

34:06

Is doing anything right? Yeah.

34:09

Besides. He's like a British

34:11

actor, right? Busy. I'm

34:14

pretty. I don't recognize any. Be ten, I know. Him

34:16

from trainspotting boy. I'd

34:20

I'd. Yeah, he has. He's

34:22

English. Ah, okay. His

34:24

American accent. Can.

34:26

We can we just for a second

34:28

talk about. What Is

34:31

the? What am

34:33

I supposed to feel about those

34:35

the his his whole thing like.

34:40

It. See, I don't out. It's like this

34:42

character ropes and Six in about his

34:44

life and this is well. yes. Yes

34:47

yes it it is Lazy

34:49

eye. Yeah. That's.

34:52

Exist because there. Are

34:56

things like. Do

34:58

my ears deceive me like this says

35:00

things like a specific. This

35:02

mess is too bad. Eggs like I

35:04

like to read as soon. As.

35:10

I don't know any is like are cool

35:12

leading man yeah. Also

35:16

what is the okay. I've

35:18

really gotten it. I mean, There's

35:20

the There's a big climactic

35:23

hacking scene. Where. They

35:25

hack so hard that they save the day,

35:27

right? And they're all

35:29

like at pay phone hacking

35:31

simultaneously. And. He puts

35:33

on that those glasses with the extra

35:36

screen over his I the. One yeah,

35:38

I don't know what that does sound.

35:40

With I sat there looking at a com. what

35:42

is that pieces equipment he's wearing? What is it

35:44

doing? Is. It another

35:47

screams. And

35:49

muscle I will baby screen so

35:51

he can double hockey. Several hacking

35:53

plot to time. It's plugged into his

35:55

laptop sleeve. like he says, look at

35:57

the same screen. See. Me:

36:00

Apple vision for

36:04

Apple. There was. I

36:06

like to think as I was watching this

36:08

that the understanding of computers at

36:11

the time was just oh now

36:13

things can be done on this kind of screen there's

36:15

a new kind of screen so in their

36:17

head it was like imagine

36:21

what you could do with so

36:23

many screens which

36:25

to be fair they had a point in

36:28

that I often find myself with small

36:30

screen with my phone and then large

36:32

screen the TV and then a medium-sized screen

36:34

like my laptop and then

36:37

even maybe a more medium-sized screen like my

36:39

switch or my Kindle like I often find

36:41

myself with multiple screens in front of me

36:43

to keep me occupied to hack at all

36:45

times are you hacking well no just like

36:48

playing Animal Crossing and

36:51

trying to keep myself so occupied I can't

36:53

have any other thoughts but I

36:55

mean they have a point that

36:57

we have developed many kinds of screens yeah

37:00

yeah not for hacking I think hacking

37:02

is usually done with like a

37:05

screen they I mean yeah I

37:07

would imagine that maybe multiple computers could

37:09

be used sure for it at

37:11

the same time but I don't think it's I

37:14

don't think it they're all like I don't

37:16

know I mean it's like the like the

37:18

password thing where it's like oh yeah delete

37:20

hacker knowledge is the most common passwords like

37:22

I'm pretty sure when hackers steal passwords they

37:25

have programs that are designed to run yeah incredibly

37:29

high numbers of combinations of

37:31

words of numbers until they

37:33

figure things out yeah

37:36

it's not like we know yeah you

37:38

know this information Justin made the

37:41

point what do you think are the odds that in

37:43

1995 the school the high

37:46

school sprinkler system was wired into

37:48

the internet hackable like this the

37:55

internet was barely there these

37:58

things were not on the internet yet like Like

38:00

you couldn't hack into some of these things because they

38:02

weren't ... That's a really good

38:04

point actually that I hadn't thought about. I don't

38:06

think you could have adjusted somebody's class

38:08

schedule using the internet in the 90s. I

38:10

bet that was all on paper, wasn't it? I

38:13

would bet. There was definitely like

38:15

a hard computer database that you could access

38:17

that would maybe have it, but it's not

38:19

linked into any sort of system. Well,

38:22

and that was when it got printed out

38:24

on that paper

38:26

with the holes all along the edges. And

38:29

you just had to save that and

38:31

hold on to it. Do you know what I'm talking about? Have

38:33

you seen that? Why are you looking at me

38:36

asking if I know what you're talking about? No, this

38:38

was Riley's never seen the

38:40

paper before. I started high

38:42

school in 2014. I

38:46

don't know what that paper's called, but it's got the holes all over there. It's

38:48

the same paper that our report cards came on. Yes.

38:53

Yeah. That's definitely something where somebody just typed it

38:55

all in, printed it out, and your file was

38:57

gone. Do

38:59

you remember when they would do that thing in middle

39:01

school where they would tell you your love matches in

39:03

the school? Oh yeah, that was weird. That

39:06

was also printed out on that. You would take a

39:08

quiz and then they would tell you what five kids

39:10

in the school you're most compatible with. How wild was

39:12

that? That's gross. I know. That

39:15

is super gross. Yeah, yeah. That was

39:17

in middle school. They did that on a TV show

39:19

I watched, and I remember watching, I think it was

39:21

Ned's Declassified School Survival Guide, and I remember thinking like,

39:24

why would you do that to children? Be your children.

39:27

I'm still excited about computers, but nobody understood them

39:29

or what to do with them. Well,

39:31

and I think that's part of the problem with this

39:33

movie is they definitely ... I mean, it's

39:36

a movie, so they had to make the hacking look

39:38

cool. Maybe the people that wrote

39:40

this movie understood that hacking doesn't actually ... You

39:42

don't go through a three-dimensional environment

39:46

like you're piloting some sort of

39:48

spaceship through the internet. That's not

39:50

what it looks like. It's just

39:52

a series of numbers going on

39:55

your screen. I ... How

39:57

many times did they use that like screen?

40:00

screensaver You

40:02

know what I mean like with all the towers

40:04

that they were like floating through Yeah and

40:06

then the top the floating tower and then like the Equals

40:09

MC square and all the equations and

40:11

stuff floating by and then that

40:14

just like the amorphous shapes and colors

40:17

Yeah, like it's some sort of weird mystical. I

40:20

don't know you're in Tron I mean

40:22

it was it was like this is like this

40:24

is what it's like to hack you're like Tron

40:26

I mean part of it is probably it's a movie

40:28

so they needed to make it Visually

40:30

interesting and part of it is definitely like nobody

40:32

in our audience knows how this stuff works. So

40:34

this is fine This is fine. Well, do you

40:37

think this was like their their hopeful? depiction

40:39

of what the internet would become soon

40:43

Like look at how cool it's gonna be Well,

40:46

I know it's supposed to be taking place

40:48

like, you know in 95, but I just

40:50

thought I don't know like They

40:52

can't have thought this is how it works, right? I Think

40:56

that there are as silly as

40:58

this movie is I think that there

41:00

is an awareness that at some point

41:03

Everything is gonna be accessible through the

41:05

internet, which was correct. Mm-hmm. Like that

41:07

is I don't know

41:09

if today you could hack a school's I

41:15

don't know. I don't know

41:17

but I mean most everything

41:20

is interconnected And

41:23

and it was it was true We

41:28

figured out how to connect things

41:31

and like the product of You

41:34

can do things faster if it's

41:36

online that that got pushed to

41:38

a wide variety of businesses

41:41

and companies and infrastructure and governments before

41:45

safety and Security was

41:47

pushed as hard. There was a

41:49

lag. There was a time where

41:52

people were just Wilding

41:54

out putting everything online and

41:56

had no concept of like

41:58

how vulnerable or easy it would

42:01

be to mess with that.

42:03

And so they are talking about that,

42:05

which was very true. Like that lag

42:07

did happen and then, you

42:10

know, I think we kind of caught up with it. But that was

42:12

true. Well,

42:15

and I feel like there's a core

42:17

message in this movie that is relevant

42:19

because the idea is information

42:22

should be known. It should be

42:25

shared, you know? That in this

42:27

age where everything is immediately accessible,

42:30

why shouldn't the general public know what's

42:32

going on? Yes. Because they

42:34

say that several times, that it's about the freedom of

42:37

information. And I mean, we deal with that now, right?

42:39

I think that the answer to that is like, at

42:42

some point the powers that be understood,

42:44

okay, we can't keep people from knowing

42:46

things, so we just

42:48

have to flood them with so much information

42:51

that the truth gets lost in the

42:53

mess, which is where we're at today.

42:55

But I do think this movie kind of had an

42:58

awareness of that long before it

43:01

actually was, you know, a talking

43:03

point reality. Right. That

43:05

there's no excuse for our government

43:07

to hide things from us if we can know

43:09

things immediately. Well, it also was such

43:11

a, so it

43:14

is true that younger people understood

43:16

this emerging technology generally better

43:18

than the older people did. And

43:21

so it was a power that,

43:23

you know, I mean, we're probably talking

43:25

like Gen Xers mainly sort of

43:27

wielded over their elders.

43:30

We understand this, we can control this,

43:32

you don't get it. And you

43:34

have to hire us to make

43:37

you understand it. So you're kind of at our

43:39

mercy. Because I

43:41

mean, ultimately, like even the bad guy, plague,

43:44

plague, plague. Call

43:47

me plague. Him, so like sinking the ships,

43:49

of course, is an evil act, that's bad.

43:52

But the stealing the money from

43:54

a big corporation, yeah, I don't

43:58

know. I mean, am I supposed to get... works up

44:00

about that. If the hackers,

44:03

if our heroes had been stealing money

44:05

from a big evil

44:10

corporation, that's

44:13

just Robin Hood. Yeah,

44:16

but the person that is

44:18

financing him is some rich lady,

44:20

white color criminal, I don't

44:22

know. What is she? She's a ... I can't

44:24

tell. She wears a sparkly suit.

44:28

That's her job. She drinks champagne,

44:31

doesn't understand what's happening, but does order the

44:33

guy around. A sparkly

44:35

suit. I thought she was

44:37

his boss and then his employee

44:40

and then I was like, no, they're together. Then

44:42

I don't know. I had so much difficulty figuring

44:44

out the relationship between those two and who she

44:47

was. I

44:49

think she worked for the big company. I

44:51

think she was embezzling. I

44:56

don't think that it

44:59

was bad that they were stealing from the

45:01

big company. I think it was, oh no,

45:03

these kids might have found our secret files

45:05

hidden in our garbage that describes our

45:08

stealing plan. We're going to sink

45:10

a bunch of oil tankers to distract

45:12

from it. I think that

45:16

was what makes them bad guys. No, that

45:18

was bad. I am not saying that wasn't

45:21

bad. Did you all, by the way, notice

45:23

that Mark Anthony is up in there? No.

45:28

Yeah, okay. Do you know the one

45:31

secret service? It's all the secret service, by the

45:33

way, which is wild to me. Yeah, a lot

45:35

of secret service up in there. One

45:38

of the secret service agents, Ray, the

45:41

sexy one, is

45:46

singer Mark Anthony. That

45:49

guy. I

45:54

don't remember that. You don't remember that? He

45:56

was married to J. Lo for a while? Well, I knew that. I

45:59

know who you are. Anyway, we were just washing and

46:01

doesn't I was like that's a distressingly handsome

46:03

secret service agent Will He play a role

46:05

in this film? And

46:07

just and like think it's Mark Anthony.

46:10

and yes it is. And.

46:13

He's like thirteen with the kids at the party.

46:18

The shown their like getting down okay

46:20

okay. I don't know. I relied on

46:22

a hot today. Is that was another plotline. I

46:24

lost it at some point. I

46:27

knew him as a J Lo. Partner at

46:29

one point. Says it. Yeah

46:32

I. Also I also would like to

46:34

say that there is a scene where it

46:36

the i'm his a hacker who gets busted

46:38

first. I'm

46:40

Ah. He later I recognize him because he

46:43

played the character Ryan Pure Some West Wing

46:45

later another alun. Brady's the one doesn't get

46:47

a cool nickname. yes is Joey. Did

46:49

you notice the obviously he's like addicted

46:51

to caffeine and cigarettes and part of

46:53

his plotlines. There is a moment

46:56

where he has a cigarette in

46:58

both hands and he's smoking. Cigarettes

47:01

A Both has. No

47:03

an average. The physicists know. I

47:06

only as I say I liked

47:08

it because I had this moment

47:10

rose like. Does a Be

47:12

will make you this movie Not know anyone who smokes

47:14

like. To there's a

47:16

lot of smoke in the movie. it's and

47:19

least attractive portrayal of smoking I've ever seen

47:21

and move it's actually penetrated like as it's

47:23

almost like a Truth Campaign anti smoking ad

47:25

because everyone smoking no one smokes well there's

47:28

smoke everywhere. Like every cigarette is like put

47:30

now I did they but times the amount

47:32

of smoke they normally do and they're all

47:34

like they make a lot of the like.

47:37

Puff? Yeah. Sounds like the

47:39

lips and only get look sexy

47:41

know if so and sexy. Well.

47:44

They make him go to some sort

47:46

of like as said they say i

47:48

blame for his computer addiction and I

47:50

think the joke is this all made

47:52

him so nervous and scared that now

47:54

he's seen smoking said he's got a

47:56

real addiction. Because. they punish him

47:58

for his not really dixon He was just having

48:00

a computer. He

48:03

did hack into a bank. Yeah,

48:06

I think he did it just to...

48:09

He liked it. Yeah,

48:11

the fancy computer just to show his friends that

48:13

he deserved a cool handle. That's the thing that

48:15

sets it all off. He was just

48:18

trying to steal something to show that he could get into

48:20

that computer. And then the people

48:22

he stole from got on his

48:24

tail. And that man,

48:26

apparently when the secret service shows up at your

48:28

house, there's a lot of

48:30

them. And they bring lots of guns.

48:34

I mean, I don't think that part is actually...

48:37

It might not be the secret service, but I do think

48:39

that that part... We live in

48:41

the age of swatting, where... I believe

48:43

that. That is actually the response to

48:45

a vague threat from

48:47

a teenager. Well,

48:52

I enjoyed it. If nothing else, I think it's 90s

48:55

in its idea of what it is. It's

49:00

a very 90s thing to think you're cooler

49:02

than you are. Yeah.

49:07

Well, but I don't know. I think

49:09

now, watching this now, I think the

49:11

fashion is great. Would I wear any

49:13

of it? I don't know. But I

49:16

think it's very fun. Yeah,

49:18

it is fun. I

49:20

think probably a generation or

49:22

two younger than me would look at that

49:24

and be like, oh, I'd wear everything that

49:26

these kids are wearing. That's

49:28

true. That's true. Yeah. And

49:31

I do think that the

49:33

message of the movie being

49:35

like collective action to combat

49:38

the powers that be is correct. I

49:41

mean, their whole manifesto

49:43

is that we're

49:46

around the world and we're all races

49:48

and we're all genders and we can't

49:51

individually work against these

49:53

people. But as a unit, we

49:56

can work against you. I think that's... Yeah,

49:58

and I think that was a real thing. Isn't it?

50:01

Would you mean yeah, there was a

50:03

real a hacker manifesto that they're putting.

50:07

It. In that isn't It was a computer

50:09

security hacker named Lloyd Blankenship who went

50:11

by the handle the Mentor. Who

50:15

wrote the Hacker Man? a manifesto encounter?

50:17

Kind of. probably. I would think inspired.

50:20

This idea of like this is what hackers are.

50:23

Enormous. Like. With today we

50:25

as anonymous isn't. Mistress

50:28

I don't know if they were very

50:30

cool. You know, sasson, Because

50:32

as narrow I don't know,

50:34

they rollerblade it. It's about. As

50:37

the key does, a roller blade says he was

50:39

that. Good guys are on rollerblades In the bad.

50:41

Guy was on a skateboard a similar the

50:43

be a delay know loves it as yell

50:45

at in the future. none of us walk

50:47

some. Well, I mean, they weren't

50:49

wrong about that. We do this. hover boards. To

50:52

sue home and. Upset. If they have

50:54

been around the hackers would definitely been on those. Oh yeah.

50:56

I. Don't know that the bad guy would a

50:58

big as I feel like today the worst people

51:00

you know. There's always some dude in

51:03

a suit make. Here. And hadn't

51:05

had low in down as I'd

51:07

walk on one of those. And

51:09

it's like that people want their

51:11

children are pigeons gas that hear

51:13

him Publicist Subarus he. Didn't

51:16

replace that. What's the thing with the

51:18

handle that Paul Blart Rides said when

51:20

he asked? Couldn't replace? Know Just just

51:23

men like twenty minutes in the National

51:25

Mall in D. C News: Cassie of.

51:29

The Segway Tories never stop. Well

51:32

Taylor, thank you. I

51:34

had Now I mean really I never seen

51:36

it and I also I was it's lack

51:38

enough it was. It was a wild ride.

51:40

It's a fun movie. Was not successful. In

51:42

its day, but it's I think it's nowadays considered

51:45

sort of a cult classic. I.

51:47

Had a very fun time. Yeah, now I think I

51:49

think of a lot. Of under to watch

51:51

out outright. There's. The a Hotter

51:54

eventually Now. Know. What's

51:58

next? Will. Next, I thought we

52:01

could talk about some music that is very

52:03

popular right now. So

52:05

much so that, you know, we all are familiar with it.

52:08

And that's Chapel Rhones, The Rise and Fall

52:10

of the Midwest Princess. Perfect. All

52:13

right. Yeah. I'm ready. Don't

52:16

worry. It's on Apple Music. Oh,

52:18

I know. I already downloaded that. We

52:21

found hackers. Where did I find it? I,

52:25

Pluto. I was going to say I paid for it.

52:27

It was on like, yeah, but that's very cool.

52:29

I guess we're supposed to steal it from. Could've

52:31

hacked for it. I know. I didn't hack

52:33

it. It's on something called Pluto. Like

52:37

the dog. Yeah. Mickey. But

52:39

it, which is free. But if you

52:42

watch the ads, you have to watch commercials. Oh, well,

52:47

I don't know. There you go. Now you got options or

52:50

hack it or hack it. Hack it. Hack

52:52

the planet. Hack the movie hackers. I

52:56

like when he's telling them the code. Backslash

52:58

shift command

53:02

garbage colon, which

53:06

is, I mean, that is probably more like what it is. Yeah.

53:08

They're just typing stuff. Yeah. All

53:11

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