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thought you kids just babe these days. Too

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hard, not the hardcore once. The.

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Hardcore when still smoke. You

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rape and then now and then

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you use those little a snuff

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pouches for caffeine or whatever nicotine

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or since, who the hell of

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nicotine, caffeine, or whatever. Some

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sort of stimulant. I would

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like to clarify I do not smoke or

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vapor or is in. My. Neck

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thou shalt lips and. I

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hope the. Who

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has sent can I do?

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I cannot believe that Snuff

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is cool. Barely

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if you put it in little pouches. but

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there have always been that Now the fact

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that it's just nicotine is new like they

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used to be. Little patches of like. Tobacco.

1:50

But. Still, I.

1:52

Didn't think I'd see a day that snuff would be cool. Ever

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never count out the tobacco.

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industry for for any new way to poison

2:02

children. Right?

2:04

Yeah. The moment that

2:06

they stopped fighting vapes and said no actually

2:08

never mind we're fine with vapes. Everybody should have

2:11

been like oh wait what? Uh-oh. Uh-oh.

2:13

Yeah you think. No.

2:18

Did you all watch Eurovision? I did

2:21

not. No. Why

2:24

don't you all watch Eurovision?

2:27

You watch weird funky, it's funky TV.

2:29

You watch, it's like, did you watch

2:31

Eurovision? Did you watch Doctor Who? I'm

2:33

gonna always answer no to those questions.

2:36

Okay, Doctor Who is great. I did

2:38

watch Doctor Who. Yes, it's so good right?

2:40

It's very good. I watched the

2:42

clips where Jinx Monsoon was there.

2:44

Jinx Monsoon was the main villain in the most

2:46

recent episode. Oh I haven't watched that one yet.

2:48

I watched Space Babies but I didn't watch that one. I

2:52

don't know. This is the funky

2:54

TV that I know you're really into

2:56

that I just don't. I do know

2:58

there's drama with Eurovision because I get

3:00

clips on my for you page but

3:02

that's about it. Here's

3:04

the thing that okay first of all

3:06

Eurovision brought us Abba so

3:09

I think we should always remember that. That

3:11

Eurovision gave us Abba. So

3:13

thank you Eurovision for Abba. Oh okay.

3:15

Yeah well I mean that's they did Waterloo

3:17

at Eurovision and won and everybody was like who

3:20

are these? We love these people. This is great.

3:22

Thank you. Eurovision

3:25

is always wild. It's a European song

3:27

contest if you don't watch Eurovision. Each

3:29

country puts up their own offering and

3:32

they have like numerous rounds. We

3:34

just watched the finals. I

3:36

don't watch the semi-finals and like how the

3:38

country the countries each have their own internal

3:40

competitions to choose like who's going

3:42

to represent them as well. I don't know anything

3:44

about all that part. I

3:47

just know the final. We're like oh

3:49

gosh how many are in the final like 17

3:51

countries or something make it to the final round and

3:54

put up. It's a song

3:57

that it's supposed to kind of represent

4:00

Either their country or something about

4:03

their country or something that is

4:05

inherently their culture. Like

4:07

it's a song for their whole country.

4:12

I think that's fascinating. They

4:14

have to choose this is the song that

4:16

we feel like best represents our whole country

4:19

in this song competition. Toa

4:21

Waterloo was, yep, the entire country

4:23

song. Okay so that exactly what

4:25

you just said, that is the

4:28

puzzle and because I'm an American

4:30

I'll never solve it. The

4:33

criteria that they're using, I don't know if it's,

4:35

sometimes it's a song that's like oh that's just

4:37

a good song. Sometimes

4:40

the performer is like super talented like that

4:42

oh my gosh that's one of the best

4:44

voices I've ever heard. Celine Dion competed once.

4:49

Not for Canada. Switzerland

4:53

I think? Is

4:56

she from there? I don't believe so. You

5:00

can draft people I think. He

5:02

just brought it, well if you're gonna bring in a ringer

5:04

he'd bring in Celine Dion. You bring in Celine Dion.

5:06

So like sometimes it's like a fantastic

5:09

singer. Sometimes the song is

5:11

great and then other times it's spectacle. Other

5:14

times it's like can you believe we're doing

5:16

this? And

5:19

I don't understand, we

5:21

were watching it and we

5:24

had a big group of friends over all watching it together and

5:26

they were like who do you think, like who usually wins, who

5:28

are the best ones, who's favored and I'm like I

5:30

never know. The ones that I

5:32

like best never win. I have

5:35

zero ability to predict. Like

5:37

if you ask me at the end like was that a good Eurovision

5:40

performance? I have no idea. I

5:42

know the ones I like. I know the ones I think are funny.

5:45

But if you ask me to rank like

5:47

how well they did, I guarantee you it

5:49

would be nowhere close to

5:51

what the finals are. Because

5:54

part of it is an aesthetic I don't think is

5:56

an American I understand. Part of

5:58

it is there's a popular vote. from

6:01

people, like people get to call in and vote.

6:04

Part of it is there's also like a

6:06

judge vote that's country specific and

6:10

there are politics at play, like obviously there are

6:12

broad politics that I understand as a citizen of

6:14

the world, but then there are like nuanced European

6:17

politics that I don't understand or know are

6:19

happening where countries are hated that I didn't

6:21

know were hated. Do you

6:25

know what I mean? Like

6:28

what's a surprise example of a hated

6:30

country? Okay, like I thought

6:32

Estonia did pretty well, like I thought

6:34

their song was pretty good and

6:36

nobody liked Estonia and like

6:39

they got such little support that

6:41

I started to wonder what did

6:43

Estonia do? Finland's was

6:46

hilarious. Finland's had

6:48

a performer named Windows

6:50

95 man who

6:52

came out in a Windows 95 t-shirt

6:56

and no pants, like

6:58

nothing on the bottom. That's what he did. You just

7:00

said, I don't know what they did, but you're

7:02

describing a man with no pants,

7:04

so I'm already not voting for that. He

7:07

came out of a denim egg and

7:11

there were other performers just dressed in

7:14

these giant denim outfits and then at the

7:16

very end a pair of jean shorts are

7:18

lowered onto the stage dramatically to him so

7:20

that he can put them on, so

7:22

that he can have jean shorts on and

7:25

the song was called No Rules. That

7:29

actually sounds pretty rad. You should watch the video.

7:31

How are you cool? Yeah, you should watch the

7:33

video. Now that I've seen the whole vision. Yeah,

7:36

you should watch the video. It's pretty funny, but

7:39

nobody else liked it, I guess. And

7:42

so then I'm like, I don't, what did

7:44

Finland do something that I didn't know about? I

7:49

mean sometimes it's obvious. Sometimes like, I

7:51

mean, you know, like Ukraine

7:54

has done very well. Their performances have

7:56

been very good, but also I

7:58

think that politically. they are

8:01

liked and supported, right? And so, like, you see

8:03

Ukraine perform very well, and part of that is

8:05

talent. Part of that is, like, people

8:08

are on the side of Ukraine. Russia

8:10

was banned from the competition. We

8:13

understand some of these politics, but

8:15

then there are other things that I don't always, I'm

8:17

like, I don't know what happened there. That's

8:21

the mystery of Eurovision. I

8:24

think I can tell my brain, is it working

8:26

at full speed today? Because I just tried to

8:28

look up what did Estonia do? And of

8:32

course it tried to tell me, like, the

8:34

entire history of Estonia. It's like, oh no,

8:37

I don't need to know about

8:39

that right now. Just what did they do to make everyone

8:41

hate them? There's

8:43

always stuff like that, and then

8:46

there's the performer's names. There was obviously Windows 95

8:49

man. The performer who won

8:51

from Switzerland, their name is

8:53

Nemo. The performer

8:55

from Ireland is named Bambi Thug.

8:57

Yeah, I saw a lot of

8:59

their videos on my For You page.

9:01

They were great. A lot of Bambi Thug. Yeah,

9:04

I loved Bambi Thug's whole thing. The performance

9:06

was great. The song was great. I

9:08

couldn't believe, because I just kept seeing random

9:11

clips, that it was all the same song,

9:13

because it felt like very different genres. And

9:15

then finally I was like, I gotta see

9:17

this whole thing. So I did seek that

9:19

out, and it's really lovely. You

9:22

should also watch Baby lasagna from Croatia.

9:25

Sure. Yeah, of course. Yeah,

9:27

Baby lasagna. Baby lasagna from Croatia. It

9:30

was fantastic. Croatia's performance with Baby

9:32

lasagna was fantastic. Why

9:35

is there a name Baby lasagna? I

9:37

don't know. I don't... And I generally...

9:40

Occasionally I'll just have to know, like, okay, everybody

9:42

seems to love this or hate this or whatever,

9:45

and I have to let Google and find out

9:47

more. But a lot of the

9:49

times I just resist that urge and just accept

9:51

that Eurovision is a mystery, that I am not...

9:53

As an American, I'm not supposed to understand. And

9:56

I'm also probably not supposed to weigh in on

9:59

in terms... of quality, right? Like I don't...

10:02

Why does my American opinion matter? It doesn't.

10:04

It sounds like is it just all of

10:06

Europe trying to out weird each other? Well,

10:10

yes, but when

10:13

I was trying to read why didn't people not

10:15

like Finland, I think part of

10:17

it is they went too far. I think that

10:20

they want it to be weird and a bit

10:22

of a spectacle, but if it's

10:24

too weird, then I think they get

10:26

offended like, oh, come

10:29

on, we're weird, but we're not ridiculous.

10:31

But I don't know what that line

10:33

is, obviously. So

10:35

I do think you can get too weird

10:37

for Eurovision. Can

10:41

I ask where do the judges come from?

10:43

Because I feel like there would be a

10:45

problem with bias if you have judges coming

10:47

from countries that are competing. Well, you're

10:49

not allowed to vote for your

10:52

country. So all the judges, like

10:55

all the countries who compete get to

10:57

throw votes out there, but

10:59

you just can't vote for your own country. So

11:01

you get the judge and like they, it's

11:03

like you give 12 points to the country

11:06

you like best and then it goes down from there.

11:08

But there's more than

11:10

12 countries, but you only have 12. That's the

11:12

max. And so every

11:14

country gets to vote, but you can't vote for

11:16

yourselves. And then

11:18

there's the popular vote. And

11:21

how do we know the country voting

11:23

isn't strategic to say like, I

11:26

think this country might do better than

11:28

us. Even though they were good, we're going to

11:30

give them one vote. 100%

11:32

is. At 100% at times you just see countries voting

11:34

for each other who are allies, who are just close

11:36

and like support each other. It sounds like the circle.

11:39

And like Americans,

11:42

they let us compete one year, I think in like the

11:44

semi-finals and they hated us and we never made it any

11:46

further. Oh, it doesn't make sense. We're not in the Euro.

11:48

Well, but I think we just really wanted to be there

11:50

and so they let us. But I think

11:52

that because there is a

11:54

popular vote element to this, there would

11:56

be no point. Why would we

11:58

ever like everybody. hates us, which is,

12:01

I mean, it's not, you know, that's, I

12:03

mean, it's well-learned, like, but

12:05

that's also why UK,

12:07

the UK

12:10

never does well because

12:12

they, they hate

12:15

us, but they, a

12:17

lot of Europeans hate the UK almost as much

12:19

as us, not as much, but almost

12:21

as much. I don't know. I would say, I would

12:23

say more. Maybe more. Yeah.

12:27

Because of Brexit,

12:29

but they got zero popular

12:31

vote. Wow. Zero.

12:34

It was why, and their, their song wasn't, it

12:36

wasn't bad. I thought it was actually

12:38

pretty good. It was an interesting performance

12:40

and decent song, but zero

12:43

votes. Wow. I feel like the diff, I

12:45

mean, we, we're over here just being big

12:47

old dummies that they can point and laugh

12:49

at. And you

12:51

know, that's, that's America's whole vibe. It's

12:54

a bunch of dummies over here,

12:56

but UK's like actively been, they've

12:59

been over there doing their

13:01

damage in the, in the EU

13:04

far more recently than we, we have. Well,

13:07

and I do, I do wonder if it's the,

13:10

the perception of Americans, and I have no

13:12

idea, this is just me theorizing, is that

13:15

it's not that we're intending

13:18

harm. We're just stupid. And

13:21

so we cause harm, but

13:23

that the UK is smarter. So their

13:25

harm is intentional. I don't know. Like

13:30

we're just, we're just a big

13:32

old country of idiots stomping around

13:35

accidentally knocking stuff over or something.

13:37

We are. Which isn't

13:39

true, by the way. Our

13:41

country is the personification of weaponized incompetence.

13:44

Yes. I mean, it's just on the weaponized.

13:47

I mean, it's just, it's, we're too big for

13:50

it to be one thing, but like there is

13:52

malicious intent sometimes. Some of it is incompetence. And

13:56

then there's a lot of apathy and then there's a

13:58

lot of people who. Are

14:00

comfortable enough that they don't pay attention. I

14:02

don't know it's a mixed bag over here

14:04

We could also never be goofy enough clearly

14:06

for Eurovision. I don't think we do I

14:08

don't think we do silly goofy very well

14:11

We take ourselves too seriously generally. They can

14:14

do irony. We're look at our music. We're

14:16

very good at irony Yes, I

14:18

think if they let someone from like Appalachia,

14:21

you know like the

14:24

wild and wonderful whites or something

14:26

Yeah, I think that would be

14:28

the best way to represent us

14:30

really It's just silly

14:33

enough. It doesn't take itself

14:35

too seriously, but it is taken serious

14:37

Yeah, we're kind of we're kind of

14:39

gonna go district 12 for our representation

14:41

is what you're saying. Yeah, like Lucy

14:43

Gray Baird. Yeah Yeah,

14:46

that's what I'm saying. I just

14:49

I worry that we would send like I I

14:52

don't know what we would do. I can't even

14:55

fathom like my worry is that

14:57

it would end up being a country Performance

15:00

and I don't hate all country music. This is

15:02

me hating on country, but I mean like I

15:05

will have country Huh, I will hate

15:07

on country openly. I will do that There's

15:09

old listen when you say I hate

15:11

all country music What about

15:13

Dolly Parton is the next question right

15:15

Johnny Cash right right? So like there's

15:17

old school country that would be cool

15:20

Okay What I'm talking about is the

15:22

new country that isn't really music that

15:24

is just like a collection of nouns

15:27

about America Set

15:29

to the same sort of twangy tune

15:32

and it's it's only its only purpose

15:34

is to Unite

15:37

the worst people in the country

15:39

against everyone else, right? Morgan

15:42

Wallin. Yes. Yeah, I mean I mean new country.

15:44

I don't mean old country. I mean the new

15:47

crappy stuff Yeah, no country's been co-opted.

15:49

It used to be the music of the

15:51

you know unionizers and

15:53

their rebels and the you know,

15:55

the everyman like actually they think

15:57

about overthrowing the government and You.

16:02

Know Taylor Swift us up in their. Little

16:04

A sonos us true. Yeah.

16:07

She started she's tired I will the

16:09

country if she then. Of

16:12

old old country will be very

16:14

sad about what new country is.

16:16

The all cargo could also kick

16:18

the pooper new country so I

16:21

would like to see that happen

16:23

with. When years that argument from

16:25

for it like Appalachia representing their.

16:28

And. But but the other

16:30

thing that you could say is like. Rap

16:33

and Hip Hop is a very

16:36

American. Music. Art Form. you know

16:38

what I mean and so you can. That would be

16:40

another great way to represent. Our. Country.

16:43

In a in something that is. True to us and like.

16:46

Now. Seeking. Are

16:49

culturally kids and Taylor Swift. Dow

16:52

Dow desert right? I

16:54

don't know. Maybe. Switzerland.

16:56

On a whole European tour she is a

16:59

seem very good being silly cutesy. His

17:02

heritage these legacy out. I

17:04

think she may be accidentally been silly to

17:06

see. When she's

17:08

a way that that that album he had of the

17:10

city last when I was his have it out of

17:13

the other room and walk in the room. say it

17:15

was kind of funny because of every time she'd be

17:17

saying something spooky. Like. You're

17:20

weird friend that way to convince their weird since

17:22

he just be like oh I live in a

17:24

creepy house I'm like okay to him as an

17:27

actor Bacsik all of your curses belonged to my

17:29

soul like are I'd say this or center for

17:31

supper. I

17:34

actually I will say. That.

17:38

When we were watching it we're talking about

17:40

who could because it there is a bit

17:42

of camp, there is a bit of. Spectacle.

17:46

It. Is it is that. There's

17:49

there's a European thing that has a

17:51

little bit like. Ah,

17:55

Flashy discovery. you

17:59

know you know saying like not afraid

18:01

of color and sparkle I see where you go

18:03

and see you're going with this yeah

18:05

I think there is an artist that

18:08

would represent us well that

18:10

we're talking about this week oh I know you're

18:12

gonna judge a see why oh

18:16

I thought you're gonna say super bold performance oh

18:19

well no there you go there you go judge

18:21

a see why I'm been gay pop so she'd

18:23

be perfect for this she she's

18:27

very starkly glitter

18:30

flashy don't know

18:32

I just gotta say if

18:34

no one has seen the impression they did

18:36

of her on SNL I

18:38

implore you to watch it no cuz

18:41

oh man it's good it was on weekend update hey

18:46

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21:33

it because it's something either that you will

21:36

probably introduced me to said place. But.

21:39

Now I get to. To contribute

21:41

Chapel Road and we all already. Like

21:45

very much who would do well at your

21:47

of as and I think. You're

21:50

probably right. I could see that. Is

21:53

necessary for this Good costumes. L

21:56

Yes, because you mean and there's

21:58

also like. There

22:00

are a lot of acts that are, I

22:02

don't, well I mean the winner, Nemo,

22:05

is non-binary. Barbie Thug is non-binary.

22:07

There were quite a few acts

22:09

that lean very strongly

22:12

into like LGBTQ themes and

22:14

culture. And like, I

22:17

mean, I would assume some of the

22:19

performers are also part of the community just based

22:21

on like the imagery they invoke and I don't

22:24

know. It's a very delicate way of saying,

22:26

that person looks very gay. There's

22:29

lots of like, there were like dudes in like

22:32

chaps and thongs. I don't know what you want

22:34

me to think. I mean like... It's Europe, I don't

22:36

know. Yeah, well, I'm

22:39

just saying I think this would fit in very well. I

22:43

think you're right. I also think

22:46

that her commitment to the bit and

22:48

to campiness and to everything having a

22:50

theme, that

22:53

sounds like it would work very well. Yes. All

22:56

of her shows have a theme that you're supposed to

22:58

dress according to, depending on what

23:00

show you're at. Yeah. Having

23:02

a theme, that's very gay. Kids

23:06

just have a concert. It's got to

23:08

be a themed concert. Yeah. Which I

23:10

do appreciate because as someone who always

23:12

frets so much and so deeply over

23:14

what to wear to a concert

23:16

or a music festival, that usually I end

23:18

up just putting on like jeans because it's

23:20

too much of a decision. I

23:22

do appreciate someone telling me a theme. Like

23:25

here's what you wear, here's what you

23:27

dress as. Can I make a

23:29

humble suggestion? Find

23:31

an article of clothing you like and buy it

23:33

in every color. Now,

23:36

Sydney, I know you did that with your overalls.

23:38

I did. But

23:42

concerts are like special occasions. Yeah,

23:45

you wear your dress up clothes when you

23:47

go to a concert. I have dress

23:49

up overalls. No, you don't. You don't

23:51

though. Because those don't exist.

23:56

I do. I do. I don't know. No, you don't. You

23:59

know, you know, you don't. There is no

24:01

arguing not says as. South.

24:05

Sit there that they different though the colors that

24:07

her dress. Up colors are now known as their

24:09

know where to address. I didn't as good.

24:11

As Sigma Chi know what address at

24:13

least. Black? No

24:15

No no, that's classy.

24:19

Mean if I were my leggings of my slipped

24:21

his that are black that. Has

24:24

acceptable this Jesse their classier than

24:26

blue. Sonos.

24:30

I agree with that. no. No,

24:34

that that's I mean. yes, there is

24:36

timeless appeals say a little black dress,

24:38

but I don't think you can serve

24:40

in a low power black. Overalls, Sarah

24:43

I thought I saw somebody target of our

24:45

tic tac like the nineties and they are

24:47

talking about you. He would would dress up

24:49

in your black teens. That's when. You were trying

24:51

to dress up as he would where you're black, you're formal.

24:54

Black jeans. And

24:56

I realize it. Whatever that moment

24:58

in culture was, I. Adopted

25:01

that because I have black jeans that I

25:03

were what I'm dressing and I think legs

25:05

black denim as classy black denim is what

25:07

you were when it's time to dress up

25:09

for the evening or for events. I tried

25:11

to wear them to do a presentation. And

25:13

I was like i don't think I should wear jeans.

25:17

For this, I feel like I have

25:19

to dress pants. But anyway, I mean,

25:21

I would say you can dress up

25:23

a pair of black teens a lot

25:25

easier than a pair of blue denim

25:27

jeans. But deconstruction in a pair of

25:30

overalls I think is what denies it.

25:32

It's. It's

25:34

functionality as a as Jessops

25:36

is at the top pocket.

25:39

Yeah, Who knows what

25:41

is keeping in there to be an A

25:43

girl? Me: I hate the something. Keep a

25:45

snack in there as. If. You guys you

25:48

that how the possibility of snacks like

25:50

four inches from your face and you're

25:52

not dressed up? I'm angry Gallagher? Yeah

25:54

man. I put son pins and

25:56

that top pocket. of all them they all have

25:58

a different son pin. Like

26:02

like. Not. Writing family p I

26:04

n you know, like I attach. A. Little too

26:06

or yes, yes And flair. Yeah.

26:09

This one on each one. I

26:11

think that takes it down steps from

26:13

the dressing up after. Although

26:17

you probably would fit in pretty well. It a

26:19

chapel? wrong? Yeah. But there's a

26:22

lotta overalls there are a

26:24

know what I mean or

26:26

via know and i mean

26:28

assess. The. Chapel

26:30

Road Cs. Is

26:33

a singer. She's. Your favorite

26:35

artist Several. Artists. She is your dream

26:37

girl's dream girl and you can tell

26:39

her what. You can't tell the audience

26:41

that she serving when I can't say

26:44

that word on our killer.on our podcast

26:46

but she is serving let you are

26:48

some. As you know, I mean

26:50

she's twenty six. I had to look that up

26:52

because I exclusionary curious hold to us sleep two

26:55

years. Everything. Scream at

26:57

each feals. Correct though, because there

26:59

was any younger, I believe. How

27:01

could you be that smart and

27:03

be that young? And

27:06

like just aware of yourself, like to

27:08

have full image of yourself. But.

27:10

Issues any older. I don't think she could be as

27:12

of the moment as she is like that had yeah

27:14

that feels like the right. Things

27:17

from the. Say. About people there? Yeah, inventory sent

27:19

know? I mean. It's hard to know yourself

27:21

to that to be like that fully

27:23

formed of an artist you not? Not

27:25

that there's an intelligence like it's just

27:27

like she clearly knows exactly who she

27:29

is. A that's terrifying. Is it? Not

27:31

sure. that? Yeah. I

27:34

will also like to point out

27:36

her or her first name. Her

27:39

given name is Kelly Ah spelled

27:41

with a D I G H

27:43

ah Feel it feels very You

27:45

feel connected via. The pack close

27:47

to Chef that make sense. I found

27:49

the i know she goes by Chapel

27:51

No part of her real name is

27:53

Chaperone. her name is Kelly Rose. Am

27:56

Steps. To.

27:59

see explain where her her sage

28:01

name comes from. Yeah I

28:03

wonder why she... I get I

28:06

get Chapel is more

28:08

like I don't know mysterious like

28:10

than Kaylee you know Kaylee is more like that's

28:13

a name that's like a normal name but

28:16

I wonder why she didn't go Chapel Rose. So

28:19

her sage name nods to her

28:21

late grandfather Chapel was his last

28:23

name and Rhone for his

28:25

favorite song the cowboy tune the strawberry

28:27

Rhone. Oh I love that. She

28:30

wanted to honor her Missouri roots. That's

28:33

very cool. I

28:36

found her because of TikTok. TikTok

28:38

kept showing me clips of her

28:40

performances and her songs. Yeah.

28:43

TikTok is a big fan of Chapel Rose. Yeah. She's

28:47

got a lot of good tiktokable

28:49

sound bites. Yes.

28:52

And the outfits of course go very

28:55

popular. Very hard. And

28:57

the choreography. Yes. Gen Z

28:59

loves a good good choreography

29:01

moment because it's like a tiktok dance there

29:04

for you. I you

29:07

also get to spell something so you

29:09

learn you know there's a there's an

29:11

educational element. So said hey kids spelling

29:13

is fun and

29:16

Chapel Rhone took that furiously. Oh yeah I'm

29:18

glad I ate the first time I heard

29:20

the song where you spell which is hot

29:22

to go I couldn't understand why she was

29:25

singing about hot dogs because my brain kept

29:27

thinking hot hot dog hot doggo hot no.

29:29

I did I did teach

29:52

Charlie and Cooper the hot to

29:54

go choreography which

29:56

is where you you kind of do a YMCA

29:58

moment except you spell hot to go. Raise

30:00

Your arms on. And.

30:03

After. I showed them. Charlie said. Lesnar.

30:06

A they said sorry she's it

30:09

does I spell is she saying

30:11

like Hits and T T Moon

30:13

and now I'm pretty sure that

30:15

are you there are to go

30:18

to sleep Now she's she's talking

30:20

about. Hot. Pose. For.

30:23

Not pose like now utterly. Now

30:25

it's not. This says I target.

30:27

Ah does does. Are you sure

30:29

the humphreys up pretty certainly early?

30:31

Think is I had only one

30:34

amount is what she. Thought. It

30:36

was like every see saying like says

30:38

singer brother hot oh. Yes is

30:40

like hot Has he says

30:43

or does electorally I Fridays

30:45

City Sir I'm right. I'm

30:47

gonna have to dig into

30:49

that. Was Charlie

30:51

Go Mcelroy is seizure of

30:53

something. seizures. He's right about

30:55

it though. It took some.

30:57

Whale doesn't say it says. And

31:00

we're together Ally be careful there Riley

31:02

before with are too many snow. Where

31:04

we assess, assess. I the

31:07

shower, many videos of Chapel Ron herself

31:09

through the crowd, your feet a show

31:11

like see that's that's what she spelling

31:13

it's hot to build up I believe

31:16

I did enjoy after you taught them

31:18

that he said see it sort of

31:20

like the gay why of Cia well

31:22

as. Well, mentor

31:24

and a lesbian. Wire up

31:27

thousand ride with like. Y

31:30

z I. Would. Prefer it can do. I was

31:32

a was the guess we'll see if. Yeah,

31:35

this is the lesbian y. M C I

31:37

go. To the lesbian lives he lives the a

31:39

is now the gay hot to go. Yes,

31:41

there we go. Yeah, we

31:44

all get a spelling songs sure.

31:47

Except. For the streets. The

31:49

streets don't know how to spell. Know.

31:53

If this this this does it

31:55

as us is a true correct.

31:58

That. No, no I ever

32:00

I am assuming. Be.

32:02

A in a in a as his

32:04

outfit is that the south of the

32:06

since. His thoughts has a say slit

32:09

I'm. This. Is based off I

32:11

I think. When suffice, street. That.

32:13

Who's in the winter? Funny history, but that

32:16

doesn't mean that size for the streets. Ah,

32:18

Okay, so this isn't just about. A

32:21

path is the audience is also why

32:23

I think that is on is so

32:25

goofy that the gays have claimed it

32:28

causes something is is bad or weird

32:30

or can be or strange enough that

32:32

gays will take it. Lasts.

32:34

True that that could be is a lip sync.

32:37

For your life Sagna Unruh Paul might have

32:39

been in might have been at some point

32:41

they'll cast. yeah I don't think either thought

32:43

he is is very much not gay and

32:45

there but that doesn't mean her music a

32:48

safe and the gays nobody's music is a

32:50

for the game Sonos. Ah,

32:55

Except. For. Maybe judges

32:57

he was. I respect. That

33:00

is that it's a third of like

33:03

i don't know greek tragic curse upon

33:05

her it like ah yes my child

33:07

you are gay but your music itself

33:09

only be for the streets. Hit the

33:11

I see their zigzags about like

33:13

things that are made. By.

33:16

Gave people for the street people. I buy games of

33:18

gay people by three people were the gay people that

33:20

have you. Seen Yeah, Yeah, yeah. okay.

33:22

I saw I heard a T Today audio of

33:25

to to See What Does. Last. Night

33:27

of her saying like on the

33:29

first artist ever do a transition

33:31

like this and to ever have

33:33

a transformation like this in the

33:35

public eye on the first one

33:38

and it's scary to be the

33:40

first one I wouldn't I wouldn't

33:42

talk to whoever on her team

33:44

is like yet You can say

33:46

that they're journalists Ross Lake. People.

33:49

Artist stole for the most part

33:51

nowadays especially simulator just the one

33:53

who has had like adults directing

33:56

her career her whole life. This

33:58

stuff isn't decided so. They're

34:00

not unilaterally deciding on

34:04

the way they're going to promote something or

34:06

package something or whatever. They've got a

34:09

whole team of people advising them typically.

34:12

That's what's baffling about JoJo Siwa. Unless

34:14

it was a conscious decision to have

34:17

her market in a very controversial, like,

34:20

what the eff are you talking about JoJo kind of

34:22

way because then everyone will be talking about it and

34:24

listening to it. I mean, I do

34:26

kind of feel like the forces

34:28

behind her are so corporate that

34:30

this is some sort of like

34:33

Taylor Swift Inception speed run because that's

34:35

what kind of happened organically with Taylor

34:37

Swift, right? She's very talented. People

34:40

were very hard on her. And

34:42

then there's a lot of people that kind of came around

34:44

to her side, not just because she's very talented, but also

34:46

because, hey, the world was really unfair to you. Like, there's

34:48

a lot of cruelty thrown your way. Like,

34:51

JoJo Siwa, we're going to change your image. It's going to be

34:53

really cringe and people are going to make fun of you. And

34:55

then a lot of people are going to feel bad about it.

34:58

And then you're going to have success. We're going to cringe

35:01

is very popular. That gets things reposted. So

35:03

that'll get you out there. And

35:05

this is going to ultimately make

35:07

the algorithm work in your favor. Like

35:10

I think it's a mastermind thing going on. That

35:13

would make sense because it is weird that

35:16

she reinvented her look to look like Kiss,

35:18

but has not said, I wanted to look

35:20

like Kiss when she very clearly

35:22

looks like Kiss. And

35:24

also, she didn't reinvent

35:26

her look by saying, like, I'm going to

35:30

write some new music or like design a

35:32

new look that feels more me. She

35:34

just like bought songs from other people

35:36

that other people had written. Like,

35:39

this is me now. But

35:41

I know lots of artists buy songs from other

35:43

artists. I know that's like a very common thing.

35:46

But usually they're not claiming they wrote them after

35:48

they buy them. True. I do

35:50

feel bad for her. I don't see it's working. Yeah, I mean,

35:52

it's true. I mean, I'm not going to listen to her music

35:54

because I don't enjoy it. But I do feel bad for her.

35:57

She's making so much money. So

36:02

there's that. Chapel Rhone is happening

36:04

for Olivia Rodrigo, right? She

36:08

was for the first part of the tour. Which

36:11

I'm very sad about because I'm seeing Olivia Rodrigo

36:13

in July and Chapel Rhone is

36:15

no longer opening for her. She's very sad.

36:20

But yeah, she was opening for Olivia Rodrigo.

36:22

I actually, I might

36:24

be wrong on this and I'm sure someone will tell me

36:26

if I'm wrong. I

36:29

knew who Chapel Rhone was a while

36:31

ago because I had a friend who introduced me to her about

36:34

this time last year. And

36:36

she was popular but nowhere near as popular as

36:38

she is now. And I really feel like it

36:40

was TikTok that exploded

36:43

her popularity. I really feel

36:46

like it was TikTok sounds of like short

36:48

snippets of her songs, of her

36:50

shows, of her costumes. By

36:52

the time she was opening for Olivia Rodrigo, there were a

36:54

lot of people going to see the show

36:56

that were like, I'm here also

36:58

for Chapel Rhone. I

37:02

mean, for me, I definitely heard of her

37:04

from TikTok. Like that was definitely, which

37:06

I don't know, like was

37:09

it just the, she

37:11

benefited from the fact that the algorithm

37:13

goes like, you seem gay here. It

37:16

does do that. Yeah. It

37:19

does do that a lot. The algorithm is very

37:21

good at picking up on queer culture and

37:24

pushing the right things to you. I'm

37:29

curious what you got fed, Sid,

37:31

because I know my interest in

37:33

Chapel Rhone started when I was

37:35

getting Nana videos set

37:37

to Good Luck Babe. Nana

37:39

is a lesbian,

37:43

but not really anime that came out in the 90s.

37:46

About two girls that lived together and are roommates

37:48

and are best friends and love each other. But

37:51

of course, one ends up married to a man and

37:53

the other one, I don't know. Anyway,

37:55

you will say they were roommates. Yes.

37:58

Yes. innocuous statements in

38:01

the manga and the anime like, oh, if

38:03

you were a man, I would love you

38:05

forever. And you're the person I love

38:07

the most in the world more than any man. But

38:09

then it's like, no, it's definitely not gay. It's super

38:11

gay. I kept getting a lot of edits to that

38:13

song, because I like anime.

38:15

And so that's how it came across

38:17

my For You page. It

38:20

started with the tiny

38:22

desk that she

38:24

did. I love that tiny desk. That

38:27

is what I first got surfaced. And

38:29

I was like, I

38:31

thought, I mean, when I first looked, I

38:33

was like, oh, it's like a drag performance. Yeah.

38:36

Dress, like her makeup and everything. It was like

38:38

drag. And I didn't know

38:40

who she was. And I was like, this is really

38:42

good. And because I watched it, then I started getting

38:44

clips of her from, I'm assuming, Olivia Rodrigo's

38:47

tour, like her onstage performing different

38:49

places. And

38:52

then I was like, maybe I should

38:54

look this person up, because this seems really

38:56

good. Yeah. I

39:00

also know that TikTok

39:02

likes a sound that can be used in

39:04

a trend, where you can use the sound

39:06

to make, I don't want to say

39:08

memes about it, but you know what I mean? Change

39:10

the caption or change the video. And then

39:12

it blows up, because everyone wants to make one

39:14

and find them relatable or whatever. The

39:17

song Casual off of this album was

39:20

a trend like that. Oh, was

39:22

it? Where it was changing out like, this

39:24

happened. Is it casual now? The

39:27

ones that I kept getting initially were

39:31

Red Wine Supernova, a ton of

39:33

that. And then- It's very

39:35

popular. Because

39:38

I kept getting

39:40

the California King, really,

39:43

it's a twin bed. It's a twin bed. My twin

39:46

bed. Yeah, we're cool. I heard you like magic.

39:48

I got a wand and a rabbit. That's a great line. A

39:50

great line. And I'm like, I'm not a fan of magic. I'm a fan

39:53

of magic. I'm a fan of magic. I'm a fan of

39:55

magic. It's a great line. And

39:57

there's a lot of discourse about that song.

40:00

specifically online because a lot of, well,

40:02

a lot of Karens were

40:04

like, why are, why is my

40:06

teenager listening to this? This is so inappropriate.

40:09

And so many people, mostly

40:11

like queer women on TikTok

40:13

were like, hey, men

40:16

have been singing about much worse stuff for

40:18

a very long time about women. And you

40:20

have a problem with it because it's a

40:22

woman singing about being with other women. They

40:25

have. And I wondered about that. I

40:27

saw some like controversy

40:29

about people getting upset at

40:32

the Olivia Rodrigo concert. Yeah. Because

40:35

there are a lot of young girls there seeing Olivia Rodrigo,

40:37

which like, have, has anyone

40:39

been listening to Olivia Rodrigo? Are

40:41

you listening to her performances that

40:43

are very like, you know, suggestive?

40:46

Well, I mean, she's got plenty of lyrics that are, that

40:49

are very suggestive. And I mean, sometimes I

40:51

hear your kids singing along too. And I'm

40:53

like, whoa, I know. I know. So

40:55

like, I don't know. I don't know what you're saying.

40:57

No, I mean, like, so I don't think it's any

41:00

less suggestive. I think my, my

41:02

take on Olivia Rodrigo songs, and maybe

41:04

this is heteronormative culture, I think they're

41:07

usually about men. Well,

41:09

yeah, I, yeah, I mean, I'm, I

41:12

don't want to, I never want to assume, but like

41:14

several of them are, have like male,

41:16

male pronouns. Yes, they had. So like, they seem

41:18

to be about men. And

41:21

so my assumption is your problem, parents,

41:23

isn't that their suggestive songs,

41:26

your problem is their suggestive, suggestive songs about

41:28

women. Yeah. That's

41:30

100% what it is. No, I,

41:34

uh, Charlie and Cooper love feminine,

41:36

phenomenon. They sing that

41:38

and Hot To Go a lot. They're

41:41

just so, they're such good earworms,

41:43

but not in the way where it's like,

41:45

you're annoyed that it's stuck in your head.

41:47

Like, ah, I heard that song once and

41:49

I can't get it out of my head

41:51

that way. It's like, I just want to keep

41:53

listening to it. There's something about it that just like

41:55

scratches the right part of my brain that I just

41:57

want to start it over as soon as it finishes.

42:00

Yeah, I mean it's a lot

42:02

of, you know, part of it

42:04

is that it's confrontationally queer. I think

42:06

that's really powerful. I think it's

42:08

not, it's not the like, ooh,

42:11

like, you know, maybe this could

42:13

be about a guy, but maybe it could be

42:15

about a girl. It's like the terminology she's using.

42:17

It's like, no, this is definitely a,

42:19

you know, two ladies situation going on here.

42:22

Yeah, that you mean to describe you. Which

42:24

seems powerful, which seems very refreshing. It's

42:27

not framed as like something devious

42:29

or something you need to hide, but all it's

42:31

just in general is very powerful music. Like, yeah,

42:33

I think that's what's so shocking. It's just, it's,

42:36

it's feminine, but

42:39

it's just so powerful. Yeah,

42:42

it is. And it's, it's feminine and

42:44

powerful in a way that I, I

42:47

would say, I mean, nothing

42:49

is completely new. Everything is sort

42:51

of building on the shoulders of what came before it. Right.

42:54

So I don't want to say like it's brand

42:56

new. But I do think it's a, it's representing

42:58

the next sort of evolution and feminine power, which

43:00

has been like, I would think,

43:03

I would say it's been a struggle in recent

43:05

years to figure out what direction to go with

43:08

that. Like we kind of all

43:10

got sidetracked with this girl boss era, right?

43:13

You know, where feminine power was this

43:15

very white

43:19

woman thing. You know what I mean? It was just

43:21

this one thing and it had to do with like

43:24

suits, I think, pantsuits or

43:27

something, but like, and then

43:29

maybe starting an MLM, but like there was this, there

43:31

was this one like direction you could go. And

43:34

I, I see us moving in maybe a

43:37

positive direction where we can say like

43:41

feminine power can look feminine,

43:43

but it doesn't have to. Like you

43:45

don't have to wear lipstick and heels

43:48

to have feminine power, but you can.

43:51

It can also be confrontational and strong, but that

43:53

doesn't have to be in a way that is

43:55

masculine for it to count. You know, I mean,

43:57

that's a, it's a hard needle to thread. I

44:00

feel like. Yeah. I

44:03

also appreciate, I think we

44:05

joke about Chirjosila being gay pop. I

44:07

think the difference in why people seem

44:09

to genuinely appreciate

44:13

Chappel Rhone more as an

44:15

artist than like what she's saying is

44:17

because she doesn't say, I created

44:20

gay pop. I am the first queer

44:23

woman to ever sing about being a queer

44:25

woman. But I think she acknowledges that like

44:27

we're finally at a point in society where

44:30

maybe you can more openly and confidently and

44:32

almost like in a risque way sing about

44:34

being a woman with other women and

44:37

it be popular in music. Yeah. Like

44:39

you don't have to be a woman who's singing about being with other women but

44:41

you have to do it in a way that's like subtle

44:44

and sneaky for it to be on the radio.

44:46

Like now you can sing about it openly and

44:48

powerfully and it's okay and

44:50

it's popular. Well. Yeah.

44:53

I mean so much of like the media depiction of specifically

44:56

lesbians, it's either for male

44:58

consumption and then it can

45:00

be feminine but it's got to be tailored to

45:02

the male gaze. Right. Or

45:04

you have to divest yourself of femininity

45:07

and that's a very

45:10

different kind of like this is what a lesbian is

45:12

and this is, it's almost like a

45:14

defense mechanism. It's like I don't want

45:16

to be objectified by male gaze so

45:19

this is the way that I can perform.

45:21

Yeah. Myself as a woman and

45:23

it feels, I think that's what it's like this

45:27

is for the girls and the gays. Like

45:29

that is who she is for. That

45:32

is who it is for the female

45:34

gaze and it's so, that's

45:37

a double entendre for the female

45:40

gaze, the female gaze. Yeah.

45:43

But it's rare we get something like that pushed

45:45

forward and I think that's what feels so new

45:47

about it is that that element

45:49

of it feels confrontational. It's like it's,

45:52

you can look boys but this isn't for

45:54

you and that's a rare thing. Yeah.

45:58

I agree. I think, I think I think

46:01

it's cool to see like

46:04

I said when I first saw her, I thought it was a

46:06

drag performance at first, which she does. I mean, I

46:08

guess it is in a way. I

46:10

know, it is. I'm just a drag performance. And

46:12

I think it's cool to see that that

46:16

really combines,

46:19

drag is like this performance of femininity

46:21

that is also, it kind

46:24

of celebrates even though that's not necessarily

46:26

what it's intending to, like it does,

46:28

right? It kind of celebrates feminine stuff

46:31

in a way. And it's cool to see like drag

46:34

culture and then a cis

46:36

woman coming together to say like let's do

46:38

this, we're on the same team. Let's celebrate

46:41

femininity in a positive good way together. There's

46:43

been conflict there before and I think it's

46:45

cool to see those sorts

46:47

of groups uniting and

46:50

like hey, let's do this all together. It can be

46:52

cool to be a feminine person.

46:54

Being feminine can be cool in

46:57

its own way. It

46:59

reminds me a lot of Renee Rapp

47:02

except like sparkly.

47:06

Like they feel very similar to me in

47:08

what they're trying to do for younger women.

47:12

Although you know, I'm just

47:14

now thinking about this, the fact that child grown is 26 and Renee

47:17

Rapp is my age, she's 23. What's

47:19

that slight difference I think between Gen

47:22

Z, like very Gen Z culture and

47:25

slightly older than Gen Z but right on the

47:27

brink of Gen Z culture where it's

47:29

like trying really, really hard

47:32

to not be status

47:36

quo like Gen Z, you know what I

47:38

mean? Trying really, really hard to be like

47:40

Renee Rapp like saying controversial things like I

47:42

hate old people and I am ageist or

47:45

like being slightly older, being chaperoned and being

47:47

like hey, it actually doesn't really matter, I don't really

47:50

care that much, let's party. I

47:54

also think it's tough and

47:58

maybe this is the evolution, maybe this is the track

48:00

that Renee raps on, it

48:04

is hard if you have grown up, and

48:07

I'm much older than both of them, like

48:09

I have cast off a lot

48:12

of femininity in part because

48:14

it didn't connect with me, but

48:16

also because I want

48:18

to be seen as strong and powerful in

48:20

the circles in which I walk. And

48:23

because of where I live and what I

48:25

do, that often means being

48:29

as masculine as possible. That's

48:31

how power is demonstrated, right, in ways

48:33

that are masculine. And it's interesting, it

48:35

has made me think about like, did

48:39

I throw off all of that? Do I

48:41

really hate all that is feminine? Not hate,

48:43

but you know what I mean, for me.

48:45

Do I really feel disconnected from all that

48:47

is feminine because I do or

48:49

because I felt like I had to? I mean,

48:51

like watching her perform and listening to her music

48:53

has made me question that myself and think like,

48:56

you know, maybe I could take a little bit

48:58

of that back. Maybe I

49:00

could wear makeup a little more because sometimes

49:02

I do. Maybe I could take five extra

49:04

minutes with my hair and

49:06

that doesn't devalue me in my

49:09

power. I know these sound like

49:11

dumb things, but I really I think that yeah, I

49:13

mean, in a very minuscule way, it's like how I

49:15

used to say like, Oh, I hate pink, pink is

49:17

my least favorite color because I really

49:19

did. But because it was the girly color and

49:21

I didn't want to be seen as girly. And

49:23

now I'm an adult woman who's like, actually, everything

49:25

in my apartment is going to be pink because

49:27

I've accepted that I don't hate it. I just

49:29

thought I had to. Yes. Well,

49:33

I think, you know, it's funny because as

49:36

you were saying that said, I think of how many times

49:38

you have sort of, I think

49:40

implied your worth in like statements of

49:42

like, I didn't even wash my face

49:45

today or like I just pulled my

49:47

hair into a ponytail. It's like you're

49:49

trying to establish like, take me seriously.

49:52

I work very hard. Look at how little I

49:54

take care of myself. And

49:59

I that is always. is something that I think women

50:01

have to do to be

50:03

taken seriously, is divest themselves from sort

50:05

of anything that

50:07

feels too froofy. I mean men have to

50:09

do it too, right? Like anything that's too

50:11

close to personal care, if

50:14

you're a woman, you don't get taken seriously. If you're a man,

50:16

it's gay. But I

50:18

think that there's, you know, something really

50:21

important about being in touch with both

50:23

sides of yourselves, the practical side and

50:25

the side that can be a little

50:27

bit softer. And we separate these things

50:29

culturally into masculine and feminine, but

50:32

you need both. You

50:34

should feel like you could have both and

50:36

any selection within that you want. No,

50:40

it's true. And it really like watching her performances

50:42

and listening to her music has made me kind

50:44

of think about that. Like, did

50:47

I really get rid of all that stuff?

50:49

Not physically, but just like the

50:51

what I think about and value. Did I really get

50:53

rid of it all because it's not me or did

50:55

I get rid of it because I was trying to

50:58

prove that I was strong and serious and

51:00

worth listening to the people around me.

51:02

And I thought, our culture

51:05

thinks masculinity equals strong,

51:07

serious, worth listening to.

51:11

And so I'm just trying to perform that. Right.

51:14

But also devoid of emotion. Yes.

51:17

And it's rough, you know, doesn't

51:19

care about smelly nice or being

51:22

pretty. And I think most people want

51:24

to smell nice and look pretty. I

51:26

would say that's a population.

51:29

But I think that kind of goes

51:31

back to the drag comparison because drag,

51:34

yes, in a lot of ways it's about

51:36

performing femininity, but it's not just femininity. It

51:38

can be masculinity. I mean, drag kings have

51:40

existed. Sure. It's

51:44

about performance itself. It's

51:47

allowing yourself to be the

51:49

youest you inside of your head in

51:52

the most refined, fascinating

51:54

way. And I think we all have

51:56

the desire to do that. And I think that's what really

51:58

shocked me about her is like. She's

52:00

26 and she's doing that. She

52:03

is the most her-her. And

52:05

I think that's what's so, when you can't look

52:07

away, it's terrifying to

52:09

see somebody that's that aware of who

52:11

they are and strutting

52:14

their stuff to that degree. Like there's nothing performative

52:16

about it as much of a performance as it

52:18

is. Yeah. It's

52:21

exciting to see what she's gonna do next. I'm

52:23

very excited. The album is great. I've

52:25

listened to it repeatedly. Me too. And

52:29

good luck, babe. Yeah. Because that technically

52:31

is not on the album it came out after. Oh, that's

52:33

right. That's good. I think you like that. Yeah.

52:36

Yeah. Thank you

52:38

all for listening to Chapel Run. I know we

52:41

all already had. Yeah. Thank you

52:43

for listening. Great. More. And

52:45

talking about it with me. And she officially is my

52:47

pick for America's entry in Eurovision. What?

52:50

It's Port D'etre. Riley, what's your favorite song so

52:52

far? I know it's one of

52:55

the most popular ones, but Red Wine Supernova, I

52:57

just can't stop listening to. I just

52:59

love that song. It's a good song. What

53:01

about you all? I really like Casual. Yeah.

53:05

Yeah. Yeah. My favorite

53:07

thing about Casual, my favorite song is, I mean right

53:09

now it's probably Good Luck Babe because I think that's...

53:12

If you've been out queer for a

53:14

long period of time and have had the relationship

53:16

with like, you're not gay, or you're not straight,

53:19

but you don't know that yet. And I just

53:21

gotta walk away. Like I like that. Yeah. That

53:23

there's an anthem for those of us that have been there. Yeah.

53:26

But I like the casual from a

53:28

lesbian perspective. It's like, no, this is

53:30

the casual lesbian relationship. Yeah. You

53:32

do get that. I can answer your question. Yeah, it is.

53:35

Yeah, it is. It is. Yeah.

53:40

It's a good song though. Well,

53:43

thank you all. And that's

53:46

it. What's next? So

53:49

you may have seen the previews

53:51

for Twisters that is coming

53:53

out. So I thought we could go back and watch Twister

53:55

because that was an important movie to me, as a young

53:57

woman. Twister Singular. Twister Singular.

54:00

Yeah. Alright. Please

54:02

watch Twister. I've never actually

54:04

seen it. Wow.

54:06

Yeah. So good. I'm

54:09

excited for you to watch it. We'll talk about it. Well,

54:11

thank you, Riley. It was fun to talk. I mean,

54:13

I know we had already listened to Chappellor, but it was fun to talk about

54:15

it, and we'll do it again. Yeah. Thank

54:18

you, listeners. You can go to maximfun.org and check out a lot of great shows

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54:40

am you. It's pretty tough. Nice. It

54:43

is. It's a good idea. I'm excited.

54:46

Yeah. It's a lot of fun. I'm

54:48

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54:51

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54:54

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54:56

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54:58

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