Jeff Clark of Live Oak Bank joins Brian and Colton to discuss the financial distress in our beloved industry and how banks like Live Oak play a role.  Jeff's optimism is welcome and a bit out of the norm for our humble show. Jeff's opinions are all his own and do not reflect those of Live Oak Bank unless explicitly stated.  Brian and Colton's opinions are not very interesting and wholly reflect those of the StillTalking Podcast.  Amongst the booze and banking banter, Brian throws in some serious dad talk and Colton suggest packaging innovations for prime members.  Zeno was busy pretending to make alcohol for a collaboration with Colton. 

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