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Hello everyone, Kirk here, still working away
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on Strong Song Season 6, and as
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episode about the Peter Gabriel song In
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For now though, to tide
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you over for another two
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weeks, one more bonus episode.
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As you know, I've been dropping bonus episodes into
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the main feed that had previously been Patreon
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exclusive. That's what this is. And
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while I've changed the intro a bit, you might hear
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some stuff in the episode that makes it sound like
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it's from a bonus feed that would maybe make more
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sense if it were a Patreon bonus episode. So bear
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that in mind. Anyways, this bonus episode was a follow
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on to an episode I made in 2022, Strong Covers
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Volume 2, in which I focused on a
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handful of covers of famous Beatles songs. Those
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were the Earth, Wind & Fire cover of
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Paul McCartney's Gotta Get You Into My Life,
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the Ray Charles cover of Eleanor
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Rigby, also mostly by McCartney, and
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the Bobby McFerrin solo vocal cover
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of Blackbird. So that was a really fun
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episode. I was very proud of it. It
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really kind of came together. These cover episodes
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are really fun for a reason that I've
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articulated many times, but talking about a cover
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really does give a kind of a
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cool angle in on the original. So
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the thing is, when you're making a
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cover episode, there are so many covers,
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especially of Beatles songs. I had this
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huge lists. I mean I was planning to
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even talk about some alternate covers as I
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was making the episode. No one of the
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seventy cut them because it just wasn't feeling
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focused and I only had so much time.
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But of course they're a million interesting Beatles
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covers out there. And then I realize I
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have as bonus feed and that's kind of
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custom made. Its or tailor made for this
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kind of thing for sharing little extra stuff
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that didn't quite make it into the episode
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but I still think is interesting. So on
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this bonus I said I'm just gonna go
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through a few cover his of each of
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the three songs that. I talked about gotta
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get too into my life, Eleanor Rigby and
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Blackbird and just play a few of the
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other covers. Some of which I considered for
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the episode in a couple of was actually
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were linked. I'm a strong sons discord by
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discord users and are and are really cool
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and I just kind of wanted to share
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and maybe plan a couple things about each
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one and since they're all interesting and different
2:49
in their own when. I
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was alone. I did the right. I didn't
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know an island. Or
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not in a cover Wanted to talk about
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his of gotta Get into My Life It
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actually came out in Nineteen Sixty Six in
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the Uk. It was performed by Cliffs Bennett
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in The Rabble Rousers and did pretty well.
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It started in the Uk and this record
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was actually produced by Paul Mccartney, so kind
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of has the stamp of approval in it's
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very similar to the Beatles versus. A
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lot of. Our.
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Seventy a lot smoother close. Senate has a
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kind of more crooner he cannot some zone
3:30
five Simple Mccartney does have really come through
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in the pre chorus. What's
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interesting about this arrangement to me is that
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because Mccartney produce this, it's basically the same
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arrangement. I'm not going to going to the
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particulars because I'm assuming that as we listen
3:53
to this listened to the mean episode about
3:56
these about the science but me Original: Did
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you know the horns or kind of. The
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trumpets hold the node and the saxophones
4:02
do that descending chromatic thing during the
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pre chorus, the exact same thing on
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the Cliff Senate version. When they hit
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the chorus, they do. It's just the
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same as Mccartney doesn't. He
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knows. same performance, same horn part up up
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up up up bars, same a horn or
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use mean exactly so in the any winds
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up being this kind of interesting. Alternate.
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Reality version of the original where the singer
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is just kind of a slicker, more flamboyant
4:38
vocalist and there's a cut you know there's
4:40
more going on the drummer as mixing it
4:42
up more. The piano player is Plane is
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blues. He fills so has a little bit
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more of a mainstream vibe. It may be
4:48
like sort of the character of the Beatles
4:50
version, but it's still a great performance and
4:52
a good arrangement because it's basically the original
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arrangements. I think that's a kind of an
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interesting oddity that the same year as the
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original came out, this other version was also
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released and did quite well for it. So.
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When I'm with you on us. Actually
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really like Cliff Bennett singing. I never really listened
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to him before, but I love that tennis saucier
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style of of singing and kind of works for
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the song. and as a bit of a bit
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of pomp and circumstance of a whole thing, it's
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a lot of fun. worth checking out. So there's
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another cover of Gotta Get Into My Life by
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one of the other notable horn bands of the
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Nineteen seventies. This on with also shared in the
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Strong Sons discord by Gospel of Hammond a gospel
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of Him and Anna. It's a really cool arrangement
5:34
that does some very interesting for. Me
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of course about blood, sweat and tears. Their
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Nineteen Seventy Five version of the song lead
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lead singer David Clayton Thomas put isn't step
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on it for sure. You're
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not a really dramatic reinterpretation. It's different than
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Earth Wind Fire's but it's got a ton
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of new ideas, the mix, and really major
6:13
changes. The whole thing is built around this
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guitar riff that honestly reminds me of Elliott
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Rambles guitar riff from Real and in the
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years which Steely Dan recorded a couple of
6:22
years earlier so could have you Can Dance
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and influence on the Second Harper. Really kind
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of puts that in my mind and has
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that kind of a twelve a prude, but
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it's very different. Kind of Twelve Acres. Of
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I was kind of a cool parallel so generally
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just a more kind of rock and arrangement with
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a much more guitar forward sort of a thing.
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The horns are still doing a lot of cool
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stuff and then there's this huge change on the
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pre chorus. Funny
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when I was thinking about the Earth, Wind
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and Fire version, I mention that they kept
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the Court Ferguson pretty much the same. They
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do that minor to minor major seventh and
7:20
minor seventh a six thing with the chromatic
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reading tone, that palm of her knee and
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so fond of blood, sweat and tears totally
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changes this of their in the key of
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ass and they do this thing it's like
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to their plan and F major and then
7:32
for the prefer as they basically go up
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to see major over D that is the
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pedal and the base a C Major ever
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deeds and be flat over D C Major
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of or Dm in D. Minor. Just
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super different. many
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chains of this part going into the course as
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well they do this climb up like a scalar
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climb up into the chorus where the original
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actually walks down, listen to what the bass does
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at the very end of the phrase leading into
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the chorus on the original. Right
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here. So
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just this nice, tidy walk down from C. Really
8:20
straightforward, but it walks down. Now listen to
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what Blood, Sweat, and Tears does. They
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go in the opposite direction, so we're in F now.
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They start on 2, and they do this nice, kind
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of gospel style 2 walk up from 2 to 3
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to 4 to 5 to 1, which is just a
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totally different energy. I
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mean, they take it in literally the opposite direction,
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but it still totally works. They
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do their own thing on the chorus, too. This
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is a great arrangement. Honestly, there's a lot to
9:07
be learned from this arrangement. I could have done
9:09
a sort of battling arrangement comparison between
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this cover and the Earth, Wind, and Fire
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cover, because they're both really great full band
9:16
arrangements, really cool reinterpretations of the song. In
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the end, I went with Earth, Wind, and Fire, partly because, as
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I mentioned on that episode, for a while I actually thought it
9:23
was an Earth, Wind, and Fire song, and I'll always associate it
9:25
with them. But I really like
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what Blood, Sweat, and Tears does as well, and
9:29
I just like, they're these sort of dueling horn
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bands of the 70s. They have similar names, Earth,
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Wind, and Fire, Blood, Sweat, and Tears. Three
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things. We talked about the Rule of Threes
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on a recent Q&A. That applies to band
9:40
names as well. Anyway, it's a great arrangement.
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I don't know if it's Ron McClure, this
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is the bass player for Blood, Sweat, and
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Tears, Ron McClure, a great, great bass player.
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If he's the one who came up with
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these different bass lines, but the bass really
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changes things, they also do this kind of
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walking gospel style bass line on the way
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out that really changes the energy, it turns
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into this kind of... like everybody in the
10:00
church is on their feet while the Reverend
10:02
testifies kind of thing. It's
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a great cover, very inventive and high energy performance.
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And don't worry Blood, Sweat and Tears will get
10:20
their day on strong songs at some point here.
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There's a bunch of songs of theirs that I
10:24
could talk about and they are one of my
10:26
favorite bands of all time. So definitely check that
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one out. So next up is Eleanor
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Rigby. Eleanor Rigby, a beautiful song that really lends
10:33
itself to being covered. There are a bunch of
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great covers of this song. There are a few
10:37
in particular that I wanted to shout
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out. The first one is kind of interesting.
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It's by the great Queen of Soul herself,
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Aretha Franklin, and it's probably the most stripped
10:45
down cover of any of these songs that
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I heard. So
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here's the thing about Aretha's cover of Eleanor
11:06
Rigby. It keeps the lyrics and that's pretty
11:08
much it. She does the whole thing as
11:10
a blues jam. So if you remember the
11:12
original goes back and forth between E minor
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and C major. It's basically in E minor
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and then it drops to the flat six
11:18
major every so often and it's kind of
11:20
just a two chord song. Aretha
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also does it as a two chord song but she
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changes it. She's doing it in the key of D
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and she basically just does it almost like a D
11:29
blues. It's just like a D7 chord and then she
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goes to the four chord instead of the flat six
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which Just totally changes the sound of the
11:36
song and strips away a lot of the
11:38
harmonic identity that it had to begin with,
11:40
and yet it still kind of works. I
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Mean it's almost not Eleanor Rigby anymore. I
11:45
don't know where that line is or how
11:47
that exists. I mean it's the same form.
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She's singing the same lyrics. I Actually really
11:51
like that she sings I'm Eleanor Rigby just
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because it's a sort of interesting interpretation to
11:56
sing as Eleanor Rigby rather than as someone
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who's. Than that,
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it's such a laid back Sam. They've changed
12:02
the harmony so much that I think it
12:05
actually is an interesting example of how far
12:07
you can go from the original while keeping
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the lyrics from the form you know, making
12:11
of identifiable. as he knew Eleanor Rigby and
12:13
you heard this, he was still identify it
12:16
as Eleanor Rigby. It's just very very different
12:18
about a stripped down and different as a
12:20
cover can be. The
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next cover of Eleanor Rigby as a pretty
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recent one from since last fall, and it's
12:36
also a Grammy nominated arrangement. It's really, really
12:38
cool by the musician Cody Fry. Now I
12:41
know Thirty Fry because he's a featured artists
12:43
on a couple of Corey Wong records the
12:45
Funk guitarist so we thought of them as
12:47
this keyboard playing singer, but he's a great
12:50
musician, a great writer, and a great orchestrator
12:52
as he sort of showed off in the
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series he did of Eleanor Rigby last fall.
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Whole thing was recorded kind of separately. This
13:08
is a pandemic your recording with a full
13:10
orchestra with he wrote for the sound really
13:13
gun. As
13:16
well as four hundred vocalist. Among
13:26
other things, the series we've
13:28
really modulates between huge sounds
13:30
and very small intimate one
13:32
on the. Rise
13:34
in the to to do. Is.
13:45
Say. about
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it does a great cover it's very impressive
13:49
in that way the things tend to be
13:51
impressive money a four hundred vocalist recording separately
13:53
and get a full orchestra plagues but it's
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also very intimate in it it's a very
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thoughtful i think and a lot of ways
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And also on the second verse, he
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uses a typewriter to illustrate Father Mackenzie writing
14:04
the words to the sermon that no one
14:06
will hear. Very much an area
14:08
of interest for me. I recently talked about typewriters
14:10
in music, of course, on a recent Q&A. Listers
14:13
in the Discord have actually been sharing
14:15
lots of recordings of other typewriter songs.
14:18
I've been sort of amassing a list of them. I
14:20
might talk about them all in the future. Bonus episode.
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It's a lovely sound I really like the way they
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do that second verse. Anyway
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just a lush, beautiful, very inventive cover of this
14:46
song. I really do recommend checking it out. And
14:49
there's actually a video that I'm going to link
14:51
in the show notes. He does a sort of
14:53
score walkthrough of the song. He pages along in
14:55
the musical score along with the arrangement and sort
14:57
of highlights different things as they happen, which is
14:59
a really nice way to listen to it as
15:01
well since he can give you some insight into
15:04
his thoughts as he was writing this arrangement. It
15:06
goes all sorts of places. It's a really beautiful
15:08
cover by Cody Fry. So yeah, check that one
15:10
out for sure. The
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next cover I wanted to talk
15:32
about really quick was shared by
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Discord users Vazda. And it's really beautiful.
15:36
It's by Joshua Bell, the great violinist
15:38
Joshua Bell and pianist vocalist Frankie
15:40
Moreno, who is not someone
15:43
I was familiar with. But this is
15:45
a really cool arrangement. It's very loose.
15:47
It starts out especially really loose. It's
15:49
kind of rubato, almost improvised instrumental section.
16:13
It's really nice in one of the things that
16:15
gets more rewarding the more familiar you are with
16:17
the song. you can kind of hear what they're
16:19
doing with that, but halfway through Marina sings through
16:21
which is nice as one really let's just to
16:24
a bell, just do his thing as an accompanist.
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Would do they are come.
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O the along. With
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do ah below. Reading
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words are the sermon that no
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one was. No.
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One comes near look at him word god
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just well as so good I can't even
16:49
imagine playing. knows that Hi Sat in tune
16:51
that's that's really a skill sets just of
16:53
really fun listen mostly just for what Joshua
16:56
Bell is capable of and the way that
16:58
they play together. the really both musicians are
17:00
bringing a lot to the performance of and
17:02
then of course Spell gets to take it
17:05
out with a little. couldn't hurt the and
17:07
really. Boost
17:28
Their. It's just. there's nothing quite like
17:30
a violin playing perfectly in tune. So
17:32
absolutely hi. It's one of the highest
17:34
pitches that show here. maybe the highest
17:36
pets The So here on an instrument.
17:38
it's almost ultrasonic. And what a beautiful
17:40
sound. Good God South of our men
17:42
and Indiana University grads people. I talk
17:44
about him in Bloomington, Indiana where I
17:46
grew up. Other people's music school would
17:48
speak of whom with quite a bit
17:50
of pride. Justifiable pride Because man, he's
17:52
pretty good a violin. So the last
17:54
cover of Eleanor Rigby that I want
17:56
to point out is. pretty much the
17:58
polar opposite and it's one I did think about
18:00
talking about it. It's one that I was aware of
18:03
and a few people wrote in about it as well.
18:05
And then of course is the 1970 cover by the
18:07
Australian rock band Zoot. So
18:25
this is definitely another example of taking this song
18:27
in a new direction. So
18:39
this is a total harmonic reimagining of this song.
18:42
They're kind of in between keys here. I feel
18:44
like this recording is probably sped up or slowed
18:46
down. I'll just kind of play it in E
18:48
flat since it's kind of E flat minor is
18:51
where it sort of sits on the piano but
18:53
they're probably in either D or E and then
18:55
the tape got retuned for the master. But I'm
18:57
playing this in E flat just because that'll kind
19:00
of match it. They're doing this thing where it's
19:02
like starts on one and kind of one minor
19:04
then they do this riff that's like flat three
19:06
to four to flat three then they actually do
19:09
go to the flat six and they walk
19:11
up the flat six major scale which I
19:13
really dig and then they land back on
19:15
one. So it's a way more involved way
19:17
more riffy way to sort of undergird the
19:19
vocal chorus. It works. It's super different, but
19:21
it's pretty hip. I'll
19:33
never hear an overdriven guitar playing a major scale
19:35
just straight up in a guitar riff like that.
19:39
Without thinking of Queen. It was kind of
19:42
a lot later. It was eight years later
19:44
on Bicycle Race, one of my favorite Queen
19:46
songs. Brian May does a very similar kind
19:48
of a riff. I don't know if he
19:51
was inspired by this, but it's certainly some
19:53
very strategic Brian May deployment. Anyway,
20:05
just like to shout out these little similarities, these
20:07
little echoes whenever I hear them. I do like
20:09
this zoot arrangement, it's a lot of fun. And
20:11
if you haven't heard of zoot, they're a really
20:14
cool band. Actually Rick Springfield, who became famous over
20:16
here in the States under his
20:18
own name, was originally in zoot. They broke
20:20
up very shortly after recording this. But yeah,
20:22
it's a nice arrangement, it's a cool cover.
20:25
And a zoot, man. Good band. Check
20:27
them out. Now lastly we have two
20:29
covers of Blackbird. I'm
20:46
not going to get as in-depth on these, but they're
20:48
both nice covers. Blackbird is such
20:50
a funny one because the original is very
20:52
simple but also so distinct.
20:54
I think the way it's recorded with Paul
20:56
McCartney's little foot taps over on the side
20:59
there, at least in the stereo mix, the
21:01
way the guitar sounds, even the way that
21:03
his voice is miked, the specific
21:05
sound of whatever microphone it was they were
21:07
using. Everything about it is super
21:10
distinct despite the fact that it's just a foot
21:12
tapping and a guitar and a couple
21:14
of overdubbed vocal tracks. It's very distinct. But
21:17
then covers of it tend to just be
21:19
someone playing guitar and singing it, or playing
21:21
piano and singing it, which can be beautiful.
21:23
I mean, it's a beautiful song and it
21:25
can sound good, but it's rare that people
21:27
do all that much with it. I do,
21:29
however, like these two covers that I want
21:31
to highlight. The first one is Crosby, Stills,
21:34
and Nash. They liked to perform this song
21:36
live. There's a 1982 live recording of them
21:38
doing it. And it's just nice to listen
21:40
to them because they're one of the greatest
21:42
vocal harmony groups to ever record, and they
21:44
do a very nice vocal arrangement
21:46
on this song. You
21:51
Were only waiting for this
21:53
moment to be free. Have
22:12
a dog like. They
22:16
also do cool stuff like this. So
22:32
beautiful cover. It's very different from the original in
22:34
that they use a lot of Mccartney's voice leading
22:36
but of course they're expanding and out into the
22:38
three per focal her me as think it's beautiful
22:41
and of live recording is nice too because it
22:43
sounds live it sounds like they're listening to one
22:45
another as kind of lose the guitar part of
22:47
can a loose you can tell they just sort
22:50
of learned the song that they love and then
22:52
know just performing it for people and I like
22:54
the intimacy of that. The other cover is one
22:56
that I'm very familiar with and really wanted to
22:59
highlight on the show because I don't think that
23:01
that many people. Have heard it! I think I
23:03
may have actually talked about it on the show
23:05
in the past, but that's Brad Mehldau as cover
23:07
the great jazz pianist Brad. Mehldau
23:28
recorded a series of records in the late
23:30
nineties inspired by the great jazz pianist Sunny
23:32
Clark, and they were called the Art of
23:34
the Trio. his
23:45
piano trio with jorge rossi the
23:48
drummer and leary grinning ear to
23:50
bass player to incredibly good and
23:52
very sympathetic decisions they made this
23:55
trio together that's just one of
23:57
the most beautiful sort of improvisational
23:59
organism to ever exist in music.
24:01
You know, they're right up there with
24:03
Bill Evans' trio, with Keith Jarrett's trio,
24:06
the great piano trios of jazz. This
24:08
recording is from their first album and
24:10
it's a pretty straightforward performance but it's
24:12
so beautiful. Like
24:17
Larry Grenadier is just pedaling a G on the
24:19
upright bass but listen to how much he's able
24:22
to do with Jorge Rossi's
24:24
brushed drums. It's
24:40
a beautiful recording that's really just grown on
24:42
me over time. The more familiar I became
24:44
with the original, the more fun it is
24:46
to listen to them play and their improvisations,
24:48
the kind of the point where I just
24:51
stopped playing it, you know, they stretch out
24:53
and meldau really improvises. He moves all around
24:55
through that chord progression, writing his own lines
24:57
and there's a lot of fluidity. They're a
24:59
very fluid group but they never stray too
25:01
far from the core of the song and
25:03
they don't lose the form. So once you
25:05
know the song, it's really cool to listen
25:07
to how they move through those chords. It's
25:35
just this beautiful conversation. It's like everything with this
25:37
group. It's kind of a great way in if
25:39
you haven't listened to a lot of jazz piano
25:41
trio stuff and you want to listen to them.
25:43
This song is one that maybe more people are
25:45
familiar with and they still do their whole thing
25:47
on it. It's a really killer improvisational
25:49
performance but it's a more familiar song and
25:51
they do some other covers as well. Meldau
25:54
likes a good cover. He has a couple
25:56
of great radio head covers in his discography
25:58
as well. Anyways, this is a great... great
26:00
performance and I did want to mention it on
26:02
the show because I didn't have space for it
26:04
in the original episode, but really just lovely stuff.
26:06
It's really informed the way that I interpret this
26:08
melody and the way that I play it on
26:10
piano. And also at the very end, Mel Dao
26:12
goes solo and he really kind of digs in
26:15
and I love the way that he ends it.
26:17
So let's let Brad Mel Dao take us home.
27:02
And that'll do it for this bonus episode with
27:04
just a few more covers of the Beatles songs
27:06
that I talked about back in 2022. As always,
27:08
thanks so much for listening. I hope that you're
27:10
as excited about season six as I am. And
27:12
to mention it one more time, if you want
27:15
to go listen to that premiere about a really
27:17
amazing song, Peter Gabriel's In Your Eyes, you can
27:19
go listen to it right now at patreon.com/strong
27:21
songs. And of course, if you can't
27:24
become a patron, that's totally fine. You
27:26
can listen to the episode in two
27:28
weeks. No big deal. I'm very excited
27:30
for Strong Song season six. And I
27:32
hope that you're as excited as I am.
27:34
Until then, take care, keep listening and I'll
27:36
see you in two weeks with season six
27:39
of Strong Song.
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