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much of it was just not knowing, not knowing what he

4:02

was doing. Being like all

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of these bones are together. And here are these

4:06

bones from this other place that really don't know

4:08

how much of this was him wanting to get

4:11

people to come to his museum and, you know,

4:14

make a living off of these bones. How

4:16

much of it was that and how much of it was

4:18

just not knowing, not knowing what he was doing being

4:21

like all of these bones are together. And

4:23

here are these bones from this other place

4:26

that look the same. Surely they're all one

4:28

animal. Yeah. He was like

4:30

a pro at archeological fanfic. Yeah.

4:33

Like, of course this goes here. Look

4:36

how it do. I don't

4:38

have any actual science to back it up,

4:40

but I think it matches. Yeah.

4:43

Yeah. This is

4:45

one of those stories, right? We have

4:47

talked a lot about intent on the show

4:50

and how good intent without

4:53

any kind of seeking of, of

4:56

nuance or education is

4:59

meaningless and problematic. Yeah. But I do

5:01

think there's, we've got to be able

5:04

to carve out a little space for

5:06

someone who doesn't even

5:08

know that they're maybe ignorant. And

5:10

he probably thought he was making

5:12

these really interesting, intuitive

5:14

connections that could solve problems

5:17

of like what we didn't

5:19

understand. But it

5:21

was very problematic. Well, and there, there

5:24

have been other hoaxes that

5:26

were more clearly hoaxes. Right.

5:29

That caused a problem like

5:31

the pilt down man. That

5:33

was a hoax and

5:35

that influenced research

5:40

into the origins of humanity,

5:42

sending a lot of people

5:44

like down the wrong path

5:46

for a damaging amount of

5:48

time. And I

5:50

find that, that kind of story like

5:53

very frustrating, but this is one where.

5:56

The people who did know what

5:58

they were doing were immediately like

6:00

the. You have too many vertebrae

6:02

and too many pairs of ribs.

6:07

This was not how this animal was,

6:09

like this was not something that prompted

6:11

a whole bunch of research based

6:13

on something that was fake. If

6:17

it had been, I would have found

6:19

it way less funny

6:22

than I did. But

6:25

no, it seems like the

6:27

people that had more knowledge pretty

6:29

quickly were like, no, this is

6:32

not correct, not correct at all. And

6:35

this gets into that space, right?

6:37

There are instances where

6:40

someone from outside of a field

6:43

because they are not bogged down

6:46

with the accepted laws and rules

6:48

that everyone has been taught actually

6:51

do make advances because they can

6:53

see something that like if you

6:55

have been indoctrinated with those laws

6:57

and rules, which are often very

6:59

well thought out and sensible, you

7:02

wouldn't see. But, and

7:04

I don't know if he thought he might be one of

7:06

them. There's a charitable part

7:09

of me that wants to think he

7:11

thought he was really making a jump

7:13

that established scientists just couldn't see. Yeah,

7:15

it is possible that there

7:18

is some sort of introspection

7:22

on these kinds of questions in the

7:25

diary of his that was translated into

7:27

English. I did not use that as

7:29

a source

7:31

for the episode beyond like fact

7:35

checking some specific details just

7:37

because there was so much other stuff. And in

7:39

some cases, not only have they not been translated

7:41

into English, but like there's just not a scan

7:43

of them. Right. That

7:45

maybe I could have worked with

7:48

somebody to find out more about. And it's

7:51

possible that within that material, we have more

7:53

of his inner thought process. Yeah. To

7:56

know whether he really thought he was making

7:59

a miraculous discovery. or whether he was

8:01

like, you know, if I make a

8:03

skeleton big enough, surely people

8:05

will come to my museum. It's

8:10

like the, um, the, the

8:12

memes you see about master plans

8:15

where it's like one, dig bones, two, build together

8:17

three profits. Yeah. Yeah.

8:21

It's a lot like that.

8:23

Yeah. Blessings on

8:25

you. Uh,

8:29

I'm glad that I finally, uh, decided enough time

8:31

had passed to talk about this guy because while

8:33

I'm not, I'm not totally sure my end verdict

8:36

on him, one

8:39

of many fun things to get to read about

8:41

in terms of the things that he wrote and

8:43

things other people wrote about him. Interesting

8:48

to me today, there's basically another museum in the

8:50

spot where his museum was by the

8:52

gateway arch with a, which I think at

8:54

one point was called the museum of westward

8:56

expansion. That's not what it is anymore. It

8:59

has been renamed. Uh,

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I had a hard time saying

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many words in this episode. Some

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had lots of letters in them, and

14:13

some of them were like about

14:15

or to or... I

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horrible crimes against Greek

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names. But when

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you're trying to work those all out, then I find, at least for me,

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saying other completely normal words becomes harder

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because you're fatigued. Yes. My brain had

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been like, ah, it was so hard

14:36

with like nine syllables.

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What's this next sentence? I

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don't even know. Right. We

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the laws that Salah passed. Like we

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talked about what they related to and

14:51

how he had sorted it out. And

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there are entire books written that will examine them.

14:57

But I was going to talk about a

15:00

couple of them because they're interesting to me.

15:03

In particular, I was very

15:05

fascinated by laws about

15:08

family life and marriage and

15:10

women. And in

15:12

one of the Plutarch translations,

15:14

there are some good paragraphs.

15:17

One reads, quote, Salah's laws

15:20

in general about women are

15:22

his strangest, for he permitted

15:24

anyone to kill an adulterer that found him in

15:26

the act. But if anyone

15:28

forced a free woman, a hundred drachmas

15:30

was the fine. I don't

15:33

know why he would find this strange, except that women were

15:35

not valued at this point. This

15:37

continues, if he enticed her 20, except

15:39

those that sell themselves openly, that is

15:41

harlots, which we know is, you know,

15:44

outdated, who go openly to those

15:46

that hire them. He made it

15:48

unlawful to sell a daughter or a

15:50

sister unless being yet unmarried. She

15:52

was found wanton. This obviously

15:55

reflects very outdated ideas. But

15:57

I was a little bit startled that there were a lot of women.

18:00

Yeah. Yeah. I

18:04

promised I would tell the story of

18:06

the microwave experiments. Yeah, yeah. So I have

18:08

maybe told on the show before, I know

18:10

I've told Tracy it before. Yeah. When

18:13

my husband and I got married, we

18:17

found ourselves with three microwaves, which is more

18:19

than any two people need. I

18:22

had one that came from my apartment. He had

18:25

one that he had been using in his apartment.

18:27

And he had a third one because

18:30

he inherited some stuff from

18:34

aunts and uncles that had passed. He had a lot of a

18:37

lot of aunts on

18:39

his father's side that were much older than his dad. So

18:41

they had, a lot of them had passed by the time

18:43

we met. And it had

18:46

just been sitting around. And once we were like, we have

18:48

three of these things. We do not need three of these

18:50

things. I gave one

18:53

away to a woman that I knew

18:55

through work who was starting her own

18:57

new life and apartment and

19:02

was young and needed stuff. So that was great. We

19:04

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19:06

that we were gonna keep was

19:08

in good working condition. And then the third one was

19:11

like, fine, but not great.

19:13

Like we would have felt weird giving it away

19:15

to someone because it wasn't in great condition. And

19:17

so of course us being 25 and 27 at

19:19

the time, our

19:21

solution was let's blow

19:23

stuff up in it. Yeah. It's

19:26

a sort of scientific thing. We were like

19:28

curious, cause we like everyone else have been

19:30

told, don't put certain things in the microwave.

19:32

And we were like, but what if, we

19:34

put on like protective

19:37

goggles and stuff and we put those weird things

19:39

in the microwave to see what would happen. And

19:42

like we put in a CD,

19:44

which was pretty thrilling cause

19:46

that spun in the microwave and shot

19:48

off sparks. We put

19:50

whole uncracked eggs in there and they exploded

19:52

and that was pretty fun. And

19:55

we did put in little small metal things

19:57

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26:01

brother and sister-in-law gave us

26:03

for Christmas a

26:05

bowl that is made to cook

26:08

things in in the microwave and

26:10

the lid has metal on it,

26:12

but like the way it is shaped, like it's,

26:17

I haven't actually used it in the microwave. We've

26:19

used it for a lot of other purposes, but

26:21

not for its intended purpose yet, theoretically

26:24

fine. So yeah, I'm

26:26

sort of imagining folks

26:28

that have listened to our

26:30

episode from Wednesday and not today may

26:33

have already written well actually emails about

26:36

all the nuances of metal in the microwave.

26:38

And man, it's just easier to not put

26:41

the metal in there. That is exactly it.

26:43

And I would assume that's why if you look

26:46

up that Alton

26:48

Brown do your own bagged popcorn

26:51

recipe on any site, they have amended

26:53

it to exclude the staple part. Well,

26:56

and I can imagine if the staple

26:58

does happen to throw sparks off in

27:00

the microwave that has a paper bag

27:02

in it, that could lead to some

27:05

dramatic results. Listen,

27:07

odds may be that it wouldn't do that, but the

27:09

one time it does that is one

27:11

time too many in my book. Don't

27:15

take needless risk for snacks. I just don't need

27:17

to do it. If you want to

27:19

take that risk, it's on you. I'm just saying. Yeah.

27:23

I usually lately I've been doing

27:25

my popcorn in a

27:28

saucepan. And

27:30

I have been trying the method. We're revisiting how we

27:32

make popcorn again, but look, this is a big focus

27:34

in my life right now. Lately I

27:36

have been doing the thing where you

27:39

let the oil couple of kernels in there,

27:41

they pop, put your other stuff and

27:43

then like that it doesn't go back on the

27:45

heat after that. Not for 45

27:47

seconds to a minute. And then it goes back on. Okay.

27:49

I see. I see. You

27:52

were correct, but then it went back on after

27:54

a period of time. I was missing a step.

27:57

Yeah. Because I probably didn't include it. We'll

30:00

see. Yeah. But now I've

30:02

checked that one off. There's also just a

30:05

particular, unless, I mean, unless your field is,

30:07

you know, the ancient Mediterranean,

30:11

there's a particular challenge that's common

30:13

in a lot of those episodes

30:15

in terms of doing the research.

30:18

And that can become fatiguing after

30:20

a while. It is a bit

30:22

arduous, yes. And

30:24

also a lot of the things that are

30:26

really interesting that have been written about it

30:30

are old enough that

30:32

you can't really get them in print now. And

30:36

also kind of obscure enough

30:38

that they're not necessarily digitized, even though

30:40

they would be in public domain. And

30:43

like some of the ones that are digitized, you

30:45

still have to buy access to because they're, you

30:48

know, part of some library selection.

30:50

Sure, sure. So that

30:52

can also be like a little thing.

30:55

And we're working exclusively

30:57

from translations of

31:00

things that were written often

31:03

many years after those people lived. So

31:06

like we would have to do that big caveat we did

31:08

at the beginning of this one on every one of them.

31:10

Every time. Well, you know, we're talking

31:13

about it, but like none of this

31:15

is really substantiated. Right. Which

31:20

can be fun to discuss if you know those guardrails,

31:22

but also if we did that all the time, it

31:24

would get a little frustrating. Yeah. Yeah.

31:27

Oh, I hope that this

31:29

weekend, no one asks

31:32

you to lead any kind of military

31:34

effort to retake an island and no

31:36

one asks you to completely reorganize a

31:38

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