0:02

The war started, and some people don't get the message.

0:04

They're kidnapping some of our workers because

0:08

you know, they're involved with a certain person

0:10

that we're politicking making cars,

0:12

Like hey, that's

0:15

our manager, we need him.

0:18

You need to let him go. Like whatever it is that

0:20

was the problem, Like we could work it out

0:22

later. Those

0:24

like situations every day that the

0:27

stress was, like we're

0:29

in those wars. The only people died and

0:31

the soldiers. You know, these

0:33

bosses aren't going over there doing nothing. And

0:36

I'll tell you, man, that's the saddest part about this that

0:39

you know at the end they fixed it with a handshake.

0:42

I just go back to what about all the people that died.

0:51

Yeah, I've

1:01

got for St. Jackson and I'm Charlie

1:03

Webster and this is surviving old chapel

1:05

which once you brought down a drug boll I've

1:18

seen some wild stuff in strip blow, but

1:21

nothing that's crazy, you know what they

1:23

say, Nothing good, ever, happens

1:25

after midnight. In the early hours

1:28

of the morning, Pete, j, Viviana

1:30

and Val were entertaining associates

1:32

at a strip club in the island getaway of

1:34

Punta met But there was something

1:36

about the dude looking over

1:38

at them from the bar. I didn't feel

1:40

right. I

1:45

remember my brother telling me a couple

1:47

of times, there's going

1:49

by the bar and he just keeps staring, staring

1:51

over her, look

1:54

at all and he's

1:56

staying so I

2:00

was like kind of like, I'm already

2:03

not feeling good. Something

2:05

about that dude was oddly

2:07

familiar to Pete, and

2:09

he kind of like looks over his shoulder at

2:12

me, and

2:14

I'm looking at this fucking agent. I

2:19

recognized him as the same agent who

2:21

knocked on my door and were stored me

2:23

for the money. It

2:25

happened so fast by somebody get up and look

2:27

at him, like I'm trying to get a better glimpse of him. He

2:30

was gone. The

2:32

last time you saw him was the

2:35

last time I was on my wedding day. I

2:37

mean, I'll never forget him. He was like me and him are staying

2:39

at each other. I remember, by the time

2:41

I'm trying to tell my brother, hey, listen to

2:44

the agents there. You know, I'm getting up. I'm like

2:46

the agents are to

2:49

me. It happened so fast that

2:51

by the time I did that, I

2:53

didn't even notice that there was like sucking

2:56

what he meant, just

2:59

just standing wrong. I didn't know any that, and

3:01

before I couldn't even think of anything else. They

3:04

had their guns out. No

3:10

matter how many times you get a gun pointed at you,

3:12

you still always think, is

3:15

this it for me? I'm

3:21

getting the fund? Did they come in with a

3:23

bunch of machine runs? And now they're

3:25

like and make a lack of egg everybody?

3:27

You know, they put their guns out. Oh you

3:29

hear like the mooning your

3:33

bottle of breaking and people running and screaming.

3:37

They come down there and they're like,

3:39

don't fucking move, you know what I'm telling me about. Just chill

3:41

like and they're like getting every everybody on the floor.

3:46

They're letting everybody down here,

3:49

putting the gun in the back of my neck and he's like, get

3:52

on the fucking phone. I can't lay down, put

3:55

your hands behind your back and

3:59

everyone and there's so many that

4:01

they could all coming their handcuffing,

4:04

the running

4:06

a little stupid stoclar. Everyone's

4:11

the on instruments,

4:14

so kid, I can't tell

4:16

you. The sad ball was going and I was like wrapping

4:18

like a lot of movement. You

4:22

know, they're trying to rush this out, like you know, everyone

4:25

needs, Like there's so many of them that they could like

4:27

rush his iron. What

4:30

got me scared was even more was that when

4:32

I came out, I've

4:36

seen a fucking row Stuv's

4:38

like just random ASSUV suburban

4:40

and Cherokees, tacoles like when

4:42

no place, and

4:44

I'm just like, what the fuck? They went to

4:52

the commotion. We're the strippers

4:54

and everybody we're turning tables over because

4:57

it was like maybe fourteen armed

5:00

men with scheme mask coming

5:03

with guns in the air, like everybody

5:06

on the floor. Everybody on the floor. But

5:08

before I even try to move, they already had a gun to my

5:10

head like don't move, don't move. We

5:15

were all thinking, oh my god, there's a big word

5:17

at that time, were the vival cards out. They

5:22

threw us on the floor right, We put handcuffs on us, and

5:26

I'm like, hey, what's going on. We still

5:28

don't know. They just literally pick us up like

5:31

in a hurry. They're in

5:34

a rush, guns to their head. They got like

5:36

come on, come on, like screaming commotion.

5:39

They are shows out. When

5:44

I would look outside, I see it. There's a bunch

5:46

of suburbans and they have

5:48

lights on police lights, you

5:50

know, the show lights. They

5:54

take me my brother and vow. They

5:57

kind of pushes into suburban, you know, still

6:00

holding a gun into my back, still holding a gun to

6:02

my brother, like and during scheme mask,

6:06

when I touched the truck, I could

6:08

feel the truck. I know, it's a bulletproof truck. So

6:10

that got me a little bit more nervous. The

6:13

metal was just heavy, and I could tell just like jumping

6:15

in, I'm jumping down the bullet food truck. The

6:19

doors opened so you could see the glass, you

6:22

know that I'm a little bit like, Okay, there's

6:25

a chance that this could be the government. Pete

6:31

jane Va were dragged out of the club

6:33

and thrown into dark bulletproof SUVs.

6:37

But there was someone missing, Viviana.

6:44

You know, I didn't know like what was

6:46

going to happen. I mean, when

6:48

everyone was on the floor and guns

6:51

at everyone's head. Luckily

6:55

the stripper she

6:58

took me by the arm. She ran

7:00

me in the back with all the other

7:03

ladies there. They

7:06

were telling me to be quiet. They're like, be quiet,

7:09

be quiet. They don't want them to hear you. I don't want

7:11

them to hear you. Because I was already panicking and

7:13

crying, and I

7:15

didn't know what was going to happen. For

7:19

sure. The first thing that came to my head that they were going

7:21

to shoot up the whole club. That

7:24

was like no doubt in my mind

7:26

that that was going to happen. The

7:30

girls, they were devastated, they were crying,

7:32

and they were just telling me to please be quiet, please

7:34

be quiet. And then they had me like kneeling

7:36

in the corner like trying to hide

7:38

me. It

7:41

was a completely quiet like you heard like whimpers

7:44

like from other people that were scared around there.

7:47

And then a man comes

7:49

in screaming, you know, where is she? Where

7:51

is she? He

8:00

came in. The girls

8:02

were like all around me, just still trying to hide me,

8:06

and he came and grabbed me like right

8:08

like a rag doll, like right off the floor and

8:11

then dragged me in the car in the front

8:14

seat with him. So he had me in the passenger

8:16

seat with him. He

8:19

dragged me along, yeah, because it was like all

8:21

the way in the back of the building.

8:25

He had me like by my stomach, like lifting

8:27

me up like my feet were off the floor,

8:30

and I was like trying to get away. He

8:33

kept holding me tighter and I was like trying

8:35

to free up his arms

8:37

from holding me so tight. I

8:43

know, I was scratching him and

8:46

trying to like free myself from from

8:48

his arm. And he was a

8:50

big guy, so I mean, and I'm nothing

8:53

but pounds, and

8:56

you know, he just had me like a ragged out self me

9:00

threw me in the truck. He kept holding

9:02

holding me in and I just I was like, if

9:04

anything, I'm gonna jump out this window.

9:07

I don't care. He's not going to drag me. I'm not gonna

9:10

go with him. You

9:13

see tons of SUVs,

9:15

and I'm like the only thing that can happen to me

9:17

is that's it, you know, this is this

9:20

is the end. I

9:22

was like kicking the front of the dashboard,

9:25

just trying to like free myself

9:27

out the window, and he was like grabbing

9:29

me, and I was just like, I'm gonna fly

9:31

out this one all. I don't care what happens

9:34

to me. He

9:38

was dreaming at me. He's like sit down, sit down,

9:40

sit down. So he really really

9:42

really took me and was just holding

9:44

me with all his might. And you

9:46

know, he was just holding me by my stomach and like

9:48

I felt my ribs like caving and that's how hard

9:51

he was holding me. And it

9:54

was just so many things were going through my head at

9:56

that time, so

9:58

I didn't know what was gonna become

10:01

of any of us. And

10:04

I wasn't in the same truck as Peter, so

10:08

I was even more more scared.

10:11

I didn't have him there. Jay

10:14

wasn't there, a Valerie wasn't there, so

10:18

I was like, I'm here by myself. So

10:21

that's why I was like Charlie. I

10:23

was like, I'm gonna jump out this fucking

10:25

window. My

10:31

fucking heart just broke when I seen

10:34

them walking out where they

10:36

were kicking and screaming, holding

10:39

and looking. She's fighting with our mine

10:41

and kicking and yelling, and

10:44

they put her into that should be I

10:47

see her in the front, you know that should mean? And they take

10:49

off like they're putting in the trucks and like, let's

10:51

go. I

10:55

remember that I'm handcuffed and I'm

10:57

looking at when I could see her like, So'm

11:00

out the window of the fun the truck

11:02

always going for and Sutil was a low. It's

11:06

so hard just

11:09

thinking the worst h

11:28

when we're getting ushered into the truck had been thrown

11:31

in the middle of the console. There's

11:33

a little guy and he's

11:36

like you know, screaming,

11:38

shouting, you know, all these

11:40

thoughts are going through my head, like what's going on. MS

11:44

like, all right, I got you now. Motherfucker's

11:49

in English, and

11:52

I said huh. He's

11:54

like, oh, I got you now, motherfucker

11:56

you are fuck You're going back

11:58

to the US. There's

12:01

an agent, me handkled

12:04

Val Peter, another

12:07

agent and the

12:09

driver and another agent right in

12:11

the front. I

12:14

remember him getting on the phone

12:17

and he's I want

12:19

to say, he said Tom it

12:22

was American name, and he's

12:24

like calling and then I hear him come

12:27

right next to him. He's like, I got them, I

12:30

got them, I got the floorst Twins

12:32

called me back. Instantly.

12:36

I go into like no no, no, no, no

12:39

no no, don't call him, don't

12:41

call him. We could fix this. We

12:44

could fix this, like, don't call him, there's

12:48

no room, some kind of nethor and I'm

12:50

talking to the driver. He's like, he

12:52

starts talking to me. Shut the funk

12:55

up with that bullshit. You

12:58

know. I was saying, let fix this in Spanish, someone

13:00

let's fix like, we could fix it. Whatever

13:02

you do. Don't take us the station. We could

13:04

fix that, could pay you. He said, oh

13:06

yeah, like you fucking paid me. Motherfucker m

13:10

Tix the mask oft I've

13:14

never seen him, and

13:17

I'm like, who are you? And

13:19

then he just see his

13:21

face and

13:23

I looked up here. He said, that's dude,

13:27

the customer agent that had tried to extorting

13:30

us, probably before from PM

13:34

wedding. And I was like, oh ship.

13:37

So instantly he said, you're gonna go back to fucking

13:39

you guys for the rest of your life. Motherfucker's

13:44

screaming. So I'll give you,

13:46

like what we have money, like, we'll pay you, like

13:49

whatever you want, will give you si million dollars,

13:51

like whatever you want. Just let us go. So

13:55

if I was a little bit frightened

13:59

here circling, she was like screaming. It

14:01

was a lot of commotion. It

14:04

was a lot of commotion. So my brother remember

14:06

him being a little bit quiet. I

14:09

started talking to the driver he's

14:12

driving, and

14:15

I started telling him I could pay you.

14:18

Listen to me, I could pay you,

14:24

and he's like, just chill out, chill

14:26

out, commotion, we'll talk. We'll talk when we get

14:28

the station. I

14:30

just felt like it was our only opportunity to try

14:32

to get out of it, and I wasn't sure the

14:34

way he was talking. I didn't know if we

14:36

were being kidnapped. I don't know we're being taken. I

14:40

don't know what the situation was, if they

14:42

were going to try to extradite them back to the US,

14:45

because they really were calling the d e A.

14:49

So I didn't know like what the play was. I

14:54

didn't know who they were calling, but we didn't

14:56

know that they were calling someone. It turns

14:58

out they're calling the U S marsh US. I

15:02

guess they already kind of reported us, so

15:06

he had a direct number with whatever

15:08

agent was in charge. I

15:11

think it's happened to me a lot where it's

15:14

unexplainable. Where I go from being

15:16

fearful and not knowing what to do, I go

15:19

into like survival mode. My survival

15:21

model is more like fix it. I

15:26

can't hear my brother tale and I'm over and over

15:28

and over they're fixing. I'm kind

15:31

of worried that he's saying that. I'm

15:33

fearful that he's saying too much.

15:36

Don't walk us into a bigger

15:38

problem, you know, because

15:41

me more aware of exactly

15:44

you know, who was there? My

15:47

brother fuck content complained,

15:51

He stepped up the love and it was like the man

15:53

in the thing. Listen. They

15:56

were like, shut the funk out. I

16:00

remember them telling them looking kids, like you

16:02

can't back up what you're saying, so you stop.

16:08

They droves are wrong, but you

16:10

don't understand that anything. I thought when I seen

16:12

them pulling into the polaces taking

16:14

to the Federal Police Office station, I

16:18

was like, oh, man, maybe they are real cops. Real

16:22

like she saidn'ta be okay, Like the girls are gonna

16:24

be okay. They

16:31

take us to the station like

16:33

the Attorney General's office, but they're like they're

16:36

fats right. They

16:39

take us to these offices. It's not what you're

16:41

think. They got like couches

16:43

like old cultures and the

16:46

desk and there's

16:48

all these ages like literally you know, still were

16:50

a case and they they

16:52

only even search us. They sit us down. It

16:56

was baby Peter Bow

16:59

and me and the rest

17:01

of the culture. We're associates another

17:03

culture. They're freaking out. They were in another

17:06

card. They weren't. They didn't travel with just they're

17:09

like Poe like nervous, scared, what's

17:11

going on? What's going on? I'm just like, really

17:14

like what's going on? Like we're handcuffs,

17:17

they have guns to us. Some

17:20

of them as scheme. As a couple of them take it off. They

17:22

got bulletproof, vest On carried

17:24

up radios, put their regular clothes.

17:28

I'm more constrict and Valance Peter

17:31

and maybe like it was like, Wow,

17:34

you're sitting there like this is gonna be our

17:37

life. That's it, It's

17:39

over. It

17:43

was hard seeing about

17:45

I guess we're realizing it too, and

17:49

uh ving stuff

17:51

like crying, like and I think

17:53

I was more mad at myself. I put

17:56

my wife in that situation and

18:00

it was taking me the right to process. But once you

18:02

started to process what my life was going to

18:04

be, Yeah, it wasn't

18:06

good feeling. And

18:10

the one thing that was the problem

18:12

was that that period of time. I

18:15

don't want to exaggerat either, but I want

18:17

to tell you that I probably

18:20

old like a hundred third million dollars.

18:24

I had a hundred third millions with the drugs there.

18:35

It's because it's a big process in

18:38

order for us to keep our business

18:40

going in the States, and the way we handled it was that

18:42

we always wanted to be consistent. It

18:46

was a supply chain. It

18:49

was a supply chain that would that we needed, like

18:51

to have drugs in Chicago, have drugs out,

18:53

have drugs on the way, have drugs in l A, Mexico

18:56

on the border. It's a supply

18:59

chain and it's it's a lot of money. You

19:02

know, we're thinking of Plan B. And

19:05

the whole time Peter is like, avow

19:08

this is who owes us money, and he

19:10

starts going down the list, repeat,

19:13

repeat, repeat, So I have to go down

19:15

the list, and he gave me like twenty names. Okay,

19:17

this personal is ten million, this personal is eight million,

19:19

this personal six million, going down the list

19:21

and maybe is distraught, and I'm

19:24

just taking it in and I'm just trying to remember everybody

19:26

that owes money because I know at that point that

19:29

if they don't pay the cartel what

19:31

they owe them, then they're basically

19:33

gonna you know, their family is their insurance.

19:38

So if they're not paid,

19:41

what happens is is that the cartel

19:43

will come kill our whole family. He's

19:50

saying that to her, and I'm basically giving

19:53

her like advice, like do not trust anyone

19:55

call this person. You're gonna say this speaking

19:58

from from Afar, whatever the case, like giving

20:00

you those two tell them that were that

20:03

we've been locked up just because a lot of

20:05

people they don't want to play it that when they know

20:07

that, tell her our customers, their

20:09

customers whoever owes money, Like, don't tell

20:11

them that we were locked up, because if that happens,

20:13

they're not gonna want to pay. I'm

20:18

seeing my brother like I'm I'm a little bit emotional,

20:20

like wow, at

20:23

that time, I only know that you're pregnant.

20:25

Huh, you know, I didn't know I was

20:27

pregnant. I was super emotional. I

20:30

think I was just trying to process everything. I

20:33

wasn't sure, like, Okay, are they going

20:35

to do something to us? Are

20:37

we have we been taken? Are we

20:39

kendnapped? Or they really extradited them to the US?

20:42

Are they bullshitting us? Like I wasn't

20:44

sure like what the play was. But

20:48

when I started seeing Peter

20:50

telling baby goodbye and like she's

20:53

going to go back to the States and and

20:55

he's like saying goodbye to her, I'm like, what's

20:58

happening? And I'm looking at Jay what's

21:01

going on? And I'm like, oh my god,

21:03

they're gonna take you. They're gonna take you back, and you're

21:06

never going to get out of prison. I

21:09

think who me and my brother are? It was

21:11

important for us to tell them we're

21:14

basically gonna say goodbye thinking

21:17

about prison. We knew it was gonna be easy. We know what

21:19

that life cares and part of that is your

21:22

relationship, right. I

21:24

think in being that situation, like seeing

21:26

them and I seeing about get a little bit emotional,

21:29

but she's trying to hold it together, still listening because my

21:31

brother is in between trying to console V and still

21:34

drilling did

21:37

you see you as that person? And I wasn't

21:39

saying that to you, saying just

21:41

drilling it in my hand, drilling it in my head. And

21:44

I was just like trying to take it all in. And I

21:46

was still trying to like understand

21:48

and still talk to Jay because he's telling me, you

21:51

know you're gonna be okay. So

21:55

there's a bunch of agents and what this is going

21:57

on, you know. I was just like,

22:00

if I'm fucking I'm like, I'm not gonna give

22:02

up. I

22:05

says, listen until you just

22:07

I need to talk to you. It's important that I talked to you. He

22:09

said, talk to me. He's

22:11

you don't hold him the a K he's told I said, who's

22:14

the one in charge? Tell him?

22:16

I need to talk to him. Call

22:18

him. I'm like literally pressing him. I don't

22:20

shut up. Call him. Who's the guy in charge? Who's

22:23

the guy in charge? He

22:25

finally says, what the fund do you want? Here comes as

22:28

agent. What do you want? Say? I need to talk to you. It's

22:30

important, He said, What do you need

22:32

to talk to me about? I said, I want

22:34

to talk to you about this stupid motherfucker

22:36

that track xtorian Us. We

22:38

gave him, you know, a million dollars or you

22:41

know whatever. He said, what he

22:43

said, come here? He

22:47

stood me up and took me the bag.

22:50

I see the guy. He's outside the office,

22:52

walking back and pasting, looking down. He sees

22:54

me talking to him, and he stops and just

22:56

staring him and said, he came.

22:59

He found out we were He tried to store and we paid

23:01

him, but he didn't come. He

23:04

didn't come right, So why

23:06

would I keep paying him? And

23:10

he's like, so how much did you give him? Like I gave

23:12

him like a million dollars? When

23:15

you know now he's been betrayed because

23:17

in Mexico, if you pay someone, that

23:20

has to be splitting it up, and

23:22

he didn't do that. So

23:26

he's like, where the fun did you get a million dollars, and

23:28

I said, listen, I needed to tell you something

23:32

I worked for Chapel Mawna.

23:38

He said, get the funk out of here.

23:41

He got so mad at me, like

23:44

you are stupid, Like he's

23:46

calling me names. He said, You're like,

23:48

you're stupid. You're probably a fucking gang

23:51

banger from the US who killed some innocent

23:53

person. We send people

23:55

back like you all the time. I said, listen,

23:58

to make the car, make

24:00

the call, tell them that you have the

24:02

twins. Make the call. He's

24:04

like, na, na na. I said, listen,

24:06

how much do you want? How

24:09

much do you want? I need you to let us go. And

24:11

he's like he's just staring at me. He

24:13

said, you know what, go back and sit down. You

24:16

know it's in a different room, like down the hallway.

24:18

So they take me back and

24:24

they sent me back down, and I'm like, hold

24:27

on, I said, oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna

24:29

try to fix this. I'm gonna try to fix this. Peace

24:31

like bro

24:34

spend the time without. I'm

24:36

like, I'm not giving up. I'm not going to give up.

24:41

Now I'm starting to talk to the other ages.

24:43

I'll pay all of you a million dollars. You

24:48

know, there's one thing for them to be able to walk away,

24:50

but it's one thing for them to hear a million dollars like And

24:53

they're looking at me like I'm crazy. Of course right, I

24:55

don't fit the profile of what anarcho looks

24:57

like. So then I believe

24:59

in they

25:02

come get me again, times gets me again.

25:05

He says, okay, he

25:07

said, how much money do you if it's like that, how

25:09

much money do you have? I

25:11

saw, I'll give him million dollars. It's not gonna work

25:13

that way, he said, just to clarify

25:16

that he you're talking

25:18

to, I guess to gain charge of the

25:20

agents. So

25:25

he takes me to break, like how much money you have? And I'm

25:28

kind of telling him I'll

25:30

pay you a million dollars let me go, you know, and

25:33

can't win from a million dollars to three to five.

25:35

So I said, listen, man, how much do you want? I'll give you ten million

25:37

dollars, but you have to let me go. He's

25:40

like, you think I'm stupid, you're telling me ten million dollars.

25:43

I'm like, listen, I'm

25:45

gonna tell you something. I'm

25:48

the biggest drug distributor

25:50

for seeing a lot of card tell. He

25:55

said, you gotta stop bullshitting

25:57

me. And I said, I'm not shooting

26:00

you. They

26:03

told me I was crazy. Shut the funk

26:05

up. You know. I kept insisting,

26:07

like I'm the biggest distributor. I

26:10

owe them more money than your life is worth.

26:13

Those are my threats. Think about what I'm telling

26:15

you. Whatever

26:17

happens to me, you're responsible for. I

26:20

has to make the car. He

26:27

said, how much money are you waiting to get

26:29

for your family or your wife and all

26:31

your associates. You

26:35

got ten million dollars for them. Listen,

26:38

you have no way out. They're

26:41

coming for you. Do you use marshall?

26:46

I said, how much do you want?

26:48

He said, why a million

26:50

dollars? And you have to get

26:52

it to me. That

26:54

was more worried about. You know how I was opening

26:57

my mouth. I'm giving them

26:59

more in form asian, which

27:01

is kind of could be used against me, not

27:04

in the court of law, in

27:06

the criminal world, like and

27:09

I said, I need to make a phone car. You

27:11

kind of thought twice. He

27:14

said, let me ask you a question. If

27:17

you're so important like you

27:20

said you are, why didn't

27:22

you check in I explained

27:24

to him. I said I didn't check in with you, because

27:26

I didn't want to burn myself out. I'm

27:28

not in that situation. He

27:31

said, okay, well where

27:33

do you meet chap Wan Mayo? And after what

27:35

do you mean where are that? And I said, if

27:38

I get out of this one, I'll

27:40

make sure I didn't know that you asked me so

27:42

you could go meet him yourself. And

27:46

he was like, who else do you know? I

27:50

didn't think about that at that time. I'm like, Wow, who's

27:52

the nice So I know everyone, everyone

27:54

who's important. The problem

27:56

is that when you're in the situation

27:59

and I know all of bosses, which

28:01

probably most most of the public

28:03

knows, if you're nobody, which

28:06

was easy for me to say, but I was telling the truth.

28:09

So I had to sit there and just think. I said, hold,

28:11

like, give me a second, let me think. I

28:15

started saying names. Hit

28:20

me. I

28:22

said, I know who's in church here? He

28:26

said who? I

28:29

said, match it Mencha,

28:31

Mitche, Mitchet Mentor.

28:35

That got to attention. He

28:37

said, you know Mentor. I said,

28:39

I don't know him, but he knows me. Car.

28:45

But they're not looking at me the same anymore. They're

28:49

looking at me a little bit frightened, a little bit scary.

28:52

That kind of gave me a little bit more of a like

28:55

confidence call mention.

28:58

I'm telling him not my voice changes, make

29:01

the car. They're

29:04

like goose to town. Mm

29:10

hmm. During

29:14

these moments, we're sitting night, there's

29:17

a lot of back and forth, you know, but a little moments

29:19

and we're going

29:21

through into my conversation.

29:24

We're handchled together. I

29:27

was scary Y's

29:30

not the whole of the time ahead of me.

29:34

I remember Jay still playing

29:36

with him, and he's so constrained about

29:39

you know, value situation. They're just playing

29:41

with him. Finally,

29:44

like I commonly

29:47

change your tone. I remember them saying, like,

29:49

who the fund did you call? I

29:52

think they're like looking at each other and

29:55

they had this like what the

29:57

fund do? We just doing that comter face. And

30:02

I don't know what they said, but when

30:04

that immigration always heard

30:07

that he was gone.

30:11

He was like, what the funk? Right, that's

30:14

it, he was gone. And

30:17

they took stuff from the girl like their persons

30:20

and watered they still

30:22

that's what they Yeah. I

30:25

could see his face like like

30:27

them telling him something that we could seem like to the

30:29

classic outside. And

30:32

it was Sunday morning, and

30:36

I could see that till they start getting worried, but they're

30:38

still like talking to my brother and

30:40

made like a little difference. At

30:43

that moment, I really felt like, yeah, all this is bullshit. We're

30:46

gonna get out of this one. I

30:50

want you to mention that J was like really

30:52

persist and he insisted that he didn't give

30:55

up. He didn't give up. J did

30:57

not give up. And I guess the

30:59

little moment had ship to lose, like off from

31:01

whatever the fund you have to you know, it's accous,

31:03

it doesn't happen. And

31:08

I think that those thoughts must have

31:10

hit home hard when my brother was offering

31:12

him that much money and they

31:15

weren't listening. Thirty

31:29

minutes later, they're

31:31

like, well, listen, we decided that we're not

31:33

going to make a call because it's too late for you. At

31:37

that moment, his

31:40

phone started for it. And

31:45

Charlie, if I tell you that, when his phone rang

31:48

and he looked at it and

31:50

looked at me, I knew I

31:54

had a feeling, just

31:57

the intuition, just maybe

31:59

he's feeling how he looked at me a little bit nervous and

32:02

he answers when hello,

32:05

nice though he says yes,

32:08

sir, yes

32:10

sir. He

32:13

turns and he's like, uh huh, yes, yeah,

32:16

that's the case. He turns to look

32:18

to me and he was like, bunker.

32:22

He pointed at mean model, told

32:24

me like that went anger and

32:26

I just looked at him. He

32:31

walked away. I could

32:33

hear him what I would call kissing as on

32:36

the phone. He comes

32:38

back to guess her he's

32:40

right here, puts

32:43

the phone into my ear. Hello.

32:48

I said, hello, twin, is this

32:50

you? I said,

32:53

yes, sir, I'm the

32:55

secretary. He said,

32:58

your dad listening. That's

33:01

what they say. It's there's a nickname to chocolate.

33:06

They're listening. Who's your friend? And

33:10

I give him the name of one of my closest

33:12

friends and

33:15

I just said, what's

33:19

He said, Okay, we're on the right

33:21

page. Did

33:24

I hear? What

33:28

the fuck did you get

33:30

yourself into? What

33:35

did you give yourself into? Why

33:37

are you there? I don't like, sir, like

33:40

it's a long story. He

33:42

said, why are you offering him so much money? Because

33:45

they wouldn't take a little bit. No, don't

33:47

do it. Stop offering them money. Stop

33:50

offering the money. He

33:52

said, who's with you and

33:55

my brother? Your twin brother? Yes,

33:59

what the fuck are you guys? Doing

34:01

it together. I'm

34:03

just like, kind of quiet. Who else our

34:07

wives? Your wives

34:09

aren't there with I'm disappointed. I'm

34:12

so fucking disappointed that you

34:15

got yourself into this mess. I

34:18

said, sir, if you don't mind, can

34:21

we talk about this later. He

34:24

says, I'm gonna make some calls.

34:27

He said, your uncle my nose, so

34:30

everyone's colleague. Whatever

34:32

you do, I want you to know something. You're

34:35

the fucking boss there. You are

34:37

the boss, and

34:39

stop offering him money. Keep

34:43

this phone, yes, sir,

34:47

Okay, they're

34:50

putting the phone to my ears. I'm like, you

34:53

know, listen, do you want to talk

34:55

to him? Yes? Put

34:57

him on the phone now. The SI I could hear

34:59

the it's the secretary is like, he's there's

35:02

someone on speaker and I'm talking to whoever's

35:04

passing on the phone. And they

35:06

said something to him and he

35:08

hangs up the phone. He

35:11

comes to me and he was gonna say, take these fucking

35:13

handkles on him, take

35:15

these sucking as he like to take

35:17

him off. And I said, give

35:19

me the phone. I need your phone. He

35:22

gives me the phone. I said, listen, this is what

35:24

we're gonna do. I said, you're gonna

35:26

let our wives go. Me

35:29

and my brother gonna stay, and

35:32

you're gonna let them take the cards. You're gonna let them go and

35:34

do me go with our problems. Then

35:37

I need some assprain And

35:39

he's like, okay, I

35:55

come back and bow

35:58

and everyone looks at me. I

36:01

said, come on, get up, let's go. And

36:03

you know those two are like half sleeping, half

36:05

like what come on, get up, let's go now. All the

36:08

other you know, federalities are like

36:10

what the funk? Like, what's going on? It

36:18

was very emotional. We

36:21

didn't want to leave. She

36:24

started screaming I'm not leaving you. I'm

36:26

not going. That

36:29

really pissed me off. Stop

36:32

messing around. You better get the funk out here

36:34

right now. You go back to the house. You

36:37

get the funk out there as soon as you can before

36:39

they change your mind. And

36:44

you know when our close friends who was an associated

36:46

horse, he was like whit hold on, like what

36:49

what? I just go make sure they make

36:51

it back safely. Just go. And

36:53

he was like, man, gee, I don't want

36:56

to leave you. It's not

36:58

up to you. And

37:00

my brother was like what, Like Peter's confused,

37:03

you know, like what's going on? It

37:06

was hard to say goodbye time again.

37:12

I felt like I said goodbye to too many

37:14

times, and every time it was like a

37:17

real moment of who

37:19

knows what's going to happen. And

37:23

it's weird because like if this was Hollywood,

37:26

you can't keep saying the same thing. You're not gonna say goodbye

37:29

ten times. Since

37:31

this is real life and this is our

37:33

life, we said it plenty four

37:35

times, and it was for real

37:37

life and death situations. I

37:41

feel like we didn't have to say much. I think it was more emotional

37:47

and I just said, you know, just be careful. Remember I

37:50

just don't trust nobody. The

37:53

college trains. It's one

37:58

of the most emotional hugs, that kind of

38:00

sing godbye because you just

38:02

don't know what's gonna happen. It's

38:05

your favorite thing. You're singing

38:07

bye for a good reason, and

38:10

this might be it. Liviana,

38:19

I could see she was scared to sell because

38:22

she was like, no, I don't want to leave, but like I

38:26

hap to leave. I had to

38:28

leave, Like

38:31

when she we would have walked online. Yea, she

38:34

was okay, like I thought, like a

38:36

sense of relief. It

38:41

was early morning, so you know, you felt

38:43

that warm human

38:47

biarda feeling your

38:50

son was super bright, and Valerie

38:52

and I we jumped in the truck. We

38:56

drove straight to the house. Ye.

39:01

We were just worried for what was

39:03

going to come next. When

39:07

I left Peter, I I

39:10

thought that he was gonna go to jail. I thought that they

39:12

were gonna send him to the back

39:14

to the u S. They're

39:24

probably my ask for list some water. I

39:28

sat down back in the couch and I just kind

39:31

of feel my brother and what had just happened. They

39:34

were walking pacing back and for a little bit nervously,

39:39

I've seen them start to like put on their gear.

39:42

They're putting the gear in front of us. They're putting

39:44

extra like they're putting their bulletproof vest.

39:46

They're putting extra clips under

39:49

rest, fixing

39:51

up their handgun, doing all this stuff. They

39:55

said, we're not safe here. We

39:57

have to go I

40:00

And by then, you know, I'm starting to receive phone calls

40:02

from different people. To

40:04

be honest, I don't even know who's calling me. I

40:07

do know that are you okay? Are you okay?

40:09

We're trying to do whatever we could do it. At

40:12

one point I get a call from

40:15

one of the lieutenants from from

40:17

my side of the organization that they

40:19

told me that one of the

40:21

top lieutenants who was a business associated

40:24

us was getting a plane ready with

40:26

five million dollars as a bribe,

40:29

and he said, they have it in wars

40:32

and getting ready to take off. Hopefully

40:35

they accepted as an exchange, and you guys

40:37

jump on a plane, but

40:39

we have to beat the marshals to the airport

40:42

because they're on the flat. The Cartels

40:44

plane was spinning up ready to fly

40:47

in and collect the twins at the last second,

40:49

but they had to beat the U. S. Marshals who

40:52

were already in the country. The

40:54

problem is that they called the marshals and

40:58

the marshals are going from

41:00

Mexico City and route the

41:03

flight time from Patras and the

41:05

flight time from Mexico City are

41:07

an identical three hours.

41:11

The twins only hope was that the Cartel

41:14

got to them before the marshals did.

41:18

He said, you know, we're gonna do whatever we can, which

41:20

you're still trying to working at the

41:23

way he put it, like a cetic a little muscle. I'm

41:25

gonna try to work it out. Just stay calm,

41:31

are you okay? Did they hear you. No, No, okay,

41:34

they did a family. Yes, okay, it's

41:38

gonna be a lot of those carts and you know, the fons

41:40

and been ringing castle. The

41:46

federal agents decided to move us from

41:48

the office into these bulletproof trucks

41:52

and decided to just ride around the town.

41:54

I guess I just think he's the

41:56

chrysto. Couldn't finding where they're at. H

42:01

We dump in the trucks, but it proof. It's

42:04

two ages in the front. It's

42:06

an agent, you know, from the driver's side, Me,

42:09

my brother, two agents. Anybody's

42:12

not handcuffs anymore. Now we're not handcuffed.

42:20

I have the phone. We're emotional

42:23

at times, like I could see my brother. He's

42:25

quiet. We're talking a little bit in English,

42:28

right, not loud, but

42:30

I'm kind of just updating him as per

42:33

phone music. We

42:36

start turning around more

42:38

in than like Lord clestihoods

42:44

and I'm listening to them have conversations,

42:49

and in between my brothers talking to them.

42:54

We used to live here, recapping

42:57

the story about what happened with the customs agent, just

43:00

trying to make him understand why

43:02

we didn't get to that point where

43:05

we were calling him we're reporting with him. I

43:08

get a call. It's musical, one of the top

43:11

lieutenants. He's like, you

43:13

know, I need to talk to you. It's coming

43:15

important. He

43:17

said, it's not gonna happen. It's

43:21

not gonna happen. And everybody

43:23

called for you. Listen,

43:28

I'm calling you because my dad said that they

43:31

got eighty or a hundred men ready

43:34

to come get you and your brother. But

43:39

we're gonna leave that decision for you doing your brother because

43:43

there's a chance that you might not make it out of live

43:46

if we go get you. Whatever

43:49

you decide, we're going to support. But

43:53

if you want to know what I think, you're

43:56

gonna spend the rest of your life in prison anyway. Ye,

44:03

I'm sitting next to fair ages

44:05

with guns. He

44:08

said, I'm

44:10

going to ask you a question, and I just want

44:12

you to tell me yes or no. Do

44:17

you green light for us to call Kitch

44:21

before you answer to your brother? How

44:24

can I finally see my brother? He

44:28

doesn't look good? And

44:31

I said yes.

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