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Welcome, Leah. Thank you so much. Especially if

2:46

I'm your favourite and then only sister. That's

2:49

the point. So Leah, I'm excited to get

2:51

into our theme of the week because this

2:53

week is hormones. Talking

2:55

all things hormones and I think who

2:57

best to speak to about my hormones

2:59

than my sister. Than the

3:01

person who copped it all those years. Yeah, yeah.

3:04

Because you've said it all. So I was a

3:06

teenager when you were a kid.

3:08

There's a few years difference between us.

3:10

Do you remember a particularly hormonal time

3:12

that I was going through in terms

3:14

of my mood? I don't

3:16

know if it was specifically you because I feel like

3:18

either we got along or we didn't. But the only

3:21

thing I remember is dad being like a

3:23

household full of girls. It was just too much

3:25

for him. And then we got our cat and

3:27

then the dog was a girl as well. And

3:29

he was like, I can't with this house. It's

3:31

too much. There's too many moods going on. Like

3:33

you just I can't. I don't

3:35

remember something specific, but I remember our whole house being pretty

3:37

hectic for a few years. And you

3:39

know what? Now that I think about it, a lot of

3:41

the cousins were also female as well.

3:44

So we were surrounding Jimit Zenas with

3:46

just female upon female, pop female. And

3:48

he was so he he he dealt

3:50

with it quite well. But he also

3:53

didn't deal with it at all. He would close the door

3:55

and be like, I'm leaving me. Mum, Caleb yelling at each

3:57

other and he'll just be like, fuck.

4:00

and then we'd be like, shut up, and he'd

4:02

be like, okay, just keep walking, straight through. I'm

4:04

just gonna go outside and blow the leaves, I'm

4:06

like, go, go, go. So true. So

4:09

as a woman, as a mother, with a

4:12

really, really busy job, default parent, lots of

4:14

things going on, I really do feel the

4:16

ups and downs of my hormones. Do you

4:18

feel that way too? 1000%,

4:20

I feel every single emotion you could possibly think of. I feel

4:23

it to my bones. I know

4:25

everything. I know even before my app tells

4:27

me what I'm gonna feel tomorrow. So

4:31

great, yep. Would you say you're in tune with your body

4:33

then? 1000s, and I never used

4:35

to be, but after having Gigi, I swear

4:37

I can feel like, I know, but a

4:39

week before my period, seven days before I'm

4:41

eating, the entire house, and I cannot, I

4:44

can't, it just doesn't touch my stomach, like

4:46

I'm constantly hungry, and I would check my period up and

4:48

be like, yep, I knew I was like a week, a

4:50

week out, and then a couple of days beforehand, I go

4:52

off me, or I go, and then I just, I know

4:54

it. I can feel everything, and I don't know if that's

4:56

like a post-kids thing, but I can

4:58

just, I feel everything. Well, that's the next question

5:01

I was gonna ask you. After you had Gigi,

5:03

was it different? Totally, because I was on the

5:05

pill when I was a teenager, and I feel

5:07

like that masked quite a few things, and when

5:09

I kind of got off that and tried to

5:12

get my hormones and get my period back on

5:14

balance, that was a really tricky time. I didn't

5:16

really understand that, but after having Gigi, I feel

5:18

like everything just flowed better. Does

5:21

that make sense? It's a bit of a weird one, but

5:23

I definitely can tell where I am in my cycle from

5:25

just the way I wake up every day. I

5:28

think even as your sister, you were

5:30

talking about hormones this week, and we're not

5:33

necessarily just talking about periods, we're talking about

5:35

hormones and how they fluctuate, and

5:37

what I like about you is that you're very aware

5:39

of your hormones and what they do to you, and

5:41

one of the things that they do to you is

5:43

they send you into this bit of a sad spiral

5:46

coming up to your period where you choose to watch

5:48

soldiers coming home from war videos, like you actually choose

5:50

to sit, like dogs coming back from the pound that

5:52

were actually meant for their family, you choose to watch

5:54

videos that make you cry, but you also have this

5:57

thing that you call a power cry. So when

5:59

you... feel your hormones getting too much. You

6:01

just literally announce that you get up to

6:03

everybody and say, this is my sister. She

6:05

stands up. She goes, I got to go have a power cry and

6:07

then I'll be back. And she leaves, goes,

6:10

has what she calls a power

6:12

cry and returns to the table

6:14

like nothing happened. But like instead

6:16

of bottling those emotions, instead of

6:18

bottling up at what you feel,

6:21

you very much say, I need to

6:23

cry. Goodbye. I'll be back in a second. Well, in the

6:25

end, it's like crying gets it out and you just, you've

6:27

got to do it anyway. You may as well just do

6:29

it. Have three minutes where you just hysterically cry and you're

6:31

like, well, it's going to end and then they are, okay,

6:33

done. Wipe away and then you go and you feel a

6:36

lot better because you've just gotten it out and then you sit

6:38

back down the table and everyone just looks in and you're

6:41

like, it's just great. Like you just feel,

6:44

you just feel just fresh. If

6:46

that's what I'm, if you still feel sad, then

6:48

you also laugh so that it makes you feel

6:50

like, yeah, that's my sister's way of dealing with

6:52

things. But honestly, I think it's a good thing

6:54

because people are so scared to show emotion. They're

6:56

so scared to cry. They're so scared to say

6:58

their hormonal or say that they're feeling all these

7:00

hormones in their body, trying to suppress

7:03

that feeling and not show that even though it's

7:05

so normal and part of your cycle. I like

7:07

that you stand up and you're like, no, I

7:09

need to cry. It might be

7:11

over absolutely nothing. Oh, it's absolutely over nothing. 99%

7:13

of the time it's over absolutely nothing. But you

7:15

feel great after. 100%. And you know what makes

7:18

me laugh lately? Mitch, he now

7:20

thinks that he's in tune with my

7:22

cycle too. He's like, oh, I'm just

7:24

feeling really moody. Oh, get lost. Mitch

7:26

is the biggest hypochondriac. If Leah's sick,

7:28

Mitch is sicker. Leah's food poisoning. Mitch

7:30

gets food poisoning suddenly as well. He

7:33

hasn't even eaten the same food. I

7:35

just finished my period and he was

7:37

like, oh, glad that's over. And

7:39

I'm like, what for? And he's like, just

7:41

because now I feel better. I'm like, now

7:43

you feel better? Is that what I feel?

7:45

Thank you for real. So one of the,

7:47

honestly, I truly believe that if you're with

7:49

your partner long enough, you can sync your

7:51

cycle with them, even if they are of

7:53

the opposite sex. I honestly feel that it's

7:56

like sympathy pains or sympathy, whatever it is.

7:58

Happens in pregnancy can happen during I'm

8:00

guessing. So Mitch, you get a free pass. So

8:07

are you currently on any

8:09

sort of birth control? Now I'm not. No,

8:11

I haven't been on anything for, I think I got off

8:13

it when I was like 22, three,

8:16

23, maybe? I'm 29

8:18

now, so I've only been on it for a long time. And

8:21

when you were on it, how did you feel and why did you

8:23

go off it? I've actually been on,

8:25

obviously it's been a while, but I reckon

8:27

I was on like the contraceptive pill. I

8:29

went on Estelle. I was on Diane. I

8:31

think Levelyn. Yes. I

8:33

think there's all names, there's all names of

8:35

them all. And I did not

8:37

handle any of them. Absolutely any of them. I got

8:39

on and off because they made me

8:42

feel like brain fog for

8:44

one, depression for another,

8:46

really bad anxiety. I remember being really

8:48

tired and really just lethargic. All of

8:51

those things I had. And every time

8:53

I went back to the doctor saying

8:55

this isn't working, it was another, just try

8:57

this one or try this one or try that one. So yeah, I've

9:00

been off of them for a long time and I feel

9:02

a hell of a lot better. What are the things

9:04

you felt instantly as you came off the birth control pill?

9:07

It's going to be something crazy, but almost like a bit

9:09

of a relief. And that's just on an emotional standpoint,

9:11

like a relief that I didn't have to take something every

9:13

day. I didn't have to double take

9:15

if I forgot a day or I didn't have

9:17

to feel like something would go wrong if I

9:19

didn't know my skin was going to get worse

9:22

or whatever. It was definite relief. But also coming

9:24

off, I did feel a lot of my brain

9:26

fog lift. I remember

9:28

feeling like a lot fresher and

9:30

I feel like I just felt like almost

9:32

like a new person. I don't know

9:34

what it was. It was a long time ago. We're talking almost like

9:37

six years ago. I don't know. But I just remember being like, oh,

9:39

what a relief. That I don't have to do that anymore. And

9:42

then I didn't have it. Obviously wasn't on it for a

9:44

while. Had GG and I still refused to get back on

9:46

it. I'm like, nope, I'm not. I just don't want to

9:48

do it. How do you feel about hormones? Do you, are

9:50

you a person that tends to blame your hormones for a

9:52

lot of the things that are happening in your body? Or

9:54

do you just see them as just part of your body?

9:56

And that just it is what it is. I think

9:59

I'm lucky in the way. I just think it is

10:01

what it is. However, post having GG, I

10:03

feel like a different person. I felt a

10:05

bit older. Pre GG, I feel like maybe I'd

10:07

be confused when it came to hormones. I

10:10

didn't know what that means. If you say, oh, are you a

10:12

hormone? I'm like, what? What do you mean? I don't know what

10:14

hormonal means. I just get my period every month. Isn't that normal?

10:16

I feel like now I'm more in tune with that. And that's

10:18

actually a good thing rather than a bad thing. And I can

10:20

work with my hormones and work with my body. Whereas before when

10:23

I felt younger, I was a bit like, I don't know what

10:25

that means. That's too confusing for me. I

10:28

think it's same. And I will say that

10:30

when people were saying things like cortisol and

10:32

estrogen and progesterone, I was like, Oh, no,

10:35

like back in the day, I was like, I

10:37

have no idea what that is. I don't care.

10:39

Just fix my period pain. I don't care about

10:41

this estrogen and progesterone or whatever other things that

10:43

you're saying. I don't care. I just want a

10:45

neurofen or a panadol to stop the pain. Like

10:47

I'm not managing this. And now that I've had

10:49

two kids, when people say that stuff, I know

10:52

what the hormone is. I know what it's responsible

10:54

for. And I know that it takes a lot

10:56

to throw it out. And it might actually be

10:58

some other factors that are stressing

11:00

me out. Like how much work I have or

11:02

the kids or how much sleep I've had. It's

11:05

not necessarily my cortisol levels are high. Yeah. You

11:07

know, I probably didn't have enough sleep that night.

11:09

And that's probably just a simpler reason than your

11:12

cortisol levels. Yeah. I just think that education wasn't

11:14

there. Definitely wasn't there. When I went on the

11:16

pill, I don't remember. I wouldn't even remember what

11:18

they told me if anything. I don't

11:20

think the doctors did say anything. I don't think

11:22

they did educate you back in

11:25

the day on what the pill is,

11:27

what hormone has in it, how that interacts

11:30

with the body, the side effects. Obviously, when

11:32

you're asking for something or whether they're recommending

11:34

something, like they do give you the high

11:36

level side effects. But really, it's the high

11:38

level side effects at the time. It's not

11:40

long term side effects. So

11:46

let's just set the mood here. You're on

11:48

your period. You are feeling like absolute

11:51

junk. You don't want to work out.

11:53

You're super hungry. You want some comfort

11:55

food. What are you turning to in

11:57

your period? Because I know it's not

11:59

chocolate. and most people turn to chocolate.

12:01

So what is your period

12:03

food? My go-to period

12:06

food is pasta, and

12:08

more specifically, an olive

12:10

pasta. Olive with red sauce pasta. I

12:12

have got it down to a fine

12:15

art that I can make it genuinely.

12:17

While the pasta water boils, I can

12:19

make the whole sauce and have it

12:21

done and have everything ready at 15

12:23

minutes, done. My face is scrunched up

12:25

right now. I think it's nothing worse

12:27

than eating cooked olives in a pasta

12:29

sauce. Let's call it Puttanesca to make

12:31

people feel better about themselves. Yeah, no

12:33

taxivis. The Puttanesca vibes

12:35

where there's cooked olives. That's

12:38

all I want. I'm so happy for you. A

12:40

bowl of parmesan cheese on top of it. And

12:43

then no meat because meat is off when I

12:45

have my period. I want to get as far

12:47

away from that as possible. And then I'll just,

12:50

that's what I want. That's what I

12:52

want. Puttanesca, just like a soul food.

12:54

Puttanesca, I love that food. Salty, delicious

12:56

food. That's what I want. Is

12:58

meat something that affects you if you don't eat it

13:00

for a week? Do you supplement with anything else? It's

13:02

really tricky because I do have meat. I just have

13:04

it in certain ways that I can manage. I don't

13:06

know what it is, but I look at it, I'm

13:08

like, yuck, I would never have a

13:11

mince in my period. That is filth, but I love

13:13

it. As soon as my period ends, I'm like, give

13:15

me the meatballs. So I just have to work with

13:17

myself. What I do supplement with that does help my

13:19

period is magnesium. Not only for my

13:21

sleep, because it does help me with

13:23

my insomnia. Cause when I wake up, if my tummy hurts

13:25

a little bit, restless legs, I do get restless legs in

13:27

my period. So that helps me a lot. We have that

13:29

in our hot chocolate. So I have that every night. And

13:31

that is like a thing that I cannot miss in

13:34

my period because I know that that

13:36

will help everything else. I'm

13:38

ignoring your meat question, but. So I

13:40

know, I know. Leah does, yes. Leah

13:42

does have a supplement company called Yes

13:44

Please. And they have the most amazing

13:46

hot chocolate. And I will vouch for

13:48

you. Do have one of those hot

13:51

chocolates every single night. And you're very,

13:53

very routine with it, especially around your

13:55

period. So if you could take out

13:57

anything from this, track your

13:59

period cycle. If you are on birth control,

14:01

make sure that you are really logging and

14:03

writing down your symptoms in case you have

14:05

anything come up that you're not aware of.

14:07

I think have the pastor, definitely have the

14:09

pastor, questionable about the olives, whatever, but yeah,

14:12

definitely have the pastor. And some

14:14

magnesium can really help. So get on all

14:16

of that. So Leah, thank you so much

14:18

for coming on. It's been awesome. Thank you

14:20

for having me. Thank you

14:23

for having me. Thank you for

14:25

having me. We learned so much this

14:27

week. So I'm just going to say this

14:29

one thing. I want you to

14:31

take one learning from this

14:33

week about hormones and try and apply it

14:35

to your life. Maybe it's doing one of

14:38

Shoda's beautiful meditations to calm down your body

14:40

and brain, or maybe it's setting up a

14:42

period tracker to learn more about your cycle

14:45

up to you, but I want you to

14:47

try and prioritize yourself and see how it

14:49

impacts your weakness. And

14:52

to my sweat daily listeners out there, I

14:54

hope you found this week as helpful as

14:56

I have. Guess what? You are one week

14:58

closer to achieving your health and wellbeing goals.

15:01

So I am so, so proud of you

15:03

for taking time out of your day to

15:05

prioritize yourself and your health. So go into

15:07

this weekend, keep everything that you've learned in

15:09

mind and come back next week refreshed and

15:12

ready for a new topic. Now we're going

15:14

to be talking about all things stress, what

15:16

it's doing to us and how to overcome

15:18

it. Sweat

15:24

daily is hosted by me, Kayla Itzienes, and

15:26

is a co-production of Story Glass and Sweat.

15:29

Our Thursday meditation sessions are written and hosted

15:31

by Shona Virtue. Executive producers

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15:35

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