Shakil Choudhury, is an award-winning educator and consultant with more than 20 years of international experience in the field of diversity, equity, and inclusion. He’s worked with thousands of organizational leaders across sectors in Canada and the United States to, as he says, “help them improve their equity outcomes.” 

 His new book, Deep Diversity: A compassionate scientific approach to achieving racial justice has been called “a highly significant contribution to the struggle against racism in our society” and “a moving, powerful look at how to address issues of both ‘head’ and ‘heart’ in engaging in diversity conversations that promise real and lasting change.”

 We spoke to him from his home in Toronto.  

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