Learning to teach math teachers better with Anthony Fernandes, Associate Professor of Mathematics Education at the University of North Carolina - Charlotte, as he shares his experiences and advice on being a mathematics teacher educator. Anthony also shares his experiences with languages/communication and how he and colleagues have considered how to use data to help preservice teachers investigate systemic racism within their mathematics methods courses.Interested in using the modules Anthonly described in the episode send him an email to afernan2 AT uncc.eduLinks from the episode:Center for the Mathematics Education of Latinos/as (https://cemela.math.arizona.edu/)AMTE Equity Committee Site (https://amte.net/content/equity-committee-0)TODOS 2023 Conference (https://www.todos-math.org/conference)Mathematics Teacher Educator Podcast (https://mtepodcast.amte.net/) Special Guest: Anthony Fernandes.