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Ted Audio Collective. Talking
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about AI feels like falling down a rabbit
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hole sometimes. It's easy to
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dig deep into ideas like neural networks
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and machine learning, or complex concepts like
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algorithms and big data. But
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in the process, we lose sight
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of one of the most important parts of
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the conversation. How AI
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tangibly affects our everyday lives.
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If we were to explain AI to a
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six-year-old, or someone like
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my 92-year-old grandfather, we
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might just point to everyday tools
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we use. For instance, Siri
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and Alexa on our smartphones and devices.
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That's AI. Or
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the way our favorite music streaming service knows
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exactly which songs to recommend based
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on our listening history. Well, that's
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also AI. It's
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true that AI is a tool that
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we deliberately and intentionally use, and
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that this technology is constantly developing.
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But AI's everyday integration into our
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lives is what makes it a
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real revelation, both in our
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present and our future. I'm
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Shirelle Dorsey, and this is TED Tech.
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Microsoft AI CEO Mustafa
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Suleiman is one
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of the primary architects of the AI models many
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of us use today. He
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takes to the TED stage to share his
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Business management made simple. Sometimes,
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things in the world of technology
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are complicated and need careful explaining.
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Sometimes, they just need a little hard truth.
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I don't think anyone is going to buy
3:12
a banana with crypto at any point in
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the foreseeable future. I'm Lizzie
3:16
O'Leary, the host of Slate's What Next?
3:18
TBD, your clear-eyed guide to technology, power,
3:21
and the future, Friday and Sunday, wherever
3:23
you get your podcasts. I
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want to tell you what I see coming. I've
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been lucky enough to be working on AI for
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almost 15 years now. Back
3:37
when I started, to describe it
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as fringe would be an understatement.
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Researchers would say, no, no, we're only working
3:45
on machine learning, because working on AI was
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seen as way too out there. In
3:49
2010, just the very
3:51
mention of the phrase AGI,
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artificial general intelligence, would
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get you some seriously strange looks, and
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even a cold shoulder. You're
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actually building AGI, people would
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say. Isn't that something out of
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science fiction? People thought it was 50
4:07
years away or 100 years away if it was
4:09
even possible at all. Talk of
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AI was, I guess, kind of
4:13
embarrassing. People generally thought we
4:16
were weird. And I guess in some ways we kind
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of were. It wasn't long though
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before AI started beating humans at a whole
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range of tasks that people previously thought were
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way out of reach. Understanding
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images, translating languages,
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transcribing speech, playing
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Go and chess, and even
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diagnosing diseases. People started waking
4:36
up to the fact that AI was going
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to have an enormous impact. And they
4:40
were rightly asking technologists like me some
4:43
pretty tough questions. Is it
4:45
true that AI is going to solve the
4:47
climate crisis? Will it make personalized education available
4:49
to everyone? Does it mean we'll all
4:51
get universal basic income and we won't have to work anymore?
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Should I be afraid? What does it
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mean for weapons and war? And of
4:58
course, will China win? Are we in a race? Are
5:01
we headed for a mass misinformation
5:04
apocalypse? All good questions.
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But it was actually a simpler and much
5:09
more kind of fundamental question that left me
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puzzled. One that actually gets
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to the very heart of my work every
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day. One morning over
5:18
breakfast, my six-year-old nephew,
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Caspian, was playing with Pi, the
5:22
AI I created at my last company, Inflection.
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With a mouthful of scrambled eggs, he
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looked at me plain in the face and said, but
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Mustafa, what is an AI
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anyway? He's such
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a sincere and curious and optimistic little guy.
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He'd been talking to Pi about how cool
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it would be if one day in the
5:42
future he could visit dinosaurs
5:44
at the zoo and how he could make
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infinite amounts of chocolate at home. And
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why Pi couldn't yet play I Spy? Well,
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I said it's a clever piece of software that's read
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most of the text on the open Internet and it
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can talk to you about anything you want. Right!
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So like a person, then. I
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was stumped, genuinely left scratching
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my head. All my
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boring stock answers came rushing through
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my mind. No, but
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AI is just another general-purpose technology, like
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printing or steam. It'll
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be a tool that will augment us and
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make us smarter and more productive. And
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when it gets better over time, it'll
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be like an all-knowing oracle that will
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help us solve grand scientific challenges. You
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know, all of these responses started to feel,
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I guess, a little bit
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defensive, and actually better suited
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to a policy seminar than breakfast with a
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no-nonsense six-year-old. Why am
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I hesitating, I thought to myself? You
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know, let's be honest. My
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nephew was asking me a simple question
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that those of us in AI just
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don't confront often enough. What
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is it that we are actually creating?
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What does it mean to make something
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totally new, fundamentally
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different to any invention that we
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have known before? It
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is clear that we are at an inflection
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point in the history of humanity. On
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our current trajectory, we're headed
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towards the emergence of something that we
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are all struggling to describe. And
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yet, we cannot control what
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we don't understand. And
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so the metaphors, the mental models,
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the names, these all
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matter if we are to get the most
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out of AI whilst limiting its potential downsides.
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As someone who embraces the possibilities of
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this technology, but who has also
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always cared deeply about its ethics, we
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should, I think, be able to easily describe
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what it is we are building, and
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that includes the six-year-olds. So
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it's in that spirit that I offer up
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today the following metaphor for
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helping us to try to grapple with what this
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moment really is. I think
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AI should best be understood as
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something like a new digital...
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digital species. Now
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don't take this too literally, but
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I predict that we'll come to see them as
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digital companions, new partners
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in the journeys of all our lives. Whether
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you think we're on a 10, 20, or
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30 year path here, this
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is in my view the most accurate and
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most fundamentally honest way
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of describing what's actually coming. And
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above all, it enables everybody to
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prepare for and shape what
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comes next. Now I totally
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get this as a strong claim and I'm going to
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explain to everyone as best I can why I'm making
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it. But first, let me just try
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to set the context. From
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the very first microscopic organisms, life
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on earth stretches back billions of
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years. Over that time, life
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evolved and diversified. Then
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a few million years ago, something
8:52
began to shift. After
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countless cycles of growth and adaptation,
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one of life's branches began
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using tools. And that branch grew
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into us. We went on
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to produce a mesmerizing variety of
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tools. At first
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slowly, and then with astonishing speed,
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we went from stone axes and fire
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to language, writing, and
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eventually industrial technologies. One
9:20
invention unleashed a thousand more and
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in time we became homo
9:26
technologicus. Around 80
9:28
years ago, another new branch of technology
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began. With the invention of computers,
9:32
we quickly jumped from the first mainframes
9:35
and transistors to today's
9:37
smartphones and virtual reality headsets.
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Information, knowledge, communication,
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computation. In
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this revolution, creation has
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exploded like never before and
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now a new wave is upon us, artificial
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intelligence. These waves
9:55
of history are clearly speeding up
9:57
as each one is amplified and
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accelerated. by the last. And
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if you look back, it's clear that
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we are in the fastest and most
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consequential wave ever. The journeys
10:08
of humanity and technology are
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now deeply intertwined. In
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just 18 months, over a
10:14
billion people have used large language models. We've
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witnessed one landmark event after
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another. Just a few
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years ago, people said that AI would never be
10:24
creative, and yet AI now
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feels like an endless river of creativity,
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making poetry and images and music
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and video that stretch the imagination.
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People said it would never be empathetic, and
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yet today, millions of people
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enjoy meaningful conversations with AIs,
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talking about their hopes and dreams and
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helping them work through difficult emotional challenges.
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AIs can now drive cars, manage
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energy grids, and even invent new
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molecules. Just a few years ago, each
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of these was impossible. And
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all of this is turbocharged
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by spiraling exponentials of data
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and computation. Last
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year, Inflection 2.5, our last model, used
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five billion times more
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computation than the DeepMind
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AI that beat the old school Atari
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games just over 10 years ago. That's
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nine orders of magnitude more
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computation, 10x per year, every
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year, for almost a decade. Over
11:27
the same time, the size of these models
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has grown, from first tens of millions of
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parameters, to then billions of parameters, and
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very soon, tens of trillions of
11:36
parameters. If someone did nothing but
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read 24 hours a day for
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their entire life, they'd consume eight
11:43
billion words. And of course, that's
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a lot of words. But
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today, the most advanced AIs
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consume more than eight trillion
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words in a single month
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