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this far? They say money can't

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ado, here is episode A 68

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Chronic wet disease

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tearing me apart from Hello, and welcome to textual

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novels. I am your co host Margie

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and I'm your co host Rachel

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every other week one of us reads

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and summarizes a romance novel

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for the other unsuspecting co

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host this week. That co host is

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Rachel me. If you though Mido it

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you don't and together we unpack

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what the fuck just happened. Be

3:21

like my little like stripping. I

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was good to do. Um, so listeners

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I'm just gonna warn you. I had a

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I had a day or I had a day.

3:34

That's okay. We're gonna

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we're gonna do some healing

3:37

romance. jobling and this

3:39

book is not horrible. It

3:39

is a ride. It is certainly a

3:43

ride.

3:44

Oh, is it a spa? Yeah.

3:44

Alright. Hey, what's up man?

3:47

I've already hit you

3:47

with the with the book. You

3:50

have.

3:51

Is there a story as to

3:51

how you got it? Or is it just a

3:53

smile?

3:54

On my bookshelf? I think

3:54

a friend gave it to me. I don't

3:58

remember who I'm sorry. It might

3:58

have been my brother. I don't

4:05

know like go this Yeah, like a

4:07

good I'm not gonna say

4:10

clap Oh my god. Okay, so

4:10

there's this looks like I'm not

4:14

gonna say it's a classic a

4:14

textual tension because it

4:18

doesn't involve like Atlantis or

4:18

some crazy like that but it is

4:21

like a solid like, Okay, we have

4:21

accidentally yours with spy

4:26

Susan Mallory whose name is not

4:26

only much larger than the title

4:30

but also in the center of the

4:30

book and the title is underneath

4:35

it.

4:36

I also want to fire the

4:36

person who created that font. I

4:39

really hate it. It's like the

4:39

accidentally yours. Yeah, on his

4:43

I tend to personally Yeah, yeah.

4:46

I'd also like to, to

4:46

have a discussion with the

4:51

graphic designer who put a

4:51

bright orange background. Yep.

4:56

With a woman and a dude. Back to

4:56

Back with their faces facing

5:02

like turned to face the camera

5:02

cut off from the nose up

5:05

naturally because we have to

5:05

protect these at these models

5:08

anonymity. She is wearing a like

5:08

fuchsia dress against a bright

5:16

orange background, which is

5:16

horrible. Yeah. So it's so

5:19

visually pleasing. Yeah. And

5:19

he's in a suit with what looks

5:23

like a crow bot. He's got a

5:23

massive neck piece on and she

5:27

has like a cocktail olive on a

5:27

stick, which I have to assume is

5:30

a euphemism for his balls. Oh,

5:30

it was a lollipop. No, dude,

5:35

that's an olive. Oh, it

5:36

isn't all right.

5:38

Mallory's prose is

5:38

luscious and provocative. Not

5:43

about this book. It's about her

5:43

other book sizzling also Margie.

5:46

I accidentally clicked on the

5:46

audio book and I don't know if

5:49

he worked on any of the other

5:49

covers for this.

5:54

Oh,

5:55

can I just say that the

5:55

audio book cover is a dude that

5:59

looks nothing like the dude and

5:59

the other one as it not even the

6:01

same hair color like different

6:01

skin tone everything's

6:04

different. laying in a bed

6:04

looking like he's like getting

6:09

up because he heard someone

6:09

didn't break into his house.

6:12

Very different vibe without a

6:12

shirt on but he is wearing

6:15

tighty whities

6:17

such a different vibe

6:17

much

6:20

much different oh god

6:23

okay neither

6:24

of these are really all

6:24

all that accurate good good yeah

6:29

all right yeah,

6:30

let's let's hit that description.

6:32

Yeah wanted

6:35

single moms seeks

6:35

billionaires pocketbook to fund

6:38

dying sons research care good if

6:38

necessary black male is not out

6:48

of the question miracles

6:48

welcome. Oh, Sweet Jesus cynical

6:52

billionaire seeks working mom

6:52

with a heart of gold for PR

6:56

campaign to improve his stance

6:56

against the community must be

7:00

willing to attend social events.

7:00

Anyone looking for love need not

7:03

apply? It seems like the perfect

7:03

match until the unthinkable

7:07

happens what they fall in love

7:07

and it becomes more of a perfect

7:10

match. Okay,

7:12

it's the end then they

7:12

become accidentally yours.

7:16

Mine. I don't want them.

7:20

Here's my first critique

7:20

of the book they're going to be

7:23

my first critique is there's

7:23

nothing accidental that happens

7:26

in this book. Everything is very

7:26

pushed in plant.

7:30

So I find it interesting

7:30

that last episode involves a

7:33

single father and in this case,

7:33

it involves a single mother.

7:37

That is there are so

7:37

many more books about single

7:39

moms and single that's it so so

7:39

yes, so many books about single

7:44

moms out there.

7:45

Would you call Casio a

7:45

dad? Yeah. So he is a person who

7:49

is a father. He is not a father figure.

7:53

There you go.

7:54

Are they gonna cure cancer in this book?

7:56

They are not going to

7:56

we'll get into that they do not

7:58

cure cancer. Okay.

8:00

Now I'm afraid for the

8:00

next part, which is the

8:02

triggers. Is there any child

8:02

death? So many

8:07

so much. Yeah, there's

8:07

there's child death. So the

8:13

triggers are murder, suicide,

8:13

child illness, child death,

8:17

suicide ideation and gun

8:17

violence.

8:26

Take things I wasn't

8:26

expecting. Like 500. Please,

8:31

Alex. Wow, I would not have put

8:31

any of those. Okay. Like one or

8:38

two of those on this list? Yeah,

8:38

not Oh, God. Yep.

8:43

Okay. Yep. Yep. Yep. You

8:43

ready for it? Sure. Color color.

8:48

Okay, surprised. So we've got

8:48

our leads Carrie Sullivan, who

8:52

was a young single mom, her

8:52

husband died. I think in

8:56

Afghanistan. This book was

8:56

written in 2008. So

8:59

okay, yeah, I'm

8:59

Afghanistan time and literally,

9:03

her husband died. She

9:03

got super super super depressed,

9:08

nearly killed herself and then

9:08

found out like the next day

9:12

after she didn't kill herself

9:12

that she was pregnant. So

9:16

I don't know if that's a

9:16

good thing or not. Yep, I know.

9:20

I know. But I'll say that's not

9:20

because Right. Not the greatest

9:24

mental headspace for that to

9:24

happen in but okay.

9:27

Well, so she is a

9:27

fantastic mom. She loves her son

9:30

Cody to death would literally do

9:30

anything for him, which is a

9:34

good thing because he is now

9:34

nine years old. And he was

9:39

dying. He has now been diagnosed

9:39

with this disease called

9:42

Gilliard disease, which is super

9:42

painful and super fatal. And

9:49

those are the only two

9:49

descriptions that we really get

9:52

from the book. Oh, and it's it's

9:52

supposedly makes you like super

9:55

physically weak,

9:56

not just your regular

9:56

fatal Yeah, super

10:00

So I actually texted my

10:00

friend who he's training to be a

10:04

physician's assistant and then

10:04

my cousin who he is becoming a

10:10

doctor, and neither of them had

10:10

really heard of this disease. It

10:13

doesn't truly exist from the

10:13

googling that I did. Um, it

10:18

could it could be related or in

10:18

reference to another disease

10:22

called Gilbert's

10:25

disease. Could it be on

10:25

Blu Ray, or gamma ray? That

10:29

would be my guess.

10:31

Is that Is he on Blu

10:31

Ray, but Well, yeah, then it

10:34

wasn't an exact thing. So but it

10:34

doesn't really matter. Yeah. So

10:38

um, carry it has blond hair,

10:38

blue eyes, totally drop dead

10:43

gorgeous. Nach, nach. Then we

10:43

got Nathan king. He's rich,

10:48

tall, dark and handsome. Rich

10:48

with curly dark hair. I think he

10:53

has blue eyes and he's rich. If

10:53

he is right, he has the

11:00

reputation of having a heart as

11:00

cold as ice and he's rich. Oh,

11:04

okay. Did they mention that he's right.

11:07

So interesting note, due

11:07

to the front cover is not tall,

11:10

dark and handsome. No fact he is

11:10

hella like, light blonde. And

11:15

I don't think well, I

11:15

should say, is described as

11:19

tall, dark and handsome, though.

11:19

I know what I described as tall

11:23

with dark hair. Okay. And blue

11:23

eyes. All right. Hmm.

11:27

Interesting. Yep. All right. So

11:27

we open to the grill, which is a

11:32

restaurant in Seattle, where

11:32

Carrie is working as a waitress.

11:37

It's only her third day on the

11:37

job and she's absolutely awful

11:41

at it. She really actually only

11:41

came here for one purpose, which

11:45

is to stalk Nathan King.

11:50

Okay, crazy. Yeah,

11:50

yeah. Oh,

11:55

so I have a question

11:55

real quick. You say young? How

11:57

young? Is she? Like early 20s.

11:57

Late 20s. Late 20s. Okay. Yeah,

12:02

late 20s. I

12:03

think he's like early to

12:03

mid 30s. Okay, yeah. So Nathan

12:08

King arrives at the grill. And

12:08

Carrie takes us takes this

12:12

table, where she plops a mini

12:12

DVD player down in front of the

12:17

iPad. Which plays a DVD about a

12:17

research study being done on

12:23

gillers disease by a doctor

12:23

Abram Wallace. Are you still

12:27

there?

12:28

I still here I'm just

12:28

thinking,

12:31

Oh, yes. Welcome to the

12:31

restaurant restaurant, where we

12:35

serve the best restaurant food,

12:35

food, canned food.

12:39

It's like It's like chai tea.

12:42

Chai Tea Tea twice. It's

12:42

what white people call tea

12:46

twice.

12:48

The ground so good. All

12:48

right. But she plops down this

12:52

DVD player in front of upstairs

12:52

playing the DVD. And it's about

12:56

this cure for gillers disease

12:56

that was be developed by Dr.

12:59

Abram Wallace. The research

12:59

study was the only chance of

13:03

killing or curing, curing not

13:03

killing gillers disease and the

13:08

lab where the research was being

13:08

conducted exploded recently.

13:14

What is wrong with this

13:14

woman? Do you ever just sit and

13:17

think maybe it's you

13:21

her fault, the lab exploded,

13:23

I know. But like,

13:25

there's a difference

13:25

between interesting things

13:28

happening in a person's life in

13:28

a book to like, you know,

13:31

progress the story and well, so

13:31

her husband died and then she

13:36

got pregnant. Cuz after she

13:36

almost killed herself and then

13:39

her kid turns out to have this

13:39

horrible disease and then the

13:42

lab exploded. Okay, that

13:42

escalated quickly.

13:47

It's worse because like,

13:47

she moved to this particular

13:50

really small town outside of

13:50

Seattle, just to get him care at

13:54

this lot. Her son care at this

13:54

lab, and then the lab exploded.

13:59

I shouldn't be laughing.

13:59

This is actually terrible. And I

14:02

know she like this happens to

14:02

real people. And it's awful.

14:05

But in particular.

14:09

So yeah, you know, so

14:09

carry. So Kerry's basically

14:14

begging Nathan King to fund the

14:14

project. And she's like, I want

14:18

you to do this for $15 million.

14:18

Remember, they're in a

14:21

restaurant. She just plopped a

14:21

DVD down and player down in

14:25

front of him and is now asking

14:25

him for $15 million.

14:30

Actually, that's how you're gonna get your first husband right. I wouldn't even

14:31

get to work at the restaurant

14:36

restaurant. Just gonna show

14:39

you better work bitch.

14:41

Give me 15 million give

14:41

me busy for my son. You don't

14:44

have a son. I have a child holds

14:44

up Athena. She's bears

14:48

chronically wet. Chronic wet

14:48

disease.

14:54

life threatening.

14:57

God, she's going to

14:57

drown

15:00

around. We're just

15:00

waiting for the

15:04

neither of This is

15:04

getting weird y'all neither of

15:07

us have been drinking I swear. Oh,

15:09

just crazy. Okay. All

15:09

right. So, but Carrie does have

15:14

a strong reason to believe that

15:14

Nathan would do this. She didn't

15:18

just pick. She picked this

15:18

specific billionaire for a

15:21

reason. You know? Yeah, um, and

15:21

it's because Nathan's own son

15:27

died of Villiers disease six

15:27

years earlier.

15:52

Gentlemen, became a

15:52

shitty waitress at the

15:56

restaurant Bar Grill. kept a DVD

15:56

in front of a billionaire who

16:06

guarantee six years isn't long

16:06

enough for him to get over the

16:09

loss of his child at dinner.

16:14

front of other people, too.

16:17

Crazy Lady made me

16:17

relive my son's death one star

16:24

so, so like, you know,

16:24

shocker. It doesn't work. No

16:31

need them is Yuri. Yes. And

16:31

Karis quote unquote boss because

16:37

she's only been at this job for

16:37

three days kicks her out of the

16:39

restaurant. And when Carrie sees

16:39

Nathan walk out of the

16:44

restaurant, she gives it one

16:44

last ask she's like, why won't

16:47

you do this? Just give the

16:47

money? No, no, you right? And

16:52

they've been responds, my son is

16:52

dead. So why should I care about

16:57

yours? That is

16:58

not what a normal human

16:58

would respond with. But

17:02

okay, none of this is

17:02

what a normal human would do.

17:06

No, no.

17:08

This is this is on earth

17:08

to

17:10

Yeah, this is on

17:10

separate Yars shit. Yeah, yeah.

17:14

Yars like a deep cut, yeah, it

17:14

is. Let it call the ER. Alright,

17:24

so pitches that was in the

17:24

Seattle area Carrie returns home

17:29

to song would wear

17:31

um, how far away from

17:31

Seattle? His song would

17:34

I think it's not far but

17:34

I don't know. There's I think

17:37

it's she can drive to and from

17:37

pretty easily. So I'm assuming

17:40

under an hour,

17:41

most unrealistic thing

17:41

about this entire book is she

17:44

has been a waitress for three

17:44

days and can afford that right?

17:47

Yeah. Um, but she does

17:47

have she does have another job

17:51

job. She just moved. Yeah. So

17:51

this town is also really sad

17:56

though. Just as a side note,

17:56

because like the research study

17:59

that was being done, there was a

17:59

lot of like, that's where a lot

18:02

of the economic prosperity for

18:02

this town was coming from. And

18:05

so a lot of people moved out a

18:05

lot of stores closed down and

18:09

it's just a very sad town now.

18:11

Yeah. I cope with

18:11

depressing awful shit through

18:15

humor. So strap the fuckin for

18:15

the next little bit.

18:18

Because what the

18:19

Yeah, what's happening

18:19

right. Oh, he so he's here. He

18:22

is disappointed by what happened

18:22

but she's determined she's not

18:26

giving up. She goes to like, see

18:26

her friend Linda and Linda

18:31

actually worked with Dr. Wallace

18:31

at the Research Institute. So

18:35

she Linda and carry up with

18:35

prints for a while. And her

18:39

Glinda gives Carrie actually

18:39

some really great, great advice.

18:44

Life, just straight up lied to

18:44

the press until the King agreed

18:49

to give the $15 million for

18:49

research for failures disease.

18:52

I have a couple of

18:52

questions. Yeah. One. What is

18:56

gonna make the press believe her? She is

18:58

he had she she had

18:58

letterhead from his office. Oh,

19:03

so

19:03

she's an extra special

19:03

level of crazy. Yeah. Good.

19:06

Yeah, fantastic. Yeah, too. And

19:06

this is actually something kind

19:10

of interesting. I do find the no

19:10

is pleased means please convince

19:17

me thing flipped a little bit

19:17

with her. Him saying no, LLP it.

19:23

I don't think that was the

19:23

author's intention. However,

19:26

right is interesting to see

19:29

through. Um, so she does

19:29

that. She goes to the press and

19:34

she has like a letterhead from

19:34

his company saying like, I'm

19:37

going to donate $15 million for

19:37

this research. And this is bad

19:42

for King because King kind of

19:42

needs good press right now

19:46

because he is working on a huge

19:46

housing development for the 1%

19:50

that was going to be built

19:50

somewhere around Seattle, like

19:52

on like, yeah, and he needs good

19:52

press in order to get the

19:56

building permits and keep the

19:56

community happy with him enough

19:59

to allow to build these big gas

19:59

towers,

20:02

well, he needs that

20:02

because he is probably uprooting

20:05

several Native American

20:05

indigenous Americans Yeah,

20:09

burial grounds right or to do it

20:09

and also probably has to make a

20:12

couple puppy sacrifices in order

20:12

to really get that foundation

20:15

solid.

20:16

Also there, there's an

20:16

environmentalist group that's

20:19

already against him, like

20:19

doesn't want him to build these

20:22

towers. And a, an even his own

20:22

sister is against him. It

20:29

doesn't want him to build these towers.

20:31

If this book does not

20:31

end with him not building those

20:33

towers,

20:34

I'm gonna free. Good a

20:34

break.

20:39

So King sees the article

20:39

in the newspaper, like a couple

20:44

mornings later, he's like, god

20:44

damn it, like, and he calls us

20:49

attorney and is like, Hey, I'm

20:49

being blackmail. But don't

20:51

worry, I'm gonna go down to

20:51

sawnwood and talk to this woman

20:54

myself and get her to stop.

20:56

That's a great idea.

20:56

Also, the fact that he did not

20:59

immediately get a restraining

20:59

order is like and that the press

21:02

did not confirm this means that

21:02

well, okay, I'm not really that

21:05

surprised about that one, but still.

21:07

So he goes to Karis real

21:07

workplace, which is called the

21:11

hair barn, where she's a

21:11

hairdresser slash stylist again,

21:15

how

21:15

can she afford this?

21:18

She lives in a really,

21:18

really, really, really cheap

21:20

place, apparently. I don't know.

21:20

Yeah, so he's like, I need a

21:25

word with you. And she's like,

21:25

I'm not taking a break for you.

21:29

So say and get your hair cut.

21:29

Your hair is atrocious anyway.

21:34

Okay, that in this one

21:34

instance, that's hysterical.

21:39

So he sits, she cuts his

21:39

hair, and they talk, he

21:42

threatens legal action to which

21:42

she responds, Oh, right. Throw a

21:46

dying kid's mother in jail. And

21:46

it's how that you supposedly

21:49

just promised to save with the

21:49

research money. See how many

21:52

friends that makes you?

21:54

Oh, she's a bitch. And I

21:54

like her thing.

21:57

Yeah, she's very candid.

21:57

She's also like, I know how much

22:02

money you have. You're a

22:02

billionaire. So just write the

22:04

damn check and be done with this

22:04

and be done with me and move on

22:08

with your life. Like, just be

22:08

over it. Okay, eat the rich.

22:12

This is fine. Yeah. And like

22:12

he's like, and he's like, you

22:16

don't care what happens to me as

22:16

long as you get your money and

22:19

she whips his chair around so

22:19

that he's facing her. And she's

22:22

like, I have a dying son. I am a

22:22

feral mother. Test me.

22:30

Okay, you know what, at

22:30

first I wasn't on board. She's

22:34

around. She's,

22:36

I know. I liked her a

22:36

lot. Now. He does agree. But

22:41

there's a stipulation. So he's

22:41

like, Alright, you're going to

22:44

use me for money, then I'm going

22:44

to use you. I get interviews. I

22:48

get good press from you. I get

22:48

pictures from you. You show up

22:51

at events you make me look good.

22:51

And okay, you make me look like

22:56

a goddamn saint. And she's like,

22:56

You know what? Filing Done?

23:01

Easy. How I'll even sleep with

23:01

you if you want if she honestly

23:05

says that. And he's like, I

23:05

might take you up on that.

23:09

Okay, yeah, I know the

23:09

line at that way.

23:11

I know to let that out.

23:11

That was just very, and we'll

23:15

get into it. We'll get into it.

23:15

It's a little the romance feels

23:19

a little forced, sometimes

23:19

because of interactions like

23:22

that.

23:23

Yeah, that's not very

23:23

natural. Not that some of this

23:25

book has been.

23:26

Exactly so. So Carrie

23:26

actually takes money Nathan. I

23:35

met Nathan. Why did I say money?

23:35

Why did I call him money? Back

23:42

Margie, is he rich?

23:46

Does he ride bulls for

23:46

a living? Oh my God, he's a

23:52

billionaire. Leader bull rider.

23:52

Holy shit.

23:58

Man right now. That

23:58

those are my only criteria

24:03

Tinder I don't understand why

24:03

this is so goddamn hard. All

24:10

three billionaire bull rider.

24:10

And what do you say?

24:14

cult leaders make you a

24:14

god? Well,

24:17

if you're a billionaire, you're already kind of a leader of a coal. That is fair. Yeah.

24:19

So alright, so carry brings

24:25

Nathan back to her place just

24:25

like firm up legal requirements.

24:28

Hey, oh, and yeah, they're

24:28

exchange at her places more of

24:33

kind of the same with her where

24:33

she just does not give a shit

24:36

that he has money that he's this

24:36

big cheese. And she also does

24:40

not give a shit that she

24:40

manipulated him into giving a

24:43

$15 million to the ranch. Yes,

24:43

exactly. And so they're her shot

24:50

with him is and he's like you're

24:50

not like, like it's fine but

24:54

you're not but you're not like,

24:54

like, coddling me like people

24:59

normally do what you Like, yeah,

24:59

find it refreshing. I just want

25:02

your money.

25:03

I don't care. I

25:04

don't care. Yeah,

25:04

literally, like, I don't care

25:08

about you. And he's like, this

25:08

is so refreshing.

25:11

This book would be so

25:11

much better if just like, there

25:14

wasn't a romance, and that was

25:14

it. It was just her like, nope.

25:17

And then she saves her child,

25:17

which probably isn't going to

25:19

happen. So

25:20

he's like, Okay, listen,

25:20

we firmed up the details here at

25:24

your apartment, but I'm going to

25:24

need you to come into the office

25:26

and like sign paperwork so that

25:26

we can like make this official

25:29

because i Yes,

25:30

yeah, get a contract.

25:30

Contract. Sure. So.

25:35

Um, and so it's awesome,

25:35

because so she comes into the

25:40

meeting. And she's actually

25:40

like, Hey, um, yeah, I have

25:45

demands for you. And he's like,

25:45

What do you mean, I'm giving you

25:48

$15 million? And she's like, Oh,

25:48

no, I need more stuff. And so

25:55

he, she needs him to, and I'm

25:55

gonna get into the context of

26:00

this, but this is, hold on,

26:00

quote, she needs him to make her

26:04

fly. So she has come up with

26:04

this routine since her son was

26:10

diagnosed when he was around

26:10

five or six, where she came up

26:13

with this wonder mom thing where

26:13

she acts like that she can do

26:17

all these like feats of super

26:17

strength and stuff to kind of

26:20

lift his spirits and keep him

26:20

like positive. Oh, that hurts my

26:24

heart. Yeah. And so like, she's

26:24

done things like she pretended

26:27

she lifted a car. And she's

26:27

like, saved a cat out of a tree.

26:30

And she's like, now I want to

26:30

fly. Like I want him to see me

26:34

fly. Like, I want to try to keep

26:34

his spirits up. Yeah.

26:38

Oh, that that hurts my

26:38

heart. Yeah, yeah. Really? Oh,

26:41

yeah.

26:41

So she's like, Okay, I

26:41

want you to make me fly. Then

26:45

she gets him to agree to donate

26:45

to Song woods. So new baseball

26:50

uniform uniforms in some sort of

26:50

like Thanksgiving event

26:53

donation.

26:54

And I mean, he's gonna

26:54

have a real good press from

26:58

this. Right?

26:59

And Nathan is like,

26:59

taken aback. He's like, she's

27:02

not asking for anything for

27:02

herself. And but he agrees. He's

27:05

like, Yeah, that's fine,

27:05

whatever. So Nathan, at the end

27:10

of that meeting, as scores carry

27:10

out of the office, and his head

27:14

is still kind of buzzing with Oh

27:14

my God, who the hell is this

27:16

woman who just came the fuck out

27:16

of nowhere and up ended my life.

27:19

How did she do Stocker? She's?

27:19

She's a hairdresser. Like, how

27:25

did she do this? And there's

27:25

this dichotomy between them.

27:30

That's kind of cute, where he's

27:30

like, he gets justifiably

27:32

annoyed with her because he's

27:32

like, you're like a little fly

27:35

buzzing on the wall, and you're

27:35

driving crazy. And she's like,

27:38

Listen, I'm impervious to your

27:38

bullshit. I don't care if you

27:41

get mad at me all I want. You're

27:41

doing what I want. You're saving

27:43

my son. So get mad at me all you

27:43

want. Mm hmm. So this is where

27:47

the relationship sort of quote

27:47

unquote, jumped for me. He

27:50

kisses her in the elevator.

27:50

Yeah, just feels like I get

27:57

oriented. Yeah, well, it's okay.

27:57

So I get it. It's a romance

28:00

novel. There's gonna be steamy

28:00

moments, that's fine. But there

28:04

wasn't really any flirting back

28:04

and forth before that. Like it

28:08

was just him sort of flirting

28:08

with her and her just being

28:11

like, Alright, cool. Give me the

28:11

$15 million.

28:14

So there's no indication

28:14

that she's, she's one cent. And

28:19

he just does it.

28:20

Yeah. And let him know.

28:20

She loves it. She enjoys it. But

28:26

then he has this really this

28:26

really blatant weird

28:29

conversation, where he's like,

28:29

so sex on the table is sex part

28:34

of our deal? And she's like,

28:34

well, if you want it to be I

28:37

mean, if it's gonna be like a

28:37

stipulation for you Sure. And

28:40

he's like, Well, I'm not

28:40

interested in you anyway. But

28:42

she's like, What? Why are you

28:42

asking? Like, it's very strange.

28:47

Ah, like that. Yeah, it's

28:47

weirdly strange. And yeah, but

28:53

after this, and I can't remember

28:53

how long after it's not that

28:56

long. Maybe a few days. They go

28:56

to their first event together

28:59

and actually Cody, her son comes

28:59

with them, you know, to really

29:03

firm in that a sick child and

29:03

helping out the mother thing.

29:07

The Gerber Baby for sick

29:07

children. Yes,

29:10

exactly.

29:11

I'm dark. Even for me.

29:11

I'm sorry, everyone.

29:15

But unfortunately,

29:15

there's trouble on the horizon.

29:19

So you see, no,

29:21

you mean this entire

29:21

relationship isn't built on a

29:24

foundation of sand. Oh my god. We're

29:26

talking about the

29:26

relationship silly. Oh, Rachel.

29:29

The relationship is fine.

29:32

Come on. More

29:32

explosions. Come on more

29:35

exposure for

29:36

explosion. Damn it.

29:36

Yeah, bitch.

29:38

I would like to briefly

29:38

mention in case anyone's

29:41

wondering. Donating $15 million

29:41

to something and then magically

29:45

a curious found is not normally

29:45

how things that's not how that

29:48

happens. COVID vaccines happened

29:48

that way because it was a lot

29:51

more than $15 million. That got

29:51

thrown at it.

29:54

Yep, yep. Yep. So if you

29:54

think that like you'll took a

29:57

year. Yeah, you think that and

29:57

also They would probably come up

30:01

with something like diabetes,

30:01

where it's like, oh, you have to

30:03

take this medication every day

30:03

and it costs a billion dollars.

30:06

Yeah, yeah. Right. So

30:06

it's money to live. How dare you

30:09

want to live?

30:10

But like I said, there's

30:10

trouble on the horizon. You see,

30:13

no one asked Dr. Wallace,

30:13

whether he even wanted to pick

30:16

up the research again. And

30:16

unfortunately, he's going

30:20

through his emo phase after the

30:20

explosion at the lab.

30:24

Did he caused the explosion? No.

30:27

It was actually just

30:27

faulty electric. But he blames

30:31

himself for it. And it did kill

30:31

I think at least five people

30:36

that explosion. So and he tells

30:36

so when his assistant Linda,

30:42

who's friends with Carrie again,

30:42

it's like, Oh, my God, the money

30:45

came in. This is so exciting.

30:45

This is awesome. You're going to

30:47

be able to cure all these

30:47

children. And he's like, Yeah,

30:50

I'm getting I'm giving it back.

30:50

I'm not doing it. And he does

30:55

because he's too sat

31:01

What the fuck is this

31:01

book? What is happening? This

31:06

dude? Okay, first of all, not

31:06

only is it gonna take a long

31:09

time to actually develop the

31:09

fucking care if there is one.

31:12

But also you have to rebuild the

31:12

facility, get all the stuff that

31:16

you lost. People died for this.

31:16

And then also staff back the guy

31:20

is like, hey, here, researcher

31:20

have this giant gift of money to

31:25

save all these kids life. And

31:25

he's like, Nah, didn't work out

31:28

last time.

31:29

I know. And a lot he

31:29

tells what this book is all

31:33

about strong women but beat

31:33

like, like slapping the shit out

31:37

of bitchy men. Because good. I

31:37

do like Linda, his assistant is

31:43

pissed. She's like, Girl, oh,

31:43

you're gonna wallow in self pity

31:48

with children are dying. You're

31:48

close to a cure. You could fix

31:52

this and you won't because

31:52

you're sad. Not just that she's

31:59

like, it is just that you little

31:59

bitch. Get your shit together.

32:03

They have been like had very,

32:03

they've been not like

32:07

romantically involved, but

32:07

they've just been really long

32:09

friends and colleagues forever

32:09

and ever and ever. And she's

32:13

always had his back. And she's

32:13

like, You know what, fuck this.

32:18

I'm out. I'm leaving. I'm out.

32:18

I'm Haley. I always believed in

32:23

you. But if you're just going to

32:23

give up on yourself and on this,

32:26

that I'm out and go, girl, and

32:26

she also though goes into this

32:32

little speech of God gave you

32:32

this gift and you're just going

32:34

to give it up? Which we'll get

32:34

into that. Yeah, there's more of

32:38

that to come.

32:40

So this is a Christian

32:40

romance, but their sex. Um, so

32:45

it's a dirty Christian.

32:46

There's just a lot of

32:46

like influencing faith and God.

32:51

And if I do this, then God will

32:51

let things be okay. Kind of

32:55

thing. And that's not really how

32:55

I don't think God works. But

32:59

yeah, I mean, I don't I mean,

32:59

whatever you believe that's

33:02

fine. I just don't think that

33:02

that's like, I find it

33:06

personally

33:07

weird.

33:07

So feels

33:08

very if you pray hard

33:08

enough. It'll be fixed. Yes,

33:11

exactly. There's just

33:11

no, yes. Um, so Linda goes to

33:16

carry that night and is like,

33:16

Listen, I don't know how to

33:19

convince him. I don't know what

33:19

to do. I thought he was gonna

33:22

wake up and just be happy that

33:22

the money was here, but he's not

33:26

going for it. He's not doing it.

33:26

So then Carrie goes to see Dr.

33:29

Wallace with her son. And it's

33:29

like, oh, you could fix him. You

33:33

could fix this. You could save

33:33

my son. Please do this. And

33:37

waltzes. Like, I'm sorry, but I

33:37

too sad.

33:40

Okay. Again, lady. It's

33:40

not just a here's the magic

33:45

money fairy. He says that all of

33:45

this works. Now. She is.

33:49

Listen, I did. She just

33:49

bodies, feral motherhood.

33:55

Like I'm all for feral

33:55

motherhood, but like, well,

33:58

there's

33:58

a crazy side to feral

33:58

motherhood. But yeah. Decide to

34:02

feral mothers

34:03

Mama Bear. And then

34:03

there's mama bear that just have

34:06

a bunch of cocaine. Yeah. To

34:06

friends.

34:08

Yeah, right. Exactly. So

34:08

and he's like, but I just love

34:11

that. I'm sorry. But I'm to say,

34:13

I'm sorry. I'm too sad.

34:13

Can I use that as an everyday

34:17

excuse? Yes. I don't have

34:17

depression. Okay, Marcia, you

34:20

do? Give me you give me

34:20

permission.

34:23

Yes, but not every day.

34:23

Only special occasions. Only

34:28

when I'm really sad. Like when

34:28

my lab explode. Yes, exactly.

34:31

And you can't find the cure for

34:31

diabetes. Okay. All right. Okay.

34:36

So Nathan gets a call from

34:36

Linda. And Linda tells Nathan

34:40

look, thank you so much. But

34:40

something happened. We're not

34:42

going to we're no longer going

34:42

to be able to take that money.

34:45

And they think it's really

34:45

concerned. So he calls Carrie at

34:49

work, and is told she called in

34:49

sick for the first time. He then

34:53

calls her at home, and she

34:53

doesn't answer her phone. So

34:56

he's like, and Cody doesn't

34:56

answer the phone and he's like

35:00

What is happening? This is

35:00

really weird. So and because

35:03

romance novel he shows up at her

35:03

house.

35:05

He has been there once before, so at least he knows he knows. Yes, that's

35:08

a good point. That's a

35:08

good point. There is a part

35:10

though, at the beginning of the

35:10

book where it's like when before

35:13

he writes up the contract. He's

35:13

like, Oh, no, I had I did. I did

35:17

some digging on you before

35:17

before I agreed to do this. So

35:20

because she has been

35:20

literally stalking him. I'm, I'm

35:24

okay. More. Okay. We're all

35:24

about equality. Yeah, that's

35:27

true. Well, equal parts. Yeah.

35:27

He says he goes, everyone gets

35:30

an opportunity to stock everyone.

35:32

Equal saw equal

35:32

opportunity. Equal Opportunity,

35:36

stalking. Yeah,

35:37

in this house, we are

35:37

equal opportunity for stalking.

35:42

So they think goes to

35:42

her door and she knocks she

35:46

opens. And he's like, holy shit.

35:46

You look like hell. What the

35:50

fuck happened? And she's like,

35:50

Yeah, I finally had a breakdown.

35:55

It finally happened. And she

35:55

explains what happened with

35:58

Wallace and money. I mean, cut

35:58

him

36:02

at Nathan. Nathan.

36:02

Nathan, right.

36:05

Why do I keep calling him money?

36:07

No, but it might be I

36:07

think it might be it as a middle

36:09

name. And you know, some people go by their middle. Yeah, that's

36:11

for sure. Yeah. So um,

36:11

dollar you do so dollar Oopsy

36:16

daisy dollar a dues. So money

36:16

springs into action and is like,

36:22

I will fix this. Don't worry as

36:22

money does. In the meantime,

36:26

food, booze, and maybe a real

36:26

strong hug.

36:34

Okay, yep. One. You just

36:34

referring to him was money

36:38

throughout that entire thing.

36:38

was amazing. Because it made

36:42

sense. Yeah, it didn't have to

36:42

be a name. It could just be

36:45

money and to Is he gonna hug her

36:45

with his penis?

36:49

He's not gonna hug her

36:49

with his penis. Normal hug. He's

36:52

like, Listen, I'm gonna help

36:52

you. I'm gonna we're gonna

36:55

figure this out. We're going to

36:55

take care of this. It's it's got

36:58

to be okay. And she's like, I

36:58

don't believe you but it's nice

37:01

to hear somebody say that to me.

37:01

Because she's always the strong

37:04

one like for Cody. She's always

37:04

like and her personal belief of

37:09

I have to believe so hard

37:09

because otherwise I will lose

37:14

Cody Cody will die right she has

37:14

this personal internal strength

37:18

that is based off of that

37:19

and they literally don't

37:19

describe this disease outside of

37:22

Nadu trust me. It's super

37:22

deadly. Yeah, I have this

37:25

girlfriend. She lives in Canada

37:27

and data and it has to

37:27

do with enzymes. But it's all

37:33

right. So he has delivery

37:33

brought delivery groceries

37:39

brought to her house. He has

37:39

delivery booze brought to her

37:42

house this is before DoorDash

37:42

GrubHub and all that so you know

37:46

the money is running we can do

37:46

anything we can't do anything.

37:49

And he also has a takeout

37:49

brought to their house. So they

37:52

Cody Nathan and Carrie all eat

37:52

fried chicken together. And then

37:57

Cody goes out goes back up to

37:57

his room because he's a nine

37:59

year old, you know? And over

37:59

some wine. Nathan and Carrie tap

38:05

chat and Nathan tells his or

38:05

excuse me money tells his tragic

38:10

backstory

38:11

which good what's what

38:11

why his money the way he is.

38:15

which granted it is

38:15

pretty tragic. Um, his he grew

38:19

up and just like, you know, he

38:19

came he created his own money.

38:24

Yeah, so money came from

38:24

nothing came from

38:26

nothing. His parents had

38:26

a hellish relationship. So like

38:32

really abusive towards one

38:32

another and money, basically

38:36

sprinted towards a college

38:36

college football scholarship to

38:40

get away from from like the

38:40

horribleness at home, and he

38:43

left his younger sister behind

38:43

and this is gonna get real. So

38:49

his so when Luckily his sister

38:49

was out of the house when this

38:53

happened. But Nathan's mom shot

38:53

her his father and then shot

39:00

herself. And then the little

39:00

sister walked into the house and

39:03

found them

39:04

to borrow them BAM ism.

39:04

We're just gonna send jokes out

39:08

of the room for this entire

39:08

backstory. Go ahead.

39:12

Yep, yep. So now is so

39:12

now Nathan's sister who he's

39:16

Nathan's sister isn't much

39:16

younger than him. So she was

39:19

probably like, 1617 when this

39:19

happened, and he was 1819. But

39:24

his sister Frankie now blames

39:24

Nathan for what happened. And he

39:28

also she also blames him for

39:28

leaving her behind, like,

39:36

because even after the funeral

39:36

happened, he really was just

39:39

kind of like, I gotta get away

39:39

from this shit. I have to live

39:42

my life. It was just this coping

39:42

mechanism. And she was

39:45

abandoned, essentially.

39:46

Yeah, so I mean,

39:46

everyone, unfortunately,

39:50

everyone grieves and deals with

39:50

trauma in their own way. And the

39:55

way that you deal with it might

39:55

be very inconclusive with the

39:58

way someone else deals with it,

39:58

but There's like, it's just what

40:01

it is what it is, right? It's

40:01

hard. Yeah. So and, and that's

40:05

why therapy is always a good idea,

40:06

Frank. And he has since

40:06

then Nathan has tried to

40:09

reconnect with his sister. But

40:09

she's, like, very just

40:13

antagonistic does not want

40:13

anything to do with him. And

40:16

she's kind of another side plot

40:16

that I'll get into a little bit.

40:19

But she has serious mental

40:19

health issues too, including

40:21

OCD. And she's determined, like

40:21

I said earlier in this book now

40:25

to destroy Nathan, like she

40:25

wants to take down as well. Oh,

40:28

yeah,

40:28

I do love the name.

40:28

Frankie

40:31

is a great name. It is a

40:31

really great name. So, um,

40:35

so are we going to talk

40:35

about his kid that died yet? Or

40:38

can I bring jokes back in,

40:39

we're not going to talk

40:39

well, so I guess I'll just go

40:42

into that. I mean, his son, he

40:42

was married, his son died of

40:45

gillers disease six years

40:45

earlier. And, but that's really,

40:51

you don't really get much more

40:51

into it. Other than that, and

40:55

like, he blames himself a little

40:55

bit for the fact that his that

40:58

his son died, because when his

40:58

son was really in pain, and

41:02

really like, at the end of it,

41:02

he told his son, he was like, if

41:05

you need to go, it's okay. You

41:05

can go like you can, you can let

41:09

go and carry on the other

41:09

opposite end of that spectrum is

41:12

not willing to do that at all

41:12

ever. Like she's like, I will

41:15

never let my son go.

41:17

Ever. Yeah, I don't know

41:17

how I feel about what I know.

41:21

I know. Well, I you

41:21

know, I sympathize with both

41:25

like know, it's it's one of

41:25

those situations where it's

41:28

like, nothing is right.

41:28

Everything is just be bananas

41:31

and crazy. You don't really know

41:31

until you're in the room there.

41:35

And I think that right

41:35

now she's not at the same part

41:38

that he was at, cuz I'm assuming

41:38

at that point they were in they

41:41

were in the

41:41

hospital like it was he

41:41

was basically unconscious. He

41:45

couldn't do anything. He was in

41:45

pain. And, and yeah,

41:50

my I tend to lean

41:50

towards if I'm in that position,

41:53

I want to be able to tell that

41:53

person No, you can, you can go

41:58

to right kind of like not

41:58

because if they're in that much,

42:00

right, but you know, yeah. All

42:00

right. What happened to his

42:03

wife? Did they divorced her did

42:03

you guys wife

42:05

kind of when she got the

42:05

diagnosis kind of fell apart?

42:08

And she actually wasn't really

42:08

even helpful towards their son

42:13

couldn't really handle it. And

42:13

they did divorce I think either

42:16

during or after he passed like

42:16

he died. So Oh, good all around.

42:22

Now that that's done

42:22

jokes, come on kickin. Alright,

42:26

so while this so how does money

42:26

fix it? Um,

42:30

well, he's, he's like,

42:30

I'm gonna call Wallace. We're

42:33

gonna figure all this out.

42:33

Right. But while this is

42:35

happening in the chat, yeah, man

42:35

did well, so But while this is

42:39

happening, Dr. Wallace is like,

42:39

I ruined everything. Like I've

42:45

ruined my own life. But I've

42:45

also pushed away someone who was

42:49

really important to me, meaning

42:49

Linda, and so he goes to see

42:53

Linda, and Linda is in the

42:53

process of packing up her stuff.

42:56

She's serious. Like, she's like,

42:56

she's in this box, like clothes,

43:00

clothes in the suitcase. She's

43:00

literally in the middle of

43:03

packing. And Wallace is like,

43:03

listen, I promise I'm doing this

43:07

for me. And whether you leave or

43:07

choose to stay, I'm going to do

43:11

this, but I'm going to start the

43:11

research again. And I'm asking

43:14

you to stay

43:15

good on it. Yeah. Yeah,

43:15

look, I know I know. I'm doing

43:18

it for me, but just remember

43:18

through money we can do anything

43:22

he really just wants

43:22

it's a conversation between the

43:24

two of them where she's like,

43:24

you can't just do this for me.

43:26

You have to do this because you

43:26

want to do it. And he's like, I

43:29

want to do it but I also really

43:29

want you

43:33

see that's a better love

43:33

story than whatever the hell

43:35

they

43:36

actually have a very

43:36

cute love story. So that's side

43:40

love. So that's the real

43:41

romance in this book not

43:41

money tragic

43:45

but carry in the

43:45

meantime like so you carry does

43:48

not know this, though. But she

43:48

in the meantime picks herself

43:51

back up again. And because she

43:51

has Cody didn't look after,

43:55

right? She's got to kind of like

43:55

EcoCAR and Nathan is like, Huh,

44:00

you know, I like this tough and

44:00

like, conniving woman, you know,

44:04

she seems innocent on the

44:04

outside, but she's actually

44:06

really smart and, and damn

44:06

Dipper termined on the inside.

44:11

And they have this kind of

44:11

moment where, you know, it's

44:14

tech they, they he invites her

44:14

out to dinner, like one night

44:17

and he's like, Oh, it's just for

44:17

the publicity. But it's really

44:22

more of a date. Yeah, at what

44:22

point

44:25

at what point has she

44:25

seemed innocent to him?

44:30

When she's talking about

44:30

her son when she's just like her

44:33

when her like her intentions are

44:33

just so pure with him. Naive

44:38

maybe a little bit I don't think

44:38

naive I think it's more just

44:41

like her intentions are so

44:41

clear. You know, he's in the Bs

44:45

in fitness. So like oh are never

44:45

clear with what they want. And

44:50

with her It's like no, I just

44:50

want to save my son's life. And

44:52

that's it and I want you to give

44:52

me this because I want to save

44:55

my son's life. So

44:56

yeah, I not innocent

44:56

more. straightforward yeah

45:01

right right all right ah

45:01

sorry I'm going back getting so

45:04

like I said takes her out to

45:04

dinner and song would and they

45:06

have a lovely time where they

45:06

dance and it's like things are

45:08

getting spicy you know things

45:08

are coming together between them

45:14

the kind of like dancing that

45:14

edging that line. Hey, oh magic

45:19

there. Hey. Oh,

45:20

we have not made enough.

45:20

Yes, um, hey, let us know if you

45:25

like edging Jesus Christ. What

45:25

is wrong with

45:29

you? I ain't call for

45:29

that. Anyway, I just made the

45:32

original joke anyway. So um, and

45:32

then Carrie gets the good news.

45:38

Wallace apologizes to her and

45:38

tells her he's back on the

45:41

Gilliard case. And so Carrie is

45:41

thrilled and money I mean,

45:46

Nathan no fucking money brings

45:46

her to his office to show her

45:51

around just kind of talk because

45:51

he was like, Oh, I had all this

45:55

time set aside to beat up

45:55

Wallace. But now that I'm not

45:57

going to do that you want to

45:57

just come over and like, hang

46:00

out.

46:01

I mean, I it's really a

46:01

special time when money can show

46:05

his his aspiring significant

46:05

other. The giant pile of gold

46:10

that he swims in every night all

46:10

a Scrooge McDuck. All right,

46:13

it's a it's kind of like

46:13

a baby dance. Do you think about

46:16

it? Yeah, just

46:21

listeners. I just waved

46:21

my arms above my head like an

46:23

octopus.

46:24

So I imagined Spidey

46:24

canoodle in his office and they

46:29

kiss and then Carrie gets a

46:29

call. It's it's from Cody's

46:34

friend and Cody had slipped and

46:34

fell in the hallway and broke

46:38

his leg. So oh no, Harry and

46:38

Nathan rushed to the hospital

46:42

and Cody's okay, but the doctor

46:42

there is pretty much like look

46:45

this, this is the beginning of

46:45

the decline. Like things are

46:49

about to get ugly. So just be

46:49

prepared.

46:52

Did she just leave her

46:52

son she the sudden has not

46:56

played much of a role in this

46:56

except to be sick? Yeah, that's

46:58

pretty

46:59

much his role, though.

46:59

Like just be sick. Okay, like a

47:01

cute little nine year old boy

47:01

who honestly I was gonna mention

47:05

this. He acts more like a 14

47:05

year old or a 15 year old I

47:08

would say than a nine year old.

47:08

Because yeah, so but like, I

47:12

will also say that there is sick

47:12

kid sarcasm, which like sick

47:18

kids can have the funniest

47:18

senses of humor.

47:20

Oh, yeah. Well, I was

47:20

gonna say I imagine when you're

47:23

nine years old and no, you're

47:23

probably gonna die. That

47:25

probably changes your

47:25

personality a little bit, right?

47:29

Um, so the doctors like,

47:29

Okay, this doesn't look good.

47:33

You need to start preparing for

47:33

the worst. And this is where

47:36

Karis God fearing attitude comes

47:36

in. She's just gonna pray. So

47:42

you gotta pray so hard. So

47:42

throughout this book, there's

47:44

been a lot of like that of God

47:44

and miracles and God given

47:48

gifts. And with Carrie, it comes

47:48

in that she sort of made a deal

47:52

with God when Cody got sick,

47:52

that she would sacrifice every

47:55

ounce of her own happiness for

47:55

herself to save Cody's life. So

48:00

basically like martyrdom, like

48:00

in the nth degree, I will

48:04

sacrifice everything so that God

48:04

will save my son. It's been

48:09

a while since I've been

48:09

gung ho in the Christian Jews,

48:13

but I don't I don't

48:13

remember that being how God like

48:18

so I think it's like you can

48:18

make

48:22

a deal with God.

48:24

Yep, that's just what

48:24

she believes. So now just carry

48:27

feels like I was happy with

48:27

money. I mean, Nathan for just a

48:31

moment, and God quote unquote,

48:31

punished me by letting me go to

48:34

get hurt. Oh, yeah.

48:38

Yeah. Yeah, I do not

48:38

have the time nor the crowns.

48:43

laneway This is religiously bad.

48:46

Right. Right. Oh, no

48:49

need that shows up at the

48:49

hospital when Cody is being

48:52

discharged. And it's like, I'm

48:52

here to help. What can I do? And

48:55

Carrie is pretty mean. Cuz I'm

48:55

pretty bitchy. She's like, thank

48:59

you. But we can't let this get

48:59

personal. We're done. I'm here

49:02

for photo ops and enter these

49:02

but beyond that, this is a no

49:05

go. So he he's like, Jesus,

49:05

okay. Like, I'm damn okay. And

49:14

he just is like, fine. Got it,

49:14

and leaves the hospital but

49:18

because but because money feels

49:18

guilty, like 45 minutes later,

49:23

okay, maybe like a day later.

49:23

Okay, maybe a day he sends a

49:28

motorized wheelchair to carry

49:28

and Cody's house and he has

49:31

someone set up a ramp at their

49:31

apartment building. I know.

49:34

Yeah, I know. And Carrie is

49:34

incredibly grateful and feels

49:38

comfortable with him enough to

49:38

ask, Hey, and like they before

49:44

then she calls them I think and

49:44

she like, is like thank you so

49:48

much for doing that. I really

49:48

appreciate it. I'm sorry. I'm

49:51

being such a weirdo right now.

49:51

And he's like, it's okay. And

49:55

she's like, okay, but now I need

49:55

something else. Can you make me

49:57

wonder Mom, can you make me fly?

49:57

Uh huh. And so and he agrees to

50:03

that. And so he feels

50:03

comfortable enough to call and

50:06

say, Hey, I need you to come

50:06

over, we're in a bit of a

50:09

pickle. So Nathan explains that

50:09

Frankie actually showed up at

50:13

his building, like, at his,

50:13

okay. And like somebody

50:19

recognized her somehow. And she

50:19

was kind of like upset and

50:23

crying and was like, Oh, I'm

50:23

just so worried about my brother

50:26

like, he is, you know, fall in

50:26

love with this woman. And I

50:30

think he's, she's only there for

50:30

the money. And the person like

50:33

real Yeah. And the person

50:33

reassured her and said, like,

50:37

oh, no, no, you're cool. That's

50:37

exactly right. And told the

50:40

whole story. So now it's like,

50:40

yeah, so now the press is gonna

50:46

find out that she literally like

50:46

blackmailed him pretty much. And

50:50

that. Yeah, um,

50:53

I feel like I've had to

50:53

hold on to sorry, let Jack go

50:58

way more in this, this episode

50:58

than I had in the previous one.

51:04

Because like, Sure, the previous

51:04

one made no sense. This one

51:06

makes just enough sense that

51:06

it's so much worse.

51:11

So um, so they have

51:11

another meeting at his office

51:15

building. carry his attorney in

51:15

Nathan. And they kind of come up

51:21

with a plan of what what they're

51:21

going to do in terms of damage

51:24

control for this story leaking.

51:24

And but then, of course, they

51:28

end up back at his condo for

51:28

whatever reason, he invites her

51:31

back, and they kind of talk

51:31

about Cody, but it's really more

51:36

about like, the two of them

51:36

being together. And Nathan's

51:39

like, Look, I know from

51:39

experience, the world is shitty.

51:43

Your son could die could still

51:43

die and it wouldn't be anything

51:47

that you did or didn't do. It

51:47

would just happen because shit

51:50

happens the world's a shitty

51:50

place. And Carrie is like, but

51:54

faith is important. I believe in

51:54

miracles if I keep playing the

51:57

martyr then maybe a miracle will

51:57

happen. And she also believes

52:02

that faith is the man that like

52:02

the devil tempting her to the

52:06

dark side and my eyes roll into

52:06

the distance

52:09

I

52:11

am upset that I did not

52:11

set myself up in such a way that

52:14

there is a readily available

52:14

hard service. Yeah,

52:16

no, I know she'll and

52:16

then what? I like Carrie she

52:20

also guilt trips him because

52:20

she's like, You never look at my

52:23

son. Why didn't you ever look at

52:23

him? Is it because he reminds

52:26

you of your son and he's like

52:26

well, yeah. Oh

52:32

yeah, maybe Jan

52:37

Yep, yeah.

52:41

I don't like her

52:41

anymore. No, no, no, not on

52:43

board but the

52:44

cocaine leader. She

52:44

feels really bad about it. She's

52:48

like God dammit, I should just

52:48

go ahead so she comes up with

52:52

this great I mean absolutely

52:52

awful plan where she gets the

52:56

town to create Nathan King Day.

52:56

In honor of like, thanks for all

53:01

the donation live $50 million,

53:01

and all this stuff. And they're

53:04

gonna celebrate the third with a

53:04

parade

53:14

Rachel's banging your head

53:14

against her desk. She found a

53:17

way

53:19

mmm, it was worth the

53:19

effort. What the fuck is

53:23

happening is good pie Jack. I

53:23

have no idea where you came

53:27

from. And

53:28

his publicist is legit.

53:28

Nathan's publicist is like That

53:31

sounds perfect. Coming from a

53:31

marketing person. That is a

53:34

horrible idea and it gives major

53:34

Trump vibes just like so many

53:39

fives I hate it so much.

53:42

Good but this wasn't the

53:42

before times March 8 Before we

53:45

all knew I mean, we knew before

53:45

we know

53:48

Kerry also like Carrie

53:48

and Nathan speak alone again at

53:51

this meeting and she's like

53:51

look, I'm really sorry about

53:54

what I said. It was not fair at

53:54

all. You are not like in any

53:58

way. You have no obligation to

53:58

my son. Like you he's my

54:02

business he's my son and I'm

54:02

really sorry, but I can't do

54:06

this with you. I know it's my

54:06

fear I get that but he's my son

54:11

and I can't continue this

54:11

relationship with you. But also

54:16

because I don't want to hurt you

54:16

because you matter to me.

54:19

You know what God wants

54:19

for you? Yes you to feel edging

54:24

real guilty yes edging no to

54:24

feel real guilty when something

54:30

happens because you know we all

54:30

horny for some self Sacher sorry

54:33

God's horny for some self

54:33

sacrifice. It's here again. So

54:37

then Nathan, actually

54:37

invites Carrie and Cody to a

54:42

baseball game because Cody loves

54:42

baseball. He's obsessed with

54:45

baseball.

54:46

It's the same name Nathan because it sounds like Satan.

54:50

I don't know Fuck. God

54:50

damn.

54:56

I disclaimer. I don't

54:56

care what you believe you

54:59

believe what you want to We've all believe what I want to believe don't push it on me on

55:01

impression on you. But done

55:04

disclaimer ended. I'm still

55:04

gonna laugh at this.

55:08

Um, this is before the

55:08

parade, they go to a baseball

55:12

game and Nathan has a fancy box.

55:12

So it's really you know, like

55:16

one of those fancy glass box

55:16

shit. And everything honestly is

55:21

going fine. They're enjoying

55:21

themselves

55:24

a little. Oh, no, make a wish.

55:26

Right? And still.

55:26

Reporter comes up to carrying

55:30

it's like, Hey, why do you think

55:30

it took you blackmailing Nathan

55:35

to make him look good to get him

55:35

to do the right thing and donate

55:38

money and carry us like to this

55:38

reporter fuck you. But then she

55:41

turns around to just like, hey,

55:41

why don't you like donate your

55:45

money earlier, to Nathan. And

55:45

Nathan doesn't get a chance to

55:48

respond because Cody has another

55:48

crisis and they rush again to

55:51

the hospital. So you know how?

55:51

Sure so this is where Carrie

55:56

really starts to break down.

55:56

Because Nathan is there through

56:02

the worst of the worst. He's

56:02

already been through this. He

56:04

knows what he's like, I know

56:04

what's probably gonna happen.

56:07

Like, this is the we're looking

56:07

at the beginning of the end. And

56:11

I'm Oh, you know what? It's

56:11

okay. So they had already

56:15

planned to the flying thing, but

56:15

he actually does get out of the

56:17

hospital again. And then they do

56:17

the flying thing. So she gets to

56:21

fly. Is this at the parade? This

56:21

is I think this is around the

56:26

time of the parade. This is what

56:26

the plot Rachel This is with my

56:30

notes fell apart. The plot fell

56:30

apart. Just

56:33

that's it. I was gonna

56:33

ask one what player two, I've

56:37

stopped gently letting Jack

56:37

float into the Atlantic Ocean

56:41

and started eating him off think

56:41

This is Sparta kicked off the

56:45

fucking

56:45

know that the parade

56:45

goes fine. Like he gets a

56:50

shirtless city. She's wonder mom

56:50

and they work together to

56:54

accomplish both of those things

56:54

happening, right? Okay, okay,

56:57

sure. I'm sayin Of course. Oh,

56:57

and then I think that Oh, yeah.

57:03

It's like after the Wonder mom

57:03

thing. They go back to her

57:07

place. And Nathan and Carrie

57:07

have sex. Don't worry. Cody is

57:12

not in the house. He's at a

57:12

friend's house. And I have to

57:15

say

57:15

right after having a

57:15

crisis. Yeah. Okay.

57:18

Yeah. Because, you know,

57:18

kids bounce back magic magic law

57:22

right.

57:23

There bouncy. It's fine. Well, he

57:25

might actually be baby.

57:25

He didn't go to the hospital. I

57:28

feel like you would have gone to

57:28

the hospital. I don't remember

57:31

Rachel. It really doesn't

57:31

matter. Just know this kid is

57:34

falling apart. Okay.

57:36

He had dudes like, this

57:36

is the beginning of the end

57:40

of the end. And then

57:40

they have sex. And I have to

57:44

admit the sex is pretty good.

57:44

Oh, yeah, I will color me

57:50

satisfied with the sex is what I

57:50

will say.

57:55

All right, fair.

57:55

Interesting. I am excited to get

57:58

into that. Okay, so now

58:00

all right. So of course,

58:00

there's a fancy dress buying

58:03

scene where they go to like a

58:03

fancy shop and get her a fancy

58:07

dress because they have to go to

58:07

a fancy party. Oh, yes. And then

58:13

there's the fancy ball gowns

58:13

ball gown scene where she looks

58:16

gorgeous and stunning. And

58:16

they're like vibing together and

58:19

it's all great. And then there's

58:19

the drama of Cody having quote

58:24

his quote unquote final setback

58:24

so he gets rushed to the

58:28

hospital again,

58:30

how disease of the

58:32

hospital get i i say

58:32

final? Like I'm quote unquote,

58:35

okay,

58:35

okay, okay. Okay, okay.

58:35

I thought you meant like, not

58:39

kids just

58:42

so Cody is in the

58:42

hospital. It's really not

58:45

looking good for him. He feels

58:45

terrible. He's in a lot of pain.

58:49

And Dr. Wallace like actually

58:49

comes to the hospital and is

58:53

like, I have this thing that

58:53

might work. And she signs all

58:57

the paperwork. That's like,

58:57

okay, like give it to him and

59:00

the hospital at first won't give

59:00

him the drug. Yes, because

59:04

that's not how it works. But

59:04

then she's like, I will

59:06

discharge him from this hospital

59:06

and nurse him in my own home if

59:09

I have to to get him this

59:09

medication. If you did, that is

59:13

your choice. If you want like

59:13

fine, we'll fucking give it to

59:16

him. So they give it to him

59:16

doesn't work. He kind of like

59:19

feels a little bit better the

59:19

next day he wakes up and feels a

59:22

little bit better but it doesn't

59:22

like work in the long term. And

59:27

I think he's unconscious at this

59:27

point. But Nathan kind of this

59:30

like, you're doing the best you

59:30

can. There's nothing you can do.

59:34

You know, you just got to stay

59:34

strong through this. And she's

59:36

like, I don't know what the fuck

59:36

you're talking about. My son is

59:38

not going to die. There's going

59:38

to be a miracle. Like and fight

59:43

hard enough. It won't happen you

59:43

I don't want you here. And so

59:46

Nathan walks off again he leaves

59:46

but then later on.

59:51

Do not tell me that

59:51

while he is gone, the kid

59:54

magically gets better and

59:54

there's her miracle because God

59:57

be horny for self sacrifice and

59:57

didn't want her to be happy.

1:00:00

Then later she. So then

1:00:00

later a nurse comes in to Cody's

1:00:05

room and is talking to Carrie,

1:00:05

and tells Carrie oh my gosh,

1:00:09

like that guy you're with. He is

1:00:09

such a trooper. He seems really

1:00:12

amazing. You're lucky to have him with you. And she's like, What are you talking about? He

1:00:14

left. And she's like, he didn't

1:00:17

leave. He's been in the

1:00:17

cafeteria this whole time. What

1:00:19

are you talking about? He's been

1:00:19

waiting for you. Ah, and so she

1:00:22

goes down. Carrie goes down

1:00:22

there and she's like, I am so

1:00:26

sorry for what I said. It was so

1:00:26

undeserved. I'm just so afraid.

1:00:30

I don't want to lose him. And

1:00:30

she comes to this realization to

1:00:33

where she's like, I get where

1:00:33

are you? We're coming from now

1:00:37

with your son because my son is

1:00:37

in so much pain. I can't like I

1:00:42

have to be strong for him. If

1:00:42

he's ready to go. He can go It's

1:00:45

okay. It's fine. So like she's

1:00:45

holding Nathan's hand and is

1:00:48

going into Cody's room to like

1:00:48

kind of tell him this and his

1:00:51

unconsciousness. And she walks

1:00:51

in and Dr. Wallace is there. And

1:00:55

he's putting like, some sort of

1:00:55

drug into a CODIS bag and it's

1:01:01

like I figured it out. Figured

1:01:01

it out overnight. I just

1:01:07

primo this is some primo

1:01:07

black tar heroin I swear to God

1:01:14

the heroin molecules fix the

1:01:14

fake disease by

1:01:20

Dr. Wallace is like so

1:01:20

sad because he can't figure it

1:01:23

out as Linda's like, you just

1:01:23

need to get some sleep go take a

1:01:27

nap. And he wakes up and I swear

1:01:27

to god it's just magically

1:01:30

figured it out

1:01:44

Yes Yep. God if only

1:01:44

why? Wait, what? I I

1:02:00

am exhausted.

1:02:04

God, it's a good thing

1:02:04

that we don't have any issues

1:02:08

involving global pandemics

1:02:08

because all of our doctors just

1:02:11

slept on it for a night and they

1:02:11

figured it out immediately when

1:02:14

it became a problem isn't it?

1:02:14

Yep, it's so great. Instead of

1:02:18

all

1:02:19

those people are ready

1:02:19

for the epilogue please God

1:02:22

just finish it.

1:02:25

So we're at a a little

1:02:25

league softball game like three

1:02:30

years later, Nathan and oh wait

1:02:30

no, no, no, no, no wait, there's

1:02:35

one more better plot. Yeah, no,

1:02:35

I forgot about this shit.

1:02:40

There's so much plot this Carrie

1:02:40

goes home because she's like, Oh

1:02:45

my God, there's a treatment and

1:02:45

it's working awesome. I can

1:02:48

finally get some rest. So she

1:02:48

goes home and she's like, there

1:02:53

are people over to her house

1:02:53

that she's talking to she

1:02:56

somebody knocks on the door she

1:02:56

opens the door. It's Frankie

1:02:59

with a gun to carry space

1:02:59

because carry forbid to finally

1:03:09

destroy the kid's life, but

1:03:09

don't worry, Kerry talks her out

1:03:14

of it. And it's like you don't

1:03:14

want to kill me. Like you just

1:03:19

want to be happy and not have

1:03:19

mental illness anymore. Oh shit.

1:03:23

Margie, have you tried to

1:03:23

leaving right? Have you tried

1:03:26

selling yourself? You don't have

1:03:26

to be mentally ill

1:03:30

getting over it.

1:03:34

Sorry, Frankie, get out.

1:03:34

And then Nathan shows up and

1:03:40

takes Frankie to a mental

1:03:40

hospital where magically She's

1:03:43

much better in like three weeks.

1:03:43

All right, I just had to tell

1:03:47

you that that that's I

1:03:49

did those.

1:03:52

Weeks later, Nathan goes

1:03:52

to visit Francie in her mental

1:03:55

hospital and is like I am here

1:03:55

for you or whatever you need.

1:03:59

I've got you. I want us to be

1:03:59

close again. I've missed you.

1:04:02

Please let me help you. And

1:04:02

she's like, cool, chill. Now

1:04:05

that I've got these drugs. I'm

1:04:05

feeling way better.

1:04:08

Still have some

1:04:08

antidepressants. Definitely.

1:04:10

We're still definitely

1:04:11

have some shit to work through. And I'm still definitely angry at you. But

1:04:13

we're going to get through it.

1:04:15

And he's like, awesome. By the

1:04:15

way. I'm going to marry Carrie

1:04:18

if she'll have me. That was

1:04:18

Yeah, so it's been like two

1:04:22

weeks. Right? So what are you

1:04:22

talking about? Uh, yeah.

1:04:25

I got I'm sorry. I

1:04:25

thought that it was real

1:04:27

medicine. Right? It took time. So

1:04:29

um, let's see. Alright,

1:04:29

so now we get to the epilogue.

1:04:34

Yep. So now Carrie and Nathan

1:04:34

are married. They're at a little

1:04:40

league game. It's a Cody's

1:04:40

Little League game. And he's

1:04:44

like doing fine. He's thriving,

1:04:44

feeling much better. Yeah, and

1:04:50

Carrie is pregnant. So the end.

1:04:55

I have to assume that

1:04:55

this disease that this kid had

1:04:59

was a genetic test.

1:05:00

Was it to the end of the

1:05:00

book? So they said that they

1:05:03

Oh, they covered. Good,

1:05:03

good.

1:05:06

So Oh, and Linda and Dr.

1:05:06

Wallace do end up together.

1:05:11

Yeah, good. That's the

1:05:11

one I really cared about Margie

1:05:13

what the

1:05:15

realize how much of a

1:05:15

roller coaster was until I

1:05:17

started talking about it with you.

1:05:20

Oh, God, isn't that? No,

1:05:20

hate that the way so it's weird

1:05:25

because like, we've definitely

1:05:25

covered some five or probably

1:05:28

Yeah, like books. This still is

1:05:28

up there. For me personally, on

1:05:32

my own personal list is one of the worst.

1:05:34

I see. I would not call

1:05:34

it the one of the worst ones I

1:05:37

wouldn't. I hate I hated it.

1:05:37

Like, well, no, I actually

1:05:40

didn't hate it. I, I was fine. I

1:05:40

was, how do I put this? Um,

1:05:46

so I imagine when you're

1:05:46

in it, it's different. And then

1:05:49

hearing summary,

1:05:51

stuff was not great. But

1:05:51

their relation that was cute

1:05:57

enough that I was like, Okay.

1:05:57

And also it resolved itself in a

1:06:02

way that I agreed with, with her

1:06:02

basically, coming to terms with

1:06:07

the fact that her son is

1:06:07

probably going to die and him

1:06:10

being like, I'm here for you, no

1:06:10

matter what in her being like,

1:06:13

Okay, you are not like, God

1:06:13

doesn't want me to be unhappy.

1:06:18

Like,

1:06:18

okay, that's totally

1:06:18

fair. And honestly, the reason

1:06:21

that I didn't like it was not

1:06:21

because of the gods stuff. That

1:06:24

was just weird. I didn't care

1:06:24

about that. And I do also

1:06:28

understand that feeling of, oh,

1:06:28

this is somehow my fault. And if

1:06:33

I just try harder, it'll be

1:06:33

fixed. I get that. Very,

1:06:37

especially in relation. Yeah.

1:06:37

Oh, absolutely. It's so easy to

1:06:41

feel guilty about things. But

1:06:41

the thing that got me was just

1:06:46

like,

1:06:49

the last minute IV drip

1:06:49

of like, I've got it now.

1:06:53

Yeah, that was one of

1:06:53

them. The medicine thing was one

1:06:56

of them. Not very much. It was

1:06:56

based in science. And also, at

1:07:02

the same time, that was good.

1:07:02

And also just like, all of the

1:07:05

shitty things that happened. It.

1:07:05

It was a fine book. It was it

1:07:12

didn't strike me as like a

1:07:12

romance thing. Maybe.

1:07:16

I mean, like,

1:07:17

I feel like it was for I

1:07:17

don't know, I just like I you

1:07:20

know, I'm having a very

1:07:20

difficult time articulating why

1:07:23

I hated that so much, but I've reminded me,

1:07:25

there was a lot going on

1:07:25

outside of the Romans. I think

1:07:31

just all over. It was it was

1:07:31

definitely all over the place.

1:07:37

Um, yeah, yeah. And it's like, I

1:07:37

don't know. It's really hard.

1:07:43

It's okay. Just give me can you

1:07:43

start giving me numbers? Like,

1:07:46

give me me scale

1:07:47

him? One to five. Oh,

1:07:47

God.

1:07:50

He's fine. He gets a

1:07:50

three. He's fine.

1:07:53

Okay, fair. Yeah, middle read.

1:07:55

I heard her she gets a

1:07:55

four. I know. I understand. I

1:08:01

just love her just being like

1:08:01

feral mother mode activate. I

1:08:04

think it's hilarious. Um,

1:08:06

when she was a mama

1:08:06

bear. I was super into it when

1:08:09

she started snorting the cocaine

1:08:09

as a Pharaoh.

1:08:11

And I'm gonna give her

1:08:11

the benefit of the doubt because

1:08:14

her son is dying. She's going

1:08:14

through and that her son is not

1:08:19

only dying her son is in a lot

1:08:19

of pain.

1:08:22

So okay, fine. Put put

1:08:22

my cynical ass in its place.

1:08:26

You're right. You're so right. Like

1:08:29

no, you're not that

1:08:29

gives you it's a reason. Yeah,

1:08:35

excuse but it's all a reason it

1:08:35

makes sense. She wasn't just

1:08:38

like, yeah, being contrary, I

1:08:38

guess so.

1:08:42

I just kind of figured

1:08:42

that at this point. If you

1:08:45

haven't made it to the end of my

1:08:45

entire massive cynical sense.

1:08:51

Cynicism that's innocent

1:08:51

throughout this episode. Yeah.

1:08:55

Throughout this entire episode,

1:08:55

then Well, goodbye. But if you

1:08:59

have just know that I'm glad

1:08:59

level gladly be called on my

1:09:02

bullshit because you're right.

1:09:02

That is absolutely a way to

1:09:06

handle.

1:09:07

It makes it I don't

1:09:07

think that it's okay. But it

1:09:09

makes sense. So I'm gonna give

1:09:09

her four out of five and then

1:09:12

wonder mom stuff was pretty

1:09:12

cute. Yeah, that's pretty

1:09:16

cute. Um, okay. says

1:09:16

Good.

1:09:20

From what I recall. The

1:09:20

sex was good. I'm gonna give the

1:09:22

sex like a four out of five to

1:09:22

not like amazing. It was really

1:09:26

good for vanilla sex. Yeah.

1:09:26

Okay, that's fair plot. Oh, God,

1:09:31

um,

1:09:32

to say that I think

1:09:32

that's the thing that I don't

1:09:34

like about this is just,

1:09:36

but yeah, I mean, it's,

1:09:36

it's, I think where the author

1:09:41

struggled was with maybe this is

1:09:41

where as a writer, I find it

1:09:47

almost easier to go based off of

1:09:47

reality. Because yeah, I know,

1:09:52

Betsy, because thought is many

1:09:52

thoughts. Because then if you're

1:09:59

within the guide, the Got

1:09:59

guidelines of science, then at

1:10:04

least you have something to base

1:10:04

it off of, as opposed to like

1:10:07

once Wallace started started

1:10:07

working again, she didn't know

1:10:12

how to like put how to make the

1:10:12

plot concerning kiss, you know

1:10:17

how to like make the plot like

1:10:17

still interesting but but still

1:10:23

be based on the fact that she's

1:10:23

looking for a cure for her son.

1:10:29

No, I

1:10:30

think I can actually articulate why I don't like this and it does relate to the

1:10:32

science part, I think, like

1:10:34

Yeah, the plot was bonkers.

1:10:34

We've read but more bonkers plot

1:10:37

before. I take a lot of issue

1:10:37

with things that it's kind of

1:10:43

like the whole like, CSI thing

1:10:43

where all of a sudden things

1:10:48

work like oh, we sent this off

1:10:48

to the lab yesterday. Right? Got

1:10:52

a bath today and this Yeah,

1:10:52

salt. It's like shit that like,

1:10:55

it paints a not like just a

1:10:55

false, right? And it gives false

1:11:01

hope. I feel like and yeah, it's

1:11:01

a rubbish. Yeah. Well, no one's

1:11:03

coming down to look for hope

1:11:03

from their shit. But still,

1:11:06

like, that's not I don't know,

1:11:06

if you want to believe in

1:11:08

miracles, believe in them. Do

1:11:08

not ignore them. Do you? Not?

1:11:12

Exactly. You do not deserve

1:11:12

that? He really does. That's

1:11:16

what makes mirik rice. Right?

1:11:16

Yeah, yeah. And I will say one

1:11:21

other thing I want to mention in

1:11:21

regards to that is like, just

1:11:24

because this is framed in a way

1:11:24

centered around religion,

1:11:27

whereas it's the whole if I

1:11:27

believe hard enough, and like

1:11:30

all that stuff, that is by no

1:11:30

means always the case. And that

1:11:34

is absolutely not like people

1:11:34

feel entitled to things

1:11:38

happening to them because they

1:11:38

tried real hard without that

1:11:40

being part of it. But it is so

1:11:40

very often portrayed in

1:11:45

association with that, right?

1:11:45

Where it's like, Oh, if you just

1:11:49

believe hard enough, or have faith hard enough or pray hard enough, or if you sent me enough

1:11:51

money, I'll God will heal you in

1:11:54

some of the more extreme examples. Well,

1:11:56

the opposite is really

1:11:56

damaging where because the bad

1:11:59

thing happened. You didn't pray

1:11:59

hard enough. You didn't give

1:12:03

enough. It's your fault. You did

1:12:03

this exactly. And I think that

1:12:08

at the end of the day, even

1:12:08

though the book was going in one

1:12:10

certain direction before that,

1:12:10

like I think that it veered off

1:12:14

to It wasn't your fault. This

1:12:14

was gonna happen anyway. The

1:12:18

world is shitty. Sorry bout it.

1:12:18

Like

1:12:21

expect the worst. Yeah,

1:12:21

for the best maybe where it's

1:12:23

like it's still try hard because

1:12:23

what if it pays right? That's

1:12:26

awesome. Basically, what I'm

1:12:26

saying is gambling is great in

1:12:28

this instance, so okay, not

1:12:28

what's the next plot? Overall?

1:12:34

What? One to 1068 episodes

1:12:34

Marty.

1:12:41

What our numbers Oh,

1:12:41

he's coming to mind our next

1:12:44

episodes coming to mind is four

1:12:46

four. Hey, dude, go with

1:12:46

your gut. And hey, y'all, so

1:12:51

overall four so we had three for

1:12:51

him for for her that's like some

1:12:55

pretty high numbers across the

1:12:55

board except for the plot. Did

1:12:58

we actually give the plot a

1:12:58

number? I think I gave it a

1:13:00

chill still pretty solid. Yeah,

1:13:00

for Okay, yeah, I can get behind

1:13:04

that. Sure. All right. Well, uh,

1:13:04

hey, all next episode is 69. So

1:13:14

hey,

1:13:14

make sure you tune in

1:13:18

maybe we have something

1:13:18

we actually guys

1:13:21

we did. We played

1:13:26

if you are not on

1:13:26

Patreon gets your Yeah, because

1:13:29

something I get. So

1:13:33

excited.

1:13:34

Alright, so. Oh, Margie.

1:13:34

What else? Have you been

1:13:39

rereading Harry Potter?

1:13:39

I'm good rereading? I'm trying

1:13:43

to get through the series again.

1:13:43

Because my trivia has been way

1:13:46

off. I feel like so.

1:13:48

And everyone is in your

1:13:48

head as you're reading it.

1:13:51

Everyone is multicultural. Okay,

1:13:51

right. Yeah. Good. Good. All

1:13:55

right, y'all. Thank you. Oh,

1:13:55

thank you, Eleanor. You for the

1:13:59

use of your song. Oh, love off

1:13:59

the album be held. And Margie,

1:14:03

I'm glad you have a glass of

1:14:03

wine. You earned it.

1:14:10

And hey, if you think I'm a

1:14:10

cynical bastard, Candy bros.

1:14:16

Marty's the one that handles the

1:14:16

Twitter. All right, y'all. Thank

1:14:19

you so much. And remember next

1:14:19

episode is 69. Nice. Nice. Hell

1:14:23

yeah.