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Hey, you and welcome. My name is

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Mike. And in this all podcast, I'm

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at Telen au, the story

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of a man. A a big guy.

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A a big guy for you. And with the name

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Edward Robinson, you

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can probably see that coming. What

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you can probably also see coming

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is that he is going to be one

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big old bitch. What you may

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not see coming Hey,

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bet. The the gimp masks, the strap

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ons, and the International Council

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of Masters. Now know

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that that sounds pretty cool, but you'll

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be surprised. So so

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look forward to that. This slat

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has gone down downtown as the

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Internet's first Number

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one serial killer. Well,

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look at you. You know, at least he's he's number

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one in something. Britti

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goes to being number one in just all around

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piece of crap. Another name for him

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was the slave master

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which Whenever I hear that kind

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of name, it's very hard not

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to laugh because it's just it's

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pretty ridiculous and it's very very

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funny. To, like, for some kind of internet

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sex guy to be like, I'm Slavemaster,

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and then it's like, oh, really? You?

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I mean, this guy, he looks like

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ten pens sausage in a five pound bag.

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As far as, you know, Internet, BDSM

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names go. You know, you really

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do gotta give yourself a cool last name.

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Like, if if I if I, for example,

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hypothetically, was gonna be on one

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of these forums, wink wink. I had

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called myself something like something like

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the taint tickler, you know, something cool like

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that. I mean, slave master?

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It's not great really. It's

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just ridiculous. What wasn't though

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was John Boy, booby? Who

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in the Kansas City area committed

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a series of murders, a fairly

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a fairly long series of murders using

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internet chat rooms, as

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his prowling round. He was

1:54

also a serial fraudster, thief,

1:56

and bezeler among other things.

1:58

It's it's quite awry he had before

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it came to a shouldn't stop.

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There's a lot to get into. This will this will

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be a long one, so start yourselves in. So

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let's do just that. Let's give it

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a go. In

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June two thousand, cop cars swarmed

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a trailer park in Kansas and

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dragged a b dragled John

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Robinson out of his home. They

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had been tracking him for years.

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He'd been on and off the radar.

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But finally, it was time.

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And soon in oil drums, they

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would find the various women he had

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hired over the years,

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who would nearly always suddenly

2:47

write to their families saying they never

2:49

wanted to see them again. The

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story of John Robinson, it's long

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though, so let's let's go back and

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begin at that dang all beginning.

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Four in two days after Christmas nineteen

3:01

forty three in Cicero, Illinois,

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John Edward Robinson had Like

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almost the the cliche serial

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killer starts in life. An

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alcoholic father, Henry, and an

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overbearing strict mother with a

3:14

violent temper, Alberta.

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And I mean, come on. Like, with a name like that,

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Yikes. No wonder. At age

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twelve, Robinson joined the Boy Scouts

3:24

and was heavily involved with the Catholic

3:26

church. So much so that the

3:28

next year, he'd enrolled on

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a five year course, a quickly preparatory

3:32

seminary school with the hope of eventually

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becoming a priest at the end of his studies.

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That same year, he became an eagle

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scout. Apparently, he loved the

3:42

attention. He took like the ceremony

3:44

way too seriously. He would

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brag. I bet his new position. Hey,

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everybody. I'm an Eagle Scout. I

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don't care. Like if that

3:53

isn't a a massive kind of red flag, I don't

3:55

know what is, but that's a red flag he will

3:58

be routinely throwing up as we go

4:00

through this story. But As

4:02

we see, you know, the very first tiny bit

4:04

of power Robinson's got, he milked

4:06

it like to the nines. As part

4:09

of his Eaglescape duties, he was part

4:11

of a small delegation that flew to

4:13

England and were presented to

4:15

Queen Elizabeth II. More

4:17

attention for this fucker. Robinson

4:19

would later claim in many interviews that

4:22

throughout his time he was being constantly

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abused by his

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mother. According to Robinson, she

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would shed out insults out of her for no reason

4:30

whatsoever.

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And

4:32

if she felt he'd even looked at her the wrong

4:34

way, she would straight up,

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meet the living shite out of

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him. That no surprises were

4:39

him being a big old SNM fan later

4:42

in life, I suppose. That

4:44

quickly, the partying the party increased

4:46

school. His studies were not

4:48

going well at all. They is

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something that comes up again and again with him. We'll

4:53

see this multiple times. If it

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didn't come easily to him, he

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simply didn't bother essentially. He

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was either This is gonna be, you know, clean

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sailing or not having

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it, not just not having it. He was in constant

5:06

trouble and would not stop getting

5:08

into petty arguments that often

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escalated into physical fights, which

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fellow students. So, like,

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kinda sounding like the opposite of a

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priest. He was like an all around

5:20

disruptive influence and spent as much time

5:22

in detention as he did in

5:24

a lessons. As a result, he

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would leave quickly at the end of only

5:28

his freshman year. In

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nineteen sixty one, a seventeen year

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old Robinson enrolled. At the Morton

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Junior College in Cicero, a

5:37

Chicago suburb, initially hoping

5:39

to become an x-ray technician. However,

5:43

with no surprise it didn't take long for

5:46

Robinson's delusional self

5:48

view to overtake his actual

5:50

abilities once again, and

5:52

he adjusted his his realistic

5:54

plan to the much less likely

5:57

plan to qualify as a doctor instead

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from trade technician to full

6:02

on, physician. Unsurprisingly,

6:05

Robinson's plan wouldn't last and he dropped out

6:07

after two years. At Morton,

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So priests x-ray

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technician. Doctor.

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Shit it. Three

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years later, in nineteen sixty four,

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Robinson moved to Kansas City,

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Missouri, where he met unmarried Nancy

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Joe Lynch. This kind

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of sort of seemed to spur him into

6:29

action as over the next year,

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Robinson would find a job as an x-ray

6:34

tech at children's mercy and general

6:36

hospital, downtown Kansas

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City. I

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hear you back in big dog. Well, See, Johnny

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Boy didn't need that. Not when he could just

6:47

draw up the diploma himself.

6:49

Like, drawing up in Crayon.

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I mean, I mean, sure. Right? Sure. He

6:54

didn't have the degree truthfully, but

6:56

he did have the degree lifely.

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He even he even went so far as to fake

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recommendation letters from Morton.

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The college he attended for less than two

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years, man. Back in the day,

7:08

it was just so easy to fake

7:10

this shit. Good times. Now,

7:13

he told the hospital he was studying to

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become a doctor, and he just needed a night

7:17

job to get him through his studies.

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Sadly for Robinson, it's not as easy

7:22

to fake being X-ray tech as it is

7:24

to to make some certificates, and

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John would be discovered and fired

7:29

fairly quickly. I mean, the staff

7:31

realized You know, it didn't

7:33

take him too long to realize he actually had no idea

7:35

how to work the x-ray machines. I mean, Ray,

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if you're gonna lie your way into a job,

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At least, you know, it might actually help if you

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know how to do it, so you aren't discovered

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like immediately. And

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in a piece of glorious timing,

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this was right before Nancy would

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give birth to the couple's first child,

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John Junior, in nineteen sixty

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five. Not not of this

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like seminal, you know, very important life event

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meant meant literally anything

8:03

to Robinson who would who was known to be

8:05

constantly cheating on Nancy and would, like,

8:07

regularly leave her to go look after

8:09

the newborn while he was a who's so proud

8:12

he's having a grand no time. He's going out to clubs

8:14

with his his many girlfriends. Very

8:16

nice. The next year, Robinson

8:19

managed to managed to black himself another

8:22

X-ray tech job at the Foundation Plaza

8:24

x-ray laboratory under a doctor

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Wallace Graham. He's the michelangelo

8:29

of bullshitting this guy.

8:32

Hell, again, he managed to blag his way to

8:34

this job. It's impressive.

8:36

I'll give him that, you know. And Robinson, he

8:38

took full advantage of his new position.

8:41

And by taking advantage, I mean

8:43

stealing and embezzling thousands of

8:45

dollars from the practices accounts.

8:48

Just just six months. After

8:50

just six months into the job, he completely

8:52

emptied them off funds. I mean,

8:54

how did he gain access to all of this

8:57

and how they didn't notice? The

8:59

answer to that is, again, back

9:01

in the day, good good times.

9:04

Good times. For some,

9:06

not all. For Robinson for sure.

9:08

He was also known to be sleeping with several

9:10

patients and coworkers at this time.

9:12

He went so so far as to brag

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to his boss's fifth fifteen year old son

9:16

that all the shit he was

9:19

up to and all his sexual exploits.

9:21

I mean, he was like, what a cool

9:23

guy? You know that? That feels they need to impress

9:25

a fifteen year old. That's the kind

9:27

of guy John Edward Robinson was.

9:29

The only people he could impress were children.

9:32

It's pretty cool. Somehow, Robinson

9:34

managed to fly under the radar for three

9:37

whole years, during which time

9:39

Nancy would give birth to the couple's second

9:41

child, a daughter named Kimberly. As

9:44

was always the case with John,

9:46

his shady actions eventually came to light

9:49

and the walls fell in on him. Oh,

9:51

no. The consequences of my actions. He

9:53

was ultimately arrested and charged with

9:55

embezzling thirty three thousand dollars

9:58

from doctor Graham and his practice. He

10:00

was convicted on theft charges and got

10:02

three years probation. So,

10:05

I mean, hey, come on. Probation after

10:07

this. Right? He he really needed to keep

10:09

his nose clean for at least

10:11

the next couple of years if he if he wanted

10:13

to stay at a prison. Let's

10:16

see if that happened. In

10:18

nineteen seventy less than a year after

10:20

receiving probation for the embezzlement of

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thirty three thousand dollars, Robinson

10:25

would be arrested again.

10:27

This time, for stealing six thousand

10:30

two hundred stops. Yes,

10:32

stops. From the mobile oil

10:35

company where he'd been working for a

10:37

short time. Now he got fairly

10:39

lucky and he managed to make deal with the

10:41

ProScure, offering to repay what

10:43

he'd stolen and return the charges

10:45

would be dropped to a misdemeanor and

10:47

that would keep him out of jail.

10:50

So, you know, what should have been a positive

10:52

step for John and his family? He

10:55

managed to make a total total of mess

10:57

of it. You know, like, he's given this opportunity

11:00

to kind of, you know, fly right that

11:03

John, he took that opportunity bundled

11:05

up in his hands and his trued over his shoulder. So

11:07

what he did next was he accepted work

11:10

selling insurance for the Orbi

11:12

Jones Company. And in order

11:14

to accept the job, John took his family

11:16

to live in Chicago where the company was

11:18

based. This, moving

11:20

to Chicago from Kansa City just

11:23

how it happens to be a direct violation of his

11:25

probation conditions. And

11:27

to make matters worse, John didn't even bother

11:29

to tell his probation officer And

11:32

the thing is though he was actually doing really

11:34

well in this new job. I mean,

11:36

it seems if John was anything natural

11:39

salesman would be it, a full on bullshitter

11:42

for sure. Unfortunately, he was also

11:44

a natural born idiot and a thief, and so he

11:46

helped himself to over five thousand

11:48

dollars from Orbi Jones company.

11:51

Once again, he was arrested, he was

11:53

charged, and in a stroke of luck, John

11:55

was able to strike a deal to drop charges

11:58

on the condition that he pay restitution.

12:01

Yet again, this is like, how many times has

12:03

he been arrested? Ah, just Don't

12:05

worry about it. You know, I'll drop the charges and I'll

12:07

pay it back wink wink. Like you shortly

12:09

after, the Jackson County Court in Kansas

12:11

also ordered Robinson to return to

12:13

the state and for his probation

12:16

to be doubled from the original three years

12:18

to six. So with little

12:20

choice, John complied with the order. He

12:23

returned to Felicia Kansas, relocating

12:25

to a bigger house in Missouri after Nancy

12:27

gave birth two twins, Christopher, Ankristine,

12:30

He's ever arrested twice. Three times,

12:32

actually. He's been arrested three times. Basically,

12:35

he has done nothing, like no

12:37

time, no consequences for any of them.

12:40

What do you what do you think that would happen

12:42

to career criminal, essentially?

12:45

It won't make them get better anyway. It just teaches

12:47

them shit, I didn't get away

12:49

with anything. That's exactly what happened to

12:51

John. See, then, then what

12:53

John did was set up his own company a

12:55

medical consulting business called

12:58

Professional Services Association Inc.

13:01

Which what

13:03

a name? It could literally be anything. I think that's,

13:05

like, the most generic name for a company

13:08

ever. Definitely not a scam.

13:10

Incorporated. And again,

13:12

someone with no credentials, a history

13:14

of lying, But goddamn could

13:16

j e or bullshit with the best.

13:20

Using this company, John managed to

13:22

get a gig with the University of Kansas

13:24

medic center as a business consultant

13:26

for its family practice department.

13:29

Again, how he managed to

13:31

get into these like universities

13:34

and hospitals with literally no

13:37

proof of doing anything, so

13:39

mad for one man. But again, As we've

13:41

seen before, it didn't take long for people to realize

13:43

he didn't have a clue what he was doing,

13:46

and he would raise suspicions by Apparently

13:49

requesting the company's checkbook,

13:51

like literally just asking

13:54

for the keys to their bank account at

13:56

this point. He was caught in his latest

13:58

fraud, Afri forged a whole bunch

14:00

of letters attempting to validate his own

14:02

company's status. This led him

14:04

to appear in front of a federal grand

14:06

jury in Missouri, where

14:09

he was indicted on charges of securities

14:11

fraud, mail fraud and for falsely

14:13

misrepresenting, PSA

14:15

Inc. Professional Services Association,

14:18

the most prestigious company

14:20

in Missouri. He ended up entering

14:22

a plea of no contest in turn for

14:24

a two thousand five hundred dollar fine

14:26

and another three years on

14:28

probation, which brought his running

14:30

total up to nine years. So

14:33

again, that's four times. Still

14:36

just probation. That's all he's

14:38

got, which is essentially get out of jail free

14:40

card for a guy like John. Over

14:43

the next year, he kept kept himself

14:45

busy, you know, rebuilding his life.

14:47

The family moved to a new house,

14:49

and John warmed his way

14:51

into a scout master position with

14:53

the local the local scouts. He

14:55

also coached a t ball team team.

14:58

He refereed volleyball games and got

15:00

an occasional position as a Sunday school teacher

15:02

at a Presbyterian Church. Like

15:04

he was really worm his way into the

15:07

local community being, hey, listen, I'm just

15:09

a good old fashioned, you know,

15:11

guy he wants to participate and help the kids

15:13

and a community guy at heart. Daily

15:15

all this was still being on probation for

15:18

multiple thefts and embezzling tens of

15:20

thousands of dollars. He was even

15:22

named Man of the Year by

15:24

a charity for less able people, of which

15:26

he'd managed to wrangle himself a role onto

15:29

their board of directors. Amazingly,

15:31

like, while he was on this board of directors,

15:34

he used this position to order

15:36

supplies that enabled him to forge

15:38

a letter from the executive director

15:41

to the mayor and further

15:43

letters from the mayor to other

15:45

notable local figures and civic

15:47

leaders like he was writing letters, pretending

15:50

to be the mayor, doing all this sort of

15:52

stuff, and the letters were to invite the recipients

15:54

to the charity's presentation of

15:56

their Man of the Year award. Now,

15:59

just to say, the Man of the Year award didn't

16:01

actually exist. John made

16:03

it up in order to present it

16:06

to himself. How much I'm really just

16:08

great. And it was played with an awards

16:10

lunch, you know, in his own honor. Like, this is the

16:12

Oscars or something. Like, if only

16:14

all of Robinson's crimes had been as harmless

16:16

and ridiculous as this one, they

16:19

were not. And he hasn't he hasn't even killed

16:21

anyone yet. Well, at least that we know

16:23

of. I mean, he was such a he was such

16:25

a goddamn criminal, though, from head to toe.

16:27

His deception, it was once again quickly realized

16:30

when the people whose names he'd forged in

16:32

the letters read about the award

16:34

in the paper and they're like, I am not

16:36

endorse I never endorse this asshole.

16:39

But this is just like when he became Eagle Scaled

16:41

all over again. Amadai,

16:44

just great. And of course,

16:47

during this time John was beating Nancy

16:49

and generally making life hell for

16:51

his family. He purchased two

16:53

horses short for a short while

16:55

and was neglecting them completely.

16:57

Like, all all in all, his behavior was becoming

17:00

more and more selfish. And more and more

17:02

cruel. He also set up a

17:04

new hydrophonics company called

17:06

Hydro Row, in which

17:08

he persuaded a friend who needed

17:11

fast money to pay for his dying wife's

17:13

medical care to invest twenty

17:15

five thousand dollars of his life savings

17:17

into the new business. Like obviously John was

17:19

saying, Give me your life savings and

17:21

I'll give it back to you three times

17:24

more. John being John,

17:26

he took the money and his friend got nothing

17:28

and his wife's his dying

17:30

wife never got that medical

17:31

care. Do you think by the way that's

17:34

the lowest John Edward Robinson can go?

17:36

Thank you again. And my friends. In

17:39

March nineteen seventy nine, John,

17:41

now aged thirty six, was finally

17:43

discharged from federal probation.

17:46

Receiving a glowing, whoa,

17:48

glowing report from his probation officer.

17:51

John celebrated his new beginning

17:53

by immediately finding a new job

17:56

as an employee relations manager

17:58

at a company called Guy's Foods.

18:01

We took He took full advantage

18:03

of his new position. One,

18:06

having a fair with his secretary and

18:08

two, using her to help him embezzle

18:10

tens of thousands of dollars by adding

18:12

fake employees onto the payroll and

18:15

cashing their chicks. Rinse

18:17

and repeat. This is like what he's done with every job

18:19

so far. And as you can imagine, he was

18:21

fired as a result less than a year later

18:23

and charged with felony theft,

18:26

submitting false vouchers and check forgery.

18:28

He was ordered to pay over forty one thousand

18:31

dollars in restitution. But

18:33

John, he pushed his look a little

18:36

too far in the autumn of nineteen

18:38

eighty one. When he cashed a false

18:40

six thousand dollars check and as result

18:42

of a guilty plea, received his very first

18:45

custodial sentence, sixty days

18:47

in jail to be served from May nineteen

18:49

eighty two. Yeah.

18:52

After all that, multiple frauds

18:54

adding up to over hundred thousand

18:56

dollars receiving awards

18:58

that don't exist. And all of

19:00

the other shit he was doing, he got a hole,

19:02

an entire WOW! We were sixty

19:05

whole days in jail. Yep!

19:08

And not even prison, jail.

19:10

Like, he was having a great old man. No wonder

19:12

he thought he could get away whatever he wanted.

19:14

Like, shit. If if that's all I got for what he

19:16

did, like, Why wouldn't you

19:18

do what he was doing? You know,

19:20

sixty days in jail for stealing over a hundred

19:22

thousand dollars? There's no consequences

19:25

to his actions whatsoever, so

19:27

Happy Day's Lads. After his

19:29

release, in the summer of nineteen eighty

19:32

two, John such that his third company

19:34

called Equa Plus. Now

19:36

by this age, Robinson and John Robinson, he

19:38

had gained himself quite a reputation

19:41

in his neighborhood. He'd become

19:43

notorious for his indecent proposals

19:45

towards local women. And on at least

19:48

one occasion, this led to a physical

19:50

fight with an understandably very

19:53

angry husband. Later in

19:55

the fall of eighty two, Robinson

19:57

would meet a man named Herb Blatner.

19:59

Now you can probably guess with a name like

20:02

that, he has heard out to be one right piece

20:04

of shit. Though I guess I shouldn't be attacking

20:06

him because he ratted out John. Who

20:08

would want to become Robinson's partner

20:10

in crime over the next couple

20:12

of years. Together, they would

20:14

pretty much spin off Aqua Plus and start

20:16

a new sister company called Equitoo.

20:20

These names are incredible. Just

20:22

setting up these phony companies so that he get away

20:24

with whatever. Sinister shit they wanted to.

20:26

And over the next few years, the

20:29

two, they would run petty scams together

20:31

under the guise of trying to get their

20:33

legitimate business up and running, you know, the

20:35

whole. Invest with me helping my

20:37

you know, making business proposals, invest

20:39

in this company, blah blah blah, never

20:42

see your money again. But he seemed

20:44

like such a nice boy. In

20:47

May of nineteen eighty two, Herb

20:49

set Robinson up with a woman who was looking

20:51

for a divorce. Eef introduced

20:53

Robinson as an attorney who,

20:56

as a favor, would sort the divorce out

20:58

for her if she just paid him two hundred

21:00

dollars and signed her car over to him.

21:03

Of course John and Herb split the money and

21:05

Ron, I mean, really, come on now.

21:07

When do things gonna happen? It's

21:09

around this time, though, that things

21:11

spiraled wildly. And

21:13

John did away with what

21:16

little control he'd had over his darker

21:18

tendencies. By nineteen

21:20

eighty four though, John, he was already forty

21:22

years old. So it said likely, you

21:24

know, know what we know about serial killers.

21:27

That John Edward Robinson really indeed

21:29

wait till now to finally snap and start killing.

21:32

But if he did, which could be the case,

21:34

it definitely makes him a more interesting and unique

21:36

case among serial killers.

21:38

Like, they tend to start a good bit earlier

21:40

than when he started because my friend's story

21:42

is gonna get darker.

21:46

No one way putting it. So

21:49

as I said, by now, in nineteen eighty four,

21:52

John had two Shell companies

21:54

on the go, which allowed him and herve

21:56

to run their various scams. John,

21:59

he saw another opportunity, however,

22:01

when he hired nineteen year old

22:04

Paul Godfrey to work for him

22:06

as a sales rep at Equitoo. Not

22:08

long after, Paul and Godfrey told family

22:11

and friends Robinson had arranged

22:13

for her to go away for training.

22:16

Uh-oh. He picked her up from

22:18

her parents home in Overland Park, Kansas

22:20

on the first of September nineteen

22:22

eighty four. Then after

22:25

hearing nothing more from her, her

22:27

parents became worried and they contacted the

22:29

police to file a missing person's reports.

22:31

Several days after, police. Police

22:34

officers, they interviewed Robin and John

22:36

Edward Rumsen about polo, Godfrey, and

22:38

he told them that he had dropped her off at the airports,

22:41

didn't know where she went after she got the car

22:43

deal. Yeah. Drop her off, never seen her again.

22:45

Hey, I'm a victim here too. She just ditched

22:47

me. Her family then received a typed

22:50

letter, signed at the bottom apparently, signed

22:52

by Paula. In the letter, she said

22:54

John Edward Robinson is such a great

22:56

dude. My family, I'm

22:59

happy, but I just don't ever want to see

23:01

you ever again. Paul

23:03

Godfrey, she was nineteen years old. She was

23:05

considered of a legal age to make her

23:07

own

23:07

decisions, and police they wouldn't pursue

23:10

the matter any further. I

23:12

guess it kind of goes in at saying though, hi

23:14

friends, Polly Godfrey was never seen from or

23:17

heard from again. No.

23:19

Also in nineteen eighty four, Robinson used

23:21

Equit two to set himself up in a new

23:23

business. Using the company's

23:25

name, Equity two, John, he rented

23:28

a duplex and he turned it into

23:30

a ruffle specializing in bondage, SNM,

23:33

and rough sex. He'd he was

23:35

now making the leap, you know, from nondescript

23:38

businesses in general bullshit.

23:41

Too hard core stuff. But I guess

23:43

that's just really what John Edward Rumson

23:45

really loved. Hey. Do you know what they say? Get

23:47

a job doing what you love? You'll never

23:49

have to work a day in your life. He

23:51

hired a woman named Linda Stephen

23:54

Jones to be the Madam and

23:56

take care of the day to day running of his new

23:58

establishment. Hey brothel. In

24:00

addition, he tasked her with finding and recruiting

24:03

new girls to live and work at

24:05

the brothel. Robinson,

24:07

he also became active in a secretive,

24:10

S and M cult called the International

24:13

Council of Masters. Where?

24:18

He was known by the title of Slavemaster

24:21

for the very first time. Now,

24:24

international kancel My

24:27

god, why don't they? Like, with a name like that, it's

24:29

like the Illuminati of choking me daddy. This

24:31

is incredible. I love I just

24:33

love that name. I think sure you know a lot of people

24:35

meeting at a circular table in

24:37

in some kind of bunker. All of them

24:40

wearing nothing but gimp masks and strap

24:42

ons. As part of his duties,

24:44

John, he would bring young girls to meetings

24:46

to be used as victims of the

24:48

International Council of Masters, their

24:51

beatings, and various sexual

24:53

cults. Some something that, you know,

24:55

no doubt his connection to the brothel which

24:57

he owned came in handy, I guess.

25:00

John was becoming more and more violent and

25:02

more unhinged from the constraints

25:04

of of normal society. In

25:09

nineteen eighty five, Linda Stasi and

25:11

her four month old daughter Tiffany, they

25:13

were staying at a women's shelter in Kansas

25:15

City, where they met a well dressed,

25:17

non trending man named John

25:19

Osborn. Osborn, he was

25:21

launching his new program. Behalf

25:24

the city outreach program. So, hey,

25:26

Lee sent if me they needed some help,

25:28

happy days. Lisa

25:31

was an early participant in the program and

25:33

Osborn John Osborn, he'd taken a shine to

25:35

her, offering her a trip to Chicago

25:37

for job training, and he even offered

25:39

to pay for her room and her board.

25:42

He, Saturday and prior to departure for

25:44

the trip to Chicago, and he asked

25:46

her if she'd signed some papers for him.

25:48

So that, you know, he could use them to update her

25:51

parents about how things were going for her.

25:53

On January ninth, John Osborn

25:55

picked Lisa and her daughter up from Lisa's

25:58

sister Kathy's home, and he

26:00

took them to a local hotel. The

26:02

roadway in. Sometime

26:04

the next day, Lisa called her

26:06

mother-in-law, Betty, and and said

26:09

something about they telling her

26:11

she wasn't a fit mother and that

26:13

they told her that Betty

26:15

even wanted custody of Tiffany. Like,

26:18

Lisa was saying this too betty, so this was

26:21

bit out of the blue for betty who never wanted

26:23

to take Tiffany from Lisa. Who

26:26

they even were was a question

26:28

mark? Lisa then said on

26:30

this phone call, here they come.

26:32

Before the call cut out and the line

26:34

disconnected. Marie,

26:37

Lisa's family, they called the Roadway

26:39

Inn in Overland Park, but

26:41

they were told by the staff there

26:43

that Lisa and her baby had already

26:45

checked out. They asked, you know, who

26:47

had booked the room, and they found that the name

26:50

was not Osborn as they were expecting.

26:53

But was a name known to them,

26:55

but well known to you and I. John

26:57

Edward Robinson. These SaaSies,

27:00

they soon found out that local businessman

27:02

John Robinson, he had a business called Equitue.

27:05

And so, Lisa's brother-in-law went

27:07

to the offices to confront to front,

27:09

John Robinson, about where the hell Lisa was?

27:11

What was going on? Who's they?

27:14

What's this job bullshit you're going

27:16

on? Apparently though he got

27:18

nowhere speaking to John

27:20

Robinson and so Lisa's

27:22

own family and her in law family they

27:25

went to the police. When

27:27

the police approached John Robinson about

27:29

Lisa that her family was very worried,

27:31

John spun them a whole tale

27:34

about a mystery boyfriend named Bill,

27:36

Coming over to the offices picking up Lisa and

27:38

Tiffany, and then they all left for Colorado.

27:40

Never seen her again. She just ditched

27:43

me. These stories are sending certain

27:45

sand familiar. But again,

27:48

like Apollo got from godfrey, there was no sign

27:50

of him being dishonest. Police,

27:52

they talk about his word, and they left.

27:55

A few days later, just as with

27:58

Paula Godfrey, a letter arrived at

28:00

the home of the Stasi's types and

28:02

signed by Lisa. In the

28:04

letter, Lisa said her

28:06

and her new boyfriend, Bill, had

28:09

taken Tiffany and were moving to Colorado

28:11

to start a new life together.

28:14

Now her in law in laws, you know, immediately

28:16

suspicious, knowing that Lisa

28:18

didn't know how to type and

28:20

nothing about the letters like nothing in

28:22

the letters of interactions made any

28:24

sense whatsoever. Unfortunately, these

28:26

signatures were genuine, And

28:29

so once again, with little else to go

28:31

on, authorities failed to pursue

28:33

the case any further, deeming the

28:35

letters enough to indicate her and her form

28:37

of old were fine and well. Now,

28:40

you're probably thinking, oh, hey, the signatures were genuine.

28:43

How did he get that because this story

28:45

is obviously bullshit. Well,

28:47

you gotta remember John Ed Robinson, expert

28:50

Forger. So

28:52

There you go. Either that or had a gun to red

28:54

made her sign

28:55

it. So it's not really hard to guess what happened

28:57

to Lisa Stazzy after she left that hotel.

28:59

But What happened to Tiffany Stazi,

29:01

who was her four month old daughter, is

29:04

possibly even more messed

29:06

up. See John

29:08

Edward Robinson knew that his brother and

29:10

sister-in-law, Don, and Helen

29:12

Robinson, they were desperate for a child.

29:14

But they had been unsuccessful and conceiving.

29:19

What a look, never went to miss a chance

29:21

to make a quick Quick and devious dollar.

29:23

John called his brother and he told them

29:26

that he'd fanned them a baby that had been put

29:28

up for adoption by the mother. And

29:30

so, you know, John's brother and

29:32

his wife there were overjoyed by

29:35

this end, so they set up for Kansas

29:37

from their home in Chicago immediately. And

29:39

just two days later, they'd be driving

29:42

the journey back to Chicago with

29:44

their shiny new four month old in

29:46

tow and borged, adoption

29:49

papers in hand. John,

29:51

for his part in, you know, facilitating

29:54

the quote unquote, adoption,

29:56

was near five and a half grand richer.

29:59

Both Lisa, Stazizioblood family

30:02

and her in law family, they received further

30:04

typed and assigned letters all

30:06

on the same stationary, of course. And

30:08

the police once again, Mio. They

30:11

deemed it not suspicious enough to

30:13

investigate and bother with, how

30:15

incredibly messed up. But you're here

30:17

just to to let you know what exactly

30:19

happened there? Tiffany Stazzy, She

30:21

will be renamed Heather Robinson and

30:23

raised by Don and Helen Robinson.

30:26

It wasn't until she was fifteen

30:29

years old, she found out the adoption

30:31

process her parents had. Her parents had always been

30:34

very open with her about was

30:36

way less normal than it should have been.

30:38

Not only was the man she knew as

30:40

uncle John, in fact, a vicious

30:42

serial killer, her own mother had

30:45

been one of his victims.

30:47

Like he can imagine trying to reconcile the

30:49

truth with the loving family who raised

30:51

her must have been I

30:53

mean, damn. That's that's rough.

30:56

So back to John Edward Robinson and

30:58

the various shenanigans he was up to.

30:59

Finally, in March nineteen eighty

31:01

five, John's Choice of Business

31:04

Partners. Would come back

31:06

to bite him in the arse when

31:08

Euve Blotner struck himself a deal

31:10

with the actual real life secret service.

31:13

A deal that would keep him out of jail and land

31:15

John right in his place.

31:18

This version story, it's pretty

31:20

wild, so listen up

31:22

folks. And this is really the part

31:24

in the story where John's look should have

31:26

run out. But well,

31:28

you'll see. Blattner, right, he agreed

31:31

to sign a statement that tied

31:33

John Robinson to several of

31:35

their illicit and illegal

31:38

activities. All the various scams

31:40

and shit they had been up to. On

31:42

the 21st of March, as part of his regular

31:44

visit to his probation officer, Stephen

31:47

Hames, John Robinson was

31:49

arrested on multiple charges. See,

31:52

John's probation officer Steven

31:54

Hames, he was a bit of a he was ahead of the curve

31:57

when it came to. At John Robinson,

31:59

he had caught on that that, you know, something was

32:01

wrong, and he was investigating what

32:04

his ProBA T. He was investigating him,

32:06

like, through several lines of inquiry himself.

32:10

One of those inquiries led him to

32:12

discover John Robinson's connection

32:14

to two missing women.

32:17

Paul Godfrey and Lisa Stasi. So

32:20

this probation officer, you know, with his suspicions

32:22

in hand, Steve connected

32:24

with a contact in the FBI. And he

32:26

asked, hey, are you guys looking into him?

32:28

Maybe you should be. No, the FBI weren't,

32:31

but soon they would be. With the FBI

32:34

on the case, it didn't take long for them to

32:36

stumble across the Secret Services investigation

32:39

in to Erve Blattner and John Robinson's

32:41

fraudulent activities. John,

32:44

these two Equita two, uh-huh, Equita

32:46

plus whatever. These scam businesses, they

32:48

had suddenly gone they'd gotten

32:50

on the radar. Of some law

32:52

enforcement agencies. Sadly,

32:54

there were no treads leading to

32:57

the missing women. The investigations into

32:59

these two guys, it wasn't a bit really their well,

33:02

especially into John and Rumson, where he wasn't

33:04

about his his extracurricular activities at

33:06

all. The federal investigators they

33:08

focused largely on the falsifying

33:10

of government checks by Blattner

33:13

and Robinson, as well as several of

33:15

their other less savory business adventures,

33:17

but really false find checks?

33:20

That was what landed them in the shit.

33:23

Now initially, the FBI they considered

33:25

using a female agent to pose

33:27

as a potential sex worker, hoping

33:29

to get employment in John Robinson's

33:31

brothel. They even had the agent to

33:33

meet with Robinson under the guise,

33:36

you know, But after

33:38

hearing that Robinson expected her to be able

33:40

to take pain, including

33:43

having Employers used

33:45

on her nipples. The FBI

33:48

immediately dropped the plan out of fear for her safety.

33:50

Yeah. Not worth it. I mean, It

33:53

was an SNM brothel, but

33:55

yeah, no. But I don't

33:57

think it's a good idea to send anybody in there.

33:59

What the FBI Ben did instead was

34:01

contact John Robinson's business partner,

34:04

Herv Blattner. They knew he would sell

34:06

at Robinson to save himself and so

34:08

they approached him with a deal and just

34:10

as they thought. Eirve Lattner jumped

34:12

on it to throw his business

34:15

partner JE or John Ed Robinson

34:17

isn't a fire so he could save himself.

34:20

The next part of the story is a little bit more

34:22

insane though because that was,

34:24

like, Eirve Gartner would only sign a

34:26

statement incriminating John Edward

34:28

Robinson for all of the shit, all their scams

34:31

and illegal activities he was up to. But

34:33

the FBI wanted a little bit more

34:35

evidence against against him.

34:39

See, the FBI did have another more

34:41

trustworthy witness against Robinson. A

34:44

young twenty one year old woman named

34:46

Teresa Williams. Williams

34:48

had come from Boise, Idaho, working

34:50

odd jobs around Kansas City while

34:52

she was, you know, just looking for a break.

34:55

On her search, she was introduced to

34:58

John Robinson, who offered her a

35:00

rent free apartment along with

35:02

paid expenses and she would earn money from

35:04

sex work He would even hook her up with

35:06

the amphetamines and weed to

35:08

sweeten the deal. Wow. She's like

35:10

a he's her daddy coming in. He's like, her sure, daddy.

35:12

You know? Pepper Jack. Exponent's gonna provide

35:14

it all for Teresa apartment, drugs,

35:17

and money. So in late April

35:19

nineteen eighty five, Teresa Williams was

35:21

given twelve hundred dollars by Robinson given

35:23

a fancy dress, and she was picked up

35:25

from the apartment he had set her up

35:28

in. One day, a car

35:30

pulled up for her. She was taken in

35:32

a limousine blindfolded. To

35:34

a house, she would later describe

35:37

as a mansion, where she met a

35:39

man she knew only. As

35:42

the judge. This

35:44

man led her to a BDSM

35:46

basement playground full of

35:48

various torture devices. He then

35:51

put her on a rack and began

35:53

to stretch her. I guess

35:56

it goes without saying this was

35:58

the International Council of Masters.

36:01

So unsurprisingly, Theresa

36:04

Williams, she panicked She broke head and tears.

36:06

She was begging to let her go. She didn't

36:08

sign up for this shit to be stretched on

36:10

the rack. Like, she's got done William

36:13

Wallace and Braveheart. She was then

36:15

blindfolded and badly shaken

36:17

from the experience she was driven back home.

36:20

But when John Robinson found out about

36:22

this about what had happened. He was

36:25

none he was none too pleased with

36:27

Teresa's way. After all, he was her sugar daddy

36:29

and she wasn't playing ball. He demanded

36:32

all the money back, and he sexually

36:34

assaulted her with a revolver. They

36:37

they later made up however, and Robinson

36:40

told her he had a way to make

36:42

it back up to him. As John

36:44

Robinson at this point, he was sure that his

36:46

partner Herb was setting him up.

36:49

John Adam Robinson? Dick

36:51

had, but not an idiot. He had

36:53

his suspicions that Erb was gonna

36:55

set him up and and throw him into the

36:57

into the fire in his in his place. But

37:00

but I mean how John and Rumson

37:02

learned that his business partner was

37:04

was a rat, was betraying him, or whether he

37:06

just guessed he got vibes, no

37:08

one actually knows. So

37:12

what Robinson did, he enlisted Theresa

37:14

Williams in helping set up IRF butner.

37:16

First, It's like the deal Uno

37:19

reverse card. He had her keep a diary,

37:21

a fake diary detailing fictional

37:23

run ins with herb butner. And even

37:25

the outlandish death threats

37:28

he'd allegedly made. John

37:30

Edelbaum said he must have known that,

37:33

you know, him and Erf had

37:35

popped up on the radar of various law enforcement

37:37

agencies. He knew Erb was gonna

37:39

betray him, and so he's like, well, I'll betray you

37:41

first, but he So Teresa Williams,

37:43

she was now telling all of this to the agents

37:46

who were investigating Sean Robinson,

37:48

now they had paid her visit hoping to get further

37:50

incriminating information about Robinson.

37:53

And the reason she began telling all this was,

37:55

well, when the law enforcement agents they told

37:58

her that John Ed Robinson was linked

38:00

to two missing women. And so she was like,

38:03

well, after he dropped her off at a mansion

38:05

to be put on Iraq, she might be

38:07

next. So she also became a

38:09

witness against John Edward Robinson,

38:11

and she told the law

38:14

enforcement agents that His plan was

38:16

after framing IRF Bladder, Robinson

38:18

was set to bake that

38:21

Williams' murder and then take Teresa

38:23

Williams to the Virgin Islands that

38:25

shouldn't he's gonna fake your death? Probably

38:27

scratch out the fake part, though, and then

38:29

he would allegedly move away out of

38:31

the country. Now agents

38:33

knew straightaway what John Edward Robinson's

38:36

real plan would be, and they moved Theresa

38:38

Williams into protective custody. They

38:40

knew She wouldn't mirror any too

38:42

much longer. They contacted Steve

38:44

Hames, the probation officer, and they asked

38:47

him to do his best to get John Edward Robinson's

38:49

probation revoked. Haynes, he

38:51

used the gun possession and supplying droves

38:54

to Williams as grands to get Robinson

38:56

off the streets. Robinson

38:58

appealed and he was let out on bail pending

39:00

the results of his appeal. And

39:04

the charges would collapse when the FBI,

39:06

fearing for Williams' life, kept

39:09

her hidden and then ultimately gave her

39:11

a ticket out of a state. Because

39:13

of this, the Missouri Court of Appeals

39:15

deemed that John Robinson's constitutional

39:18

right to face his accuser had

39:20

been violated. So

39:22

once again, he got lucky and gotten away

39:24

with it, at least for the time

39:26

being. And that was close

39:29

as shit. So to sum up, the feds were

39:31

investigating. Investigating him,

39:33

he had one partner betray

39:35

him and signed a sworn statement saying

39:37

he was up to all this shit, and then he had

39:39

another, well, I guess she was a victim

39:42

ready to testify against But

39:44

because they feared for her life, she

39:46

couldn't and then kind of almost on a technicality,

39:49

he got off Scott free. How he

39:51

managed to get away with all this shit

39:53

is insane when he had all these law enforce

39:55

enforcement agencies, like

39:57

he was in their crosshairs, and he still managed

40:00

to walk. Come on now. It

40:02

wouldn't be until nineteen eighty seven

40:05

when John was forty three years old

40:07

that he would finally do some proper prison

40:09

time. When he received four

40:11

years for multiple frauds. That

40:14

would be the most he would receive after

40:16

all those investigations. That's that's all

40:18

he got. He was actually convicted in January

40:20

nineteen eighty six, but it wasn't until

40:23

all his appeals had been heard. They would

40:25

finally rock up Behind bars

40:27

in Kansas in May eighty seven.

40:31

Near John, you know, in prison, he

40:33

made the most out of his time And John,

40:35

while he was out on appeal before May

40:37

nineteen eighty seven, he made him

40:39

he had around all the time, as yet another

40:42

young woman he employed disappeared.

40:47

Twenty seven year old Katherine Klampet

40:49

of Wichita Falls, Texas. She'd

40:51

answered an advert, John Robinson had

40:54

placed in the paper offering a quote,

40:56

great job, lots of travel, and

40:58

a new wardrobe. On June

41:00

fifteenth, her brother, Robert Bales,

41:03

contacted the police after he hadn't heard

41:05

from Katherine for several weeks

41:08

Yet again, yet again,

41:10

police couldn't find sufficient evidence to

41:12

link Robinson to the woman's disappearance.

41:16

So then, He went to to prison

41:18

and apparently he was an exemplary inmate

41:21

during his sentence, using his his

41:23

germs to get by with other inmates and

41:25

with guards. He was

41:27

even given a job as coordinator of the

41:30

prison's maintenance operations office.

41:32

This was the first time John

41:34

would get some hands on experience with

41:37

the prisons computer systems, and he

41:39

even played a part in developing a program

41:41

that saved the prison over one hundred

41:43

thousand dollars a year. Though

41:45

he might, you know, have been well behaved in

41:47

the system and that's not to say though his

41:49

time in prison was uneventful during

41:51

his prison since His father

41:53

died and John Edward Robinson

41:56

himself suffered several strokes that would

41:58

leave one side of his face paralyzed and

42:01

frozen. After serving his

42:03

initial four year sentence, John

42:05

was transferred from Kansas to Western

42:07

Missouri Correctional Prison to serve another

42:10

three years for for an earlier fraud.

42:13

Daniel was here that John met and

42:15

befriended the prison's librarian. Forty

42:17

seven year old, Beverly Bonner, and her husband

42:20

and the prison doctor William Bonner.

42:23

And the Bonner is where just

42:25

the well g shocks Take it in

42:27

by Robinson's Sturm, Beverly especially

42:29

so. And when John was finally

42:32

released from prison in nineteen ninety three

42:34

at the age of forty nine, Beverly

42:36

divorced her husband and moved to

42:38

Olathe, Kansas. She told

42:40

her now, ex husband, she'd found

42:42

a new job and would be traveling almost

42:45

nonstop for work. She

42:47

gave him a post box number he could

42:49

be used to mail her alimony checks as

42:51

she traveled. Naturally. Like,

42:54

this is his he uses the same shit

42:57

again and again after she left her work, Beverly Bonner

42:59

was never seen from again. Though for

43:01

years, her mother mailed her alimony checks

43:03

to that PO box and

43:05

John he would eventually he

43:07

made so much from the savings that these checks

43:10

added up to. He was able to put

43:12

down a ninety five thousand dollar

43:14

deposit on a house for his son, daughter-in-law,

43:17

and their children. Well, at least

43:19

he was using the way to help somebody, I suppose.

43:22

In the summer of nineteen ninety four,

43:24

John used newspaper ads to lure

43:27

in his next Victor. When

43:29

her husband died of cancer, Sheila

43:31

Dale Faith was left on her own with her

43:33

daughter, Debbie, who relied on a wheelchair

43:36

due to being born with Spina Biffler. The

43:38

two, they scraped by on Debbie's

43:40

disability checks. And so Sheila

43:42

thought she'd hit the lottery when

43:44

she met John. Don't they all?

43:47

John told her money, not an issue, and

43:49

that he'd provide for her and Debbie, he'd

43:52

even take her on a cruise. Sheila

43:54

and Debbie had planned to visit John in

43:56

Kansas during their upcoming trip to

43:58

Texas. They said we're on our way Texas

44:01

anyway, we'll stop by. But

44:03

instead, John was not waiting around.

44:05

Instead, he drove down to Fates home

44:07

in Pueblo, Colorado in the middle of

44:09

the night. Again, the mother

44:11

and daughter, they were never seen again, but

44:13

there was little little to nothing actually

44:16

to connect them to John at the time.

44:19

Just like he'd done with Beverly Bonners

44:21

Alemani, he began collecting faith's

44:23

disability checks. No doubt,

44:26

while also probably giving that to the money

44:28

he gave John junior. Around

44:31

this time, John and his wife

44:33

moved into a new mobile home in Olaf,

44:35

Kansas. In Santa Barbara

44:38

estate, oh, sounds very

44:40

fancy, you

44:40

know, for I mean, it's a trailer park. But,

44:43

you

44:43

know, he was known in his neighborhood,

44:45

though, as being The

44:48

neighbors quickly got like remember on

44:50

when he moved to his place in Missouri and

44:52

he got involved with the eagle scouts

44:54

and Sunday school and,

44:57

you know, after school sports programs. This time

44:59

he was cutting at all that shit. He just

45:01

kind of Like throughout John's

45:03

life as he gets older and older he stops. He's

45:06

removing the facade one bit at a time

45:08

because he quickly became known in

45:10

this neighborhood. As the

45:12

creepy guy. He had a reputation

45:14

for slowly driving his golf cart

45:16

past women's houses and looking

45:18

in their windows. When he

45:21

knew their husbands or their partners were

45:23

out. Ladies and gents,

45:26

nonsense, labs. He'd also

45:28

spend the majority of his time in front of his

45:30

five computer screens, fucking five

45:32

of them. He really didn't want

45:34

to miss a thing. Non stop searching

45:37

through various early BDSM sites

45:39

online. I tried this period

45:42

that John was also engaging in several dominant,

45:44

submissive relationships with various women,

45:46

and some of those relationships would last

45:48

lasted years. One of

45:50

these was with an upper class woman,

45:53

John had connected with Trune Adverts in

45:55

an alternative magazine. At

45:57

first, everything had gone well between

45:59

the two? Though,

46:01

you know, we Like, though what might

46:04

have transpired between them would be

46:06

considered maybe a little bit extreme. It was

46:08

always consensual. That was just what

46:10

they were into and they wear and hurt anybody. Actually,

46:12

scratch out John was hurting everybody, but, you know, she

46:14

was So the two, they'd meet up

46:16

often, you know, twice a week. Until

46:19

this woman discovered that John had lied

46:22

to her and he wasn't divorced

46:24

as he had told her. Now that's

46:26

that was a small lie. Really?

46:29

You know, in the grand scheme of things for John,

46:31

But she began to become lot

46:34

more worried when John later

46:36

tried to get her to detail her

46:38

financial assets. Hey,

46:41

know, he's asked her, just give me everything you know. You

46:43

know, you have or let me know what

46:45

you have. And then he even tried to

46:47

have her sign blank papers after

46:49

inviting her on a trip to Europe together.

46:52

He was trying to get her signature obviously

46:54

so he could forge it in the future. I mean,

46:57

what kind of questions is that like just between

46:59

the pegging and the spanking. He was also

47:01

like, hey, listen. By the way, do you wanna just list

47:04

out every single thing you own? How much? How much is

47:06

your house worth your car worth? And what do you have in your bike

47:08

cans? And then, well, I'll get back to strangling

47:10

you then after that. Eventually,

47:12

she lost and was trusting him that she broke

47:14

things off altogether. She

47:17

got away. Now she was very,

47:19

very lucky. Over the next

47:21

couple of years, John fell into a modus

47:23

operandi. The modus

47:26

operandi who'd become most known for.

47:28

Using the early internet and

47:30

email to connect with and manipulate his

47:32

future victims, It's probably one of the

47:34

earliest examples really we have here of

47:36

Internet grooming. It was also around

47:39

now that he'd begun frequenting media

47:41

cement chat rooms band and message boards

47:43

under the moniker of slave

47:46

master. In nineteen

47:48

ninety seven, John used the Internet and

47:50

chatrooms to connect with a young woman

47:52

named Isabella Luica. Isabella

47:55

was a Polish student studying fine

47:57

arts at Purdue University in North

47:59

Central Indiana, were shipped with

48:01

her university professor parents. Later

48:04

that year, Isabella told her parents

48:06

she was dropping out of her studies to accept

48:09

an internship she'd been offered with

48:11

a rich entrepreneur in Kansas City, Missouri.

48:14

No worries is for guessing who this entrepreneur

48:17

actually was. She

48:19

also signed a one hundred and fifteen

48:22

1115 folks page

48:24

document that was ostensibly

48:26

a slave contract between herself

48:28

and Iran's like, how much Like,

48:31

what is in those one hundred and fifteen pages?

48:34

And Brady must cover literally everything.

48:37

Man, for obvious reasons, she never told her parents

48:40

about any of her BDSM leanings

48:42

and nothing about this contract. After

48:44

moving to Kansas at the end of nineteen ninety

48:46

seven, Isabella registered at a local

48:48

community college under the name? Isabella

48:51

Luica Robinson. Oh

48:53

oh, lord. And even wore a wedding

48:56

ring John had given her. John

48:59

even paid for a marriage license, though he never

49:01

actually collected the papers. He put her up

49:03

in an apartment in South Kansas City,

49:05

and he regularly visited for some

49:08

good old BDSM sessions. And

49:10

Joan would introduce her as his niece,

49:12

his adopted daughter, or even as

49:14

a graphic designer working for his company.

49:17

All of those things are gross. In

49:19

the summer of nineteen ninety eight, Isabella

49:22

told friends that she'd made at a local bookstore

49:24

that John would be buying her books in the future,

49:26

and she'd be moving away. She'd

49:29

be moving pretty far away as in

49:32

out of this world. As

49:34

with several women before her, Isabella

49:36

was never seen again. Unlike

49:38

the others though her family, they didn't. Receive

49:41

letters typed and signed. Instead, in

49:43

an ever two, he's moving with the times. John

49:45

Robinson, he sent the family multiple

49:48

emails reporting to be from their

49:50

daughter. He would make up various excuses

49:52

as to what actually happened to her. Like he told

49:54

one person, a web designer that he'd

49:56

hired to work in his latest business venture.

49:59

That Isabel had been caught smoke in

50:01

Mary Jane, and so she'd been

50:04

deported as a result. Over

50:06

the next few years, he would continue to send emails

50:09

to Isabelle's parents until he was finally

50:11

caught, years, though years

50:13

down the line. By

50:15

the fall of nineteen ninety nine, John

50:17

Robinson had already zeroed in

50:20

on another victim. He met a

50:22

twenty seven year old health care worker

50:24

from Monro, Michigan named

50:26

Suzette Shrouten, he met her in a BDSM

50:28

chat room just as he had with Isabella.

50:31

And again, just as with his previous

50:33

victim, Isabella, John, he promised

50:35

her a sixty thousand dollar

50:37

a year job along with near

50:40

constant world travel, taking care

50:42

of his wheelchair bound diabetic. Father.

50:45

And I mean, as you can imagine unsurprisingly, like

50:47

Suzette, she couldn't afford to turn down such

50:49

a lucrative and life changing offer. And

50:51

so she started making plans like immediately to

50:53

move a city to take this job. Man,

50:56

I mean, here, listen. It's worth noting though

50:58

that John's father had already been dead for ten years

51:00

by this point, he died when John was in prison.

51:02

So John Robinson, he flew Suzette

51:04

Troton out to Kansas City. He picked

51:06

her up at the airport in a limousine. She

51:09

called home and she told her mother the job

51:11

interview had gone very well, though

51:13

she hadn't met, you know, his father yet who

51:16

she was supposed to be taken care of. He told

51:18

her that his father had a yachts, and they

51:20

were planning on sailing to Hawaii,

51:22

and Suzette was to join them on the trip

51:24

to take care of his father. Now,

51:27

before her big move out to Kansas permanently,

51:30

Suzette gave her mother Carlin, a

51:32

paper, some papers with John

51:34

Robinson's name and phone number on it.

51:36

She also hired a truck a truck

51:39

on paper to to drive

51:41

at her two pekingese dogs, Harry

51:43

and pecka, from Michigan to Kansas. And

51:46

you know, once he had Suzette in Kansas

51:48

City, he combined his old methods

51:50

with his new ones over the next couple of

51:52

weeks. He rented out a room for

51:54

Suzette. He, you know, channels for

51:57

her dogs, as he told him as he told her,

51:59

you know, the dogs, they couldn't come on the yacht and the apartment

52:01

weren't allowed in the apartment. He then had

52:03

her apply for passport and had her

52:05

signed several blank papers, which she

52:07

would use to correspond with her family during

52:09

the trip as him. You're gonna be you won't be

52:11

you'll be too busy to talk to your family. I'll write letters

52:14

home for you just to let them know you're you're getting on

52:16

okay. In addition though,

52:18

he also gave her a similar slave

52:20

contract to the one he'd given Isabella the

52:22

year before, another hundred and fifteen pages.

52:25

Suzette now had been keeping in contact with

52:27

a friend named Lori through another

52:29

BDSM website, and she had told her

52:31

everything about Robinson, the

52:33

slave contract, and her new job. Souzette

52:36

was also calling her mother every day, giving her

52:38

little updates and telling her how well

52:40

everything was going. Then

52:42

One day, Robinson paid for Trenton's

52:45

room. He checked the restaurant. He also

52:47

checked the dog's head of the boarding kennels.

52:49

The hotel clerk and the workers at the animal

52:51

shelter, they never saw Suzettes,

52:54

they never saw or leave, they didn't see her

52:56

gliding her dogs, they only ever saw John.

52:59

Later, that very same day, Animal

53:01

Control got a call from someone at

53:03

the Santa Barbara estate's trailer park.

53:06

Someone had left two small pekingese

53:08

dogs in a travel carrier outside

53:10

the main entrance's office. Carol

53:13

and Trenton, her mother, you know, obviously

53:15

already on edge and concerned about her daughter's decision

53:18

to upsticks and move to Kansa's added blue.

53:21

You know, she was she was already feeling a bit

53:23

worried about it. And then she didn't hear hear from

53:25

her daughter for weeks. And so

53:27

she would call John Robinson. And

53:30

John told Caroline, very,

53:34

very similar story. Suzette, she

53:36

didn't take the job. She actually changed her mind

53:38

at last minute. She up, up sticks

53:41

and ran off with a young fellow named

53:43

James

53:43

Turner. Some James Turner guys, swept shoes

53:45

that offer feet, and they ran away together.

53:51

No. All I got was I got a little note

53:53

to, like, his postcard thing and saying

53:55

that they were they were off on Off

53:59

on their adventure? We haven't

54:01

heard anything in a couple weeks, and I'm really getting

54:03

nervous.

54:04

Oh, I don't don't you know, I wouldn't

54:06

get nervous.

54:08

I'm nervous because he always called me.

54:10

So

54:11

Well, I from what I understand there,

54:13

they're on a boat somewhere. Can can I hear

54:15

the call? I am really getting very nervous

54:17

about this. I don't know if I should

54:19

will he call the police or something?

54:22

Right.

54:22

Well, because I have an her number and that's not Honey,

54:24

she's a honey, she's a big girl. He

54:29

even accused who's out of stealing money from

54:31

him before before she fled with this

54:34

with this imaginary James Turner man.

54:36

Caroline, she didn't think John Robinson's

54:38

story was even slightly believable,

54:41

and then she received several typed

54:43

letters claiming to be from Suzette Well,

54:46

that just confirmed it for Caroline. At

54:48

the same time, Suzette's friend Lori from

54:51

the BDSM websites She

54:53

was trying to get in touch with Suzette,

54:55

and she received the exact same bullshit story from

54:57

from John. And so Lori joined Carolyn

54:59

in searching for and pressing for the police

55:02

to find her friend. The

55:04

two of them then began receiving emails

55:06

signed from Suzette but

55:08

Carlin knew they weren't

55:10

from, actually from her daughter, who

55:12

she described as being a poor speller.

55:15

But the emails and all, they were mistake

55:17

free, didn't sound like her daughter

55:19

at all. She was convinced that John

55:22

Edward Robinson had done something to her

55:24

daughter. Carlin, she then filed

55:26

a missing person's reports. And unlike

55:28

the neighboring Overland Park PD

55:30

who had neglected to pursue any

55:33

of the previous missing women and their connections

55:35

to John Robinson, this wasn't gonna

55:37

happen this time. Suzette's case

55:40

It landed on the desk of detective David

55:42

Brown. And detective Brown set

55:44

out to thoroughly investigate Suzette's

55:46

disappearance And her connection to John

55:49

Robinson, and after taking 1A1

55:51

simple look at that Robinson's rap sheet

55:53

and talking to detectives from

55:55

Overland Park, Brown knew.

55:58

He was onto something. And so a

56:00

task force was set up to investigate

56:02

John Edward Robinson once again

56:04

including the FBI. And

56:07

one of the first people, agents

56:09

from this task force turned to was

56:11

once again, Stephen Haynes,

56:14

the very first person to catch on to

56:16

Robinson's bullshit, and he was more

56:18

than happy to brief this task force on

56:21

his suspicions. Robinson's criminal

56:23

history, which now now was over twenty

56:25

years long. Needless

56:28

to say, they just decided more and

56:30

more they needed to get John Edward.

56:34

In the spring of two thousand, John

56:36

Robinson began sending money to a woman

56:39

named Vicky in Texas. Vicky,

56:41

she had recently lost her job and was struggling.

56:44

So she was the perfect victim for a man

56:47

like John Robinson. The task

56:49

force, they'd boomed Robinson's phone by now,

56:51

and they were fully aware of his contact

56:53

with Vicki. They also knew

56:55

that she was planning to visit John over

56:57

Easter weekend. And so

56:59

they took to the neighboring hotel room

57:01

and listened in on them meeting

57:03

up. And well, along

57:06

with hearing some very, very rough

57:09

sex, Robinson also forced

57:11

her to several things she was very

57:13

uncomfortable with as well as taking

57:15

photographs of her while she was tied up and restrained

57:17

despite, you know, her saying,

57:20

do not do that. He would also he

57:22

would hit her harder than she was ever

57:24

okay with. He took her possessions that

57:26

she brought with her and he told her to return

57:28

to Texas on a way further Instructions

57:30

now this incident on its own was enough to constitute

57:33

sexual battery, but the agents knew there

57:35

was lot more to him than just this.

57:37

And so they continued their surveillance on Robinson,

57:40

watching him even more closely than they

57:42

ever had been before. So

57:44

he was trying to turn Vicki into, like, I guess,

57:46

some sort of submissive person, but

57:48

it didn't last long. When he

57:50

sent her back, he already moved on to

57:52

the next victim. This time

57:54

John was talking like, and you can see here

57:56

he's moving kind of quickly, cycling through them quicker

57:58

and quicker and quicker. Like this

58:00

time John had been had begun talking to a thirty

58:03

four year old divorcee named Jean.

58:05

Much like Vicky Jean was from Texas, but

58:08

on like Vicky, She had no interest

58:10

at all in the BESM lifestyle. She is

58:12

more lured to John by the offer

58:14

of work. And so John Edward

58:16

Robinson, he introduced himself James

58:19

Turner. Remember, that's the name

58:21

he previously conjured up in his attempt

58:23

to explain away whatever happened

58:25

to Suzette Troton. So

58:27

after alluring Jean in with talk of

58:29

employment, well, he quickly worked

58:32

BDSM into their relationship. And

58:34

the two laid out their individual likes and

58:36

desires. This led to Robinson

58:39

who she knew as James Turner inviting

58:42

Gene to come and stay with him for a long

58:44

weekend. Gene, she would accept

58:46

and the two would spend the weekend hold

58:48

up in a hotel room and engage in various

58:50

sexual types of intercourse, flogging

58:53

BGSM, the whole, kicking kaboodle. And

58:55

before she went back home, before the weekend was over,

58:57

she agreed that she would move to

58:59

two Kazes to work for hydro

59:02

grow and specialty publications, some

59:04

of his latest bullshit companies.

59:07

So Jean would return to Kansas to make

59:09

the move permanent. Robinson,

59:11

John Robinson, he put her up in the same

59:14

guest house suites where he had kept Sousette

59:16

Trenton, only a couple months prior,

59:18

And over the next few days, the couple they had

59:20

six few times and Robinson would come and go as

59:22

he pleased. Then, one

59:25

day in May, Robinson called

59:27

the Gina and he told her, be ready

59:29

for me. He was on his way over.

59:31

She should be on the floor, kneeling on all

59:33

fours with her hair tied back. When

59:36

John arrived, he was none too pleased

59:38

to see she was not in the position he

59:40

demanded and he set about punishing

59:42

her. Things got very

59:45

rough, and he beat he essentially

59:47

beat the shit out of her. And this was this was way more

59:49

than she ever consented to. He even started

59:51

photographing her the bruise as he was giving her.

59:53

Like, this is far from consensual at this point.

59:56

It was just a savage beating. After

59:58

that, he gave her one hundred dollars and said,

1:00:00

get out of here. Jean, in

1:00:02

hysterics, at this point, she ran

1:00:04

down to the front desk and she tried to call the police

1:00:06

after she was beaten up. But

1:00:09

she was so shaken the desk clerk had

1:00:11

to finish the call for her. When

1:00:13

Jean asked her the name on the credit card

1:00:15

that had been used to book the room,

1:00:18

Then she saw the name of the credit card was

1:00:20

John Robinson and not James Turner.

1:00:23

She then told the police everything.

1:00:25

Detective David Brown, he was two months

1:00:28

into his investigation at this point. When

1:00:30

he arrived at the guest head suites meant he new

1:00:32

gene, She was actually months

1:00:35

like surprisingly one of the lucky ones.

1:00:38

Things then came for a head for John

1:00:40

Robinson in June two thousand. When

1:00:43

police cars flooded into the Santa

1:00:45

Barbara States in Olaf and placed

1:00:47

an apparently shocked, John

1:00:49

Robinson under arrest. Taking him

1:00:51

to the Johnson Kennedy jail on

1:00:53

the battery charges for Jean. At

1:00:56

the same time, detectives and agents were executing

1:00:58

multiple warrants under various properties

1:01:00

owned by John. Now they arrested

1:01:03

him on the on the battery charges, which

1:01:05

I mean, with all he's done comparatively minor,

1:01:07

but they did this so they could they could keep

1:01:09

him. You can see what John's doing. He's You

1:01:12

have to keep him away or else he will just

1:01:14

kill more people. So they had

1:01:16

a behind virus and began searching

1:01:18

the properties that he owned and he owned quite a few.

1:01:21

They took off five of his computers, they

1:01:23

even discovered a literal paper

1:01:25

trail when they found a piece of the paper

1:01:28

that Lisa Stasi had signed fifteen

1:01:30

years earlier in January of eighty five,

1:01:32

as well as receipts from the roadway

1:01:35

hotel in Overland Park that proved

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he checked her out of the hotel on January

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tenth right before she disappeared.

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The warrants they also covered a ranch

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John had bought, turkey miles away from

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his home. That ranch, the final

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nail was hampered into Robinson's reign

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of terror with the discovery of

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two fifty five gallon oil

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drums. Inside the drums

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were the decomposing bodies of Suzette

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Triton and Isabella Laueca, that

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things couldn't get even. More

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grim. Police carried out a further

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search at a storage facility in Missouri

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where they found three more of

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those fifty five gallon drums. You

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probably have a good idea of what's coming. Inside

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the bodies were Sheila, Nandebi

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faith, and Beverly Bonner. Legal

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proceedings finally started against John

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Edward Robinson with a preliminary hearing

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on the fifth of February two thousand and one

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He was charged with two cans of first degree

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murder for the killings of Isabella and

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Suzette, two cans of fraud,

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over fifty forgery charges, one

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count of aggravated kidnapping in Suzette's

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case as well as multiple charges

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already brought a year earlier relating

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to Beverly Bonner and the Fates.

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Robinson ultimately stood trial for

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seven felony charges, including three

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capital murder cases that each

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carried the death penalty. It

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wouldn't conclude until January two thousand and

1:03:01

three when John and Robinson was found

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guilty on all counts. And he

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was sentenced to life in prison

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and also to death

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sentences. Which I'm

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kinda does that kinda cancel each other out then.

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So it's like zero dead sentences. Well,

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one of those dead sentences along with

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the life sentence was actually overturned on

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a technicality by the Kansas Supreme

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Court The death

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sentence, though, for Isabella Luica,

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that that still stands. In

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October, two thousand three knowing that they

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couldn't prove that Robinson had killed all the

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women, authorities agreed to a deal with

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Robinson that demanded to a to a guilty

1:03:37

plea and another life sentence for Robinson.

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But it did mean he would avoid further

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death penalty cases however. So

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to this day, John Robinson is still

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on death row at the Eldorado Correctional

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Facility in Kansas, and that

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is where we leave him, a truly

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terrifying, manipulative piece of work.

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And by work, I mean, shit. The buddies

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of Paul are Godfrey, Lisa Sassy and Katherine

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Plappett, still to this, they have

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not been recovered. And

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Robinson, he's he hasn't mentioned

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recovering them. He

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simply doesn't seem to give a shit.

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He's a totally, you know, unremoreous serial

1:04:16

killer, like a pure criminal who lasted

1:04:18

years. And he the problem I have really

1:04:20

with his case is he just got away with it.

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For so long. With

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all the shitty polls, he was able

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to still skip a down

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the road having ground up time. I think it's amazing.

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But at the same time when he had no quants,

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consequences to what he did, it's not surprising

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he steadily just got more and more

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violent. The legal system never

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cared what he was doing until the very end, and

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many lives were absolutely ruined beyond

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repair. Thank you so much for listening.

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It really means the world's me. Thank you.

1:04:49

I I don't think I'll ever be able to thank you enough for for

1:04:51

just all the love and support I'm getting. Really

1:04:54

means a lot to me. So hope you enjoyed the episode.

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Really, really crazy one. Another

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serial killer. It's I'm always amazed, like, I I

1:05:01

didn't really know. Are you here with John Ed Robinson

1:05:03

before he started looking into, but yeah, wow, what?

1:05:05

A guy hits you. Unfortunately, there

1:05:07

doesn't seem to be any shortage of John

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Edward Robinson's out there, so I'm sure

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it'll be similar coming up very, very soon. But

1:05:13

until the next one. Podcasts Mondays

1:05:16

and Fridays, videos every Tuesdays. I'll

1:05:18

see you when I see you next, I guess.

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But, you know, you know what? Take

1:05:23

care of each other. Take care of yourselves because

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I love you. Micah.