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Hey, you, and welcome. My name is Mike.
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And in this old podcast where you folks,
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folks, fellow
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patriots, I have for you too.
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Get them two separate stories
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for you. There now, these are two stories.
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In one podcast, we're doing a two for
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Both of these are absolutely shit
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your puns terrifying. So look
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forward to that, I guess. And both
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of the stories in this podcast are
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about serial killers
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in the cities of Phoenix, Arizona
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and Scottsdale, Arizona. Now, I'm kind of like giving
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you a two for here on these ones guys. Because Scottsdale
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and Phoenix are like pretty much I mean,
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come on to pretty much the same city. They're like right
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by each other, so that's not, you know, beat around
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the bush here. The first story have
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Hugh Revolved. I
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mean, it happened in the past, but I'm telling you to you
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know, there was two serial
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killers active at the same time
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in the city of Phoenix during two
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thousand and five and
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two thousand and six. If you can believe
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that two serial killers active in the
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same city at the same time.
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That's a hearty hell no from your boy over
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here. The second story I have for you today
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is said in Scottsdale and it was
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a race against the clock for the
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police to find the killer as
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a number of people a whole heap
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of people who were involved in a court
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case started dying one
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by one by one. And the police
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needed to find this killer before he
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struck again. And although
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both of these stories, you know, they were separated
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from each other by over a decade,
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there was in fact one person
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who was involved in both doctor
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Steven Pitt. He was helping
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out the police in the first story In
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the second story, he was a victim.
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So before we get into this one,
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folks, if you enjoyed and I really
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hope you do, what do I say?
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Your enjoyment is my priority.
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Please, you know, subscribe to the podcast. Give
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me a nice little review. The
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whole five stars, anything it all really
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does really does help out folks. And
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now let's give it
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a go. It
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all started. It all began. It was
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bird in the summer
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of two thousand and five. That summer,
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it was long. It was hot.
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Towas a hoodie. It's all the good stuff right there.
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Although it's in Arizona, so I'm pretty sure
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all their summers are long and hot.
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But this one was like that but more. Enduring
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that summer over the months, there had
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been like strange signs, you
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know, kind of rumors whispered
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about some odd characters in town.
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Gunshots were hurt. Police reports
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were filed. And there were some
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strange shooting bets. That
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largely remained unsolved. It was
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as if you know, there was there was something
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in the air. Maybe it was
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the exposure Maybe the
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hot Arizona sun was scrambling people's
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brains. Vote just fed up, you
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know, had enough of this.
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Or maybe something new had
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arrived in town and was making
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itself known. It
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was when Georgia Thompson's body was
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found, that the police knew
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there was something more to what was going on
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than they had initially thought. Georgia
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was nineteen, an exotic dancer, and
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on September ninth two thousand and five,
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her body was found in the car park of
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an apartment building. She'd been
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shot in the head. Her pants had
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been unbuttoned, but she hadn't been
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sexually assaulted. And at
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the scene, the police found a bullet
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casing. Now in
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the preceding months, there had been random
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shootings and what started with dogs
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and cats and even horses being shot
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quickly spread to humans The
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homeless manly, the so called
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less dead. Called the less dead
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along with sex workers, because
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police rarely investigate terminally when those
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murders occur. In addition to
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this, a number of sexual assaults were
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reported, and it was on the increase.
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In August two thousand and five, one
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month before George's body was found,
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there had been a number of sexual
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assaults on teenagers near the
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baseline road in South Phoenix.
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That area had become a hotspot, and
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the perpetrator was still at large.
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The number of attacks in Phoenix would increase
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exponentially over the next two
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months. Four more in September
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alone, Tree Moore in November,
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a mix of robberies, sexual assaults,
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and random murders on the streets
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of Phoenix. A man Nathaniel
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Shaffner was shot and killed on the side
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of the road trying to protect his dog.
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Sometimes the attacks would occur within minutes
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of each other. A shop being held up
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by good point before the perpetrator ran
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out of a store and dragged a passing
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woman into his car to be sexually
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assaulted. It was anarchy and
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it was terrifying. In
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December, Things
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didn't get any better, shockingly. On
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December twelfth, Tina Washington
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was shot in the head as she walked home
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from a preschool where she worked. That
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same day a man named Jose Ortiz
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was shot and killed walking the streets.
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Before two thousand and six, Rangan,
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there would be another robbery, shooting,
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and murder in the city all linked
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together. But without any
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clear perpetrator. It was
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then the police began to theorize there
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wasn't one person behind all of this
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there were two. See, in some
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instances, random people were
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shot at as they strolled down the road
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and witnesses who survived the attack were
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able to tell the police it was a
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light, blue, bored or car
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that the shots ran out from. In
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the other case, well, the cases were
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linked as a number of sexual assaults
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had occurred along baseline road.
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There were of course other murders where
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they hadn't been linked yet.
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In February, two thousand and six,
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two more bodies were found. Those
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of Ramellia Vargas thirty eight,
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and Mirna Palma Roman twenty four
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years old, They were killed inside
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a food stall they both worked at, The
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Grill King, and both had been
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shot in the head. The next
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month Chiao, George Chu,
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twenty three years old, and Liliana Cabrera,
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twenty years old, were abducted
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from behind a restaurant they worked
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at. Ciao
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was about to give Loyana a ride home when
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they met. Someone, both
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were fans shot to death. It
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had been Liliana's first day
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on the job. Now
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you might be a little confused at this
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point so many attacks. Who's,
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who, who did what? And well,
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you weren't the only one. The city
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was confused, but more than anything
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scared. A dark cloud was
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hanging over the city. The killing seems
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to be intensifying. The killers
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were brazen. Not just going
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after alone less dead,
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but sometimes abducting two people
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at a time, a man and a woman.
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The police knew there were two
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serial killers, at least two.
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And if it was two, well, they
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were working overtime. One
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killer was shooting from cars, doing
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drive bys, the other assaulting
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women and shooting them on whoever they
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were with, if they resisted.
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It continued. Two weeks after
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the restaurant employees, Chao and Liliana
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were taken, a sex worker
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was found stuffed between a building
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and a shed. A month later, a woman
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was abducted by a man wearing a
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Halloween mask. The next
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day, another drive by shooting.
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And twenty year old Claudia Gutierrez
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Cruz was murdered. The
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police at this point came up with Nicknames
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ridiculous, e. You gotta have a nickname.
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Otherwise, are you a real serial killer?
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Are you though? The drive by
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sniper was named the serial
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shooter. They didn't know the car
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make or model. They just
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knew it was a light colored sedan.
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The other killer was called the baseline
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rapist. Due to the early attacks
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being located along or near
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baseline road. The murders
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were eventually connected to the sexual
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assaults. And so then the baseline
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rapist became the baseline killer.
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And a sketch was circulated of this
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person. Who at this point, May
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two thousand and six? They had eighteen
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separate crimes linked to
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whoever this monster was. That
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number would later rise substantially.
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As other past incidents were reviewed.
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But there would be one more
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victim of the baseline killer before
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he was caught. On
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June twenty ninth two thousand and six,
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at nine thirty PM, the baseline
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killer struck for the final time.
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This time though it would be captured on CCTV
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and shake Phoenix to its core.
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Not to be dramatic though, I suppose I
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think you know what everything we've gone through.
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This warrants it. A woman
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named Carmen Miranda was cleaning
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her car at a car wash, while at the same
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time she was on the phone to her boyfriend.
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As she was speaking to him, she told him
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a pan handler was approaching her.
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She then screamed, and
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the phone, it went dead. Hours
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later, her body was found in a building next
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door. Her pants unbuttoned and
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shot in the head. The CCTV,
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it's very hard to make it really anything
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other than two people struggling.
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One person forcing the other into
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the back seat of the car. And then
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the car door closes. Everywhere
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people were watching their back, watching every
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car that passed them on the streets, never
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knowing if one of the serial killers
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could be right behind you. The baseline
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had started well on a near baseline
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road, but it had spread across
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the city both killers were
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taken over. Two
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task forces were created to stop them.
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The serial shooter case had three hundred and
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seventy five people working on it the baseline
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killer one hundred. Though
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after what happened to Carmen Run
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at the Car Wash, the baseline killer
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went underground. The
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serial shooter, though, seeing well his
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time to shine, Neil can't have the baseline
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stealing the spotlight, ramped up.
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Eight more people were shot in July
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two thousand six with the final murder
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taking place on July thirtieth.
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A young woman, Robin Blasnick,
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shut and killed while walking down the street,
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talking on the phone. By
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this time, the baseline killer had murdered
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eight women and one man. An
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assaulted over thirty tree, women.
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The serial shooter had killed at least
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eight and wounded eighteen talk
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about a year of fear. There
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were no leads, no suspects, nothing.
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But then, there was something. And
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a one hundred thousand dollar reward will
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usually, I, you know, loosen
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some lips and sink. These
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serial shooters ship. In
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a bar called the star dust tavern,
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Northwest Phoenix. A guy named
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Ron Horton had been told some things
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by a dronk friend.
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The drunk friend was named Sam
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Denim. And he told Ron he had
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been involved in the shootings. Raginibertus,
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having a grand old time telling this old story.
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But then becoming remorseful.
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When the serial shooter's last victim
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was, well, serially
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shot Ron having, you know, kept
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this information to himself for few weeks.
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And now he was feeling like he
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could have prevented it. He called the police.
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Though it also helped that the reward had
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just been offered, what what rewards
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didn't even realize. Ron
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gave the police Sam's number. They
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traced it and also prevailed a man
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Sam used to live with, one Jeff
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Hauser. Tailing them both,
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they happen to see some getting into a
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light colored sedan. Maybe
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one of the survivors said bullets came
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from a light colored sedan. The
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plates of that car led to
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one Dale Housner, Jeff
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Housner's brother. It
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turned out that Dale and Sam lived
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together. They were the
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serial shooter together. One drove,
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one shot. The police tailed
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them, tailed them even as they drove
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the streets of Phoenix or looking for victims.
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They would slow down when people passed
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as if as of sizing them up,
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wondering if they should wind down the
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window or not before suddenly pulling
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off. After being granted wiretaps
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and bugging their apartment, they heard
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them talking and laughing that
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the killings. It
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was on August third they were both
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arrested. Dale Housner
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never admitted anything, even
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though it seemed he was the brains or
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Hold on. Wouter lack of them behind
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the operation. Sam Dieteman, he
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told the police about the whole shebang.
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They shut. They rubbed. They set buildings
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on fire. Slashed tires all
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the while smoking meth. And
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it was all a game, a real life video
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game. To them, they just wanted
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to wreck shit and smoke shit. They were
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they were out of their minds the entire time.
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Sound people just wanna watch the road,
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boom, some shit like that. Dale worked
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as a janitor at the airport. And
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in his free time, he was a freelance photographer
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and also worked in the boxing scene
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in Phoenix. He even managed to get
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a picture what Mike Tyson wants. He was
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a bit of a ladies man, though, he
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wouldn't really think it to look at him. I mean, he looks
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like someone on meth And he even
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tried to use the ladies, as alloys
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for him when the shootings occurred, couldn't
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have been me. was off riding near one.
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That would fall apart. He
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had suffered tragedy though. In
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nineteen ninety four, he was married with two
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kids in Texas. And one day
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while driving his wife fell asleep at
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the wheel, and the car went into a river.
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Both Dale's kids drowned. That
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is what turned into drugs
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and well, hating everything.
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Sam was nothing really
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fuck all to his name. He'd been an
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electrician, but due to drugs he really
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couldn't holden much, and he
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had a lengthy history. After
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the arrests on August third, the police
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banned scrapbooks in their apartment filled
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with news articles about the serial
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shooter making their making a little scrapbook
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about their adventures. Also
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inside were articles about the baseline
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killer, and the police realized
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they were having a friendly little
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competition, you know, between serial killers
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keeping keeping track of each other. And
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speaking of the baseline killer, When the
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serial shooters were arrested, he hadn't
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struck in close to two
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months. But he did have gaps
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like that before and it seemed It
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seemed only a matter of time before another
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victim turned
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up. They got
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in a forensic psychiatrist, a Steven
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Pitt, to diagnose the sky, and
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help create a profile. His
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modus operandi was well he started
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in August with the assaults before graduating
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to full on murder. He would
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kill if they didn't comply. But
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if they did, he never if
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they did comply with him, that way
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he would. He never finished.
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So DNA was actually kind of
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hard to find, but they did have it,
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though no profile to match at that
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point. Also,
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none of the women he killed were assaulted,
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but they were usually posed
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with their pants down anyway. They
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had a few suspects, and in fact, one
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false confession which wasted police
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time. And one of these suspects
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they had was a fellow named Marc Gudo,
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a handsome moustacheoed African American
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fella. He lived with his wife
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near where some attacks had occurred, and
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he had a history. As a teenager,
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he'd been accused of sexual assault
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but no charges were filed. And
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in nineteen eighty nine, he went to prison
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for sexually assaulting a woman and
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then chasing witnesses With
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a shotgun, he later robbed a store at Gunpoint,
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and for all this, he got twenty one
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years. In prison, he married
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Wendy Kerr. And he got out after
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thirteen years in two thousand and
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four. The next year,
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the baseline killer emerged. Mark,
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he lived a quiet life. He worked in construction.
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He would buy lunch for the guys. And he was
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he was a well liked charming
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guy. Which the police discovered
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when they put him under surveillance. They
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finally had a break when DNA came back from
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two teens that were assaulted
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back in September two thousand and five
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near baseline road. And
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at Match, Mark Trudeau. He
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was arrested on the sixth of September
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two thousand and six. That was his
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forty second birthday. Happy
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birthday. At that point, he
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was only charged with the attack on the
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two teens as they didn't have more. But
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That was enough to keep him inside till
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they got it. They would,
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but it would surprise everyone who knew much.
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But maybe not everyone who
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knew his record. Neighbors would say he
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was a sweet guy. His wife,
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you know, she would say he was innocent. She
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even created a website for him, which
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hasn't been updated in six years,
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so maybe she got the picture. The
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baseline killer. He's a convicted
18:27
felon. He's a serial killer.
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Who's the marketer? You know? He's
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the
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baseline killer scapegoat. He
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is the person that was just black enough
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to be
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arrested. He's too old. He's
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too big. The
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police searched his home and found jewelry
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from his victims along with traces
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of wood. This wasn't enough
18:48
to outright call him the baseline killer,
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but that would come in time. That
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would be right about when they were able to attribute
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the murder of Sofia Nunez to
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Mark. Sophia Nunez was
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the only victim of his killed in
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her own home. Her son
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walking in after school and finding his
19:06
mother in the bathtub. With
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a bullet to the head. She
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wasn't initially thought of as a baseline
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a victim, but Mark was linked
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to it by witnesses at the scene after
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his initial arrest. Markudo
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was then charged with seventy four
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crimes. He would plead
19:25
not guilty. Mark
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would have two trials. The first was for
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the attack on the two teams. In
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September two thousand and seven, he was found
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guilty and he got Sorry.
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Let me see here. Four
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hundred and thirty eight years in prison.
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And he still had another trial ahead
19:46
of him for the other seventy
19:48
four charges played against him.
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That would go ahead four years later.
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But in the meantime, the serial
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shooter trials began. Sam
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Edelman, he plead guilty to everything, and
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he got life without parole. Dayboy
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he was convicted of eighty of
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the eighty seven charges that were laid against
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him. He must have, oh my god, I didn't
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get those final seven. He tried
20:15
to kill himself before
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the state could. It's weird he
20:19
was so good at killing other people.
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Jeff Hoesner Dale's brother was also
20:24
charged with participating in some of the
20:26
serial shooters shooting. He
20:29
got a few decades for that. Dale
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Hauser was sentenced to death.
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Six times, he was sentenced to death actually.
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Just, you know, in case he survives the first
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five, you know, six
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times a term. Marco's
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trial for again,
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let me just check his notes Seventy
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four crimes went ahead in twenty eleven.
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They had his DNA. They had trophies from
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his victims. They had Tina Washington's
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ring found in his home and a bullet from
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her scene was the same as bullets found
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at all the others. He was
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found guilty of sixty seven of
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those seventy four crimes, including
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nine murders. He asked
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the jury not to kill him. They just weren't
21:11
having it, and they killed him nine
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times. In
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twenty thirteen, Dale Housner was
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found dead in his cell. He'd
21:23
overdosed on antidepressants So
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I guess, I mean, he he got there
21:27
in the end. His final victim was
21:30
himself. Sam
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and Jeff are still in prison serving their
21:35
sentences as is Merck, who's
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still to this day denies being the baseline
21:40
killer. His sentences
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were reaffirmed in twenty sixteen.
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And that, my friends, my dear
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beloved friends, is the story of
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the baseline killer and the
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serial shooter. And how for for
21:55
one year, Phoenix, Arizona
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was on edge with not one, but
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two serial killers prowling
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the streets that jeez, Janie
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Mackie, that is a stuff. Nightmares
22:07
are are truly made of But
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in the end, you know, hey. Whoa.
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Thankfully, they were caught. And Phoenix
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and the surrounding areas have been safe.
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Ever since. Oh,
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wait, shit. I have another story to tell The
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year, it is twenty eighteen, almost
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twelve years after the
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rampages of the baseline killer
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and the serial shooter, those tickets.
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In a small hotel room at the
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Scottsdale Extended Stay on
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ten six sixty North sixty
22:50
ninth Street, A man was in a
22:52
quiet, dusty, motel
22:54
room. The curtains shut against
22:56
the soft, evening light.
22:59
Inside, a man wrote down
23:02
four names on a small
23:04
scrap of paper. In that
23:06
darkened dusty, musty
23:08
room, the name's Pitt, Feldman,
23:12
Colby, and Selmy were scrawled
23:15
onto the front of an attorney's envelope.
23:19
Those four people, they were linked together
23:21
even if they didn't know it themselves. And
23:24
the person who angryly scrawled
23:27
their names had decided that
23:30
they were the kind worth
23:33
killing. On
23:38
Thursday, May thirty one, twenty eighteen,
23:40
A hot day, as Stephen Pitt left his office
23:42
at would have been, you know, around thirty five degrees Celsius,
23:45
ninety five degrees Fahrenheit, he stepped
23:47
out of his building onto the curb. Steven
23:50
Pitt was a forensic psychologist that
23:52
had had made headlines. He'd worked
23:54
on cases like Joan Bonnet Ramsay, Columbine
23:57
and he had helped identify Markudo as
23:59
the baseline killer. Eleven years
24:01
previous, as he struck just just
24:04
thirty minutes away and sometimes much
24:06
closer. Even though he worked
24:08
on these high profile cases, the
24:11
majority of his day to day was focused on
24:13
less sensational cases, you know.
24:15
Custody, divorce cases, and other
24:17
criminal cases. And
24:19
it was as he walked out of his building onto
24:21
a busy street at five thirty PM
24:23
on that thirty first of May, he
24:26
was gunned down, shots
24:28
rang out without warning. Witnesses
24:32
who happened to be in the area at the time
24:34
said the attacker, the shooter, was
24:36
a, quote, round man
24:38
with bags under his eyes, and wearing a
24:40
black cap. They said they overheard
24:43
Steven and this guy arguing before
24:45
gunshots rang out and
24:47
Steven Pitt was shot to death,
24:49
and the attacker fled the scene.
24:52
One witness who saw the shooter doing
24:54
a lager said he was a white
24:56
man His description was sketched
24:59
and it was circulated. It
25:03
would be less than twenty four hours
25:06
before this mysterious person
25:08
would strike again. On
25:10
Friday, the first of June, forty
25:12
eight year old Valeria Sharpe, stepped out
25:14
of the small law office she worked at.
25:17
Birtz, Feldman and Granier around
25:19
two fifteen PM, lunchtime. So
25:21
maybe she was
25:22
Yeah. What went to head out for a bit of rub
25:24
if it was any other
25:26
day? What's going on? The
25:29
lady's down on the ground. She's she's she's
25:31
fast out on the ground. Stay
25:32
on the phone. I'm gonna transfer us over to paramedics.
25:35
Okay. Just a moment. It
25:37
wasn't, and she was shot. She
25:39
was shot in the face and she managed to
25:41
stumble towards a bus nearby calling
25:44
for help, before collapsing
25:46
on the ground right beside her office.
25:49
When the emergency services arrived,
25:51
Valeria was already gone. But
25:55
there was a trail of blood leading back
25:57
to her
25:57
office. And following it inside,
26:00
there
26:01
was another woman just crumpled inside
26:03
the door. That
26:06
was another paralegal named
26:08
Laura Anderson. She had been shot
26:10
twice. It seemed like she had tried
26:12
to flee from the attacker.
26:16
And I see the lady on the ground
26:18
to let them on ground face down
26:21
right all over, and I thought the landed on her nose
26:23
and busted her nose kind of
26:24
thing. Yep. That's all I saw. But as I
26:27
as I was witnessing it, she was trembling
26:29
like So a shooting at
26:31
a law firm. Well, there's there's no
26:33
reason there's no shortage of reasons for that,
26:35
I'll say. It's kinda I guess it's kinda harder
26:37
to job to piss people off and screw
26:40
them over. So at the start, the
26:42
police had no indication of where to begin
26:44
and why this had happened. It may not have even
26:47
been linked to the profession of law,
26:49
loitering, etcetera, etcetera. It could
26:51
have been related to the private lives of either
26:53
Valeria Sharp or Laura Anderson. And
26:57
this time, no one got a go at the
26:59
shooter, who had marched into an office
27:01
and opened fire. Kind
27:04
of just shooting the shits
27:06
with no pun intended, One of
27:08
the investigators asked the attorneys and
27:10
partners of the firm, Bert, Feldman,
27:12
and Grooneer. You know, we
27:14
have we're just investigating a similar shooting just
27:17
a day before. You guys ever used Steven Pitt,
27:19
psychiatrist on any case by any chance?
27:21
Any links to you between what happened yesterday
27:23
and this? The answer
27:25
to that was, yes,
27:28
yes, they had. But they had used
27:30
him a few times on various cases.
27:33
So although that's a lead, It would take
27:35
while before that lead became solid, solid.
27:39
About seven hours after the shooting at
27:41
the offices of Bert, Feldman, and Groeneer,
27:44
A real connection was made when the shell
27:46
cases confirmed that the same person
27:48
had shot Steven Pitts, Valeria Sharp,
27:51
and Laura Anderson. Well, the
27:53
same gun shot them. Then
28:00
that very same day, Friday,
28:02
the first of June, maybe only a few
28:05
hours after Valeria Anoro shot
28:07
a man walked into an office building
28:09
less than seven miles away.
28:12
He was looking for a woman who had a private
28:14
office there. She wasn't
28:16
in at the
28:17
time. So what did this
28:19
guy do instead?
28:21
What he did was shoot a man who
28:23
was there. He
28:26
shot seventy two year old psychologist, Marshall
28:29
Levine twice in the face.
28:32
Marshall's body wouldn't be discovered until
28:34
close to midnight that night. When
28:36
his fiancee worried he hadn't come
28:38
home from work, Benham dead
28:41
in his office.
28:48
Medical. Medical. That's his help on the way can you see
28:50
him?
28:51
Yes. He's in his office. He's has
28:54
sober on the on the sofa. And
28:56
there's a bullet casing on the on the
28:59
Okay.
29:00
Do you find that? Yeah.
29:02
And shades of what had happened twelve
29:05
years earlier were beginning to emerge.
29:07
Watch, you know, at the time appear to
29:09
be random attacks occurring without warning,
29:11
with frightening suddenness, before
29:13
the mysterious shooter disappeared once
29:15
again into the city.
29:18
You get the guy who shot there's
29:20
two shootings and they get the person who did it. We
29:22
are still working on everything right
29:24
now. The claim was still kinda hectic scene.
29:26
Marsha's murder was quickly tied to
29:28
the and word began to spread that they
29:31
must be linked somehow.
29:33
Related to the other. I am.
29:36
I'm gonna say
29:36
Or it's relating to the other.
29:39
You said he was in the couch. Yeah.
29:41
Yeah. So
29:43
either he got nervous and missed or
29:45
he was killed. Yeah.
29:47
Look for bullet holes in the walls as well. Yes.
29:50
See if you can check behind that couch without moving
29:52
the couch. A well known forensic psychiatrist,
29:55
two paralegals on a psychologist. So
29:58
who could be next? Well, judges
30:00
were given extra security by law enforcement
30:03
as it appeared. Well, someone
30:05
wasn't happy with how things went in
30:07
a courtroom. It was certainly a
30:09
series of targeted attacks. Hundreds
30:12
of tips began pouring in. And
30:14
it was on Saturday night, the second
30:16
of June. That well,
30:18
there would be a breakthrough. See,
30:25
the police were correct in thinking the murders
30:28
were linked to a court case. And
30:30
maybe someone knew exactly which
30:32
case it was. Connie
30:35
Jones shorted. Connie
30:37
Jones was married to a retired Phoenix
30:39
police detective and she had one
30:41
son from a previous marriage who
30:43
was in college. She knew
30:45
who the killer was from that previous
30:48
marriage. She called the detectives
30:50
telling them that the three places that were
30:52
targeted, but only one of the persons
30:54
were all involved in her divorce
30:56
case from her first husband.
30:59
Her first husband was a guy named
31:01
Dwight Jones. Dwight
31:04
Jones, by the way, he was not white. So
31:06
the first witness got it way wrong.
31:09
Connie And Dwight started a relationship when
31:11
she was just eighteen years old.
31:14
Penny would go to medical school and become
31:16
a radiologist, Dwight, he would join the
31:18
army and they would marry in nineteen eighty
31:20
eight. Shortly
31:22
after Dwight dropped out of the army,
31:25
and it wasn't long before Dwight began
31:27
showing signs of depression and signs
31:29
of violence towards her. He
31:31
wouldn't be able to hold a job for a long
31:33
and over the years there were incidents of domestic
31:36
assault. They kept at it for
31:38
few years they'd have a son together and
31:40
stuck through it, you know, for him. But
31:42
the stake through the heart of their relationship
31:44
came in two thousand and nine.
31:46
Their young son was playing in a basque ball
31:49
game. And after back at home, he
31:51
obviously hadn't played well enough for his old
31:53
man as the white began to share with him.
31:55
Connie, she basically told him to stop
31:57
it, When Dwight pinned her up
31:59
against the wall, gave her a wall
32:01
up and said he would drown her in the
32:03
pool. Honey was able to document
32:06
this, She
32:22
did not think he was joking about
32:24
drowning her. She ran out of the
32:26
house and called the police, which
32:29
resulted in a standoff with
32:31
SWAT. Dwight finally coming
32:33
out with his young son in front of him
32:35
holding him like a human shield.
32:38
Great stuff. What an awesome dash. What
32:41
a fucking asshole? Less
32:43
than a week later, Connie filed for divorce.
32:46
Dwight was involuntary committed to a
32:48
mental health institute, but he was
32:50
let go after it was found he was, quote,
32:53
not mentally abnormal. Stephen
32:56
Pitt, the psychiatrist, then entered
32:58
the picture to assess Dwight. He
33:00
determined that he had anxiety and mood
33:02
disorders, was narcissistic, antisocial,
33:05
and paranoid. And
33:08
Stephen Pitt himself told the court
33:10
that without proper treatment, Dwight
33:13
would he would continue. He would continue
33:15
to unravel And
33:17
he was dead right. Way
33:19
too right. Thus, you know, him coming
33:21
forward and saying that would later
33:24
make him a target of the white.
33:27
Connie would get soul custody of their son
33:30
with the white getting supervised time with
33:32
him. Something he was not happy
33:34
about. Honey would also have to pay
33:36
Dwight six thousand dollars a
33:38
month in spousal maintenance. She
33:40
was a doctor, Dwight was jack shit.
33:47
The two paralegals killed.
33:49
Well, they worked at the law office, Connie's
33:51
divorce attorney worked at. Valeria
33:54
sharp and Laura Anderson weren't on
33:56
his shit list. They were just
33:58
there. Same for Marsha Levin,
34:00
actually, he simply worked in the same building,
34:03
Connie and Dwight's son, saw another
34:05
psychologist that She wasn't there
34:07
that day. While she had been, actually,
34:09
she had just left early, but
34:11
Marshall was still there, and
34:13
he ended up being killed. Cuddy,
34:16
her husband and son, had just returned
34:18
from a vacation when they saw the
34:20
news, and she saw the signs as
34:22
to who the killer was. And they
34:25
quickly left hand. It
34:27
was likely he may turn up at her door.
34:30
Honey knew who would likely be next. Paulette,
34:33
Selmy, the person who made the call
34:35
that Dwight gets supervised visits.
34:37
But in the meantime, why he would do this
34:39
was a mystery, especially so long
34:41
after the divorce, and she was paying
34:44
him a lot of money every month. What
34:47
what caused him to snap Well,
34:49
one indication could be from his
34:51
YouTube channel called exposing
34:54
low lives. It's
34:56
been removed from the Internet, but some clips
34:59
still remain. He never mentions his
35:01
name or shows his face. Instead, he
35:03
shows this trigon creepy
35:05
white mask. He somehow
35:08
came to the conclusion that there was some
35:10
kind of conspiracy against him at
35:12
Steven Pitt Coney Jones and all
35:14
the others had abused his son
35:16
and were trying to gaslight him and make him
35:18
look insane, though I think
35:21
Neil, after watching some of these clips, he was doing
35:23
a good enough job of that on his own.
35:26
Hello, YouTube, and welcome to my channel.
35:28
You will have a psychiatric problem based
35:30
on some piece of that she hired.
35:33
People who enable sexual
35:35
assault should be held accountable. They
35:38
should go to jail. Just
35:40
like the pedophile. Just like
35:42
the rapist. That's how Larry Nash
35:45
master doctor. Larry
35:47
Nash. Got
35:49
away with it for so long. And this new
35:51
guy, UNC, can't
35:53
think of that doctor's name. That's
35:55
how he got away with it so long. That's
35:58
how Bill Cosby got away with it.
36:01
All of these people had money and titles,
36:04
and they had people covering up their
36:08
crimes just
36:10
like Connie, how many people
36:12
does she have to grow? How
36:14
many children does she have to molest?
36:17
Before she's brought
36:19
to justice.
36:21
His
36:22
main thesis though was that he'd been robbed
36:24
at one son. And he'd kill those
36:26
responsible. All the videos were
36:28
posted within three weeks of the beginning
36:31
of his rampage. So
36:33
they knew who was responsible for the attacks,
36:35
and they even flew a helicopter in the
36:37
middle of the night to Connie and her son
36:39
to do a DNA test and confirm with
36:42
Tracy n a, they had found on a bullet, Nino,
36:44
to confirm as Dwight from his son's DNA,
36:46
where they didn't have Dwight himself. And
36:49
he wasn't done just yet.
36:53
Cell phone data would later show that
36:55
on Sunday morning, Shortly before
36:58
the police began to attract white, he had
37:00
driven to an upscale neighborhood in
37:02
Scottsdale, Fountain Hills, Inside
37:05
a house there, police found the bodies of
37:07
Mary Simons and Brian Thomas.
37:09
Both were in their seventies. Both
37:12
had been shot to death. Why
37:14
he killed them is unknown? He
37:16
knew them, but they weren't involved in the
37:18
divorce case, and it's never
37:20
really been explained. They wouldn't be
37:22
discovered for another day and he had
37:25
no reason to kill them. The
37:27
only real link was that Dwight and Brian
37:30
occasionally played tennis together.
37:32
A few hours later, the police began tailing
37:34
him, and they saw him dump the hand gun in a
37:36
dumpster. Along with a black hat.
37:40
The police would eventually tail him to Scottsdale
37:42
Extended Stay on ten six sixty
37:44
North sixty ninth Street. Early
37:47
on Monday, the fourth of June, police
37:49
surrendered the hotel and began to get guests
37:52
out of there. They
37:54
tried to do, you know, this quietly without
37:56
alerting Dwight, but not unfortunately
37:59
quietly enough. As to
38:01
why he must have heard something. He got
38:03
out of bed. He poked his little head out the window
38:05
and saw his hotel absolutely
38:08
surrounded by Boys.
38:13
At this point, Dwight shatters
38:15
his own hands. And then he
38:18
was, oh, like light bulb. Light
38:20
bulb moments, you know, in his head, he realized,
38:22
oh, shit. I actually wrote them five names
38:25
on that envelope, not four. He
38:27
had another look at it. Uh-huh.
38:30
The last name was his
38:32
own. And you know so, hey, four
38:34
to five, you gotta finish what you started.
38:36
After popping off a few shots at the
38:38
police, he popped one off
38:40
at himself. He
38:43
didn't leave a note or anything. All
38:45
he left behind was a hotel room
38:48
filled with crazy person,
38:50
pure shite. The
38:53
police found his body inside, along with
38:55
disguises, the white mask from
38:57
his videos, guns, knives,
38:59
and ammo. They
39:01
also found his laptop and the laptop
39:04
had two bullets in it like he
39:06
had shot it. Now I'm not
39:08
sure exactly this is a bit of
39:10
an unsolved mystery if you ask me because
39:12
I'm not sure how he thought the Internet
39:15
works, but shooting
39:17
your computer does not amazingly
39:20
enough eraser search history.
39:24
Just finished watching support. Where
39:26
is the shotgun? In his
39:28
search history, they found the names and addresses
39:30
of everyone he had been looking for.
39:33
When he died, he was wearing a t shirt with the
39:35
punisher logo on a along with the
39:37
hat and he had comic books and DVDs of
39:39
the punisher two. He was a big fan. I
39:42
guess he saw himself much like Frank
39:44
castle, avenging those that took
39:46
away his son. He saw himself as a
39:48
hero, vigilante. They
39:50
also found the envelope with the names of his
39:52
intended victims. He only
39:54
actually got one of them, Stephen Pitt
39:56
along with five others who
39:58
had nothing to do
40:00
with anything. Why
40:03
Dwight did what he did is still a mystery?
40:05
He had been living in that hotel for years.
40:07
If you can believe that, since he moved out of his
40:09
house he had shared with Connie, so
40:11
he was likely just just doing,
40:14
going more and more batch it with each
40:16
passing day until he just had
40:18
enough killing himself was probably
40:20
always the likely plan. The
40:23
fact that he killed the two older victims,
40:25
it's still strange. It's understood
40:28
White asked one of them either Mary or
40:30
Brian for money shortly before he began his
40:32
rampage. Even though he was getting six
40:34
grand a month, from Connie. They
40:36
likely refused and maybe he killed
40:38
them out of revenge, though he
40:40
didn't steal anything from their fancy
40:42
house in Fenton Hills. It
40:46
is very likely though if he hadn't seen Oben
40:48
tracked down after his big weekend
40:50
notes, he would have crossed off
40:53
all the names on his list. So he would
40:55
have gone back for those he missed and eventually
40:58
probably his wife's. Thankfully
41:00
though, cheers to white he
41:02
crossed off his own name before he could.
41:06
Thank you. So much for listening. My
41:09
friends, folks out there. I I really appreciate
41:11
you taking the time. Being here with me
41:13
listening to this old story, it's
41:15
a really really wacky one. But, you know,
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41:37
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