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Hey

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you and welcome. My name is

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Mike and folks I got some stories

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for you. Some good ones. First

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of all, I hope you're all doing super good.

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Um, how you doing with me? Nah,

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not really, to be honest. A little bit as

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the old fellow would say. Working hard on the pods,

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working hard on the vids and planning for

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the summer. Hoping to do, actually

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hoping to do more outdoor filming and travelling and that kind of stuff.

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But

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who knows how these things will work out. That's

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the plan. Anyway, so here I've

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got some stories for you that worked out

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real weird. I Don't

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know if I what I just said if it

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made sense, but who cares today It's

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time for a twofer and here we are talking about

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some femme fatales indeed

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hot chicks coming to kill you What

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a way to go, you know, you know these women

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the women I'm gonna talk about in this podcast They

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have a certain a certain Genesecois,

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which is French for I don't know what because

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I don't think their husbands saw beyond

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those tatas You know, they were cereal.

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Yeah, well not killers, but

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almost Michelle Williams

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and Tracy Richter two ladies who

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would use their Sexuality to charm

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steal and kill because why

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not? I mean I would too but hey,

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come on. Nobody wants to see my

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Goblin buddy. Well, you

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guys don't need to know that but what you do need

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to know are these mad yolks and the

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shenanigans they got up to. So

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let's give it a go.

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North Texas first of all home

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of the North Texans.

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There

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you'll find Keller. Fitting name because

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Keller rhymes with

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Yep, you guessed it,

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dwellers, yep, and dwellers

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in kellers were, well, about 50,000, if

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you can believe that.

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sits just to the n- Northwest

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of the Dallas-Fort Worth metro

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area. It's close to the airport, the

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business center and both downtowns,

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Dallas and Fort Worth.

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It is good schools, plenty of shit to do, malls,

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it's very clean, it's very safe, and

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it's just really delicious guys. It's

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it's desirable. Don't know what else to tell

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you. I'm mad. I should get back to the way

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I used to be which was making fun of places

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my stories are set. Yeah, no

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joke I used to actually get emails saying, stop making

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fun of my hometown!

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That's

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a good idea. No. I

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enjoy making fun of the places I've never

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been to and are probably lovely because

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it's funny. So for those reasons

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I gave you that Keller is just the

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goody gumdrops' best place, that

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is why the Williams family lived

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there. Them being Greg with

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two G's, that's 50% G,

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and Michelle with one L. Duh-huh.

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Though she'll have taken a few L's by the

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time I'm done. And they lived there

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with some kids. Now they lived in what

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may be referred to as a McMansion

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in the Twin Lakes Drive area. And

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the couple had been married for three years

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by the time our story takes place.

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Michelle, she had three kids from

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previous marriages, and together Greg and

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Michelle would welcome a fourth, a daughter.

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Greg, he was a wealthy man, an entrepreneur!

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And Michelle, she enjoyed that. She enjoyed

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that he treated her like his queen,

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but

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she did not enjoy calling 911

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at around 4.40am on the 13th of October, 2011.

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That night, Michelle had been sleeping

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when a booming sound effect cut

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off

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those Z's

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in the darkness of that early autumn

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morning in a house that was dead quiet

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after whatever jolted her awake she

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got out of bed and walked slowly toward

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where the sound came from

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it sounded to her like it was still a noise

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was somebody breaking in

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well Greg he lay asleep in the bed

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or so she thought then

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as she inched closer out of

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the dark came a whack a crack

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and she was hit hard, right in

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the kisser.

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She managed to stumble back into the bedroom

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and saw Greg with a man in black beside

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him. Groggy. She heard a loud bang

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and through blurry eyes she saw Greg

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had been shot dead.

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He was still lying in the bed and on the floor

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right beside play

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handgun. Michelle, she didn't

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have the easiest life but

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trying to convince police and prosecutors

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that she was not involved in this would

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be the most difficult thing yet.

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Michelle Zahn from Hearst, Texas

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was 17 years old when she

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had her first baby and two more

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would follow over the next seven years.

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So two boys and a girl from two husbands,

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both marriages ending on... Not

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the best of terms.

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She would claim that both those husbands

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were cheaters, you know, men or pigs,

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but they They would later give her the old reverse

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uno card.

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And her kids

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would actually say the same. They would say that

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the marriages ended because she cheated.

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She left one man for another man

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and then rinse and repeat.

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In one instance after her second

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husband caught her sleeping with not

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one but two men. Whoa, whoa,

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dude. They were London merging her.

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He demanded a divorce. And in

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retaliation for her husband

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demanding a divorce, she tried to kill his fish and

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his dog. What did

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they do?

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to support herself and her children

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at After

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this, she would work as a dental

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assistant. Then after being fired

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for stealing… stealing

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what? Teeth?

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She would then get into telemarketing and eventually

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turn to strip work. Sex-ul

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work. And was scraping by paycheck

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to paycheck, living on couches and

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in motels. Until

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in 2007 she met future husband Greg

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Williams.

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They met on one of those websites, you know,

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with the whips and the letter and the

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daddy.

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And from there, the gravy train said,

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shoot you motherfucker.

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They had the $800,000 house,

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the cars, the pool, Greg himself,

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two marriages behind him also and

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two daughters. He had been successful

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in the IT industry. He created

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the company, DFW IT

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Pro, and he was earning the big bucks.

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Small businesses are the foundation of a healthy

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economy, and so on and so

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forth. was something which Michelle

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she took her liking to. Don't

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mind if I do. And Greg, well,

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Michelle! Michelle was a very sexual

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woman, and so he kind

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of had the same idea she did. But that's just,

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you know, the way she was.

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And once again, not just with her new husband

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Greg.

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Because one sausage could never

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satisfy a woman like Michelle. Like,

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you know, give Michelle a call, lads. You

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won't go home empty-handed.

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brother-in-law and his best friend,

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a guy named Bryn, well one time

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he was in the house with just

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Michelle and she called him up

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to the attic.

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When Bryn got up there he saw she

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was completely billy-balloc-snaked.

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He did kind of a double take, said, well

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that's fucked up you're my brother-in-law and best

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friend's wife and he left but

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he saw everything.

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Now this Bryn, he later committed suicide

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in a case where Michelle's

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name came up more than once. I'll

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say that for, uh...

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dessert. So the Williams

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they lived and they worked and they loved

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but maybe just not always each other. Greg

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even bought a frozen yogurt shop

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for her to run. They just said give her something

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to do. I'll keep you busy for a while. Maybe

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this will stop you from having sex with the neighbors.

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Michelle's two grown sons they helped out

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in Greg's business and they'd work

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for him for a time and they

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would say you know he treated their mother

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right. He spoils her rotten.

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Though they themselves, they were not too keen

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on him. They didn't really like him. Though

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as I said, you know, they treated their

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mother well,

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they thought he kind of sucked.

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See, Greg Williams, he acted like a 21 year

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old frat boy at a college party scene.

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Not like a 45 year old grown-ass man. He

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was like the big dog type, you know.

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He thought he was anyway, you know. He was a bodybuilder.

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He did caraté. He had the big parties.

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And sometimes there were bad people at these parties,

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there were hardcore drugs, and he got fucking

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hammered. Yeah, he was a type who'd get fucking hammered

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and then try and fight you. Honestly, he

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sounds pretty fucking cool. But it

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didn't last long. Three years

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after they tied the knot and became one

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big family,

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Greg was shot dead in his own

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bed.

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But by who? Police arrived

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quickly at the scene. A wrench was

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found on the ground, exactly the type of that

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would give you a good crack

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and Greg had been shot once, once in

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the head. When the police investigation

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sprang up, like I said, you know, going through

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the background of the folk, there wasn't any shortage

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of who could have done this.

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One of the first people Michelle mentioned was

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Kathy, Kathy Williams, one

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of Greg's previous wives and

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they did not enjoy each other's company.

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She said they had been fighting Greg and Kathy

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a lot and And Michelle also neglected

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to mention who she knew who actually

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hated Greg,

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her sons, and both her sons were

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army veterans.

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So, you know, Michelle, she was full

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of ideas.

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suspects that didn't go far. Let

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me tell you why.

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The police were not sure anyone without

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the surname Williams was even

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in the house at all that night.

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There were no signs of a disturbance, nothing

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was stolen and Cash was lying around.

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Greg hadn't fought, hadn't moved,

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he'd been shot while laying in bed, yet

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Michelle said the crash was loud enough to

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wake her up.

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The scene, from what what Michelle said did not

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match at all

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and the neighborhood CCTV did not show

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anyone coming or anyone going.

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No forced entry.

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Why leave the weapons if there

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even was? Man, the murder weapon

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was Greg's own.

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It all looked staged. Michelle,

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when confronted, she denied everything,

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said, no, no, there was someone there. I

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swear, I swear to you. Hey, I

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lie to you?

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Until she finally said,

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actually okay guys, you got me, he

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killed himself.

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She said she was on the couch, she heard a bang,

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and walked in. I was lying

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before, you know, I was lying when I said, you

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know, there was an intruder before. That wasn't the truth.

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No, no, no, I'm telling you the truth, not

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a lie.

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Why won't anyone believe me? So, why the

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story if it was a suicide. If Greg

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really did do this to himself,

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why did she invent the story

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of some home intruder?

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Well, she said she cleaned

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it up, she hid herself, made

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it look like not what it was, but

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kinda what it was, because she wanted

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to protect their daughter and his

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reputation. You know,

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didn't want one of those old, we can't

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have a suicide in a family kind of deal.

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She couldn't explain though why he would

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kill himself. The police,

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they let her go. They thought her story. It

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was stinky.

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But there was no evidence to tire to it. Nothing

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of hers was found on the weapon,

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and they simply charged her with filing a

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false police reports, and she was

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at the door.

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After that, well, she's a

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strong independent woman who don't need no man, and

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after Greg's untimely death, she liquidated

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all his assets, sold the frozen

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yogurt shop on Craig's list of all

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things, and also sold all his clients,

12:14

and was generally a

12:15

living la vida loca. As

12:18

all this was going on though, the autopsies

12:20

and the medical examiner's reports, well,

12:22

the ink had well and truly dried,

12:25

and Greg's injuries were not, not

12:27

consistent with a self-inflicted gunshot

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wound. In fact, it showed Greg

12:32

in addition to being shot from about a foot

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away which would be very awkward

12:38

to do with your hand.

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He also had a large dose

12:42

of sleeping pills in his system.

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Their young daughter, the only other

12:47

person in the house who slept through everything

12:50

so she could say what happened, now she was

12:52

never tested for any sleeping agents,

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though it was suspected the daughter had

12:57

been drugged also to sleep through

12:59

the entire event.

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Also at the time of Greg's death they were about to

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purchase a four million

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dollar home. The problem was

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the loan they acquired, well it

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had been done through bogus means, someone

13:14

had been altering the account numbers.

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Now Greg he earned good money,

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but

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she was spending it quicker than he was

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making it.

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He also had an $850,000 life insurance

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policy so...

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Woo! On the 9th

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of January, Michelle was arrested for

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murder, tampering with evidence and making

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a false police report.

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Her bond? Half a million. Somehow

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though, after a week in jail, her

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bond was reduced to $85,000. And

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she was out. Okay, all the workouts have

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been around since 1704. The Russian

13:48

military actually started with the strength

13:50

of their thighs. It's used for

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lots of sport specific workouts.

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I'm a personal trainer and I've been teaching

13:58

kettlebell within a routine. and

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I decided to pull it completely

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out of the gym and put together a 30-minute

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workout. It's very intense.

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Now, meet Shelly Williams,

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Kal-bell guide person.

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Re-invention is the name of the game, especially

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when you've got an $850,000 life insurance policy to claim, my

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friends,

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which she didn't get. Obviously, the

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insurance company aren't going to pay it out to

14:25

an alleged murderer or suspected murderer.

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Now Michelle is what some may

14:30

call a manipulative, attention-seeking,

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real piece of shit. Not

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me though, not your boy Mike over here. No,

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no, no. I think she's one

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swell gal.

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And that's exactly what her next boyfriend

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thought. Or what he was thinking.

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And well actually what her next boyfriend was thinking, it

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rhymes with MILF. Actually,

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no it doesn't.

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That's just straight up the word he was thinking.

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Her next act was to announce

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her next relationship, and with

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whom she was setting up Kettlebell

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Fitness Business with. Yep,

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she was setting up her own personal training

15:06

Kettlebell thing. She was setting

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up this business with one Jean Wallace,

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a friend of her son's, 15 years

15:15

her junior.

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So, she had her new young boyfriend,

15:18

a fitness business, fun nights

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out,

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and oh yeah, court dates. She

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also began to mention to those close to her,

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you know, that what happened to Greg, it

15:29

really was murder. You know, you

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think my son, one of my sons could have

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done it?

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Or maybe Kathy? All those people, they

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were cleared, by the way, the police didn't fight.

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But yeah, Michelle did mention

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her son could have killed Greg. She

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was throwing her own sons under the bus.

15:46

What a gal.

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Now, this case wouldn't go to trial. She

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got a plea deal. The reason she

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got one, even though she was accused of murder,

15:56

was because the evidence was,

15:58

well, non-existent.

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It was difficult to prove beyond a reasonable

16:03

doubt without anything physical.

16:05

And this was after she admitted she

16:08

cleaned up the crime scene to the police to make it

16:10

look like murder, not suicide.

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When it was murder.

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She pleaded guilty to tampering with evidence

16:16

and deadly conduct. That she had in

16:18

fact killed her husband, but it's a much,

16:21

much lesser charge than murder.

16:23

And so for that, she would be sentenced to 18 years

16:25

in prison. But,

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and this is a big ol' big ol' booty cheeks,

16:31

she couldn't actually be sentenced

16:43

to

16:55

those 18 years just yet

16:58

because you want to know why

16:59

because she was pregnant and she

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was pregnant with twins so

17:04

she couldn't stay in jail either

17:06

and maybe you give her you know hey you can't

17:09

send a pregnant woman away come on now maybe

17:11

she give her um a deal that's

17:13

a little bit more favorable

17:15

and so she was let out of jail

17:18

you know she was still due to be sentenced

17:20

and she still at an ankle monitor but they

17:22

let her out on humanity

17:25

grounds, let's say.

17:27

This lasted a couple months, poor, poor

17:29

woman, you know. Until

17:31

the police reviewed the GPS

17:34

data of her ankle monitor and

17:36

it showed, hot diggity dog,

17:38

Michelle, she went

17:40

back to stripping while out on bond

17:43

and while pregnant. Apparently

17:46

pregnant

17:47

because they found that as they could trace

17:49

her movements.

17:50

She never once went to a doctor

17:53

And in fact, she also found a way to remove

17:55

her ankle monitor.

17:56

So ye, kind of

17:59

losing track of the law. over here.

18:01

So when the police learned of all this,

18:03

the fake pregnancy, the lies, the removal

18:06

of the GPS monitor, she was sent back to

18:08

jail. No bond this time.

18:12

Michelle, by the way, when she was kind of confronted with

18:14

this, she made up a miscarriage by the whole

18:16

ordeal to explain away why she was now

18:18

not pregnant.

18:20

Now, there's one more twist in the

18:22

case of Michelle Williams, you

18:25

know, that I that I want to talk to.

18:27

It was a guy I just mentioned in passing, Bryn

18:29

Fletcher.

18:30

He was married to Greg's sister and he

18:32

was also Greg's best friend. Now remember

18:35

Michelle had tried to lure him into the attic

18:38

to bone him up

18:40

there. In 2010, a

18:42

year before Greg's death, Bryn

18:45

died. Officially suicide, unofficially

18:49

something else. It was December

18:51

20th and Bryn was driving to

18:53

Waco When the police received a call of

18:56

a suspicious car parked on the side of the

18:58

road,

18:58

it had been there all day off of Highway 34.

19:02

This

19:02

was in a remote area.

19:04

Brin, he was dead. Dead

19:07

of a self-inflicted gunshot wound

19:09

to the head. Now Michelle

19:12

Williams immediately said, oh,

19:14

he killed himself. Of course he did,

19:16

you know. And she, for some reason,

19:19

Michelle Williams was always listed as

19:21

the best person to contact. regarding

19:24

this case.

19:25

Now I will say Brynn's wife, she

19:27

was also named Michelle so maybe

19:29

there was confusion, they listed Michelle Williams

19:31

instead of Michelle Fletcher,

19:33

or maybe Michelle just inserted

19:36

herself. And Michelle

19:38

said he, he you know, Michelle, Michelle

19:41

was like of course he committed suicide out there on this

19:43

lonely road, hey he had tried to

19:45

kill himself before.

19:47

Now his actual wife would

19:49

say no he had not he was not

19:51

suicidal and he also never carried a gun with

19:53

him neither

19:54

now the reports of Bren's death they're conflicted

19:57

And

19:57

conflicting, yo, some say he-

20:00

He was shot in the head once, but some say it was

20:02

the forehead, the eye, or the mouth.

20:03

It says he did it with his left hand when he was

20:06

right-handed.

20:07

When it happened, Michelle Williams ordered

20:10

him cremated as soon as it was ruled

20:12

a suicide. Bryn's

20:13

wife, at the time, as you can imagine, she was

20:15

too upset to argue with her.

20:17

And at one point, Michelle led Bryn's

20:19

family to the exact point where

20:22

Bryn died. Despite the police

20:24

releasing almost nothing about the case, Like,

20:27

you know, well, here's where he died.

20:30

How do you know that? The police only said it was on this road

20:32

and it's a long road.

20:34

Uh, I don't know that.

20:37

Brynn's wife thinks that maybe he learned

20:39

something about Michelle. Something that Greg

20:42

wouldn't want to hear. Well he definitely learned it

20:44

because

20:45

she tried to bang him.

20:47

And so Michelle not

20:49

being too keen on getting a divorce from

20:51

Greg, she got in there first.

20:54

So while awaiting sentencing, which

20:57

was due to be 18 years for deadly

20:59

conduct and other charges, Michelle

21:01

agreed to an interview with the TV

21:03

show 48 Hours.

21:06

Now this would turn out to be a huge mistake.

21:08

Greg

21:10

treated me like a queen. He

21:13

was the most amazing father

21:15

to Michaela.

21:16

Did you murder your

21:19

husband Greg? No, I

21:21

did not. So

21:24

yeah, in that interview she said

21:27

she didn't do it, but maybe she would know

21:29

who did do

21:42

it.

21:50

Now,

21:51

as part of her plea deal, she already

21:53

said she'd killed him.

21:55

Now on national TV she was saying something different.

21:57

Her plea deal was revoked.

22:00

trial was now coming at you.

22:02

You know, if she hadn't done that interview,

22:04

if she hasn't said what she said in an interview, she

22:06

might have gotten parole in as little as five

22:08

years.

22:10

Now she will have to wait a hell of a lot longer than

22:12

that.

22:13

Her defence, they went back to the suicide

22:15

motive. He had money problems. His friend

22:18

killed himself, apparently.

22:19

Greg, he was doing steroids to bulk up

22:21

and that messed with his mind, you know, roid rage.

22:24

The medical examiner already said he didn't do it

22:26

to himself. On the interview, she did didn't

22:28

help. She essentially testified against herself.

22:31

Michelle Williams was found guilty and sentenced

22:34

to 60 years

22:36

in prison. You know one thing I

22:38

learned during during my research into this

22:40

case was that Michelle's dad he

22:43

had an attraction to the to

22:45

the theatrical. Maybe he should have tried community

22:48

theater.

22:48

Instead of doing that though he would work on construction

22:51

sites and purposely get himself injured.

22:54

You know he would be the kind of jump in front of cars

22:57

That kind of shit, which in my mind deserves

22:59

to be run over. Like I love what you notice

23:01

Dash cam videos you can see on YouTube of people trying

23:03

to

23:04

jump in front of a car that's stopped. Man, they

23:06

are very funny, and when that happens you should

23:08

read a speedup. So it's not surprising Michelle

23:10

turned out the way that she did. She pulled her

23:13

own little stunts. Though just

23:15

a bit different from her owl fellow. Though

23:17

Anna, it's not surprising they eventually, as

23:20

hard as she fought against them, landed her where

23:22

she belongs.

23:24

in prison. So

23:34

now for our next old story and

23:36

to early Iowa we go. Well

23:39

okay, not early, but early.

23:41

I mean, okay, it's present

23:43

day but that's the name of the place. God damn

23:46

it, who names this shit? And what can

23:48

I say about early? Uh, not

23:50

much. It's a community of under 1000

23:52

people, mostly working in agriculture,

23:55

and they got a place where everybody knew each other's

23:57

beeswax. knit.

24:00

So, when on an evening in December 2001

24:03

shots rang out in the abode of

24:05

a family of five,

24:06

that tends to get notice, that

24:08

tends to make the news. That's when the

24:11

usually unlocked doors of the houses

24:13

of early

24:14

went clique. There

24:16

had been a break-in, shots fired, and

24:18

a body bag needed. The home was

24:21

of the Roberts family, made

24:23

up of Michael, Tracy, maiden

24:25

name Richter, Bert, Tracy's

24:28

previous marriage and then a young boy

24:30

Noah and young girl Mason.

24:33

When the police and the EMTs arrived,

24:35

they entered a scene of crying and

24:38

screaming.

24:39

Tracy and the children were safe, thankfully.

24:42

The man of the house, Michael Roberts, he

24:44

happened to be out of town at the time. But

24:47

when they were walking around the house on the floor, what the

24:49

police saw was… well,

24:51

a familiar face.

24:53

It was 20 year old Dustin

24:55

Weedy, a neighbour of the Roberts family.

24:58

He had been shot nine times

25:00

and he was beyond saving at this point.

25:03

Tracy in shock was taken

25:05

to hospital for breathing difficulties

25:08

but she was able to tell the police she'd been attacked

25:10

by intruders and that she'd been choked,

25:13

choked with a panty hose. You can see the pictures

25:15

of her in the hospital. She has marks

25:17

all around her neck. It looked, it

25:19

did look like she had been through a rough

25:21

time.

25:22

So, like, the initial

25:24

reaction, what the shit. Dustin,

25:28

neighbor, he had a great relationship with the family.

25:30

He lived close by. He cut their

25:32

grass. He mowed the lawn for

25:34

the Roberts family. They went

25:36

to church together.

25:38

Was Dustin Weedy one of the intruders or

25:41

had he heard something, rushed to protect

25:44

Tracy and the kids and had been

25:46

killed? the former according

25:48

to Tracy from her hospital

25:51

bed. There were

25:53

two men who broke in,

25:54

one Dustin and the other a stranger,

25:57

but Tracy was able to give the police a description.

26:00

And now they never asked for money during the attack

26:02

and when they were choking her even though

26:05

there was expensive jewellery all over

26:07

the house.

26:08

No, instead Tracy felt they

26:10

were there, they were there for her.

26:13

She at one point she managed to grab a gun

26:15

and shoot Dustin, popped off some shots

26:17

at him in self-defense to protect her

26:19

and her children's lives.

26:21

The other intruder, the person she didn't know, he

26:24

fled the scene.

26:25

Tracy was a hero. Mama

26:27

Lion prepared to defend her children.

26:30

Defend her cubs, you know?

26:32

Kitty got claws.

26:33

Tracy, she was discharged from hospital

26:36

after a few days, husband Michael rushing

26:38

back. You had to be at her side. And

26:40

the family, they had a pre-organized trip to

26:42

Australia, where husband Michael

26:44

was originally from,

26:46

and so off they went. You know, maybe

26:48

get away from here for a time, recover. But

26:51

while they were in the land down under, the

26:53

investigation continued.

26:55

And hmm, some things didn't

26:57

quite jive with Tracy's

26:59

story of self-defense and intruders. There

27:02

were nine wounds on Dustin's

27:04

body. Nine different bullet holes

27:06

from two different guns.

27:09

Three of those shots were to his

27:11

head. And the angle was from above

27:13

as if he was lying on the ground when

27:15

shot.

27:16

Execution style. But

27:18

Tracy, she had her story and she was sticking

27:21

to it. Her truth, if you will, this

27:24

is my truth and you better believe it,

27:25

was a lie. Son

27:28

Bert, though, he was old enough there, he backed

27:31

up everything Tracy said about what happened. Though,

27:34

as you'll learn about Bert, he

27:36

loved his mother a lot. Not long

27:38

after the murder, Tracy went to

27:40

visit the publisher of the Storm Lake

27:43

Times, a local paper, and was like,

27:46

alright, let the record

27:48

show I'm doing finger guns at the mic. She said, So

27:50

listen, I got a good one for you,

27:52

and she would tell her story to anyone, and

27:54

to everyone.

27:55

You know, is one of those stories where it's

27:57

like,

27:58

listen, you can call me.

28:00

hero if you want to, but

28:02

I am kind of a hero." She

28:05

told exactly what happened.

28:06

She said that on the 13th of December,

28:09

at 4 p.m., Dustin popped over. Now

28:11

Tracy said she never felt comfortable

28:13

with him around, but he was used as hanging out. However,

28:16

she was saved by a friend not long

28:18

after who arrived, and when the surrender arrived,

28:21

Dustin left. However, this friend

28:23

who arrived, Marie, she was supposed

28:25

to stay the night. Both their husbands were out

28:28

of town on business, But due to

28:30

some problems blah blah blah

28:32

Marie left

28:34

Then later on that same day at 6

28:36

p.m. Tracy was bathing the youngest

28:39

daughter Mason while she was you know

28:41

Bathing her she heard a noise downstairs.

28:44

She thought to herself Michael home

28:46

early Nope, it was

28:48

Dustin and another guy.

28:50

She ran with her baby She managed

28:52

to put all the kids in the same room

28:55

and lock the door before she was dragged

28:57

away Fire Ponytail.

28:59

They grabbed, she tried to run

29:02

to the gun safe but she was choked out by

29:04

pantyhose and she went unconscious.

29:06

She woke to hear her kids screaming

29:09

and the two intruders outside the door

29:11

trying to kick it open to get to the kids.

29:14

Tracy, she was fucked, she was hazy

29:17

cuz she couldn't really see, her speccy's gone, but

29:19

then her

29:20

Richter sense kicked in.

29:23

She

29:23

pulls a cucumber, she walked over she

29:26

unlocked the safe after failing multiple

29:28

times whipped out an iron two actually

29:31

and started blasting Dustin

29:33

was dead the other guy he fled

29:36

that was her story pretty

29:38

cool by her beer I mean I mean

29:41

I mean that was her story

29:43

for a bit let's learn

29:45

a little bit more about teedog a bit of backstory

29:48

about her actually well a lot

29:50

of backstory about her because the

29:52

shooting of Dustin Weedy was just

29:54

the latest in a long line of

29:56

Tracy being up to something.

30:00

Tracy was born in May 1966 in

30:03

Chicago and she grew into a pretty

30:06

smart girl.

30:07

So much so that she got a scholarship to

30:09

enroll to college as a radiography

30:11

student.

30:12

And it was while studying she met John

30:15

Pittman the turd in 1987 and John he fell head over

30:19

heels for her.

30:21

John he was studying to be a doctor and

30:23

the two of them they hit it off so well soon

30:25

they were engaged.

30:27

couple they moved to Denver where John

30:30

started his residency and his

30:32

family, the Pittman family, they lived nearby

30:34

also. Now

30:35

Tracy was everything John

30:38

was looking for in a woman, kind of weirdly

30:40

so.

30:42

She was sharing all the interests John had.

30:45

But as soon as the I-Do's

30:47

were said in 1988, Tracy changed.

30:52

And she changed John to an extent

30:54

also. John's parents lived

30:56

nearby, but

30:57

when both of their credit cards were stolen

31:00

and thousands spent

31:03

all signs pointed to Tracy that

31:05

their daughter-in-law had stolen their credit cards, but

31:07

John, upon hearing this,

31:09

he wasn't having it.

31:11

That then led to a division in the Pittman

31:13

family,

31:14

and John was now

31:16

all Tracys.

31:18

All Tracys when he was around, though,

31:20

he was a doctor, he worked ridiculous hours, about 120

31:23

a week, which frankly,

31:25

we need to give our doctors a break.

31:28

This then, you know, Tracy was not happy about

31:30

that and fights erupted. One

31:32

evening, their fight escalated to the point

31:35

where the furious Tracy brought

31:37

out a handgun and pointed it at

31:39

John, who

31:41

upon seeing his wife pointing a gun at him

31:43

said, hmm, he thought about it and said, fuck

31:46

this, and he sprinted ahead of the house,

31:48

which I think probably most people would do

31:50

outside the house, though.

31:51

He heard a shot. Tracy, she

31:53

came out. Her demeanor now completely different.

31:56

She was oh so calm and she was now apologizing

31:59

to John and telling him Listen

32:00

buddy, hubby, I just tried

32:02

to kill myself. Obviously

32:05

she missed. And John, he called the police,

32:07

just to be maybe on the safe side. Maybe

32:09

don't try that again.

32:11

Either way, this had to be reported and help

32:14

provided to Tracy.

32:16

She was charged with the discharge of a firearm

32:18

and sent for a six month psychological

32:21

treatment. Not long after this,

32:23

the couple had a band-aid baby, Britt,

32:26

born in 1990. they

32:28

were hoping this would

32:30

help the marriage. It

32:32

rarely does and nothing

32:34

really changed for poor John and

32:36

now poor Burt.

32:39

John, he had a feeling, feeling by Tracy,

32:41

Tracy who wanted to increase

32:44

his life insurance policy, okay,

32:47

odd,

32:48

but he worked long hours

32:50

so he couldn't really keep an eye on what she was up to while

32:52

he was away. He didn't really like the idea of

32:54

her being with his son alone all

32:56

the time.

32:57

So John, he hired a private detective.

33:01

The detective learned that Tracy was

33:03

busy. She just liked dudes.

33:06

Another Michelle Williams over here.

33:08

Like a lot, a lot of dudes. And

33:11

some of these were shady as hell.

33:14

In 1992, John eventually moved

33:16

the family again. This time to Chicago. I

33:18

think he was trying to, okay,

33:20

let's go away from Denver to Chicago. Let's try

33:22

and start fresh.

33:23

I mean at this point Tracy was

33:25

off, she's bouncing off the walls. During

33:29

the process of the move by the way from Denver

33:31

to Chicago, their tree dogs and

33:33

their four cats somehow got

33:36

sold to an experiment lab.

33:39

Tracy was the one who was responsible for

33:41

organizing the pet moving so um

33:44

that's pretty messed up.

33:46

And then the last straw which broke

33:48

the a camel's hump or whatever.

33:51

And this was genuinely scary as shit.

33:53

One day, Tracy called John and

33:56

said to him, Listen, we need to talk. Let's

33:58

meet at our apartment. Okay,

34:01

coincidentally then, the private investigator

34:03

who was still tailing Tracy called

34:06

John a couple minutes later.

34:08

John told the private investigator on the phone, Hey,

34:11

Tracy, she just, you know, asked me to

34:13

go meet at their place. The

34:15

private investigator at this very moment had

34:17

been tailing Tracy and he said

34:19

to John,

34:20

Do not go home.

34:25

See, their apartment was on the east side

34:27

of town.

34:28

Tracy was currently driving

34:30

west. John never

34:33

showed up. Tracy called and said, I'm

34:36

here, where are you? No

34:38

idea if someone shady was waiting for John,

34:40

but it's a definite possibility. Their

34:43

marriage was now over. Who again,

34:45

who knows what was waiting for John? Maybe

34:48

a lollipop. The

34:50

divorce was finalized in 1996, but

34:53

the shitstorm was not

34:55

over.

34:56

custody battle for young Burt, it

34:58

was on! Tracy would accuse

35:00

John Pittman of sexual abuse, of child

35:02

abuse, of all that, the worst accusations

35:05

he controlled somebody, literally the stinkiest

35:07

shit he controlled.

35:08

And the accusations were found out to be what they

35:11

actually were, false.

35:12

And it was also around this time learned

35:14

that Tracy had forged John's signature

35:17

on a life insurance document, so hey!

35:21

In the end though, Tracy got Burt, and

35:23

John had had to pay her thousands per month

35:25

in child support.

35:27

Not long after, Tracy met someone

35:29

online, and his name

35:31

was Michael Roberts, Aussie entrepreneur.

35:34

They really hit it off, mate. My Australian

35:36

accent is getting worse. I mean, they

35:38

hit it off so much so that they married after

35:41

8-8-1-8, 18 days, less than three

35:44

weeks.

35:45

And Michael, he would move from Australia

35:47

to America, and as expected,

35:50

he was crock-a-y. ahh

35:52

god dammit he was mad

35:54

about Tracy. That

35:56

would not last. Obviously

36:00

marrying someone after 18 days

36:03

of knowing them. You kinda

36:05

get what you deserve. You kinda get what you

36:07

deserve at that point if you're kind

36:09

of stupid enough to do that.

36:12

A few months in, triple was, once

36:14

again, baruwin.

36:16

Tracy cheated. However, Michael

36:18

he stuck with her and stood

36:20

by her through the custody battles

36:23

that were still going on with John.

36:25

Now Michael Roberts of course, he

36:27

only had one opinion of John Pittman,

36:30

an opinion molded by Tracy

36:33

who told that

36:34

John was just an awful abusive

36:36

real bastard.

36:38

Around the same time,

36:40

she was busy. Tracy

36:42

was busy. She liked to keep busy. I'll give her that. that.

36:45

She also accused a dentist, who

36:47

also happened to be a former boyfriend,

36:49

a guy named Joseph Laspisa of

36:52

sexually assaulting her while she was

36:54

under, you know, anesthetic, while she was knocked

36:56

out.

36:57

She woke up, you know, during dental

36:59

surgery or whatever and saw that he

37:01

was basically on top of her jerking off.

37:04

She tried to get $150,000 out of him and

37:07

this would end up costing Joseph his livelihood.

37:10

How true that actual whole story is.

37:13

Well, You know, it's hard

37:15

to... Tracy isn't exactly the most honest

37:17

person at this point. So

37:19

eventually, Michael and Tracy, the Roberts,

37:22

they moved too early. Why? In 1998.

37:26

The last decade was

37:28

a busy one, alright, for Tracy. Uh, maybe,

37:30

and maybe Neil Michael took her to this really

37:32

kind of remote, quiet town because he was hoping,

37:35

hey,

37:35

you can't cause too much trouble here.

37:38

Boy, was he wrong. Soon

37:40

after the move, they welcomed their first child

37:43

together. a boy, and then in 2000s,

37:45

a girl.

37:46

The couple, they had their own business set up,

37:48

an IT company. And, you know, they were part

37:50

of the community, they were part of the church, They

37:53

were well liked by the people of early everything

37:56

picturesque

37:58

on the service anyways

38:00

And then came that fatal evening

38:02

on the 13th of December 2001 when Tracy, she became

38:04

a here, a

38:06

gosh darn heck and heck hero, you know,

38:09

by killing neighborhood

38:10

child Dustin Weedy.

38:12

No, Dustin. He was a quiet kid,

38:15

loved computers. He was a loner, gentle.

38:18

Someone, not exactly, you know, you would

38:20

think could do what Tracy was

38:22

claiming he had done.

38:24

So now, the story back to late 2001.

38:26

Michael, as I said, he rushed

38:29

back too early and he offered

38:31

a $10,000 award for information

38:34

about the other intruder, this

38:36

mysterious man who was with Dustin. But

38:39

Michael was absolutely shocked, yeah, that

38:41

this happened. Michael considered Dustin

38:43

a friend, like they wouldn't mess

38:45

around, like Michael was showing him how to work computers

38:48

and

38:48

all that stuff. Michael was kind of taking Dustin

38:51

under his wing. Why would he do this?

38:53

And Tracy said it was not about money. They

38:55

never asked for money, they never stole anything. She

38:58

thought Dustin and this other intruder had

39:00

been there to murder her. But

39:01

why?

39:02

Maybe there really just is nothing to

39:05

do in early. Well,

39:06

Michael thought, what if Dustin

39:08

and this other guy had been hired to

39:11

kill her? What if this was a contract

39:13

killing?

39:14

He mentioned to Tracy that dentist

39:16

who assaulted you, Joseph of Laspisa what

39:19

if he had hired somebody to kill you you know they

39:21

they Joseph they a court hearing

39:24

coming up in her case against him

39:26

maybe he would want her gone

39:29

Tracy though she said hmm interesting but

39:31

no it was John Pittman who had

39:33

hired who had hired who would organize

39:35

this assassination plot her nemesis

39:38

see Dustin's car had been parked outside

39:40

the Richter house he was you know he was popping

39:42

out of a car to kill her be right back and

39:45

so the police they investigated his car

39:47

and they found there a pink notebook.

39:50

In the notebook, Dustin, he wrote of

39:53

a mysterious man, ooh, a mysterious

39:56

John Pittman, of course, who'd hired

39:58

him to kill Tracy, and a-

40:00

11 year old Burt.

40:02

Now this note, this diary

40:04

if you want to call it that, it was written, it was written in

40:06

Dustin's handwriting so okay,

40:09

it was him who wrote this but like,

40:12

what? How would

40:14

Dustin Weedy have crossed paths with

40:16

John Pittman who lived far away

40:19

and would never, how would they interact

40:21

with a, how would John Pittman find

40:23

a 20 year old Loner kid that

40:25

doesn't even make sense and if he did

40:28

somehow meet him in person bumped

40:30

into him met him online whatever

40:32

Why would he hire Dustin to kill

40:34

again a quiet shy kid who

40:36

you know? I think we can safely assume

40:39

never hurt anybody the police

40:41

didn't buy that story

40:43

And that was Tracy's story

40:45

Tracy was pointing the finger at X husband

40:48

John

40:49

police didn't think so and they found her

40:51

entire story What you know everybody else

40:53

was lapping it up

40:55

include and Tracy even went on the Montel

40:57

Williams show The

40:58

police were in disbelief of this entire affair.

41:00

They were calling bullshit Even

41:03

though there wasn't really enough to go on and

41:05

it was closed as a self-defense

41:07

case self-defense shooting case

41:09

closed Tracy she would stay married to

41:12

Michael and life went on But

41:15

it's Tracy Richter, so you know it won't stay

41:17

boring for very long Long.

41:19

Roughly a year after the shooting, on

41:21

Thanksgiving Day 2002, a

41:24

man was discovered unresponsive

41:26

at a graveyard near early.

41:29

It was Brett Weedy, Dustin Weedy's father.

41:32

He had shot himself by his son's

41:34

final resting place.

41:36

He left a note saying that his heart was

41:38

broken after Dustin's death,

41:40

and he cried every day.

41:42

More tragedy for the Weedy family.

41:45

They wouldn't roll over. In late 2003,

41:49

they filed a wrongful death suit

41:51

against Tracy.

41:52

It would be dismissed, however, two years later.

41:55

In the meantime, Michael and Tracy's marriage

41:57

went south. Tracy had more

41:59

affairs- They fought same old story

42:02

She kicked she punched holes in the wall and

42:04

of course Michael every time Michael would be

42:06

the one ending up in police custody after

42:08

these fights where Tracy would would

42:11

rescue him from his cell by

42:13

Not pursuing the charges which were obviously

42:15

bullshit Michael he started

42:18

to then believe his time was running

42:20

out for as long as he was with Tracy

42:22

if he thought there was many times when

42:24

she came like

42:25

very very close to ending him.

42:28

In 2004 Michael, much like

42:30

John,

42:31

had enough and he filed for divorce.

42:34

In the meantime Tracy, what do you think

42:36

she did? She did exactly what you're thinking. She began

42:38

to accuse him of abuse, of child abuse,

42:40

of sexual abuse. Like she's not even original

42:43

with this shit. Like we've seen this script before.

42:46

She's the same inventory

42:48

of accusations that she just but

42:51

this time though, Tracy, ooh,

42:54

she had another trick up her sleeve,

42:56

the attack. Tracy, she went to

42:58

the police now and she said, ooh, remember

43:00

when I was telling you that John was behind

43:03

this? Actually, I don't know how to

43:05

think about it, I was wrong. It was

43:07

Michael, Michael, who just

43:09

so happened to be out of town when the break-in occurred. break-in

43:11

occurred. Hmm, very, very convenient

43:14

for him.

43:15

Bet he didn't count on her shooting Justin though.

43:17

And she said Michael talked in

43:20

his sleep

43:21

and he admitted to organize the whole

43:23

thing

43:24

while he was asleep.

43:26

She would tell anyone that would listen, that Michael

43:28

had been part of the attack on her

43:30

and that he was a madman, a dangerous

43:33

man.

43:34

And he had, he needed to get what was coming to him.

43:36

In 2007, the divorce was finalised.

43:39

Tracy, despite Michael's best

43:41

efforts, she got the kids.

43:44

From there she moved to Omaha, Nebraska

43:47

and Michael, he would also move to

43:49

Nebraska, like not for Tracy, for

43:51

his kids. He wanted to be close to

43:54

them

43:54

and in 2009 he would have to file

43:57

a restraining order against Tracy.

44:00

See, Tracy was gonna ride him

44:02

all the way. She went to the sheriff

44:04

with a picture, a photograph of Dustin's dead

44:06

body, saying Michael had planted it on

44:08

her, planted a photo on her car, and

44:10

that he was trying to drive her insane,

44:13

trying to drive her insane, because he was

44:15

a part of it. Like, she was throwing so

44:17

much stuff at him, he had to

44:19

say, go to the courts and say, stop it.

44:22

Now,

44:23

Michael was cleared, and the sheriff's department

44:25

actually concluded she was basically

44:27

trying to make reports against him because,

44:29

of course, there was a child support

44:31

proceeding coming up and, well, you

44:34

know what that means.

44:35

I'm doing the Let the Records show, I'm doing the,

44:37

you know, two fingers and thumb gesture as in,

44:39

uh, money. Tracy, you know, seeing

44:42

the police though,

44:43

at this point, they weren't believing her, they weren't interested

44:45

in her bullshit. She told the

44:47

detective, hey,

44:49

you just made my list.

44:52

Around the same time, Michael, he

44:54

also suddenly began to

44:56

severely doubt Tracy's version of events. He

44:59

would be speaking with investigators telling them everything

45:02

he knew.

45:03

And around this time, Tracy Richter would also

45:05

get convicted of welfare fraud,

45:08

and she got probation. Now

45:09

this is kind of the weird part of

45:12

it.

45:12

I like how I'm saying that, this entire story is messed

45:14

up, but this is the weird part, really.

45:16

Around this time, talking about 2010-ish,

45:19

Tracy changed her name, too. too.

45:22

Interesting. Sophie Corina

45:24

Therese Baronin Edwards.

45:27

She was living under that name, she went from

45:29

Tracy Richter to this mouthful.

45:31

It sounds like a European aristocrat, like

45:34

she was living under that name, her business was under

45:36

that name, she also went around with

45:38

a British accent, which I can

45:40

only assume

45:41

was hilarious.

45:43

And so while she was busy trying to frame Michael

45:45

for anything and everything she could, fuck

45:48

her shock Kennedy you know. a new prosecutor

45:51

entered town and reopened the shooting

45:53

of Dustin Weedy, and new things

45:55

were discovered.

45:56

Namely, that Dustin had been shot in the back

45:59

of the head while laying

46:00

on the floor. This was not self-defense,

46:02

this was murder.

46:04

Also there were no signs of forced entry

46:06

and the Roberts, unlike neighbors, the

46:09

Roberts did lock their doors but

46:11

the doors weren't busted in. They

46:13

also entered, these intruders,

46:15

entered without weapons. Like

46:16

there was nothing was found. The entire scene

46:19

again, as we see all the time, it didn't make sense.

46:22

And on the 27th of July 2011, Tracy

46:24

Richter was arrested for the murder of Dustin

46:27

Weedy.

46:28

Funnily and weirdly enough, When

46:30

Tracy was arrested, in her possession

46:32

was name change documentation.

46:35

She was gonna change her name

46:37

again. I can only assume

46:39

that her name, Tracy Richter, kept appearing

46:41

online and so she was like, shit if I have

46:44

to find another man, I better

46:46

change my name.

46:47

This time it was going to be to Heidi

46:50

Joanna Frostbacca. Unusual

46:53

name. That's a very strange name, right?

46:55

Why that name in in particular, was

46:57

she gonna change it to that? I hear you, Barking

46:59

Big Dog. Well, the

47:01

reason she was gonna change it to that name was

47:03

because Heidi Frostbacca

47:06

just so happened to be

47:08

the same name as Michael

47:11

Roberts' new

47:12

wife. And so, Tracy

47:15

Richter, her trial started on the 24th

47:17

of October, 2011. Now,

47:20

this is what actually happened.

47:22

Tracy Dixie bought the pink notebook and

47:24

she lured Dustin over that day.

47:27

Her friend accidentally turned up that day so

47:29

she had to make it up an excuse for her friend to leave.

47:32

Then Dustin returned and she held

47:34

him at gunpoint. She literally took

47:37

a gun out,

47:38

pointed it to this 20 year old kid's head

47:40

and forced him to write all the stuff

47:43

in the journal saying that he'd been hired

47:45

by John Pittman.

47:46

Then

47:47

she killed him and she planted the book in

47:49

his car. was shot

47:52

in the head for the last time 10 minutes

47:54

after the previous shot. She

47:58

had 10 minutes to think about it and she-

48:00

She also wanted to make sure he was dead

48:02

before the police arrived.

48:03

He could not live to tell the story. Tracy

48:06

said she was choked out by pantyhose. Yeah,

48:08

that didn't match her injuries. She

48:10

was choked out,

48:12

but it was by herself. She made up everything.

48:15

And you know what you'd think it'd be over when she

48:17

was found guilty on the 4th of November. But

48:20

no, um, she was not done

48:22

even when she was convicted.

48:24

On the 5th of December 2011, Tracy

48:27

was sentenced to life in prison without

48:30

the possibility

48:31

of parole. Now, this

48:34

is where her being a horrible

48:36

human being takes another leap, another leap

48:38

in bound, because in prison, she

48:41

became pen pals with a convicted

48:43

child rapist named Jim

48:46

Landa, and they would write Tracy and

48:48

this guy, they would write creepy letters

48:50

to each other.

48:52

In one of the letters Tracy sent to

48:54

this gym, she gave him enough

48:57

information

48:58

to locate Michael

48:59

and the two children, the

49:02

two youngest children that she had had with

49:04

Michael. And she was like, in

49:06

the letter, well this is where they live, this

49:08

is their description and you know, if something were to happen

49:11

to them,

49:12

wink wink, well it wouldn't be the end

49:14

of the world.

49:15

She also, from prison again, tried

49:17

to destroy the reputations

49:20

of those who wronged her. See there

49:22

was a site called Ripoff Report,

49:25

it's no longer up, but

49:26

basically on this site

49:29

anyone could publish a complaint about

49:31

anybody they wanted, anybody's business.

49:34

Essentially it was like, um,

49:36

it was kind of like, you know, Google reviews

49:38

for a business or a company, but

49:40

it didn't have to be verified. And the complaints

49:42

could also be about people.

49:44

So essentially it's libel.com.

49:47

And if the accused person wanted the

49:49

complaint to be removed,

49:51

a $2,000 non-refundable fee had

49:54

to be paid, and evidence of

49:57

the falseness of this complaint had to be presented

49:59

as I said.

50:00

It was literally just libel.com. John

50:03

Pittman and Michael Roberts were both

50:06

highly impacted by this.

50:08

Tracy's son, Bert, it seems like she

50:11

had quite a lot of control over him, she used

50:13

him as a pawn to get information about both

50:15

John and Michael that she could then put

50:17

on this website.

50:19

As for Michael Roberts, back in 2011

50:22

he got full custody of the children and

50:24

he moved to California with them. This

50:26

plan was to move back to Australia, but

50:28

that plan was shattered. When Tracy

50:31

was convicted and it was ruled she had visitation

50:33

rights with her children,

50:35

so he couldn't take them out of the country.

50:37

That was until, however, 2014,

50:40

when after another long battle,

50:42

Michael and his family successfully moved

50:44

back to Brisbane, Australia.

50:47

At least they were safe from Tracy. They

50:49

got away.

50:50

Tracy who led quite the

50:52

life of schemes, of scams, and

50:55

of murder.

50:56

I do believe she tried to murder John Pittman

50:59

and she would have murdered Michael Roberts. And

51:01

she definitely murdered Dustin Weedy, so wow.

51:03

What a woman, what a woman. I mean, hey, this is a

51:05

story of two women who, um...

51:08

Like, femme fatale is the only way

51:11

you could put this story. These are two of

51:13

the dictionary definitions

51:15

of femme

51:16

fatales.

51:18

Tracy destroyed the lives of many people,

51:20

entire families at that.

51:22

Even her own family. I mean, she tried

51:24

to sick a sexual predator on her own children. Though

51:27

ultimately she destroyed her own life as she brought it all

51:29

upon herself. So I guess

51:32

you kind of could qualify that as a happy ending.

51:34

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51:34

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