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here. Joins a bad state is

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great Get has exactly recently for

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so long. I'm

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actually speed of lonely. I'm so are.

0:16

So I'm I'm home alone. Have been

0:19

home long if like last couple a

0:21

days ago. And yeah, I'm a fan

0:23

of any burglars ring know and fending

0:25

off fucking lonely. As man I hate

0:27

being alone. I really, I think I

0:29

just. I would turn into alcoholic. If you're

0:32

high lived by myself I totally would. I

0:34

really just do not like stay at home

0:36

of i sell radio because I work from

0:38

home. I says you've just been in my

0:40

apartments twenty four seven get drink it all

0:42

on the drink. I forget how is the

0:44

I'll reckon but yet sucks. I hate a

0:46

hey that's what are the benefits I think

0:48

of of having regular jobs. The actually are

0:50

forced to grow and like interact with people.

0:53

Yeah, I'm really. Most. Jobs yeah like

0:55

I have a normal job would chose to work

0:57

remotely zone. Oh yeah alone quite lot during the

0:59

day though. So what am I complaining about that

1:01

has a theory and he has added a position

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is a i don't know as as holier lie

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here at Different Now you get when you go

1:08

the of know allow them by. I had like

1:10

a of my. My. Wife my gig moment

1:12

evening. I guess you evaluate nobody even a loner

1:14

yeah of and alone to staring at the staring

1:16

at the walls. the ferry to shock and. Dark.

1:23

So. What else are cook just? ah, thank

1:25

you Jaws! It's my favorite movie of all

1:27

time. is his Jaws. Yeah seriously. I love

1:29

jobs. I think it's it's the perfect movie.

1:31

And it's It's great. It's just there. I

1:33

think I seen it very well as a

1:36

kid as well so I've always loved it

1:38

then. But meals were really well written, well

1:40

acted is directed. such a port. Movies like

1:42

first big Blockbuster or whatever but it as

1:44

Scylla to my fear even today have been

1:46

swimming pools of afraid I'm going to get

1:48

my chef. You have to admit, it sticks

1:50

like you showed me. I feel. I think

1:53

we've. Top. It before but usually have enough fill your.

1:55

We used to watch all of the same movies Cydia

1:57

the Angry, a Kid and the thing is that I

1:59

have two older brother. And keep your oldest

2:01

in your family and your kids so I would

2:03

feel the stuff before you would yeah cuz my

2:05

brothers are Showed to me so like RoboCop Predator

2:07

aliens all like the cool shit of violence shit

2:09

that yeah, we're too young to be watching and

2:12

then I'd show Keith But

2:16

yeah, what did I remember when you showed me Jaws it

2:19

was one of those one of those core memories Mm-hmm. It's

2:21

so good. It's such a good movie

2:23

stuck with me great movie Yeah, I got my Jaws

2:25

mug my red sucks water water thingy. I'm ready to

2:27

rock and roll as we get pond But you know

2:29

has the listener how do you think they're doing today?

2:32

They're doing all right tell us hope so. Yeah, please you are

2:34

listen Do you want us to a minute of silence so they

2:36

can talk to the camera? Maybe we're having a rough day. Yeah

2:39

We go to okay. No, we don't Moving

2:43

on All

2:45

right He's drinking water

2:47

out of a Guinness glass. I'm indeed.

2:49

Yeah trying to imagine his goodness. Yeah,

2:51

he closes eyes. You know imagination After

2:54

his every sip delicious. Yeah. All

2:57

right. So today We

2:59

are talking about the

3:01

dark prince of Bel-air

3:06

This is a really super interesting story

3:08

um so this is a story that

3:11

I Actually came across a while ago

3:13

for the folks at home who check

3:15

out the that chapter YouTube channel I

3:18

covered a story set in the same place a couple months

3:20

ago and as well as research that I came across this

3:22

story So this is a story

3:24

of Nathan Brooks the guy who

3:26

canceled Halloween in the small town of Bel Air Yeah,

3:29

there's always one there's always one person a guy who

3:31

doesn't have to ruin it for everybody else I mean

3:33

he did ruin up by sawing off heads, which is

3:35

yeah, I mean hey listen to this guy anymore Halloween

3:37

than that Yeah, if it does I don't hear yeah

3:41

Doesn't get any darker than that. So today we have the

3:43

story of the dark prince of Bel Air This

3:45

story kind of rocks in a weird way.

3:47

I mean it doesn't but you know what I mean

3:50

Yeah, yes, I go to say oh, I got a

3:52

really good story for today I mean it's about like

3:54

horrible shit happening, but it's a good story. Yes Yeah,

3:56

this is one of them because it's very horrible double

3:58

murder, but if you're a metal like Keith and I,

4:01

it rocks. Which we are. We're very

4:03

heavy, Mo. Oh, do you need to do this?

4:05

Or something? Your arms are looking very colorful. No, no,

4:07

same. Okay. Actually, no, it is.

4:09

They're blooming. Do you know what it is? It's

4:11

cause I'm for like the first time in like weeks. I'm

4:14

wearing a gray T-shirt. Oh, yeah. I always wear black.

4:16

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. Wow, it's weird to see

4:18

you with that. Yeah, yeah. I bought you that. It

4:20

keeps wearing a Salem. That's a T-shirt. I know. Okay,

4:22

yeah, yeah. I'm nice because I'm wearing white next time.

4:25

Or a different shade of black. A

4:27

lighter black. That's a vicious fuck raised. A lighter

4:29

color of black, same color. So

4:31

today we have the young man, the story of a

4:33

young man obsessed with Satanism, a small town and Halloween

4:36

that could read. This story could be about you. What

4:38

more do you need to tell us? I mean,

4:40

listen, what's their all Halloween stories? They all got

4:43

to take place with you. Young people, Halloween, small

4:45

towns, this is like goosebumps or some shit. I

4:47

do like the old ones. Actually, what I really

4:49

liked was, are you afraid of the dark? Are

4:51

you afraid of the dark? Was that the one

4:53

where it's a dog with the glowing eyes and

4:55

the intro was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. So

4:58

good. I think it was about six months ago,

5:00

you and I, we got drunk and just started watching. But

5:02

you can find it all on YouTube, pretty much. Yeah, but yeah,

5:04

I think it was great. We got really drunk. We kind of

5:06

ran out of movies to watch. And we were just like, oh,

5:09

put on the... Speaking of movies to watch, we watched, there's

5:12

a listener out there who recommended, what's that movie called?

5:14

We watched, I have already forgotten the name of it.

5:17

Talk to me. Talk to me. We watched Talk to Me.

5:19

I know the listeners are curious

5:22

to hear our horror movie reviews.

5:25

It's review time with Mike and Keith. And

5:27

it kind of sucked. I didn't really

5:30

like it. I didn't like it. I

5:32

thought it had some good moments. Well,

5:34

especially towards the end. It took a while to get

5:36

into it though. Yeah, that's the problem. It's like, if

5:38

I could only start it like 60 minutes in, I

5:40

remember watching it and we're like, how could we shoot

5:43

a movie, nothing is happening? Yeah, after an hour, we're

5:45

like, okay, we're getting going. Yeah, exactly. And then it

5:47

moved over. Yeah, it was way too late. So it

5:49

had some good ideas and had some good moments, but

5:51

overall not scary. And yeah, just kind of meh. I

5:54

would say overall forgettable. Forgettable wasn't the best.

5:56

Forgettable. Yeah, very, very forgettable. I won't be

5:58

watching it again. No. I will not, absolutely

6:00

not. But where are we talking about getting it? What's

6:03

the story? Oh yeah, Nathan. Where

6:06

am I? So,

6:08

this story, as I said, yeah, takes place at

6:10

Halloween or just before the best season of the

6:12

year. You know, it's, we're recording this, listen, listeners

6:15

can be listening to this anytime of the year.

6:17

This is gonna be up. Evergreen. This is what

6:19

we call evergreen content in the business. That's it,

6:21

maybe this Halloween. You never know. Listen to people,

6:23

they can be listening to this in six months

6:25

time. First time listener, whatever. Halloween is the best

6:27

season of the year. I look forward

6:29

all year to Halloween, to October really, because it's

6:31

the best month of the year. Late September, early

6:34

October, late September, October is the best

6:36

time of the year. I get sick of it, but then

6:38

after, like, by the time November is over, I'm like, alright, let's

6:40

get back to Halloween again. Yeah, that's right. Fuck this shit. I

6:42

love everything about it. I love the weather, the

6:45

general vibe, just the whole season. Yeah. I love

6:47

the movies coming. Yeah. I still find, it's a

6:49

little, like, I have specific movies I watch around

6:51

that time. I save them,

6:53

probably. Probably, like, October. I'm a very kind of,

6:56

I like to watch movies that's kind of, like,

6:59

during the summer. I'll watch horror summer

7:01

movies. So, like, you know, like, Chainsaw Massacre

7:03

or Fire of the Thirteen. To season,

7:05

you have your seasonal movies. I like horror

7:08

movies to compliment my surroundings. But

7:10

then, during winter, that's when I get up into the films,

7:12

I really like, you know, like, says that you as a

7:14

person. From Nala. No,

7:17

no, no, no, I can't think of anything. So,

7:21

what horror movies are you watching now? Well, we watched Talk

7:23

to Me, which could

7:25

be Set at Aitan. Yeah. Set in Australia.

7:27

That's true. I'm looking forward to that new

7:29

horror movie coming out from the perspective of

7:31

the killer, or whatever that's called. What? It's

7:34

kind of like, actually, it kind of reminds you of Fire of

7:36

the Thirteen a little bit. Oh, wait, I think it's in the

7:38

trailer for this. A lot of people at

7:40

home are just, like, slowly tuning out of listening to

7:42

this podcast as we... In a violent

7:44

nature. In a violent nature. All right, folks, prepare

7:47

for your view of that

7:49

from me and Keith in about six years, when

7:51

we get around to watching it. All

7:54

right, let's get into the story. What's it called

7:56

again? Nathan Brooke. Oh, the actual... Thanks

7:58

for all the sort of reminding me of that. What's the story

8:00

we're telling us today? What was the movie called? Oh

8:03

in a violent nature. Okay, cool Yeah, all right. So

8:05

anyways, let's get into this story at hell He's

8:13

not even listening I haven't you're watching the trailer

8:15

for the movie My

8:19

whole screen went blank like oh no, I know So

8:23

Bel Air funnily enough for the folks at home

8:25

who watched the videos as I mentioned as top

8:27

recently I visited it with the story of Brad

8:29

McGarry Brad McGarry was a fella.

8:31

He lived there He's a coal miner and

8:34

then one day he was found dead in

8:36

his basement And his best friend discovered him

8:38

shot in the head in the basement of

8:40

his own house So the police investigated

8:42

it they spoke to his friends who found them and

8:44

then they were they were looking into the entire story

8:46

Of what Brad McGarry was doing the day he was

8:49

killed by the way Just this happened in like 2017

8:51

I think around then like recently enough and then they

8:53

were looking at CCTV And shit

8:55

like this of like houses near him. I

8:57

bet anyway long story short spoiler alert It

8:59

turned out the friend his best friend who

9:01

discovered him this guy also worked in the mines

9:03

was the one who killed him Oh and

9:05

now his best friend He you know, he stumbled

9:08

across the body of course with his wife and

9:10

his daughter But it turned out the friend was

9:12

having an affair with Brad McGarry. There were see

9:14

he's being secretly gay with him Oh,

9:17

and then I was gonna play with his wife With

9:20

him, well that can happen. Yeah, but

9:22

yeah with him. Okay, Brad McGarry It's

9:24

well then he says that he was

9:26

gonna like expose that he was like,

9:28

you know that they're having better whatever

9:30

Okay, yeah to kill who knows that's true or

9:33

not. Yeah, but uh, but yeah, so that's the

9:35

last story I've covered in here Okay, cool. So

9:37

there you go. Although this one takes place quite

9:39

a long time before the story of Brad McGarry

9:41

But yes, I said same same

9:43

town same story coal mine country This

9:45

is set in Eastern, Ohio, but it's

9:47

really in the Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Western

9:50

PA area like it's right on the border.

9:52

So Bel Air, Ohio It's your typical American

9:54

small town, but it's not even actually big

9:56

enough to be called a tan Technically, it's

9:58

a village the village It's in

10:01

Belmont County, Ohio population couple hundred folks short of four

10:03

thousand residents And this is the town's claim to fame

10:05

other than the story I just mentioned and the fact

10:07

that we're talking about it. Keith do you like Salons

10:09

of the Lambs? Yeah, it looks like Salons of the

10:11

Lambs. Do you really love Salons of the Lambs? Yeah,

10:13

sorry. Oh yeah, that's pretty good. You know I think

10:15

it's like one of those movies where I'd never have

10:17

actually sat down and watched all the way through. Right,

10:20

yeah. If it's Am I gonna watch it like it's

10:22

one of those RTE classics. When it's Am I gonna

10:24

watch it? Yeah, I just think of bits of it

10:26

like yeah I'd never actually sat down and watched the

10:28

entire team from start to finish. Yeah, no, cuz it's

10:30

like one of those movies that's so famous. I feel like

10:32

I know exactly what happens. Okay, and I've seen so many

10:34

bits of it. This has been so Referencing.

10:37

I'm sure like most people probably haven't even seen

10:39

Jaws. They know the story. Yeah, you know, but

10:41

yeah, you got Jodie Foster and that

10:43

kind of stuff. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah, so if you're

10:45

a big Salons of the Lambs fan, the movie, then

10:48

you might recognize the Bel Air Ridge that appeared in

10:50

the film, the 1991 film,

10:52

the same area actually that the bridge closed down.

10:55

In fact this story, right, the story at the

10:57

Dark Prince of Bel Air It's creepy, but has

10:59

quite a few links to Silence of

11:01

the Lambs. So in the

11:03

movie, the serial killer Buffalo Bill, he's

11:05

supposed to be from like this area,

11:07

Pennsylvania, Western PA. So it's set

11:10

in the same area as Bel Air. The

11:12

actor who plays Buffalo Bill, Ted Levine, who's

11:14

a really good actor, he's in fact from

11:16

Bel Air and the house where Buffalo Bill

11:19

lives in the movie. It's only

11:21

70 miles from town. So the

11:23

more you know, we're in serial killer,

11:26

skinning people, lotions on the skin, all that

11:28

kind of stuff. Apparently so. Yeah. Hey, ding,

11:30

ding, ding. Like for such a small town.

11:33

A lot of history there. I know. A

11:35

lot of creepy history. It has. I've got

11:37

three things. What more do you need? That's

11:39

a triple ding. So yeah, outside of you,

11:42

Hannibal Lecter, Megastans, like me and

11:44

Keith are clearly, it's an otherwise unremarkable

11:46

place. It's had one

11:48

very, however, very ultra very

11:50

memorable night in September, 1995.

11:54

This is the story. On September 30th, 1995, Bel Air

11:56

High School student, year

12:00

old Ryan Brooks was hanging out at his

12:02

buddy, Eric, Eric's place. They were watching a

12:04

football game when he realized that time had

12:07

gotten away from him. It was almost half

12:09

one in the a.m. So being

12:11

a responsible kid, Ryan thought he'd better, you know,

12:13

give his parents a quick call to let them

12:15

know he was alright. He imagined his parents might

12:17

be worried as it was quite late and that

12:19

he decided to stay over at Eric's as, as

12:21

I said, it was already pretty late. He'd be

12:23

home in the morning. Instead of

12:25

his parents answering the phone though, it was

12:28

Ryan's big brother Nathan. Who

12:30

answered? Nathan was much

12:32

more of a loner than his brother, Ryan.

12:35

Only a year older, at 17, the

12:37

two got along just fine, having

12:39

occasional arguments as brothers do, but

12:41

never anything too serious or heckin'

12:43

real. Ryan told him of his plans

12:46

to stay over at Eric's, but Nathan

12:48

told him, uh uh uh,

12:50

didn't say to imagine that mom and dad wanted

12:52

him home right now! Ryan was kind

12:54

of annoyed, as you would be, if your brother is being a

12:56

dick. Yeah, tell him what to do. It's fucking tell him what

12:58

to do. Wait, you can talk to him here? Yeah, shut up.

13:01

But he said to Ryan I'll be home soon. Now,

13:04

Ryan obviously was enjoying himself. He's watching,

13:06

he's watching the big game, you know, he

13:08

didn't really want to leave. So he,

13:10

so he had a darlin' for about

13:12

another hour before he actually set off

13:14

home, but little did Ryan know that

13:16

that decision to delay returning home literally

13:18

saved his heckin' life. Mmm, procrastination can be

13:20

good sometimes. It is. Doubleding for procrastination.

13:22

I love procrastinating. That's what I do

13:24

for half this podcast. We're 16 minutes

13:26

in and we've done fuck all. I've

13:28

redone this. Me and Bon have a

13:30

throw ya. So Ryan

13:33

arrived home in the early morning hours,

13:35

expecting to find his family either already

13:37

tucked up in their beds or maybe

13:39

going through their bedtime routines. What

13:41

he didn't expect, though, was to be

13:44

walking into the aftermath of a crime

13:46

so horrific that when the perpetrator

13:48

finally went to trial, court officials

13:50

actually decided that the crime

13:53

scene photographs were far too

13:55

graphic to be shown to the

13:57

public. His parents were embarrassed.

14:00

dead, where he expected them to be. Only

14:03

they were very, very

14:05

dead. The first thing

14:07

Ryan saw that made him think something was

14:09

not quite right here, wasn't the usual broken

14:11

window or a door cracked

14:13

open, drawers being rummaged sure, anything like

14:16

that, no it was something simpler

14:19

but more traumatic. The

14:21

severed head of his father, complete

14:23

with three bullet holes in it. On

14:26

the kitchen table was a punch bowl

14:28

surrounded by sheets of paper. Resting

14:31

in the bowl was his father, Terry's,

14:34

decapitated head. Ryan

14:37

had no idea what had happened and he rushed

14:39

upstairs to check on his mother and his brother.

14:41

In his parents' bedroom he found the

14:44

bodies of both his parents, minus his

14:46

father's head. The crime

14:48

scene was straight up, it was straight out of a

14:50

horror movie, I mean this is full on torture porn,

14:52

x rated, not your usual, oral

14:55

rated cinematic affair. In addition to

14:57

his father being decapitated, his mother

14:59

had also been stabbed multiple times.

15:02

Obviously Ryan couldn't tell what had happened,

15:04

he simply saw lots and lots of

15:07

bloody wounds. And there

15:09

was no sign of Nathan. The

15:12

mystery did not last. On

15:16

one of the walls was a note, held

15:18

in place by a large knife. And

15:21

the note read, this is Nathan.

15:23

I murdered two people and

15:25

I'm going to turn myself in. Those

15:29

two people were his own parents. 53

15:32

year old Terry, Terry Nelson Brooks

15:34

and 52 year old Marilyn, Marilyn

15:36

Jelaine Brooks. What

15:38

Ryan didn't know was that when he

15:40

and Eric had been driving home, Nathan

15:43

had actually been at Eric's house looking

15:45

for his little brother but was turned

15:47

away by Eric's mom. They probably

15:49

would have driven right past Nathan as he was

15:51

walking covered in blood. Whether

15:53

or not Nathan would have kept his word

15:56

and turned himself in, we will

15:58

never know, as the decision was taken

16:00

out of his hands as Ryan called the

16:02

police minutes after finding his parents mutilated bodies.

16:05

Road Sergeant Don samples was first

16:07

to respond, followed shortly after by

16:09

a stream of sheriffs, officers and

16:11

the press. Nathan Brooks was

16:13

taken into custody by the time the son had come

16:15

up on that following morning.

16:18

Apparently he was found hiding near a

16:20

local cemetery. When Nathan

16:22

was arrested, he was now a administrator for the Belmont County

16:24

Jail and a deputy for

16:41

more than 32 years. He said the following

16:43

when he met Brooks, he

16:45

said, When I first encountered Nathan Brooks, he was

16:47

numb. He did not speak any words

16:49

and that was odd to me for a boy

16:52

of that age. He responded to my questions, but

16:54

he didn't initiate much. He seemed

16:56

very dark and distant and I'd never

16:58

seen someone with dark eyes like Nathan.

17:00

He was completely numb. I don't

17:02

want to say he scared me because that's not what it was,

17:05

but it was eerie if that makes sense. I

17:08

think I feared what he might do and I'm

17:10

telling you I'll never forget his eyes. I learned

17:12

during my career that when I've looked into someone's

17:14

eyes and they're nothing but black and empty, there's

17:16

something very dull. Like a doll's eyes

17:18

you might say. Oh, look at doll's eyes. Very nice. There

17:21

were two parents dead and we know that he was

17:23

hunting down his younger brother before he was arrested. So

17:25

yeah, something was very wrong. But then

17:27

we learned that about the hit list of names

17:29

and the others that he wanted to kill. I

17:32

wasn't scared of him, but he was very, very,

17:34

very empty young man who had those empty eyes

17:36

and that blank stare. So yes, very eerie to

17:38

me. So it sounds like

17:40

this guy was just like not there.

17:42

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He just completely snapped

17:44

and fucking detached himself from reality or

17:47

some shit. Well, actually, we'll get to

17:49

that too. So the

17:51

joint funeral of Terry and Marilyn

17:53

was on October 5th, 1995, and

17:55

it was attended by more than 50 people,

17:57

but drew attention from every corner of the

17:59

country. Locally, there were

18:01

many who knew Terry as a familiar face.

18:03

He was the neighbourhood mailman, and suddenly he

18:06

was a victim of a crime that was

18:08

being featured on national news. Rather

18:10

than wearing the typical funeral attire, Ryan

18:13

and several of his fellow students at

18:15

Bel Air High School chose to wear

18:17

their distinctive big red football jerseys in

18:19

honour of his parents who were incredibly

18:21

proud of their son and his achievements

18:23

both on and off the field.

18:26

He was also joined by Jamie, the

18:28

oldest of Terry and Marilyn's children. Of

18:31

course, Nathan though, he was missing

18:34

from the family line-up. Initially he was

18:36

being held at the Sargus Juvenile Centre

18:38

but was later moved to jail in

18:40

Burnsville. Sheriff Tom McCourt

18:42

apparently chose to have Nathan held there rather

18:44

than at the expected Belmont County Jail because

18:47

there was just no way to keep Nathan

18:49

away from the general population in

18:51

Belmont and it was probably a good idea to

18:53

keep Nathan away from every other human who has

18:55

ever lived on Earth. The

18:58

nature of the crime caught the attention of

19:00

the news media like that. The

19:03

more detail that came out, the greater the

19:06

public's curiosity spiraled into panic but not just

19:08

any panic. This is a

19:10

good ol' quality satanic panic. It

19:16

was the mid-90s after all, it was

19:18

all the rage to blame Big Red's

19:21

influence for the worst of

19:23

humanity's actions. For once though, there

19:25

was more than a little smoke

19:27

to this fair. As

19:29

always, when these gruesome crimes happen, people need to

19:31

find a reason for why the sai- you know,

19:33

whatever, however twisted the reason is, there has to

19:35

be a why. And though I

19:37

think we can all agree that Nathan

19:39

had to be experiencing some kind of

19:41

mental turmoil or illness, mental illness, but

19:43

that doesn't quite do it. You know,

19:46

that's not gonna sell the papers, you

19:48

really need to get in there. It's

19:51

religion always sells, you know, you gotta

19:53

add that satanic devilish

19:55

shit. I mean hey listen, I love

19:57

fucking covering this shit. and

20:00

adding murders, because it's just so interesting.

20:02

I've seen the headlines from around that

20:04

time, and it was like using the

20:07

separate head for black masses and stuff.

20:09

It was like eye-catching. Yeah. Which

20:11

I said, I would have bought the newspaper.

20:14

Yeah. But there was one councilwoman. She said,

20:16

so there's a quote from her. So

20:18

she said that his father, Terry, was my mailman at

20:20

the time. And he and I

20:22

would talk sometimes because he said he was concerned about

20:24

his kids and how they were doing in

20:27

school. She said, I got the impression that

20:29

he put a lot of pressure on those boys when

20:31

they came through our grades. But I've no idea

20:33

if that was one of the reasons why Nathan

20:35

did what he did. There was also a

20:38

ton of rumors going around that Terry was. He

20:40

was a fan of the old drink and a

20:42

bit of an alcoholic. But he would turn mean

20:44

when he drank. So the drinking, along with the

20:46

pressure he put on the boys, may have pushed

20:48

Nathan over the edge. Now, they want to say

20:50

this, like rumors, and it's completely

20:52

unstuck. Sir, he deserved to have his head cut off, is

20:54

what he's saying. That's literally what Keith just said. Is that

20:56

what I'm saying? That's what he said. I was reading between

20:58

lines what you just said there. But

21:01

yeah, it's a small town. There was

21:03

a small ladies room that was going

21:05

around. Really unsubstantiated. That's it. It's a

21:07

village. But even if they were true, it's

21:09

not an excuse to kill someone. Yeah, of course.

21:11

Of course. Yeah, yeah. I mean, what

21:13

he did as well was so horrific

21:15

and grotesque and torture, chopping off heads.

21:18

I mean, we'll get into it later,

21:20

but he tried to crucify his mother

21:22

to the wall. That's not just my

21:24

dad's a drinker and maybe smacks me

21:26

around. This is like overkill. Yeah, yeah,

21:29

yeah. So even without

21:31

the grim details, the scene of mayhem

21:33

and slaughter that Nathan Brooks left behind

21:35

in the early hours of that September

21:37

30, 1995, it's

21:40

beyond most sane people's comprehension.

21:43

His father, Terry, had been shot three times

21:45

in the head as he slept. All

21:48

three shots were delivered with a hunting

21:50

rifle at close range. The first would

21:52

have been fatal by its lonesome. The

21:55

Second two were unnecessary for anything

21:57

other than Nathan's own thirst for...

22:00

The satisfaction. Of creating

22:02

as much carnage as possible. Post.

22:04

Mortem Carry was decapitated with

22:07

a hacksaw. Before. His soon

22:09

it carried his severed head to the kitchen.

22:11

Place. Is in the bowl where it

22:13

would soon be discovered by Ryan. Not.

22:16

Long after. It. May seem

22:18

like that's as bad as if you get.

22:20

And Terry Brooks had borne the brunt of

22:22

Nathan's violent rage. but sadly for his mother,

22:25

Marilyn.was not the case. Like. Her

22:27

husband Maryland Brooks had been shot also

22:29

while she slaps which of the to

22:31

was shot first we don't know like

22:33

leader one of them that would have

22:35

woken up when he was shot before

22:37

they themselves were blasted a short range

22:39

via heavy chimp. the copper coated let.

22:42

After being shots, Maryland was then

22:44

stabbed multiple times. ten in total.

22:46

But these aren't any ordinary citizens.

22:49

Some. That were made with a nice. Others

22:51

were made with an axe. After

22:54

a d post mortem exam, the

22:56

coroner determined that many of the

22:58

injuries were consistent with her killer

23:00

attempting to pin Maryland's body to

23:02

the wall. Meat and had

23:05

tried to chris five own. Mother.

23:07

Now I don't think he would have been

23:09

able to do that but it's I don't

23:11

think it was really thinking too much about

23:14

how he was gonna be able to do

23:16

that and I think the fact that he

23:18

just tried to a's says lottery of madness

23:20

is taxes they found about been hammer at

23:22

the bottom of bed with what they wreck

23:24

your twenties good for or three but it

23:26

has asthma like it's usually you see these

23:28

cases where kids kill parents yeah is he

23:31

is use would gone wrong and shouted headboard

23:33

yeah yes use every tool defines it was

23:35

just completely as like said are like. the

23:37

overtones as he was as in his rage

23:39

psychosis and yeah hot as this is what

23:41

i think makes the story so interesting manservant

23:43

helene sessions go there were doing seafood always

23:45

for it's is because the story really as

23:47

a be set us up a has it

23:49

all right this it's story sad that a

23:51

month before alla when the small town as

23:53

young guy who's runaway murders as far as

23:56

i guess the stories like the quintessential urban

23:58

legends daniel happen in that is who You

24:00

know, you'll never believe the story. This is like

24:02

a story you tell around the campfire because then

24:04

you get to the twist of the story, which

24:06

is this part. Yep. That this is not like,

24:08

this is everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So

24:10

of all the terrifying discoveries found at 54496 Marjey

24:12

Avenue, Bel Air, that night, the

24:17

one that raised the most concern was

24:19

a simple piece of paper. So

24:21

at the top of the page in black

24:23

ink was the phrase, Satan shall give you

24:26

peace. Accompanied below by

24:28

a crude goat man, kind of

24:30

Baphomet style demonic drawing complete with

24:32

a pentagram to the side. So

24:35

this whole thing with the piece of paper though, the

24:37

goat, demon, whatever, pentagram, it was tension

24:39

grabbing. But it was the rest of

24:42

the page and all the other writing that contained

24:44

the actual worrying

24:47

content. Because it was a list

24:49

of 13 names. Two

24:52

of those names were crossed out.

24:55

One of those 13 was Ryan. And

24:57

next to Ryan were the

25:00

words, dismember, decapitate. To

25:02

say what Nathan did that night

25:04

was inspected is insanely understated. No

25:07

one seems to have seen it coming. Far

25:09

from having Nathan pegged from the office a bad

25:11

lad or a bit of a wrong man, the

25:13

reviews were far more in the opposite direction. Even

25:16

Monsignor George Yance, who both supervised Nathan as

25:18

an altar boy and presided over the funeral

25:20

of his parents, he described Nathan as an

25:22

always generous gentlemanly quiet and pleasant. It's always

25:25

the quiet ones, even when it's the loud

25:27

ones, it's the quiet ones. Yeah, you gotta

25:29

watch out for those quiet ones man. Thankfully

25:32

that can't be said about us because we

25:34

just talk non-fucking-self about nothing. We talk so

25:36

much that we start recording. Yeah, exactly. This

25:38

is great you're gonna start recording. So

25:41

back to the list. It's so strange.

25:43

It's fair to say it

25:46

was obvious when reading it

25:48

that Nathan's plans extended far

25:50

beyond killing both his parents

25:52

for such a quiet, calm,

25:54

peaceful, generous, nice guy. Like

25:57

his little brothers, several other names on the list.

26:00

Ethan's plans for them were jotted alongside.

26:02

Some of the names on

26:05

this list had, beside, Dismember,

26:07

Eviscerate, Skin, some

26:09

even had Malest. So,

26:12

fair to say, when the people on that list

26:14

found out they'd been the intended target of a

26:16

wannabe serial killer, it wasn't a fun day for

26:18

them. Which I think comes back to this whole,

26:20

you know, urban legend, dang

26:22

if you wow, my name was on a man. Imagine

26:24

finding out that your name, why, how would you feel?

26:27

No, like, especially if you call it honeydoom. It's like, what, why?

26:29

Yeah, you know, what, fuck, why are you here? Ryan,

26:34

it seems that if Nathan had got

26:37

him, he was scheduled for dismemberment and

26:39

decapitation. His mother and father

26:41

were second and third on the list,

26:43

his father had decapitate, which was done,

26:46

and his mother, Eviscerate, crucify, which

26:48

were attempted to be done. Details

26:52

of the note and the circumstances of the

26:54

murders quickly leaked through the press and

26:56

hours after the crime, almost everybody

26:59

in this small, tiny town had

27:01

heard about the satanic sacrifices at

27:03

the brooks house. News

27:05

of Terry Brooks' head being found in

27:08

the punch bowl, apparently prepared for a

27:10

satanic service of some sort, that really

27:12

seemed to catch on with residents as

27:15

it would. It's definitely,

27:18

listen, you get up in the morning, you know, you're

27:20

sleepy eyed, bleary eyed, you got your little morning wood

27:22

going, you know, you're ready to have a nice cup

27:24

of joe. That's what mailman's head was

27:26

just found in a fucking punch bowl in a

27:28

road. I know, like we grew up in a

27:30

small village, and kind of similar

27:32

population as this town. Yeah. And

27:35

there was a lot of rumours going around of shit

27:37

that went down, but it was just that, it was

27:39

all rumours. Imagine if it was true, like this, it

27:41

was crazy. Yeah, we had to kill our clown rumours.

27:43

I think we talked about that before. I think we

27:45

did, yeah. I think every town has a killer clown.

27:49

But yeah, especially because, you know, if this guy

27:52

was in school, you would have known his brother.

27:54

Yeah, yeah. Man. There was

27:56

a lot of rumours going around about this, about the

27:59

killer list. Your documents suggesting that

28:01

there may have been a key as several

28:03

lists as well known as much as the

28:05

one list. Boats. People they

28:07

would generate terrifies dust, they might be

28:09

honest and their worries that he was

28:12

working with order of satanic worshippers who

28:14

wanted to finish what he starts move.

28:17

Along fourth they actually came out and said

28:19

it or ports of such a list are

28:21

completely false. However during the trial the public

28:23

learned that to one tackling the was it

28:25

other lists none of the was Dave like

28:27

only oh sorry a lot more smoothly with

28:29

Oriental as old as a natural happened like

28:31

they are yeah those are going to live

28:33

in one of the journey on his as

28:35

Iran as. Mad

28:38

it's wilds. So. Bel Air

28:40

had it's very own boogeyman and still

28:42

to this day the legacy of what

28:44

Nathan did almost more importantly as well

28:46

why he did it has had ramifications.

28:48

Tried the town. There are children

28:50

who weren't born when Nathan Brooks killed

28:52

his parents, and the vast majority of

28:55

them will have never seen or heard

28:57

of The storied. We won't know to

28:59

groom. Details: Sport every year com spooky

29:01

season. they're still affected by it. There.

29:04

Are tons of interviews with residents of

29:06

Bel Air talking about how prior to

29:08

September target ninety ninety five kids in

29:10

Bel Air by to do and most

29:12

towns a would go on accompanied by

29:14

their parents should have treating around ten

29:16

without skipping it on a second thought

29:19

in the world. After Nathan though, everything

29:21

changed and there was such a pervading

29:23

sense of fear that hello, he was

29:25

literally tonsils for the following few years.

29:28

Even. Now rather than kids going out

29:30

and knocking on random doors like they

29:32

normally would and said kids in the

29:34

Town of Bel Air attend an event

29:36

organized by the local church groups. The

29:38

quote: move In the Park Unquote as

29:40

it's known as one of the most

29:42

popular social events of the year in

29:44

Bel Air Space sheath for young kids.

29:47

For. More than ten years now, it's

29:49

hosted hundreds of kids and their parents,

29:51

offering them hotdogs and treats and a

29:53

safe environment that sounds fucking lame. It's.

29:56

Going to be a good every single child in

29:58

village to wants to sit. The guy. Exactly.

30:00

you now be perfectly taste it. Ah this

30:02

is a my Rodrigo True to each never

30:05

mean you would go trick or treating. all

30:07

time good signs again Sweets and shit a

30:09

lot like agree with that much for and

30:11

homeowner offs yet area would we'd spend months

30:14

coming up with like our plans yes the

30:16

states to his. Doesn't have to treat

30:18

yeah now I and I can not an

30:20

idea walk around and costs of yeah I

30:22

know which was always as a black and

30:25

like. So the. Bizarre

30:27

thing of course as that nice and never actually

30:29

targeted random surgeon or trick or treaters. That's why

30:31

it's so odd that they would have this whole

30:33

thank you never. It's not like that whole story

30:35

of a guy who poisoned his kid or it

30:37

is not been the original. Kind of like genesis

30:39

of the urban legend of a guy killed his

30:42

own kids for the insurance money is Ellie is

30:44

estimated to point a sweet things I'm from. yes

30:46

I think the public or he could have gotten

30:48

humans are some of the had a list. yeah

30:50

he has actually eventually one hundred and you energy

30:52

and so city rotate and a. But.

30:55

That whole thing. You know, a whole

30:57

thing of the boon the party came

30:59

from. Simply moral panics. peters, obese, a

31:01

tonic element of the killings. Rumors flew

31:03

around town that Nathan might not have

31:05

been alone in his say sonic were

31:07

secret codes et cetera et cetera. Maybe

31:09

there were more of them hiding in

31:11

the woods? Of course sad I

31:14

was complete horse shit. Maybe I like to

31:16

see that there are see your goal setting.

31:18

it is a beast world more interest and

31:20

like why haven't been was how far as

31:22

I knew them. But. Runyon who lived

31:24

try the nineties I This was really nothing

31:26

new at all. And. For those

31:28

who didn't it's kind of hard to explain

31:30

just as seriously. People took the whole satanic

31:32

panic issue I just watched that episode of

31:34

the X Files are somewhat episode of calls.

31:37

Membered. They go to. school

31:40

is run by satanists oh yeah that was

31:42

that the cameras name it's a german name

31:44

and a bit second season two with your

31:47

you navy's get upset and are there like

31:49

they're actually a lawyer and league resemble gifts

31:51

that year that the satanic panic it was

31:53

in the wild time and we to stand

31:56

up for in the amityville horror uploaded it

31:58

didn't go to can boost from 1970s

32:01

right through to the 1990s there

32:03

was extreme fear of

32:05

the Satanic cults which gripped the

32:07

US. It was due to

32:09

like years of news and cultural touchstones

32:12

like the Mason family trial in

32:14

69, the excess movie in 73, then

32:16

the almond movie in 76 and

32:18

then the publication of the book Michelle Remembers

32:20

1980 which really popularized

32:22

the idea of these repressed memories

32:25

of Satanic abuse and and

32:27

this all primed the country for

32:29

this paranoia and moral panic and

32:31

satanic ritual of abuse. But

32:34

it all came to a head in

32:36

like the 1980s with daycare abuse allegations

32:39

Right, yeah, yeah. Yeah, the the McMurtain

32:41

preschool trial. There was just absolute hysteria

32:43

over this in the US and

32:46

vigilante parents actually dug under the

32:48

preschool searching for secret tunnels where

32:50

they believed that there was these ritual

32:53

sex acts that were happening on children

32:55

but it wasn't just confined to the

32:57

US like but the late 1980s allegations

32:59

began to appear throughout the world including

33:02

Canada, Australia, United Kingdom, New Zealand, the

33:04

Netherlands, Scandinavia. In the end a 1994

33:06

book claims that of more than 12,000

33:08

documents of the accusations nationwide investigating police

33:11

were not able to substantiate any allegations

33:13

of organized cult abuse. Sounds

33:15

like the people who wrote that

33:17

report were Satanists themselves. Of course, that's what they didn't want

33:19

you to think, isn't it? It was like all tied up

33:21

in a neat little package. I kind of feel like there

33:24

would probably at least be some because

33:26

we have a Satanist killer like we're literally talking about

33:28

like these people like there was killers who did kill

33:31

who were like obsessed with like devil worshiping shit

33:33

who actually did murder people. Yeah, we did. Like

33:35

we did. We don't do well. Yeah.

33:38

So I feel like there probably was

33:40

some. Yeah, but like he was he was a mental

33:42

man. Yeah, it wasn't like he had

33:44

like this organized cult. Mm hmm. You know, but

33:48

well, if there is if there is none,

33:50

I'm sure there is. A, let us know we're

33:52

beat. You do such a good

33:55

job. You haven't offended. So fair play to you.

33:59

Nathan. trial for the double

34:01

murder of his parents the following year

34:03

in front of a jury of six

34:05

men and six women all watched over

34:07

by County Judge Charles Knapp at the

34:10

Belmont County Court House. It

34:12

was an unusual case from the get-go

34:14

not only because of the media's attention

34:16

and bizarre circumstances of the murder but

34:19

also because of Nathan's defense. At

34:21

no time did the council for

34:24

the defense, Belmont County public defender

34:26

Jim Nicholson, actually argue against the

34:28

fact that Nathan killed his parents.

34:30

Instead, they were going with the

34:32

not guilty by way of insanity.

34:35

The thing with the insanity defense is

34:37

that it's not just the case of

34:39

proving that the defendant was, slash is,

34:41

suffering from the influences of mental illness

34:43

at the time of the crime but

34:45

that they were affected to such an

34:47

extent that they didn't know right from

34:49

wrong, which it's actually very specific and

34:52

it's quite hard to actually reach the

34:54

level of not guilty by what

34:56

you can't just say, I'm crazy! It's like no

34:58

you have a very specific set of circumstances to

35:00

reach. Yeah you could be but you still know

35:03

right from wrong. Right, exactly. The proof. Yeah, yeah

35:05

exactly. So it all came

35:07

down to the decision of a panel

35:09

of tree experts who were brought in

35:11

specifically to give their opinion as to

35:13

whether Nathan met the criteria to be

35:15

ruled legally insane when he killed his

35:17

parents. Unfortunately for Nathan, the

35:20

tree were split in their opinion and

35:22

it was not in his favor. Without the

35:24

experts majority backing, there was no shielding

35:26

Nathan from the full severity of the

35:29

law and with the jury

35:31

hearing more and more detail about his

35:33

parents demise and Nathan's kill list plans,

35:36

he was doomed to a guilty

35:38

verdict and the maximum punishment looked

35:41

likely early into the trial. In

35:43

the end, it took under three hours for

35:46

the jury to find Nathan guilty of two

35:48

counts of aggravated murder and a single count

35:50

of using a firearm in the commission of

35:52

a felony. On October 27th,

35:54

1996, again right before Halloween, Judge

35:58

Knapp sentenced Nathan Brooks to two

36:01

life sentences to run consecutively with

36:03

an extra three years for the

36:05

firearms charges. Under Ohio's

36:07

revised code, Nathan won't be eligible for

36:09

a parole hearing for at least 43

36:12

years. Keith

36:14

didn't with the finger, you fucking son of

36:16

a bitch. Back out of the

36:19

game. Shut up, I'm going to keep going. Nathan

36:22

is out of the game. So according to

36:24

online records, posted by the

36:26

Ohio Department of Rehabilitation and Corrections,

36:29

prisoner A337726, Nathan Brooks, at

36:31

the London Correctional Institution will meet

36:33

with members of the Ohio

36:35

Parole Board in August 2025. Wow,

36:39

Nathan, if you get out, you want to be

36:41

in the pot? You have them on, you're doing

36:43

pretty good. Today's the moment I'd like to behead

36:45

your dad and murder your mom and then write

36:48

a killer. So if

36:50

the parole board, if they do deem

36:52

Brooks to be rehabilitated, according

36:54

to online information, he could be out as soon

36:56

as October 1st, 2025. So

36:59

exactly 30 years since Nathan Brooks murdered his parents, but

37:01

I don't think he's going to get out. For

37:04

everything I've read, people who were involved in the case

37:06

or lived in Bel Air at the time, the murders

37:08

are still very much at like

37:10

front of mind. Yeah. For instance,

37:12

so yeah, I don't think he's going to. He'll

37:14

always be known as the man who canceled Halloween,

37:16

although I haven't really been able to find out

37:18

much about what he's like now, how he's getting

37:20

on in the London Correctional Institution in London, Ohio.

37:22

I haven't been able to find out much about

37:24

him. I've seen it. I've

37:27

seen a photo of it and like the before and after

37:29

and it looks like you have a slits his hair's move

37:31

from the top of his head down to his beard. He's

37:33

going upside down heads. Slip. Yeah.

37:36

Yeah. Okay. Okay.

37:39

Well, hey, listen, Nathan, I don't know. I was going to say, I was

37:41

going to say good for you, but I can't say that. So bad for

37:44

you. Bad for you. Yeah, exactly. Nathan

37:46

moving on. Actually, let me move on.

37:49

No, I'm going to actually, I'm going to

37:51

figure points. Look at me. He's looking at,

37:53

I'm stealing your move. To

37:55

the other Nathan Brooks. We talked

37:57

about Nathan Brooks, N-A-T-H-A-N. Nathan

38:00

N-A-T-H-O-N very similar

38:03

name to the uninitiated. Yeah,

38:05

and who I actually started researching initially

38:07

when, could you reach out to

38:09

me? Oh, did you start researching? You fucking idiot. I

38:11

was about halfway through and I was like, none of

38:13

what Mike said is in this. It's

38:16

like, this isn't even set at the Halloween. Dumbass.

38:20

No, I know, actually, I think I

38:22

came, I kept on coming across this

38:24

guy too, because it

38:27

happens, well, he's got the same

38:29

name and he also did something very similar, which

38:31

we will briefly talk about. In

38:34

2013, thanks to an incident

38:36

hundreds of miles away, Belair's

38:38

old wounds were brutally reopened,

38:41

thanks largely to some scary

38:43

similarities, one in particular. On

38:46

March 8, 2013,

38:48

John and Beth Brooks awoke to

38:50

a dark figure standing in the

38:52

doorway of their bedroom. Soon,

38:55

multiple shots rang out that night

38:57

and both John and Beth Brooks were

38:59

shot in the head multiple times. They

39:02

had no idea that it was their

39:04

son, 14-year-old Nathan. Nathan

39:08

was a happy and successful

39:10

kid who, seemingly, maybe just

39:12

like his namesake, Nathan

39:15

Brooks of Belair, he just snapped,

39:17

like that. Without saying a

39:19

word, Nathan raised a .22 Smith &

39:21

Wesson revolver he'd taken from his father's

39:23

gun cabinet at the family home in

39:26

Moses Lake, Washington, and fired six shots

39:28

at his parents, striking them both in

39:30

the head multiple times. Unlike

39:33

their 1995 counterparts though, John and

39:35

Beth survived the assault. John, in

39:37

fact, called 911 himself. It

39:40

was astonishing that both survived, and when

39:42

later asked, the neurologist simply couldn't give

39:44

them a straight answer as to why

39:46

they weren't dead after being shot in

39:49

the head multiple times, a revolver, but

39:51

there you go. Nathan was

39:53

taken in for questioning. He initially made up

39:55

a story about a home invasion before he

39:57

admitted that he had himself tried

39:59

to kill him. kill his parents. He actually had

40:01

thought he had killed his parents until the police

40:03

informed him otherwise. John and

40:05

Beth have actually gone on to forgive their

40:07

son saying that what he did was wrong,

40:09

but they understand why, which you

40:13

do? Their

40:16

son Nathan said he was in a deep

40:18

depression at the time and though his intention

40:20

had been to kill his parents, when he

40:23

pulled the trigger the last time he was

40:25

overcome with regret. See the thing is though,

40:27

he pulled the trigger six times and it

40:29

took him five to feel regret. Yeah, that

40:32

was the last time. First five though, it's

40:34

finally. Yeah, you know, it's only six shots.

40:36

Yeah, the last time, I really overdid it.

40:39

Yeah, exactly. I only wanted to shoot him five times.

40:41

The 14 year old broke, he was pretty angry

40:44

with his parents for grounding him. Mom,

40:46

fuck you! And

40:48

they took away his Xbox as an extra punishment for

40:50

getting detention when he was late to class. The

40:52

straw that broke the camel's back was when he

40:55

was told he couldn't play on the school's basketball

40:57

team no-mo. Well, no, like,

40:59

no we can't. Shit.

41:01

Sorry Nathan. Think it's true. Yeah.

41:04

As I said, he originally claimed a burglar, had

41:06

shot his parents, but he was quickly undone by

41:08

a CCTV recording, which you can view for yourself

41:11

online. It's actually kind of creepy. It's pretty unsettling

41:13

as he walks her house with a gun on

41:15

his hand. The fact that his

41:17

parents survived, that saved him from spending the rest

41:19

of his life in jail, and instead he got

41:21

15 years, he still remains

41:23

in penitentiary system today, and he's also

41:25

still in contact with his parents to

41:28

this day, where he sees them quite

41:30

regularly. So Nathan Brooks of Bel

41:32

Air, he is not. One

41:34

surprisingly, both his parents were diagnosed with PTSD. Yeah.

41:36

Like, I know, like, shot him, right? Sean Heddle

41:39

would probably do that to you. But, yeah, the

41:41

dad said he's many, many, many sleepless nights and

41:43

nightmares, lots of issues to overcome. I've

41:45

seen a lot of people do that, and they seem

41:47

like... They seem fine. Yeah. And people were talking away

41:49

and chatting. You'd never... You wouldn't really get shot in

41:52

the head. Yeah, yeah. I was like, I'm

41:54

sure it was like... You're like normal. They

41:57

look fine. Yeah. A lot of

41:59

big people. Alright,

42:04

there we go, that's the story

42:06

of Nathan and Nathan. The

42:09

two brooks boys and the story of

42:11

the devil murder, the satanic murder that

42:13

cancelled Halloween. I've perfectly

42:15

told for you this spring evening

42:18

or spring morning, whatever you're listening

42:23

to. Alright, Sinead, that wraps

42:25

up this whole episode of the TC Pod.

42:28

I'm going to say, tell me your thoughts. You

42:32

just riff for a while. Let's let you talk and see where you

42:34

go. I want to.

42:37

Don't name your kid Nathan Brooks. There

42:39

was another person as well. I

42:42

said earlier when I was looking up Nathan Brooks, I ended up

42:44

on the Nathan Brooks you just talked to. But

42:46

then there was like another Nathan Brooks. He

42:49

was a priest, he was being done for abuse. And

42:53

then I also came across a guy called

42:55

Nathan Brooks, he was a criminologist, he wrote loads

42:57

of stuff. He was pretty cool. But

43:00

he knows the psyche of the criminal mind. Exactly.

43:04

Interesting. Alright, well I guess if you're listening to

43:06

this and your name is Nathan Brooks. Stay

43:08

away from us. Stay away from us. There you go.

43:11

Alright, here listen, thank you so much

43:14

for listening to this podcast. Giving

43:16

this a shout, appreciate you for doing

43:18

so. Next episode will

43:20

be out next week. I will make

43:22

sure to schedule it to go live at the

43:24

appropriate time. Unlike I did last week. Or whenever

43:27

I did. I have no idea when

43:29

you're listening to this. But yes.

43:32

Alright, yeah. That's it. Awesome,

43:34

great. Bye. Thanks.