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remain work in a that spooky I'm Johnny and I

2:21

Tyler in This was a weekly podcast that has a

2:23

great idea for a horror movie. See, Hear me out.

2:26

Okay, okay. Haunted Fantasia

2:28

Party! Know that? get.

2:31

A circle of people are getting

2:34

dildo than other you know and

2:36

sexual object is so hot that

2:38

them meanwhile there's a presence. Ah

2:40

I do you think like just

2:42

like they accidentally create a summoning

2:45

circle at Nasa Fantasia? Par? Absolutely.

2:47

And they summon some sort of

2:49

evil entity? Yeah, totally yeah. Me:

2:51

it's like a force that they

2:54

can't control array or the person

2:56

doing the party. They're like leading

2:58

them through your and then add the

3:00

and they're like since you're all set.

3:02

Cool Barnes I'm gonna show you something

3:04

that I usually wouldn't bring out to

3:06

the party. Ah damn they like take

3:09

of silva cloth authors this like object

3:11

if you know how they're all opposite

3:13

such as seats at because it's France

3:15

and then next thing you know that

3:17

the cursed object and that's where the

3:19

story began. So it's like a monkey

3:21

paw situation. the hand from Talk To

3:23

Me since I graduated Exactly but it's

3:26

a monkey paw. That like you fuck

3:28

yourself. Yeah, it's not as we are

3:30

monkeys part because that would be inhumane.

3:32

Let me. very yeah, yeah, probably very

3:34

unsanitary. I'm into. I think Daphne's to

3:36

see stirring and perfectly good to see

3:38

his. Yeah, I don't know. I think

3:40

that's a good treatment saying. but I'd

3:43

not be surprised if like a haunted

3:45

dildo movie already exists because there is

3:47

like a killer Tom the Movie already.

3:49

you know there's a killer Bond movie.

3:51

I'm sure it exists, but I just

3:53

wanna do a haunted Fantasia party specifically.

3:55

Noom. it's gonna be part. Of my

3:57

greater haunted Ml lambs, I've. I'm

4:02

gonna kind of do it like Ryan Murphy style.

4:04

I like that the next installment to be the

4:06

Curse of Lose a Row a while yeah buddy

4:08

would had to be Lego. Billie. Joe

4:11

or something like that. Yeah yeah. Headquarters

4:13

on a little off of the original

4:15

but it be about like leggings that

4:17

likes used to your body and your

4:19

you into this like serif like a

4:21

human noise. See our the like shrink

4:24

and compress you as you're wearing it

4:26

and then next thing you know you

4:28

like asphyxiate in your leggings. Yeah yeah

4:30

that's it. And then we can do

4:32

like the candle what the Yankee candles

4:34

or your party like Campbell's Yeah yeah

4:37

exactly. And then it's like the sense

4:39

is toxic, it turns people. Into Zombies

4:41

Are you? Our things are called Sense Now

4:43

I don't even know what it's called Archer.

4:45

I once went to a Party Life Campbell

4:47

party overhauling the family member who hosted it

4:49

may or may not be listening and I

4:51

love you And I'm happy that she got

4:53

out of the party with that and I

4:55

believe and we held one A candle party

4:57

a thaw about. Anyway, I was in a

4:59

sleepy early. Two thousand yeah, what a time.

5:01

How are the candles? Never. Gonna

5:03

slow down. Was not sponsor in our

5:05

the fuck up a candle. Yeah really

5:07

the I mean that's a thing of

5:10

in Oh yeah although I I take

5:12

that back. I did work at a

5:14

Michael's once and Michael's Cells. Scented candles?

5:16

Yes And their shit like you can.

5:18

I know them when you smell the

5:20

cannibal. when you realize it, there's nothing.

5:22

Oh my God. You know what? If

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you want a great central candle experience

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or a scented candle experience either or

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you should check out front of the

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pod. Matthew Dean stewards can below us.

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I log math heating Stewart. He was

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like a super like encouraging for his

5:38

early on and like my process of

5:40

like putting my creative felt out there

5:42

on Instagram. He liked that uses platform

5:45

and research mean he did not have

5:47

too many though isn't so cool and

5:49

yet he started. I believe it's like

5:52

and be a scandal that mattered in

5:54

Stewart, not it is Sir Candle Yeah

5:56

I'm just trying to make it snappy

5:58

and email. Of the times.

6:01

But anyway, it's of the times and

6:03

out because it's a legitimate damn business.

6:05

And the candles are great. They're great.

6:07

The smells other viewed of fall okay.

6:09

Gray sweatpants is my favorite. Yeah, I

6:11

like cruising. Yeah, I think that's the

6:13

I think I'm thinking of the right

6:15

one. It's the one that has like

6:17

moss. Yeah, and it literally smells like

6:19

you're in the woods. Get on a

6:21

rainy day. Yeah, it's really nice. They're

6:23

very nice. Campbell's yeah, it's really cool.

6:25

Also, Plant Daddy. He. Got to me

6:28

it's not like you're in a plant store.

6:30

It's true though. Anyway, I if you're looking

6:32

for subset the candles and you want to

6:34

support Seuss queer small businesses yeah there's there's

6:36

one that you can support. three separate name's

6:39

Matthew Dean Stewart ensue we're he's do also

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not sponsor been awesome As he had to

6:43

clarify that is that people think if you

6:45

say something nice about somebody on the internet

6:47

you being paid to say no and lead

6:50

us like our friends Candles are friend from

6:52

the internet who have never met by you

6:54

know yeah Chris gonna have queers ss any

6:56

away. Hi everyone. A welcome to the

6:58

show. You might hear the pitter patter

7:00

of spider feet and the background. That

7:02

is because das me as out this

7:05

is an experimental says as yes it's

7:07

very hot today sir and ninety let

7:09

her not be in her carriers the

7:11

that she could we get to overheat

7:13

it but she's also getting into sick

7:15

somewhat. wondered how to enter. yeah I

7:17

don't know. I hear robed crank goals

7:19

and I'm getting concerned that think one

7:22

of the year but sit sit by

7:24

mother yeah mother got a have let

7:26

me review and submit. Them. Are

7:29

you can see this? but there's a sweet

7:31

little wiener dog? I'm yeah so everyone say

7:33

hi to douse me. Hope you're doing well

7:35

and yet the of anything you want to

7:38

talk about before we get into it cause

7:40

spits We have two episodes a drag race.

7:42

I know we've got spooky gay bullshit and

7:44

now we have the regular died your topic

7:46

So yeah anything I mean just on the

7:49

topic of das Neue A. it's her one

7:51

year anniversary with us. it was her daughter

7:53

day. Yesterday was a were married so it's

7:55

been a whole entire year. Mean

7:58

our law and here we are celebrating with

8:00

her freedom. Yes I learned as mean I'm

8:02

but other than that I'm ready to just

8:04

talk drag race because like you said we

8:07

had two episodes job on premier day we

8:09

we're not prepared for exactly so if you

8:11

don't care if you don't want spoilers for

8:14

all stars nine episodes one team I want

8:16

to skip had like five minutes because we

8:18

are going to be talking about it and

8:20

spoiling the whole thing from top to bottom

8:23

of this. Anyway on so do you wanna

8:25

get into it? Nuts do and beautiful Episode

8:27

One Money is the first on the docket.

8:30

And that was I think it

8:32

was a track when Save the

8:34

World Now episode of Like a

8:36

basically the girl group Challenge everybody

8:39

had averse to this song I

8:41

Can't. With. These tell ya it's

8:43

that's my low point yet it that is

8:45

my low point in I don't mean that

8:47

any kind of a shady way but like

8:49

I just mentally check out when these challenges

8:51

are happening when the data when the queens

8:53

are performing these like songs you know what

8:55

I'm Amy and like allied context it would

8:57

be different but on my television I just

8:59

as own how it worked in the original

9:01

format you got three queens at the end

9:03

of the season and each produce of murders

9:05

and it's a competition menacing an eye on

9:07

him when it's nine at the beginning of

9:09

a sees an arrow like our welcome Back

9:11

Every one episode. Finances Kids that are

9:14

just say oh I still think like

9:16

the talent show is the best thing

9:18

to do to just kind of be

9:20

reacquainted are just to be acquainted with

9:22

these drag artist. yeah, has it really

9:24

gives you a really nice glimpse into

9:26

who they are as an artist? Yeah.

9:28

but I think the saving until the

9:30

end of the season where they haven't

9:32

other instances so get ready for that

9:34

because Spoiler alert No one's going home

9:36

this season. Yeah, which is definitely the

9:39

highlight I think. Well I mean I

9:41

have a different highlight. But it is definitely

9:43

a highlight. Definitely is a highly because we've

9:45

been seeing as for a long time I

9:47

I don't mean we but I just feel

9:49

like the discourse around drag races like it

9:51

sucks especially with all stars when these queens

9:53

come back who have a fan base who

9:55

have established themselves and then they're gone. It

9:57

and episode like Derek Puck and Bearing On.

10:00

The item or more number ever more. and

10:02

so now that everybody just gets to be

10:04

there show everything they got and still there

10:06

still competitive edge to the challenges and to

10:08

the show in general. Yeah so I'm not

10:10

mad at it at all. but as why

10:12

is there any does nothing to be mad

10:14

about? we just get more of the queen's

10:16

we want to see exactly is so I

10:18

really enjoyed that. But like I was saying,

10:20

I also had a number of other things

10:22

that I really enjoyed from this episode. some

10:24

for the sake of brevity because we have

10:26

to to talk about I'm just gonna lists

10:28

the things that I liked. okay. Tiki Palmer

10:30

as a guest judge. She was really

10:32

funny and when Ripple asked her if

10:35

she doesn't do anything well and she's

10:37

a said now I'm an I love

10:39

her I love that sense of confidence.

10:41

Also see looked like a combo of

10:43

like a beat poet and it's all

10:45

the it's true and I love that

10:47

Cr so I loved that. Love Roxxxy

10:49

Andrews Point blank period to see and

10:51

so now are my favorite forces in

10:54

our ground. That is absolutely fair. I

10:56

feel like the heavens a smiling down

10:58

upon As as Roxy said we cannot.

11:00

Read the doll. I am happy

11:02

to be an attendee of the

11:04

dollar's exactly as she has been

11:06

putting a it's everything's the dolls,

11:08

the Dali eyes yes and the

11:10

knowledge of at all yet all

11:12

cabriolet or he is apartments it's

11:14

to Furthermore, van she's setting koger

11:16

all the latest with a code

11:18

hovered and gold bobby pins and

11:21

they were flying off the of

11:23

or queens. Read her entire rather

11:25

rambunctious entrance because remember, it's Vanessa

11:27

these imitate that is it as

11:29

the energizer. Bunny, she's flail and she's

11:31

jumping. She's just like a ball of

11:33

energy and these bobby pins are literally

11:35

flying in all directions. Yeah, and like

11:37

there was one time when they zoomed

11:39

out when they were doing the reading

11:41

challenge which is also great Mom but

11:43

but you could just see on the

11:46

floor scattered all around her. All of

11:48

these bobby pins rabbi all the shrapnel

11:50

contour, honey and sign on the annoying

11:52

say that. My absolute high point from

11:54

this episode was the fact that the

11:56

Queen's had to create a signature scent

11:58

and and create a look. I'm

12:00

going to me some a long way

12:02

and this was just something folded into

12:04

the look right that medium for as

12:06

challenging pass in right? we didn't see

12:08

any. is it means had a dropped

12:10

upon are now the runway presentations and

12:12

bitches. It was great. So good I

12:14

thoroughly enjoy that Are Also check Gopnik

12:16

wearing literal could or on the fucking

12:18

army moon a literal could her blood

12:20

literal high fashion on the runway was

12:22

she was wearing something bi lo of

12:24

right and not low was like the

12:26

fucking hot. You know that Brand wrote

12:28

the me that a blue. Sequencer that all

12:31

the fashion was wearing a month ago of

12:33

i remember by a year was a blue

12:35

sequin or a blue sparkly polo shirt so

12:37

that everyone was talking but on Instagram a

12:39

cossack six thousand dollars he something for. But

12:42

anyway aloe eat of you either like a

12:44

new fashion or whatever. But ah anyway mic

12:46

was wearing armor that to serve and and

12:48

of itself should also wearing like other designers

12:50

are. Now it's a school in a queen

12:53

can literally just dip into the archives and

12:55

do that like I know that's not the

12:57

point of drag queens are making the said

12:59

how to and boxes and hope the up

13:01

but it's also to school at Lake in

13:04

all stars to see queens be able to

13:06

you know pull up on those result. Jaegers

13:08

is designers like come on over and where

13:10

you want on media anyway so I enjoyed

13:12

that but I'm talking quick. We have another

13:15

episode to talk about do and this was

13:17

arguably v better episode of the To and

13:19

were eleven minutes into this episode. Okay so

13:21

let's fair, we gotta go on a local

13:23

by also episode two it was called the

13:26

Paint Ball him literally a ball episode where

13:28

the queen's had to create outfits and. Then

13:30

like to dumb yes die love the okay

13:32

high points low points do even have low

13:34

points. I mean I really don't have a

13:36

low point actually I do. That lip sync

13:38

song was not a oh my god yeah

13:40

like I mean it worked really well for

13:42

Gopnik as he had the beetlejuice hair and

13:44

as the young they like dance to at

13:46

the end of so like a kind of

13:48

like I kind of enjoyed it. Their blades

13:50

jump in the line by Harry Belafonte his

13:53

image. That's not like a great song to

13:55

just like throw in a general like plastic

13:57

tier. I had to do this and I

13:59

felt for your. Like girl this is not

14:01

your moment like it when the in a that

14:03

nobody can blame you. Guys

14:05

are was were like weird like i

14:07

don't know I love a weird lip

14:09

sync but it has to be the

14:11

right person doing and it has to

14:13

be a personal choice. This was something

14:15

that was has thrown out. These greens

14:17

didn't really work the ah but anyway

14:19

rooms that was my only low point.

14:21

My high point was got mix monk

14:23

looked at as a small meme whole

14:26

these fucking see as you have not

14:28

seen a go on her instagram and.

14:30

Go look it up out Mack My

14:32

gosh year Double T M I K

14:34

for not following them. Follow yeah please!

14:36

That was bandanas. That was the most

14:38

amazing thing I've ever fucking see out.

14:40

So the three categories he had to

14:43

do on the runway. First one was

14:45

a monochrome work like monochromatic. Oh was

14:47

the categories. Next one was drag imitates

14:49

art which is like actually based on

14:51

art see and all. Side note: plastic

14:54

Tr to the yeah you'll he could

14:56

Sama look Wittenberg the house to and

14:58

it was really good to. And finally

15:00

they had to do the painted. you know

15:02

that a pre some of but anyway make.

15:05

Nailed. The runway to the wall

15:07

nailed it. Yeah, see, made up for

15:09

whatever the fuck. Nino less dead. What

15:12

the hell was that Thomas Finland like

15:14

girl? And oh no, it was. All.

15:17

Sorts of wrong I don't know. You wonder,

15:19

do you think the Foundation will be reading

15:21

a clue? Know as afterwards to offer her

15:23

a stay at like the time assembling the

15:25

like you know cab and like you know

15:27

that are to see. I see that they

15:29

do at best. They might be like they

15:31

might send her a complimentary inflatable Bilbao. There

15:34

you go to the oh those Tom of

15:36

Finland Dell desert a dinner and yeah, they're

15:38

scary. I think they probably hurt somebody. That's

15:40

a gag gift. it has to be. I

15:42

don't know. Anyway, I

15:44

make gag anyway that make a buck gags.

15:46

So as I begin what honestly talking about

15:49

Mack I'm just kind of Ford and how

15:51

nothing else to say like dragged start, stops

15:53

and ends. Period.

15:55

Yeah I don't know got make is the

15:58

winner for me. My heart my brain once

16:00

got mack my heart wants center on I

16:02

would you know? Enough

16:04

about your bad. Oh

16:06

mounted on in my life I think

16:09

my heart could be right in my

16:11

brain could be right. who knows you

16:13

have your wounds Sam Yes Now personal

16:15

oh how could you forget section of

16:17

So Gratifying The Girls We could sit

16:20

and talk about the salt and ah

16:22

we really to return or we can

16:24

Butts and now okay well let us

16:26

know what your thoughts are And first

16:28

two episodes of Iraq Greater. All stars

16:31

Nine and yeah whoa. Wickets next week

16:33

and more. Talk about episode three. next

16:35

week. It won't be as long because

16:37

we won't have to upset stuff right?

16:39

Yes, it will. Actually I mean we

16:41

have time for him. Blink the spooky

16:43

bullshit segment. Oh no I don't think

16:45

we do. Oh shit I'm a huge

16:47

he talked request. I mean I can

16:49

talk real quick read as this is

16:51

simply breaking news that know if we

16:53

just have to talk about entering as

16:55

y'all know, Robert Pickton right around the

16:57

biggest piece of shit in Canada. the

16:59

pig dude. Yeah, farm killer. Yet he's

17:01

in. He's in critical condition right now because

17:03

sony I sit out of him in prison.

17:06

I love that inherently he was impaled in

17:08

the head with like a broomstick or something.

17:11

Yeah, ya mean animals by another inmate

17:13

book And that as of this point

17:15

is all we really know because nobody's

17:17

really talking about it. And for people

17:19

who don't know who Robert Pickton is,

17:21

just look it up. He is the

17:23

biggest piece of shit that has ever

17:26

commit of Canada. He is a i

17:28

don't even wanna say prolific him but

17:30

he. Is a infamous serial killer yard

17:32

a lot of people. I think he

17:34

went to jail for the death of

17:36

six people, but it's believe that he

17:38

murdered a lot more and more and

17:41

women iron sights and a lot of

17:43

indigenous women are closely associated with The

17:45

Highway of Tear. Yes, it is a

17:47

topic that we will have to cover

17:49

on the show at some point, but.

17:52

Damn. That's so nice to hear that

17:54

he got the city that of our

17:56

yeah, exactly, yeah, nobody is crying any

17:58

tears over this motherfucker, but. The right

18:00

now he is in the hospital, he

18:02

is in critical condition. Who knows, maybe

18:04

he'll die and again like I said,

18:06

this is breaking news of the news.

18:08

could change by the time you're listening

18:11

to that but also like I also

18:13

said but also monkey thing all know

18:15

all the so it's an apartment as

18:17

well. Yeah and also because yeah also

18:19

but because it happened behind prison walls,

18:21

there's just not not not a lot

18:23

of information being shared publicly about a

18:25

we don't know who this person was

18:27

that attacked him. Although I want to

18:29

give. Them a little bit of round of

18:32

applause. Although they they have a history of

18:34

violence. oh I was gonna say I like

18:36

and I mean years. You have an Amazon

18:38

wish list, but then again, least let me

18:40

know what they're in for. Idea that we

18:43

don't know anything about them, but they were

18:45

in the same jail cell as Robert Iger

18:47

Dan so they probably weren't a great person

18:49

either. Been any right now. This has just

18:51

been flooding the headlines here in Canada. I'm

18:54

not sure if it's made international news, but

18:56

it's definitely significant and I just wanted to

18:58

highlight that, so that's really as. If you

19:00

want to know more just follow that is

19:02

shared. Our I will feature Tyler by why

19:04

have you here though the have any other

19:07

serial killers that about the sipping none of

19:09

him recently Unfortunately no man. okay well habits,

19:11

seventy housekeeping or move see poop sees that

19:13

you need to let people know about before

19:15

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Or right? Well I'm taking us off

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21:20

that I think you and your first

21:22

monster. Okay, well get ready for a

21:24

little dose of reality them because today

21:27

I mean to be covering a case

21:29

The truth of that, anybody who was

21:31

ever thought of himself wow isn't a

21:34

weird other are always normal doors flanking

21:36

the sides of revolving door his own?

21:38

Yeah, a lot of fun fodder A

21:41

ah ha about you or your heads.

21:43

As going a mile a minute but I'd

21:45

say I mean to be talking about be

21:47

Coconut Grove. Disaster. Oh

21:50

are you aware of this one? Tyler I

21:52

do not know her and I feel like

21:54

I do not want to know her. Narrowing

21:56

them whenever the word disaster and that I'm

21:59

talking about tone. Safety door is in

22:01

you know it's not be a good

22:03

time. the I got an idea where

22:05

we're going. Yeah, get ready and think

22:07

happy thoughts. So of for this case

22:09

we're going to be going down south

22:11

of the Canadian border to the home

22:13

of our bodies. As and a from

22:15

more be going to matter to thirty

22:17

hours and I specifically. Boston.

22:20

Ah yeah yeah. Get lost in

22:22

Boston? Ah yes. Home or bang

22:24

And I you We arrive. At

22:27

home a pack India can have

22:29

a yeah yeah yeah yeah. care of

22:32

political my godmother from Quincy hours I

22:34

don't have as I do have a

22:36

soft spot for Boston. has it.

22:38

It feels very much like Halifax it

22:41

is. it's It's basically like the Nova

22:43

Scotia of America is kind of feel

22:45

that on the deep level of the

22:48

a little bit bigger. Not like

22:50

the same vibe. Yeah, exactly like

22:52

we got like. Beutner,

22:54

Into town and they got as I learned

22:56

bang and I you he is exactly. Also

22:58

be proud that Bang in the U is

23:00

like the topic comes up and you go

23:02

to look up for Boston his lingo of

23:05

the idea that yeah that's a seat on

23:07

any way for this case we're going to

23:09

be going to Boston back in the pre

23:11

ash and Alina days if you can even

23:13

imagine all the way back into the early

23:15

nineteen hundreds. And of course he will be

23:17

zooming in on a place called. The.

23:19

Coconut Grove, which was a pretty

23:22

big club in its day, was

23:24

about a story and a half

23:26

altogether. It was located at Us

23:28

seventeen Piedmont Street in Boston and

23:31

when I say located at Seventeen

23:33

Teeth monster you I truly mean

23:35

like it's banned. The block of

23:37

Piedmont and like nearby shown at

23:40

St. I'm in a building that

23:42

used to be a complex of

23:44

warehouses of so as big. Rather

23:46

significant. Yes, Yeah, So Coconut Grove

23:49

originally opened. Up in Nineteen Twenty

23:51

Seven which was smack dab in

23:53

the midst of prohibition an Mri

23:55

the As A I always forget

23:57

that that was even that know

23:59

right written quick circadian. But anyway

24:01

this sensibly means that as a

24:03

result of it being production and

24:05

consumption of and sale of alcohol

24:07

been completely legal arm the club

24:09

had operate as as speak easy

24:11

when you isn't illegal in private

24:13

establishment for folks to go and

24:15

drink while he does otherwise illegal

24:17

to do so right like he

24:19

gotta give a password at the

24:21

door that kind of shit. Exactly

24:24

very sexy and as a result

24:26

the club of course became a

24:28

huge spot for the local who's

24:30

who. Of Crime and kang

24:32

Why. Yeah, enemy

24:34

now of them. Much of a concern for

24:36

it's owners though. They were Guy's name, Shock

24:38

Renard and Mickey alp her to her to

24:41

do with. Really?

24:43

Deep connections in the less than legal

24:45

side of the local business world of

24:47

the catchment area. I mean, they just

24:50

kind of sound like side characters for

24:52

The Sopranos. Trying to be a totally

24:54

worth inside. Listens has underlined by the

24:56

fact that the club ended up changing

24:59

ownership four years after it's inception. So

25:01

open and nineteen Twenty Seven changed hands.

25:03

and Nineteen Thirty one or two a

25:05

bootlegger and Boston A in the mob

25:08

world named Charles Solomon I. and he

25:10

ran a club or ran the club.

25:12

For about two years until he was.

25:15

Gunned. Down had a hundred and club

25:17

in town. Okay, yeah, that tracks. About

25:20

or it's at this point. If I

25:22

were to clubs parent I'd be telling

25:24

them that they're wrong with some bad

25:26

influence Is for this or step at

25:28

a little. Ultimately the ownership of the

25:30

Coconut Grove working out become a little

25:33

bit more a street soda say and

25:35

a know mean had or oberg you

25:37

know what I mean. Straight laced yeah

25:39

exactly when it passed on to Solomon's

25:41

Lawyer or Dining Barney when Lion Ski

25:43

who oversaw the next era of. The

25:45

club's a life has prohibition would be listed at

25:47

the end of Ninety Thirty Three. And then the

25:49

booth. The booze can be just losing. Oh yeah,

25:51

you know the blues and the boys. The booze

25:53

in the boys bring the bulls. Know in the

25:55

boys, the boys in the both boys bring in

25:57

a boost. The boys are to drink the bulls

25:59

exactly. It was a boy and according

26:01

to John Christy the nose where it

26:04

find the booze in the boys his

26:06

over anyway. So mommy dearest aside Coconut

26:08

Grove at this point it's fake. You.

26:12

Always hear with Mommy Dearest Referee always

26:14

they do so via outside I'm always

26:16

wind up to one another. Thing you

26:18

gotta know about. The

26:20

i said the boy specifically usually have

26:22

been on gendered yet anyway and of

26:24

Nineteen thirty three, prohibition ends in the

26:27

U S and Coconut Grove transitions from

26:29

being a. Very illegal. Speak easy to

26:31

Martha mean stream establishment. In fact, it's

26:33

called a supper club a supper club.

26:35

So you go there for supper than

26:38

you just hang on have drinks. Yeah,

26:40

so the T is a supper club

26:42

is a thinly veiled designation. Really, it's

26:44

a cover up for it being in

26:46

a club. But the thing was, you

26:49

couldn't operate a nightclub in Boston at

26:51

the time. He literally nineteen thirties. I

26:53

mean, boots are just coming out, a

26:55

prohibition times are reared our hero. But

26:57

like, you could have a really long

26:59

liquid supper. exactly. How that's what

27:01

brought on the semantic sweatshops. But

27:04

they did said quite the vibe

27:06

which ultimately would make the Coconut

27:08

Grove a very popular spot to

27:10

be. So can this? The whole

27:12

place is set up with this

27:15

kind of tropical paradise style theme

27:17

that consists of lots of like

27:19

palms hair, leather wrap everywhere, rich

27:21

hand for mature ruff, roven moons,

27:23

blue satin draping the ceilings creating

27:26

a false guy. They really really

27:28

gone for a senior athlete. Sounds

27:30

like something or an establishment that the Golden

27:32

Girls would have gone to on a date

27:34

or very much so. but I mean that

27:36

would have been like the eighties this is

27:38

talk and will you know back in the

27:40

days when they would have been while sexier

27:42

back on the Golden Girls were hidden This.

27:45

Much and not the sexual teeth because women tend

27:47

to her were endless. The

27:50

point is the I had all that

27:52

going on. They also had their namesake

27:54

the coconut ah mostly fashioned into wall

27:57

sconces so they were ever pro then

27:59

cause you know sconces Darling on says

28:01

darling absolutely and the you know the

28:03

place offered a little bit for everyone

28:06

so to say hence popularity and mean

28:08

it held up to four hundred and

28:10

sixty people between the different spaces in

28:12

the club like a set of used

28:15

to be a warehouse so it or

28:17

a complex of warehouses so they had

28:19

like you know a dining room they

28:21

had between us like a restaurant built

28:23

and they had the club area we

28:26

you to go dance they had you

28:28

know different rooms for different purposes share

28:30

and. I. Should note though, like

28:32

even though they were growing and

28:34

becoming more straight laced even with

28:36

this shift toward the less legal

28:38

operation of the Coconut Grove Barney

28:41

Will Lansky, the new owners last

28:43

lawyer, still privately bragged about having

28:45

a litany of mob connections, so

28:47

it's not like things are operating

28:49

out and the light. So to

28:51

say that is absolutely fair. I

28:53

mean, he was a lawyer for

28:55

a monster who got gunned down

28:57

the a bootlegger and a mob

28:59

Dna. He just knew how to.

29:01

Play the public came a little

29:03

bit better than his predecessors anyway.

29:05

with all of the scenes over,

29:07

The Club would also sees some

29:09

significant expansion in these early years

29:11

of the Nineteen thirties, and ultimately

29:13

by the time to see Coconut

29:15

Grove became known as The Supper

29:17

Club and had gained more mainstream

29:19

patronage, Numerous renovations were done to

29:21

expand upon the already large space.

29:23

As a set of originally the

29:25

space had a few dining rooms

29:28

lounges, but in the fall of

29:30

Nineteen Forty Two. Barney Lansky

29:32

oversaw the space expanding and this

29:34

led to them opening up a

29:36

lounge in an adjacent building called

29:38

the Broadway. Allowed to very she,

29:41

she, she, she, she exactly and

29:43

as was connected to the rest

29:45

of things are, but it offered

29:47

some vibe outside of the nightclub

29:50

or supper club atmosphere and so

29:52

things are really looking up for

29:54

The Grove. Whoever just a few

29:56

weeks after the opening of the

29:59

Broadway Lounge, some that would happen

30:01

that would ultimately derail the seemingly

30:03

bright future set out for To

30:05

Business. Which brings us to the

30:08

real meat of this case is

30:10

a disaster. Yeah. So

30:12

to set the scene, picture it.

30:14

November Twenty eighth, Nineteen Forty Two.

30:16

As indicated the Coconut Grove had

30:19

just expanded. They open up the

30:21

Broadway Lounge me or weeks prior.

30:25

To say before prior in the

30:27

safe side rider nor are your

30:29

arm and for incidentally the record

30:31

is getting back up to speed

30:33

to get around. This time the

30:35

owner Barney Were Lansky was hospitalized

30:37

after experiencing a heart attack. Now

30:39

not to serve the heart. Attack

30:41

had anything to do with the

30:44

recent expansions at the Grove. Who.

30:46

The fuck knows, who knows sometimes

30:48

her Texas Ap and exactly. But

30:50

anyway, he was in layout. be

30:52

towel, that's France. Anyway, speaking of

30:55

the club, this day Saturday was

30:57

set to be a big one

30:59

at the Girls are than a

31:01

headline. He performance that night was

31:03

a drag performer named Arthur Blade.

31:05

I love their I. Their Arthur

31:07

Blake was a doll who did

31:09

celebrity impersonations and was known for

31:12

doing their show back and Province

31:14

Town in the sixties and seventies.

31:16

Class. Act Right notably to hit

31:18

the stage as Betty Davis and

31:20

Carmen Miranda Path The will also

31:22

come to be known for their

31:24

Eleanor Roosevelt some measure of oh

31:26

guess he just such stood There

31:28

are certain. A. Certain crowd look,

31:31

it was time. We and is

31:33

ultimately got Miss Arthur a gig

31:35

at the Fuck In White House

31:37

performing as like and special invite

31:40

for African Eleanor Roosevelt and Fdr

31:42

her husband, the fucking President. I

31:44

mean listen, if you're the First

31:46

Lady and you her that there

31:48

is a drag queen as impersonating

31:51

you, you do exactly the same

31:53

thing. I mean right right? He

31:55

saw that exactly So they had

31:57

a Queen at the White House.

32:00

According to reports you slade that's fiercely everyone

32:02

loved her. I don't know if they tipped

32:04

to the dollar, one would hope that they

32:07

were and him die and that it is

32:09

hop exactly months or a. This was not

32:11

a real dollar in the Td kind of

32:13

day and age. you know what I mean

32:15

year but you know medical or had you

32:17

know she want to put a dollar in

32:20

those to know she didn't know Eleanor Roosevelt

32:22

was looking at herself up near on the

32:24

net set my want to put a dollar

32:26

amount eighty right now right? Anyway, like I

32:28

said this was a big. Night at the

32:30

club the dogs were coming out for

32:33

the switch love to see support your

32:35

Queens now to reset. By the time

32:37

everything was said and done, it was

32:39

believed that about one thousand people were

32:41

attending the club that night which is

32:44

a seat and ignoring capacities. New really?

32:46

think about it considering as I mentioned,

32:48

the building did have a capacity of

32:50

four hundred and sixty people so year

32:52

Dublin That and some be a heartwarming

32:54

to think that that many people were

32:57

coming out to see the dolls. But

32:59

also fucking scary. When you consider we're

33:01

talking but a disaster yeah and how

33:03

you go see the dolls that many

33:05

people as he's going to be the

33:07

number of ooh yeah, that's that's not

33:09

how I want to see my drag

33:11

him Anyway, it's sad that there were

33:13

supposed to be more folks there that

33:16

night, but in a rather odd choice

33:18

of programming along with the big drag

33:20

show us. The Coconut Grove on that

33:22

particular night was also supposed to be

33:24

the spot for a celebration party that

33:26

have been planned in anticipation of Boston

33:28

College taking on the College of the

33:30

Holy Cross. Well see look to just

33:32

looking out for the straight six. I

33:34

know the missus kinda see the drag

33:37

show him and the misters can go.

33:39

Sports. Or whatever and whole is it

33:41

reminds me of Do member I think we

33:43

were together at this point I took issue

33:45

is Halifax Pop Explosion show isn't and it

33:47

was like. The. The band playing

33:49

was fucked up. did I take it to

33:51

the show you the and they were performing.

33:53

I think it's a dome is hello far

33:55

as a when when one is a big

33:57

night clubs. But anyway, this Halifax pop explosion.

34:00

Show was happening and like up a

34:02

hardcore punk show a happening until a

34:04

certain time than after than the club

34:06

oh was to start and be be

34:08

a while sucked up was playing the

34:10

club folks were coming in and I

34:12

mean these are Halifax club folk so

34:14

it's not like. Club. Kids the

34:16

ya ya ya know is this like

34:18

were in our Best Lisette how are

34:20

double callers popped? Because it's twenty eleven

34:22

through we got a hooker shall necklaces.

34:24

I see where we want to know

34:26

why these faggots or in our bar

34:28

exists The I remember that that showed

34:30

up pretty hostile yeah and been and

34:32

because the lead singer of Fucked Up

34:34

as like this guy who looks like

34:36

us yeah I had a shirt off

34:38

and was running through the crowd and

34:41

at that point all the pros and

34:43

their retinue were in the back of

34:45

the club. And it was. It was. He

34:47

had to like break up a fight or

34:49

oh yes he did. Yes, this was a

34:51

says when we gonna be that yeah more

34:54

or less because they had the drag show

34:56

have now I and then they had the

34:58

sports party that was supposed to be happening.

35:00

Budget. Turns out the game didn't end up

35:02

favorably for Boston College. so the celebration party

35:05

was ditched. The mayor was supposed to be

35:07

there that night on. He also pulled out.

35:09

Yeah, they just went to the streets and

35:11

decided to probably commit arson and destruction. God

35:13

has entropy. I like to do. When they're

35:16

sports, team loses the like to destroy

35:18

things when they went, and they really

35:20

like to destroy things when they will.

35:22

Now I'm young and that's another com

35:24

disaster, but regardless, success. Know sports, know

35:26

sports mods. Drag folks came out though,

35:28

if anything, to drink their sorrows away

35:30

and as I said, double the occupancy.

35:33

Know that the girls were darling and

35:35

the night rolled on in fact, out

35:37

about quarter past ten in the Melody

35:39

Lounge, which was like a kind of

35:41

insular he space in the complex. you

35:43

know, I'm kind of a piano bar.

35:45

Can I get it? A performer need?

35:47

Could he could tell was taking the

35:50

stage to perform for a packed room

35:52

of page for hims and this was

35:54

a pretty low lid five room out.

35:56

it's a piano lounge. We got a

35:59

good he play i'm singing on a

36:01

revolving stage you know date sitting at

36:03

tables around he get it I am.

36:06

Get in it I'm in their exact

36:08

a city like Julie Cruz and Twin

36:10

Peaks just guessing and seats as I

36:12

love that on are evolving stage what

36:15

more could you want? button The next

36:17

part of it is what I'm not

36:19

so into because it was said that

36:21

in the Melody Lounge as this lovely

36:24

Vi V show is tic nos near

36:26

one of the tables one of the

36:28

coconut sconces light bulbs. Wasn't screwed.

36:30

stances darling. it's always the sconces. but

36:32

this was said to be done by

36:34

a young man who was sitting with

36:37

a date nearby at table and wanted

36:39

a little bit of mutilating. so he

36:41

took it upon himself to become lighting

36:43

designer and undies a bob from it's

36:45

fixture gates. Now of course one doesn't

36:47

just get to choose when they can

36:49

kill the lights in a public spots.

36:51

How old are you know? The people

36:53

that had to do their jobs ultimately

36:55

noticed that it was darker than it

36:57

should have ban in an already dark

37:00

spot. Yeah, and since they had

37:02

to carry glassware and other such

37:04

things are hounds, they figured why

37:06

not err on the side? A

37:08

safety and story? The dang thing

37:10

back. And yeah, so ultimately a

37:12

buzzer. As sixteen year old named

37:14

Stanley Thomas to ski I was

37:16

asked to attend to be unscrewed

37:19

Ball which was still in Wisconsin.

37:21

long the decorative palm fronds now

37:23

Stanley approach to the scans and

37:25

without a flashlight the guide his

37:27

way. He reportedly got up on

37:29

a chair. And and lit a

37:31

match so that he could see

37:33

his way. Ah, returns the ball

37:35

to it's normal position. Latest restored

37:37

and. Things. Seem to be

37:39

co pathetic. He blows at the match,

37:41

further stomps it into the floor to

37:44

ensure that it wouldn't cause any small

37:46

during which sounds wilde. but it's a

37:48

nightclub in the nineteen forties. The you

37:50

know folks were thrown cigarettes out on

37:52

the floor from the time mulally they

37:54

were sets of drama. Also, people are

37:56

fucking garbage. But anyway, according to witnesses

37:58

who were at me bro. He

38:00

bought. A few moments after Stanley

38:02

walked away from the correct light

38:05

bulb, flames were observed flicker and

38:07

among the palm fronds that sounds

38:10

lived that Stanley was attending to.

38:12

S like. That and this the

38:14

core as you were describing. it's like oh

38:16

that sounds fun but now that it's all

38:18

catching fire. It's. Like this is

38:21

a fire fucking hazard. Ah so

38:23

staff who murdered and from this

38:25

point on the in there was

38:27

some onlookers actually took a the

38:30

kind of comedic side. The staff

38:32

was the scene attempting to the

38:34

flaming fronds be tempted to douse

38:36

them and water. Some even attempted

38:38

to spray them with seltzer water

38:41

arm and isn't working on. folks

38:43

were laughing at them to know

38:45

they weren't taking it too seriously.

38:47

But unfortunately despite the waterworks literally.

38:49

I.just too little too late

38:52

and. Not. Funny at

38:54

all because the flames were

38:56

quickly spreading even as the

38:58

frond and it's connected ceiling

39:00

panel were quickly removed from

39:02

above in hopes of standing

39:04

at the flames and keeping

39:06

everything contained. Again, he was

39:08

too late and the flames

39:10

are already starting to spread

39:12

into the ceiling. And I

39:14

mean this is rather dangerous

39:16

because as a previously mentioned,

39:18

the ceiling was a false

39:20

ceiling created with blue satin.

39:22

Favourite: You're right, Yeah now this

39:24

fabric had been fired treated which is

39:26

great but the thing or a fire

39:29

treatment is such a kind of gotta

39:31

keep up with it over time so

39:33

it's not just enough to apply once

39:35

inside it and forget it you can.

39:38

I gotta come back to it at

39:40

certain intervals and I'm I'm not an

39:42

expert. I'm not going to tell you

39:44

what does intervals should be, but let's

39:47

just say that hadn't been kept up

39:49

with as Sudan. And of course this

39:51

led to the lovely blue satin. Drop

39:53

Ceiling been a death trap waiting

39:55

to happen one hundred percent. Oh

39:58

my gosh, yeah, but unfortunate. The

40:00

before anybody was really able to

40:02

process things, the fire was spreading

40:04

among the ceiling of the pack

40:06

clowns. And I mean this fire

40:09

started like over in one corner

40:11

and the only access to the

40:13

lounge was over in the opposite.

40:15

Side. Of the room Right? So

40:18

as people noticed that the room

40:20

is literally raining embers and burning

40:22

sab rec. On. Them

40:24

nice he decide to fill you

40:26

with that one accent being the

40:29

only one in sight. Only problem

40:31

was in the early months of

40:33

people starting to flee staff weren't

40:35

really to up on what was

40:37

going on you or. I. Don't

40:40

know. Maybe people were just jerks,

40:42

but people are literally being stopped

40:44

from leaving as they hadn't paid

40:46

their taps. No fucking way Are

40:48

you kidding me? Not at all.

40:50

So of course this is happening.

40:52

The sky is raining fire and

40:55

suddenly in this small sounds which

40:57

again is only one part of

40:59

a greater complex of you know,

41:01

dining rooms and stuff like that

41:03

it's presented to utter and complete

41:05

chaos. The main lounges soon become

41:08

aware of what is happening below.

41:10

And the intensity of the situation

41:12

than only increases as more people

41:14

get folded into this. Ball

41:16

of flames rolling downhill, collecting more.

41:19

Flying. right? Legacy com or

41:21

been a higher higher the yeah

41:23

scared patrons flames began shooting up

41:25

the stairs with mixed with the

41:28

air in the scenery above and

41:30

moralists created a fireball that made

41:32

it's way through the adjoining lounges

41:34

of the Story and a half

41:36

supper club complex thought far as

41:38

well as the adjoining Broadway lounge

41:40

like the newly opened space that

41:42

they had which was connected to

41:45

the Rate or the the rest

41:47

of them via like a hallway

41:49

so it not. Immune from the fire

41:51

in no more than five minutes from

41:53

the inception of the Slain in the

41:55

Melody Lounge, the fire had more or

41:57

less taken over the entire night club.

42:00

This is wild and like. This

42:02

building at this point is quite

42:04

old to right and so it's

42:06

dry as hell no doubt. And

42:08

whatever is inside those walls is

42:11

probably just kindling for fire. And

42:13

it's covered in kindling because again

42:15

this had a lovely South Pacific

42:17

radio. Everything is why these everything

42:19

covered in return and fucking in

42:21

the just. At all the

42:23

flammable stuff. Maybe there is something to minimal

42:26

decor in a public space? I'd like to

42:28

think so. I'm

42:30

so folks of course are doing

42:32

the best of on the flames

42:34

at this point. Yeah, there's only

42:36

so much that they can do

42:38

again. This is a club that

42:40

is part Adam More than double

42:42

capacity crowd right? They are being

42:44

rain fire upon in some cases

42:46

and those who aren't being taken

42:48

by the he'd are dropping from

42:51

a noxious fumes that are overtaken.

42:53

The entire inside of the building because

42:55

as more and more things catch on

42:57

fire more and more fumes been created

42:59

and also I'm not talking about that

43:01

but also turns out that the buildings

43:03

air conditioning or refrigerant which is primarily

43:05

free on at the time he the

43:07

been replaced with answers fumes that are

43:09

overtaken the entire inside of the building

43:11

because as more and more things catch

43:13

on fire more and more for hims

43:15

have created and also I'm not talking

43:17

about that but also turns out that

43:20

the buildings air conditioning or refrigerant which

43:22

is primarily free. On at the time

43:24

he to been replaced with metal

43:26

poor I'd and a cost saving

43:28

measure which was us sales fuck

43:30

up because it created an abundance

43:32

of fumes and the methyl chloride

43:34

was extremely flammable. Poor thought far

43:36

so this cause an accelerated spread

43:38

of fire through the building where

43:40

a C was present and of

43:43

course now yeah got air and

43:45

the build an yeah so more

43:47

channels for flames to just travel

43:49

through, more ways for the sky

43:51

to be on fi or nightmare.

43:53

Now speaking a Fatal Fuck ups, The whole

43:55

situation was made exponentially worse by the fact

43:57

that not only were people being stopped. Leaving

44:00

because nobody wanted and leave it

44:02

up and their tabs Caesar's But

44:04

also numerous doors were blocked. numerous

44:06

windows were blocked off for the

44:08

sake of stopping patrons from skipping

44:10

out on their tabs. Now and

44:12

we're not talking like regular dig

44:15

your doors, were talking emergency exits.

44:17

all that kind of fun stuff

44:19

like or you're that worried like

44:21

the that many people skip it

44:23

on their tabs that you have

44:25

to lock them in a building

44:27

now. But we know that criminals

44:29

are. Running this business but not everyone's

44:31

a Kremlin all right, but you know

44:34

most to your friends probably are obliged

44:36

to. movie was his own Josie of

44:38

One Hundred show have yeah I'm yet

44:40

it was so fucked up and on

44:42

top of that as like the doors

44:44

and were you know operation we're not

44:47

up to code. ah. The. League

44:49

One Primary one. The people were getting

44:51

out through the melody loans with opened

44:53

up in words. Know.

44:55

Yeah. I'm an emergency exit door

44:58

that opens in that doesn't make any

45:00

fucking sad, it's absolutely fucked up and

45:02

it literally cause a what they believe

45:04

to be hundreds of lives. She's like

45:07

that door alone cost just as of

45:09

numerous lives and you know they found

45:11

the bodies later on and but I

45:13

won't get to that point just yet.

45:15

But ah anyway speaking of doors, we

45:18

haven't even gotten to one of the

45:20

most fucked up parts of this whole

45:22

story and a kind of hinted to

45:24

this of a bit earlier on. But

45:27

the main entrance to the

45:29

Coconut Grove was this lovely

45:31

revolving door. However,

45:35

There. Was only revolving door as

45:37

the main entrance to the

45:39

Coconut Grove which more or

45:41

less became an absolute death

45:43

trap as a crush of

45:45

people formed in the accent

45:47

as they desperately tried to

45:49

get themselves out of the

45:51

burning building. Him The thing

45:53

as it gets even worse

45:55

than that because outside of

45:57

the cross as folks were

46:00

able to get themselves to

46:02

slow the from the literal

46:04

wall of human body is

46:06

that we're creating a blockage

46:08

in the store. Yeah the

46:10

space that their bodies opened

46:12

up in the the damn

46:14

of body use allowed for

46:16

oxygen to enter on through

46:18

which literally created an incinerator

46:20

of sorts in the actual

46:22

revolving door jamb. I oh

46:24

my god has a crush

46:26

of people were so like

46:28

the fire just like blazed.

46:30

Up when people got out and

46:32

oxygen enter the situation. And

46:36

even fucking fathom that. Yeah,

46:38

so. I. Didn't think that

46:40

you can really get worse than the people

46:42

dying in a crush in a door trying

46:44

to get the like of high in the

46:46

another also survivors in there but like there

46:49

were just no survivors and by the end

46:51

of it yeah because as soon as people

46:53

get dislodged like fire came through and it

46:55

literally just became on of him. He.

46:57

I like this revolving door way

46:59

so it's just death traps everywhere.

47:01

exact including be one of the

47:03

only ways our of the building

47:05

exactly. And of course, it didn't

47:07

take much time for the outside

47:09

world to become aware of what

47:11

was happening at the Coconut Grove,

47:13

so fire crews were thankfully able

47:15

to get there quickly. In fact,

47:17

I was helped out by the

47:19

fact that some of them were

47:21

actually nearby, the disaster putting out

47:23

a domestic fire, a hot rescue

47:25

crews both formal, informed and informal.

47:27

Began descending upon the scene in an

47:30

effort to help out the victims. Also

47:32

people who got out with their lives

47:34

were got putting themselves back into the

47:36

building to get their loved ones and

47:39

anybody else that may be as it

47:41

like nobody's acting in an orderly manner

47:43

and the cdc have to consider all

47:45

the fucking panic that's happening amongst all

47:47

of this fucking failure in the building.

47:50

Yeah and I mean it's only gonna

47:52

get worse because as rescue efforts begins

47:54

to take place like and and around

47:56

the building. And like you know the fire

47:59

as being fought and. That kind assassin

48:01

who are new. Reality hits

48:03

when these people go from

48:06

a completely small inferno inside

48:08

to and the November air

48:10

outside. you know it's cold,

48:13

that. They. Go from hot to

48:15

cold and a number of them begin

48:17

dropping dead set on the exposure t

48:19

and is just like shot could basically.

48:22

ah, solar systems and her lungs and

48:24

all that kind of stuff. I'm like

48:26

you may scoff at that. But furthermore

48:28

it was sad that like some of

48:31

the bodies were so hot from being

48:33

inside the building that during rescue a

48:35

highly religious really like the bodies. The

48:37

skin to skin contact was burning the

48:39

hands of a rescuer. Oh my God.

48:42

Bodies were so hot internally. Like

48:44

I can't even fathom that. Like

48:46

scalding your hands on another human

48:48

being. But it's like an iron.

48:50

Yeah, but it's somebody his forearm

48:53

while. yeah, and I. Regardless,

48:55

Of their style, firefighting and rescue were quick

48:57

upon the scene and trying everything they could

48:59

now. They were ultimately able to fight the

49:02

fire and arena stop it from spreading and

49:04

folks were able to make their way out

49:06

of the club. If it did appear though,

49:08

that him more staff are able to get

49:10

out with their lives and patrons were because.

49:13

I mean they would just know the building

49:15

better than patron mind. They also knew what

49:17

exits were blocked and all that and that's

49:19

interesting. We wanted to. Surviving staff from the

49:22

night even included Mickey Alpert, who you may

49:24

remember as being. One the sounders of

49:26

the Speak Easy originally he was

49:28

actually the bandleader on the night.

49:31

Of the fucking Fire fire. I don't know

49:33

of years with the drag show or not.

49:35

I mean he doesn't He wasn't in the

49:38

Melody Lounge because I was a solo at

49:40

year via. the former owner was like one

49:42

of the bands that night. He made it

49:44

out with his life but anyway he made

49:46

it out through add the service areas of

49:49

the building. Bad word lena. Less of a

49:51

run by the public because my course does

49:53

were for the staff and yet off really

49:55

knew that they were there. I'm honestly there

49:58

are so many personal stories of survive. From

50:00

the fire and otherwise that have been shared

50:02

a week it probably be here for an

50:04

entire day talking about them. yeah it can

50:07

be. A podcast series is on. Some people

50:09

survived by hiding out in ice boxes in

50:11

the building others had it is just breathe

50:13

their way out while others as I said

50:16

went back and looking for loved ones are

50:18

just any survivors because again there were just

50:20

so many people tightly packed and with all

50:22

this happened so quick but again like just

50:24

given how many people over there and were

50:27

affected there are There are a lot of

50:29

stories to tell. Now by the

50:31

time at all was said and done

50:33

and the fires were put out and

50:36

folks were taken to the hospital, the

50:38

death toll did come in at four

50:40

hundred and ninety two people switches guys.

50:42

Harrowing to say the least. I mean,

50:44

this was the second largest building fire

50:46

in Us history as second to the

50:49

Iroquois Peter fire from nineteen of three

50:51

which claim six hundred and two lives.

50:53

More information on that. Check out Episode:

50:55

Two Hundred and Seventy Four: The Blue

50:57

Bus. Yes, But as for Coca Groves

50:59

dad, many. Died in the rush hours

51:02

or in the fired serve others died

51:04

in their seats are literally taken by

51:06

like the fire, quicker than they could

51:09

have even process what was happening to

51:11

them. Rakers are literal fireball say. And

51:14

others died in hospital. He was

51:17

actually said that half of the

51:19

people who were taking them for

51:21

medical help died shortly thereafter. A

51:23

fucking nightmare. Yeah, I'm ultimately personnel

51:25

from the Navy, Army, Coast Guard,

51:27

and National Guard had to come

51:29

in to. Boston to Assistant Rye with

51:31

the evacuation and removal of the injured

51:33

and our furthermore newspaper delivery trucks taxi

51:35

isn't just any other means we're used

51:38

to transport the injured because you know

51:40

course nobody was ready for this Given

51:42

the magnitude of the folks injured and

51:44

Dad how could you be apparent for

51:46

this? Yes I believe are also hundred

51:48

and sixty six injured which is less

51:51

than I thought to be funny enough

51:53

but still that's over half of the

51:55

people at Just Oh there's so much

51:57

about this that is upsetting and and

51:59

in. Fury Eight and while exactly

52:01

yeah and just as again heartbreaking even

52:04

consider because they they were having to

52:06

set up a temporary more Eggs like

52:08

in Assam distribution garage near the club

52:10

yeah deal to dad like features we're

52:13

not ready to deal with this and

52:15

of the followed from the Sastre was

52:17

notable. Ah just ten days before the

52:20

fire the Boston Fire Department it actually

52:22

inspected the Coconut Grove and deemed it

52:24

say oh no oh yeah they did

52:26

the yearly inspection. They're like it's been

52:29

here for improving. Grady, there's not

52:31

a you didn't give everything

52:33

the doors or windows. everything.

52:35

That's sad. We love that.

52:37

Yeah, yeah, so course this

52:39

was questionable as far as

52:41

far as questionable as fucked.

52:44

Leave. And and leave it in Riyadh

52:46

be a lot and it's questionable as

52:48

far as it really is vibe. So

52:50

then it probably like is this probably

52:52

this narrative like over the firefighters like

52:55

paid off to the same play with

52:57

cool absolutely cause a thing was this

52:59

called into question just how connected Barney

53:01

Will Lansky was an envoy were aware

53:04

he was super connected right? It also

53:06

came to light that it has Coconut

53:08

Grove. Hadn't had any of the necessary

53:10

liquor license or food permits for years

53:12

leading up to this fire. So else

53:15

just A with luster. Fox T.

53:17

also underage employees as illustrated by

53:19

the sixteen year olds who was

53:21

involved in the incident. you know

53:23

more. One who lit the match.

53:25

Good old Stanley Tom to ski

53:27

guy. he was the buzzer who

53:29

you know ma'am and on a

53:31

start of a whole thing's of

53:34

course he got called into an

53:36

inquiry about the fire to testify

53:38

forty years he had. The thing

53:40

is, he was later acquitted because

53:42

it was never determined whether. The

53:44

actual beginning the fire was caused

53:46

by the match or more something

53:49

stemming from the unscrewed like bald

53:51

and the surrounding non fire proved

53:53

to pour because yeah I mean

53:56

this is not vr the electrical

53:58

standards of even today. Or

54:00

or delay at odds of today's yeah.

54:02

You know it was easier to catch

54:04

things. A believes her with

54:07

a good all light bulbs just

54:09

below that unscrew those things as

54:11

fuck and I yeah do so.

54:13

Anyway, with being said, they couldn't

54:15

exactly pinpoint where the fire started

54:17

from. Weather was the mass of

54:19

people saw get stamped out or

54:21

the Bob. So all Smedley Stanley

54:24

gets acquitted. Mud. Speaking of the

54:26

inquiry, which was held about a

54:28

week after the fire. this would

54:30

lead to Barney, Will Lansky, the

54:32

owner, been convicted of nineteen counts

54:34

of manslaughter. Absolutely. Fair, honest little yeah,

54:36

and some people even think that it should

54:39

have been more i'm in the gutter really

54:41

nails one four hundred, ninety two counts of

54:43

manslaughter city, but they ended up choosing a

54:46

sampling of nineteen because they knew they had

54:48

the beds. Regardless, at a certain point, a

54:50

charge like that, the time spent is probably

54:52

not many different as the proper being served

54:55

consecutively. But and

54:57

currently with here's the T though

54:59

he was also super to nectar

55:01

so thorough this he got twelve

55:03

to fifteen years in prison and

55:05

nineteen forty three again responsible for

55:08

the deaths of four hundred ninety

55:10

two people. Maximum.

55:12

Of fifteen years sex thing is though

55:14

after four years he would receive a

55:16

pardon from mirror more restrained Tobin who

55:18

just so happened to be a close

55:21

personal friend of all the Lansky and

55:23

probably had his palm Greece really really

55:25

nicely. Likely so anyway he gets out

55:27

of there and if you actually remember

55:30

that's the same air who was supposed

55:32

to have been dining at the club

55:34

I'm amount of the fire that's right,

55:36

kind of. Only things have gone another

55:39

way but anyway he lets him out

55:41

early. Ah. And earth me are

55:43

also have had something to do

55:45

with the fact that Barney Will

55:47

Lansky was dying of cancer. So

55:49

and like a don't get to

55:51

hear about it because the t

55:53

is like nine weeks following his

55:55

release he did die but it

55:57

doesn't scrub the extreme. Last thing.

56:00

As a result of here's a responsibility

56:02

yeah and I mean he. they had

56:04

a big hand and what ultimately you

56:06

know led to this grand of a

56:08

loss of life world by and start

56:11

the fire but Beards He did a

56:13

great job of containing at a high

56:15

it has we were institution that he

56:17

created as it has. Who is setting

56:19

the policy with like that? Why was

56:21

the staff so concerned about people leaving

56:23

without paying their tab? Yeah Fucking inferno

56:26

right. Like that's been passed down from

56:28

the top right enemy. Yeah, like. He's

56:30

in the hospital with a heart attack

56:32

while all this is hop and anger

56:34

and I'm serve as a shock for

56:36

him when people started coming downstairs and

56:38

leave idea what's going on at the

56:40

hospital and they like oh yeah, your

56:42

club exploded yeah but a fireball spy

56:45

yeah like ultimately he was the one

56:47

who I hate to say but had

56:49

a seat held to fire over this.

56:51

So anyway as I mentioned, four hundred,

56:53

ninety two were dead, one hundred and

56:55

sixty six were injured and no matter

56:57

what vitriolic throw his way, it doesn't

56:59

bring. Them back now and then.

57:01

one silver one in the does

57:03

come from. All of this is

57:05

the fact that there were major

57:08

developments in burn and smoke inhalation

57:10

treatment that have you know advanced

57:12

quite a bit following these disasters

57:14

to given the abundance of folks

57:16

at the Massachusetts General Hospital and

57:18

the Boston City Hospital among others.

57:20

But I yeah I primarily those

57:22

two ip decide my lot of

57:24

people to try new treatments farm

57:26

or and one example I involved

57:28

like using Penicillin for preventing. Inflection

57:31

or infection. But. Also

57:33

increasing inflections arm but they also

57:35

tried like fluid resuscitation therapy for

57:37

folks dealing with smoking hot air

57:40

inhalation they made advances and burn

57:42

treatment a using like boric acid

57:44

ointment and petroleum jelly as well

57:47

as like wrapped bandages is now

57:49

versus the past treatment involving using

57:51

like panic acid i'm from there.

57:54

They were also able to do

57:56

psychological examinations into the effects of

57:58

grief and survivors. And to

58:00

the doctors who worked with a

58:02

number of the burned a doctor

58:04

charles want and daughter needing broder

58:06

actually created the London Broder Chart

58:08

Average a loss. Another the estimation

58:10

of the areas of burns charge

58:12

which isn't be used to contemporary

58:14

times. Okay, I mean that Listen,

58:16

I'll a advancements in the medical

58:18

care That's all great. But. The

58:21

the situation that led to is absolutely

58:23

horrible so it's hard to look at

58:25

that. We awesome. Good thing I know,

58:27

but I'd I'd at least have the

58:29

worst it because it is relevant to

58:31

the course. I'm not trying to be

58:33

like this, scrubs it away. But no,

58:35

I'm not saying that it's like to

58:38

one little silver lining to a very

58:40

very very very very dark. yeah, large,

58:42

all encompassing. Quite a lot of people

58:44

have benefited from what they've learned through

58:46

studying these Case yes, from this growth

58:48

loss of human life and has extremely.

58:50

Traumatizing of and sad and fucked

58:53

up numerous individuals and as I

58:55

now them unity and know. So

58:58

much complex itself was torn down

59:00

in Nineteen Forty Four following the

59:02

fire and the area was soon

59:04

we mapped thanks to urban renewal

59:06

initiatives On the site was used

59:08

as a parking lot until the

59:10

development of the Reviewer Hotel which

59:12

now covers like a bulk of

59:14

the buildings former footprint. On the

59:16

remaining area that wasn't under hotel

59:18

sat under a section of Chalmette

59:20

Street which would actually be renamed

59:23

Coconut Grove Wayne and Twenty Thirty

59:25

my top portion of the street.

59:27

Oh yes, And a plaque would

59:29

be pleased to commemorate the site

59:31

in Nineteen Thirty Three, but turns

59:33

out it was moved a bunch

59:35

of times due to local politics

59:37

and residents complaining and stuff like

59:39

that lane in a plant the

59:41

i guess they hate respect but

59:43

anyway, so they ended up having

59:45

moved around a whole bunch. But

59:47

a substantial morial was announced in

59:49

the November Twenty Twenty Three like

59:51

an eighteen by eleven foot memorial

59:54

which is gonna be finished by

59:56

September. Twenty Twenty Four. Oh, They're

59:58

going to be four hundred ninety two

1:00:00

granite blah each inscribed with the victim's

1:00:02

name and at which now I think

1:00:04

is setting. Absolutely Yeah, that's it. Like

1:00:06

I'd It's really important we when we

1:00:08

say this all the time, it's really

1:00:10

important for places to acknowledge these disasters

1:00:12

where they've happened. Yeah a easy and

1:00:14

in that say it can be as

1:00:16

simple as a plaque but like an

1:00:18

installation er statue is even better. Yeah

1:00:20

so that will be coming up and

1:00:22

of course we will be sharing the

1:00:24

news as it is finished because that

1:00:26

has not happened yet. But for now

1:00:29

that is the coconut. Grove Disaster aka

1:00:31

the reason that you have to have

1:00:33

regular day Cuellar door is flanking the

1:00:35

sides of revolving door is and see

1:00:37

like I never even thought of that

1:00:39

I got are just so that he

1:00:41

had an option now but there is

1:00:43

a very good reason as to why

1:00:45

those doors are there. No every time

1:00:47

I see them up into think of

1:00:49

this, that's the saying. It's like the

1:00:52

Mansfield Bar on a truck. Yeah, had

1:00:54

so yeah Other Unfortunately there are very

1:00:56

dark histories and reasons more. Some of

1:00:58

these. Some of. These

1:01:00

inventions. So anyway I saw my

1:01:02

I pad to send me. A

1:01:05

good little vibes because I phone close my

1:01:07

window and it just it opened up to

1:01:10

a photo of We Wouldn't Daffy Laying had

1:01:12

to have ah thank you World Bank of

1:01:14

the Forest are looking at photos of the

1:01:16

dogs when you think my sources said thank

1:01:19

you to the Boston Globe for police say

1:01:21

busboys Match caused fire published on November thirtieth

1:01:23

of Nineteen Forty Two think it of transcript

1:01:25

telegram for tragedy spreads from Match for him

1:01:28

to hundreds of homes published on member. Thirtieth

1:01:30

of Nineteen Forty to seek to

1:01:32

the Berkshire he go for Boston

1:01:34

death Toll Four Hundred and Seventy

1:01:36

Seven Published on November Thirtieth Or

1:01:39

Five Nineteen Forty Two. Stinky to

1:01:41

the reporting or the report concerning

1:01:43

the Coconut Grove Fire on November

1:01:45

Twenty ninth of Next, Forty Two

1:01:47

published by William Arthur Riley, the

1:01:49

Fire Commissioner for City of Boston

1:01:51

On November nineteenth of Nineteen Forty

1:01:53

Three Think A T V. Boston

1:01:56

Fire Historical Society for the sorry

1:01:58

Coconut Grove Fire Last updated. April

1:02:00

Twenty Fourth, A Twenty Twenty Four Think

1:02:02

the Britannica for The Coconut Grove Fire

1:02:04

and Tree published by Kieran So Gert

1:02:07

and a few other authors that aren't

1:02:09

listed. On November ninth of Twenty Twenty

1:02:11

Three, they did a prologue magazine for

1:02:13

of I'm Thirty Nine, number Three which

1:02:16

is there is and follow Twenty seventeen

1:02:18

for the Coconut Grove Revisited published by

1:02:20

Daniel Day Fleming, The Boston Public Library

1:02:22

for the Great Fires A Boston Coconut

1:02:25

Grove last updated on January ninth of

1:02:27

Twenty Twenty Four, It's think to the

1:02:29

University of Massachusetts. Law Library for

1:02:31

the Coconut Grove Fire Nineteen Forty

1:02:33

Two last updated on January nineteenth

1:02:35

of Twenty Twenty Three The that

1:02:37

Massachusetts Historical Society add a publication

1:02:39

the Be for the Coconut Grove

1:02:41

Fire published by Ricochet Shonda on

1:02:43

November twenty eighth or Twenty Twenty

1:02:45

to dig into the City of

1:02:47

Boston for I wrote cocoa. but

1:02:50

but it's different. Coconut Grove a

1:02:52

memorial I doubt they were right

1:02:54

Cocoa but grow for more. Allowed

1:02:56

to ski Reviewed: Yeah, see then.

1:02:58

People would have reason to complain.

1:03:00

Yeah to do a coat. Oban, I

1:03:02

love there's pastries as era. they're delicious.

1:03:04

May updated on Nov sixteen to Twenty

1:03:07

Twenty Three: the The Cbs News for

1:03:09

Coconut Grove Nightclub Fire. A chilling first

1:03:11

hand account published by Cbs Boston on

1:03:13

November Twenty ninth, A Twenty Seventeen. And

1:03:15

finally they did he boston.com for eighty

1:03:18

years later. For things you may not

1:03:20

know about the devastating Coconut Grove Fire

1:03:22

published by Madeline Eight Cans on November

1:03:24

Twenty eighth of Twenty Twenty Two. All

1:03:27

right, I'm sticking them. I still. Suffer

1:03:30

Severe. Yeah, yeah, that's fair. That

1:03:32

was quite a fucking All My

1:03:34

God it I was quite an

1:03:36

oh my God Yeah, I know.

1:03:38

Honestly, I just my brain just

1:03:40

flashed and I'm remembering the part

1:03:42

we're talking about how people were

1:03:44

burning themselves on other people him

1:03:46

and it says fucking. Disgusting.

1:03:49

Yeah, I know that shit like this is app and

1:03:51

can we move onto your fart monster now? Yeah, it's

1:03:54

not quite a fart model, but it's a lot better

1:03:56

than an. Is. Angel

1:03:58

less is now and. And we've

1:04:00

heard a lot of theories about why

1:04:03

I thought it was an ecoboost feel

1:04:05

worse than his books it was so

1:04:07

you could say is faster know as

1:04:09

to be more iconic. Murphy is

1:04:11

happening by dark. Library. Because

1:04:14

now you can compare from

1:04:16

Titan Service. Instantly and even to give

1:04:18

hasek handled from start to sinister and on

1:04:20

the the and it makes that the know

1:04:22

much more than just a less get started

1:04:24

at the end you that com family. And

1:04:26

Cia or it. a movie today. Let

1:04:31

me a life as it. Is

1:04:34

if he a sensor you have. A

1:04:37

frenzy signs along. With me these

1:04:39

facilities has are striving to

1:04:41

protect the sand and save

1:04:43

with he believes in every

1:04:45

single said. What

1:04:49

makes a life of good in this

1:04:51

as far as we think all of

1:04:53

the above and more the you'll have

1:04:55

to find out for yourself visit? Close

1:04:58

Card start of a higher note today.

1:05:00

I'm I'm stepping away from True Crime.

1:05:02

Talked about true crime a lot this

1:05:04

last. The last few episodes of Ring

1:05:06

on the High no clear. So today

1:05:08

I just wanted some kooky spooky find

1:05:10

them and I found it in today's

1:05:13

topic. The. Legend Of The Harry Hands

1:05:15

of Dark More ah years. I've never heard

1:05:17

of this but I already like the sound

1:05:19

of or I. you know if you don't

1:05:22

touch yourself go they won't turn Hear that

1:05:24

what they say All us will help us

1:05:26

from from attachment to mama. So

1:05:29

as I said, this is a

1:05:31

legend. A well known urban legend

1:05:33

that comes from Devon in England.

1:05:35

Okay, think you tell them. no

1:05:38

devotees. A place in England? But.

1:05:41

They're also a person in England. Further, aren't Evans

1:05:43

in Devon? Inertia. They

1:05:45

love that about themselves that month. That's how

1:05:47

you know you can do the podcast too

1:05:49

much everyone. Zola Summer. Split

1:05:52

away in the town of Devon in

1:05:54

the town of Devin, there's this legend

1:05:57

of these ghostly harry hands and honestly,

1:05:59

just one the many spooky stories that

1:06:01

Devon has to offer. It's it's. pretty.

1:06:04

Pretty. Supernatural place apparently our own

1:06:06

their been. Some legend suggests that

1:06:09

it is, but this is a

1:06:11

legend that has it been preserved

1:06:13

for more than a century. Him

1:06:15

and as far as we can

1:06:18

tell, the legend of the Harry

1:06:20

Hands of Dark More first entered

1:06:22

the public consciousness on Friday October

1:06:25

fourteenth, Nineteen Twenty One when the

1:06:27

Daily Mail published the following Arctic

1:06:29

com Care who is called the

1:06:31

Unseen Hands by T Deferred and

1:06:34

the article. Reads: The stretch of

1:06:36

road is quite an ordinary one.

1:06:38

It's wide, straight, open and bordered

1:06:40

on either side by a broad

1:06:42

strip of ruff grass. It's slopes

1:06:44

gently to a book went which

1:06:46

a crosses by a narrow humped

1:06:48

bridge beyond which lies the village

1:06:50

of Mid More. A Winter it

1:06:52

is a lonely spot, but in

1:06:54

the summer and many vehicles pass

1:06:56

daily. One day in June last,

1:06:58

a doctor was riding down the

1:07:00

slope on his motor bicycle in

1:07:02

the sidecar of which he had

1:07:04

passengers. It is two children quite

1:07:07

suddenly so the children say he

1:07:09

called out there is something wrong

1:07:11

jump and the next instant the

1:07:13

machine swerved, the whole engine broke

1:07:15

away from it's fastenings and the

1:07:17

doctor flung headlong into the road

1:07:19

and was killed instantly. Girl refunding

1:07:21

your kin for new your kid

1:07:24

move the children so shaken for

1:07:26

happily unhurt us with and am

1:07:28

I reading the article by the

1:07:30

way as my where it says

1:07:32

like was unclear by the occurs

1:07:34

because the probably on her. Ah

1:07:36

so the article continues some weeks

1:07:38

passed, then one day a motor

1:07:40

coach was traveling up the slope

1:07:43

when quite suddenly and for no

1:07:45

apparent reason it's swerved mounted the

1:07:47

grassy slope to the right of

1:07:49

the road and though it did

1:07:51

not upset, lay over at such

1:07:53

an angle that several passengers were

1:07:55

thrown out. One a woman being

1:07:57

very seriously injured him. This accident.

1:08:00

Occurred at the same spot as the

1:08:02

former. One mere coincidence, of course. Yet

1:08:04

listen now to the sequel Friday August.

1:08:06

Twenty Six was a dole, rather foggy

1:08:08

day, and in the morning, Captain M,

1:08:10

a young army officer who had been

1:08:12

staying at my house, left on his

1:08:14

motor bicycle to visit friends at some

1:08:17

distance from her. An hour later, I

1:08:19

was in the garden when I saw

1:08:21

Captain Em coming up the drive. He

1:08:23

had blood on his face and his

1:08:25

bicycle was badly battered, had a bit

1:08:27

of a smash and I thought I'd

1:08:29

better comeback. Was his brief explanation? K

1:08:32

and I took him in and saw

1:08:34

to his cuts and bruises with for

1:08:36

fortunately not serious. He was happily on

1:08:39

her to use happily unasur. So how

1:08:41

did this happen I asked and he

1:08:43

looked at me rather oddly. I hit

1:08:45

the turf at the edge of the

1:08:48

road. He answered. What? In the

1:08:50

fog I asked know there was not much

1:08:52

fog I could see. All right. I

1:08:54

suppose that I looked puzzled for I

1:08:56

knew that he was an expert cyclist

1:08:58

and had written his machine some thousands

1:09:00

of miles. It was not my fault

1:09:02

he said at last, believe it or

1:09:04

not, something drove me off the road.

1:09:06

A pair of hands covered minds. I

1:09:08

felt them as plainly as I ever

1:09:11

felt anything in my life. Large.

1:09:13

Muscular Harry Hands Daddy bought some

1:09:15

all I will work but they

1:09:17

were too strong for me. They

1:09:19

forced the machine into the turf

1:09:21

at the edge of the road

1:09:24

and I knew no more till

1:09:26

I came to myself lying a

1:09:28

dozen feet away on my face

1:09:30

on the turf. Know Daddy are

1:09:32

you know was So Gifford and

1:09:34

the article by saying I have

1:09:36

since visit the spot which is

1:09:38

the same at which the two

1:09:41

previous accidents occurred. I make. No

1:09:43

comment and will only add that for

1:09:45

obvious reasons I have authored the name

1:09:47

of the Village you. Know

1:09:50

although gifford use the pseudonym Mid

1:09:52

More. Within days it was learned

1:09:55

that the place in question was

1:09:57

actually Dark More in Devon Sure.

1:09:59

And the road was the Post

1:10:01

Bridge Road which is known today

1:10:03

as Highway Be Three, Two One

1:10:06

Two. Now. Dot More

1:10:08

is a vast area of more lands

1:10:10

located in the highlands. The roads at

1:10:12

that pass through.more wind along rivers, bogs

1:10:15

and then there's lots of relics of

1:10:17

the past in the area as well.

1:10:19

There are hot circles they're standing stones

1:10:22

and that are ancient stone crosses. movie

1:10:24

in this new case of their like

1:10:26

that. A lot of like history here

1:10:29

right? Oh really Now of course the

1:10:31

ancient history of the area stoke what

1:10:33

I'm so I got my oh yeah

1:10:36

others history because they. Didn't see no

1:10:38

wipe out all the history when they

1:10:40

came over. Install the lan. You're right,

1:10:42

they gotta observe. Their oligarchy over here

1:10:44

are either meme, interrupt you know, but

1:10:46

it's a fair point in early hours

1:10:48

of a nice of they have history

1:10:50

gather culture wasn't ripped out of their

1:10:52

fucking have right as other ancient history

1:10:54

doesn't exist in north now. it's just

1:10:56

that people white people get him over

1:10:58

and they destroyed all we just you

1:11:00

know when it on fire burn. I'm

1:11:02

proud that reservists a cold in order

1:11:05

to pay arts Lunar. yeah I know.

1:11:07

Anyway, The point being, this ancient

1:11:09

history of the area does stoke

1:11:11

the fire of the Legend of

1:11:13

The Harry Hands And this legend

1:11:15

once it was published in the

1:11:17

Daily Mail, caught on bass work

1:11:19

three days after gifford article. There

1:11:21

was a second article that was

1:11:23

published by an unknown author on

1:11:25

Monday, October seventeenth, a Night in

1:11:27

Twenty One as a response to

1:11:29

the first, and this article begins

1:11:31

with a summer ization of the

1:11:33

initial article, but then it elaborates

1:11:35

on who these ghost hand. Victims

1:11:38

were and my dating quote

1:11:40

the doctor in the first

1:11:42

instance was doctor He H

1:11:44

L B medical officer of

1:11:46

Prince Town Prison for his

1:11:48

hands similarly turned against his

1:11:50

will buy the large unseen

1:11:52

hands which so nearly killed

1:11:54

the young officer. It

1:11:56

is impossible to answer that question. But the

1:11:58

fact that he shouted. His two children

1:12:01

passengers in the Sidecar immediately before

1:12:03

the accident telling them to jump

1:12:05

as there was something wrong shows

1:12:08

that he was aware of the

1:12:10

danger Him Yesterday the author of

1:12:12

the article who is interested in

1:12:15

psychic matters told a Daily Mail

1:12:17

reporters that to explanations of the

1:12:19

matter where the interference of an

1:12:22

elemental are a natural spirit or

1:12:24

of the earth bound spirit of

1:12:26

some such person as a murder

1:12:29

him quote. As far as I

1:12:31

know however, there is no record of

1:12:33

a murder having occurred near the spot

1:12:35

he said. I do not think that

1:12:37

the young officer to whom the last

1:12:40

accent occurred new of the fact that

1:12:42

to similar accents had taken place on

1:12:44

the same spot. The accidents happened within

1:12:46

a few hundred yards of each other

1:12:48

I should say and club didn't have

1:12:50

Ls all that that second article had

1:12:52

to say and also I'm not sure

1:12:55

who the. The author.

1:12:57

Of the article is referring to my

1:12:59

dear using air quotes exactly I using

1:13:01

air quotes because I'm is the person

1:13:04

who wrote this article or are they

1:13:06

talking about Gifford? I don't really know.

1:13:08

The point is yeah of the there

1:13:10

was L aberrations and we got to

1:13:12

learn who the the doctor was that

1:13:14

died in the very first accident him

1:13:17

Now death announcements from March of Nineteen

1:13:19

Twenty One do confirm that this Dr.

1:13:21

Dr. H L B or Doctor Earnest

1:13:23

Hasler hell be if he had nasty

1:13:25

which I am with. You are Things

1:13:28

You did die in a motorcycle

1:13:30

accident like the article suggests and

1:13:32

it's death announcement also alleged that

1:13:34

his daughters were riding with him

1:13:36

at the time of the crash.

1:13:38

Stuff that seems to check out

1:13:41

Hover a contemporary writer named Blake

1:13:43

Smith whose research The Harry has

1:13:45

extensively claims that no public record

1:13:47

suggests that Doctor Earnest Haussler, hell

1:13:49

be and his wife ever had

1:13:51

any kids. So little bit of

1:13:53

a question mark for around there

1:13:56

so we can. Even get a vibe check

1:13:58

on him to see if they were happily on. Heard

1:14:00

are not exactly. And of course,

1:14:02

just because there are no records

1:14:04

of these children available publicly, that

1:14:06

doesn't necessarily mean that they didn't

1:14:08

exist. Baby Secret babies? Hello. Yeah,

1:14:10

as part of August And I

1:14:13

know, I know. Yeah, The thing

1:14:15

is, though, it definitely does cast

1:14:17

the first shadow of a doubt

1:14:19

on the facts that make up

1:14:21

the legend of the Harry Hands

1:14:23

of Dark More? Yeah. But either

1:14:25

way, this was only the beginning

1:14:27

of this legend as these articles

1:14:29

made. The rounds people began to

1:14:32

come up with their own theories

1:14:34

about these unseen have ah now

1:14:36

by and large spiritualists foods hived

1:14:39

and on the matter. All seems

1:14:41

to agree with the statement that

1:14:43

is invisible hands were of likely

1:14:46

the manifestation of an elemental spirit

1:14:48

of yeah and this was confirmed

1:14:50

or at least this was doubled

1:14:52

down on in to spiritualists publications.

1:14:55

The first one was The Truth

1:14:57

which was published in Nineteen Twenty

1:14:59

One. And then the second one was

1:15:02

of the light which probably didn't t twenty

1:15:04

two. Oh my God it is that. The

1:15:06

truth and the line. I know I can't

1:15:08

argue with the truth and the lie or

1:15:10

Martin one time sometimes from seen, take and

1:15:12

how does the same time have. It's top

1:15:15

yards, the anger, it's the truth and the

1:15:17

live right now. Anyway, the Truth and a

1:15:19

light. They both agree that this is probably

1:15:21

the work of an elemental spirit and we

1:15:23

talked about elemental spirits before on this show.

1:15:25

Yeah, they are said to be magical supernatural

1:15:27

entities that exist in nature and getting be.

1:15:30

Like into things like theories like bronze

1:15:32

gnomes and know just to name a

1:15:34

few out be be we love them

1:15:36

mind we did Miles much as you

1:15:38

can love an elemental while some people

1:15:40

do. I'm reading an article has to

1:15:43

find oh didn't simply so of them

1:15:45

into I don't know but a woman

1:15:47

was like really good friends elaborate on

1:15:49

apparently dislike com and gog. kind of

1:15:51

like do a bit of a teleportation

1:15:53

moment. many men would move not around

1:15:55

you. I am no leper cause yeah

1:15:58

I'll have to find that are. The

1:16:00

goal. But I'm sure somebody has fallen

1:16:02

deeply in love with an Elemental. Oh,

1:16:04

I'm sure if somebody married a house,

1:16:07

somebody is definitely fucking element. I have

1:16:09

one with like the Out And if

1:16:11

Nine here's your opportunity, I mean, you

1:16:14

know to say, find a nice and

1:16:16

fella. That's what Allah Elemental A They

1:16:18

can either be benevolent or malevolent in

1:16:21

nature, but in the case of The

1:16:23

Harry Hands, they certainly seem to be

1:16:25

of a violent ilk as they were

1:16:28

accused of driving people off roads. And

1:16:30

also causing some fatal accident Down

1:16:32

Now fast forwarding just a few

1:16:35

days: October Twenty Fourth, Nineteen, Twenty

1:16:37

One up. This is about one

1:16:39

week after the second article was

1:16:42

published. A local Dark More writer

1:16:44

named Beatrice Chase wrote into the

1:16:46

Western Morning News to suggest that

1:16:49

these three motor vehicle accidents were

1:16:51

caused by magnetic rock so kind

1:16:53

of arts I did learn about

1:16:56

mode Stones recently in those are

1:16:58

like super magnetic cross. Your mignon

1:17:00

of rock stuff we do exist announces I

1:17:02

was telling you this long an episode of

1:17:05

See As to the Snacks on the Secret

1:17:07

Society where I talked about the legend of

1:17:09

Lucy Lightfoot Button. If you ever want to

1:17:11

look up the Muslim mental image in the

1:17:14

world, look upload. Stones L A D as

1:17:16

to he. oh and youth are like rocks

1:17:18

and usually people showed their magnetic efficacy by

1:17:20

like having them. Covered. In

1:17:23

Nails? Yeah, I was like a stone covered

1:17:25

in males are now it's a hundred to

1:17:27

and a half and did it on. The

1:17:29

firm's out there anywhere. But anyway. Magnetic. Yeah,

1:17:32

Blockers Chase. He kind of things that maybe

1:17:34

magnetic rocks had something to do with

1:17:36

it. So she wrote the following letter. Sir.

1:17:39

In reference to the various press reports

1:17:41

on this subject, I may mention that

1:17:44

I happened to see one of these

1:17:46

extraordinary swerved in the same place at

1:17:48

three thirty pm on September fifteenth. We

1:17:50

were motoring up from two bridges and

1:17:53

saw a motor coach full of passengers

1:17:55

ahead of us are on the road

1:17:57

coming towards us. While several hundred yards

1:18:00

distant the code suddenly swerved into the

1:18:02

roadside almost at right angles. It seemed

1:18:04

for a few seconds impossible either that

1:18:06

it should not turn over or that

1:18:09

the passengers did not get thrown out.

1:18:11

It was a long straight piece of

1:18:13

road with no curves and know or

1:18:16

the traffic and the coach was being

1:18:18

slowly and carefully driven. When. We

1:18:20

drove up to the place. We

1:18:22

examined the tire marks on the

1:18:24

roads which are almost right angular.

1:18:26

I've never seen such a thing

1:18:28

he may. I suggest that these

1:18:31

things may be due to magnetic

1:18:33

rocks of which there are many

1:18:35

on dark more. This extraordinary season

1:18:37

may have increased or altered make

1:18:39

net occurrence. It would appear to

1:18:41

have some connection with metal and

1:18:43

the steering wheel or handlebars would

1:18:45

act as conductors and an electric

1:18:47

shock bite account for the strain

1:18:49

sensations described. By the young officer.

1:18:51

In the interest of the public,

1:18:53

it would be nice if someone

1:18:56

with the requisite instruments could test

1:18:58

back row who love that he

1:19:00

would just be nice. I don't

1:19:02

know that be nice guy like

1:19:04

it's just a video. Very cool

1:19:06

of you know, like how so

1:19:08

the rest was. it's not As

1:19:10

or Gap passive aggressive my mother

1:19:12

I know right off. The thing

1:19:14

is, although Beatrice wrote this article

1:19:16

with the best of intentions, it

1:19:18

was pretty much dismissed right? Away Hippie

1:19:20

broil. I'm not doing the work they it's

1:19:22

yes. And also the idea that there would

1:19:25

be a none of this magnetic rock told

1:19:27

literally throw vehicles just didn't seem like super

1:19:29

plausible. That party I probably, I don't know

1:19:31

another are not Iraq scientists. I don't know

1:19:34

anything about magnetic rocks but you probably need

1:19:36

a shit ton of it. I'm just throw

1:19:38

a vehicle with like human beings on it.

1:19:41

you know what I mean would think. yeah

1:19:43

there's also like those places like Magnetic Hill

1:19:45

but it's all very like. Commons.

1:19:48

And tenacity or elsewhere. And that's a

1:19:50

New Brunswick They me that? Yeah, they

1:19:52

just need something. it's no funds. were

1:19:54

exotic who is like nothing else him.

1:19:56

So there was this theory thrown out

1:19:58

there by Beatrice. But like. That it

1:20:00

was shot down pretty quickly and

1:20:02

also I guess it's there's a

1:20:04

lot of granite in dark. Moreover,

1:20:06

I don't know how many. How

1:20:08

much magnetic rocket really? Ah, if

1:20:10

only I'd become a geologist. Yeah,

1:20:12

the thing is. kudos to her

1:20:14

for trying to come up with

1:20:16

some sort of rational explanation. Yeah,

1:20:18

However, a far more rational explanation

1:20:20

came forward after this, which was

1:20:22

that these motor vehicle accidents where

1:20:24

it simply the result of a

1:20:26

poorly constructed road. I mean, My

1:20:29

would. Candid about him. As someone who learned

1:20:32

to drive in than the maritimes, well that's

1:20:34

it. I'm used to some fucked up road.

1:20:36

As if roads are not well maintained, are

1:20:38

not well built, they can be a literal

1:20:40

death traps. Like there's a highway back home

1:20:43

like in my home town that has not

1:20:45

been paved in a really long time. Yeah,

1:20:47

it's literally taking people's lives in Nasa. Not

1:20:49

even an exaggeration like a teenager died on

1:20:52

that road like hydro. planning on our quiet

1:20:54

down the highway can hear you? I mean

1:20:56

yeah, maybe I say I do for can

1:20:58

get your ass may be. Anywhere. But

1:21:00

anyway, yeah that some people think that

1:21:02

these accents are just the results of

1:21:04

the a bad road. House and local

1:21:07

seem to agree that most Bridge Road

1:21:09

was not a terribly well kept road.

1:21:11

it wasn't be road meaning that it

1:21:13

wasn't a main road and so it

1:21:15

didn't receive as much attention as and

1:21:17

Erode would. And who not be Squires

1:21:19

I guess the in the Uk they

1:21:21

have like a roads which are like.

1:21:24

That did. Rouse the highway route yards on

1:21:26

roads that everybody drives to the get

1:21:28

well taken care of. Then you get

1:21:30

the be rough lifts when earn less

1:21:32

maintained by a little not as well

1:21:34

traveled baby. I get that yeah I

1:21:37

I. I. Am I I

1:21:39

see you I hear you my fellow

1:21:41

be road new Mmo rice on a

1:21:43

C road myself a be millions of

1:21:46

comedy wrote a Hoosier all roads lead

1:21:48

to a my side of us on

1:21:50

top of the road maybe not being

1:21:52

in the best condition. Weather conditions in

1:21:55

the highlands can sometimes be pretty precarious

1:21:57

as night as far can make it.

1:22:00

Impossible to see mean anybody who's

1:22:02

driven in any kind of a

1:22:04

high altitude knows that, especially at

1:22:06

night time, it can get pre

1:22:08

a d foggy pretty quick out

1:22:10

of nowhere. So pair low visibility

1:22:12

with a slanted, winding road and

1:22:15

you could easily spell disaster Poor,

1:22:17

poor road conditions. I could also

1:22:19

explain why these three accidents happened

1:22:21

close to each other along the

1:22:23

same stretch of road. Her: if

1:22:25

one stretch of road is bad,

1:22:27

it's going cause multiple accidents. Furthermore,

1:22:30

Of this is also the early Nineteen

1:22:32

twenties when the story breaks and people

1:22:34

are still really getting used to operating

1:22:36

motor vehicle how right? right? Like I'm

1:22:38

sure people are just given cars do

1:22:40

their babies as the isn't a wine.

1:22:42

I see what they could do yards

1:22:44

as tastes just as an experiment to

1:22:46

see what'll happen yell at all T

1:22:48

I mean recently on Spooky Sachs I

1:22:50

did cover the death of Isidore Duncan.

1:22:53

When we're talking about the all the

1:22:55

time you days a car or is

1:22:57

it was now. but it is. No,

1:22:59

It certainly was. Not Crt and

1:23:01

comportment. And yeah, exactly So accents

1:23:03

are basically happening on a daily

1:23:05

basis because people were just can't

1:23:08

get used to the open road

1:23:10

everywhere. Light up that paralyse the

1:23:12

and now. Either way, it was

1:23:15

alleged that after these articles came

1:23:17

out, a chamber in the road

1:23:19

was discovered, which is basically the

1:23:21

road kind of curves. ah, slanted

1:23:24

towards the edges and it kind

1:23:26

of inclined towards the middle. So

1:23:28

when they discovered this. Is a

1:23:31

corrected it and apparently after that

1:23:33

there were no more significant accidents

1:23:35

on the road. Now.

1:23:37

After this resolve, the press pretty

1:23:40

much drop the story of the

1:23:42

Unseen Hands. There was not much

1:23:44

more left to be sad, sure.

1:23:46

However, The. Public was not

1:23:48

so willing to wave goodbye to

1:23:51

the Harry Hands legend just yet

1:23:53

of car and it's would live

1:23:55

on and over time it would

1:23:58

transform. Now come the me

1:24:00

to the late twentieth century the

1:24:02

harry hands of Dark More saw

1:24:04

it's renaissance thanks to the works

1:24:06

of to folklore is Ruth East

1:24:08

St Leger Gordon. Moon

1:24:11

and Man folklore romance novels with

1:24:13

a name like that I know

1:24:15

dry one of the to maybe

1:24:17

both the I mean honestly him

1:24:19

I'd read those romance novel I

1:24:21

would. but I digress. And the

1:24:23

other folklore as was named C

1:24:25

L Brown Okay now Ruth He

1:24:27

St Leger Gordon wrote about the

1:24:29

Harry. Hands of Dart More in

1:24:32

her book Witchcraft and Folklore of

1:24:34

Dark More from Nineteen Sixty Five.

1:24:36

That's when it was published and

1:24:39

Feel Brown wrote all about the

1:24:41

Harry Hands in her book Devin

1:24:43

Ghosts which was published in Nineteen

1:24:46

Eighty Two. Know, up until these

1:24:48

two women wrote about The Harry

1:24:50

Hands, the legend lived on through

1:24:53

oral history mostly and eyewitness accounts,

1:24:55

But by the time Ruth and

1:24:57

Theo were documenting these stories. The

1:25:00

description of the hands had

1:25:02

changed dramatically in the nineteen

1:25:04

twenty one articles. They were

1:25:07

described as invisible hand but

1:25:09

now the disembodied ghost hands

1:25:11

were not only visible but

1:25:13

they were hair reach her

1:25:15

on he barca fire there

1:25:17

and perhaps the a jump

1:25:20

to bug. Me

1:25:23

a Moment oppresses a typical the case and.

1:25:26

Now this jump from

1:25:28

the unseen. To the scene

1:25:31

and harry, yeah, to the tobacco

1:25:33

of at all exactly. Yeah, Know,

1:25:35

the tobacco of it all can

1:25:37

be traced back to Theo Brown,

1:25:39

whose mother apparently had her own

1:25:41

encounter with the hands back in

1:25:43

Nineteen Twenty Four rounds. So at

1:25:45

the time Via was just ten

1:25:47

years old and Nineteen Twenty Four.

1:25:49

and for at some of that

1:25:51

time, she and her parents were

1:25:53

living out of a caravan. Basically,

1:25:55

they had the vehicle and a

1:25:57

caravan and Co and they're just

1:26:00

doing their thing. gotcha now. And

1:26:02

like exactly now. Yeah, your family

1:26:04

right now. One night, the family

1:26:06

decided to pull over alongside the

1:26:08

road and door more to catch

1:26:10

some sleep and Theo and her

1:26:12

parents were all sleeping in the

1:26:14

back of the caravan. When all

1:26:16

of a sudden Ceos mother was

1:26:18

woken up by the sound of

1:26:20

something outside their window. Okay, Fios

1:26:22

Mom looked to the window and

1:26:24

saw the silhouette of a hand.

1:26:27

Just. A hand who run

1:26:29

up against the glass. Oh no,

1:26:31

this is like all of those

1:26:33

words scariest camping videos compilation though.

1:26:35

he was an army exactly over.

1:26:37

that's my nightgown so she just

1:26:39

saw this hand. It was unnaturally

1:26:41

large. mend it was Harry. Now

1:26:43

the window that this hand was

1:26:45

pressed up a good of glass

1:26:47

and then tried to get inside

1:26:49

the van by squeezing itself through

1:26:51

the Imo known and them and

1:26:53

are no no no Fios mom.

1:26:55

Not sure of what else to

1:26:58

do, not even sure what C

1:27:00

C like Am I awakened my

1:27:02

sleeping? I don't know what the

1:27:04

fuck is going on. Yeah he

1:27:06

decides to make the sign of

1:27:08

the cross and that seem to

1:27:10

be enough to scare the hand

1:27:12

away. As soon as she did

1:27:14

that it slid down the window

1:27:16

and then disappeared out of sight

1:27:18

never to be seen again. Okay

1:27:20

I mean you do the same

1:27:22

of across. I would have recreated

1:27:24

the pantry seen from sign one

1:27:26

hundred percent. Yeah now. feels mother

1:27:28

had no explanation for what she had

1:27:31

seen, but she claims that she believed

1:27:33

that the head was trying to get

1:27:35

inside to hurt them as it filled

1:27:38

her with dread. Now. From

1:27:40

what I understand, the on never

1:27:42

saw the head herself. She has

1:27:44

been sleeping the whole time, But

1:27:46

no doubt this early encounter could

1:27:48

have sparked her interest in Folklore,

1:27:50

Earth and The Legend of The

1:27:52

Harry Hand of Darkness Half Corps.

1:27:54

Now Theo told another story in

1:27:56

her collection of stories shared with

1:27:58

her by a Mrs. That is

1:28:00

com nemesis bad as com says

1:28:02

quote A young man who was

1:28:04

a guest at Penn in post

1:28:06

bridge undertook to run into Prince

1:28:08

Down on his motorbike to get

1:28:11

something for his hostess. In about

1:28:13

an hour he returned to Penn

1:28:15

leave very white and shaken, saying

1:28:17

he had a most frightening experience.

1:28:19

He had felt his hands gripped

1:28:21

by too rough and harry hands

1:28:23

which made every effort to throw

1:28:25

him off of his machine. and

1:28:27

he never got much beyond the

1:28:29

Clapper Bridge. Now. I

1:28:31

clapper bridge or had it look as

1:28:33

opposite. what the fuck is and yeah

1:28:35

totally how Harriet Harman club enough it

1:28:38

from us or robbery laps to draw

1:28:40

the brain you though I mean very

1:28:42

forward thinking it would be. The thing

1:28:44

is they're actually ancient structures that can

1:28:46

be found in the Moore's of Western

1:28:48

England. They basically a primitive type of

1:28:50

bridge in which planks or slaps a

1:28:52

stone rest on piles of other stones

1:28:54

ogre and just to kind of cross

1:28:56

over otherwise on cross able area. Now

1:29:00

another spooky. Run In with

1:29:02

the Harry Hands is committed by

1:29:04

folklorist Betty Partake in her book

1:29:06

Supernatural England which was published in

1:29:08

Two Thousand and Two K. Now

1:29:11

according to her in Nineteen Sixty

1:29:13

One, a young man was driving

1:29:15

from Plymouth to check for when

1:29:17

his car overturned along Highway Be

1:29:19

Thirty Two One Two, which is

1:29:21

again the road where the Harry

1:29:23

Hands or see totally. The young

1:29:26

man unfortunately did not survive the

1:29:28

crash and after a thorough investigation

1:29:30

and examination of. The seen the

1:29:32

they could not determine what caused

1:29:34

the accident in and and as

1:29:36

a result many people believe he

1:29:38

was driven off the road by

1:29:40

the Harry. Hands up dark more.

1:29:43

Public. Also shares a story from

1:29:45

Nineteen Ninety One where a doctor

1:29:47

from Somerset turned his car over

1:29:49

at the exact same place in

1:29:52

the row. In turn, this man

1:29:54

did survive and explained that it

1:29:56

was as if some malignant force

1:29:58

had sent his. Or out

1:30:00

of control. He claimed that just

1:30:03

before the crash, the temperature inside

1:30:05

his car dropped to near freezing

1:30:07

temperatures as if something evil was

1:30:10

in there with him. And then

1:30:12

moments later his steering wheel spun

1:30:14

out of control, causing the crash.

1:30:17

moon. Now, another account that I

1:30:19

read about involved a woman who

1:30:22

was driving down highway Be Three,

1:30:24

Two, one two one night when

1:30:26

she, for whatever reason, I decided

1:30:29

to pull over. Along the side

1:30:31

of the road and as she

1:30:33

sat there in her parked car,

1:30:36

she saw much like Ceos mom,

1:30:38

saw a disembodied hand appear out

1:30:40

of nowhere and just crawl along

1:30:42

the window shield inches away from

1:30:45

her face. Ah ha! The hand

1:30:47

was long and it was Harry

1:30:49

and then as quickly as it

1:30:52

appeared, it disappeared. There.

1:30:54

Are countless others stories about the

1:30:56

Harry Hands that have been shared

1:30:58

over the years some of them

1:31:00

had been written down, some other

1:31:03

meds has been told orally, and

1:31:05

locals never really seem to be

1:31:07

too surprised when a new story

1:31:09

of the Harry Hands emerges for

1:31:11

his. However, despite so many first

1:31:13

hand experience to to do their

1:31:16

slow to, there is no one

1:31:18

really knows where these Harry Hands

1:31:20

came from. but there are some

1:31:22

theories about who they might. Belong

1:31:24

to an odd thing for is a

1:31:26

pretty hairy body attached to those Harry

1:31:28

hands. but that's just me or ha

1:31:30

com a whole Chewbacca. Thanks! I'm over

1:31:32

here. On to Barca. I'm familiar with

1:31:34

which I believe is called Cacique. I

1:31:36

was actually a planet in which they

1:31:38

lived. but yeah, I haven't watched the

1:31:40

Star Wars Christmas special. I mean seventies

1:31:42

And while what is a planet but

1:31:44

island and spy means Earth? yeah you

1:31:46

know, you know, Really? Yeah. And

1:31:50

you have slipped going into some theories about these

1:31:52

has sure you don't want to caused by carl.

1:31:54

Sagan anymore. I see now I'm dow

1:31:56

a highway. Be thirty two. Want Who

1:31:58

is close to. The Dark More Prison

1:32:01

in Prince Town again. That's where the

1:32:03

Doctor Who Died in Nineteen Twenty One

1:32:05

Where Yes, Now this prison was opened

1:32:07

in eighty, No nine as a prisoner

1:32:09

of war camp before the French, when

1:32:11

England and France just couldn't get enough

1:32:14

of each other here. And so some

1:32:16

people think that these hands might belong

1:32:18

to an inmate who may have died.

1:32:20

There is something that the hands might

1:32:22

also belong to the spirit of a

1:32:24

man who was killed in an accent

1:32:26

along the highway shirts, while others believe

1:32:29

that the hands. Might belong to

1:32:31

a bronze age person who's resting

1:32:33

place had been disturbed over the

1:32:35

ear. Concern. Now a very popular

1:32:38

theory is that the hands belonged

1:32:40

to a man who used to

1:32:42

work at a gun powder factory,

1:32:44

and so power mills operated in

1:32:47

the area from Eighteen Forty Five

1:32:49

to around Eighteen Ninety Seven. And

1:32:51

legends suggests that a worker might

1:32:53