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this. Along for the ages that's it.
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Also See was has broken through the
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underworld Rice Queen of the Underworld See
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truly L Yeah he is basically Queen
3:07
of the damned at this point He
3:09
is a Casa See is ah. He's
3:11
the crow yeah see Robert Smith? yeah
3:13
I'm sources can be doing a club
3:16
tour with Secure Yard. Susie and the
3:18
band Seas are Like back and playing
3:20
shows. How about judges You are in
3:23
Susie Sue Co. Had Lima Oh yeah
3:25
has one could not open for the
3:27
other because the mean the equals yeah
3:30
I saw the movie. Thank.
3:32
You very much else. Has
3:34
equal amount of golf credits. The other
3:36
lists absolutely. Jojo see what does have
3:39
in that moment. She's twenty years old
3:41
now and she's like I'm not a
3:43
kid anymore and how am I going
3:45
to communicate that with the world? And
3:47
then they were like hanging out at
3:49
their parents' place and they're like Mad
3:51
Sound as kids that fits your mom's
3:53
Tiwari and is this is spiral from
3:56
there and I love to see it
3:58
happen. I like to think. By
4:00
putting so much energy like Jojo, see
4:02
why days and energy out into the
4:05
universe and me kind of will this
4:07
into existence? Yeah, to think that we
4:09
helped manifest this as a collective yeah
4:11
I know, like it. Just kind of
4:14
like mentally all came together and the
4:16
universe molded this new version of Jojo.
4:18
See you on our and it's because
4:21
of the energy that we've just like
4:23
in open propre project and really have
4:25
projecting yeah, proliferate and yards and perpetrating
4:27
everything. It's amazing. Arm and I love.
4:30
How Mass? To
4:33
server with her me than than things that
4:36
it is so funny how like I saw
4:38
an article of he desert was like dazed
4:40
beauty or something put it out for you
4:42
know to produce hip help the Cassie on
4:44
chairman of that ilk they'll put out a
4:47
thing be like golf fashion is back and
4:49
they were like a photo lineup no kidding
4:51
of like Susie's you ah fuck him I'll.
4:54
Randomly. In the crowley all share the
4:56
adding up to Jojo see what? You.
4:59
Know like there may been a Man
5:01
Center marathon? The boy and his. are
5:03
you know, like we don't want him
5:05
anymore? No, no, no Leno mail. I
5:08
mean opens up a space for Jojo.
5:10
See why? Well that's it. She's just
5:12
filling. Avoid? Yeah, exactly. And I mean
5:14
she's edgy now. She's got a song
5:16
with the word bitch in terms of
5:18
deaths. Yeah, exactly a dick in her
5:21
tongue out as interviews: Hi, I'm Irish
5:23
Disease Cyrus, Diana Bangor their offices. Her
5:25
bangers era. It really is. Yeah, this
5:27
is pretty fucking cool. Ah, Those were
5:29
here. People on it was fucking
5:32
here. It's incredibly entertaining because it's
5:34
like really what it is. It's
5:36
can't like pure, can't Because I
5:38
really do believe that Jojo See
5:41
were. Things. That she
5:43
is really on light the razor's
5:45
edge, not out. I mean just
5:47
like bad ass legs located the
5:49
valleys ruin. Never stop in fight
5:52
burn down at Seretse. Holy!
5:55
I added steals at the to
5:57
lox. It's plate play. Whoa. Yeah.
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Now yeah that is Hidden Fortress It
6:02
anyway I can to be here either
6:04
like I think that they are like
6:06
I'm hidden the dark side. I know
6:08
why we all deserve a dark matter.
6:10
The sole so early that up Joe
6:12
to at it I'm here for at
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leas fucking headliners Fast Bring it back
6:16
as yeah. It's
6:18
Headbangers Ball hosted by Joseph. See
6:21
you are baby. I buy a
6:23
ticket. Oh baby. I'll tune and
6:25
our our anywhere. Enough about that
6:28
on his golf news and cultures.
6:31
Ah we gotta get into the show. So
6:33
hi everyone welcome You know Lydia. We literally
6:35
been talking butcher does. he was golf face
6:37
for the last three minutes. So if you
6:39
don't know the deal with this show them
6:41
sorry you're a bit late my ass. You
6:43
know how we're going to be. I target
6:46
city cables who we have to talk the
6:48
drag race Them get the speak he said
6:50
to get into unless you have anything from
6:52
a talk of the first nothing else I
6:54
want to talk about. So let's get into
6:56
drag race. Okay it's beautiful So we have
6:58
Season sixteen Episode four T. A joke about.
7:01
and they were doing a book challenge. Yeah,
7:03
Ideal. I like. I like these challenges. They
7:05
done them a few times in the past
7:07
and I mean they're always really interesting because
7:09
again, it's one of those granting challenges. So
7:11
it's kind of an opportunity for the queen's
7:13
to sort of like exhibit a different side
7:16
of themselves. maybe of funnier side of themselves?
7:18
may be a more serious side of themselves.
7:20
It's really kind of up to them to
7:22
sort of direct this challenge in the direction
7:24
they want to go. Totally. I loved and
7:26
I loved it. And season two when we
7:28
got Dreams of Gold. In Thailand on Lps.
7:31
Spoilers abound and if he don't care skip
7:33
ahead three minutes. But yeah let's get into
7:35
a d of high points and low points.
7:37
I mean my high point is the fact
7:39
that and him feel wind has gone through
7:41
to the fine all right and never had
7:43
to lip sync. oh I didn't realize at
7:45
all in any kind of contacts never even
7:47
like as like a top two of the
7:50
week lip sync she's never had Do it
7:52
in Now going to find out of the
7:54
finale the and remain on the we have.
7:56
We really don't know what the finale going
7:58
to be. Yeah right. Apparently they
8:00
fit it into a live finale this year
8:02
I have questioned yeah that's true. Apparently I
8:04
was have like digging around on the internet
8:06
trying to figure it out. Yeah I guess
8:09
maybe they filmed the finale because of the
8:11
like the writers' strike that was happening, many
8:13
memory that it was going to you know
8:15
go on and on and on on and
8:17
maybe affect the finale. So they just kind
8:19
of. Pivoted. Yeah I don't
8:21
really know any cause they are also not
8:24
doing the traditional reunion like they had than
8:26
yeah be a lip sync smackdown. Was
8:28
he drawn into whatever is going to be
8:30
yeah but that's next week so you're
8:32
high point was an empty a getting through
8:34
yeah financially as especially I will say
8:36
the reason why is because she was so
8:39
nervous going into this challenge and was really
8:41
doubting herself because it was a writing
8:43
challenge and know as to be difficult if
8:45
like english is not your first language
8:47
right and then if you on top of
8:50
that. Have at challenges communicating period where they
8:52
seemed like they do or at least they
8:54
perceive themselves to have chow and like a
8:56
issues communicating the outer. just nice to see
8:58
them overcome it. Absolutely. It's a lot to
9:00
take on Zero. I'm on same page as
9:02
you in terms of high point but do
9:05
you have a discernible point? I want to
9:07
speak up because I know mine. What's your
9:09
ah no offense to anybody. I don't know
9:11
why it bothered me but that many challenge
9:13
gave me V x I was just some
9:15
handle them would have a simple. They had
9:17
a lip sync underwater and part of me
9:19
was like. Oh you're going to a
9:22
dunk tank. That's cute. But now they
9:24
had to go face down in Atlanta.
9:26
A of trough of water. Ah buffet
9:29
trough of water is I will will
9:31
throw at the bottom or whatever the
9:33
camera setup was. but the water was
9:35
there for like a foot and then
9:38
there was the camera and it was
9:40
just a lot of face in water.
9:42
Kind of like the tank burrow cover,
9:45
but. I got ivy
9:47
it as cover burned in my memory. I walk
9:49
buster as a kid but. It's just
9:51
it was just i don't know something about
9:53
it is not that ah disgusted me but
9:55
the more that I was still has like
9:58
i just don't wanna look at this. Anymore.
10:00
You're right now a kind of just because
10:02
it was just like oh you're only like
10:04
submerged your face he has I don't know.
10:07
there's a discipline loathsome were like no young
10:09
like to come in from the rain and
10:11
you're a little bit wet Minute: Dislike: It's
10:14
almost more uncomfortable than just being. I completely
10:16
so yeah because it's just like you're a
10:18
little bit wet and then you kinda like
10:20
it. See her in a weird way guy.
10:23
I don't know. It just kind of felt
10:25
like torture. Yeah, like some kind of like
10:27
medieval moment. Yeah, I agree. This challenge give
10:29
me swamp our walks in with him, Swamp
10:32
outside. That's when I feel like you're trying
10:34
to describe south. that was my will pointed
10:36
out. what? yeah I can of to agree
10:39
with you there. yeah but also know my
10:41
other low point was okay. a road pharaoh
10:43
looked really good him. but then I saw
10:45
the pants. Why
10:47
the hell what would help of those be
10:50
his alma mater No other than that like
10:52
he was serving he was gearing at the
10:54
top was cute but that I saw like
10:56
the fall the full locked him and was
10:58
like are no the see through panel. Has
11:00
really work for me. I didn't know, was
11:02
not expecting mono or we got them we
11:04
did. So I guess maybe beyond that weird
11:06
water challenge may be wrote of Heroes Passer
11:09
bys. Also, how come he didn't go back
11:11
to see the queens or untucked? He's like
11:13
the only guest judge who didn't unknowing of
11:15
the spend time with yes Madison which is
11:17
like fucking gray. I guess that's why I
11:20
didn't really ponder. And yeah I wasn't complain
11:22
when I do like will happen there. Yeah
11:24
anyway yeah no real low points. I guess
11:26
it kind of sucks for Que that this
11:28
is like the first time. Since season eight,
11:30
they didn't do a final four hundred went
11:32
home. But I'm not
11:35
that bothered him as the crack and and
11:37
was yeah you whatever I expect the questioning
11:39
that yes or no mad know yeah it
11:41
was about it's been a good one. looking
11:43
forward to the next week other the longer
11:45
we get interview. Things. The more into for
11:47
hims been planted. What's. Happening Glad it was have
11:49
that the time I become the para todo.
11:52
I just want to see everyone having fun
11:54
yet and enjoying their birthday party and there's
11:56
nothing wrong with that exactly. Absolutely nothing wrong,
11:59
fat or it. But if you have
12:01
other feelings, if you want to see
12:03
people cry their birthday party, please let
12:05
us now let us know what your
12:07
thoughts and feelings are. Let us know
12:09
who you think is going to eat.
12:11
Eat it. Ah sold on our will
12:13
report back next week and try to
12:15
give you any definitive answers. Will see
12:17
who looks sad at the reunion. but
12:19
ah yes, vote will put down drag
12:21
race talk for an hour of we
12:23
that's and Spooky Gables at the At
12:26
and to the do If that's okay,
12:28
who are it? So I don't think
12:30
that this is going to be a
12:32
particularly long line, but it's kind of
12:34
heart warming and at least given the
12:36
subject matter that I'm going to be
12:38
talking about today, I feel like it's
12:40
kind of find to start off on
12:42
a wacky at heartwarming that I'm into
12:44
it and ran so at work right?
12:46
Yeah I'm plus we just started asking
12:48
else in the bowels of hell with
12:50
Jojo See was.period in your we started
12:52
off in the of the utter darkness
12:54
he i was very intense. yeah it
12:57
it was to a Gothic sensibilities and
12:59
inner darkness as like Mars black is
13:01
to dark paint and know the inky
13:03
ist of the into day exactly as
13:05
it's so odd to the story here
13:07
and it actually has like echoes of
13:09
Homeward Bound and remember are Bound Oh
13:11
hell yeah that was one of my
13:13
favorite movies growing up in the nineties.
13:15
Okay, I love the shit out of
13:17
ammo. Well get ready to find one
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are your favorite news pieces of Twenty
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Twenty Four than because this motherfucker has
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guide. I'll miss said lassie sassine class
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seats. Who are they? Chance, Shadow, and
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Sassy? That's right. Yeah, last, a classy.
13:30
And Sassy also known as ah
13:32
but it has them all wrapped
13:34
up and wine that so there
13:36
is this dog named nice Guy
13:39
and they haven't Recently gone on
13:41
a two thousand mile adventure. Whoa!
13:43
And ranging from all the way
13:46
down in California too. Gross point
13:48
miss again like as suburb of
13:50
Detroit so basically the bottom of
13:53
the states to the top of
13:55
the state's a. So
13:58
reasonably Police in. Harper
14:00
Woods which is like in that the
14:02
Detroit area responded to a call about
14:05
a stray dog that was found in
14:07
the streets. It was a Terrier Max
14:09
and it was ultimately taken into an
14:12
animal welfare group from the area isn't
14:14
who checked it for microchips and it
14:16
turned out that it was a dog
14:19
that had been registered as missing link
14:21
in the summer of Twenty Twenty three
14:23
from California named Nice Guy The hell
14:26
Yeah. So scamming the microchip offered up
14:28
the information about their owners. But of
14:30
course this was like a little bit
14:32
more than the usual. you know, found
14:34
a stray dog situation because this dog
14:37
was two thousand miles away from it's
14:39
fucking home right? So then the questions
14:41
begin. Have a fuck, did it get
14:43
here like did at Walk all the
14:45
way to Michigan? Well only the dog
14:47
truly knows but what they're thinking as
14:49
I maybe it was picked up or
14:51
stolen and then sold to somebody and
14:53
that's how it ended up in Michigan
14:55
and be heard and he was. Last
14:57
summer Mischka had gotten loose from their
15:00
owners. Place of work out he was
15:02
owned by the human family which are
15:04
probably who on but it it's almost
15:06
like as if a dog wrote the
15:09
article is like my and men's my
15:11
room in Zoc Larry that like a
15:13
dog baby speak vital thing is it
15:16
a ran out of the family garage
15:18
lost it's a line and never returned
15:20
and even of the family had their
15:23
information on missed his color. It seems
15:25
like whoever found them didn't end up
15:27
calling the Family Usa now. Doesn't.
15:31
Necessarily bode well for whoever that was. no
15:33
as a little bit sorceress less like. Also,
15:35
if it was somebody who just happened to
15:37
find a stray dog usually would do what
15:39
ultimately happened, turn them over to like animal
15:41
welfare and they would look for a chip
15:43
and then boom, he would have been reunited
15:45
a lot sooner exactly. And the unspoken thing,
15:47
the thing that I've kind of been missing
15:49
so far is the fact that when they
15:51
sound nice car two thousand miles away he
15:54
wasn't my they're like oh shit this dog
15:56
have been sleeping in the pits, literally, just
15:58
always been taken care of right. The
16:00
been living in our home around a mean
16:02
yeah, I'm still little bit too all camp
16:04
for you know, because we haven't lived on
16:06
the streets for the better part of the
16:08
last year. I like walk two thousand mile.
16:11
That's a trip and a half an hour.
16:13
My know we joke about homeward Bound, but
16:15
it's not like that said really happens that
16:17
much in this world one else. And as
16:19
it's not like the dog fucking came home,
16:21
they ended up just going and going and
16:24
going. And that's also a bit outside of
16:26
dogs nature. But anyway, yeah dogs are not
16:28
monoliths or anything like that. but. Just given
16:30
the context clues they believe that somebody
16:32
probably pick them up in and tried
16:35
to make a buck off of them.
16:37
and at the end of the day
16:39
the family is just so happy to
16:41
have Mysql back. Sorry if somebody was
16:43
accidentally sold this dog and didn't know
16:46
that it was a stolen dog etc.
16:48
Yeah, but ah yeah I it's just
16:50
good at the start of back with
16:52
their original owner is absolutely that sucks
16:54
but his mouth fucking wild life while
16:57
he would suck to lose your dog
16:59
but just how. Much of a mind
17:01
bender would it be to them? Get a
17:03
call and have somebody be like we found
17:05
your dog Two thousand miles we look on
17:08
the other side of the country and not
17:10
like right away. This is about like six
17:12
months later. more me and yeah. so by
17:15
that point you've already kind of like grieved
17:17
the the loss of this animal was you
17:19
have a nuclear family member right? Exactly. Any
17:21
kind of just kind of come to terms
17:24
with the fact that they're not there anymore.
17:26
but then boom their their yeah. so anyway
17:28
happy that Mishegas home. Mommy for
17:30
the families. Hopefully nobody is out there
17:32
student eyes cause that is is fucked
17:35
up and I don't want to think
17:37
about it but you know it's happening
17:39
in the throw. People are fucked up.
17:41
A man will disappoint you. So thank
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you to my source or because they
17:45
will not disappoint me is Eighteen News
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Yes okay is so today Johnny
20:19
Guess what we're going to be
20:21
though and why we're gonna be
20:23
visiting a K. Oh that's never
20:25
find. Usually it's not. Ah, as
20:28
this time are going to be
20:30
traveling to Kenya. Oh yeah to
20:32
visit Tim Cave. Okay, you know
20:34
her. no I don't but I'm
20:36
sure it is just gonna be
20:39
as heart wrenching and upsetting. Of
20:41
all the other caving stories, this
20:43
one. Is a little bit depressed.
20:45
Wasn't a magical cave? Know how?
20:48
have no students a ever magical
20:50
today though? It's this game is
20:52
actually kind of the opposite because
20:55
it is known as kid I'm
20:57
cave but it's also referred to
20:59
as the hell hole and that's
21:02
for a very very good reason
21:04
because according to some people can
21:06
Him Cave is the deadliest cave
21:09
in the world. but not necessarily
21:11
for the reasons you might suspect.
21:13
Okay now in Mount Elgon National
21:16
Park large extinct volcano known as
21:18
Mount Elgon Mom and it's It's
21:20
along the border between Kenya and
21:23
Uganda and their nestled on the
21:25
eastern side of this mountain Rage
21:27
is Clinton came alive as you
21:29
said mountain Roads Oh get into
21:32
it mama Firefighters and the mountain
21:34
of raise to I'm here I'm
21:36
well I'm sure a lot of
21:39
oh do ya and now is
21:41
the moment to expel it.for human
21:43
experience. And right yeah what is
21:45
it but a mountain of raid?
21:48
Absolutely no kidding cave is it
21:50
again the nestled into this mountain
21:52
but it's actually a petrified rain
21:54
forests and over eight thousand feet
21:56
above the base of Mount Elgon
21:59
in Kenya. It's believed
22:01
that about seven million years
22:03
ago when the volcanic Mount
22:05
Elgon was still active it
22:07
erupted and and ended up
22:09
burying the surrounding rain forest
22:11
in ass him At that
22:13
point in time to them
22:15
would have been submerged in
22:17
molten lava. but as the
22:20
earth cooled the cave reamers
22:22
Now this cave system is
22:24
pretty unique because over the
22:26
years it's actually got in
22:28
bigger Today the mouth. Of
22:30
the cave is about sixty feet
22:32
wide and extends at least six
22:34
hundred to seven hundred feet into
22:37
the mountains. And a big reason
22:39
why this cave has grown over
22:41
the years has to do with
22:43
the fact that it is a
22:46
natural salt mine. So inside the
22:48
cave there are a series of
22:50
scratch marks and for the longest
22:52
time no one knew who or
22:55
what was excavating the inside of
22:57
this came home early explorers of
22:59
Kill. Him Cave initially believed the
23:01
unusual markings on the cave walls were
23:04
from ancient Egyptians who are in the
23:06
cave of four stones and salt and
23:08
stuff. But then it was learned that
23:10
elephants were actually responsible for expanding the
23:13
depths of kid and came early. Yeah
23:15
so all of those scratch marks of
23:17
they thought were caused by humans are
23:20
actually caused by elephants is banging around
23:22
inside the cave with their to assess.
23:24
Can accuse it is like I know
23:27
that they are literally using the force
23:29
of their size. Term knock out a
23:31
Cave Auto? It's it's a fucking few.
23:34
It's impressive ass And for hundreds maybe
23:36
thousands of years elephants have been doing
23:38
this. They've been coming to to them
23:40
cave in the dead of night to
23:42
use it as a giant software. Oh
23:45
yeah, maybe we just like I said,
23:47
use their tusks to dig into the
23:49
wall they mind for assault In a
23:51
Gabi era I'm I lied to him
23:54
as another awful a scratch in the
23:56
bombs on the cave all the know.
23:58
Absolutely. Nuggets. Why not? Now and
24:00
this was you know it's people go
24:02
to Salt Rooms. Maybe this is like
24:05
the elephant unless I go overseas. So
24:07
good for their i'll have him long.
24:09
Yeah it probably is, but it's not
24:11
necessarily always good. Further, just l of
24:13
fit. Body. Oh yeah
24:15
I cause over time met some
24:18
with that. Some accents have happened
24:20
now basically because elephants are die
24:22
or know and meaning that they
24:25
like mostly awake during the day.
24:27
They don't really have good eyesight
24:29
in the dark and this is
24:32
a cave. It's pretty dark so
24:34
as a results a elephants some
24:36
times will run into a bit
24:39
of a disaster in the sense
24:41
that the younger elephants especially may
24:43
accidentally find themselves. Falling into
24:45
crevices in the king. And
24:48
sadly when this happens the usually
24:51
can't get out in the end
24:53
up dying now would be the
24:55
saddest thing to come across. Or
24:57
last year, right? Oh no no,
24:59
or because of this unfortunate fact
25:01
a kid, him Caves has become
25:03
somewhat of an elephant graveyard. Aha,
25:06
go at all. And I guess
25:08
even sometimes mummified remains can be
25:10
found at the bottom of the
25:12
crevices inside of this cave. And
25:15
I think mummified usually because it's
25:17
assault cave so it's particularly drives
25:19
particularly dart homes. know the composition?
25:21
Maybe he's a little bit different
25:23
depending on like exactly the environment
25:26
that there and they're just cured.
25:28
Yeah, certify Yeah, Element Charity is
25:30
do now. Regardless of this unfortunate
25:32
fact, elephants still visit the cave
25:34
because they're saw is just too
25:36
good be be yeah Obama. And
25:39
as a result of the elephants
25:41
going to the cave, they also
25:43
attract a host. of other wildlife
25:45
like monkeys, antelope, shrews, hygienist leopards
25:47
and and mom Malone who are
25:50
basically go into the cave to
25:52
consume the chunks of salt that
25:54
the elephants have left behind and
25:56
of course kid him cave being
25:59
a key. If is also home
26:01
to your typical cave dwellers like
26:03
bats, rats, spiders and them all
26:05
sorts of other insects and creepy
26:08
crawlers. And even though that might
26:10
give people the Icc couldn't keep
26:12
is incredibly beautiful it is the
26:14
have really. Liked. Of wash
26:16
area like the entrance of the cave
26:18
is just surrounded by like overgrowth and
26:20
then you go into the cave again
26:23
it's pretty big pretty why does not
26:25
those like scary Caesarea like on your
26:27
chest to slay now wheezing through the
26:29
thick enough for the elephants mama is
26:31
big enough for you. oh yeah I
26:33
mean if it's big enough for them
26:35
to get lost and die than hell
26:37
yeah that's the case for me. it's
26:39
of i. Hate that. Yeah,
26:41
you don't answer. We want to be
26:43
solar power Those that l I doubt
26:45
whether it's a real trade off, exactly.
26:48
But the thing is, this National Parks
26:50
is beautiful. It in of itself. Yeah,
26:52
So naturally, over the years human beings
26:54
have ventured into the cave. But.
26:57
Doing. So is incredibly risky
26:59
because despite it's alert despite
27:01
the beauty kid M Cave
27:04
is believed to be the
27:06
home of a ruthless killer.
27:09
Now back in the late seventies and
27:11
the early eighties there was a fifty
27:13
six year old Frenchman who was living
27:16
in Kenya. This man's name was never
27:18
made public though you may hear him
27:20
being referred to as Charles Monet. A
27:22
back in Nineteen Ninety Four and author
27:25
named Richard Preston released a novel called
27:27
the Hot Zone mean you've heard of
27:29
It's been turned into a Tv show
27:31
as well known but it's a non
27:34
fiction thriller that's written about the series
27:36
of events and in that the Frenchman
27:38
is given. The Suit and I'm
27:40
Charles Monet and in some articles
27:43
that you find on the Internet
27:45
that's been repeated. The thing is,
27:47
since that wasn't his real name,
27:49
I'm not going to continue to
27:52
refer to him as that. so
27:54
I'll just be referring to him
27:56
as the Frenchman. Okay now on
27:59
January first, Nineteen Eighty New Year's
28:01
Mother Fucking dare ah Frenchman decided
28:03
to visit Kim K's Now typically
28:05
when we talk about caves on
28:08
this podcast, this would be where
28:10
we would start to talk about
28:12
how he got trapped in things
28:15
went horribly horribly wrong. Yeah, totally.
28:17
However, this isn't one of those
28:19
stories are. Instead, after a few
28:21
hours of exploration, the Frenchman left
28:24
to them cave seemingly unscathed. Okay,
28:26
but little did he know. He.
28:28
Wasn't alone when he last
28:31
seven days after visiting the
28:33
cave, the Frenchman started experiencing
28:35
an onslaught of headaches that
28:37
he just couldn't shake. And
28:39
a short while later he
28:41
caught a fever. and then
28:44
three days later. So about
28:46
ten days after visiting the
28:48
case, this man began to
28:50
uncontrollably vol man. So then
28:52
he started to experience signs
28:55
of Malaysia and. Up
28:58
my Algeria. Out of my
29:00
now know who my Lg a male
29:02
oriented fibromyalgia. Yeah okay exactly. Although basically
29:04
his movements became really strange. Started as
29:07
my Malaysia baby doll baby doll baby
29:09
doll. far thank you so much Yeah
29:11
exactly he was dip in he was
29:14
death drop. Now he will limit again
29:16
for a lie as being passive aggressive
29:18
yes But the thing is and he
29:21
was suffering from a lot of aches
29:23
and pains he was having a hard
29:25
time moving, his muscles are really sore,
29:27
his face was. Feeling stiff and according
29:30
to those who knew him, his whole
29:32
personality was beginning to change. Now it
29:34
was pretty clear at this point that
29:37
the Frenchman needed some sort of help
29:39
and so some of his friends helped
29:41
him board a plane so that he
29:43
could go to the hospital in a
29:46
neuro be okay. But once he was
29:48
on board of this plane, he began
29:50
to farm. And but this time he
29:53
wasn't just vomit involvement, he was vomiting
29:55
up this like a viscous black will
29:57
lick when. It's reported that
29:59
he. Filling several barf bag with
30:01
the substance during the flight now
30:04
but then his know started to
30:06
bleed and it just wouldn't stop.
30:08
and the time the plane had
30:10
landed blood was just pouring out
30:12
of his face and so of
30:14
course he was rushed to the
30:16
and or oh be hospital in
30:18
attacks in like that Billie Eyeless
30:20
music video air either How Moon
30:23
car the thing is. Unfortunately by
30:25
the time the Frenchman was admitted
30:27
to the hospital it was already
30:29
too late. While sitting in
30:31
the waiting room, the man suddenly
30:33
keeled over it. He began to
30:36
vomit blood and then he fell
30:38
unconscious and before medical staff could
30:40
even intervene, blood began to seep
30:43
from it. Every orifice on his
30:45
body jokes and are your first
30:47
Their hair yeah eyes, nose, ears,
30:50
mouth, a whole be Athens and
30:52
he was jess off and like
30:54
very quickly just on the floor
30:57
lying in a pool of his
30:59
blood. Poured Guy? Yeah, and
31:01
despite attempts to resuscitate him,
31:04
the Frenchman ended up passing
31:06
away from him, but nobody
31:08
knew what had killed him.
31:11
Yeah, However, approximately nine days
31:13
later, one of the doctors
31:15
who attempted to resuscitate the
31:18
Frenchman had also fallen ill.
31:20
He began to develop similar
31:22
symptoms, and once again, nobody
31:25
knew why. Thank. Fully,
31:27
that doctor did receive treatment and
31:29
was able to make a full
31:31
recovery as a result. worker. but
31:34
the inquest into what had killed
31:36
the Frenchman had only just be
31:38
done. On. Tracing the French
31:40
Mans activities before his death, nothing
31:43
really seemed out of the ordinary
31:45
until it was learned that he
31:47
had spent some time in Kid
31:50
Him cave and so it was
31:52
suspected that his feet and the
31:54
cave for some how directly linked?
31:57
Sure ultimately that would be right.
32:00
Unfortunately, there would be little to
32:02
go off at the time and
32:04
it would be another seven years
32:06
before it hit him. Caved would
32:08
claim another life Now in Nineteen
32:10
eighty Seven, a fifteen year old
32:13
boy from Denmark hadn't visiting Kenya
32:15
with his family and one day
32:17
this young man decided to spend
32:19
a day in Mount Elgon National
32:21
Park. And as fate would have
32:23
it he this frolic through nature
32:25
would lead him to the belly
32:27
of kid. I'm cave. Now.
32:30
Soon after exploring the cave, this
32:32
teenager began to experience the same
32:34
symptoms that the Frenchman who visited
32:37
the cave seven years earlier had.
32:39
He developed a headache. He started
32:41
to vomit uncontrollably, his whole body
32:44
dropped, and very quickly his family
32:46
decided to seek medical attention. The
32:48
boy was emitted into Neuro be
32:51
hospital where he was live out
32:53
his final days. Despite aggressive treatment,
32:55
the young boy died eleven days
32:58
after entering kid on cave succumbing,
33:00
To the violence symptoms that just
33:02
ravished his body. Will Just like
33:05
the Frenchman, no one knew. What?
33:08
Had killed the Danish boys.
33:10
But the second consequential death
33:12
sparked an international investigation into
33:14
the deadly kid. I'm case.
33:16
So for now, in the
33:18
Spring of Nineteen Eighty Eight,
33:20
a joint Us and Kenyan
33:22
operation led by the United
33:24
States Army Medical Research Institute
33:26
of Infectious Disease began. Although
33:28
they didn't know what killed
33:30
the Frenchman and the Danish
33:32
boy, it was now suspected
33:34
that they had contracted some
33:36
sort of virus. During their time
33:38
inside of the cave so decked out
33:41
in their swank yes, biohazard A tired
33:43
or thank you yeah you know breathe
33:45
as molds. Yeah if you're gonna be
33:48
a biohazard else at the outfits I
33:50
might as well make a look good.
33:52
Me is all tie dye that ah
33:54
humans will tape or the i'm Sick
33:57
now that I'm Darts in their ah
33:59
Fit your. Hormonal birth? yeah Me: Go
34:01
to War Absolutely move would be safe
34:03
and sexy. Who says you can't be
34:05
both right? Yeah it reminds me of
34:07
our friend Sam who who worked at
34:09
a Tim Hortons him and got the
34:11
to war is over then took it
34:14
home and like Taylor to fucking rights
34:16
and she looks the best out all
34:18
of us you literally would put dark
34:20
them a sigh of and like a
34:22
made of said her body perfectly and
34:24
it's yeah yeah into the come into
34:26
dinner and look into like efforts are
34:28
very beautiful Be my. Why can't you
34:31
yeah to slick do better Yes,
34:33
an end and the country's thing.
34:35
Yeah, never told anybody she did.
34:37
I know, yeah for people were
34:39
just like why do I look
34:41
like shit is and why didn't
34:43
look so good right? It's smoke
34:45
and mirrors. Yeah, I'll smoke in
34:47
Iowa. that's drag mama is now.
34:49
But anyway, yeah this research team.
34:51
They went to the cave wearing
34:53
biohazard outfits, a maple, an army
34:55
I, one hundred percent high waisted
34:57
totally and they just descended into
34:59
the cave. To conduct a thorough
35:01
investigation now team members ended up
35:04
capturing and took samples from all
35:06
of the wildlife that they could
35:08
find in the cave and this
35:10
include at bats, birds, rodents, and
35:12
insects that were also living inside
35:15
the cave mitre sense that. This
35:18
also involved taking samples of
35:20
bat guano and the elephants.
35:22
These. So bad
35:24
one know i had to look up what this was
35:27
a limp it it's poop basically but in the same
35:29
way that like. A rabbit doesn't fully
35:31
digests their food. Have a bat also
35:33
doesn't So this bat guano kind of
35:35
looks more like dirt. Yeah, if you
35:37
didn't really know what you were looking
35:40
at, you think it was just dirty
35:42
nasty. I learned about it to be
35:44
a band called Guano Bats. Oh and.
35:47
I. Fucked up the Google search or her.
35:49
anyway. whether I was looking about Poop
35:51
will look, they they taught you. Sometimes
35:53
I know Ryan is not cool me
35:55
out. So basically they took all of
35:57
these samples from the cave and then
35:59
in an. Hemp to test how
36:01
contagious kill him cave was. I
36:03
don't like this fact, but they
36:05
did it mind. This ended up
36:08
leaving caged guinea pigs and monkeys
36:10
in and around the case just
36:12
to see if they would get
36:14
sick. Oh now, ah move. The
36:17
thing is, despite all of these
36:19
efforts, not a single trace of
36:21
a virus was found in any
36:23
of the samples that they collected.
36:26
End the caged animals thankfully never
36:28
got ill and car. Ultimately, this
36:30
and Nineteen Eighty Eight expedition was
36:32
considered a complete failure and add
36:35
it to the mystery of this
36:37
virus that seemingly disappeared without a
36:39
trace. Now. When this research
36:42
was happening to them, cave was
36:44
close to the public sure, but
36:46
afterwards the cave was open to
36:48
come on and water file a
36:50
really great yeah yeah. now. fast
36:53
forwarding a few years into Nineteen
36:55
Ninety Six. There was a conservation
36:57
biologists named Mark Asplund who had
36:59
an encounter with Kid Him Cave
37:02
after the local members of the
37:04
community told him about the Elephant
37:06
Mine made the move just like
37:08
oh My God this is. Amazing
37:11
elephants go there they might have
37:13
sought. You should go so far
37:15
so A with this recommendation Mark
37:17
the very next day went to
37:19
the cave with two other men
37:21
a priest and another conservationists mom
37:23
is priest I guess had a
37:25
phd in ancient languages Mark recounted
37:28
this would our no other priests
37:30
was there but he was there.
37:32
it's cool whatever whatever we're doing
37:34
saw ah anyway the and it
37:36
of traveling to Mount Elgon National
37:38
Park and they ended up. Visiting
37:41
kitten came now when they arrived
37:43
at the park there actually the
37:45
to armed guards who were assigned
37:47
to them and this was just
37:49
a basically protect them from wildlife
37:51
and these armed guards also served
37:53
as an escort who brought them
37:55
to the case of her. Now
37:57
a short while later they arrive.
38:00
That kid him cave and the
38:02
three men began to explore. And
38:04
because they were completely unaware of
38:06
the caves deadly reputation they did
38:09
this without a stitch of protective
38:11
gear. All yawns a nightmare. yeah
38:13
yeah just with their backpacks in
38:16
the t shirts and shorts and
38:18
the hiking boots. Salamander like Salty
38:20
was given a Lego the line
38:23
an idea. Now after this day
38:25
trip Marcus drop back off that
38:27
his tend to mean see require
38:30
safaris. So that movie basically like a place repeat.
38:32
It's kind of like a. A. Forest
38:34
Hotel how hackers are just like rent
38:36
out a tent. Now The owner of
38:38
this Safari named Jane Burnley actually ask
38:41
Mark how the trip was and then
38:43
she proceeded to tell him about a
38:45
relatively new book that was published just
38:48
two years prior and me. Jane ended
38:50
up pulling out a copy of the
38:52
book that I already mentioned the Hot
38:55
Zone and then handed it to Mark
38:57
and while she did this, he explained
38:59
that it was a book about the
39:01
too gruesome deaths associated with kid. M
39:04
T. Bama By now it was
39:06
nineteen Ninety Six and the cave
39:08
was believed to be a primary
39:10
source of one or more file
39:12
virus that concern but at this
39:14
point Marcus dislike. Now a warning
39:16
rise. but the whole fucking day
39:18
there and now I'm finding this
39:20
out. Yeah, totally yeah. so it
39:22
just kind of explain what a
39:24
file a virus is really quickly
39:27
are for to great band name
39:29
but aside from that I've no
39:31
idea of yeah it's a zoonotic
39:33
it which means. That this is
39:35
a virus that is transmitted from
39:37
animals to people and the two
39:39
most com and members of this
39:42
family The file of viruses are
39:44
the Ebola Virus and the Marburg
39:46
Virus of Her. And according to
39:48
the Cd see, the Marburg Virus
39:50
was discovered in Nineteen Sixty Seven
39:53
and the more common Ebola Virus
39:55
was discovered in Nineteen Seventy Six.
39:57
Okay Anderson, seen that the previously
39:59
mentioned one isn't good given the
40:01
company that A keeps ah like
40:04
the Marburg lead. Marburg Virus A
40:06
exactly ever Marburg Virus. Yeah, yeah
40:08
it's It's not as common as
40:10
the a Bowl of ice What
40:12
we will tell ya at it
40:15
in a little ban chortle fuck
40:17
you are. Yeah, basically these file
40:19
A viruses. There's no treatment for
40:21
either one of these diseases. About
40:23
medical intervention and care can increase
40:26
a person's chance of survival due
40:28
to increased awareness, education, and. Early
40:30
detection, the average mortality rate of
40:32
the A Bowl of Iris sits
40:35
at about fifty percent. Ah, Zola.
40:37
Great odd know. However, the mortality
40:40
rate of the Marburg Virus is
40:42
much worse really. To date, there
40:44
have been four hundred and sixty
40:47
seven documented cases of more bird,
40:49
and three hundred and seventy seven
40:51
of those people have died. And
40:54
yeah, Doc is the Marburg Virus
40:56
mortality rate of he percent Baja
40:58
and it's now believed. That
41:00
to them cave is where the
41:03
virus start at. Yale
41:05
now talk more about that and a
41:08
little bit But needless to say Mark
41:10
ask when was pretty stunned to hear
41:12
this new ah and he was just
41:15
completely shocked that nobody up until now
41:17
had warned him about the dangers associated
41:19
with Kim K's everything he had to
41:21
guard. Yeah that took him to the
41:24
case. He was like yeah really hit
41:26
me that my yeah, what's going on
41:28
and he had a whole community of
41:31
people being like you need to go
41:33
Halo two it finds herself. In
41:35
the Cayenne. But nobody mentioned
41:38
this really horrific history that
41:40
this cave happens to have
41:42
exactly now. Over
41:45
the next few days a mark
41:47
just read this book the Hot
41:49
Zone and just devoured every page
41:52
and then a few days after
41:54
that he started feeling ill and
41:56
he knew right away that something
41:58
was off color. Mark decided
42:01
to visit a local doctor and
42:03
after running a few tests, the
42:05
doctor concluded that everything was fine.
42:07
However, over the following week or
42:09
so, Marks symptoms worsened down. He
42:12
ended up going to the infamous
42:14
Neuro Be hospital the Don't Miss
42:16
their couldn't figure out to the
42:18
cause of the Marks symptoms. However,
42:20
Mark was given a prescription that
42:22
would help clear his body of
42:25
any parasites said he may be
42:27
hosting, but unfortunately that medication didn't
42:29
help either. Via a short while
42:31
later, Mark caught a flight to
42:33
see a tropical medicine specialist in
42:36
Cape Town in South Africa and
42:38
their mark learned that whatever was
42:40
wrong with him probably wasn't Marburg
42:43
or Ebola because he would have
42:45
already been dead by now. This
42:47
is what he was suffering from,
42:50
so that was a bit of
42:52
relief. However, the specialist in Cape
42:54
Town basically determined that Marcus probably
42:56
infected with some less severe viruses
42:59
season and suggested. That it didn't
43:01
really matter what viruses it
43:03
was, because there was nothing
43:05
that could be done about
43:07
it regardless. So after that
43:09
med, that medical advice, Mark
43:11
decided it was time to
43:13
return home to United States
43:16
to recuperate. Absolutely. And thankfully,
43:18
after about six months, he
43:20
made a full recovery really,
43:22
and was just incredibly thankful
43:24
that he managed to get
43:26
out of the scenario unscathed,
43:28
because had he gotten. The virus
43:30
that the Frenchman, that dutch boy got. He.
43:33
Would have done. Absolutely. He
43:35
would have been far. Yeah,
43:37
so all of things considered,
43:39
Mark was incredibly lucky to
43:41
be alive now. Three years
43:43
after Marks close encounter in
43:45
Nineteen Ninety Nine, the Democratic
43:47
Republic of Congo experienced a
43:49
deadly outbreak of the Marburg
43:51
Virus. Okay, the viruses origin
43:54
in this case was eventually
43:56
traced to minds in the
43:58
area where people worked. Near
44:00
one another in the dark and
44:02
this was not just a dark
44:04
environment, but also a dry environment.
44:07
Minute break was obviously devastating, but
44:09
it also confirmed to researchers that
44:11
the Marburg Virus seem to thrive
44:13
in these dark and dry, cavernous
44:16
environment totally. but it still wasn't
44:18
immediately obvious how this virus was
44:20
able to spread to human beings.
44:23
said they were like, okay, Environments.
44:26
Like kitten cave, this is where
44:28
this virus seems to be able
44:30
to survive. Yeah, but how is
44:32
it being transferred? Being as the
44:35
Tropic by actually I was being
44:37
transferred to human being. The biology
44:39
is not biology exactly so these
44:41
clues are coming in but the
44:44
not all connecting. But then in
44:46
two thousand and seven and neighboring
44:48
cave in Uganda would divulge some
44:50
secret of her in the wake
44:53
of an outbreak amongst minors working
44:55
at. Could talk a cave. Scientists
44:57
detected a virus in a local
45:00
eat chips in fruit bat on
45:02
say yeah and after series of
45:04
tests it was determined that the
45:07
Egyptian fruit bat that was captured
45:09
was a reservoir for of the
45:11
Marburg virus him this same species
45:14
of bad they came to find
45:16
out occasionally visit that kid him
45:18
cave and so it was now
45:21
more or less confirmed that the
45:23
Frenchman and the Dutch boy died.
45:25
Of the Marburg virus that had been
45:28
passed on to them by eg. Ups
45:30
in a fruit bat, the are saved
45:32
up. that's of plan my know and
45:35
will get a little bit into how
45:37
this whole thing works now. Basically, these
45:39
findings were first published hello. it was
45:42
discovered in two thousand and Seven. They
45:44
weren't published until Two thousand and Ten
45:46
in an article by the National Library
45:48
of Medicine in the United States. and
45:51
it was really the first time that
45:53
hard data implicated bats as a major.
45:55
Natural reservoir for the
45:58
Marburg virus now. Unfortunately,
46:01
As cute as they are, bats
46:03
are see the Little Pretoria and
46:05
this is because their tolerance for
46:07
viruses is much higher then basically
46:09
any other mammal on earth. Yes,
46:12
and that has the lot to
46:14
do with the fact that the
46:16
eat a lot of things like
46:18
insects that it happened to carry
46:21
a lot of these viruses. Or
46:23
yeah, so basically, if bats didn't
46:25
have this natural tolerance for viruses,
46:27
they simply wouldn't exist because as
46:29
soon. As the eat all of
46:32
these insects they would have this virus
46:34
and it would just kill them and
46:36
they be extinct. and they just bats
46:38
wouldn't be bad sore of instead they're
46:41
like little garbage. Me exactly hungry little
46:43
bottom for disease really put in an
46:45
even me see our yeah exactly exactly
46:48
so yeah bats just because of how
46:50
these live and where they live in
46:52
what they eat. their just immune to
46:55
so many viruses. but that doesn't mean
46:57
that they aren't carriers of viruses because
46:59
that's another. Unfortunate back fact, because
47:02
they are, it's not susceptible
47:04
to these viruses. They're really
47:06
good at spreading dire And
47:08
also bats are the only
47:10
mammal that can fly which
47:12
makes their ability to spread
47:14
these viruses even battery power
47:16
outages, flying all over the
47:18
place to pooping all over
47:20
the place they're migrating is
47:22
a bad situation. In now,
47:24
it's a bad situation and
47:26
it's a bad situation, and
47:28
least for humans and mammals
47:30
who. Can end up coming into
47:32
contact with these viruses Now of
47:34
course, every viruses different, but thankfully
47:37
the Marburg virus is pretty elusive.
47:39
Some scientists believe that the Marburg
47:41
virus may require to hosts before
47:43
it can be transferred to human,
47:46
so this is something they're still
47:48
not entirely sure we're Basically, if
47:50
that is the case, this means
47:52
that the bat who ultimately passes
47:55
on the virus to humans may
47:57
need to first encounter another creature
47:59
infected with the virus. and this
48:01
could be anything like a spider
48:04
or take or some sort of
48:06
other insect. And it may also
48:08
be that the bat can only
48:10
contract the virus in one particular
48:13
way, like through a bite. So
48:15
for example, if a bat is
48:17
bitten by a spider that has
48:20
this virus, it then becomes a
48:22
reservoir for the virus. and then
48:24
it can pass on this virus
48:26
through contact with humans and actually
48:29
be humans either interacting. With the
48:31
bad itself or it's interacting with the bat
48:33
guano cause we all just wanna play a
48:35
map bad exactly how help it. But again
48:37
like I said sometimes it looks like dirt.
48:40
Yasuo know imagine situations are people are in
48:42
this cave and kid cave they're walking around.
48:44
drink I saw walls me another make in
48:46
a car and they're like oh I got
48:49
a bit of espresso on the counter at
48:51
one we gotta write songs President on espressos
48:53
I'm Ben amp know. the thing is since
48:55
this breakthrough in two thousand and seven when
48:58
they kind of really able to put. A
49:00
lot of these pieces together. Scientists
49:02
have determined that the Marburg virus
49:04
doesn't seem to change or evolve
49:06
very much if at all, and
49:09
that stability suggests that the fire
49:11
S has a hard time reproducing
49:13
and co and considering how deadly
49:15
the Marburg Virus is, that's really
49:17
good news because it means that
49:19
it is rare. And the thing
49:21
is though, if you happened, subject
49:23
yourself to the right or in
49:25
this case wrong environment where the
49:28
virus can thrive like dark. Try.
49:30
Caves like the Kid and Cave
49:32
you may be opening yourself up
49:34
to a world of hurt as
49:36
numerous scientific studies and advances have
49:39
shown that the soil found within
49:41
ten years kid in Caves contains
49:43
the Marburg Virus. That's not always
49:45
says it is and now like
49:48
I said Kim Cave is believed
49:50
to sort of be you were
49:52
this virus has originated. It's sort
49:54
of like ground Zero is you
49:57
will but some scientists even see
49:59
arise that. Maybe Ebola itself also
50:01
originates from Kid Him Cave. Really.
50:03
Although he bowlers origins are still
50:06
a source of debate, he can't
50:08
really know for sure where these
50:10
things come from behind. Way, even
50:12
though you're just discovering it at
50:15
doesn't mean it has been around.
50:17
These things have probably been around
50:19
for thousands, thousands, if not millions
50:22
of years. Yeah, totally. Words is
50:24
becoming aware that exactly. Regardless of
50:26
that. now that we know that
50:29
dark, dry caves. Can be a
50:31
breeding ground for these deadly
50:33
viruses. The Kenyan authorities have
50:35
advised visitors to avoid kid.
50:37
I'm cave at all costs.
50:40
However, Despite this warning,
50:42
Kid Him Cave has become a
50:44
hotspot for daredevils and thrill seekers,
50:46
knowing who are seemingly more than
50:48
willing to gamble with their lives
50:50
for a little bit of excitement,
50:53
job or like yeah, diver youtube
50:55
video that like eight hundred people
50:57
will log ride? Hell yeah. So
50:59
it's pretty sad to say that
51:01
if people continue to fuck around,
51:03
they're gonna find out. Mend it
51:06
would just be a matter of
51:08
time before kid I'm Cave. Claims
51:10
it's and next victim. that's
51:12
when. Any way, that is
51:14
the story of Kid Him
51:16
Cave. Ak a the Hell
51:19
hole. Ak a the deadliest
51:21
keys in the world. Yikes!
51:23
And now I would just
51:25
like to thank my sauces.
51:27
Hey thank you to Atlas
51:29
obscura.com for their entry on
51:31
Kid Him Cave. Thanks to
51:33
a Real Clear science.com for
51:35
the article Ebola, Marburg and
51:37
a Real life Cave of
51:39
Death. Written by Ross Pomeroy
51:42
and published October Fourteenth: Twenty
51:44
fourteen thanks to Herald Mail
51:46
media.com for the article Lloyd
51:48
Waters Kid M Cave is
51:50
a place where evil lurks
51:52
that was published on November
51:54
Fifteenth. Two thousand and Fourteen
51:56
thanks to Storm Chaser.see A
51:58
for their blah. The entry on
52:00
Kid Him Cave This is a person
52:02
who had gone there just to like
52:04
explore. They claim they were bitten by
52:07
an Egyptian for about their nearly yeah
52:09
on early now but anyway you could
52:11
go check that out. In you want
52:13
to dig a little bit deeper. Okay
52:15
supporters and so horny their i'm A
52:17
Happy Life Ah has either determines like
52:19
Finland Audibly yeah audibly There's a real
52:21
likes thin line between horny and discuss
52:23
the rides around there. Any eat a
52:25
podcast format said I'm that line gets
52:27
blicher. I spend a lot of time
52:29
there honey. The as the say
52:31
that anyway he's a good movie.
52:33
God thank you as well to
52:36
Perceptive travel.com for the article Adventures
52:38
in Kenya Visiting the hot zone
52:40
of Kitten Cave That was the
52:42
blogspot or the blog and mean
52:44
by Mark. Ask when his the
52:47
person I talked about that almost
52:49
maybe died yeah but didn't thankfully.
52:51
But yeah yeah sorry. Now there's
52:53
another well and there is a
52:56
you Tube video by Doctor Ben
52:58
Miles called the Most Dangerous. Cave
53:00
In The World. This is about Kill Them
53:02
Cavers Published on every twenty two thousand and
53:04
Twenty three and this is a really great
53:06
video if you want to get a little
53:09
bit deeper into the scientific aspects of this
53:11
cave, which I do. Yeah, he breaks it
53:13
down in a really super digestible way. I'm
53:15
don't really know what I'm talking about when
53:17
it comes to a lot of the scientific
53:19
stuff so I didn't wanna just regurgitate. Everything
53:21
he was talking about are totally but he
53:23
goes a little bit deeper and explaining how
53:26
like these tests were done on some of
53:28
the animals in the insects that they. Collect
53:30
it from the cave and really
53:32
super interesting so definitely recommend checking
53:34
it out. Cool things as well.
53:36
To I Fell science.com for the
53:38
article didn't cave elephants go deep
53:40
into came to mind at night
53:42
and that was written by a
53:45
key core ill and published July
53:47
Twelve Two thousand, Twenty Three thanks
53:49
to rancor.com Fi article kid I'm
53:51
Cave called the Cave of Death
53:53
is possibly one of the most
53:55
dangerous places on Earth that was
53:57
written by Patrick Thornton on May
53:59
Eighth, Twenty Twenty Three thanks to
54:01
Education dot National Geographic dot Org
54:03
for their article seeking the source
54:06
of Ebola that was published on
54:08
in July of Two Thousand and
54:10
Fifteen Thanks to C D C
54:12
Dot Gov for the and tree
54:14
chronological chronology of Marburg Hammer graphic
54:16
birth Hammer and her her more
54:18
Paycheck Fever l pray to say
54:20
like you're horny will come on
54:22
a hammer hey didn't who they
54:24
are, uber outbreaks and then finally
54:26
thanks to N C B I
54:29
Dot N L. M.n I H.gov
54:31
for and the article Marburg Virus
54:33
in Fruit Bat Kenya that is
54:35
an acronym for something. Let me
54:37
just give a T a straight
54:39
analysis. Fine, I'll open up the
54:41
with. I like the ambiguity. It sounds
54:43
like a drug. The anointed mean
54:45
like it sounds like one of
54:47
those I synthetic party drugs that you
54:49
hear about on like a Vice
54:51
documentary. Totally. I like our nobody's
54:53
to meme or meow meow anymore. They're
54:56
all doom and of a bird
54:58
dog. Gov. Ah but basically. The
55:00
National Library of Medicine and the National
55:02
Center for Biotechnology Information or have there
55:04
you go get it to his answer.
55:06
oh I see I figured as much
55:09
city And and then of course is
55:11
the book the Hot Zone Only which
55:13
I have not read. Apparently it's not
55:15
fiction but then they use pseudonyms. so
55:17
many latino take it with a grain
55:20
of salt. I guess to another there
55:22
are things you thailand welcome that was
55:24
disgusting I know arrange. Oh and by
55:26
the way the ban is not one
55:28
know about it. Glonass. Bats. are
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Today I am going to be
57:57
talking about the murder of shallow
57:59
craft. Do you notice want? I will.
58:01
I do not know her and hair
58:03
while I'm you do murder. Hella craft
58:05
spot that's more of an art. Say
58:07
yeah and that's a T L L
58:09
A Mrs H E L L E
58:12
Very different. Yeah exactly. Anyway I'm not
58:14
to be law random as well but
58:16
you know the movie Fargo? Oh
58:18
yeah okay well this one my ring
58:20
a bell than because it turns out
58:22
this case is said to have inspired
58:24
one of the most infamous scenes from
58:26
that movie. So even if you don't
58:28
know the case per se him you
58:30
may nothing's inspired by of A and
58:32
I'll leave that up to your imagination
58:34
until we get into as I mean
58:37
they will say that I know of
58:39
Fargo Br I have not watched Florida
58:41
I haven't watched Fargo either. The close
58:43
to that I've ever com is like
58:45
an episode of Catfish where everyone was
58:47
from Fargo. So I feel a
58:49
kind of eyes totally yeah. Zoc
58:51
knit sweaters and funny accents? Yeah
58:53
and everyone fucking each other's self.
58:57
Allah Crafts Before she was How a
58:59
craft her name was Hello Lord Nielsen.
59:01
She was born on July seventh of
59:03
nineteen Forty seven and a Charlatan Lund
59:06
Denmark. I am so sorry to ordain
59:08
his friends out there. I really tried
59:10
it. A Charlatan Lund have a trial
59:12
Unless sounds delicious. It's as sounds like
59:14
a desert I know anyone. Not a
59:17
lot of biographical information out there on
59:19
how his early life but we do
59:21
know that she would come to train
59:23
as a flight attendant and this was
59:26
a career paths. Which ultimately brought her
59:28
over to the Usa to wear. Okay
59:30
yes and it was on this path
59:32
of like career and life where she
59:34
met the man who would later become
59:36
her husband and he at the time
59:38
when they mad was training to be
59:40
a commercial pilot. His name was Richard
59:42
Craft. Oh my God. Love in the
59:44
Sky. You know right meant to be
59:46
And when was this happening? This is
59:48
like what the Sixty Oh does a
59:50
bad time for planes. Planes are crashing
59:52
all over the blade I know, but
59:54
you also have a fierce Pan Am
59:56
vibes is true. Yeah, at least the art
59:58
direction was dead Menominee. I really,
1:00:00
they had to do that. They had
1:00:03
to entice people to want to fly
1:00:05
because has, yeah, it was so dangerous.
1:00:07
At least you could die in Luxor,
1:00:09
Exactly where. Yeah, you're probably going to
1:00:12
Final Destination, but you'll look sexy and
1:00:14
you'll have orders his own out and
1:00:16
you can smoke Anyway, they started seeing
1:00:18
each other in Nineteen Sixty Nine An
1:00:21
hour. but a half a decade or
1:00:23
so. I once they broke into their
1:00:25
respective fields. The couple with Marisa. This
1:00:27
was in Nineteen Seventy Five. Planes
1:00:30
are like a little bit better
1:00:32
that a little bit better hundred
1:00:34
whatever. At that point they relocated
1:00:36
to Newtown, Connecticut. now New Town.
1:00:38
It's a town obviously to he
1:00:41
can now on and the despite
1:00:43
being in Connecticut, actually resides within
1:00:45
the New York Metropolitan area. Oh
1:00:47
I find that interesting. Items Jalili
1:00:49
and I write: I didn't know
1:00:51
New York. When. Into Can that?
1:00:53
I guess it's like the Tri State area. Yeah,
1:00:55
that's why it's like the metropolitan area as I
1:00:57
mean less I'm in New Jersey is part of
1:01:00
like the New York after fourteen years. The vibe.
1:01:02
You know on ninety day fiance how like whenever
1:01:04
Darcy has to do something, she goes to New
1:01:06
York. Yeah, it's kind of like.like I guess they're
1:01:08
just close enough. It out of you likes to
1:01:10
pretend that you live in New York, but it
1:01:13
honestly liver you live in Connecticut? Yes, I like
1:01:15
living in Hamilton and being closer. Answer on oh
1:01:17
did I come in and out wherever you are
1:01:19
totally you live in How to New York? I'm
1:01:21
I live in Toronto? Yeah, exactly. So anyway
1:01:23
it's it's a town it's made up
1:01:25
of about thirty thousand residents is and
1:01:28
are some as he may or may
1:01:30
not know if from last year's as
1:01:32
it's actually home to Sandy Hook Elementary
1:01:34
which allow was the scene of a
1:01:36
brutal spree soothing that resulted in the
1:01:38
deaths of twenty children and six staff
1:01:40
numbers at Sandy Hook Elementary or find
1:01:43
December fourteenth of Twenty Twelve as it
1:01:45
that long ago already. yeah I also
1:01:47
didn't realize that happened to my birthdays.
1:01:49
Oh yeah that is Reimer so distracted
1:01:51
on those days. yeah obviously I know
1:01:53
right? not that I like have not
1:01:56
fully paid attention to like Sandy Hook
1:01:58
and like you know. Held
1:02:00
space and all that kind of stuff
1:02:02
by yeah, I didn't realize that was
1:02:04
the exact date the runway. On a
1:02:06
lighter note, if you nasty you may
1:02:08
Also known Newtown, Connecticut as the birthplace
1:02:10
of scrabble. Oh really gotta three real
1:02:12
hose out there scrabble. His leg is
1:02:14
the greatest sport game of all time.
1:02:16
It's for the real one Young and
1:02:18
for hello and her husband. New Town
1:02:20
near how they called it home. Yeah.
1:02:23
It wasn't just the birthplace of Scoble
1:02:25
Baby, it was the birthplace of their
1:02:27
life. Together, they would move there, they
1:02:29
would buy a home. They would have
1:02:31
three children: Andrew, Thomas, Christina, A
1:02:33
to Thomas increased by like to think that
1:02:35
they came up with it through a scrabble
1:02:37
game and I was I would kind of
1:02:39
wondering i know right your i try to
1:02:41
think of be like anagram of each other's
1:02:43
get see the wheels turning out to try
1:02:45
to connected to scrabble a year I now
1:02:47
racist but anyway as they raise their family
1:02:49
Hello continued to work as a flight attendant
1:02:51
which was great for anybody in the skies
1:02:53
at the time because Hello was said to
1:02:55
be like an absolute boss at her job
1:02:58
and I'm not just talking in terms of
1:03:00
like company structure I see was really good.
1:03:02
She spoke for languages. He was a total
1:03:04
people person. Folks loved are absolutely. that's
1:03:06
it. Like it is hard to become
1:03:08
a flight attendant. Looking at owning really
1:03:10
people realise how difficult it really and
1:03:12
sack than people they were taken. So
1:03:14
much said his yeah sexism absolutely handle
1:03:17
do by him. But the fact that
1:03:19
she was also like from Denmark and
1:03:21
was able to land the gig in
1:03:23
the United States like I'm deathly would
1:03:25
be some fierce competition. So I do
1:03:27
not doubt for a second that she
1:03:29
was a bomb ass bitch at her
1:03:31
job. Exactly Yeah, we. Me mad most
1:03:34
apparently upon hi how you call your
1:03:36
grandma bomb as bad exactly one knows.
1:03:38
Anyways, aside from her ferocity of work,
1:03:40
it was also said that Allah also
1:03:43
continued on her press or professional paths
1:03:45
while raising a family. not as because
1:03:47
the love of her job, but instead
1:03:50
because of a said that Richard was
1:03:52
a little bit of a scrooge make
1:03:54
dark when he came to spreading at
1:03:56
his ample paycheck and hey yeah, you
1:03:59
like mine. The or he was
1:04:01
making at least like a healthy six
1:04:03
figures has been super stingy with that.
1:04:05
Ah, which was a bit surprising when
1:04:08
you have a cat from the outside
1:04:10
because he wasn't exactly living in the
1:04:12
lap of luxury like he was honestly
1:04:15
a bit of workaholic. Okay, so yeah,
1:04:17
it seemed a little bit weird up
1:04:19
from stacked on top of his duties
1:04:22
as a pilot. Richard also got into
1:04:24
law enforcement part time of what part
1:04:26
time I know what to vibrate was.
1:04:29
He was. Even. Said to respond to
1:04:31
calls while off duty like in plain
1:04:33
which was a complete and utter overstep.
1:04:35
I yeah yeah, but like he was
1:04:37
that kind of guy. Like how Beauty
1:04:39
K also just happened to be a
1:04:41
dog catcher. You know what I mean.
1:04:43
A yes or no no, aired over
1:04:45
achiever and that hideaway like year. your
1:04:47
little bit suspicious. yeah I'm I don't
1:04:49
care where you fall on the a
1:04:51
cab spectrum. In terms of this conversation,
1:04:53
I think we can all just agree
1:04:55
that this is some red flag. These
1:04:57
behaviors up. it is is a you
1:04:59
probably. Just sits at home in front of
1:05:02
the scanner, just listens yeah and figures at
1:05:04
a way to in certain sell and ignores
1:05:06
his family race. He left it at the
1:05:08
end of a day though people just chalked
1:05:10
it up to his lab know fuck and
1:05:12
passion for justice I suppose. I mean well
1:05:15
though, Hella was left to foot the bill
1:05:17
for things like family vacations and all that
1:05:19
other stuff. Yes, he was out there making
1:05:21
to pay tax and she was literally like
1:05:23
having to work to be able to like
1:05:25
do things with her family. that is super
1:05:28
fucking shady. I hire sharing a life. Together
1:05:30
you have children together and like he's
1:05:32
I'm sure going on these vacations do
1:05:35
yeah and here helping know he's not
1:05:37
which then brings up a whole other
1:05:39
crop. His suspicions about where the money
1:05:42
is really going gray and it turns
1:05:44
out it was going somewhere because during
1:05:46
the entire relationship Hella held the believe
1:05:49
Said Richard was. Very.
1:05:51
Likely fooling around with other women on her
1:05:53
alone. It was basically a kind of like
1:05:55
known factor there in the open so he
1:05:57
was basically be a sugar daddy to everybody.
1:06:00
The people who he was actually a
1:06:02
daddy coming like a Wendy Williams his
1:06:04
ex husband kind of situation. except he
1:06:06
didn't like fully have somebody in another
1:06:08
house pregnant but I like he traveled
1:06:10
for work. hello more or less believed
1:06:12
that he was at they're Hooking Up
1:06:14
with Women while on the Road and
1:06:16
Spoiler alert. She was totally right about
1:06:18
that. like hi Her suspicions were true,
1:06:20
Richard was a fucking dog on top
1:06:22
of all of his city isms and
1:06:24
reportedly he told people that he wanted
1:06:26
to leave hello way earlier but only
1:06:28
stayed with her because she got pregnant.
1:06:30
And the was too late for them to
1:06:32
get an abortion. Oh okay, cool. So it's
1:06:34
her fault and I'll get like it's is
1:06:36
year dick and your sperm that me that
1:06:39
baby happen. Bitch with any devotee. more time.
1:06:41
Yeah, what to do? some are now. like
1:06:43
I said, hello. had her suspicions, but unfortunately
1:06:45
before any of this could be addressed life
1:06:47
through the couple a rather distracting curveball because
1:06:49
the thing as like if things had been
1:06:52
kind of cope ascetic for a while I'm
1:06:54
sure she would have been able to walk
1:06:56
on him earlier, but unfortunately they got thrown
1:06:58
in medical emergency and nineteen Eighty Four. When
1:07:01
Crafts or Site when Richard Craft was diagnosed
1:07:03
with colon cancer. Oh my gosh, he's not
1:07:05
cool enough me to refer to him by
1:07:07
his last name. Ah, now he's a Deuce.
1:07:10
It's no joke, despite the fact that I
1:07:12
really do want to make a joke given
1:07:14
how much of a cancerous asshole he has
1:07:16
proven to be as a human being. But
1:07:18
I digress. I will not make the job
1:07:21
now making the joke. Yeah, exactly it cause
1:07:23
it is a pretty grim diagnosis. He was
1:07:25
year or two percent chance of survival. You
1:07:27
know he had children. That does suck. but
1:07:30
somehow. Through the powers of hell, fire
1:07:32
and toxic masculinity, he was able to
1:07:34
pull through what he wrote that two
1:07:36
percent into the sunset and more not
1:07:38
into the sunset. That would kind of
1:07:40
indicate that he died, but the point
1:07:42
is Richard liked it and went into
1:07:45
remission tan and of course hello was
1:07:47
by his side during the entire process.
1:07:49
Here's a question or see. Have different
1:07:51
his medical bills to or is he
1:07:53
able to take her that paid don't
1:07:55
believe she was running as medical bills
1:07:58
and of on and send and. If
1:08:00
he was it would have been mentioned
1:08:02
by i see was really having to
1:08:04
do at all sure and the whole
1:08:06
time Richard never relented on be the
1:08:08
absolute. Fucking. Worse really?
1:08:11
If they give you like steer a death in
1:08:13
the face. Like nose to nose. yeah
1:08:15
Grim Reaper and maybe I should break
1:08:17
it off with all of my liaisons
1:08:19
been? No, fortunately he doesn't he was
1:08:21
sacked. Worry no no no Go is
1:08:23
probably taking this as a sign from
1:08:25
god is like why must be doing
1:08:27
something right? Yeah so maybe I should
1:08:29
go and than have more affairs. Ding
1:08:31
ding bangla kind of what he does
1:08:33
go either. Ah, his shitty behavior only
1:08:35
ramps up past this point and honestly
1:08:37
it would just be had a boiling
1:08:39
point cause there's only so many places
1:08:41
one can really go from there yet.
1:08:43
So by Nineteen eighty six
1:08:45
after a of strange long
1:08:47
distance phone calls been discovered
1:08:49
by Hella and then mysterious
1:08:52
Christmas gift been purchased, fire
1:08:54
answered in our ah hella
1:08:56
Just had enough of his
1:08:58
said and she was like
1:09:00
there's just enough proof here
1:09:02
like I. Am. Not saying
1:09:04
the skin of real you know and
1:09:06
Richard did not take it well are
1:09:08
reportedly he got physical with her, which
1:09:10
was said to be a tactic that
1:09:12
he started to employ more frequently as
1:09:14
the years went on. Know? yeah. So
1:09:16
after the dust settled, hello to Hook
1:09:18
Back channels to really kick start the
1:09:20
end of her marriage to Richer Yes,
1:09:22
he was. Done. She was
1:09:24
be in the H B I see
1:09:27
exactly So by the fall of Banks
1:09:29
maybe six hello began meeting with a
1:09:31
divorce attorney and even hired a private
1:09:33
investigator a Man in Chief Mayo to
1:09:35
keep an eye on Richard. And you
1:09:37
know, also, to gather some intel on
1:09:39
his rather abundant infidelity Will Jaeger. she's
1:09:42
gonna take his ass to tear. Yeah,
1:09:44
and the hills are alive with sound
1:09:46
of Richard banging other women out there
1:09:48
in the open south. Of course, it
1:09:50
wouldn't take long for Keys to have
1:09:52
photo evidence of Richard. Going out on dates
1:09:54
with a woman in New Jersey who was later
1:09:57
identified as a flight attendant? Of course or not,
1:09:59
you said a. Woman named New Jersey or
1:10:01
a woman name's New Jersey. I'm sure she's out
1:10:03
there somewhere. There is a woman named New Jersey
1:10:05
at the I would like to thank and the
1:10:08
I'd like to think that she was raised in
1:10:10
New Jersey to sleep, babe and bond. I'm fitness
1:10:12
and hotel a babe who named her daughter Bond
1:10:14
I ask her. Been. On that was
1:10:16
Heyman for. Now anyway
1:10:18
they got caught kissing on sell or and
1:10:21
I was just about all the proof that
1:10:23
one would need and a case like this
1:10:25
like hell aside was looking strong and the
1:10:27
day was just drawing nearer when she can
1:10:29
officially dump his ass and and really not
1:10:31
have to look back on at the thing
1:10:34
is though at the same time hello all
1:10:36
side apprehension on how talking to Richard about
1:10:38
the entire thing would go given the fact
1:10:40
that even in some of the most but
1:10:42
now conversations he to just volatile of the
1:10:45
drop of a hat. Sounds like it. Yeah
1:10:47
exactly so she was like even though I
1:10:49
have nothing but proof here and even nothing
1:10:51
but am on my side he's probably still
1:10:53
gonna take this like a big city baby
1:10:55
and she was just like I don't know
1:10:57
how to best protect myself walking into this
1:10:59
price but she knew that the day was
1:11:01
coming in that she was and have to
1:11:03
find a way to approach him. With all
1:11:06
of this there was even have reported incidents
1:11:08
are instance leading up to our the events
1:11:10
of the are talking about were hello told
1:11:12
her friends that have something were to happen
1:11:14
to her like not to is seen. It
1:11:16
was an accident. like it was really
1:11:18
starting to get to that point. like
1:11:20
that is telling and deeply unsettling. Absolutely
1:11:22
few to even have to consider having
1:11:24
those conversations, not even just like with
1:11:26
yourself bundled with someone else. See out
1:11:29
loud you are in a bad situation.
1:11:31
but that's the thing. This is fall
1:11:33
of nights needy sex and she just
1:11:35
has all of the stuff kind of
1:11:37
piling up on her plate and susan
1:11:39
like, okay well I'm on. cut things
1:11:41
off and if something happens it is
1:11:43
not an accident And this leads us
1:11:45
to. November Nineteen Eighty Six, where it
1:11:48
seems like hallows, Finally ready to get
1:11:50
the ball rolling on the public face
1:11:52
and side of the divorce on the
1:11:54
eighteenth of that month, after touching back
1:11:56
down home in Connecticut from a flight
1:11:59
to Frankfurt West. The Money Hello had
1:12:01
actually shared with some of her cabin
1:12:03
coworkers that she's gonna tell Richard upon
1:12:05
returning that she was leaving him once
1:12:07
and for all who at the time
1:12:09
at you as they're getting ready to
1:12:11
touchdown in Connecticut. She was expressing concern
1:12:13
about like keeping her job to support
1:12:15
the kids who should lead she be
1:12:17
caring for throughout the separation, the course
1:12:19
and furthermore she was concerned i Richard
1:12:21
medium the like track her down because
1:12:23
I guess he had had past experience
1:12:25
doing tracking in relation to work. Oh
1:12:27
great so he's a stalker I are
1:12:29
now early. Well yeah our like he has
1:12:31
some kind of detective work on his resume
1:12:33
down there. So anyway as the dude had
1:12:36
lived a thousand lives and she was like
1:12:38
i don't know how I'm going to be
1:12:40
able to like protect myself from have right
1:12:42
the thing as oh by the time that
1:12:44
they ended up touching down in what was
1:12:46
a budding snowstorm, hello was secure in her
1:12:49
toys she told her coworkers who dropped her
1:12:51
off at home from the flight isn't that
1:12:53
she was going to tell Richard as soon
1:12:55
as she got an the thing as doubt
1:12:57
that day November eighteenth of Nineteen Eighty Six
1:12:59
in. The early hours of the snowstorm.
1:13:01
Those were the last moments that anybody
1:13:04
saw Hello alive from her outside circle
1:13:06
disarm. It hit Connecticut later that night,
1:13:08
knocking off power to the crafts as
1:13:10
well as other families and Richard Wood
1:13:12
latest children up in the early morning
1:13:14
hours to shuttle them to his sister's
1:13:16
place who had power. When Richard called
1:13:19
his sister, he said that Hello would
1:13:21
be there to, but when they arrived,
1:13:23
she was not with them, right? Instead,
1:13:25
just Richard, the kids and their live
1:13:27
in nanny. Richard told his sister that.
1:13:30
And a while and the kids that hell
1:13:32
had actually stayed behind and that she would
1:13:34
reconnect with them. leader like she would drive
1:13:36
up on around, but Spoiler Alert never did.
1:13:39
From there it just became a slow roll
1:13:41
out of realization for folks around them that
1:13:43
something was up and Hello was missing race.
1:13:45
Her coworkers/friends also found this notably chilling, giving
1:13:48
what they knew about like what Hello was
1:13:50
going to be doing when she got home
1:13:52
and also given the fact that she's clearly
1:13:54
said if she'd gone missing, it was not
1:13:57
a mistake for a They also thought it
1:13:59
was unclear. The replica of her given the
1:14:01
fact that she had just been talking about how
1:14:03
she would not want to fuck up you know,
1:14:05
like anything with her johnson because she was gonna
1:14:07
have to be with the sole breadwinner for her
1:14:10
kids and then. right? Off the
1:14:12
bat, she's missing work, see able to
1:14:14
like this doesn't really add up. This
1:14:16
is not the Halloween know like we
1:14:18
want answer. It's red Flag city A
1:14:20
exactly. So They start asking questions and
1:14:22
Richard is more than happy to offer
1:14:24
up explanations albeit. Differing. Ones
1:14:26
I have, yeah depending on when you spoke
1:14:29
to him. So he began by telling people
1:14:31
that he just straight up didn't know where
1:14:33
hello was and he didn't seem concerned. Oh,
1:14:35
and any said that she had gone back
1:14:38
to Denmark to visit her mother, who was
1:14:40
ill. Ah, however, there was no proof of
1:14:42
that and when some of How's friends reached
1:14:44
out to her mother just to confirm the
1:14:47
story because it sounded a bit far fetched
1:14:49
here, they were able to confirm that Hella
1:14:51
had not made the international trip back home.
1:14:53
And furthermore, her mother wasn't good health. so.
1:14:56
She would have no reason to go back
1:14:58
to. At least that wasn't the reason why
1:15:00
she was. No, it was alive from all
1:15:02
angles. And then when confronted with the lie,
1:15:04
Richard once again switched up his story, claiming
1:15:07
that hello was actually vacationing in the Canary
1:15:09
Islands. Girl, I mean I know, like a
1:15:11
flight attendant. Probably you know, flies and travels
1:15:13
more than your average person. but still. Yeah,
1:15:15
you think you know where you're fucking wife
1:15:17
is? Yeah, and it's like, oh, the person
1:15:20
or brands my household assist Taking the international
1:15:22
vacation? I just forgotten. I just thought that
1:15:24
they were going somewhere else International. A high.
1:15:26
Sierra is one of easy thing for someone
1:15:28
to forget right? But I once again it
1:15:30
was bowl and as folks started to talk
1:15:33
and with the stories that they had been
1:15:35
getting from Richard and sharing them between each
1:15:37
other it was clear that he was just
1:15:39
all over the map and from this point
1:15:41
Heloise friends hired a private investigator to look
1:15:43
into things because they just were not able
1:15:45
to trust Richard Wright and any have to
1:15:48
remember he's a part time cop to even
1:15:50
though you like what what others less system
1:15:52
says he have it it a play like
1:15:54
what else is he manipulated exactly. So. This
1:15:56
private investigator ended up speaking to
1:15:58
the Crafts family. The live in
1:16:01
nanny who mentioned that after how
1:16:03
his disappearance a weird stain just
1:16:05
happened to pop up on the
1:16:07
floor in the bedroom. wow I've
1:16:09
got dark grapefruit size stay in
1:16:11
popped up on the carpet in
1:16:13
the bedroom after Hella just you
1:16:15
know where on a mystery vacation
1:16:17
and nobody knew where she was.
1:16:19
Ray and then for some reason
1:16:21
the carpet where the same was
1:16:23
was cut out. Out I was
1:16:25
never an auspicious at all I know will
1:16:27
know on. and also there is the matter
1:16:30
of Richard buying a large freezer on November
1:16:32
sixteenth, Chino the day before how his return
1:16:34
ah which also shortly thereafter disappeared without any
1:16:36
trade. Hoadley normal freezers com freezers go out
1:16:39
so loosely and you know what even more
1:16:41
normal given all of kid also bought a
1:16:43
chainsaw during that time and he also had
1:16:46
his name as it turns out at like
1:16:48
does what the P I finds out he
1:16:50
has his name on the rental the U
1:16:52
Haul in a wood chipper from November. Twentieth
1:16:55
just two days after Hallows disappear. Oh,
1:16:57
isn't that Us law? random? Oh, it's
1:16:59
just such a random coincidence you must
1:17:01
really cutting down trees. Maybe he was
1:17:03
getting into force? Siri Y no Funny
1:17:05
fact. I think he was. Yes it.
1:17:07
And you know, Even. Funnier,
1:17:10
If you'll love this. it took three
1:17:12
weeks for her to be registered as
1:17:14
missing. so what's and always just disappeared
1:17:16
and even even filers Innocent person just
1:17:18
as funny as plumped for gets everything
1:17:20
wearing any. Why would he? Why would
1:17:22
he report her missing if she was
1:17:24
a visiting her sick mom in Denmark
1:17:26
in the Canary Islands. Exactly? And he's
1:17:28
got all the heavy machinery to rant.
1:17:30
I mean he uses his mind is
1:17:32
else we know what he wanted to
1:17:34
the he wanted to surprise her. Oh
1:17:36
yeah I like a home renovation when
1:17:38
she came back for ah the Canary.
1:17:40
Islands in Denmark probably. And then he
1:17:42
would just Tippett. Mack and
1:17:44
one on Caesar as a police
1:17:47
will get involved and a forensic
1:17:49
team would examine the family home
1:17:51
to check for any traces. This
1:17:53
investigation ended up happening on December
1:17:55
Twenty Sixth of Nineteen Eighty Six.
1:17:57
Ah and mama! They found their
1:17:59
trees. Despite the previously torn up
1:18:01
carpet, they actually some blood evidence in
1:18:03
the couple's room on the bed frame
1:18:05
and I'm sure Richard was just shocked
1:18:07
by that. Ah ha consider. He had
1:18:09
also painstakingly redecorated the room in the
1:18:12
days following hello going missing some courses,
1:18:14
a bulky linens, and all that stuff.
1:18:16
Oh sure, he was like, how did
1:18:18
I buy Bloody Women The cluster So
1:18:20
we're going to return them right away.
1:18:22
I hate that. Yeah, the real kicker
1:18:24
that was when the police found the
1:18:26
receipts for the offer mentioned in Holland
1:18:28
Wood Chipper Rentals from the twentieth. Cause
1:18:30
I'd like to imagine that even there
1:18:32
were like do that's a bit on
1:18:34
the now with her right? Well honestly
1:18:36
the bulls. I don't stop there because
1:18:38
shortly after these discoveries are made in
1:18:41
the Craft family home a local manning
1:18:43
Joseph High and would reach out to
1:18:45
the police and share kind of strange
1:18:47
stating that he it had a soon
1:18:49
as after Hellish Disappear ends and this
1:18:51
is up near lake Or which as
1:18:53
name suggests was a lake from the
1:18:55
area and. With names
1:18:57
just as well as the name suggests
1:18:59
that sounds like it's a late from
1:19:01
another plan as he at while he
1:19:03
does the as aura more is zed
1:19:06
oh a are yeah yeah I know
1:19:08
of in a sex pedal with that
1:19:10
name that's about it. but anyway it
1:19:12
sounds like something from a power rangers
1:19:14
mother know it's not arm and the
1:19:16
at a local lake. ah and is
1:19:18
the guy joseph Hein who called it
1:19:20
an athlete drives the snowplows so that's
1:19:22
kind of why he was like up
1:19:24
in about a weird hours but yeah
1:19:26
kids are that he was driving in
1:19:28
the early hours of the twentieth and
1:19:30
this is when he saw a rental
1:19:32
truck parked close to the source of
1:19:35
the lake and attached to the back
1:19:37
of a rental truck to so happened
1:19:39
to be a wood chipper. really normal
1:19:41
and not suspicious that all exactly So
1:19:43
sila don't know about that and then
1:19:45
the cops were basically like he on
1:19:47
can you take us to where he
1:19:49
saw that would chipper would not be
1:19:51
cool and it did that and man
1:19:53
they've had a major discovery because outside
1:19:55
about the wood. Chips. that they found to
1:19:57
straight up all over the ground. They also sounds.
1:20:00
The ounces of bodily tissue from
1:20:02
a human, a portion of a
1:20:04
some bone chips, only a fingernail
1:20:06
with pink polish on it, a
1:20:09
little under twenty seven hundred bleach
1:20:11
blonde hair, the crowd of a
1:20:13
tooth and women's underwear. Caesar's right?
1:20:16
Yeah, aka just what you would
1:20:18
expect if somebody had been put
1:20:20
through a fucking wood chipper. Yeah.
1:20:23
Murder. confetti, exactly. Yeah, actually. and
1:20:25
it again was harrowing to say
1:20:27
the least or not. And the
1:20:30
discoveries. Because they also happened to
1:20:32
find a chainsaw with also to so happened
1:20:34
to have some blonde hair stuck in the
1:20:36
teeth of it and then i severely on
1:20:38
number of braided away but the chainsaw from
1:20:40
him it's foggy was out there in the
1:20:42
open he was thrown to the bottom of
1:20:45
the fucking lake. luckily they were able to
1:20:47
spot it and pull it out yeah like
1:20:49
just Red flags city one has yes when
1:20:51
we the chainsaw was sent to allowed to
1:20:53
see if they recover the serial number the
1:20:55
tooth crowned I was found that the waterside
1:20:57
was sent off to be matched to dental.
1:21:00
Records because even though these discoveries
1:21:02
are food for the soul of
1:21:04
investigations are still nobody. therefore no
1:21:06
clear murder charge to go forward
1:21:08
on just yet. I mean a
1:21:10
at excuse my ignorance, but how
1:21:12
else does one person literally get
1:21:14
popped if not murdered? Wow does
1:21:16
nothing. It's nineteen Eighty Six, they're
1:21:18
still working a Dna. Answers are
1:21:20
not coming quick but the thing
1:21:23
is shortly after the new your
1:21:25
head like once it becomes nice
1:21:27
nearly seven a game changing break
1:21:29
would come. In. The form of a
1:21:31
hit from the dental lab who
1:21:33
were able to link the crown
1:21:35
that they found at the Lakeside
1:21:37
two hours from dental records of
1:21:39
a positive Id on the teeth
1:21:42
led them to be able to
1:21:44
issue a death certificate officially for
1:21:46
Hell off. On January Thirteenth of
1:21:48
Nineteen Eighty Seventh and Wants to
1:21:50
Die was issued. They were finally
1:21:52
able to sweeping on Richard and
1:21:54
arrest him for her murder. Perfect
1:21:56
Yeah, Although he reportedly tried to
1:21:58
saw the process, The same at he
1:22:01
was tired and would take care of
1:22:03
them. Wait why do you like of rest?
1:22:05
Yeah I'm overlays hi I'm were coming to
1:22:07
arrest you. You killed your wife and his
1:22:10
kids high as in the like. Okay
1:22:12
with and go have an app and then
1:22:14
you're going to jail Like sound. What the
1:22:16
fuck Who the fuck is this guy Like
1:22:18
a non violent person I'm a punch
1:22:20
with pockets and right what a look and
1:22:23
they were like soccer Chicken strips is a
1:22:25
rest of him. Put him in custody on
1:22:27
a seven hundred thousand dollar bond on
1:22:29
opposite bomb. You know what I wish
1:22:31
that they could upon him in their
1:22:33
the Seven Thousand Dollar Bond Murder as yeah
1:22:36
But anyway the chainsaw ended up getting positively
1:22:38
I did shortly thereafter as the one that
1:22:40
Richard had recently bought at a local hardware
1:22:42
store on the U Haul that he had
1:22:45
also rented out know the one that was
1:22:47
like clearly in his name and has returned
1:22:49
also was found to have a clump the
1:22:52
and as I turned out to be human
1:22:54
blood into self the evidence or sacking up
1:22:56
at this point Yes but on Richard side
1:22:58
he was like. No. Body, no
1:23:01
murder girl. All can prove nothing.
1:23:03
That's it out. This guy had
1:23:05
no illusions of grandeur and mom,
1:23:07
nobody. They found your wife's fucking
1:23:09
round bitch. They found her finger
1:23:11
nail, parts of her body scattered
1:23:13
everywhere. And you have the gall
1:23:15
to say that there's no bodies.
1:23:17
Yes, there's no intact bodies because
1:23:19
you threw in a fucking wood
1:23:21
chipper. Did yeah, you the Lubitsch.
1:23:23
Anyway, Richard Wood Nanci Trial. Until
1:23:25
May have Nineteen Eighty Eight been.
1:23:27
In the meantime, there was quite
1:23:29
a case. Proud to the guns Town!
1:23:32
Ah ha It's clearly laid out how
1:23:34
that the prosecution thought things had happened.
1:23:36
It was believe that after hello confronted
1:23:38
Richard likely attacked her in their room
1:23:40
with a please flashlight that he had
1:23:42
free arm softer bludgeoning her to death
1:23:44
which would cause the carpet stain. They
1:23:47
believe that she was then put into
1:23:49
a freezer where she was state and
1:23:51
or where she stayed until she was
1:23:53
frozen enough to be transported to leagues
1:23:55
or in his rental van Zyl. Then
1:23:57
he used the chainsaw the color purple
1:24:00
the they believe which was and fed
1:24:02
through the woods. Shepherd for Zena you
1:24:04
don't want to put them and and
1:24:06
one knows fell swoop year get him
1:24:08
and little beds. But anyway to further
1:24:10
prove this investigators with end up doing
1:24:12
their own little experiment where they put
1:24:15
the carcass of a paper through a
1:24:17
similar simulation a high and a bone
1:24:19
fragments produced matched the kind of shape
1:24:21
and quality of those that were found
1:24:23
at the sight of. Lakes
1:24:25
or all. This was found right.
1:24:28
So this got presented at trial
1:24:30
and in his defense, Richard just
1:24:32
simply said hello, ran away. God
1:24:34
yeah, he's like nobody is. No,
1:24:36
I'm however, in a way am
1:24:38
I do this fucking guy? Yeah,
1:24:41
just given off. Well, that's a
1:24:43
thing. It sounds farfetched to us,
1:24:45
but it turns out it was
1:24:47
enough to sway at least wonder
1:24:49
what we know for sure wonder
1:24:51
because it seems they refused to
1:24:54
move forward and deliberation. After seventeen
1:24:56
hours a mistrial had to be
1:24:58
called. Swat has yet. The jury
1:25:00
deliberated for seventeen hours and one
1:25:02
person on the jury was like
1:25:04
I believe I'm I think she
1:25:07
ran away home and refused to
1:25:09
move forward like in any way,
1:25:11
shape or form. Oh my God.
1:25:13
Oh yeah, I miss trial ended
1:25:15
up having to be called. They're
1:25:17
like we can't The jury together
1:25:19
on this and another trial went
1:25:22
forward in like November of Nineteen
1:25:24
Eighty Nine. They were. Basically just
1:25:26
like given another take I guess
1:25:28
exactly like what the hell? Yeah.
1:25:30
So they got a different juri
1:25:32
and and honestly the second trial
1:25:34
was weighed quicker again ended up
1:25:37
getting a guilty verdict guy and
1:25:39
of out on November twenty first
1:25:41
and it was done and dusted
1:25:43
from their Richard Crafts was to
1:25:45
be imprisoned for the see above
1:25:47
future for the murder of Hello
1:25:50
Crafts. But I'm not even gonna
1:25:52
pretend like. That's. Where it
1:25:54
stops and cause baby. Fast.
1:25:57
Forward to January: Thirtieth.
1:26:00
Of twenty. Twenty.
1:26:03
The. Mother Fucker gets released
1:26:05
due to statutory good
1:26:07
time. What? A.
1:26:10
Statutory. Good time. I.
1:26:13
Like the sound of that. that sounds
1:26:15
weird as I off off, but it
1:26:17
essentially meant good behavior as he had
1:26:19
done a bunch of work. While.
1:26:21
He was in there and will
1:26:23
play for Can Do To Exactly
1:26:25
so he thought to be released
1:26:28
to live out a halfway house
1:26:30
in Bridgeport, Connecticut? What? Yep, so
1:26:32
he's out there. he's walk in
1:26:34
keys live in. He claims that
1:26:36
he never killed her again. Nobody
1:26:38
felt ill after all of this
1:26:40
time. mean just pleading a like
1:26:42
ignorance. well as you say innocence
1:26:44
but also ignorance both may as
1:26:46
well. What did like when of
1:26:48
that one of what it was kids think.
1:26:51
Do. We know we don't I mean maybe they're
1:26:53
probably not speaking very publicly about it. I
1:26:55
wouldn't necessarily my would want to associate myself
1:26:57
with it. I tried to find you know
1:26:59
statements from them can find any. Yeah, he
1:27:01
is out there in this growth motherfucker Cause
1:27:04
if you're listening, You. Can do
1:27:06
all jobs you want but the world knows
1:27:08
what you did. Yeah my hope is is
1:27:10
walk down a street one day and whoops
1:27:12
falls into a wood chipper. right? Oh that
1:27:15
would be so scissor and just and and
1:27:17
then and then the wood chipper stalls and
1:27:19
stops working and then he's I hang in
1:27:21
there in the wood chipper and then it's
1:27:23
It's like thirty minutes for them.on called the
1:27:26
Wood Chipper and unfinished, Tillingham sees as a
1:27:28
hast thou a slow death in a wood
1:27:30
chipper mood like out on. Or maybe the
1:27:32
people in medieval times have a riot and
1:27:34
announce our now. This fucking guy.
1:27:36
I hate him. right?
1:27:38
So mad like either. Whether even if you
1:27:40
think that you've got the world and like I'm
1:27:43
talking this guy know is not as we
1:27:45
listen. But it's like mother fucker. If you
1:27:47
are so deluded as you really think you've
1:27:49
got the robe on your side Legit. Understand that
1:27:51
what you did is so fucked up it
1:27:53
literally created one of the most fucked up
1:27:55
pop culture references. On
1:27:57
out and with for like this the reason.
1:28:00
The past. I mean yeah, like that's
1:28:02
the T people believe and like it's
1:28:04
even said like on their behind the
1:28:06
scenes like on the Dignity of Fargo
1:28:09
that the wood chipper death at the
1:28:11
end of Fargo is allegedly inspired by.
1:28:13
This case isn't you know? So one
1:28:15
a legacy. Yeah, what a legacy. The
1:28:18
have you may that he killed your
1:28:20
wife. That's what a took. This case
1:28:22
also hold the distinction of being the
1:28:24
first one featured or least featured on
1:28:27
the first episode of Forensic Files. Oh
1:28:29
shit yeah. I mean duty. Ding dong
1:28:31
Deadly dead at the app. Anyway, with
1:28:33
all that being said, that just about
1:28:35
covers the case of Hella Crafts murders.
1:28:38
Stay safe run would shippers and ass
1:28:40
holes with all I can say. hundred
1:28:42
percent that poor woman, my old a
1:28:44
force amalie settling all she wanted to
1:28:46
do. Was. Take care of her,
1:28:48
kids, have a good life, and not
1:28:51
get fucked around All right. That's not
1:28:53
really asking for very much now said.
1:28:55
She. Ruined. By. Richard Craft you
1:28:58
deck and I know is how. Listening
1:29:00
but as on the famous or sustained
1:29:02
The New York Times for a Campaign
1:29:04
seeks to Help slain women's children published
1:29:06
by Michael Free Talk on February eighth
1:29:08
of Nineteen Eighty Seven think the New
1:29:10
York Times as well for everything but
1:29:12
a body and a murder trial Published
1:29:14
by Neck For A Bow on May
1:29:16
Fifteenth, Nineteen Eighty Eight Think A D
1:29:18
P I Archives for housekeeper testifies and
1:29:21
murder case pups I'm are published on
1:29:23
March eleventh of Nineteen Eighty Seven. that
1:29:25
console to U T I are cause
1:29:27
for Dentist identifies teeth fragments as dead
1:29:29
Wife published on May twelfth of My
1:29:31
to Mediate think it's the needn't be
1:29:33
for Richard Crafts moves to homeless Shelter
1:29:35
for Veterans Posts by Andrew Gross Go
1:29:37
on a January thirtieth of Twenty Twenty.
1:29:39
Oh yeah, the halfway house he's moved
1:29:41
into, his one for veterans have fared
1:29:44
the eigen pretty old by that now,
1:29:46
right? Ah, I'm. Also.
1:29:48
Thank you to Hartford Courant, Far
1:29:50
Richer Craft notorious wood chipper murderer
1:29:52
released from prison Published by Christine
1:29:54
Dempsey on January Thirty First Twenty
1:29:56
Twenty Think a T W T
1:29:58
H or N H. Eight
1:30:00
for Wood Chipper Murderer Transferred from
1:30:02
prison move to homeless shelter for
1:30:04
Veterans in Bridgeport. Published on March
1:30:06
or January Thirty First of Twenty
1:30:09
Twenty. Thank you to the New
1:30:11
York Daily News for Wood Chipper
1:30:13
Murderer Richard Craps out of Prison
1:30:15
Published by Storm Gifford on January
1:30:17
Thirty First to Twenty Twenty. And
1:30:19
finally think it a boston.com for
1:30:21
Connecticut man who put life and
1:30:23
wood chipper release from prison twenty
1:30:25
years early. Published by Associated Press
1:30:27
on February First. Twenty Twenty. All
1:30:29
right. Ah, My blood pressure is definitely
1:30:32
were hired him how to select twenty
1:30:34
minutes ago. yeah oh sorry about that.
1:30:36
Ah didn't inputs into an early grave.
1:30:38
Their know you did it. but on
1:30:40
Ps. well mean we should move on
1:30:42
and listened. Yeah, let's move on to
1:30:44
him. talk about where we landed and
1:30:47
yeah okay well Tyler Magnitude, you're looking
1:30:49
to me. Take a breath, me, be
1:30:51
season and tell me what did you
1:30:53
learn today today? I learned that confidence
1:30:55
and delusions and get you very very
1:30:57
far at least within your own mind.
1:30:59
This. Guy really thought he had
1:31:02
everybody fooled me was lying this
1:31:04
way that way up and down
1:31:06
coming up with all kinds of
1:31:08
different reasons and he just thought.
1:31:11
He. Would get away with it. He thought
1:31:13
he was smarter than everybody else a been.
1:31:16
So I will say this confidence is good
1:31:18
to a degree by if you hit that
1:31:20
tipping point. You're. An asshole minnow.
1:31:22
So watch out, Watch out. Yeah,
1:31:24
keep yourselves and checks Baby I
1:31:27
love it. I well today I
1:31:29
learned that even if the world
1:31:31
is like hey baby you go
1:31:33
to that cave you do your
1:31:35
family's sake it out you know
1:31:37
what I mean or hi I'm
1:31:39
do your research and here you
1:31:41
know do you prep work? not
1:31:43
I victim blame or anything like
1:31:45
that. But sometimes even when the
1:31:47
world is give you nothing but
1:31:50
green lights it's still worthwhile. To
1:31:52
distill little bit extra due diligence,
1:31:54
pump the brakes a little bit.
1:31:56
Exactly like sometimes, anxiety is not
1:31:58
a bad thing. The roof invitees really
1:32:01
there to save her out. And yeah, anxiety reflex
1:32:03
is an ass because we do on some level
1:32:05
have to have a reflex and our body that
1:32:07
says you're being chased by a bear run away
1:32:10
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1:32:12
You don't want to go off when you're cooking
1:32:14
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1:32:16
them in the barracks. He says he don't run
1:32:19
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1:32:22
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1:32:24
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1:32:26
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not too far apart or you're almost
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in the same family your family members
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a group birthday exactly where Emily and
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Katie but you know out where separating
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April Thirteen. Him and Katie is going
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to be celebrating their birth on April
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sixteen and we love that for you.
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1:36:51
Blake. Mid April birthdays as a best
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time to have a birthday is not
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too hot is not too cold. it's
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a Goldilocks time it's just right exactly
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just saying it's a good times on
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born in December so you know I
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remember so often people ability on Snowden
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or you know ugh I'm going away.
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know school exams are over or they
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be like i don't like you fag.
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The relics little many things but
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it or like way more in
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the clear so have fun and
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have fun! Happy Birthday Emily and
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Katie Happy Birthday! Get some cake
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May I recommend a delicious tiramisu?
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it it goes your birthday or
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the lives of the animals you know
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this is somebody named Katie. The worst
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lot that mimicking people call me Taylor
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as like that not my name. Now
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ten four letters were settled there. I
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can't else not and stop trying to
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since? like what spooky season me I
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think maybe Halloween? other. Hi I
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