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happy that we got to live to

2:48

see the day that Jojo see was

2:50

collect goff failure. To

2:53

go A God you put remarked and

2:55

you record books baby. Our thoughts on

2:58

this. Along for the ages that's it.

3:00

Also See was has broken through the

3:02

underworld Rice Queen of the Underworld See

3:04

truly L Yeah he is basically Queen

3:07

of the damned at this point He

3:09

is a Casa See is ah. He's

3:11

the crow yeah see Robert Smith? yeah

3:13

I'm sources can be doing a club

3:16

tour with Secure Yard. Susie and the

3:18

band Seas are Like back and playing

3:20

shows. How about judges You are in

3:23

Susie Sue Co. Had Lima Oh yeah

3:25

has one could not open for the

3:27

other because the mean the equals yeah

3:30

I saw the movie. Thank.

3:32

You very much else. Has

3:34

equal amount of golf credits. The other

3:36

lists absolutely. Jojo see what does have

3:39

in that moment. She's twenty years old

3:41

now and she's like I'm not a

3:43

kid anymore and how am I going

3:45

to communicate that with the world? And

3:47

then they were like hanging out at

3:49

their parents' place and they're like Mad

3:51

Sound as kids that fits your mom's

3:53

Tiwari and is this is spiral from

3:56

there and I love to see it

3:58

happen. I like to think. By

4:00

putting so much energy like Jojo, see

4:02

why days and energy out into the

4:05

universe and me kind of will this

4:07

into existence? Yeah, to think that we

4:09

helped manifest this as a collective yeah

4:11

I know, like it. Just kind of

4:14

like mentally all came together and the

4:16

universe molded this new version of Jojo.

4:18

See you on our and it's because

4:21

of the energy that we've just like

4:23

in open propre project and really have

4:25

projecting yeah, proliferate and yards and perpetrating

4:27

everything. It's amazing. Arm and I love.

4:30

How Mass? To

4:33

server with her me than than things that

4:36

it is so funny how like I saw

4:38

an article of he desert was like dazed

4:40

beauty or something put it out for you

4:42

know to produce hip help the Cassie on

4:44

chairman of that ilk they'll put out a

4:47

thing be like golf fashion is back and

4:49

they were like a photo lineup no kidding

4:51

of like Susie's you ah fuck him I'll.

4:54

Randomly. In the crowley all share the

4:56

adding up to Jojo see what? You.

4:59

Know like there may been a Man

5:01

Center marathon? The boy and his. are

5:03

you know, like we don't want him

5:05

anymore? No, no, no Leno mail. I

5:08

mean opens up a space for Jojo.

5:10

See why? Well that's it. She's just

5:12

filling. Avoid? Yeah, exactly. And I mean

5:14

she's edgy now. She's got a song

5:16

with the word bitch in terms of

5:18

deaths. Yeah, exactly a dick in her

5:21

tongue out as interviews: Hi, I'm Irish

5:23

Disease Cyrus, Diana Bangor their offices. Her

5:25

bangers era. It really is. Yeah, this

5:27

is pretty fucking cool. Ah, Those were

5:29

here. People on it was fucking

5:32

here. It's incredibly entertaining because it's

5:34

like really what it is. It's

5:36

can't like pure, can't Because I

5:38

really do believe that Jojo See

5:41

were. Things. That she

5:43

is really on light the razor's

5:45

edge, not out. I mean just

5:47

like bad ass legs located the

5:49

valleys ruin. Never stop in fight

5:52

burn down at Seretse. Holy!

5:55

I added steals at the to

5:57

lox. It's plate play. Whoa. Yeah.

6:00

Now yeah that is Hidden Fortress It

6:02

anyway I can to be here either

6:04

like I think that they are like

6:06

I'm hidden the dark side. I know

6:08

why we all deserve a dark matter.

6:10

The sole so early that up Joe

6:12

to at it I'm here for at

6:14

leas fucking headliners Fast Bring it back

6:16

as yeah. It's

6:18

Headbangers Ball hosted by Joseph. See

6:21

you are baby. I buy a

6:23

ticket. Oh baby. I'll tune and

6:25

our our anywhere. Enough about that

6:28

on his golf news and cultures.

6:31

Ah we gotta get into the show. So

6:33

hi everyone welcome You know Lydia. We literally

6:35

been talking butcher does. he was golf face

6:37

for the last three minutes. So if you

6:39

don't know the deal with this show them

6:41

sorry you're a bit late my ass. You

6:43

know how we're going to be. I target

6:46

city cables who we have to talk the

6:48

drag race Them get the speak he said

6:50

to get into unless you have anything from

6:52

a talk of the first nothing else I

6:54

want to talk about. So let's get into

6:56

drag race. Okay it's beautiful So we have

6:58

Season sixteen Episode four T. A joke about.

7:01

and they were doing a book challenge. Yeah,

7:03

Ideal. I like. I like these challenges. They

7:05

done them a few times in the past

7:07

and I mean they're always really interesting because

7:09

again, it's one of those granting challenges. So

7:11

it's kind of an opportunity for the queen's

7:13

to sort of like exhibit a different side

7:16

of themselves. maybe of funnier side of themselves?

7:18

may be a more serious side of themselves.

7:20

It's really kind of up to them to

7:22

sort of direct this challenge in the direction

7:24

they want to go. Totally. I loved and

7:26

I loved it. And season two when we

7:28

got Dreams of Gold. In Thailand on Lps.

7:31

Spoilers abound and if he don't care skip

7:33

ahead three minutes. But yeah let's get into

7:35

a d of high points and low points.

7:37

I mean my high point is the fact

7:39

that and him feel wind has gone through

7:41

to the fine all right and never had

7:43

to lip sync. oh I didn't realize at

7:45

all in any kind of contacts never even

7:47

like as like a top two of the

7:50

week lip sync she's never had Do it

7:52

in Now going to find out of the

7:54

finale the and remain on the we have.

7:56

We really don't know what the finale going

7:58

to be. Yeah right. Apparently they

8:00

fit it into a live finale this year

8:02

I have questioned yeah that's true. Apparently I

8:04

was have like digging around on the internet

8:06

trying to figure it out. Yeah I guess

8:09

maybe they filmed the finale because of the

8:11

like the writers' strike that was happening, many

8:13

memory that it was going to you know

8:15

go on and on and on on and

8:17

maybe affect the finale. So they just kind

8:19

of. Pivoted. Yeah I don't

8:21

really know any cause they are also not

8:24

doing the traditional reunion like they had than

8:26

yeah be a lip sync smackdown. Was

8:28

he drawn into whatever is going to be

8:30

yeah but that's next week so you're

8:32

high point was an empty a getting through

8:34

yeah financially as especially I will say

8:36

the reason why is because she was so

8:39

nervous going into this challenge and was really

8:41

doubting herself because it was a writing

8:43

challenge and know as to be difficult if

8:45

like english is not your first language

8:47

right and then if you on top of

8:50

that. Have at challenges communicating period where they

8:52

seemed like they do or at least they

8:54

perceive themselves to have chow and like a

8:56

issues communicating the outer. just nice to see

8:58

them overcome it. Absolutely. It's a lot to

9:00

take on Zero. I'm on same page as

9:02

you in terms of high point but do

9:05

you have a discernible point? I want to

9:07

speak up because I know mine. What's your

9:09

ah no offense to anybody. I don't know

9:11

why it bothered me but that many challenge

9:13

gave me V x I was just some

9:15

handle them would have a simple. They had

9:17

a lip sync underwater and part of me

9:19

was like. Oh you're going to a

9:22

dunk tank. That's cute. But now they

9:24

had to go face down in Atlanta.

9:26

A of trough of water. Ah buffet

9:29

trough of water is I will will

9:31

throw at the bottom or whatever the

9:33

camera setup was. but the water was

9:35

there for like a foot and then

9:38

there was the camera and it was

9:40

just a lot of face in water.

9:42

Kind of like the tank burrow cover,

9:45

but. I got ivy

9:47

it as cover burned in my memory. I walk

9:49

buster as a kid but. It's just

9:51

it was just i don't know something about

9:53

it is not that ah disgusted me but

9:55

the more that I was still has like

9:58

i just don't wanna look at this. Anymore.

10:00

You're right now a kind of just because

10:02

it was just like oh you're only like

10:04

submerged your face he has I don't know.

10:07

there's a discipline loathsome were like no young

10:09

like to come in from the rain and

10:11

you're a little bit wet Minute: Dislike: It's

10:14

almost more uncomfortable than just being. I completely

10:16

so yeah because it's just like you're a

10:18

little bit wet and then you kinda like

10:20

it. See her in a weird way guy.

10:23

I don't know. It just kind of felt

10:25

like torture. Yeah, like some kind of like

10:27

medieval moment. Yeah, I agree. This challenge give

10:29

me swamp our walks in with him, Swamp

10:32

outside. That's when I feel like you're trying

10:34

to describe south. that was my will pointed

10:36

out. what? yeah I can of to agree

10:39

with you there. yeah but also know my

10:41

other low point was okay. a road pharaoh

10:43

looked really good him. but then I saw

10:45

the pants. Why

10:47

the hell what would help of those be

10:50

his alma mater No other than that like

10:52

he was serving he was gearing at the

10:54

top was cute but that I saw like

10:56

the fall the full locked him and was

10:58

like are no the see through panel. Has

11:00

really work for me. I didn't know, was

11:02

not expecting mono or we got them we

11:04

did. So I guess maybe beyond that weird

11:06

water challenge may be wrote of Heroes Passer

11:09

bys. Also, how come he didn't go back

11:11

to see the queens or untucked? He's like

11:13

the only guest judge who didn't unknowing of

11:15

the spend time with yes Madison which is

11:17

like fucking gray. I guess that's why I

11:20

didn't really ponder. And yeah I wasn't complain

11:22

when I do like will happen there. Yeah

11:24

anyway yeah no real low points. I guess

11:26

it kind of sucks for Que that this

11:28

is like the first time. Since season eight,

11:30

they didn't do a final four hundred went

11:32

home. But I'm not

11:35

that bothered him as the crack and and

11:37

was yeah you whatever I expect the questioning

11:39

that yes or no mad know yeah it

11:41

was about it's been a good one. looking

11:43

forward to the next week other the longer

11:45

we get interview. Things. The more into for

11:47

hims been planted. What's. Happening Glad it was have

11:49

that the time I become the para todo.

11:52

I just want to see everyone having fun

11:54

yet and enjoying their birthday party and there's

11:56

nothing wrong with that exactly. Absolutely nothing wrong,

11:59

fat or it. But if you have

12:01

other feelings, if you want to see

12:03

people cry their birthday party, please let

12:05

us now let us know what your

12:07

thoughts and feelings are. Let us know

12:09

who you think is going to eat.

12:11

Eat it. Ah sold on our will

12:13

report back next week and try to

12:15

give you any definitive answers. Will see

12:17

who looks sad at the reunion. but

12:19

ah yes, vote will put down drag

12:21

race talk for an hour of we

12:23

that's and Spooky Gables at the At

12:26

and to the do If that's okay,

12:28

who are it? So I don't think

12:30

that this is going to be a

12:32

particularly long line, but it's kind of

12:34

heart warming and at least given the

12:36

subject matter that I'm going to be

12:38

talking about today, I feel like it's

12:40

kind of find to start off on

12:42

a wacky at heartwarming that I'm into

12:44

it and ran so at work right?

12:46

Yeah I'm plus we just started asking

12:48

else in the bowels of hell with

12:50

Jojo See was.period in your we started

12:52

off in the of the utter darkness

12:54

he i was very intense. yeah it

12:57

it was to a Gothic sensibilities and

12:59

inner darkness as like Mars black is

13:01

to dark paint and know the inky

13:03

ist of the into day exactly as

13:05

it's so odd to the story here

13:07

and it actually has like echoes of

13:09

Homeward Bound and remember are Bound Oh

13:11

hell yeah that was one of my

13:13

favorite movies growing up in the nineties.

13:15

Okay, I love the shit out of

13:17

ammo. Well get ready to find one

13:19

are your favorite news pieces of Twenty

13:21

Twenty Four than because this motherfucker has

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guide. I'll miss said lassie sassine class

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seats. Who are they? Chance, Shadow, and

13:28

Sassy? That's right. Yeah, last, a classy.

13:30

And Sassy also known as ah

13:32

but it has them all wrapped

13:34

up and wine that so there

13:36

is this dog named nice Guy

13:39

and they haven't Recently gone on

13:41

a two thousand mile adventure. Whoa!

13:43

And ranging from all the way

13:46

down in California too. Gross point

13:48

miss again like as suburb of

13:50

Detroit so basically the bottom of

13:53

the states to the top of

13:55

the state's a. So

13:58

reasonably Police in. Harper

14:00

Woods which is like in that the

14:02

Detroit area responded to a call about

14:05

a stray dog that was found in

14:07

the streets. It was a Terrier Max

14:09

and it was ultimately taken into an

14:12

animal welfare group from the area isn't

14:14

who checked it for microchips and it

14:16

turned out that it was a dog

14:19

that had been registered as missing link

14:21

in the summer of Twenty Twenty three

14:23

from California named Nice Guy The hell

14:26

Yeah. So scamming the microchip offered up

14:28

the information about their owners. But of

14:30

course this was like a little bit

14:32

more than the usual. you know, found

14:34

a stray dog situation because this dog

14:37

was two thousand miles away from it's

14:39

fucking home right? So then the questions

14:41

begin. Have a fuck, did it get

14:43

here like did at Walk all the

14:45

way to Michigan? Well only the dog

14:47

truly knows but what they're thinking as

14:49

I maybe it was picked up or

14:51

stolen and then sold to somebody and

14:53

that's how it ended up in Michigan

14:55

and be heard and he was. Last

14:57

summer Mischka had gotten loose from their

15:00

owners. Place of work out he was

15:02

owned by the human family which are

15:04

probably who on but it it's almost

15:06

like as if a dog wrote the

15:09

article is like my and men's my

15:11

room in Zoc Larry that like a

15:13

dog baby speak vital thing is it

15:16

a ran out of the family garage

15:18

lost it's a line and never returned

15:20

and even of the family had their

15:23

information on missed his color. It seems

15:25

like whoever found them didn't end up

15:27

calling the Family Usa now. Doesn't.

15:31

Necessarily bode well for whoever that was. no

15:33

as a little bit sorceress less like. Also,

15:35

if it was somebody who just happened to

15:37

find a stray dog usually would do what

15:39

ultimately happened, turn them over to like animal

15:41

welfare and they would look for a chip

15:43

and then boom, he would have been reunited

15:45

a lot sooner exactly. And the unspoken thing,

15:47

the thing that I've kind of been missing

15:49

so far is the fact that when they

15:51

sound nice car two thousand miles away he

15:54

wasn't my they're like oh shit this dog

15:56

have been sleeping in the pits, literally, just

15:58

always been taken care of right. The

16:00

been living in our home around a mean

16:02

yeah, I'm still little bit too all camp

16:04

for you know, because we haven't lived on

16:06

the streets for the better part of the

16:08

last year. I like walk two thousand mile.

16:11

That's a trip and a half an hour.

16:13

My know we joke about homeward Bound, but

16:15

it's not like that said really happens that

16:17

much in this world one else. And as

16:19

it's not like the dog fucking came home,

16:21

they ended up just going and going and

16:24

going. And that's also a bit outside of

16:26

dogs nature. But anyway, yeah dogs are not

16:28

monoliths or anything like that. but. Just given

16:30

the context clues they believe that somebody

16:32

probably pick them up in and tried

16:35

to make a buck off of them.

16:37

and at the end of the day

16:39

the family is just so happy to

16:41

have Mysql back. Sorry if somebody was

16:43

accidentally sold this dog and didn't know

16:46

that it was a stolen dog etc.

16:48

Yeah, but ah yeah I it's just

16:50

good at the start of back with

16:52

their original owner is absolutely that sucks

16:54

but his mouth fucking wild life while

16:57

he would suck to lose your dog

16:59

but just how. Much of a mind

17:01

bender would it be to them? Get a

17:03

call and have somebody be like we found

17:05

your dog Two thousand miles we look on

17:08

the other side of the country and not

17:10

like right away. This is about like six

17:12

months later. more me and yeah. so by

17:15

that point you've already kind of like grieved

17:17

the the loss of this animal was you

17:19

have a nuclear family member right? Exactly. Any

17:21

kind of just kind of come to terms

17:24

with the fact that they're not there anymore.

17:26

but then boom their their yeah. so anyway

17:28

happy that Mishegas home. Mommy for

17:30

the families. Hopefully nobody is out there

17:32

student eyes cause that is is fucked

17:35

up and I don't want to think

17:37

about it but you know it's happening

17:39

in the throw. People are fucked up.

17:41

A man will disappoint you. So thank

17:43

you to my source or because they

17:45

will not disappoint me is Eighteen News

17:47

and they wrote a California Diagnosing since

17:50

the Summer Is Found in Michigan. It

17:52

was published by Ed White on April

17:54

sixth of Twenty Twenty Four Rag and

17:56

into it. I'm into at that. We

17:58

were daffy on getting. The as while

18:00

the whole hell of a will not

18:02

they do not leave our sights now

18:05

know I'm are they are always on

18:07

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To. Move on, let's move on. Before

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Yes okay is so today Johnny

20:19

Guess what we're going to be

20:21

though and why we're gonna be

20:23

visiting a K. Oh that's never

20:25

find. Usually it's not. Ah, as

20:28

this time are going to be

20:30

traveling to Kenya. Oh yeah to

20:32

visit Tim Cave. Okay, you know

20:34

her. no I don't but I'm

20:36

sure it is just gonna be

20:39

as heart wrenching and upsetting. Of

20:41

all the other caving stories, this

20:43

one. Is a little bit depressed.

20:45

Wasn't a magical cave? Know how?

20:48

have no students a ever magical

20:50

today though? It's this game is

20:52

actually kind of the opposite because

20:55

it is known as kid I'm

20:57

cave but it's also referred to

20:59

as the hell hole and that's

21:02

for a very very good reason

21:04

because according to some people can

21:06

Him Cave is the deadliest cave

21:09

in the world. but not necessarily

21:11

for the reasons you might suspect.

21:13

Okay now in Mount Elgon National

21:16

Park large extinct volcano known as

21:18

Mount Elgon Mom and it's It's

21:20

along the border between Kenya and

21:23

Uganda and their nestled on the

21:25

eastern side of this mountain Rage

21:27

is Clinton came alive as you

21:29

said mountain Roads Oh get into

21:32

it mama Firefighters and the mountain

21:34

of raise to I'm here I'm

21:36

well I'm sure a lot of

21:39

oh do ya and now is

21:41

the moment to expel it.for human

21:43

experience. And right yeah what is

21:45

it but a mountain of raid?

21:48

Absolutely no kidding cave is it

21:50

again the nestled into this mountain

21:52

but it's actually a petrified rain

21:54

forests and over eight thousand feet

21:56

above the base of Mount Elgon

21:59

in Kenya. It's believed

22:01

that about seven million years

22:03

ago when the volcanic Mount

22:05

Elgon was still active it

22:07

erupted and and ended up

22:09

burying the surrounding rain forest

22:11

in ass him At that

22:13

point in time to them

22:15

would have been submerged in

22:17

molten lava. but as the

22:20

earth cooled the cave reamers

22:22

Now this cave system is

22:24

pretty unique because over the

22:26

years it's actually got in

22:28

bigger Today the mouth. Of

22:30

the cave is about sixty feet

22:32

wide and extends at least six

22:34

hundred to seven hundred feet into

22:37

the mountains. And a big reason

22:39

why this cave has grown over

22:41

the years has to do with

22:43

the fact that it is a

22:46

natural salt mine. So inside the

22:48

cave there are a series of

22:50

scratch marks and for the longest

22:52

time no one knew who or

22:55

what was excavating the inside of

22:57

this came home early explorers of

22:59

Kill. Him Cave initially believed the

23:01

unusual markings on the cave walls were

23:04

from ancient Egyptians who are in the

23:06

cave of four stones and salt and

23:08

stuff. But then it was learned that

23:10

elephants were actually responsible for expanding the

23:13

depths of kid and came early. Yeah

23:15

so all of those scratch marks of

23:17

they thought were caused by humans are

23:20

actually caused by elephants is banging around

23:22

inside the cave with their to assess.

23:24

Can accuse it is like I know

23:27

that they are literally using the force

23:29

of their size. Term knock out a

23:31

Cave Auto? It's it's a fucking few.

23:34

It's impressive ass And for hundreds maybe

23:36

thousands of years elephants have been doing

23:38

this. They've been coming to to them

23:40

cave in the dead of night to

23:42

use it as a giant software. Oh

23:45

yeah, maybe we just like I said,

23:47

use their tusks to dig into the

23:49

wall they mind for assault In a

23:51

Gabi era I'm I lied to him

23:54

as another awful a scratch in the

23:56

bombs on the cave all the know.

23:58

Absolutely. Nuggets. Why not? Now and

24:00

this was you know it's people go

24:02

to Salt Rooms. Maybe this is like

24:05

the elephant unless I go overseas. So

24:07

good for their i'll have him long.

24:09

Yeah it probably is, but it's not

24:11

necessarily always good. Further, just l of

24:13

fit. Body. Oh yeah

24:15

I cause over time met some

24:18

with that. Some accents have happened

24:20

now basically because elephants are die

24:22

or know and meaning that they

24:25

like mostly awake during the day.

24:27

They don't really have good eyesight

24:29

in the dark and this is

24:32

a cave. It's pretty dark so

24:34

as a results a elephants some

24:36

times will run into a bit

24:39

of a disaster in the sense

24:41

that the younger elephants especially may

24:43

accidentally find themselves. Falling into

24:45

crevices in the king. And

24:48

sadly when this happens the usually

24:51

can't get out in the end

24:53

up dying now would be the

24:55

saddest thing to come across. Or

24:57

last year, right? Oh no no,

24:59

or because of this unfortunate fact

25:01

a kid, him Caves has become

25:03

somewhat of an elephant graveyard. Aha,

25:06

go at all. And I guess

25:08

even sometimes mummified remains can be

25:10

found at the bottom of the

25:12

crevices inside of this cave. And

25:15

I think mummified usually because it's

25:17

assault cave so it's particularly drives

25:19

particularly dart homes. know the composition?

25:21

Maybe he's a little bit different

25:23

depending on like exactly the environment

25:26

that there and they're just cured.

25:28

Yeah, certify Yeah, Element Charity is

25:30

do now. Regardless of this unfortunate

25:32

fact, elephants still visit the cave

25:34

because they're saw is just too

25:36

good be be yeah Obama. And

25:39

as a result of the elephants

25:41

going to the cave, they also

25:43

attract a host. of other wildlife

25:45

like monkeys, antelope, shrews, hygienist leopards

25:47

and and mom Malone who are

25:50

basically go into the cave to

25:52

consume the chunks of salt that

25:54

the elephants have left behind and

25:56

of course kid him cave being

25:59

a key. If is also home

26:01

to your typical cave dwellers like

26:03

bats, rats, spiders and them all

26:05

sorts of other insects and creepy

26:08

crawlers. And even though that might

26:10

give people the Icc couldn't keep

26:12

is incredibly beautiful it is the

26:14

have really. Liked. Of wash

26:16

area like the entrance of the cave

26:18

is just surrounded by like overgrowth and

26:20

then you go into the cave again

26:23

it's pretty big pretty why does not

26:25

those like scary Caesarea like on your

26:27

chest to slay now wheezing through the

26:29

thick enough for the elephants mama is

26:31

big enough for you. oh yeah I

26:33

mean if it's big enough for them

26:35

to get lost and die than hell

26:37

yeah that's the case for me. it's

26:39

of i. Hate that. Yeah,

26:41

you don't answer. We want to be

26:43

solar power Those that l I doubt

26:45

whether it's a real trade off, exactly.

26:48

But the thing is, this National Parks

26:50

is beautiful. It in of itself. Yeah,

26:52

So naturally, over the years human beings

26:54

have ventured into the cave. But.

26:57

Doing. So is incredibly risky

26:59

because despite it's alert despite

27:01

the beauty kid M Cave

27:04

is believed to be the

27:06

home of a ruthless killer.

27:09

Now back in the late seventies and

27:11

the early eighties there was a fifty

27:13

six year old Frenchman who was living

27:16

in Kenya. This man's name was never

27:18

made public though you may hear him

27:20

being referred to as Charles Monet. A

27:22

back in Nineteen Ninety Four and author

27:25

named Richard Preston released a novel called

27:27

the Hot Zone mean you've heard of

27:29

It's been turned into a Tv show

27:31

as well known but it's a non

27:34

fiction thriller that's written about the series

27:36

of events and in that the Frenchman

27:38

is given. The Suit and I'm

27:40

Charles Monet and in some articles

27:43

that you find on the Internet

27:45

that's been repeated. The thing is,

27:47

since that wasn't his real name,

27:49

I'm not going to continue to

27:52

refer to him as that. so

27:54

I'll just be referring to him

27:56

as the Frenchman. Okay now on

27:59

January first, Nineteen Eighty New Year's

28:01

Mother Fucking dare ah Frenchman decided

28:03

to visit Kim K's Now typically

28:05

when we talk about caves on

28:08

this podcast, this would be where

28:10

we would start to talk about

28:12

how he got trapped in things

28:15

went horribly horribly wrong. Yeah, totally.

28:17

However, this isn't one of those

28:19

stories are. Instead, after a few

28:21

hours of exploration, the Frenchman left

28:24

to them cave seemingly unscathed. Okay,

28:26

but little did he know. He.

28:28

Wasn't alone when he last

28:31

seven days after visiting the

28:33

cave, the Frenchman started experiencing

28:35

an onslaught of headaches that

28:37

he just couldn't shake. And

28:39

a short while later he

28:41

caught a fever. and then

28:44

three days later. So about

28:46

ten days after visiting the

28:48

case, this man began to

28:50

uncontrollably vol man. So then

28:52

he started to experience signs

28:55

of Malaysia and. Up

28:58

my Algeria. Out of my

29:00

now know who my Lg a male

29:02

oriented fibromyalgia. Yeah okay exactly. Although basically

29:04

his movements became really strange. Started as

29:07

my Malaysia baby doll baby doll baby

29:09

doll. far thank you so much Yeah

29:11

exactly he was dip in he was

29:14

death drop. Now he will limit again

29:16

for a lie as being passive aggressive

29:18

yes But the thing is and he

29:21

was suffering from a lot of aches

29:23

and pains he was having a hard

29:25

time moving, his muscles are really sore,

29:27

his face was. Feeling stiff and according

29:30

to those who knew him, his whole

29:32

personality was beginning to change. Now it

29:34

was pretty clear at this point that

29:37

the Frenchman needed some sort of help

29:39

and so some of his friends helped

29:41

him board a plane so that he

29:43

could go to the hospital in a

29:46

neuro be okay. But once he was

29:48

on board of this plane, he began

29:50

to farm. And but this time he

29:53

wasn't just vomit involvement, he was vomiting

29:55

up this like a viscous black will

29:57

lick when. It's reported that

29:59

he. Filling several barf bag with

30:01

the substance during the flight now

30:04

but then his know started to

30:06

bleed and it just wouldn't stop.

30:08

and the time the plane had

30:10

landed blood was just pouring out

30:12

of his face and so of

30:14

course he was rushed to the

30:16

and or oh be hospital in

30:18

attacks in like that Billie Eyeless

30:20

music video air either How Moon

30:23

car the thing is. Unfortunately by

30:25

the time the Frenchman was admitted

30:27

to the hospital it was already

30:29

too late. While sitting in

30:31

the waiting room, the man suddenly

30:33

keeled over it. He began to

30:36

vomit blood and then he fell

30:38

unconscious and before medical staff could

30:40

even intervene, blood began to seep

30:43

from it. Every orifice on his

30:45

body jokes and are your first

30:47

Their hair yeah eyes, nose, ears,

30:50

mouth, a whole be Athens and

30:52

he was jess off and like

30:54

very quickly just on the floor

30:57

lying in a pool of his

30:59

blood. Poured Guy? Yeah, and

31:01

despite attempts to resuscitate him,

31:04

the Frenchman ended up passing

31:06

away from him, but nobody

31:08

knew what had killed him.

31:11

Yeah, However, approximately nine days

31:13

later, one of the doctors

31:15

who attempted to resuscitate the

31:18

Frenchman had also fallen ill.

31:20

He began to develop similar

31:22

symptoms, and once again, nobody

31:25

knew why. Thank. Fully,

31:27

that doctor did receive treatment and

31:29

was able to make a full

31:31

recovery as a result. worker. but

31:34

the inquest into what had killed

31:36

the Frenchman had only just be

31:38

done. On. Tracing the French

31:40

Mans activities before his death, nothing

31:43

really seemed out of the ordinary

31:45

until it was learned that he

31:47

had spent some time in Kid

31:50

Him cave and so it was

31:52

suspected that his feet and the

31:54

cave for some how directly linked?

31:57

Sure ultimately that would be right.

32:00

Unfortunately, there would be little to

32:02

go off at the time and

32:04

it would be another seven years

32:06

before it hit him. Caved would

32:08

claim another life Now in Nineteen

32:10

eighty Seven, a fifteen year old

32:13

boy from Denmark hadn't visiting Kenya

32:15

with his family and one day

32:17

this young man decided to spend

32:19

a day in Mount Elgon National

32:21

Park. And as fate would have

32:23

it he this frolic through nature

32:25

would lead him to the belly

32:27

of kid. I'm cave. Now.

32:30

Soon after exploring the cave, this

32:32

teenager began to experience the same

32:34

symptoms that the Frenchman who visited

32:37

the cave seven years earlier had.

32:39

He developed a headache. He started

32:41

to vomit uncontrollably, his whole body

32:44

dropped, and very quickly his family

32:46

decided to seek medical attention. The

32:48

boy was emitted into Neuro be

32:51

hospital where he was live out

32:53

his final days. Despite aggressive treatment,

32:55

the young boy died eleven days

32:58

after entering kid on cave succumbing,

33:00

To the violence symptoms that just

33:02

ravished his body. Will Just like

33:05

the Frenchman, no one knew. What?

33:08

Had killed the Danish boys.

33:10

But the second consequential death

33:12

sparked an international investigation into

33:14

the deadly kid. I'm case.

33:16

So for now, in the

33:18

Spring of Nineteen Eighty Eight,

33:20

a joint Us and Kenyan

33:22

operation led by the United

33:24

States Army Medical Research Institute

33:26

of Infectious Disease began. Although

33:28

they didn't know what killed

33:30

the Frenchman and the Danish

33:32

boy, it was now suspected

33:34

that they had contracted some

33:36

sort of virus. During their time

33:38

inside of the cave so decked out

33:41

in their swank yes, biohazard A tired

33:43

or thank you yeah you know breathe

33:45

as molds. Yeah if you're gonna be

33:48

a biohazard else at the outfits I

33:50

might as well make a look good.

33:52

Me is all tie dye that ah

33:54

humans will tape or the i'm Sick

33:57

now that I'm Darts in their ah

33:59

Fit your. Hormonal birth? yeah Me: Go

34:01

to War Absolutely move would be safe

34:03

and sexy. Who says you can't be

34:05

both right? Yeah it reminds me of

34:07

our friend Sam who who worked at

34:09

a Tim Hortons him and got the

34:11

to war is over then took it

34:14

home and like Taylor to fucking rights

34:16

and she looks the best out all

34:18

of us you literally would put dark

34:20

them a sigh of and like a

34:22

made of said her body perfectly and

34:24

it's yeah yeah into the come into

34:26

dinner and look into like efforts are

34:28

very beautiful Be my. Why can't you

34:31

yeah to slick do better Yes,

34:33

an end and the country's thing.

34:35

Yeah, never told anybody she did.

34:37

I know, yeah for people were

34:39

just like why do I look

34:41

like shit is and why didn't

34:43

look so good right? It's smoke

34:45

and mirrors. Yeah, I'll smoke in

34:47

Iowa. that's drag mama is now.

34:49

But anyway, yeah this research team.

34:51

They went to the cave wearing

34:53

biohazard outfits, a maple, an army

34:55

I, one hundred percent high waisted

34:57

totally and they just descended into

34:59

the cave. To conduct a thorough

35:01

investigation now team members ended up

35:04

capturing and took samples from all

35:06

of the wildlife that they could

35:08

find in the cave and this

35:10

include at bats, birds, rodents, and

35:12

insects that were also living inside

35:15

the cave mitre sense that. This

35:18

also involved taking samples of

35:20

bat guano and the elephants.

35:22

These. So bad

35:24

one know i had to look up what this was

35:27

a limp it it's poop basically but in the same

35:29

way that like. A rabbit doesn't fully

35:31

digests their food. Have a bat also

35:33

doesn't So this bat guano kind of

35:35

looks more like dirt. Yeah, if you

35:37

didn't really know what you were looking

35:40

at, you think it was just dirty

35:42

nasty. I learned about it to be

35:44

a band called Guano Bats. Oh and.

35:47

I. Fucked up the Google search or her.

35:49

anyway. whether I was looking about Poop

35:51

will look, they they taught you. Sometimes

35:53

I know Ryan is not cool me

35:55

out. So basically they took all of

35:57

these samples from the cave and then

35:59

in an. Hemp to test how

36:01

contagious kill him cave was. I

36:03

don't like this fact, but they

36:05

did it mind. This ended up

36:08

leaving caged guinea pigs and monkeys

36:10

in and around the case just

36:12

to see if they would get

36:14

sick. Oh now, ah move. The

36:17

thing is, despite all of these

36:19

efforts, not a single trace of

36:21

a virus was found in any

36:23

of the samples that they collected.

36:26

End the caged animals thankfully never

36:28

got ill and car. Ultimately, this

36:30

and Nineteen Eighty Eight expedition was

36:32

considered a complete failure and add

36:35

it to the mystery of this

36:37

virus that seemingly disappeared without a

36:39

trace. Now. When this research

36:42

was happening to them, cave was

36:44

close to the public sure, but

36:46

afterwards the cave was open to

36:48

come on and water file a

36:50

really great yeah yeah. now. fast

36:53

forwarding a few years into Nineteen

36:55

Ninety Six. There was a conservation

36:57

biologists named Mark Asplund who had

36:59

an encounter with Kid Him Cave

37:02

after the local members of the

37:04

community told him about the Elephant

37:06

Mine made the move just like

37:08

oh My God this is. Amazing

37:11

elephants go there they might have

37:13

sought. You should go so far

37:15

so A with this recommendation Mark

37:17

the very next day went to

37:19

the cave with two other men

37:21

a priest and another conservationists mom

37:23

is priest I guess had a

37:25

phd in ancient languages Mark recounted

37:28

this would our no other priests

37:30

was there but he was there.

37:32

it's cool whatever whatever we're doing

37:34

saw ah anyway the and it

37:36

of traveling to Mount Elgon National

37:38

Park and they ended up. Visiting

37:41

kitten came now when they arrived

37:43

at the park there actually the

37:45

to armed guards who were assigned

37:47

to them and this was just

37:49

a basically protect them from wildlife

37:51

and these armed guards also served

37:53

as an escort who brought them

37:55

to the case of her. Now

37:57

a short while later they arrive.

38:00

That kid him cave and the

38:02

three men began to explore. And

38:04

because they were completely unaware of

38:06

the caves deadly reputation they did

38:09

this without a stitch of protective

38:11

gear. All yawns a nightmare. yeah

38:13

yeah just with their backpacks in

38:16

the t shirts and shorts and

38:18

the hiking boots. Salamander like Salty

38:20

was given a Lego the line

38:23

an idea. Now after this day

38:25

trip Marcus drop back off that

38:27

his tend to mean see require

38:30

safaris. So that movie basically like a place repeat.

38:32

It's kind of like a. A. Forest

38:34

Hotel how hackers are just like rent

38:36

out a tent. Now The owner of

38:38

this Safari named Jane Burnley actually ask

38:41

Mark how the trip was and then

38:43

she proceeded to tell him about a

38:45

relatively new book that was published just

38:48

two years prior and me. Jane ended

38:50

up pulling out a copy of the

38:52

book that I already mentioned the Hot

38:55

Zone and then handed it to Mark

38:57

and while she did this, he explained

38:59

that it was a book about the

39:01

too gruesome deaths associated with kid. M

39:04

T. Bama By now it was

39:06

nineteen Ninety Six and the cave

39:08

was believed to be a primary

39:10

source of one or more file

39:12

virus that concern but at this

39:14

point Marcus dislike. Now a warning

39:16

rise. but the whole fucking day

39:18

there and now I'm finding this

39:20

out. Yeah, totally yeah. so it

39:22

just kind of explain what a

39:24

file a virus is really quickly

39:27

are for to great band name

39:29

but aside from that I've no

39:31

idea of yeah it's a zoonotic

39:33

it which means. That this is

39:35

a virus that is transmitted from

39:37

animals to people and the two

39:39

most com and members of this

39:42

family The file of viruses are

39:44

the Ebola Virus and the Marburg

39:46

Virus of Her. And according to

39:48

the Cd see, the Marburg Virus

39:50

was discovered in Nineteen Sixty Seven

39:53

and the more common Ebola Virus

39:55

was discovered in Nineteen Seventy Six.

39:57

Okay Anderson, seen that the previously

39:59

mentioned one isn't good given the

40:01

company that A keeps ah like

40:04

the Marburg lead. Marburg Virus A

40:06

exactly ever Marburg Virus. Yeah, yeah

40:08

it's It's not as common as

40:10

the a Bowl of ice What

40:12

we will tell ya at it

40:15

in a little ban chortle fuck

40:17

you are. Yeah, basically these file

40:19

A viruses. There's no treatment for

40:21

either one of these diseases. About

40:23

medical intervention and care can increase

40:26

a person's chance of survival due

40:28

to increased awareness, education, and. Early

40:30

detection, the average mortality rate of

40:32

the A Bowl of Iris sits

40:35

at about fifty percent. Ah, Zola.

40:37

Great odd know. However, the mortality

40:40

rate of the Marburg Virus is

40:42

much worse really. To date, there

40:44

have been four hundred and sixty

40:47

seven documented cases of more bird,

40:49

and three hundred and seventy seven

40:51

of those people have died. And

40:54

yeah, Doc is the Marburg Virus

40:56

mortality rate of he percent Baja

40:58

and it's now believed. That

41:00

to them cave is where the

41:03

virus start at. Yale

41:05

now talk more about that and a

41:08

little bit But needless to say Mark

41:10

ask when was pretty stunned to hear

41:12

this new ah and he was just

41:15

completely shocked that nobody up until now

41:17

had warned him about the dangers associated

41:19

with Kim K's everything he had to

41:21

guard. Yeah that took him to the

41:24

case. He was like yeah really hit

41:26

me that my yeah, what's going on

41:28

and he had a whole community of

41:31

people being like you need to go

41:33

Halo two it finds herself. In

41:35

the Cayenne. But nobody mentioned

41:38

this really horrific history that

41:40

this cave happens to have

41:42

exactly now. Over

41:45

the next few days a mark

41:47

just read this book the Hot

41:49

Zone and just devoured every page

41:52

and then a few days after

41:54

that he started feeling ill and

41:56

he knew right away that something

41:58

was off color. Mark decided

42:01

to visit a local doctor and

42:03

after running a few tests, the

42:05

doctor concluded that everything was fine.

42:07

However, over the following week or

42:09

so, Marks symptoms worsened down. He

42:12

ended up going to the infamous

42:14

Neuro Be hospital the Don't Miss

42:16

their couldn't figure out to the

42:18

cause of the Marks symptoms. However,

42:20

Mark was given a prescription that

42:22

would help clear his body of

42:25

any parasites said he may be

42:27

hosting, but unfortunately that medication didn't

42:29

help either. Via a short while

42:31

later, Mark caught a flight to

42:33

see a tropical medicine specialist in

42:36

Cape Town in South Africa and

42:38

their mark learned that whatever was

42:40

wrong with him probably wasn't Marburg

42:43

or Ebola because he would have

42:45

already been dead by now. This

42:47

is what he was suffering from,

42:50

so that was a bit of

42:52

relief. However, the specialist in Cape

42:54

Town basically determined that Marcus probably

42:56

infected with some less severe viruses

42:59

season and suggested. That it didn't

43:01

really matter what viruses it

43:03

was, because there was nothing

43:05

that could be done about

43:07

it regardless. So after that

43:09

med, that medical advice, Mark

43:11

decided it was time to

43:13

return home to United States

43:16

to recuperate. Absolutely. And thankfully,

43:18

after about six months, he

43:20

made a full recovery really,

43:22

and was just incredibly thankful

43:24

that he managed to get

43:26

out of the scenario unscathed,

43:28

because had he gotten. The virus

43:30

that the Frenchman, that dutch boy got. He.

43:33

Would have done. Absolutely. He

43:35

would have been far. Yeah,

43:37

so all of things considered,

43:39

Mark was incredibly lucky to

43:41

be alive now. Three years

43:43

after Marks close encounter in

43:45

Nineteen Ninety Nine, the Democratic

43:47

Republic of Congo experienced a

43:49

deadly outbreak of the Marburg

43:51

Virus. Okay, the viruses origin

43:54

in this case was eventually

43:56

traced to minds in the

43:58

area where people worked. Near

44:00

one another in the dark and

44:02

this was not just a dark

44:04

environment, but also a dry environment.

44:07

Minute break was obviously devastating, but

44:09

it also confirmed to researchers that

44:11

the Marburg Virus seem to thrive

44:13

in these dark and dry, cavernous

44:16

environment totally. but it still wasn't

44:18

immediately obvious how this virus was

44:20

able to spread to human beings.

44:23

said they were like, okay, Environments.

44:26

Like kitten cave, this is where

44:28

this virus seems to be able

44:30

to survive. Yeah, but how is

44:32

it being transferred? Being as the

44:35

Tropic by actually I was being

44:37

transferred to human being. The biology

44:39

is not biology exactly so these

44:41

clues are coming in but the

44:44

not all connecting. But then in

44:46

two thousand and seven and neighboring

44:48

cave in Uganda would divulge some

44:50

secret of her in the wake

44:53

of an outbreak amongst minors working

44:55

at. Could talk a cave. Scientists

44:57

detected a virus in a local

45:00

eat chips in fruit bat on

45:02

say yeah and after series of

45:04

tests it was determined that the

45:07

Egyptian fruit bat that was captured

45:09

was a reservoir for of the

45:11

Marburg virus him this same species

45:14

of bad they came to find

45:16

out occasionally visit that kid him

45:18

cave and so it was now

45:21

more or less confirmed that the

45:23

Frenchman and the Dutch boy died.

45:25

Of the Marburg virus that had been

45:28

passed on to them by eg. Ups

45:30

in a fruit bat, the are saved

45:32

up. that's of plan my know and

45:35

will get a little bit into how

45:37

this whole thing works now. Basically, these

45:39

findings were first published hello. it was

45:42

discovered in two thousand and Seven. They

45:44

weren't published until Two thousand and Ten

45:46

in an article by the National Library

45:48

of Medicine in the United States. and

45:51

it was really the first time that

45:53

hard data implicated bats as a major.

45:55

Natural reservoir for the

45:58

Marburg virus now. Unfortunately,

46:01

As cute as they are, bats

46:03

are see the Little Pretoria and

46:05

this is because their tolerance for

46:07

viruses is much higher then basically

46:09

any other mammal on earth. Yes,

46:12

and that has the lot to

46:14

do with the fact that the

46:16

eat a lot of things like

46:18

insects that it happened to carry

46:21

a lot of these viruses. Or

46:23

yeah, so basically, if bats didn't

46:25

have this natural tolerance for viruses,

46:27

they simply wouldn't exist because as

46:29

soon. As the eat all of

46:32

these insects they would have this virus

46:34

and it would just kill them and

46:36

they be extinct. and they just bats

46:38

wouldn't be bad sore of instead they're

46:41

like little garbage. Me exactly hungry little

46:43

bottom for disease really put in an

46:45

even me see our yeah exactly exactly

46:48

so yeah bats just because of how

46:50

these live and where they live in

46:52

what they eat. their just immune to

46:55

so many viruses. but that doesn't mean

46:57

that they aren't carriers of viruses because

46:59

that's another. Unfortunate back fact, because

47:02

they are, it's not susceptible

47:04

to these viruses. They're really

47:06

good at spreading dire And

47:08

also bats are the only

47:10

mammal that can fly which

47:12

makes their ability to spread

47:14

these viruses even battery power

47:16

outages, flying all over the

47:18

place to pooping all over

47:20

the place they're migrating is

47:22

a bad situation. In now,

47:24

it's a bad situation and

47:26

it's a bad situation, and

47:28

least for humans and mammals

47:30

who. Can end up coming into

47:32

contact with these viruses Now of

47:34

course, every viruses different, but thankfully

47:37

the Marburg virus is pretty elusive.

47:39

Some scientists believe that the Marburg

47:41

virus may require to hosts before

47:43

it can be transferred to human,

47:46

so this is something they're still

47:48

not entirely sure we're Basically, if

47:50

that is the case, this means

47:52

that the bat who ultimately passes

47:55

on the virus to humans may

47:57

need to first encounter another creature

47:59

infected with the virus. and this

48:01

could be anything like a spider

48:04

or take or some sort of

48:06

other insect. And it may also

48:08

be that the bat can only

48:10

contract the virus in one particular

48:13

way, like through a bite. So

48:15

for example, if a bat is

48:17

bitten by a spider that has

48:20

this virus, it then becomes a

48:22

reservoir for the virus. and then

48:24

it can pass on this virus

48:26

through contact with humans and actually

48:29

be humans either interacting. With the

48:31

bad itself or it's interacting with the bat

48:33

guano cause we all just wanna play a

48:35

map bad exactly how help it. But again

48:37

like I said sometimes it looks like dirt.

48:40

Yasuo know imagine situations are people are in

48:42

this cave and kid cave they're walking around.

48:44

drink I saw walls me another make in

48:46

a car and they're like oh I got

48:49

a bit of espresso on the counter at

48:51

one we gotta write songs President on espressos

48:53

I'm Ben amp know. the thing is since

48:55

this breakthrough in two thousand and seven when

48:58

they kind of really able to put. A

49:00

lot of these pieces together. Scientists

49:02

have determined that the Marburg virus

49:04

doesn't seem to change or evolve

49:06

very much if at all, and

49:09

that stability suggests that the fire

49:11

S has a hard time reproducing

49:13

and co and considering how deadly

49:15

the Marburg Virus is, that's really

49:17

good news because it means that

49:19

it is rare. And the thing

49:21

is though, if you happened, subject

49:23

yourself to the right or in

49:25

this case wrong environment where the

49:28

virus can thrive like dark. Try.

49:30

Caves like the Kid and Cave

49:32

you may be opening yourself up

49:34

to a world of hurt as

49:36

numerous scientific studies and advances have

49:39

shown that the soil found within

49:41

ten years kid in Caves contains

49:43

the Marburg Virus. That's not always

49:45

says it is and now like

49:48

I said Kim Cave is believed

49:50

to sort of be you were

49:52

this virus has originated. It's sort

49:54

of like ground Zero is you

49:57

will but some scientists even see

49:59

arise that. Maybe Ebola itself also

50:01

originates from Kid Him Cave. Really.

50:03

Although he bowlers origins are still

50:06

a source of debate, he can't

50:08

really know for sure where these

50:10

things come from behind. Way, even

50:12

though you're just discovering it at

50:15

doesn't mean it has been around.

50:17

These things have probably been around

50:19

for thousands, thousands, if not millions

50:22

of years. Yeah, totally. Words is

50:24

becoming aware that exactly. Regardless of

50:26

that. now that we know that

50:29

dark, dry caves. Can be a

50:31

breeding ground for these deadly

50:33

viruses. The Kenyan authorities have

50:35

advised visitors to avoid kid.

50:37

I'm cave at all costs.

50:40

However, Despite this warning,

50:42

Kid Him Cave has become a

50:44

hotspot for daredevils and thrill seekers,

50:46

knowing who are seemingly more than

50:48

willing to gamble with their lives

50:50

for a little bit of excitement,

50:53

job or like yeah, diver youtube

50:55

video that like eight hundred people

50:57

will log ride? Hell yeah. So

50:59

it's pretty sad to say that

51:01

if people continue to fuck around,

51:03

they're gonna find out. Mend it

51:06

would just be a matter of

51:08

time before kid I'm Cave. Claims

51:10

it's and next victim. that's

51:12

when. Any way, that is

51:14

the story of Kid Him

51:16

Cave. Ak a the Hell

51:19

hole. Ak a the deadliest

51:21

keys in the world. Yikes!

51:23

And now I would just

51:25

like to thank my sauces.

51:27

Hey thank you to Atlas

51:29

obscura.com for their entry on

51:31

Kid Him Cave. Thanks to

51:33

a Real Clear science.com for

51:35

the article Ebola, Marburg and

51:37

a Real life Cave of

51:39

Death. Written by Ross Pomeroy

51:42

and published October Fourteenth: Twenty

51:44

fourteen thanks to Herald Mail

51:46

media.com for the article Lloyd

51:48

Waters Kid M Cave is

51:50

a place where evil lurks

51:52

that was published on November

51:54

Fifteenth. Two thousand and Fourteen

51:56

thanks to Storm Chaser.see A

51:58

for their blah. The entry on

52:00

Kid Him Cave This is a person

52:02

who had gone there just to like

52:04

explore. They claim they were bitten by

52:07

an Egyptian for about their nearly yeah

52:09

on early now but anyway you could

52:11

go check that out. In you want

52:13

to dig a little bit deeper. Okay

52:15

supporters and so horny their i'm A

52:17

Happy Life Ah has either determines like

52:19

Finland Audibly yeah audibly There's a real

52:21

likes thin line between horny and discuss

52:23

the rides around there. Any eat a

52:25

podcast format said I'm that line gets

52:27

blicher. I spend a lot of time

52:29

there honey. The as the say

52:31

that anyway he's a good movie.

52:33

God thank you as well to

52:36

Perceptive travel.com for the article Adventures

52:38

in Kenya Visiting the hot zone

52:40

of Kitten Cave That was the

52:42

blogspot or the blog and mean

52:44

by Mark. Ask when his the

52:47

person I talked about that almost

52:49

maybe died yeah but didn't thankfully.

52:51

But yeah yeah sorry. Now there's

52:53

another well and there is a

52:56

you Tube video by Doctor Ben

52:58

Miles called the Most Dangerous. Cave

53:00

In The World. This is about Kill Them

53:02

Cavers Published on every twenty two thousand and

53:04

Twenty three and this is a really great

53:06

video if you want to get a little

53:09

bit deeper into the scientific aspects of this

53:11

cave, which I do. Yeah, he breaks it

53:13

down in a really super digestible way. I'm

53:15

don't really know what I'm talking about when

53:17

it comes to a lot of the scientific

53:19

stuff so I didn't wanna just regurgitate. Everything

53:21

he was talking about are totally but he

53:23

goes a little bit deeper and explaining how

53:26

like these tests were done on some of

53:28

the animals in the insects that they. Collect

53:30

it from the cave and really

53:32

super interesting so definitely recommend checking

53:34

it out. Cool things as well.

53:36

To I Fell science.com for the

53:38

article didn't cave elephants go deep

53:40

into came to mind at night

53:42

and that was written by a

53:45

key core ill and published July

53:47

Twelve Two thousand, Twenty Three thanks

53:49

to rancor.com Fi article kid I'm

53:51

Cave called the Cave of Death

53:53

is possibly one of the most

53:55

dangerous places on Earth that was

53:57

written by Patrick Thornton on May

53:59

Eighth, Twenty Twenty Three thanks to

54:01

Education dot National Geographic dot Org

54:03

for their article seeking the source

54:06

of Ebola that was published on

54:08

in July of Two Thousand and

54:10

Fifteen Thanks to C D C

54:12

Dot Gov for the and tree

54:14

chronological chronology of Marburg Hammer graphic

54:16

birth Hammer and her her more

54:18

Paycheck Fever l pray to say

54:20

like you're horny will come on

54:22

a hammer hey didn't who they

54:24

are, uber outbreaks and then finally

54:26

thanks to N C B I

54:29

Dot N L. M.n I H.gov

54:31

for and the article Marburg Virus

54:33

in Fruit Bat Kenya that is

54:35

an acronym for something. Let me

54:37

just give a T a straight

54:39

analysis. Fine, I'll open up the

54:41

with. I like the ambiguity. It sounds

54:43

like a drug. The anointed mean

54:45

like it sounds like one of

54:47

those I synthetic party drugs that you

54:49

hear about on like a Vice

54:51

documentary. Totally. I like our nobody's

54:53

to meme or meow meow anymore. They're

54:56

all doom and of a bird

54:58

dog. Gov. Ah but basically. The

55:00

National Library of Medicine and the National

55:02

Center for Biotechnology Information or have there

55:04

you go get it to his answer.

55:06

oh I see I figured as much

55:09

city And and then of course is

55:11

the book the Hot Zone Only which

55:13

I have not read. Apparently it's not

55:15

fiction but then they use pseudonyms. so

55:17

many latino take it with a grain

55:20

of salt. I guess to another there

55:22

are things you thailand welcome that was

55:24

disgusting I know arrange. Oh and by

55:26

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babes and I hope to have

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57:43

together because we're going to be

57:45

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57:49

as illustrated, anti western, nobody wants

57:51

to bring river monsters home with

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them. Absolutely no via a York

57:55

Today I am going to be

57:57

talking about the murder of shallow

57:59

craft. Do you notice want? I will.

58:01

I do not know her and hair

58:03

while I'm you do murder. Hella craft

58:05

spot that's more of an art. Say

58:07

yeah and that's a T L L

58:09

A Mrs H E L L E

58:12

Very different. Yeah exactly. Anyway I'm not

58:14

to be law random as well but

58:16

you know the movie Fargo? Oh

58:18

yeah okay well this one my ring

58:20

a bell than because it turns out

58:22

this case is said to have inspired

58:24

one of the most infamous scenes from

58:26

that movie. So even if you don't

58:28

know the case per se him you

58:30

may nothing's inspired by of A and

58:32

I'll leave that up to your imagination

58:34

until we get into as I mean

58:37

they will say that I know of

58:39

Fargo Br I have not watched Florida

58:41

I haven't watched Fargo either. The close

58:43

to that I've ever com is like

58:45

an episode of Catfish where everyone was

58:47

from Fargo. So I feel a

58:49

kind of eyes totally yeah. Zoc

58:51

knit sweaters and funny accents? Yeah

58:53

and everyone fucking each other's self.

58:57

Allah Crafts Before she was How a

58:59

craft her name was Hello Lord Nielsen.

59:01

She was born on July seventh of

59:03

nineteen Forty seven and a Charlatan Lund

59:06

Denmark. I am so sorry to ordain

59:08

his friends out there. I really tried

59:10

it. A Charlatan Lund have a trial

59:12

Unless sounds delicious. It's as sounds like

59:14

a desert I know anyone. Not a

59:17

lot of biographical information out there on

59:19

how his early life but we do

59:21

know that she would come to train

59:23

as a flight attendant and this was

59:26

a career paths. Which ultimately brought her

59:28

over to the Usa to wear. Okay

59:30

yes and it was on this path

59:32

of like career and life where she

59:34

met the man who would later become

59:36

her husband and he at the time

59:38

when they mad was training to be

59:40

a commercial pilot. His name was Richard

59:42

Craft. Oh my God. Love in the

59:44

Sky. You know right meant to be

59:46

And when was this happening? This is

59:48

like what the Sixty Oh does a

59:50

bad time for planes. Planes are crashing

59:52

all over the blade I know, but

59:54

you also have a fierce Pan Am

59:56

vibes is true. Yeah, at least the art

59:58

direction was dead Menominee. I really,

1:00:00

they had to do that. They had

1:00:03

to entice people to want to fly

1:00:05

because has, yeah, it was so dangerous.

1:00:07

At least you could die in Luxor,

1:00:09

Exactly where. Yeah, you're probably going to

1:00:12

Final Destination, but you'll look sexy and

1:00:14

you'll have orders his own out and

1:00:16

you can smoke Anyway, they started seeing

1:00:18

each other in Nineteen Sixty Nine An

1:00:21

hour. but a half a decade or

1:00:23

so. I once they broke into their

1:00:25

respective fields. The couple with Marisa. This

1:00:27

was in Nineteen Seventy Five. Planes

1:00:30

are like a little bit better

1:00:32

that a little bit better hundred

1:00:34

whatever. At that point they relocated

1:00:36

to Newtown, Connecticut. now New Town.

1:00:38

It's a town obviously to he

1:00:41

can now on and the despite

1:00:43

being in Connecticut, actually resides within

1:00:45

the New York Metropolitan area. Oh

1:00:47

I find that interesting. Items Jalili

1:00:49

and I write: I didn't know

1:00:51

New York. When. Into Can that?

1:00:53

I guess it's like the Tri State area. Yeah,

1:00:55

that's why it's like the metropolitan area as I

1:00:57

mean less I'm in New Jersey is part of

1:01:00

like the New York after fourteen years. The vibe.

1:01:02

You know on ninety day fiance how like whenever

1:01:04

Darcy has to do something, she goes to New

1:01:06

York. Yeah, it's kind of like.like I guess they're

1:01:08

just close enough. It out of you likes to

1:01:10

pretend that you live in New York, but it

1:01:13

honestly liver you live in Connecticut? Yes, I like

1:01:15

living in Hamilton and being closer. Answer on oh

1:01:17

did I come in and out wherever you are

1:01:19

totally you live in How to New York? I'm

1:01:21

I live in Toronto? Yeah, exactly. So anyway

1:01:23

it's it's a town it's made up

1:01:25

of about thirty thousand residents is and

1:01:28

are some as he may or may

1:01:30

not know if from last year's as

1:01:32

it's actually home to Sandy Hook Elementary

1:01:34

which allow was the scene of a

1:01:36

brutal spree soothing that resulted in the

1:01:38

deaths of twenty children and six staff

1:01:40

numbers at Sandy Hook Elementary or find

1:01:43

December fourteenth of Twenty Twelve as it

1:01:45

that long ago already. yeah I also

1:01:47

didn't realize that happened to my birthdays.

1:01:49

Oh yeah that is Reimer so distracted

1:01:51

on those days. yeah obviously I know

1:01:53

right? not that I like have not

1:01:56

fully paid attention to like Sandy Hook

1:01:58

and like you know. Held

1:02:00

space and all that kind of stuff

1:02:02

by yeah, I didn't realize that was

1:02:04

the exact date the runway. On a

1:02:06

lighter note, if you nasty you may

1:02:08

Also known Newtown, Connecticut as the birthplace

1:02:10

of scrabble. Oh really gotta three real

1:02:12

hose out there scrabble. His leg is

1:02:14

the greatest sport game of all time.

1:02:16

It's for the real one Young and

1:02:18

for hello and her husband. New Town

1:02:20

near how they called it home. Yeah.

1:02:23

It wasn't just the birthplace of Scoble

1:02:25

Baby, it was the birthplace of their

1:02:27

life. Together, they would move there, they

1:02:29

would buy a home. They would have

1:02:31

three children: Andrew, Thomas, Christina, A

1:02:33

to Thomas increased by like to think that

1:02:35

they came up with it through a scrabble

1:02:37

game and I was I would kind of

1:02:39

wondering i know right your i try to

1:02:41

think of be like anagram of each other's

1:02:43

get see the wheels turning out to try

1:02:45

to connected to scrabble a year I now

1:02:47

racist but anyway as they raise their family

1:02:49

Hello continued to work as a flight attendant

1:02:51

which was great for anybody in the skies

1:02:53

at the time because Hello was said to

1:02:55

be like an absolute boss at her job

1:02:58

and I'm not just talking in terms of

1:03:00

like company structure I see was really good.

1:03:02

She spoke for languages. He was a total

1:03:04

people person. Folks loved are absolutely. that's

1:03:06

it. Like it is hard to become

1:03:08

a flight attendant. Looking at owning really

1:03:10

people realise how difficult it really and

1:03:12

sack than people they were taken. So

1:03:14

much said his yeah sexism absolutely handle

1:03:17

do by him. But the fact that

1:03:19

she was also like from Denmark and

1:03:21

was able to land the gig in

1:03:23

the United States like I'm deathly would

1:03:25

be some fierce competition. So I do

1:03:27

not doubt for a second that she

1:03:29

was a bomb ass bitch at her

1:03:31

job. Exactly Yeah, we. Me mad most

1:03:34

apparently upon hi how you call your

1:03:36

grandma bomb as bad exactly one knows.

1:03:38

Anyways, aside from her ferocity of work,

1:03:40

it was also said that Allah also

1:03:43

continued on her press or professional paths

1:03:45

while raising a family. not as because

1:03:47

the love of her job, but instead

1:03:50

because of a said that Richard was

1:03:52

a little bit of a scrooge make

1:03:54

dark when he came to spreading at

1:03:56

his ample paycheck and hey yeah, you

1:03:59

like mine. The or he was

1:04:01

making at least like a healthy six

1:04:03

figures has been super stingy with that.

1:04:05

Ah, which was a bit surprising when

1:04:08

you have a cat from the outside

1:04:10

because he wasn't exactly living in the

1:04:12

lap of luxury like he was honestly

1:04:15

a bit of workaholic. Okay, so yeah,

1:04:17

it seemed a little bit weird up

1:04:19

from stacked on top of his duties

1:04:22

as a pilot. Richard also got into

1:04:24

law enforcement part time of what part

1:04:26

time I know what to vibrate was.

1:04:29

He was. Even. Said to respond to

1:04:31

calls while off duty like in plain

1:04:33

which was a complete and utter overstep.

1:04:35

I yeah yeah, but like he was

1:04:37

that kind of guy. Like how Beauty

1:04:39

K also just happened to be a

1:04:41

dog catcher. You know what I mean.

1:04:43

A yes or no no, aired over

1:04:45

achiever and that hideaway like year. your

1:04:47

little bit suspicious. yeah I'm I don't

1:04:49

care where you fall on the a

1:04:51

cab spectrum. In terms of this conversation,

1:04:53

I think we can all just agree

1:04:55

that this is some red flag. These

1:04:57

behaviors up. it is is a you

1:04:59

probably. Just sits at home in front of

1:05:02

the scanner, just listens yeah and figures at

1:05:04

a way to in certain sell and ignores

1:05:06

his family race. He left it at the

1:05:08

end of a day though people just chalked

1:05:10

it up to his lab know fuck and

1:05:12

passion for justice I suppose. I mean well

1:05:15

though, Hella was left to foot the bill

1:05:17

for things like family vacations and all that

1:05:19

other stuff. Yes, he was out there making

1:05:21

to pay tax and she was literally like

1:05:23

having to work to be able to like

1:05:25

do things with her family. that is super

1:05:28

fucking shady. I hire sharing a life. Together

1:05:30

you have children together and like he's

1:05:32

I'm sure going on these vacations do

1:05:35

yeah and here helping know he's not

1:05:37

which then brings up a whole other

1:05:39

crop. His suspicions about where the money

1:05:42

is really going gray and it turns

1:05:44

out it was going somewhere because during

1:05:46

the entire relationship Hella held the believe

1:05:49

Said Richard was. Very.

1:05:51

Likely fooling around with other women on her

1:05:53

alone. It was basically a kind of like

1:05:55

known factor there in the open so he

1:05:57

was basically be a sugar daddy to everybody.

1:06:00

The people who he was actually a

1:06:02

daddy coming like a Wendy Williams his

1:06:04

ex husband kind of situation. except he

1:06:06

didn't like fully have somebody in another

1:06:08

house pregnant but I like he traveled

1:06:10

for work. hello more or less believed

1:06:12

that he was at they're Hooking Up

1:06:14

with Women while on the Road and

1:06:16

Spoiler alert. She was totally right about

1:06:18

that. like hi Her suspicions were true,

1:06:20

Richard was a fucking dog on top

1:06:22

of all of his city isms and

1:06:24

reportedly he told people that he wanted

1:06:26

to leave hello way earlier but only

1:06:28

stayed with her because she got pregnant.

1:06:30

And the was too late for them to

1:06:32

get an abortion. Oh okay, cool. So it's

1:06:34

her fault and I'll get like it's is

1:06:36

year dick and your sperm that me that

1:06:39

baby happen. Bitch with any devotee. more time.

1:06:41

Yeah, what to do? some are now. like

1:06:43

I said, hello. had her suspicions, but unfortunately

1:06:45

before any of this could be addressed life

1:06:47

through the couple a rather distracting curveball because

1:06:49

the thing as like if things had been

1:06:52

kind of cope ascetic for a while I'm

1:06:54

sure she would have been able to walk

1:06:56

on him earlier, but unfortunately they got thrown

1:06:58

in medical emergency and nineteen Eighty Four. When

1:07:01

Crafts or Site when Richard Craft was diagnosed

1:07:03

with colon cancer. Oh my gosh, he's not

1:07:05

cool enough me to refer to him by

1:07:07

his last name. Ah, now he's a Deuce.

1:07:10

It's no joke, despite the fact that I

1:07:12

really do want to make a joke given

1:07:14

how much of a cancerous asshole he has

1:07:16

proven to be as a human being. But

1:07:18

I digress. I will not make the job

1:07:21

now making the joke. Yeah, exactly it cause

1:07:23

it is a pretty grim diagnosis. He was

1:07:25

year or two percent chance of survival. You

1:07:27

know he had children. That does suck. but

1:07:30

somehow. Through the powers of hell, fire

1:07:32

and toxic masculinity, he was able to

1:07:34

pull through what he wrote that two

1:07:36

percent into the sunset and more not

1:07:38

into the sunset. That would kind of

1:07:40

indicate that he died, but the point

1:07:42

is Richard liked it and went into

1:07:45

remission tan and of course hello was

1:07:47

by his side during the entire process.

1:07:49

Here's a question or see. Have different

1:07:51

his medical bills to or is he

1:07:53

able to take her that paid don't

1:07:55

believe she was running as medical bills

1:07:58

and of on and send and. If

1:08:00

he was it would have been mentioned

1:08:02

by i see was really having to

1:08:04

do at all sure and the whole

1:08:06

time Richard never relented on be the

1:08:08

absolute. Fucking. Worse really?

1:08:11

If they give you like steer a death in

1:08:13

the face. Like nose to nose. yeah

1:08:15

Grim Reaper and maybe I should break

1:08:17

it off with all of my liaisons

1:08:19

been? No, fortunately he doesn't he was

1:08:21

sacked. Worry no no no Go is

1:08:23

probably taking this as a sign from

1:08:25

god is like why must be doing

1:08:27

something right? Yeah so maybe I should

1:08:29

go and than have more affairs. Ding

1:08:31

ding bangla kind of what he does

1:08:33

go either. Ah, his shitty behavior only

1:08:35

ramps up past this point and honestly

1:08:37

it would just be had a boiling

1:08:39

point cause there's only so many places

1:08:41

one can really go from there yet.

1:08:43

So by Nineteen eighty six

1:08:45

after a of strange long

1:08:47

distance phone calls been discovered

1:08:49

by Hella and then mysterious

1:08:52

Christmas gift been purchased, fire

1:08:54

answered in our ah hella

1:08:56

Just had enough of his

1:08:58

said and she was like

1:09:00

there's just enough proof here

1:09:02

like I. Am. Not saying

1:09:04

the skin of real you know and

1:09:06

Richard did not take it well are

1:09:08

reportedly he got physical with her, which

1:09:10

was said to be a tactic that

1:09:12

he started to employ more frequently as

1:09:14

the years went on. Know? yeah. So

1:09:16

after the dust settled, hello to Hook

1:09:18

Back channels to really kick start the

1:09:20

end of her marriage to Richer Yes,

1:09:22

he was. Done. She was

1:09:24

be in the H B I see

1:09:27

exactly So by the fall of Banks

1:09:29

maybe six hello began meeting with a

1:09:31

divorce attorney and even hired a private

1:09:33

investigator a Man in Chief Mayo to

1:09:35

keep an eye on Richard. And you

1:09:37

know, also, to gather some intel on

1:09:39

his rather abundant infidelity Will Jaeger. she's

1:09:42

gonna take his ass to tear. Yeah,

1:09:44

and the hills are alive with sound

1:09:46

of Richard banging other women out there

1:09:48

in the open south. Of course, it

1:09:50

wouldn't take long for Keys to have

1:09:52

photo evidence of Richard. Going out on dates

1:09:54

with a woman in New Jersey who was later

1:09:57

identified as a flight attendant? Of course or not,

1:09:59

you said a. Woman named New Jersey or

1:10:01

a woman name's New Jersey. I'm sure she's out

1:10:03

there somewhere. There is a woman named New Jersey

1:10:05

at the I would like to thank and the

1:10:08

I'd like to think that she was raised in

1:10:10

New Jersey to sleep, babe and bond. I'm fitness

1:10:12

and hotel a babe who named her daughter Bond

1:10:14

I ask her. Been. On that was

1:10:16

Heyman for. Now anyway

1:10:18

they got caught kissing on sell or and

1:10:21

I was just about all the proof that

1:10:23

one would need and a case like this

1:10:25

like hell aside was looking strong and the

1:10:27

day was just drawing nearer when she can

1:10:29

officially dump his ass and and really not

1:10:31

have to look back on at the thing

1:10:34

is though at the same time hello all

1:10:36

side apprehension on how talking to Richard about

1:10:38

the entire thing would go given the fact

1:10:40

that even in some of the most but

1:10:42

now conversations he to just volatile of the

1:10:45

drop of a hat. Sounds like it. Yeah

1:10:47

exactly so she was like even though I

1:10:49

have nothing but proof here and even nothing

1:10:51

but am on my side he's probably still

1:10:53

gonna take this like a big city baby

1:10:55

and she was just like I don't know

1:10:57

how to best protect myself walking into this

1:10:59

price but she knew that the day was

1:11:01

coming in that she was and have to

1:11:03

find a way to approach him. With all

1:11:06

of this there was even have reported incidents

1:11:08

are instance leading up to our the events

1:11:10

of the are talking about were hello told

1:11:12

her friends that have something were to happen

1:11:14

to her like not to is seen. It

1:11:16

was an accident. like it was really

1:11:18

starting to get to that point. like

1:11:20

that is telling and deeply unsettling. Absolutely

1:11:22

few to even have to consider having

1:11:24

those conversations, not even just like with

1:11:26

yourself bundled with someone else. See out

1:11:29

loud you are in a bad situation.

1:11:31

but that's the thing. This is fall

1:11:33

of nights needy sex and she just

1:11:35

has all of the stuff kind of

1:11:37

piling up on her plate and susan

1:11:39

like, okay well I'm on. cut things

1:11:41

off and if something happens it is

1:11:43

not an accident And this leads us

1:11:45

to. November Nineteen Eighty Six, where it

1:11:48

seems like hallows, Finally ready to get

1:11:50

the ball rolling on the public face

1:11:52

and side of the divorce on the

1:11:54

eighteenth of that month, after touching back

1:11:56

down home in Connecticut from a flight

1:11:59

to Frankfurt West. The Money Hello had

1:12:01

actually shared with some of her cabin

1:12:03

coworkers that she's gonna tell Richard upon

1:12:05

returning that she was leaving him once

1:12:07

and for all who at the time

1:12:09

at you as they're getting ready to

1:12:11

touchdown in Connecticut. She was expressing concern

1:12:13

about like keeping her job to support

1:12:15

the kids who should lead she be

1:12:17

caring for throughout the separation, the course

1:12:19

and furthermore she was concerned i Richard

1:12:21

medium the like track her down because

1:12:23

I guess he had had past experience

1:12:25

doing tracking in relation to work. Oh

1:12:27

great so he's a stalker I are

1:12:29

now early. Well yeah our like he has

1:12:31

some kind of detective work on his resume

1:12:33

down there. So anyway as the dude had

1:12:36

lived a thousand lives and she was like

1:12:38

i don't know how I'm going to be

1:12:40

able to like protect myself from have right

1:12:42

the thing as oh by the time that

1:12:44

they ended up touching down in what was

1:12:46

a budding snowstorm, hello was secure in her

1:12:49

toys she told her coworkers who dropped her

1:12:51

off at home from the flight isn't that

1:12:53

she was going to tell Richard as soon

1:12:55

as she got an the thing as doubt

1:12:57

that day November eighteenth of Nineteen Eighty Six

1:12:59

in. The early hours of the snowstorm.

1:13:01

Those were the last moments that anybody

1:13:04

saw Hello alive from her outside circle

1:13:06

disarm. It hit Connecticut later that night,

1:13:08

knocking off power to the crafts as

1:13:10

well as other families and Richard Wood

1:13:12

latest children up in the early morning

1:13:14

hours to shuttle them to his sister's

1:13:16

place who had power. When Richard called

1:13:19

his sister, he said that Hello would

1:13:21

be there to, but when they arrived,

1:13:23

she was not with them, right? Instead,

1:13:25

just Richard, the kids and their live

1:13:27

in nanny. Richard told his sister that.

1:13:30

And a while and the kids that hell

1:13:32

had actually stayed behind and that she would

1:13:34

reconnect with them. leader like she would drive

1:13:36

up on around, but Spoiler Alert never did.

1:13:39

From there it just became a slow roll

1:13:41

out of realization for folks around them that

1:13:43

something was up and Hello was missing race.

1:13:45

Her coworkers/friends also found this notably chilling, giving

1:13:48

what they knew about like what Hello was

1:13:50

going to be doing when she got home

1:13:52

and also given the fact that she's clearly

1:13:54

said if she'd gone missing, it was not

1:13:57

a mistake for a They also thought it

1:13:59

was unclear. The replica of her given the

1:14:01

fact that she had just been talking about how

1:14:03

she would not want to fuck up you know,

1:14:05

like anything with her johnson because she was gonna

1:14:07

have to be with the sole breadwinner for her

1:14:10

kids and then. right? Off the

1:14:12

bat, she's missing work, see able to

1:14:14

like this doesn't really add up. This

1:14:16

is not the Halloween know like we

1:14:18

want answer. It's red Flag city A

1:14:20

exactly. So They start asking questions and

1:14:22

Richard is more than happy to offer

1:14:24

up explanations albeit. Differing. Ones

1:14:26

I have, yeah depending on when you spoke

1:14:29

to him. So he began by telling people

1:14:31

that he just straight up didn't know where

1:14:33

hello was and he didn't seem concerned. Oh,

1:14:35

and any said that she had gone back

1:14:38

to Denmark to visit her mother, who was

1:14:40

ill. Ah, however, there was no proof of

1:14:42

that and when some of How's friends reached

1:14:44

out to her mother just to confirm the

1:14:47

story because it sounded a bit far fetched

1:14:49

here, they were able to confirm that Hella

1:14:51

had not made the international trip back home.

1:14:53

And furthermore, her mother wasn't good health. so.

1:14:56

She would have no reason to go back

1:14:58

to. At least that wasn't the reason why

1:15:00

she was. No, it was alive from all

1:15:02

angles. And then when confronted with the lie,

1:15:04

Richard once again switched up his story, claiming

1:15:07

that hello was actually vacationing in the Canary

1:15:09

Islands. Girl, I mean I know, like a

1:15:11

flight attendant. Probably you know, flies and travels

1:15:13

more than your average person. but still. Yeah,

1:15:15

you think you know where you're fucking wife

1:15:17

is? Yeah, and it's like, oh, the person

1:15:20

or brands my household assist Taking the international

1:15:22

vacation? I just forgotten. I just thought that

1:15:24

they were going somewhere else International. A high.

1:15:26

Sierra is one of easy thing for someone

1:15:28

to forget right? But I once again it

1:15:30

was bowl and as folks started to talk

1:15:33

and with the stories that they had been

1:15:35

getting from Richard and sharing them between each

1:15:37

other it was clear that he was just

1:15:39

all over the map and from this point

1:15:41

Heloise friends hired a private investigator to look

1:15:43

into things because they just were not able

1:15:45

to trust Richard Wright and any have to

1:15:48

remember he's a part time cop to even

1:15:50

though you like what what others less system

1:15:52

says he have it it a play like

1:15:54

what else is he manipulated exactly. So. This

1:15:56

private investigator ended up speaking to

1:15:58

the Crafts family. The live in

1:16:01

nanny who mentioned that after how

1:16:03

his disappearance a weird stain just

1:16:05

happened to pop up on the

1:16:07

floor in the bedroom. wow I've

1:16:09

got dark grapefruit size stay in

1:16:11

popped up on the carpet in

1:16:13

the bedroom after Hella just you

1:16:15

know where on a mystery vacation

1:16:17

and nobody knew where she was.

1:16:19

Ray and then for some reason

1:16:21

the carpet where the same was

1:16:23

was cut out. Out I was

1:16:25

never an auspicious at all I know will

1:16:27

know on. and also there is the matter

1:16:30

of Richard buying a large freezer on November

1:16:32

sixteenth, Chino the day before how his return

1:16:34

ah which also shortly thereafter disappeared without any

1:16:36

trade. Hoadley normal freezers com freezers go out

1:16:39

so loosely and you know what even more

1:16:41

normal given all of kid also bought a

1:16:43

chainsaw during that time and he also had

1:16:46

his name as it turns out at like

1:16:48

does what the P I finds out he

1:16:50

has his name on the rental the U

1:16:52

Haul in a wood chipper from November. Twentieth

1:16:55

just two days after Hallows disappear. Oh,

1:16:57

isn't that Us law? random? Oh, it's

1:16:59

just such a random coincidence you must

1:17:01

really cutting down trees. Maybe he was

1:17:03

getting into force? Siri Y no Funny

1:17:05

fact. I think he was. Yes it.

1:17:07

And you know, Even. Funnier,

1:17:10

If you'll love this. it took three

1:17:12

weeks for her to be registered as

1:17:14

missing. so what's and always just disappeared

1:17:16

and even even filers Innocent person just

1:17:18

as funny as plumped for gets everything

1:17:20

wearing any. Why would he? Why would

1:17:22

he report her missing if she was

1:17:24

a visiting her sick mom in Denmark

1:17:26

in the Canary Islands. Exactly? And he's

1:17:28

got all the heavy machinery to rant.

1:17:30

I mean he uses his mind is

1:17:32

else we know what he wanted to

1:17:34

the he wanted to surprise her. Oh

1:17:36

yeah I like a home renovation when

1:17:38

she came back for ah the Canary.

1:17:40

Islands in Denmark probably. And then he

1:17:42

would just Tippett. Mack and

1:17:44

one on Caesar as a police

1:17:47

will get involved and a forensic

1:17:49

team would examine the family home

1:17:51

to check for any traces. This

1:17:53

investigation ended up happening on December

1:17:55

Twenty Sixth of Nineteen Eighty Six.

1:17:57

Ah and mama! They found their

1:17:59

trees. Despite the previously torn up

1:18:01

carpet, they actually some blood evidence in

1:18:03

the couple's room on the bed frame

1:18:05

and I'm sure Richard was just shocked

1:18:07

by that. Ah ha consider. He had

1:18:09

also painstakingly redecorated the room in the

1:18:12

days following hello going missing some courses,

1:18:14

a bulky linens, and all that stuff.

1:18:16

Oh sure, he was like, how did

1:18:18

I buy Bloody Women The cluster So

1:18:20

we're going to return them right away.

1:18:22

I hate that. Yeah, the real kicker

1:18:24

that was when the police found the

1:18:26

receipts for the offer mentioned in Holland

1:18:28

Wood Chipper Rentals from the twentieth. Cause

1:18:30

I'd like to imagine that even there

1:18:32

were like do that's a bit on

1:18:34

the now with her right? Well honestly

1:18:36

the bulls. I don't stop there because

1:18:38

shortly after these discoveries are made in

1:18:41

the Craft family home a local manning

1:18:43

Joseph High and would reach out to

1:18:45

the police and share kind of strange

1:18:47

stating that he it had a soon

1:18:49

as after Hellish Disappear ends and this

1:18:51

is up near lake Or which as

1:18:53

name suggests was a lake from the

1:18:55

area and. With names

1:18:57

just as well as the name suggests

1:18:59

that sounds like it's a late from

1:19:01

another plan as he at while he

1:19:03

does the as aura more is zed

1:19:06

oh a are yeah yeah I know

1:19:08

of in a sex pedal with that

1:19:10

name that's about it. but anyway it

1:19:12

sounds like something from a power rangers

1:19:14

mother know it's not arm and the

1:19:16

at a local lake. ah and is

1:19:18

the guy joseph Hein who called it

1:19:20

an athlete drives the snowplows so that's

1:19:22

kind of why he was like up

1:19:24

in about a weird hours but yeah

1:19:26

kids are that he was driving in

1:19:28

the early hours of the twentieth and

1:19:30

this is when he saw a rental

1:19:32

truck parked close to the source of

1:19:35

the lake and attached to the back

1:19:37

of a rental truck to so happened

1:19:39

to be a wood chipper. really normal

1:19:41

and not suspicious that all exactly So

1:19:43

sila don't know about that and then

1:19:45

the cops were basically like he on

1:19:47

can you take us to where he

1:19:49

saw that would chipper would not be

1:19:51

cool and it did that and man

1:19:53

they've had a major discovery because outside

1:19:55

about the wood. Chips. that they found to

1:19:57

straight up all over the ground. They also sounds.

1:20:00

The ounces of bodily tissue from

1:20:02

a human, a portion of a

1:20:04

some bone chips, only a fingernail

1:20:06

with pink polish on it, a

1:20:09

little under twenty seven hundred bleach

1:20:11

blonde hair, the crowd of a

1:20:13

tooth and women's underwear. Caesar's right?

1:20:16

Yeah, aka just what you would

1:20:18

expect if somebody had been put

1:20:20

through a fucking wood chipper. Yeah.

1:20:23

Murder. confetti, exactly. Yeah, actually. and

1:20:25

it again was harrowing to say

1:20:27

the least or not. And the

1:20:30

discoveries. Because they also happened to

1:20:32

find a chainsaw with also to so happened

1:20:34

to have some blonde hair stuck in the

1:20:36

teeth of it and then i severely on

1:20:38

number of braided away but the chainsaw from

1:20:40

him it's foggy was out there in the

1:20:42

open he was thrown to the bottom of

1:20:45

the fucking lake. luckily they were able to

1:20:47

spot it and pull it out yeah like

1:20:49

just Red flags city one has yes when

1:20:51

we the chainsaw was sent to allowed to

1:20:53

see if they recover the serial number the

1:20:55

tooth crowned I was found that the waterside

1:20:57

was sent off to be matched to dental.

1:21:00

Records because even though these discoveries

1:21:02

are food for the soul of

1:21:04

investigations are still nobody. therefore no

1:21:06

clear murder charge to go forward

1:21:08

on just yet. I mean a

1:21:10

at excuse my ignorance, but how

1:21:12

else does one person literally get

1:21:14

popped if not murdered? Wow does

1:21:16

nothing. It's nineteen Eighty Six, they're

1:21:18

still working a Dna. Answers are

1:21:20

not coming quick but the thing

1:21:23

is shortly after the new your

1:21:25

head like once it becomes nice

1:21:27

nearly seven a game changing break

1:21:29

would come. In. The form of a

1:21:31

hit from the dental lab who

1:21:33

were able to link the crown

1:21:35

that they found at the Lakeside

1:21:37

two hours from dental records of

1:21:39

a positive Id on the teeth

1:21:42

led them to be able to

1:21:44

issue a death certificate officially for

1:21:46

Hell off. On January Thirteenth of

1:21:48

Nineteen Eighty Seventh and Wants to

1:21:50

Die was issued. They were finally

1:21:52

able to sweeping on Richard and

1:21:54

arrest him for her murder. Perfect

1:21:56

Yeah, Although he reportedly tried to

1:21:58

saw the process, The same at he

1:22:01

was tired and would take care of

1:22:03

them. Wait why do you like of rest?

1:22:05

Yeah I'm overlays hi I'm were coming to

1:22:07

arrest you. You killed your wife and his

1:22:10

kids high as in the like. Okay

1:22:12

with and go have an app and then

1:22:14

you're going to jail Like sound. What the

1:22:16

fuck Who the fuck is this guy Like

1:22:18

a non violent person I'm a punch

1:22:20

with pockets and right what a look and

1:22:23

they were like soccer Chicken strips is a

1:22:25

rest of him. Put him in custody on

1:22:27

a seven hundred thousand dollar bond on

1:22:29

opposite bomb. You know what I wish

1:22:31

that they could upon him in their

1:22:33

the Seven Thousand Dollar Bond Murder as yeah

1:22:36

But anyway the chainsaw ended up getting positively

1:22:38

I did shortly thereafter as the one that

1:22:40

Richard had recently bought at a local hardware

1:22:42

store on the U Haul that he had

1:22:45

also rented out know the one that was

1:22:47

like clearly in his name and has returned

1:22:49

also was found to have a clump the

1:22:52

and as I turned out to be human

1:22:54

blood into self the evidence or sacking up

1:22:56

at this point Yes but on Richard side

1:22:58

he was like. No. Body, no

1:23:01

murder girl. All can prove nothing.

1:23:03

That's it out. This guy had

1:23:05

no illusions of grandeur and mom,

1:23:07

nobody. They found your wife's fucking

1:23:09

round bitch. They found her finger

1:23:11

nail, parts of her body scattered

1:23:13

everywhere. And you have the gall

1:23:15

to say that there's no bodies.

1:23:17

Yes, there's no intact bodies because

1:23:19

you threw in a fucking wood

1:23:21

chipper. Did yeah, you the Lubitsch.

1:23:23

Anyway, Richard Wood Nanci Trial. Until

1:23:25

May have Nineteen Eighty Eight been.

1:23:27

In the meantime, there was quite

1:23:29

a case. Proud to the guns Town!

1:23:32

Ah ha It's clearly laid out how

1:23:34

that the prosecution thought things had happened.

1:23:36

It was believe that after hello confronted

1:23:38

Richard likely attacked her in their room

1:23:40

with a please flashlight that he had

1:23:42

free arm softer bludgeoning her to death

1:23:44

which would cause the carpet stain. They

1:23:47

believe that she was then put into

1:23:49

a freezer where she was state and

1:23:51

or where she stayed until she was

1:23:53

frozen enough to be transported to leagues

1:23:55

or in his rental van Zyl. Then

1:23:57

he used the chainsaw the color purple

1:24:00

the they believe which was and fed

1:24:02

through the woods. Shepherd for Zena you

1:24:04

don't want to put them and and

1:24:06

one knows fell swoop year get him

1:24:08

and little beds. But anyway to further

1:24:10

prove this investigators with end up doing

1:24:12

their own little experiment where they put

1:24:15

the carcass of a paper through a

1:24:17

similar simulation a high and a bone

1:24:19

fragments produced matched the kind of shape

1:24:21

and quality of those that were found

1:24:23

at the sight of. Lakes

1:24:25

or all. This was found right.

1:24:28

So this got presented at trial

1:24:30

and in his defense, Richard just

1:24:32

simply said hello, ran away. God

1:24:34

yeah, he's like nobody is. No,

1:24:36

I'm however, in a way am

1:24:38

I do this fucking guy? Yeah,

1:24:41

just given off. Well, that's a

1:24:43

thing. It sounds farfetched to us,

1:24:45

but it turns out it was

1:24:47

enough to sway at least wonder

1:24:49

what we know for sure wonder

1:24:51

because it seems they refused to

1:24:54

move forward and deliberation. After seventeen

1:24:56

hours a mistrial had to be

1:24:58

called. Swat has yet. The jury

1:25:00

deliberated for seventeen hours and one

1:25:02

person on the jury was like

1:25:04

I believe I'm I think she

1:25:07

ran away home and refused to

1:25:09

move forward like in any way,

1:25:11

shape or form. Oh my God.

1:25:13

Oh yeah, I miss trial ended

1:25:15

up having to be called. They're

1:25:17

like we can't The jury together

1:25:19

on this and another trial went

1:25:22

forward in like November of Nineteen

1:25:24

Eighty Nine. They were. Basically just

1:25:26

like given another take I guess

1:25:28

exactly like what the hell? Yeah.

1:25:30

So they got a different juri

1:25:32

and and honestly the second trial

1:25:34

was weighed quicker again ended up

1:25:37

getting a guilty verdict guy and

1:25:39

of out on November twenty first

1:25:41

and it was done and dusted

1:25:43

from their Richard Crafts was to

1:25:45

be imprisoned for the see above

1:25:47

future for the murder of Hello

1:25:50

Crafts. But I'm not even gonna

1:25:52

pretend like. That's. Where it

1:25:54

stops and cause baby. Fast.

1:25:57

Forward to January: Thirtieth.

1:26:00

Of twenty. Twenty.

1:26:03

The. Mother Fucker gets released

1:26:05

due to statutory good

1:26:07

time. What? A.

1:26:10

Statutory. Good time. I.

1:26:13

Like the sound of that. that sounds

1:26:15

weird as I off off, but it

1:26:17

essentially meant good behavior as he had

1:26:19

done a bunch of work. While.

1:26:21

He was in there and will

1:26:23

play for Can Do To Exactly

1:26:25

so he thought to be released

1:26:28

to live out a halfway house

1:26:30

in Bridgeport, Connecticut? What? Yep, so

1:26:32

he's out there. he's walk in

1:26:34

keys live in. He claims that

1:26:36

he never killed her again. Nobody

1:26:38

felt ill after all of this

1:26:40

time. mean just pleading a like

1:26:42

ignorance. well as you say innocence

1:26:44

but also ignorance both may as

1:26:46

well. What did like when of

1:26:48

that one of what it was kids think.

1:26:51

Do. We know we don't I mean maybe they're

1:26:53

probably not speaking very publicly about it. I

1:26:55

wouldn't necessarily my would want to associate myself

1:26:57

with it. I tried to find you know

1:26:59

statements from them can find any. Yeah, he

1:27:01

is out there in this growth motherfucker Cause

1:27:04

if you're listening, You. Can do

1:27:06

all jobs you want but the world knows

1:27:08

what you did. Yeah my hope is is

1:27:10

walk down a street one day and whoops

1:27:12

falls into a wood chipper. right? Oh that

1:27:15

would be so scissor and just and and

1:27:17

then and then the wood chipper stalls and

1:27:19

stops working and then he's I hang in

1:27:21

there in the wood chipper and then it's

1:27:23

It's like thirty minutes for them.on called the

1:27:26

Wood Chipper and unfinished, Tillingham sees as a

1:27:28

hast thou a slow death in a wood

1:27:30

chipper mood like out on. Or maybe the

1:27:32

people in medieval times have a riot and

1:27:34

announce our now. This fucking guy.

1:27:36

I hate him. right?

1:27:38

So mad like either. Whether even if you

1:27:40

think that you've got the world and like I'm

1:27:43

talking this guy know is not as we

1:27:45

listen. But it's like mother fucker. If you

1:27:47

are so deluded as you really think you've

1:27:49

got the robe on your side Legit. Understand that

1:27:51

what you did is so fucked up it

1:27:53

literally created one of the most fucked up

1:27:55

pop culture references. On

1:27:57

out and with for like this the reason.

1:28:00

The past. I mean yeah, like that's

1:28:02

the T people believe and like it's

1:28:04

even said like on their behind the

1:28:06

scenes like on the Dignity of Fargo

1:28:09

that the wood chipper death at the

1:28:11

end of Fargo is allegedly inspired by.

1:28:13

This case isn't you know? So one

1:28:15

a legacy. Yeah, what a legacy. The

1:28:18

have you may that he killed your

1:28:20

wife. That's what a took. This case

1:28:22

also hold the distinction of being the

1:28:24

first one featured or least featured on

1:28:27

the first episode of Forensic Files. Oh

1:28:29

shit yeah. I mean duty. Ding dong

1:28:31

Deadly dead at the app. Anyway, with

1:28:33

all that being said, that just about

1:28:35

covers the case of Hella Crafts murders.

1:28:38

Stay safe run would shippers and ass

1:28:40

holes with all I can say. hundred

1:28:42

percent that poor woman, my old a

1:28:44

force amalie settling all she wanted to

1:28:46

do. Was. Take care of her,

1:28:48

kids, have a good life, and not

1:28:51

get fucked around All right. That's not

1:28:53

really asking for very much now said.

1:28:55

She. Ruined. By. Richard Craft you

1:28:58

deck and I know is how. Listening

1:29:00

but as on the famous or sustained

1:29:02

The New York Times for a Campaign

1:29:04

seeks to Help slain women's children published

1:29:06

by Michael Free Talk on February eighth

1:29:08

of Nineteen Eighty Seven think the New

1:29:10

York Times as well for everything but

1:29:12

a body and a murder trial Published

1:29:14

by Neck For A Bow on May

1:29:16

Fifteenth, Nineteen Eighty Eight Think A D

1:29:18

P I Archives for housekeeper testifies and

1:29:21

murder case pups I'm are published on

1:29:23

March eleventh of Nineteen Eighty Seven. that

1:29:25

console to U T I are cause

1:29:27

for Dentist identifies teeth fragments as dead

1:29:29

Wife published on May twelfth of My

1:29:31

to Mediate think it's the needn't be

1:29:33

for Richard Crafts moves to homeless Shelter

1:29:35

for Veterans Posts by Andrew Gross Go

1:29:37

on a January thirtieth of Twenty Twenty.

1:29:39

Oh yeah, the halfway house he's moved

1:29:41

into, his one for veterans have fared

1:29:44

the eigen pretty old by that now,

1:29:46

right? Ah, I'm. Also.

1:29:48

Thank you to Hartford Courant, Far

1:29:50

Richer Craft notorious wood chipper murderer

1:29:52

released from prison Published by Christine

1:29:54

Dempsey on January Thirty First Twenty

1:29:56

Twenty Think a T W T

1:29:58

H or N H. Eight

1:30:00

for Wood Chipper Murderer Transferred from

1:30:02

prison move to homeless shelter for

1:30:04

Veterans in Bridgeport. Published on March

1:30:06

or January Thirty First of Twenty

1:30:09

Twenty. Thank you to the New

1:30:11

York Daily News for Wood Chipper

1:30:13

Murderer Richard Craps out of Prison

1:30:15

Published by Storm Gifford on January

1:30:17

Thirty First to Twenty Twenty. And

1:30:19

finally think it a boston.com for

1:30:21

Connecticut man who put life and

1:30:23

wood chipper release from prison twenty

1:30:25

years early. Published by Associated Press

1:30:27

on February First. Twenty Twenty. All

1:30:29

right. Ah, My blood pressure is definitely

1:30:32

were hired him how to select twenty

1:30:34

minutes ago. yeah oh sorry about that.

1:30:36

Ah didn't inputs into an early grave.

1:30:38

Their know you did it. but on

1:30:40

Ps. well mean we should move on

1:30:42

and listened. Yeah, let's move on to

1:30:44

him. talk about where we landed and

1:30:47

yeah okay well Tyler Magnitude, you're looking

1:30:49

to me. Take a breath, me, be

1:30:51

season and tell me what did you

1:30:53

learn today today? I learned that confidence

1:30:55

and delusions and get you very very

1:30:57

far at least within your own mind.

1:30:59

This. Guy really thought he had

1:31:02

everybody fooled me was lying this

1:31:04

way that way up and down

1:31:06

coming up with all kinds of

1:31:08

different reasons and he just thought.

1:31:11

He. Would get away with it. He thought

1:31:13

he was smarter than everybody else a been.

1:31:16

So I will say this confidence is good

1:31:18

to a degree by if you hit that

1:31:20

tipping point. You're. An asshole minnow.

1:31:22

So watch out, Watch out. Yeah,

1:31:24

keep yourselves and checks Baby I

1:31:27

love it. I well today I

1:31:29

learned that even if the world

1:31:31

is like hey baby you go

1:31:33

to that cave you do your

1:31:35

family's sake it out you know

1:31:37

what I mean or hi I'm

1:31:39

do your research and here you

1:31:41

know do you prep work? not

1:31:43

I victim blame or anything like

1:31:45

that. But sometimes even when the

1:31:47

world is give you nothing but

1:31:50

green lights it's still worthwhile. To

1:31:52

distill little bit extra due diligence,

1:31:54

pump the brakes a little bit.

1:31:56

Exactly like sometimes, anxiety is not

1:31:58

a bad thing. The roof invitees really

1:32:01

there to save her out. And yeah, anxiety reflex

1:32:03

is an ass because we do on some level

1:32:05

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1:32:07

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1:32:10

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1:32:12

You don't want to go off when you're cooking

1:32:14

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1:32:16

them in the barracks. He says he don't run

1:32:19

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1:32:22

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1:32:24

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1:32:26

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