This is the A-List, the podcast that asks the world's top advertising professionals how they got started in the business.

In this episode, our host Tom Christmann talks with Mike Manheimer, Chief Marketing Officer at Postscript.io. Mike ditched his pre-law plan to join a software startup where he learned every aspect of marketing before a random meeting on an elevator led to his CMO job at SMS company Postscript. If you want to learn how to craft an SMS campaign like Mr. Beast, this is the episode for you.

The A-List is sponsored by Adhouse Advertising School, where we’ve got three classes this session (starts week of June 12!), including one called PHARMA FOR NONHACKS where you’ll learn all the special pharma rules and then learn how to break them.

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