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Hey, everyone. This is Scott.

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I know we haven't talked for a

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while. The impetus for

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doing this particular episode

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was I wanted to announce there's

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a new season coming up and also

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announce a few changes regarding

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the show. But as I

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started thinking about it, I also realized

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that it might be a good opportunity

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to bowl kind of help

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welcome and bring new

0:30

listeners up to speed, as

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well as for some of your long

0:34

term listeners kind of

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explain a little bit

0:38

of the method to my madness

0:41

because I realized that along the

0:43

way, You followed this podcast

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through a lot of twists and

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turns and a variety of

0:49

different series on different topics.

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for which I am eternally grateful because

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you really let me indulge my

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passion of, you know, every

0:58

given moment. So

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again, I I need to thank you for that.

1:03

But also, you know, even if you're enjoying

1:05

it, I thought it might be beneficial or

1:07

helpful or fun. to kind

1:09

of walk through, you know,

1:12

a little bit of the history, a little bit of the process,

1:15

a little discussion on, you

1:17

know, the impedis for

1:19

each series. And what I was

1:21

trying to accomplish when I started, what I felt

1:23

I eventually accomplished, and and how the

1:25

process went. And again,

1:28

let this serve as a brief

1:30

introduction to new listeners who

1:32

maybe just subscribe to the show and

1:34

don't really have a good handle on all

1:36

the various series that have

1:38

come out under the ancient world banner.

1:41

So this one's gonna be a little more conversational

1:44

and off the cuff. Again, hopefully,

1:46

be enjoyable. Make sure you

1:48

stay tuned for later on

1:50

during this where I will be

1:53

discussing the new upcoming season

1:55

and also some of the changes to the

1:57

podcast and hang around for that, but also

1:59

hopefully

1:59

the stuff between now and then will also be

2:02

of some interest to you. So

2:04

let's talk about the origin of the ancient

2:06

world podcast. There

2:09

are a lot of threads that came together

2:12

to start me down

2:14

the road of writing and producing

2:16

and releasing the first The Ancient

2:19

World podcast about ten years ago

2:21

now. which is bizarre

2:23

even to me. And just to go back

2:26

a bit, I did not study history

2:28

at university. actually have an

2:30

advanced engineering degree. But

2:32

I've always been interested in history even going

2:35

back to grade school.

2:37

and especially once I started to

2:39

travel in my twenties and thirties

2:41

and travel to a lot of interesting locations

2:44

and you know, as part of traveling

2:47

to those places, I would research

2:49

the history of those places

2:51

and became more and more interested Another

2:54

aspect that led to me becoming

2:57

more familiar with the concept of podcasting

2:59

was I had a very

3:01

long commute. for a very

3:03

long time. I had also

3:07

done about ten years on and

3:09

off as a college Radio community

3:12

DJ. And for these long commutes,

3:14

I I used to listen to

3:16

as much new music as I could.

3:19

But I found out that after a while,

3:21

even if you are researching new music

3:23

regularly, it is hard to

3:25

fill your or at least it was a

3:27

dozen years ago. hard to fill your with

3:30

two hours per day of

3:32

new interesting enjoyable music.

3:36

So in order to kill that time

3:38

more usefully, beneficially,

3:41

interestingly, entertainingly, I

3:44

started to listen to podcasts.

3:47

And one of the first I listened to was

3:50

twelve Byzantine Emperor's by Lars

3:52

Brownwerth You've probably

3:54

heard of it before. It's a very foundational

3:57

podcast. It started the podcasting

3:59

career of a lot of people. it's kind

4:02

of like the famous Sex Pistol Show

4:04

in Manchester where not

4:06

a lot of people saw it, but everyone

4:08

that did started a band. It

4:10

seemed like so that was

4:12

the impetus for a lot of especially history

4:15

podcasters. But of

4:17

course, that was only twelve episodes, and

4:19

so I needed more content. And

4:22

I very quickly came to Mike Duncan's

4:24

The History of Rome. That

4:26

podcast definitely kept

4:29

me busy during my commutes for

4:31

quite some time. And I became a

4:33

really big fan became

4:35

such a big fan that I decided to

4:38

go on one of Mike Duckins,

4:40

The History of Rome Tours back

4:42

in twenty eleven. I went on the

4:44

second one actually. So that

4:46

was the occasion where, again, I got to travel

4:48

to a lot of amazing places in

4:50

Italy as well as Istanbul. And

4:53

also during that trip, I

4:55

I had the opportunity to interact with

4:57

Mike a few times with Mike Duncan. Now,

5:00

here's one thing I didn't mention is that

5:02

I caught up with the history of Rome

5:04

by this time. So just like

5:06

everyone else, I was waiting weekly for

5:09

another, you know, half hour episode, which

5:11

again would not let me would not

5:13

effectively kill my commute. So

5:15

I started hunting around and I found that

5:17

what I really was interested in and

5:19

I really wanted to find a good podcast

5:21

on was like really

5:24

ancient near eastern history,

5:26

you know, Sumerians, Babylonians, Assyrians,

5:29

all of that kind of stuff. So I hunted

5:31

and hunted and

5:33

this is again about twenty eleven. and

5:36

there was nothing I could

5:38

find at the time that

5:40

covered that. And

5:42

a little, you know, light went off in

5:44

my head So I started

5:46

working up the idea for a brief

5:49

twelve episode series covering

5:52

ancient Near East Mainly, from

5:54

the period around three thousand BC

5:57

to around five hundred BC.

5:59

So I came up with that idea. I was

6:01

still It was in the early concept

6:03

phase. I was just starting to flush it

6:05

out. Now we cut to

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me on the history of Rome Tour

6:09

interacting with Mike. And

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I think it was the dinner the last

6:14

night of the tour and we were chatting

6:16

and I happened to innocently

6:18

ask him what are you thinking of

6:20

doing, you know, next after history of Rome?

6:23

And, well,

6:25

you know what? I'm actually instead of

6:27

me telling you this story, I

6:29

am lucky enough that I have a clip

6:32

from a very old interview, this is from twenty

6:34

thirteen, where Mike

6:36

Duncan actually relates our conversation

6:38

that we had that night from his

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side. And so

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I am going to insert a clip from that

6:45

right now, so enjoy that.

6:46

So now

6:47

it's really down to you and Dan

6:49

Carlin. If you want a

6:51

history fix, that's where folks have to go.

6:53

Yeah. Well,

6:54

there's I mean, yeah, there's there's other there's other

6:56

stuff that's floating around out there. There's a couple of

6:58

good English history podcasts. Front of mind

7:00

just finished, ancient world,

7:02

which goes sort of all the stuff that's previous

7:04

to Rome -- Mhmm. -- which was I

7:06

think really good. Which

7:08

series was that one? It's the ancient world.

7:10

The ancient world. Okay. Yeah. Scratchy's

7:12

worth. Which was actually that was maybe

7:14

I'll tell the story is that I was actually thinking

7:17

of doing that

7:19

as

7:20

a follow-up to the history of Rome focusing

7:22

on those early civilizations. And

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I knew Scott he came on one of the

7:26

tours and we were talking about it one night

7:28

at dinner and I said, you know, they're asking

7:30

me what what might you do after the history of Rome.

7:32

And I said, oh, you know, maybe I'll do some of the ancient

7:34

civilizations and you just got this like look on his face

7:36

because he was like, I was planning on doing

7:38

that. Oh. Bob's yeah.

7:40

So he so I I gave him I gave him

7:42

why I said if you do it one year,

7:45

you you have one year. And if you don't do it, then

7:47

it's fair game. But then he did it. And it's great.

7:49

He just finished it.

7:51

That is exactly

7:53

what happened. I thought

7:55

within an instant my entire idea had

7:57

been shut down. If Mike was gonna take it

7:59

over, forget it, there's no way I could compete

8:02

with that. But like he said,

8:04

he gave me a year to, you

8:06

know, produce something, get something out,

8:08

or else it was gonna be a topic that was

8:10

fair game. and I kept that deadline

8:12

very seriously in mind. And over the

8:14

next year, I generated the

8:18

initial twelve episode

8:20

outline for the ancient world,

8:22

and I actually released the very first episode

8:25

in April of twenty twelve. So I

8:27

beat his deadline and

8:29

I'm very proud of that. And I've

8:31

essentially been podcasting Eversense.

8:33

So the first series,

8:35

the ancient world, again, as I

8:38

mentioned, started off as a twelve

8:40

episode draft and

8:42

then as I produced it,

8:44

there were more things that

8:46

were interesting to me that I wanted cover and

8:48

didn't want to give short shrift to.

8:50

So long story short, it ended

8:52

up going thirty six episodes.

8:56

I was initially hoping I could

8:58

give more or less equal weight

9:00

to various societies and

9:03

cultures and civilizations across

9:05

the globe. but I

9:07

came pretty quickly across two

9:09

things. One is the

9:12

disparate amount

9:14

of both historical

9:16

records and archaeology

9:19

done. And the other

9:21

is I started

9:23

to gravitate more toward

9:25

where my interest, you know,

9:27

began to really calcify, which

9:30

is the near east

9:32

Eastern Mediterranean, North

9:35

Africa, Anatolia. That's,

9:37

you know, that became the sweet spot

9:40

because it's both intensely fascinating

9:42

to me. And it also has

9:44

a fair amount of good documentary

9:47

as well as you know, archaeological

9:50

sources so that you

9:52

can tell a story

9:54

with characters and events and

9:56

also flesh out the cultures at the

9:58

same time. And of course,

10:00

toward the end of that series, you're

10:02

getting into eras

10:05

and cultures that

10:07

are beginning to intersect

10:09

more with the classical age. You start

10:11

getting into the beginnings

10:13

of the Roman Kingdom and the Roman

10:15

Republic, and you start getting

10:17

into the institution

10:19

of democracy. in Greece at the

10:21

very end. So

10:23

again, my podcast, the intention

10:25

was to give folks kind of a

10:27

broad basic background in

10:29

all of these cultures that preceded

10:33

the classical cultures that maybe

10:35

they were more familiar with. So

10:37

That was the first series. I didn't

10:40

necessarily plan to continue

10:42

podcasting after that, but

10:44

as I was doing that series, one

10:47

thing that came to mind as a

10:49

potential follow-up was

10:52

I found that the stories of how

10:55

all of these ancient civilizations were

10:57

rediscovered in the modern

10:59

era over the last couple centuries There

11:01

were a lot of really interesting stories

11:04

there and a lot of scholarship and a

11:06

lot of adventures and,

11:08

to be honest, a lot of exploitation, a

11:11

lot of things going on that

11:14

told an intertwining set

11:16

of stories that I thought

11:18

would also make a good a good series. That

11:20

would help flesh out the original series

11:22

by, again, kind of, looping back, how were

11:24

these civilizations rediscovered

11:26

in the modern era? So that

11:29

is the impetus for

11:31

the r series, the the

11:33

ancient world rediscovery series.

11:35

Even

11:36

as

11:37

I was producing the

11:40

ancient world rediscovery,

11:42

I was struck with a

11:44

very powerful idea or

11:46

a very powerful shock

11:48

of inspiration. And those

11:50

kind of things don't happen to me very

11:52

much. and it really kind of

11:55

became obsessive in my head very

11:57

quickly. And here's what it was.

11:59

I

11:59

remembered you know, when Mike Duckin was

12:02

covering all of the

12:05

the Severin emperors of Rome,

12:07

I remembered this

12:09

clutch of very

12:11

powerful women from

12:13

the city of MSA, who

12:16

seemed to be in many ways

12:18

the power behind the

12:20

throne for a series

12:22

of Roman emperors. They

12:24

seemed very fascinated they certainly seem

12:26

deserving of their own treatment.

12:28

And I also

12:31

knew that they

12:33

mentioned that their linear,

12:36

their bloodline, went

12:38

back all the way to

12:40

cleopatra, and Mark Anthony,

12:43

which, you know, it sounds

12:45

like something you might just

12:47

say at cocktail parties, but

12:50

as I went to

12:52

research that. It turned

12:54

out that it wasn't all

12:56

that far fetched. There

12:59

are some gaps that need to be

13:01

filled in. There are

13:03

some links in the chain

13:05

about which we do not have

13:08

very solid information. but

13:12

there is a through line.

13:14

And if you wanna create a

13:16

narrative and if you want to

13:18

use it, as a way

13:20

of telling an alternate

13:22

history of the Roman

13:24

empire through the

13:26

eyes of maybe not

13:28

the emperors themselves. And,

13:30

you know, on the other end of the spectrum, maybe

13:32

not the local farmers who

13:35

probably carried very little, you know,

13:37

which which emperor happened to be in power

13:39

as long as their armies didn't

13:41

happen to come tramping through their land.

13:44

but something a bit in the middle, something

13:46

in terms of a noble

13:48

family who would be in

13:50

touch with those who

13:52

were in power in Rome,

13:54

but also at the same time

13:56

they would be grounded in local

13:58

events or politics

14:00

or concerns that might

14:02

be somewhat different than

14:04

those at the center of power.

14:06

So what I decided to do was

14:08

do a series that basically covered

14:11

it eventually ended up being

14:13

ten generations of the

14:15

descendants of Mark Anthony and Cleopatra.

14:19

many of whom were pipe priests,

14:21

nobles, often

14:24

actual kings and queens of

14:26

various territories in North Africa

14:28

and Syria and take

14:30

it all the way up through the

14:34

Severin Emperors of Rome

14:36

and the Emicyne ladies

14:38

that it's so interested to be in the first

14:40

place. So that was, I would

14:42

say, one half of the concept for

14:44

bloodline. The other

14:46

half was also inspired by

14:48

Mike Duncan he did one

14:50

episode called the Paul Myrian

14:52

Wars, which covered the

14:54

wars against the

14:56

Paul Myrian Queen's Inovia. I

14:58

just remember that episode

15:00

being insanely fascinating to

15:02

me. It just, you know, within the

15:04

space of an epic said, we were

15:06

essentially introduced to this fully

15:08

realized Paul

15:10

Meijering Kingdom that

15:13

for a brief period was able

15:15

to stand toe to toe with

15:17

Rome. And I also

15:19

remembered the the factoid

15:21

that Zenobia also claimed

15:23

to be a descendant of cleopatra.

15:25

So my thought was

15:28

maybe If I carry this

15:30

same series forward from the

15:32

emacene women of the Severin

15:34

Dynasty, maybe the linkage can be

15:36

made all the way to Queen

15:38

Xenovia. And there's your series,

15:40

starting with Cleopatra, ending with

15:42

Zenobia, with the

15:44

embassy in women in the as as kind of

15:46

a centerpiece. that was the the inception

15:48

of the Bloodline series. Now,

15:51

as it turned out, Zenobia was

15:53

kind of more making

15:55

cocktail party conversation about

15:57

being the descendant of

15:59

cleopatra. She very, very likely

16:01

was not. But I

16:04

was able to follow the line of the Amazim

16:06

women forward to roughly Zenobia's

16:09

time. Getting that close to

16:11

the era of Zenobia I just

16:13

couldn't not make that the

16:15

climax of the series. And so

16:17

I did go very much into depth

16:19

on the Pine Paul My Reno Wars

16:22

So that series ended

16:24

up being fifty four episodes.

16:26

That's my longest series to date.

16:29

I say to date, you never know. and

16:31

I'm I'm very proud of it. Seems to be a very

16:33

popular series. So

16:35

if you like long form narratives

16:38

about extended family trees

16:40

that pass through the Roman Empire

16:42

period for three hundred years. Bloodline

16:44

might be the series for you.

16:47

So after bloodline wrapped up, I didn't

16:49

want to commit to another super

16:51

long series, at least right

16:53

away. So what

16:55

I focused on next was another

16:57

era that had always interested

16:59

me but always been a

17:01

little bit impenetrable, which

17:03

makes it, you know, a good challenge.

17:06

which is digging deep

17:08

into the Solucid Empire

17:10

and tracing its decline

17:13

and eventual takeover

17:15

by Rome in the

17:17

First Century BC. Now as

17:19

many of you probably know, after

17:21

the conquest of Alexander the Great

17:23

and his subsequent went deaf. His

17:26

empire ended up being fought

17:28

over and eventually carved

17:30

up by some of his leading generals.

17:33

Probably the most famous is

17:35

ptolemy who founded the

17:37

ptolemyk line of Egypt. But

17:39

one that had always fascinated

17:42

me was the empire founded

17:44

by Soluquez the first, the

17:46

Solucent Empire, which

17:49

essentially was made up of

17:51

Alexander's near eastern

17:54

and central Asian and

17:56

for a time, Anatolian

17:59

conquests. It's also the

18:01

empire that eventually started getting

18:04

squeezed between an increasingly assertive

18:06

realm and an expanding Perfian

18:09

empire. While I was

18:11

researching the Solusids, I

18:13

came across this interesting figure,

18:16

cleopatratheia. who was

18:18

the daughter of the

18:20

current ptolemaic rulers,

18:22

ptolemy the sixth and cleopatra

18:25

the second, but also ended up

18:27

marrying a number

18:29

of salucied kings

18:32

and then also fathering

18:34

some Soviet kings and ruling through

18:37

them. And it seemed to me like an interesting

18:39

lens through which to view

18:41

the the climbed of the

18:43

Soviet empire was

18:45

to do it from the

18:47

perspective of this, again, ptolemy

18:49

princess and Solucy Queen,

18:51

who live through so much of

18:53

the history yourself. So

18:56

that was the genesis of the

18:58

ancient world thea series.

19:00

which ran for eighteen episodes. And

19:04

it takes us all the way through

19:06

the events of her life to her

19:08

eventual death. During the course of

19:10

producing that, I got in touch with

19:12

Tristan Hughes of Battles of

19:14

The Ancients, and we got to

19:16

discussing our mutual fascination

19:19

with the with Alexander's and the

19:21

Solucid Conquest in Central

19:24

Asia. And so we thought it might be fun

19:26

to interview each other. I

19:28

would review him on his extensive knowledge

19:30

of Alexander's experiences in

19:32

Central Asia, and then I

19:34

would also talk a

19:37

bit about the early saluted

19:39

emperors and some of their interactions

19:41

with Central Asia.

19:44

So I needed a place to put this and since

19:46

I didn't really have a series that it

19:48

fit in, I created a new

19:50

series called the ancient world

19:52

spotlight. which is intended to

19:54

cover things like one off

19:57

interviews or stand alone episodes, things like

19:59

that, things that don't fit into any

20:01

of the series proper. So

20:04

after completing theta,

20:06

it took me a while to figure out

20:08

what I wanted to tackle next.

20:11

I wanted to pick

20:13

a defined period, and I

20:15

also wanted a series that I

20:17

could really let breathe you

20:20

know, I would I could let go on for as long

20:22

as it felt that there were

20:24

interesting stories to tell.

20:26

So what I ended up landing on

20:30

was the Neohittite

20:33

kingdoms of Northern Syria.

20:35

For those unfamiliar These were a

20:37

few dozen kingdoms that formed

20:40

in the early iron age

20:42

that harkened back to the

20:44

late bronze age hittite empire.

20:47

So the Hittite Empire itself with its

20:49

center in Hetusa had fallen.

20:52

This was the last

20:54

region that could still

20:56

be considered be under hittite

20:58

Imperial Control, which kind

21:00

of endured through the bronze

21:02

age collapse and carried through into

21:05

the iron age. but

21:07

it was also heavily

21:10

influenced by Iranian

21:12

culture, by some

21:14

of the longstanding ancient

21:17

cultures of the region, it made

21:19

for a really interesting mix.

21:21

There was also an appeal here

21:23

that I could revisit and take a much deeper

21:26

dive into the

21:28

Assyrian kings who ruled

21:30

in this phase of the Neo

21:32

Assyrian Empire but I also very

21:34

much wanted to do it

21:36

from not from their perspective, but

21:38

from the perspective of their

21:41

intended victims. who,

21:43

on the one hand, individually, were no

21:46

match for the Neo Syrian Empire.

21:48

But what they did was really interesting,

21:50

which is that they formed coalitions.

21:53

And at times, incredibly

21:55

effective coalitions across

21:57

a wide variety

21:59

of ethnicities, of

22:02

cultures, of interests,

22:04

and of course, in the south of the

22:06

area at the same time. you

22:08

have the kingdoms of Israel and

22:10

Judah nucleating out. You have the

22:12

Arabian kingdoms such as

22:14

Aaron Damascus being intensely powerful

22:17

and during this period.

22:20

So that was the impetus for the

22:22

ancient world card camish podcast,

22:24

which is the series I'm currently

22:26

producing. The season coming

22:28

up, which I have already drafted,

22:30

and I'm very excited about because it's

22:32

gonna be very fun. is

22:34

the season when the

22:36

Neo Assyrians start poking

22:39

back around out west.

22:41

And why it's exciting

22:44

and interesting to me? There's a lot of

22:46

reasons. But a few of the main

22:48

reasons are first, The

22:50

neo Assyrians were

22:52

meticulous documentarians. Essentially,

22:55

if you were not moving very quick

22:57

in the Assyrian Court, you were gonna end up

23:00

with an inscription on you. They were writing

23:02

on everything. They were recording everything.

23:04

It brought an end to

23:06

the regional dark age, at

23:09

least in that respect. It brought

23:11

another kind of dark age, which

23:14

is an intensification of military

23:16

conflict in the region. But

23:18

that also brought about one of the other very

23:20

interesting factors to me, which is

23:23

the building of these Syrian coalitions

23:25

to help defend the

23:29

territory's west of the Iraqis. from

23:31

a Syrian exploitation and a Syrian

23:34

expansion. So that is

23:36

what is coming up

23:38

on the next six episode season of

23:40

the ancient world carchemish, which

23:42

will be starting up again next

23:45

month. Now, there is

23:47

one common theme to all my

23:49

podcast series, which is I have to

23:51

be totally passionate about whatever

23:53

topic I'm covering. It's the only way I

23:55

can spend every night, every weekend,

23:58

etcetera, thinking about

23:59

researching, writing, producing all

24:02

these different series. because I

24:04

can't make it interesting and fun

24:06

for you unless it's interesting and

24:08

fun for me. Over the ten

24:10

years I've been doing the ancient world, I've

24:12

had many many people ask how they can donate to support

24:15

the show. I've mainly

24:17

told them to just spread the

24:19

word because my biggest wish is

24:21

that everyone who might like the show,

24:23

at least gets the chance to try it.

24:26

But I also decided that if

24:28

people want to donate to support

24:30

the show, I wanted to give them a

24:32

way to do it, but

24:34

only if I could give them something a little

24:36

extra back at the same time.

24:39

which is why I finally created

24:41

a Patreon page. You

24:43

can go there right now and check it out.

24:45

It's at patreon dot com forward

24:48

slash the ancient world.

24:50

It is very pretty. I really like

24:52

how it came together. And the

24:54

best part is I can give you guys

24:57

benefit. whether it's just publicly thanking you

24:59

all the way up to letting you choose

25:01

the topic for an ancient world

25:04

spotlight episode. But the

25:06

one I think may grab you the

25:08

most is this. If you join

25:10

at the Lugol tier, and

25:12

yes, of course, I had to use Sumerian

25:15

titles. You'll get access to extra monthly

25:17

mini episodes. And because

25:20

of the subject matter of the

25:22

current series, the many eps for the

25:24

foreseeable future will be deep

25:26

dives into the lives and works

25:28

of the various Neo Assyrian

25:30

kings. So while

25:32

the ancient world car chemish will be

25:34

giving you the story from the Neo Hittite

25:37

side, Patreon subscribers

25:39

will also get to round things out

25:41

with the Assyrian side of the story.

25:43

I've already got a few mini eps lined

25:45

up on Asher Nausert Paul

25:47

II and Chaminaser III.

25:50

and you don't wanna miss out on those. Plus,

25:52

you'll keep getting monthly mini

25:54

eps even when I'm between seasons.

25:57

Now, if you wanna join at the

25:59

ruler of the four quarters tier,

26:02

there are lots of other amazing

26:04

goodies. You

26:05

can find all the information at patreon

26:07

dot com forward slash

26:09

the ancient world.

26:12

I also wanted to let you know that the ancient world

26:14

just joined the Airwave Media

26:16

podcast network, which is home to

26:18

lots of cool history and

26:21

other podcasts. including my

26:23

history can beat up your politics, the

26:25

history of the Great War, the

26:27

Pirate History Podcast, plenty

26:30

of others. You can check out their full

26:32

roster at airwavemedia dot

26:34

com. And just to

26:36

brace you, you will be hearing an

26:38

ad or to at the beginning of each episode.

26:40

Like pretty much every other

26:42

podcast nowadays. I

26:44

also wanted to let you know that

26:46

I really appreciate all the requests I've been

26:49

getting for references and

26:51

maps and other supporting information

26:53

related to all the early

26:55

series. Unfortunately, when

26:57

I migrated my podcast a few

26:59

years back, I broke a bunch of those

27:02

links. But you'll be happy to hear that I've

27:04

been going back populating all my old

27:06

blog posts with that

27:08

information. It's an ongoing

27:10

process, but if you go to ancient

27:12

world podcast dot com,

27:14

you should hopefully be able to find the episode

27:16

and series specific information you're

27:18

looking for. If not, then

27:20

check back again in a bit.

27:23

So that's it.

27:25

Pretty painless. Right? Like I

27:27

mentioned, the new season of the ancient

27:30

world carchemish start up in mid

27:32

October and run for six

27:34

biweekly episodes. So

27:36

if you're digging rings of power or

27:38

house of the dragon, and

27:40

are looking for a non fantasy analogue.

27:43

With I have to admit fewer

27:45

dragons, then early iron

27:47

age Syria just might be the place

27:50

for you. As always, thanks

27:52

for listening. I literally

27:54

could not do this without you.

27:56

And please remember to check out the Patreon

27:59

page. That's it for

28:01

now. See you all in a few weeks.