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pursuing that desire well one obstacle

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specially these days said the high price

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of plane tickets put flying out of reach

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my guess they can help you smelters obstacles you can

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get away more often than scott chi's

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is the founder scots cheap flights and the author

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of take more vacation had search better

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bookkeepers travel the world save

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show scots years has scoring she fly still

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be travel more often the advantages of taking

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more frequent vacations and psychological

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benefit of any your trips well in advance

1:24

within get the misconceptions people have about

1:26

tic pressing for married her discuss strategies

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for booking cheap flights in with why recommends

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adopting flight first rather

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than destination first fruits sculptures

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the goldilocks time window would she fights are

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most likely to pop up the benefits of

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building flexibility your itinerary the

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days are typically keepers fly in

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his favor search site to look for flights

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he also explains how these the twenty four hour rule

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southwest airlines is arbitraging getting

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better prices on your tickets and how employ what

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called the greek island strategy to save

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more money would fly internationally winter

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conversation with how to take advantage of mistake bears

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and whether high price your season the summer are here

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to stay out shows over check initiated

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the

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alright scott guys walking the show thank

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you so much for had me i'm excited to be here so you

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are the sounders scots cheap flights

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were you highlight cheap flights

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that out there you become the guru at

2:30

finding really cheap flights the

2:32

a new book out were you highlight

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all the tips have you learned over years of

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finding cheapflights how did this happen how

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did you end up becoming the cheap flights guru

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what started off when i went to school on studied

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cheapflights got my degree you

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know in safe flight all genes then

2:48

and now i actually this was all a very

2:50

serendipitous occurrence for me

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i never in my wife

2:55

would have imagined that would become an

2:57

entrepreneur much less a cheap flight

2:59

entrepreneur i studied writing

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and political science in college i

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was a journalist for while in previous

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life and a really fun of

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misshapen backwards into this

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life where you know they say that

3:11

necessity as the mother of invention well

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i was somebody who out of college had huge

3:16

dreams of wanting to travel to europe

3:18

and asia and elsewhere but basically

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no money to do it and so i

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knew somehow people

3:25

were out there getting cheap flights but

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the time i have no idea how they were

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doing it every time i was searching for

3:31

flights it was like they all were expensive

3:34

you know on affordable how how were

3:36

people doing this and so what

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are you ended up doing was really kind of putting

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on that journalists hatton scratching

3:42

that it's of why is it that

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air fare is so volatiles

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how do you put yourself in a position to

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get those cheap flights when they pop up this

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all been culminated a year

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or two later when got what is still

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to this day probably the single best

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deal that i've ever for the only gotten

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that was nonstop from new york city

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to milan for a hundred thirty

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dollars round trip this

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, a steel there's probably

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a flight that they meant to sell for thirteen

4:11

hundred dollars and forgot his zero at the

4:13

end but when i'd booked

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it it was one hundred thirty dollars and was probably

4:18

the best yoga forgotten and so by

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taking this this wonderful trip to

4:22

northern italy and gone skiing in the

4:24

alps and hiking in sync with terrorists not

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only did i end up having this wonderful

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incredible triple when got back on

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my i guess worded spread told my friends

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and coworkers they kept coming up to me

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he's got in i heard about that great deal

4:37

you gotta listen next

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time you find a deal like that can you add me

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know so can get in on it too and so

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rather than trying to remember every single

4:47

person i needed to let know next time found

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deal at said well why don't i just make

4:51

simple little email list and this way i

4:53

can let everybody know at the same time

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in that moment scouts two plates was born

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but i had no idea because i wasn't

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an aspiring entrepreneur at the time out

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to somebody who wanted to solve this

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problem of letting everybody know when found

5:06

cheap flights and but then over the next year

5:08

or two it grew and grew until

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it's finally time to to think about turning it

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into an actual business here

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we are today talking the about cheapflights

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exactly eat look everybody else says

5:20

they have coolest job in world but i get

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to find cheap flights every single day

5:24

and help people take make their vacation

5:26

dreams come true so i would

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at least like to put my hat in the ring

5:30

for that one to with your help people

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find she points not for the sake of finding cheap

5:35

flights the you're really passionate about

5:37

this cause you want people to take more

5:39

vacations backers the tallied your latest book

5:41

called take more vacations with

5:43

i got that like why do you think people particularly

5:45

americans

5:46

the you take more vacation like what is state of

5:48

vacationing for americans

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that are few reasons why first reason

5:53

why is because everybody says they want to everybody

5:56

says you know traveling and seeking more

5:58

vacation it's one of the time new years resolutions

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every year it's one of the tops of when

6:03

you look at survey data of what people want to do when

6:05

they retire it's always up their number

6:07

one number two everybody

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desires to take more vacations

6:12

than they actually do when

6:14

you look at the state are on how

6:16

many vacation days people have actually

6:18

been taking it's basically been on downward

6:21

slide for past twenty five years you

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know in the late nineties people were taking

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on average twenty one days vacation a

6:27

year and the most recent data was

6:29

more like seventeen days

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sixteen days and for millennials

6:33

susan are under fifteen days per

6:35

year of vacation so everybody

6:37

wants to take more and

6:39

yet we're taking less and less

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and so part of it was to figure out

6:44

why is that the case why isn't

6:46

our actions lining up with

6:48

our desires and

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one of the things that's i really a

6:52

was struck by is how much

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the stress and complexity

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of trying to book flights is

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weighing on people's ability to take

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vacations that's because

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air fares the single most fall with

7:06

file thing that most people purchase

7:09

that the hands of leading to a ton

7:11

of stress it is you know is planning

7:13

a paradox we both the most enjoyable

7:15

part of trip but also most stressful

7:18

part for most people and i think

7:20

that's actually causing people to take fewer

7:22

vacations than they would otherwise

7:24

because they seem to only

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see expensive flights because they

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don't know if i don't know if i see

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this fair today should book it will go

7:32

up tomorrow will go down how about

7:34

a month from now it ends up just

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leaving people read much more anxious

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about an activity that is theoretically supposed

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be one that supposed take their anxieties

7:44

away and so personally

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i just trying to the rudest thing in service

7:49

of what people say they want but really

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at the end of the day the reason

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why i think people ought it's sheikh more

7:56

vacations is because i

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think you wind up enjoying those occasions

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a lot more as a result

8:03

people are thing maker a mistake of

8:05

thinking of travel and thinking of

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vacation as just something that you go

8:09

do to relax that you know sit

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on the beach and and take your tears when

8:13

that's that's fine there's nothing wrong with sipping

8:15

a cocktail on the beach but i

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would argue that traveling invocations

8:19

direction more like muscle where the more

8:22

you do it be better you

8:24

get at matching the types

8:26

of destinations the types of trips and

8:28

the types of activities to your individual

8:31

personality and so what mean by that

8:33

is when you look at people's satisfaction

8:35

with their vacations over time it actually

8:37

goes up as they take more vacations

8:40

because they get better at figuring out

8:42

will i enjoy a trip to

8:45

the center of paris or the hustle and bustle

8:47

or what i prefer something more in the countryside

8:50

would i would like to travel to somewhere where

8:52

there's maybe a ton of pedestrian

8:55

infrastructure weapon walk around and would i rather

8:57

be somewhere were there

8:59

it was very kind of nature focus

9:01

there are tons of different types of trips

9:03

out there that folks can takes but it's difficult

9:06

to figure out which one right for you until

9:08

you start to just take more of them and

9:10

tested out and see what you what

9:12

five most was the you rather

9:14

than what bugs most was the average

9:16

traveler and in finding cheap flights

9:18

allows you to take more vacations a

9:20

most people you know because flights

9:23

they think i'm in are so expensive i

9:25

can we take one big vacation year

9:27

and because you're we do it one time you're you're you're able

9:29

find out what do i really like and it also i

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think take that one big vacation year it

9:34

puts a lot of

9:35

pressure on a vacation get has to if it's

9:37

not out the parks you're going be disappointed

9:39

me i just waste lot of money at times

9:41

but if you take smaller cheaper vacations

9:44

you trees that his you have no better time

9:46

yeah that was one of the biggest revelations from

9:48

me on this one hundred thirty dollar trip

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to milan was that because

9:53

i got such a deal on

9:55

the flight over the entire

9:58

experience of the there's

10:00

so much different it was like this weight

10:02

had been lifted off my shoulders where

10:05

everything felt like it's just had

10:07

a halo two it had some salt added

10:09

i didn't have that pressure to enjoy

10:11

myself and every single minute could

10:14

relax and and kind of take

10:16

things bit slower i could

10:18

anchorage spend little bit more aren't you know

10:20

could get that truffle linguine i could buy

10:22

that first class train ticket rather

10:24

than sitting in coach acted you know splurge

10:27

on the better seats for the

10:29

ac milan soccer match like acted do

10:31

these things because i had saved so

10:33

much on the flight over there and

10:35

so the cheaper this flights

10:38

i think the better you time you end

10:40

up having on the vacation self because

10:42

you can take that money saved and

10:44

devoted towards having better trip but also because

10:46

you don't have the same sort of pressure so

10:49

think it works both on a financial

10:51

standpoint and as

10:53

mentioned on the sort quantity

10:55

of vacation standpoint if you take one

10:58

big trip a year that's putting a lot of

11:00

pressure on that trip to enjoy

11:02

it's making sure that this is a

11:04

all that sort anticipation and pressure

11:06

on this one trip and then

11:08

you know maybe you get there an things

11:10

don't go as planned maybe there's thunderstorms

11:13

maybe you missed the boat the

11:15

flight or something yeah i don't know you

11:17

gets you lose your wallet like things

11:19

happen on travel were all of sudden if

11:21

it happens during his one scripts that's

11:23

your entire vacation budget

11:26

time budget for the year whereas

11:28

if you break that time up into two

11:30

three four trips on the year

11:33

not only is it much more spread

11:35

out but then or the hangover

11:37

of coming out coming back home from

11:39

your vacations is just much

11:41

different experience when you come back from

11:43

that's one big trip and

11:45

it's forty nine weeks until

11:47

your next vacation buddy that

11:49

is a tough tough outlook but

11:52

as if you come back it's just three months

11:54

until your next trip what that's

11:56

totally doable you can already get busy

11:58

planning planning out you're gonna do

12:00

it three months from now on your next trip and so that's

12:02

why i'm such an advocates of taking

12:04

more vacations using cheapflights

12:07

as way to get them and

12:09

then being able to not only enjoy

12:11

yourself more on the trips but also being

12:13

able to test out the places that

12:15

you go further down the

12:17

list of you have one trip a year

12:19

you probably have to go to the big hits you go

12:21

to paris and london and tokyo

12:24

but if you have three or four trips a year

12:26

you can take a chance you can take flier on

12:28

going to albania to you

12:30

know trinidad and tobago to taiwan

12:32

places that are and a further down the

12:34

traditional list but might actually speak lot

12:37

to you personally in some of

12:39

best trips i've had have been those sort of be

12:41

less seamless places that

12:43

not at that's for top of traditional

12:46

tourists circuit but been some

12:48

my favorite trips to trinidad tobago

12:50

to taiwan to lithuania

12:52

and i'm so glad i was able to

12:54

to to see those places which might not

12:56

have this i only traveled once a year

12:59

yes , think the like to when you have a big big

13:01

hits you go there you go for

13:03

like pictures i've seen on the internet has

13:07

had of letdown yeah

13:09

yes it you know something like the eiffel tower

13:12

the mona lisa towers wasn't exactly

13:14

like i expected to move the turkey's

13:16

it's leaning er it's it's

13:19

, easy i like to so there's all these other side

13:21

like this research about when you take vacations it's

13:23

creepy or psychological health is group your physical

13:25

health the you devoted this chapter about

13:28

the anticipation factor of it isn't so

13:30

how how in thinking about going

13:32

on vacation actually less time with

13:34

the most enjoyable parts but let me tie belly what happens

13:36

when you had some than look forward to that fox

13:40

make when thinking about frau boys

13:42

we only think about travel as much

13:44

happens on that script itself you've got

13:47

seven day trip to costa

13:49

rica and you just think about it during

13:51

those seven days but you actually look at the

13:53

research of how people

13:55

tend to enjoy their

13:57

travels it turns out we actually get war

14:00

happiness and more joy in

14:02

the weeks and months leading up to a

14:04

trip then we do on trip itself

14:07

and we actually get more joy the

14:10

weeks and months after a trip looking

14:12

back on it than we did on the trip itself

14:14

not much that we don't enjoy the

14:16

actual trip itself we do but we

14:18

get even more happiness before

14:21

and after a trip and i think a

14:23

lot of folks may be do themselves a disservice

14:26

by buying into this idea

14:28

of like our romantic you know last minute

14:30

get away on just gonna put something for this

14:32

weekend and go it's a much the

14:34

time there's nothing wrong said i like being

14:36

able to be spontaneous sometimes but think

14:38

that undercuts the some the ways

14:40

that you can really enjoy your vacation

14:42

by planning it further out

14:45

and giving your today cells

14:47

the joy of that anticipation of looking

14:49

forward to it you know the great

14:52

thing about daydreams is nothing goes wrong

14:54

in them when you're at your on that

14:56

trip to costa rica i don't know you know maybe

14:58

as the thunderstorms may be

15:00

hang on that you get too close to some bad

15:02

animal in the jungle taxi

15:05

driver likes ripped you off something

15:07

like that but when you're months

15:09

out from that trip to months out in your daydreaming

15:11

about heightened through the jungle exploring

15:14

the countryside going to those coffee

15:16

farms and those beaches nothing

15:19

is happening wrong in those in those daydreams

15:21

and so that's why we tend to actually

15:23

enjoy the anticipation of travel

15:26

more than the trip itself and why think

15:28

that folks should be taking more

15:30

efforts of booking their travels further

15:32

in advance and booking more of them so that

15:34

way rather than just trying

15:37

to book a trip a week

15:39

before and then take it and then there's a

15:41

hangover we've got nothing to look forward

15:43

to for months on end and

15:45

said book those trips three months out

15:47

six months our i think they've always got

15:49

it trips both three or six

15:51

months out so i have something to look forward

15:54

to today that can be excited

15:56

about in the future or

15:58

as those type how we can take more trips

16:00

the plane tickets are usually the most expensive

16:02

costs and vacation especially

16:05

now observe people have tried to plant slice

16:07

looking at it is like my gosh like sticker

16:09

shock it's like what's going on so

16:11

it before we dig into

16:13

how to find she plays think it helped listeners

16:16

to have a big picture overview of

16:18

why plane ticket prices

16:20

are so volatile mean you check you

16:22

can check one day and it's this price and then few

16:24

hours later it's like ten times higher

16:27

you check and you see like an international flight

16:29

is cheaper flight that a domestic flights

16:31

what's going on there why wire prices

16:33

so all over the place yeah

16:36

airfares the most volatile

16:38

thing that most people purchase and

16:40

it's something that's really important to

16:43

not fall prey to some of the classic

16:45

mistakes that folks make of assuming

16:48

that airfare is static

16:50

lot of folks of thing well you know flight

16:52

from what's a new york to l a supposed

16:54

costs three hundred dollars

16:56

when in reality it's it's wide range

16:59

that it's constantly swinging

17:01

up in swinging down the reason

17:04

why air fares so volatiles

17:06

as a few unique characteristics to

17:08

it that's unlike other things we purchase

17:11

it is what's called rival good when

17:13

i buy a seat on flight nobody

17:15

else can buy that see israel

17:17

or if i get nobody else gets it's there's

17:20

what's called spoilage so

17:22

any unfilled seats when the door

17:24

closes for that flight are spoiled

17:26

they get no money for those of there's an expiration

17:29

dates and there's unpredictability

17:31

of if or when travelers are actually

17:33

going to book those flights

17:35

and south's airlines have to try

17:37

to constantly be adjusting their place

17:40

in anticipation that you know how

17:42

many folks going book that flight to

17:44

l a if it's at three hundred dollars have three

17:46

months outs not enough okay we

17:48

need to cut to to fifty oh

17:50

we're selling plenty we can jack up price

17:53

it's a very sort of volatiles set

17:55

of circumstances and so the

17:58

biggest thing met think as rumors

18:00

you can do is stop

18:02

thinking of airfare and

18:05

flight tickets as something like

18:07

gallon of where we

18:09

think of air for you know when you think of a

18:11

gallon of milk go to the grocery stores

18:14

price yesterday is gonna be about

18:16

price tag which is gonna be about

18:18

the price tomorrow and

18:20

the price the to pay for a gallon of milk

18:23

there is basically gonna be contingent how

18:25

much milk you're actually getting you know at

18:27

half gallon is going be a little bit

18:29

more than half the price of

18:31

four gallons etc but airfares

18:34

nothing like either of those

18:36

to give you one example i was member looking

18:38

once had flight from atlanta to amsterdam

18:41

this is flight over memorial day

18:43

believe and on monday when research sport

18:45

it was eight hundred dollars round trip on

18:48

tuesday when we searched for the same flights

18:50

it was three hundred dollars round trip

18:53

and on wednesday when we searched for the same point

18:55

it was thirteen hundred dollars round

18:57

trip and sort of have the airforce

18:59

have these wild swings where it's

19:01

not just like slowly creeping up

19:03

down it can change by an even

19:06

orders magnitude day by

19:08

day and so that the best thing

19:10

you can to it's consumer many cases

19:12

is to remember that today's

19:14

expensive flight can be tomorrow's cheap

19:16

flight and vice versa when fares

19:18

are expensive be place and when

19:20

they're cheap pull the trigger quickly

19:23

because that could change tomorrow

19:25

and then the last thing i would say on this is

19:27

you know we talked about how the price milk is larger

19:29

continue with how much your by airfares

19:32

not like that i remember

19:34

looking at a flight last year from

19:36

there were fears available from pittsburgh

19:38

to tokyo for two hundred and two dollars

19:41

round trip this is an incredible

19:43

fair obviously but i do know

19:45

where else was available to fly from pittsburgh

19:47

for two hundred two dollars on the same date

19:50

philadelphia fans are you with

19:52

the exact same price for the exact

19:54

same wildly wildly

19:57

different amounts of slight distance

19:59

himself getting it out your head that oh the

20:01

how for you fly has a direct relationship

20:04

with how much you can expect to pay that's

20:06

not the case with air fare think

20:08

a lot of my jobs really trying to get

20:11

focused on learn those mistakes

20:13

or unlearn they're sort of assumptions about

20:15

what air for supposed to be

20:17

any other common misconceptions see other besides

20:20

you know ticket price been correlated the

20:22

trips distance any big other big

20:24

ones you see that kind of mess people

20:26

oh goodness clearing your cookies incognito

20:29

window people swear by this

20:31

i mean if a i cannot tell you

20:34

how often i get your yelled at

20:36

my face that i am absolutely wrong

20:38

on this one that it's totally matters you

20:41

have to clear cookies i want to

20:43

had tested this once to see you

20:45

know does it show a different fair the thinking

20:47

beings oh of the airlines can see

20:49

real years searching for the slaves

20:51

than maybe they'll jack up the price to try to

20:53

get much money from you as possible so when

20:55

haven't tested at once a search for flight

20:57

from denver to london october

21:00

six the thirteenth and if the fair came

21:02

back as four hundred forty two dollars round trip

21:04

a search the second time born to forty

21:06

two dollars round trips assert i'd i'd

21:08

accept ours my date asserts as a hundred

21:11

times in a row and

21:13

lo and behold on the hundreds time just

21:15

like the first time it was still four hundred and forty

21:17

two dollars round trip i

21:19

think the mistake people make is

21:22

a sort of truman show ask them where

21:24

where they see sometimes fares

21:26

change when you are searching for them

21:28

and that's because air for bike with mention

21:30

is extremely volatiles

21:32

but it's not because the airlines are watching

21:35

you you know the individual

21:37

brett searching for these flights in deciding

21:39

all we know we're going jack up the price on of it's

21:41

because air force always changing

21:44

and in fact think the logic is actually backwards

21:46

in some ways because the way the most companies

21:49

work is that if you engage

21:51

in what's called an abandoned cars essential

21:53

you you're not you're looking at a pair of pants

21:55

from levi's you click on

21:57

it but then you don't ultimately purchase it the

22:00

way to quit on it they see

22:02

that she didn't buy it's their solution is

22:04

not to jack up the price on those

22:06

pants their solution instead is usually

22:08

the hit you with a coupon code or some

22:10

other way of discounting the price to try get

22:12

you to purchase in the first place

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back to the show i'll talk

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about some tactics to find she flies in

24:36

you say most people when they search for a

24:38

flight they , a destination

24:40

first approach when finding flights but

24:42

you argue that if want find a cheap flights

24:45

flights need to take a flight first approach

24:48

to walk through difference between this do and how

24:50

does a slight first approach help find

24:52

cheaper deals shirt so let's

24:54

say you know you're planning you know

24:56

vacation britain and and no way

24:59

if you plan your vacation like

25:01

most people you use

25:03

was quoted destination first approach

25:05

and so probably looks something like this tell

25:07

me if i'm if i'm off base here besides

25:10

first where do you wanna go

25:12

oh you know the a paris it's it

25:14

i've had it on my list for wild

25:16

seems great life and

25:18

i just saw some instagram somebody

25:21

their seconds and great photos the

25:23

eiffel tower i would love to

25:25

go to paris so you decide okay paris

25:27

is the play and then second

25:29

will when is a good time to go to

25:31

paris when do we have off or we could go

25:33

like in the middle of august captain

25:36

time off work then what's choose about

25:38

august fifteenth or twenty second

25:40

that be perfect to go to okay we're gonna

25:42

go to paris august fifteen to twenty second

25:45

step three let's look

25:47

what the airfare costs and

25:49

by already choosing the destination

25:52

and already choosing the dates and

25:54

then going to search for the fares

25:56

the end result most the time is

25:58

pre expense the flights

26:01

a member left wondering why heck are flights

26:03

always so damn expensive and

26:05

, instead when i would i recommend

26:07

folks is if you

26:09

wanna get cheap flights of cheap flights are

26:11

really flights priority don't

26:14

make them feel last priority

26:16

in those in the way that you did this three step

26:19

approach of the destination first approach

26:21

instead make up the top priorities

26:24

take that same three step process

26:26

and slip it on it's head step

26:28

one is what call the flight first approach

26:31

stuff one where are their cheap

26:33

flights available from my home airport

26:35

right now what are you live

26:37

in in los angeles just in the past week

26:39

there were flights from l a x to

26:42

hawaii for a hundred and sixty dollars

26:44

round trip their flights for l a x

26:46

down to costa rica for i believe two

26:48

hundred forty dollars round trip or

26:51

over to barcelona

26:53

of for three eighty five round

26:55

trip oh man would love

26:57

to go to hawaii like all those

26:59

some great but hawaii seems really

27:01

really awesome so and step to decide

27:03

of those places where cheap which

27:05

one interest me the most shows

27:07

hawaii of those threats step three

27:09

what dates work for my schedule that have

27:11

those cheap fares available oh we

27:13

could go august seventeen to twenty fourth

27:15

i see this hundred sixty all affairs available

27:18

then let's do it that way and

27:20

soaks it's the same three steps

27:22

but just a reordering and

27:24

putting cheap flights as the top priority

27:26

rather than the last priority that's

27:29

how you end up being able to get

27:31

cheap flights and being able to take three

27:33

or four vacations for the same price

27:35

you use to pay for one i

27:38

think the mistake a lot of folks make

27:40

is getting their heart set on one

27:42

destination at the expense of

27:44

all their options when

27:46

in reality i think most people would are

27:48

like me that love to see most

27:51

places in the world and you

27:53

know it's just a matter of when to go

27:55

visit them and alec to use cheap flights

27:57

is kind of the determinant they're like if

27:59

there the cheap flight available right now to hawaii

28:02

great i'm gonna hop on that even it's first

28:04

three six months from now knowing

28:06

that curious isn't going anywhere it'll

28:08

still be there next time we

28:10

show up in i think i think lot

28:12

of folks approach travel planning

28:15

and flight searching as though they're showing

28:17

up at a restaurant and

28:19

the waiter offers them the menu and they just

28:21

wave it away and say none and on going

28:23

have philemon young players don't even look

28:25

at the price and then you know get little

28:28

surprised when the bill comes and

28:30

and they just about the most expensive

28:32

dinner that they've had in month instead

28:34

your like to look for those bark and look

28:36

for those values and remembering that

28:39

the availability of cheapflights

28:41

not something that's a static it's not

28:43

that there's one price from l

28:45

a to paris maybe it's expensive

28:47

right now sung a book somewhere else but maybe

28:49

later this year it ends of popping up a

28:51

pretty cheap and i can take advantage of it then

28:54

no i love this technique to is that it injects

28:57

and serendipity in your life rags you see oh

28:59

i never would have thought of going to costa rica but it's

29:01

only hundred fifty bucks i'll go do that

29:04

that that that's exactly right look that script

29:06

milan that one hundred thirty dollar flight that i took

29:08

i woke up that morning with zero

29:11

intention of booking flight to italy

29:13

that day it was not something that was

29:15

on my mind at all i

29:17

am not fashionable person if you saw me

29:19

right now right am in shorts and and shirt

29:21

and looking little bit slovenly frankly

29:23

to go to such a a you know fashion

29:25

forward place but for a hundred and

29:27

thirty dollars round trip i mean there's basically

29:30

no in world but i wouldn't go

29:32

and then once yet they're realizing

29:34

older all these like kind of hidden gems

29:37

in area like popped up to lake como

29:39

went hike in sync with tara when skiing

29:41

in the alps went to an ac milan know

29:43

champions league game it was so

29:46

much fun in a way that again totally

29:48

serendipitous that rather

29:50

than if i had sort of for scripted

29:52

everything from the get go and that kind

29:54

of looked at map and said okay i'm going

29:56

to see or and then just hoping and

29:58

praying that cheap fares up and by

30:00

again putting that that prices

30:02

the top priority it left

30:04

my wallet still so flush that i could

30:07

be

30:08

doing it again you know a few months from

30:10

then and and continuing to us

30:12

take more and more trips each year okay

30:14

so the first technique or you get new

30:16

paradigm city for lot people look

30:19

for the flight first look for the cheapest fly first

30:21

and then take your destination but let's

30:23

say someone needs take destination

30:25

first approach to funny fight like city

30:27

got a a wedding the other go to for

30:29

example what what are some things

30:31

you could do to still find

30:33

cheap flights even though you've got

30:35

a destination mind for

30:37

right look flexibility is

30:39

the single most important thing you can do for

30:41

yourself to get cheap flights but

30:43

it's not be or you know you don't have

30:46

always have a ton of flexibility

30:48

never trip sometimes you've got that wedding

30:50

where you don't have control over the destination

30:53

you don't have control over the dates

30:55

and you'd still like make sure that you know

30:57

not tanks and arm and leg to for

30:59

those flights and so even

31:01

in those situations you saw have

31:04

a lot control over at making sure you

31:06

get the best deal possible the

31:08

single most important thing you can do

31:10

for those trips were you don't have much

31:12

flexibility is to get the timing

31:15

of your booking right i used

31:17

this technique called the goldilocks

31:19

windows approach so

31:21

what's this idea is is that there

31:24

are certain windows in advance

31:26

of purchase when cheap flights are most

31:28

likely to pop up if

31:30

traveling domestically to say about one

31:33

to three months in advance as much she flight

31:35

is most likely to pop up if

31:37

you're traveling internationally about

31:39

two to eight months it's a much larger window

31:41

when the cheap flights most likely to pop

31:43

up and you're traveling during up seek

31:45

travel period middle of summer

31:48

christmas new years something like that you

31:50

need to add few months to those recommendations

31:52

so advance planning is is especially

31:55

critical he a few don't

31:57

have any flexibility about where or

31:59

when you go or even

32:01

then you know trying to make

32:03

sure that you are not only getting

32:05

to taking of your booking like

32:07

but that your taking advantage of another like

32:10

live can of knock is that can help get

32:12

you a cheaper flight make you are

32:15

you willing to out are subtract a

32:17

to youre trying of favorite are significantly

32:20

cheaper less a you live in

32:22

philadelphia are you willing to

32:24

you keep and a on cheap flight out of normal

32:26

are out of but of you are are you washington

32:29

detroit the favorite are significantly

32:31

cheaper than out of are family

32:33

are willing to make sure you

32:35

check out best are can separately

32:37

because the favorite to shop on flight

32:39

sure engines the live

32:41

can of live one to tracks

32:43

like that to make sure that your still

32:45

getting best your possible in in

32:48

this instances where you have much less

32:50

flexibility than normal vacation

32:53

one , example of your booking

32:55

intentional of out the airport you flight out that

32:57

can that can knock on in one case

32:59

that intentional flight knock like thousands

33:02

of dollars of advantage because

33:04

one to the are drive to a a

33:06

detroit airport your this your

33:08

my favorite this one of my favorite stories

33:10

one of people interviewed for my booking taking

33:12

where vacation washington live willing

33:14

sure are sure family of five the

33:16

live outside detroit michigan to detroit

33:19

the one airport she had

33:21

always wanted to take family or out

33:23

to bali but flights from detroit

33:25

to bali are normally like twenty

33:27

five hundred dollars somewhere in that

33:30

in that ball parks and so family

33:32

of five we're talking twelve thousand

33:34

five hundred dollars just for the slice

33:37

and so that was of course

33:39

i'd totally out of question but

33:41

all of sudden one day she got an alert

33:43

from scratch he fights that fares to

33:46

bali had popped up for five

33:48

hundred and fifty dollars out of chicago

33:50

now what was interesting was

33:53

you chicago's obviously not her home airports

33:55

but she could buy five tickets

33:58

for flight out of chicago go to bali

34:00

for the same price but would cost for one

34:03

tickets out of detroit to

34:05

bali and so the question then what is

34:07

it worth it like it's not his

34:10

detroit more convenient to

34:12

fly out of then chicago

34:14

but is it ten thousand dollars

34:16

more convenience and that's pretty

34:19

like like that's a pretty easy question

34:21

especially for a family five so what they did

34:23

was just they bought those five

34:25

tickets from chicago to bali they

34:28

hopped in the car they drove the

34:30

you know three or four hours whatever is to

34:32

drive from detroit to chicago

34:35

and caught the flight there and the funny

34:37

thing about it was because it's it's

34:39

a much simpler itinerary from

34:41

chicago to choose justice believe

34:43

it was chicago too high pay

34:46

them down to bali with a pretty brief

34:48

layover was actually going be

34:50

sword or travel time total

34:53

even with the drive over to chicago

34:56

then if they were to book a flight out detroit

34:58

that had to connections hmong

35:00

layovers the were putting the site

35:03

you if she had if see him

35:05

some friends had booked their flights their friends

35:07

were flying out of detroit and she was flying of chicago

35:09

even with the drive over she would

35:12

gotten their three four hours earlier been

35:14

able to get , take

35:16

some surf lessons hang out

35:18

at the pool waiting for their friends flying

35:20

out detroit to actually get bali and

35:22

meet them so not only can it sometime save

35:24

you a ton of money to keep

35:26

an eye on nearby airports it can even

35:28

sometimes actually save you time as well

35:31

well is i think if you don't have any flexibility

35:33

on your destination or the or against

35:36

the trick is finally to inject flexibility

35:38

in your travel plans whether that's changing the airport

35:41

you fly out of or maybe even airport

35:43

you fly into and yet maybe drive

35:45

a few hours or be flexible

35:47

and he of when you fly and maybe

35:49

six you get their little bit earlier to

35:51

the tickets were cheaper we leave

35:54

a little bit later that's right look

35:56

right took a trip once to norway

35:59

as flying out of at washington d

36:01

c

36:02

flights from d c to norway

36:04

at the time works i mean of seven

36:06

hundred eight hundred bucks like it wasn't

36:08

cheap but what i ended stumbling

36:10

across was a flight from

36:12

d c to brussels in belgium

36:15

for two hundred and twenty five dollars roundtrip

36:17

once i got to brussels being able

36:19

to cats out you know but your flight up to

36:21

us lox was like fifty dollars

36:24

and so by pairing a cheap

36:26

flight across the atlantic with them it's

36:28

a cheap flights within europe

36:31

i was able to save for five hundred

36:33

dollars off what would have cost book

36:35

as a single itinerary from d

36:37

c to oslo what was

36:39

especially great about splitting

36:41

up way wasn't just the money savings in men

36:43

also that's a to take some time

36:45

to explore brussels before

36:48

my flight up to oslo in size

36:50

space it out

36:51

by day or two got to basically

36:53

get free layover in belgium

36:55

hang out you know have some good waffles some

36:57

great fries you know see the the weird

36:59

mannequin pis statue like it was it it

37:01

was awesome it was the you know i didn't

37:04

pay like forty eight hours with the perfect amount

37:06

time to to spend on that trip and then

37:08

continue on to my final destination

37:11

so again you're giving your i

37:13

i think lot of times people unintentionally

37:16

kneecap themselves by thinking of flexibility

37:18

as binary either you're totally

37:20

flexible or you zero flexibility

37:23

when in reality it's much more of a spectrum

37:25

it's much more of dimmer switch you have

37:27

some amount of flexibility and trying to take

37:29

advantage of it where you can to

37:31

get cheaper flights without having

37:33

to without having to always

37:36

have like on the one hundred per cent

37:38

flexibility that made the you did as a

37:40

solo traveler in your early twenties taking

37:42

vacation okay and so to reiterate

37:44

to there's the goldilocks model

37:47

for when you want to buy a ticket and that's like in

37:49

one month to three months out for most

37:51

flights it's going be a little longer if

37:53

you're trying to plan of flight a peak

37:55

flight season in for bunch of complicated

37:58

reasons talk about the book and this i thought the the really interesting

38:01

flights usually

38:03

are cheaper if you book them more than three months

38:05

out and then you'd also want with

38:07

the last minute because airlines are counting

38:09

on business travelers who they don't

38:11

care about the price because the other the company's

38:14

paying for it they gotta make it to meeting regardless

38:17

said they're cutting of them to buy that the

38:19

last minute tickets so it's always gonna

38:21

be really expensive last minute

38:23

so you take away fall goldilocks model one

38:25

of three months out buy your tickets and

38:27

it as you mentioned i think some people think

38:30

if you put your flight the on this day

38:32

or on certain day you're gonna

38:34

find the cheapest flights and you said with that

38:36

used to be the case you know a long time

38:38

ago but that's not the case anymore yeah

38:40

this is one of those misconceptions were twenty

38:42

years ago when airlines first started selling

38:45

their tickets online they

38:47

really would love their fares once fares week

38:49

at at determined time like say tuesday

38:51

at one pm and if you

38:53

are one of the first people to book flights after

38:55

that happened you really could get some you they had

38:58

very limited number of cheap flights and you could

39:00

really ticket manage the problem is

39:02

that that is not how airlines have price

39:04

their tickets for years now nowadays

39:07

airfare set algorithmically it's

39:09

it's changing by the day if not by the

39:11

hour and so while there's

39:13

no pre determined time when

39:15

of flights are cheapest top book

39:17

there are cheaper days generally

39:20

to fly we talked about this

39:22

business travelers vs leisure travelers

39:24

the cheapest a to fly are typically

39:27

tuesday wednesday and saturday

39:30

those are more often than not going

39:32

to be cheaper it's not a hundred percent of the time

39:34

i to think of it kind of as a as

39:36

as something a batting line look when

39:38

le bron steps on a basketball court is

39:40

usually favored to win but that doesn't mean he's

39:42

never lost a game aside the same

39:45

with cheapest days a week to fly

39:47

they did usually those gonna be cheaper

39:49

but sometimes you'll see cheap flights pop up

39:51

on mondays are sundays are or

39:53

friday's it's just little bit less

39:55

likely and what about seasonality

39:58

around prices mm sir it's summer time

40:00

is probably the most expensive time fly whether

40:03

or their peers to fly when it's cheaper they know

40:05

is you in the book you cyber how flying

40:07

thanksgiving week in the united states is

40:09

often really expensive but it

40:11

can be the best we travel internationally

40:14

so a meter the any other periods like that the

40:16

fly when it's cheaper absolutely

40:18

looks summer and and christmas new

40:20

years or the two most expensive times of year

40:22

to fly summer is inexpensive

40:25

time of year to fly because you have

40:27

the students teachers

40:30

families with kids in school who can only

40:32

travel around the academic calendar that

40:34

sort of funneling of demand ends

40:36

up leading to much more expensive tickets

40:39

whereas if you have the flexibility

40:41

for schedule allows you to travel

40:44

in the fall in winter in spring

40:46

you're much more likely to see very

40:49

scary cheap tickets during

40:51

those times the last thing to

40:53

that would note is that summer

40:56

flights are always going to be expensive that seasonality

40:58

and last minute summer flights are

41:01

going to be especially expensive

41:03

and so think a lot of the sticker

41:05

shock that many folks are seeing right now

41:07

is a little bit of that sort of confluence

41:10

of of of factors working against

41:13

people that not only are they looking for flights

41:15

during the peak season but they're doing

41:17

so at about the worst time to

41:19

book that last minute window when fares

41:22

tend to really skyrocket rather than

41:24

come down in price what's your approach

41:26

to searching for flights do you like expedia

41:29

kayak google flights what's

41:31

your process yeah they they

41:33

they sort of open secret industries that basically

41:36

all the same rather you search

41:38

on orbit search on expedia search on kayak

41:40

search on my personal favorite is google

41:42

flights i just find it the

41:44

user interface the user experience

41:46

to be significantly better

41:49

faster more powerful that's why i

41:51

like it but the actual results that

41:53

you're going to see are going to be

41:55

basically a st the same across

41:58

the board so the good

42:00

news is if you have preference

42:02

one or the other you really you know you swear

42:04

by skyscanner you love kayaks

42:07

go for it it's not it's not going to make

42:09

a huge difference in the actual fares

42:11

that you see but what would

42:13

say is that you might

42:15

want to differentiate between where

42:17

you search for your flights and where you

42:20

book your flights because the

42:22

price tends to stay the same out

42:24

to search for my flights on any one of those

42:26

kind of mad a search sites where i'm comparing

42:29

across airlines to make sure i'm getting

42:31

best price but them wenatchee got book

42:33

a typical like to book directly with

42:35

the airline enough for two reasons

42:38

one because there certain federal protections

42:40

that you have when you book directly with

42:42

the airline for instance there's something

42:44

called be twenty four hour rule there's

42:47

a federal law that says when you

42:49

book flight directly with an airline you

42:51

from the moment you hit purchase you

42:53

get a twenty four hour grace period

42:56

during which you can cancel your purchase

42:58

and get a full cast reef on

43:00

no questions asked that is not

43:02

the case under federal law when you books through

43:05

an online travel agency they might

43:07

have their own policies or or

43:09

or offerings on those many of

43:11

them do but they don't because they don't

43:13

have the weight of law behind them it's

43:15

not white as attractive

43:17

in my mind but second when you book

43:20

flight directly with an airline if

43:23

something goes wrong with your

43:25

itinerary have flight schedule gets

43:27

changed if there's thunderstorms

43:29

if you decide to cancel or this or

43:31

that's it's much easier

43:33

to hand or change your itinerary

43:35

if you can just deal directly with the airline

43:38

rather than having to deal with middle man

43:40

because not only you some middlemen

43:42

gonna be a mortar just and arduous

43:44

process but then you've got not only

43:46

the airlines policies but the middle mans

43:48

policies to deal with as well

43:50

and so this for simplicity

43:52

say it ends up being far far

43:54

preferable for anything needs to change

43:57

with your itinerary if you book directly

43:59

with the airlines

44:00

differentiating between where you search and

44:02

where you bucks first book with the airlines

44:04

new target you take advantage that twenty four

44:06

hour rule when you book of airline takes

44:09

and of its , to find better prizes

44:11

is kind of arbitrage right that's

44:13

right so right mean he i'll give you one example

44:16

there was example there a gentleman that i interviewed

44:18

for the trip who ahead

44:20

really wanted travel to japan

44:23

he was very very excited to

44:25

be able to visit and when

44:28

some cheap flights popped up for him he

44:30

was like really excited to book

44:32

them i believe they were initially trying

44:35

to find the exact price initially

44:37

five hundred seventy two dollars he

44:39

talked them but then within

44:41

twenty four hours a offs and better flight

44:43

popped up he was in d c from

44:45

richmond to tokyo for even

44:47

cheaper so he said well look richmond's

44:50

not that hard to get to save the save

44:52

one hundred dollars i'll go down to richmond get

44:54

cheaper flight and because this new

44:56

fair popped up within twenty four hours you

44:59

could cancel the old itinerant of the new

45:01

tickets from richmond tokyo while

45:03

the and lo and behold again within twenty

45:05

four hours of doing that another

45:07

cheaper flight popped up this time out

45:09

of d c to tokyo for

45:11

just five hundred eighty four bucks round trip

45:13

even better than the writ initial richmond

45:16

flights so he cancelled that one book

45:18

the new dc tokyo flight for five

45:20

eighty four and ended up being able take a great

45:23

trip are much more convenient trip

45:25

than what yes initially balked and

45:27

so the key to remember

45:29

is that twenty four hour rule

45:31

can help you in few different

45:33

ways can help you if you're not a hundred percent

45:35

sure you want take trip by you

45:37

see a really good fair so

45:40

if you look at what that does is essentially

45:42

just freeze the price for twenty four

45:44

hours and give you time to decide

45:47

do you want to keep this trip or would you rather

45:49

just cancel and get your money backs made

45:51

you need consult with a significant other

45:53

or travel partner but they're a meeting

45:55

rather than risking the fair disappearing

45:58

which which does happen this the

46:00

with really cheap fares you

46:02

can book lock it in for

46:04

twenty four hours and then cancel later if

46:06

you decide you don't want it but

46:08

then it also the twenty four hour ruled let's

46:10

you take advantage like with this german

46:12

donald and is is flights to tokyo

46:15

were if the price drops

46:17

after you book which happens more often

46:19

than you would think airlines do have what

46:21

called fair wars were there since

46:23

just ratcheting down the price to compete

46:25

with one another

46:27

if there's fair war going on you

46:29

can book your flight but then the price gets

46:31

cheaper worth it switches

46:34

from a connecting flight to a nonstop

46:36

flights you can cancel your old itinerary

46:38

book the new ones and take advantage

46:40

without having to pay anything extra and

46:42

impact be able to save the difference and

46:45

you you you also highly that you do this the southwest

46:47

airlines use as arbiters tools that typically

46:49

south was things like as budget airline roads but

46:52

oftentimes you can find

46:54

better deal the other airlines so you're saying

46:56

you're southwest airlines to get your initial

46:58

the stage as you walk in that kind of him basically

47:00

affordable price but then you

47:02

have keep looking for better deals with another

47:05

like

47:05

yeah like what okay ive got to ive got wedding

47:08

that i need to go to this september and

47:10

as soon as i got the did dates

47:12

for that wedding what i did

47:15

was went ahead on southwest i comment just

47:17

booked the best flight

47:19

i could find you with reasonable price to

47:22

destination for those wedding dates

47:24

and the reasonable book that on southwest

47:26

especially did so with southwest points that

47:28

had is that southwest flights

47:30

are free to cancel

47:33

if you book with points you just get all those points

47:35

reasonable with know fee are anything

47:38

if you book with cash they

47:40

just hold your funds as a a

47:42

no exact amount as travel credit

47:44

for future trip and so what

47:46

that essentially let's use

47:49

that a price ceiling so

47:51

innocence the i believe appeared like three hundred

47:53

fifty dollars for the flight

47:55

and what that said was said three

47:57

hundred fifty dollars have been maximum sort

47:59

of it went down on southwest

48:02

was just cancel and i'll read

48:04

buckets for the three hundred dollar

48:06

price if it does go down if it goes up

48:08

to forty dollars for fifty no

48:10

worries i already got my three hundred fifty dollar

48:12

tickets if it goes down on another

48:14

airline must save american offers

48:16

that that flight for the on those date

48:18

for two hundred fifty or great a book that

48:21

american flights or cancel my southwest

48:23

one for three fifty an end up being

48:25

able to ticket keeps a cheaper trip so

48:28

either way what it ends

48:30

up allowing you to do the southwest

48:32

arbitrage is essentially

48:34

create a heads you win tails

48:37

the airlines lose situation

48:39

and lord knows we need more of those because feels

48:41

like it's more often the other case you know the

48:43

that the airlines usually the one to try

48:45

to get one over on you and so finding instances

48:48

like this where you can say this

48:50

is the most down and updates and if

48:52

there any price drops between now and then

48:54

which they're often are considering how

48:56

volatile airfare is are

48:58

you can take advantage and end up saving

49:00

difference another advanced

49:02

have you highlight that can save you lot of

49:04

money especially for finer national and you mentioned

49:06

earlier with the you want go someplace

49:08

in europe like brussels but like direct

49:11

flights from brussels from your meal from

49:13

chicago or crazy but

49:15

if you find a place to london super cheap

49:17

he basically said he does building layover

49:20

a london and ensues your europe

49:22

it's pretty cheap fly anywhere in europe after that

49:24

point yeah that's exactly

49:26

right you know so called this the greek island strategy

49:29

the idea that if you were to search for flight

49:31

from new york to san serene he often

49:33

times they're closer like fifteen

49:35

hundred dollars bus if you're traveling in summer

49:38

but flights from new york app pens

49:40

are regularly four hundred and

49:42

fifty bucks and oftentimes nonstop

49:45

whereas there are no nonstops to santa

49:47

reni from the u s once you

49:49

get to athens really

49:51

easy hop budget flight hop a ferry

49:54

something us to get to the to

49:56

the islands for fifty bucks

49:58

seventy five bucks and cells not

50:00

only do end up saving of you

50:02

being able to pocket or a get a sixty

50:05

six per cent price for adoption

50:07

of those fifteen hundred dollars since remi

50:09

flights but you also again can

50:11

build in that free layover where you can take

50:13

as much time as you'd like in athens

50:16

before continuing on to san tyrrhenian

50:18

make it a free layover

50:20

free to in one trip you're

50:22

looking for it especially when you are traveling

50:25

whether it's somewhere remote or

50:27

somewhere even see where there's a the destination

50:30

there aren't many cheap flights popping up

50:32

getting you know talked about getting creative when

50:34

you might not have full flexibility keeping

50:36

an on cheap nearby airports

50:39

knowing that once you get to

50:41

europe once you get to southeast

50:43

asia it's really easy to

50:45

then continue on from

50:47

the hub where you arrive to your

50:49

final destination on another flight

50:52

and the reason why you need to take

50:54

a little creativity and search this yourself

50:57

is that be airlines themselves aren't

50:59

going to sell tickets on rival

51:01

airlines and so maybe the cheapest

51:04

flight across the ocean much

51:06

to say it's are not british airways but

51:09

then the cheapest flight from london

51:11

down to brussels is on

51:14

let's say it's on sale our military

51:16

you're going to amsterdam it's on t alam

51:19

you're not going to be able to buy that

51:21

as a single itinerary with british

51:23

airways and kill him because their rivals

51:26

they don't sell one and others tickets and

51:28

you're not going to achieve but been said by buying

51:31

one flight to london and

51:33

separate flight from london to

51:35

amsterdam you are able to build

51:37

yourself the cheapest itinerary

51:40

i and so that's why it's important especially

51:43

when you have the long haul flights over no sense

51:45

to see if you can do it cheaper by flying

51:47

into a different gateway and

51:49

then continuing on with different airlines

51:51

your final destination or another

51:54

tip to find cheap flights his mistakes

51:56

and guess you're gonna lose your kind of hinting

51:58

that you think that great doing

52:00

milan was mistake fair what

52:02

are those and like why did happen and

52:04

how do find

52:05

are you abl him is there is no question

52:07

that was a mistake fair mistakes or

52:10

interesting because they pop

52:12

up more often than people realize

52:14

and they they end up getting honored

52:16

much more often than people would think

52:19

you're obviously that hundred thirty dollar flight dot

52:21

honored but that's not only mistake fab cotton

52:23

in my life have gotten flight from

52:25

us to japan for one hundred and sixty nine

52:27

dollars round trip like

52:29

half of my coworkers says you points

52:32

got a business class round supplied

52:34

to southeast asia for five hundred and fifty

52:36

dollars round trip i ticket

52:38

and normally cost five thousand dollars

52:41

to bangkok bali or vietnam

52:44

in those types of deals pop up quite

52:46

regularly read really you know i

52:48

i eight ten twelve times year

52:51

usually like i'm looking at one in

52:53

just a couple of months ago there were mistake

52:55

fair to iceland whereas boston

52:57

to reykjavik for one hundred dollars

53:00

round trip d c to reykjavik for one hundred

53:02

and twenty nine denver to reykjavik

53:04

for one forty nine round trip those

53:06

types of deals do pop up regularly

53:09

they pop up for a number reasons of the

53:11

classic case was like with that mma

53:13

milan deal where maybe they just accidentally

53:16

forgot to zero at the end and sold it to me for

53:18

one hundred thirty dollars of and thirteen

53:20

hundred dollars there other reasons

53:22

why maybe the again

53:24

airfares set algorithmically nowadays

53:26

and so it's much more difficult to

53:28

often figure out what you know

53:30

it we will one st cyr produce

53:32

sort of anomaly in the

53:34

end result of some other fairs and

53:37

so they do pop up still

53:39

pretty regularly stick see

53:41

when a mistake their pops up his to

53:43

book it as quickly as possible again

53:45

taking advantage the twenty four hour rule

53:47

because you know soon as they're fixed they're

53:50

gone i remember looking at flight

53:52

ones from the us to in

53:54

the i believe us from dallas to india for two hundred

53:56

and twelve dollars round trip and

53:58

i was so exciting as messes and then

54:00

say who wants to come true by

54:02

the time we sort of thought

54:04

i recruited or friend to go travel we planned

54:06

itinerary never things we we took

54:08

two hours to plan where

54:10

we're going go in when before than

54:12

booking a flight and kid you not

54:15

thirty seconds before i went to book a

54:17

flight it disappeared the two hundred

54:19

twelve dollars mistake was sixteen

54:21

so by it's by dawdling by

54:23

taking their time we ended up missing to d

54:26

olds are so we miss in

54:28

that price is right now is crazy for some

54:30

or summer travel i guess your teachers if

54:32

you're really want to travel the place it's better

54:34

to hold off you want cheaper fly the

54:36

absolute look if you have the opportunity

54:38

to travel in the fall or be unrelated

54:41

labour day and be odds fares

54:43

are likely to be fifty percent lower

54:45

more i mean you just you see

54:47

tons of the it's i think people

54:49

have made the mistake of assuming that

54:51

see plates are gone forever when in reality

54:53

they're just gone through this summer see

54:55

we are still living in what call the golden

54:57

age of cheap flights it's just it's

54:59

a at this point as it

55:01

would be in any at this in june

55:03

of any summer it's virtually

55:05

impossible find cheap summer flights

55:08

the

55:08

i think i read somewhere that flights are up by

55:10

a third the summers are right yeah

55:13

they are significantly

55:15

rebounded from where was a year ago still

55:18

cheaper when you look up the compared to where it

55:20

was a decade ago but you know

55:22

small comfort for folks who are it's

55:24

kind of got used to those really cheap

55:26

and damage your of flights and then are getting

55:28

bit sticker shock this summer okay

55:30

so flights url expenses in the summer

55:32

in here but there especially high this

55:34

year because of pent up travel demand

55:37

during the pandemic the airlines with off

55:39

pilots and they didn't hire as many people

55:41

in our rewards travel but

55:43

even if those things get smooth out

55:45

we'll prices go down in fall like

55:47

the usually do like move will

55:49

they go back to normal fall levels that were

55:52

used to or things like inflation

55:55

or an oil prices can to

55:57

keep them from going back to prices that were

55:59

normally occurs and you they

56:01

will go back and you don't have to

56:03

take my word for it you can just look a look

56:05

at the prices for the fall right

56:07

now you know right i took a

56:09

look before chatting with you and

56:11

and do not just couple sample fares

56:14

for instance if you wanted to fly right

56:16

now from chicago to kan coon

56:18

july twenty first between like five eighty

56:20

three september twenty first or twenty

56:22

eight to thirty three austin

56:25

down to aruba july eighth two fifty

56:27

nine fifty one round trip nov

56:29

eight to fifteen two ninety three round trip

56:32

if your schedule allows you to travel

56:34

in the fall or the winters you really

56:36

can take advantage of lot of lot

56:38

points that are still available but you want try to put

56:40

those sooner rather than later few weights

56:43

again to last minute book those few wait

56:45

till september to book your flights

56:47

in october could october kind of difficult to get

56:49

something cheap whereas if you try to get those

56:51

on the books now and give your today

56:53

sell something look forward to it's going

56:56

to end up being better both for your

56:58

happiness and for your wallet this

57:00

guy gets to take away their if you're going to plan

57:02

trip

57:04

plan for the fall and even if prices

57:06

do go a little bit they're still good deal to be found

57:08

absolutely absolutely look if it's

57:11

if your schedule allows it

57:13

why to avoid frankly flying

57:15

in the middle of summer that's when fares

57:17

are going to be most expensive is cheap flights

57:19

are important to you traveling the middle of

57:21

summers generally not going to be

57:23

the best time to do that's but even

57:25

if you really wanna are travelling summer

57:27

and you really want still get good deal having

57:30

to plan well ahead of all

57:32

what i like states if want to travel peak season

57:35

always but opposite season

57:37

you know in the same way that swimsuits are going

57:39

be cheaper to buy in the winter same

57:41

with your summer slights purchasing

57:43

most in winter so what that means is right now

57:46

in the summer the cheapest thing to buy

57:48

on in in stores are those winter coats

57:51

the cheapest slight to buy right now are

57:53

those winter holiday flights of think

57:55

about booking your christmas new years flights

57:57

now while there can be much cheaper

57:59

than if wait for five months and

58:01

trying to book them at the same time is everybody

58:03

else and seeing rarely expensive fairs

58:05

at that point well scotts has been great

58:07

conversation where can people go learn more about book

58:10

your work absolutely so the book

58:12

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58:14

some the large conglomerate

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