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winter. A place
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so cold that everything
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slows down. Microbes, metabolic
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processes, the human body. But
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trench deep in the abyss of
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the ocean or some far-flung planet
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or even Antarctica. We
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are staying very close to home.
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We are walking into the kitchen and
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opening the refrigerator. It
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is astonishing, the miracle of
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having domesticated cold. When
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you think about it, humans domesticating fire, people
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say that's sort of what made us human. We
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domesticated cold incredibly recently.
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This is Nicki Twilly. She's one of my
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favorite thinkers and writers of the world. about
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the strangeness of our modern world. She's
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the co-host of the Gastropod podcast,
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and she's the author of a new
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book called Frostbite, how refrigeration
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changed our food, our planet, and ourselves.
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And man, for a topic that at
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first might not seem super sexy, boy,
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is it a wild ride. Fridge
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wasn't standard in American households until
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the 30s and 40s, ice making
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ability later still. And
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so this domestication of cold is
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very recent, and I think
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equally transformative and important to
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take a look at. Cold
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is a big business these days, and
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refrigeration has come a very long
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way since the icebox. It
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has transformed into something we call the
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cold chain. I'm
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Dylan Therese, and this is Atlas Obscura, a
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celebration of the world's strange,
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incredible, and wondrous places. And
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today, Nikki is our guide
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through the cold chain, through
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this tightly temperature controlled ecosystem,
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this geography of warehouses and trucks
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and refrigerators that we use to
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keep our food fresh all year
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long. We are gonna go on
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a tour of its wonders,
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of the sprawling underground cheese
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bunkers, and the towers of
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frozen orange juice. Well,
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you may not think about it when you're
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making dinner, it underpins every single meal you
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eat, and at this
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point, our entire society.
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So, Nikki got interested in
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the cold chain 15 years ago.
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She was a food writer, and the big trend was
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farm to table. But the
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word that she wanted to know more about that
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sentence was to, there's
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the farm, there's the table, what
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happens in the to. And
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so to figure that out, she
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ended up having to don a parka
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and over the years trek all over
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the world and deep into this geography
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of an artificial cryosphere, the cold
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chain spread well across the world.
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But to understand where all of this came
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from, she also wanted to go back
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to the very beginning. So
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she went to the Thompson Ice House in Bristol,
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Maine, one of the very last places you
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can still harvest a big block of ice
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straight from nature, from
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the lake itself. So I
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wanted to go to Maine to see really
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one of the last remnants of
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something that used to be common
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all over the northern part
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of the US. And at
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the time when the ice harvesting was common,
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North America's cold winters and lots
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of freshwater ponds and rivers, that
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was seen as the equivalent of Saudi
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oil. It was exported around the world
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and the basis of a global economy.
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And then it vanished once we got
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mechanical refrigeration, almost without trace.
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And in Maine is one of the
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last places in America where you can
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harvest ice the way it would have been
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done in the 1800s. To
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harvest ice, you need a couple of
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things. First, you need a frozen pond,
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which Maine has plenty of. Then
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you need these big monster tools,
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like a giant long tooth saw
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with a wooden handle on the
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end. The ice harvesters first
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draw a grid on top of the pond and
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then you use the saws to cut the lines.
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Finally, there is this chisel-like bar you
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use to kind of snap the ice
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blocks out of the grid until
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you float them over the water using
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a pole with a hook on it
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and up to a conveyor belt where
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it is drawn up and then slides
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down into the insulated ice. orange
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juice. The scientists couldn't get it quite
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right. The powdering part kept going wrong.
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But the freezing concentrating part
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first worked. And
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before you know it, Americans were
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buying freezers, which were not common before,
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very uncommon, just so that
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they could have these cans of frozen
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concentrate orange juice in the morning, dump
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the can into the jug and add
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water. I mean, that was what then
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enabled the TV dinner boom, the fishstick
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boom, all of that, because people now
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had freezers. So these
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spaces are filled with tanks for the
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frozen orange juice. They're two stories high.
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And in these tanks,
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they're kind of like
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oversized ice cream makers. They have a paddle
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that just sort of swishes around. The
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orange juice has been de-oiled,
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de-aerated. And what
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that means is it tastes of
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sugar and nothing else. All
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the things that make orange juice
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taste of oranges are in
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the oil and the volatiles that are stripped off
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when you de-aerate it. So they
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have to be added back. And
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there's this one room at this
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world's largest juice tank
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facility. It's called the Flavor
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Plus room. And that's
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the only place in the entire facility
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where you will smell orange. What
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is amazing about this is you
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add back in the flavors you took out,
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but it's not an orange you would ever
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find in nature because it is now
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being tweaked to exactly what that
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brand of orange juice tastes like, which
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is how Minute Maid can taste exactly
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the same every time you have it
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all year round, or Tropicana can do
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the same. They're brands. They're brands like
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Pepsi or Coca-Cola. You can be loyal
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to one and not the other. I
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think all of us hold these kind of, we
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hold these rough mental models of things in our
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head. I, for example, was
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like, yeah, sure, frozen from concentrate.
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potential solutions out there,
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although there's no money spent on it because
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people haven't seen it as a problem really
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until now. Refrigeration is beautiful
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because it does everything and
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we might have to get used to a
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world where there isn't just a once-ice-fits-all solution.
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I think that's a better world
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because at the moment we just stuff things in the
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cold and forget about them and we don't think about
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them. Well it would be
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great to think about fruit and vegetables as
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living things. We could know a
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little bit more about our food and
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how far it's traveled and maybe
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waste less that way. I don't know. I
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think breaking down this monolith
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would be a good thing. Whether
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it's going to happen in a world where we
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like a simple solution, I don't know. I
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hope I get to like meet you
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at the coatings banquet where we're eating
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all the things everything is set out
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on the table. It hasn't been refrigerated.
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You know, I mean these things all
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feel ridiculous like crazy science fiction and
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you're even it feels sort of suspicious
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like coatings. Like, ugh, what? Until you're
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there and suddenly it's like
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refrigeration. It just becomes something that
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recedes into the background of your
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life. I'm so down for
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the coatings banquet. Nicky
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Twilly is the co-host of the
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Gastropod podcast and author
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of a new book Frostbite. How
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refrigeration changed our food, our planet
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and ourselves. I cannot
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recommend this book highly enough. It is
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a page-turner. It is
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fascinating and it changes
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the way you think about every single
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thing you eat. Go get it
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now. Our
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podcast is a co-production of Atlas
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Obscura and Stitcher Studios. This
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episode was produced by Alexa
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Lin. The production team includes
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Doug Baldinger, Camille Stanley,
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Chris Naka, Johanna Mayer,
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Baudelaire, Gabby Gladney, Manolo
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Morales, Our technical
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director is... Casey Holford. This episode was
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sound designed and mixed by... Luce Fleming.
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And our theme in end credit music is
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by Sam Tindall. I'm Dylan Thuris, wishing
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